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Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - April 28, 2018

Joe sits down with Eddie Bravo & Brendan Schaub to watch the fights on April 28, 2018.

Brendan SchaubguestEddie BravoguestJoe Roganhost
Apr 29, 20183h 14mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:001:27

    Going live: fight companion setup, Reebok gear, and weed/USADA rules

    1. BS

      Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.

    2. EB

      $15? (burps)

    3. JR

      No. Three, two... Boom! And we're live, ladies and gentlemen. Live! Mauro Ranallo and Big John McCarthy.

    4. BS

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      Uh, Eddie Bravo rocking the old school Helio Gracie shirt. I love that shirt.

    6. BS

      Hey, respect, man. Respect.

    7. EB

      Respect. Deep respect. Brendan motherfucking schump. Oh, and I got a "Sugar" Sean O'Malley shirt. I might strip down later and put this motherfucker on. Is that the best shirt Reebok's ever made?

    8. JR

      It might be. Might be one of the dopest shirts in history-

    9. EB

      It's pretty great. It's pretty great.

    10. JR

      ...of Reebok.

    11. EB

      Reebok's getting better, man. I'll give it to them.

    12. JR

      I'm wearing a pair of Reeboks right... Oh, nope.

    13. EB

      No.

    14. JR

      I thought I was. I'm not.

    15. EB

      I thought I was for a second, too. I did tell you. (laughs)

    16. BS

      (laughs)

    17. JR

      Well, I had them on earlier today.

    18. BS

      (laughs)

    19. JR

      I had a p- Reebok sent me a bunch of sneakers. But that's a dope shirt right there.

    20. EB

      Yeah. You know me, I was super critical on them for a while. They're getting way better, man.

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. EB

      Way better.

    23. JR

      This is good.

    24. EB

      That, that... They... When they posted that I, I got my boy who works at Reebok, I sent him a screenshot and went, "Goddamn, you guys hit this one out of the park."

    25. JR

      They're embracing it. They're embracing the fact that he's a stoner, like heavy duty.

    26. EB

      Yeah, it's just a fun shirt, but it's so tight.

    27. BS

      He talks about weed?

    28. JR

      Oh, gang, like, go to his Instagram. Dude's getting high all day.

    29. BS

      Didn't you see him on the last uh-

    30. EB

      How does he fight?

  2. 1:274:11

    Dillon Danis’ MMA debut: elite jiu-jitsu, shaky striking, and the guard-pull finish

    1. JR

      So, Dillon Danis. This is not his MMA debut, is it?

    2. EB

      Yeah, it is.

    3. BS

      Yeah, it is. Oh-

    4. JR

      It is.

    5. BS

      It is.

    6. JR

      Against Kyle Walker. And Eddie, tell us about Dillon's jujitsu. He's pretty high level.

    7. EB

      Yeah, he's one of the best around, for sure. He had a, an amazing match with Gordon Ryan at 2017 Abu Dhabi. I mean, the fight was really close. It could've went either way, and they gave it, the judge's decision gave it to Gordon. And Gordon went on, went on to win his division. So, he's, he's top of the food chain. And, you know, he was with Marcelo Garcia. He got his black belt from Marcelo Garcia.

    8. JR

      Yeah, Marcelo kicked him out for shit talking, right? Isn't that the deal?

    9. EB

      For, you know... He, he started hanging out with Conor McGregor and, and Marcelo Garcia's the opposite of that, that kind of shit talking, you know?

    10. JR

      Right, like super humble.

    11. EB

      Incredibly humble.

    12. JR

      Yeah. Yeah, you would think though that Marcelo and him would work it out though, like give the guy-

    13. EB

      Kinda have a chat.

    14. JR

      ... a black belt. And the guy's a high level black belt. Like obviously if you ever met-

    15. EB

      It was just too much drama. It was a lotta drama.

    16. JR

      But if you ever met Dillon in real life, he's a super nice guy.

    17. EB

      He's a great guy.

    18. JR

      He's just trying to make some money.

    19. EB

      He, uh-

    20. JR

      He's smart. Let's see.

    21. BS

      He said he talked shit to Jon Jones on...

    22. JR

      Here we go. Oh, that's stupid.

    23. BS

      I know.

    24. JR

      All these guys talking shit that Jon Jones is eventually going to have to meet him and they will get slapped.

