Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - April 28, 2018

1. 0:00 – 1:27

   Kickoff banter: shirts, Reebok, and cannabis testing in MMA

   1. BSBrendan Schaub0:00

      Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.

   2. EBEddie Bravo0:01

      $15? (burps)

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      No. Three, two... Boom! And we're live, ladies and gentlemen. Live! Mauro Ranallo and Big John McCarthy.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub0:13

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      Uh, Eddie Bravo rocking the old school Helio Gracie shirt. I love that shirt.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub0:18

      Hey, respect, man. Respect.

   7. EBEddie Bravo0:19

      Respect. Deep respect. Brendan motherfucking schump. Oh, and I got a "Sugar" Sean O'Malley shirt. I might strip down later and put this motherfucker on. Is that the best shirt Reebok's ever made?

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:28

      It might be. Might be one of the dopest shirts in history-

   9. EBEddie Bravo0:29

      It's pretty great. It's pretty great.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       ...of Reebok.

   11. EBEddie Bravo0:31

       Reebok's getting better, man. I'll give it to them.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       I'm wearing a pair of Reeboks right... Oh, nope.

   13. EBEddie Bravo0:35

       No.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       I thought I was. I'm not.

   15. EBEddie Bravo0:38

       I thought I was for a second, too. I did tell you. (laughs)

   16. BSBrendan Schaub0:39

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Well, I had them on earlier today.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub0:41

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       I had a p- Reebok sent me a bunch of sneakers. But that's a dope shirt right there.

   20. EBEddie Bravo0:44

       Yeah. You know me, I was super critical on them for a while. They're getting way better, man.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       Yeah.

   22. EBEddie Bravo0:48

       Way better.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       This is good.

   24. EBEddie Bravo0:49

       That, that... They... When they posted that I, I got my boy who works at Reebok, I sent him a screenshot and went, "Goddamn, you guys hit this one out of the park."

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       They're embracing it. They're embracing the fact that he's a stoner, like heavy duty.

   26. EBEddie Bravo1:00

       Yeah, it's just a fun shirt, but it's so tight.

   27. BSBrendan Schaub1:02

       He talks about weed?

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       Oh, gang, like, go to his Instagram. Dude's getting high all day.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub1:06

       Didn't you see him on the last uh-

   30. EBEddie Bravo1:07

       How does he fight?
2. 1:27 – 2:38

   Dillon Danis’ MMA debut: elite jiu-jitsu meets shaky striking

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:27

      So, Dillon Danis. This is not his MMA debut, is it?

   2. EBEddie Bravo1:30

      Yeah, it is.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub1:31

      Yeah, it is. Oh-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:32

      It is.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub1:32

      It is.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:32

      Against Kyle Walker. And Eddie, tell us about Dillon's jujitsu. He's pretty high level.

   7. EBEddie Bravo1:37

      Yeah, he's one of the best around, for sure. He had a, an amazing match with Gordon Ryan at 2017 Abu Dhabi. I mean, the fight was really close. It could've went either way, and they gave it, the judge's decision gave it to Gordon. And Gordon went on, went on to win his division. So, he's, he's top of the food chain. And, you know, he was with Marcelo Garcia. He got his black belt from Marcelo Garcia.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:58

      Yeah, Marcelo kicked him out for shit talking, right? Isn't that the deal?

   9. EBEddie Bravo2:01

      For, you know... He, he started hanging out with Conor McGregor and, and Marcelo Garcia's the opposite of that, that kind of shit talking, you know?

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:07

       Right, like super humble.

   11. EBEddie Bravo2:08

       Incredibly humble.

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:09

       Yeah. Yeah, you would think though that Marcelo and him would work it out though, like give the guy-

   13. EBEddie Bravo2:13

       Kinda have a chat.

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:14

       ... a black belt. And the guy's a high level black belt. Like obviously if you ever met-

   15. EBEddie Bravo2:17

       It was just too much drama. It was a lotta drama.

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:18

       But if you ever met Dillon in real life, he's a