    25. BS

      Well, but then, but then I saw Dillon when the Conor and Floyd fight. Me and him sat next to each other. He was the nicest guy in the world, man.

    26. JR

      Look at his stance.

    27. BS

      I'm a fan.

    28. JR

      He's very Conor McGregor-esque, with that stance.

    29. BS

      Same coachings, right? Same coaching, same camp.

    30. JR

      Oh, dude, he-

  3. 4:1110:11

    Post-fight: leg-lock cringe factor, tapping late, and Danis’ awkward mic moment

    1. EB

      Per- per- perfect opponent. I don't have a problem giving him a warm up fight like this. For his first one-

    2. JR

      No.

    3. EB

      ... first MMA fight, your Bellator...

    4. JR

      He's still down.

    5. EB

      It could be worse. Could be Ian Pico, your first fight. You know what I'm saying?

    6. JR

      There's those things, man. When I see a dude get his knee ripped apart like that, like that dude's fucked. Look at him, he's in pain.

    7. EB

      You could get your shoulder ripped apart in a Kimura-

    8. JR

      Yep.

    9. EB

      ... the exact same way, so...

    10. JR

      Oh, I know. But it's, it's weird, right? I mean, I'm not saying it makes sense-

    11. EB

      You just gotta know when to tap.

    12. JR

      Yeah.

    13. EB

      That's it.

    14. BS

      Yeah. I, I think the problem is guys aren't too familiar with what goes on with the leg locks, so by the time they're tapping, it's too late.

    15. JR

      Yeah, but what I'm saying is, for whatever reason, for me, when I watch it, I cringe more with leg locks.

    16. BS

      Agree.

    17. EB

      I agree.

    18. JR

      Like if I see a guy get his arm broken, it doesn't bother me. Like I see a guy get his knee ripped apart-

    19. BS

      Is it because we're not used to seeing it?

    20. JR

      I don't know, man. Maybe it's 'cause I know the tap... Like you only have so much time to tap. Like your shit's gonna explode. Maybe it's just... I don't know. I don't know.

    21. BS

      But when a guy's really good at it, you know, if you fuck up an ankle, he's out for a grip.

    22. JR

      Yeah. Yep, yep. Oh, damn, that's a nasty one too.

    23. EB

      Oh, he had a toe hold. Oh.

    24. JR

      Nasty toe hold.

    25. EB

      I, I... I had a bad angle. It was a toe hold. I thought it was a heel hook initially.

    26. JR

      Yeah, I thought so too.

    27. BS

      But they, they didn't really show it though. You couldn't see his back was T-rated?

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. BS

      At least you couldn't see it.

    30. JR

      Well, you know what, man? I mean, I like the fact that he's in there, but man, I feel like w- just watching him move with his stand up, I'd like to see him...

  4. 10:1118:41

    Bellator card preview and ‘testing’ jokes: PED culture from Pride to modern commissions

    1. JR

      Um, there's some good fights on this card. Okay, uh, Rafael Lovato versus Gerald Harris, I like that fight.

    2. BS

      Great fight.

    3. JR

      That's a fight, that's an interesting fight, man.

    4. BS

      Fe- Fedor-

    5. JR

      Rory Nelson versus Mirko Cro Cop, they've been giving him the testing, son.

    6. BS

      (laughs)

    7. JR

      They've been giving him the testing, apparently.

    8. BS

      (laughs)

    9. JR

      Do you, but do you believe they're testing? When I hear Belator's testing, I always like wink wink.

    10. BS

      That's like the Olympia.

    11. JR

      Yeah, Mr. Olympia. (laughs)

    12. BS

      We tested Bromo. Dude.

    13. JR

      Oh, really? What did he do?

    14. BS

      Come on.

    15. JR

      Do you give him like a written test?

    16. BS

      Yeah, come on.

    17. JR

      (laughs)

    18. BS

      What did you take today?

    19. JR

      Yeah, let's get real.

    20. BS

      Nothing. I didn't take nothing.

    21. JR

      (laughs)

    22. BS

      (laughs) A written test. Just a written test.

    23. JR

      Dudes are fucking eating hay and snorting they're on so much equipoise. (laughs)

    24. BS

      Dude. That's like, uh, Canelo. He came back, he did that, uh...

    25. JR

      Oh.

    26. BS

      ... hair follicle sample.

    27. JR

      Hair test, yeah.

    28. BS

      But people are saying bullshit, though.

    29. JR

      Why?

    30. BS

      Uh, they, I guess, the, the, the way it was done. Like, how do we know it's his hair? It's coming from his camp exclusively.

  5. 18:4125:30

    Scientology network detour and Tom Cruise’s extreme stunts (and injuries)

    1. JR

      I think that's true. What? There's a Scientology network?

    2. Mm-hmm.

    3. What? Curious.

    4. Yeah, they just started it recently.

    5. Get the fuck outta here.

    6. Yeah.

    7. And they're ad- they're advertising it on Paramount?

    8. Pssh.

    9. BS

      Holy shit.

    10. JR

      Curious?

    11. BS

      Oh, boy.

    12. JR

      Does it ev-

    13. S- space.

    14. Despa- Despot is Paramount.

    15. I guess.

    16. BS

      Well, they might be pay- they got b-

    17. JR

      Get that cash.

    18. BS

      That's Tom Cruise money, son.

    19. JR

      Yeah. I guess so.

    20. BS

      You ever drive by a Scientology building? I drove by last night-

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. BS

      ... like, "Oh."

    23. JR

      I got to test once.

    24. BS

      I want in, in there.

    25. JR

      I got to test. I, I went to one of those things-

    26. BS

      Know you did.

    27. JR

      ... they held the cans. Yeah. I was, uh, filming a TV show for CBS and we were outside in San Diego and, uh, while we had some down time they had this thing set up, like a stress test and you go and you hold onto these cans and they ask you questions. (laughs)

    28. BS

      (laughs)

    29. I think, I wanna say Brian did stand-up in there.

    30. JR

      Did he?

  6. 25:3028:54

    Neiman Gracie fight + Askren/UFC hypotheticals: co-promotion barriers and dream matchups

    1. JR

      No. I don't think anybody beat, like, two minutes and 20 seconds or some shit. (sniffs) Here we go. Neiman Gracie ready to choke a motherfucker.

    2. BS

      Last time I saw him fight was on that, uh, uh, Newark, uh, Met Square Garden card. I think it's Renzo's nephew, isn't it?

    3. JR

      Yeah, correct. Yeah.

    4. BS

      He looks hyper-aggressive. He looks like a henzo nephew.

    5. JR

      (sniffs) Big kid, man. And so the other guy is Javio Torre- Javier Torres, is that his name? Does it say, Jamie?

    6. BS

      Yeah.

    7. Yeah, yeah. I think that's right.

    8. Did you see Roy MacDonald asking Ben Askren to sign with Bellator?

    9. JR

      Yeah. And Ben Askren wants to do it, too. (coughs) Um, uh, Ben Askren still owes fights with ONE FC though, so they would have to do some sort of a co-promotion.

    10. BS

      He's under contract with them?

    11. JR

      Yeah, he owes two fights. He owes two fights with ONE FC.

    12. BS

      Hey, ONE FC, I know you're listening. Do us all a solid. Do all the hardcores a solid. Let him out, man, so he can go to UFC.

    13. JR

      Mm-mm, never gonna let him out. What they would do is they would co-promote. (clears throat) And it's possible, you know-

    14. BS

      Not if he wants to fight in the UFC.

    15. JR

      It's possible.

    16. BS

      Oh, hell-

    17. JR

      It's possible.

    18. BS

      ... the UFC co-promote with ONE FC?

    19. JR

      I mean, you would have to ... It would have to be favorable conditions with the UFC, where, like, they just, you know, it, it-

    20. BS

      They can stream it?

    21. JR

      ... they make some sort of a deal.

    22. BS

      With O- ONE FC can stream it or some shit?

    23. JR

      Yeah. Something. There would have to be something.

    24. BS

      God.

    25. JR

      Or they give them a piece of the revenue, but it would have to be a very small piece.

    26. BS

      The odds are already against him to sign with the UFC.

    27. JR

      Right.

    28. BS

      And then you go, "All right, now you gotta make this deal with ONE FC," and Dana's gonna be like, "Kick Ross, man. I tried."

    29. JR

      Well, what he should do is he should get out of that contract. That's what he should do.

    30. BS

      And just smoke two dudes real fast?

  7. 28:5436:05

    Leg locks in MMA: ‘Hail Mary heel hooks,’ safety, and how long it takes to defend them

    1. JR

      Isn't it crazy how leg locks are now making their way much more prominently in the U- in MMA now? You're seeing much more leg lock action.

    2. BS

      Unless you're focused on it, I feel like, okay, you're fighting Dillon Danis. Only have six weeks to get ready for that? You're not gonna learn the leg lock game.

    3. JR

      He's fucked. He's fucked.

    4. BS

      He's fucked.

    5. Is that fair to you? There's no way, right?

    6. JR

      No, he's fucked.

    7. BS

      No.

    8. JR

      He just can't get out of that one.

    9. BS

      If you're going against a high-level leg locker, it's gonna take you four years to catch him.

    10. Right? So these, these guys, they're so far behind, they're like, "Fuck Dillon Danis."

    11. Here it is.

    12. "Let's work on leg locks. It's too late."

    13. Here it is. Here it is, son. (clears throat) Oh.

    14. He's doing the right thing.

    15. JR

      Yeah, but his both legs are tied up, man. He's so stuck. That's such a gross feeling.

    16. BS

      You could do it in two years. It doesn't have to be four years.

    17. Average, but ... Two years if you're the ... if, if you're the good coach.

    18. If you're gonna try to battle someone at, like, you know, uh, Renzo Gracie guy leg lock level-

    19. Yeah.

    20. ... (sighs) it's gonna take you at least two years to, to stalemate, at least.

    21. And also, you gotta focus on that, right?

    22. And you've got to be training every goddamn ... Yeah, you gotta focus on-

    23. Most guys, most guys aren't doing that.

    24. Yeah, and that's the thing with MMA is, uh, generally in MMA l- leg locks were thought of as, as a technique you don't really ever need to even focus on, 'cause it just ... In MMA there were ... Too many people have gotten knocked out going for leg locks, so the general consensus is don't really worry about leg locks in MMA, they're too dangerous anyways. But-... they're, um, they're, uh, you can get knocked out. It is dangerous in MMA, but they still work. You just gotta know which leg lock positions are the safest. And-

    25. JR

      This is pretty sick.

    26. BS

      ... you know, if nothing else is working out, if, if you can't take the guy down, he's beating your ass and it's the third round, you lost the first two rounds, it's the last round, you know, going for a heel hook, it might be a great idea. And if you practice them-

    27. JR

      It's a good option.

    28. BS

      ... and if you're good at them-

    29. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    30. BS

      ... you have hope in that last round. You know what I mean?

  8. 36:0542:46

    Arm triangle mechanics + studio upgrades: mats, traction, and demonstrating techniques on camera

    1. BS

      He's got the clamp.

    2. Oh, you're screwed, man.

    3. JR

      Yeah, that's a tight one, baby.

    4. BS

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      You see how he, like, manipulates those legs? That guy's done that to a lot of fucking people.

    6. BS

      At this point-

    7. Holy shit.

    8. ... he could've, he could've, he could've defended right here if he would've just brought his legs up and hooked his own left leg.

    9. And turn away, yeah?

    10. He could've just went like this, like this.

    11. And turn away, yeah, yeah.

    12. JR

      Yeah, yeah.

    13. BS

      Like this.

    14. JR

      Now when, when guys do that though, you go to the impaler, right?

    15. BS

      You have to go to the back. Yeah, it, but you gotta do that before he grabs-

    16. JR

      But do you, but when a guy grabs his legs, do you still go to the impaler?I've seen you. I've seen you separate-

    17. BS

      At that point in-

    18. JR

      ... guys' legs.

    19. BS

      ... I- I- I rarely do an arm triangle not mounted.

    20. EB

      Hmm.

    21. JR

      Interesting.

    22. BS

      Rarely. I stay in the mount.

    23. JR

      Why do you stay in the mount and-

    24. BS

      So the-

    25. JR

      ... not go side to side?

    26. BS

      ... because the, because the one defense I was just telling you-

    27. JR

      Oh, right, right.

    28. BS

      ... hook, hooking your own leg?

    29. JR

      You can't do it from the mount.

    30. BS

      That stops all arm triangles. There's... You're forced to go-

  9. 42:4651:09

    Bellator tournament talk: Bader as a dark horse, plus Jon Jones/DC gap discussion

    1. BS

      Dude, am I crazy to think B-Bader's the dark horse to win the heavyweight tournament?

    2. JR

      Oh, he could win it. B-Bader's still very, very good. And n-not that King Mo's not. King Mo can fucking punch, and he, at one point in time at least, was a world-class wrestler. King Mo was a beast of a wrestler.

    3. BS

      Oh, he still is.

    4. JR

      Phenomenal athlete.

    5. BS

      One of the best I've ever seen.

    6. JR

      But he's, he's had some injuries, man. And he had really, really bad staph.

    7. BS

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      I think the staph got him at least twice. I wanna s- I know he got it once, but I wanna say he got it twice real bad. He had r-real bad staph. Like, come on, man. Bader's probably at the top of his game right now.

    9. BS

      Yeah, Bader's in his prime.

    10. JR

      When he beat Phil, I was like-

    11. BS

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      ... "Holy shit, he beat Phil Davis." And he took him down a bunch of times.

    13. BS

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      Like, look, he's at the top-

    15. BS

      They're close fights.

    16. JR

      ... of his game. He's at the top of his game.

    17. BS

      Yeah, you look at the heavyweight division-

    18. JR

      Yeah.

    19. BS

      ... in that tournament, Bader's my dark horse, man.

    20. JR

      Bader is a, he is a legit world-class fighter that is actually probably at his best right now. I would say that Ryan Bader, right now, is in his prime. Here's the thing, though.

    21. BS

      (clears throat)

    22. JR

      Even in his prime, he's not at the level of Jon. And that was over in the UFC.

    23. BS

      Oh, no.

    24. JR

      In the UFC.

    25. BS

      But who is, though? Who is?

    26. JR

      Well-

    27. BS

      Maybe Daniel?

    28. JR

      ... Daniel.

    29. BS

      Gustafsson?

    30. JR

      Daniel-

  10. 51:091:04:49

    MMA, stand-up comedy, and Hollywood: rising comics, sitcom grind, and ‘jizz in the soup’ executives

    1. BS

      Do you, do you ever have fake arguments? You ever have fake arguments in your head?

    2. JR

      With myself?

    3. BS

      Yeah.

    4. JR

      Oh, I used to do that all the time. I used to pretend someone would say this back to me, I was like, "Well I will. Like fuck you, I'm gonna say this back to you."

    5. BS

      (laughs)

    6. JR

      I would write, and then sometimes it would be with a dude and then I would run into him to talk to him, thinking we're gonna have this big argument-

    7. BS

      And he's awesome.

    8. JR

      ... and he's like, "Hey man, I'm sorry."

    9. BS

      I know.

    10. JR

      "We, we, I fucked up. I was drunk."

    11. BS

      I know.

    12. JR

      "Sorry, dude. Give me a hug."

    13. BS

      You had all this shit, you had all this shit prepared. (laughs)

    14. JR

      And then I abandoned it immediately. I think there's so much of how people interact with each other c- could be just way different with just a little shift in how we talk to each other and how we think about each other.

    15. BS

      I did that last night. I was doing a set at the Laugh Factory in, uh, we were talking about off here, Santino and Theo Von, I was going, you know, in between them. I had this whole dialogue in my head 'cause they're like, "Oh, we're gonna stay and watch your set." I go, "That'd be cool." And as soon as I got done, I was like, "Oh, I bet fucking Santino thought that sucked," and this and this.

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. BS

      I'm like literally go, and he'd come to the back, he was the nicest guy ever.

    18. JR

      Santino's a very nice guy. He's fucking funny, man.

    19. BS

      He destroyed last night.

    20. JR

      He's a funny dude.

    21. BS

      Creative.

    22. JR

      There's like young guys that are coming up that I go, "Oh, look at you."

    23. BS

      Him, him, him and Theo-

    24. JR

      "Look at you, fella."

    25. BS

      ... last night back, back to back I was like, "You motherfuckers are monsters."

    26. JR

      Have you seen his bit he does about The Rock? You gotta ask him to do it.

    27. BS

      Santino?

    28. JR

      Yes. 'Cause he doesn't, he's, it's, he has so much material that he stopped doing it, I guess. He'll do it, but if you bring it up, he'll do it.

    29. BS

      I would love that.

    30. JR

      I asked him to do it one night and he did it for us in the, the OR. Dude. He-

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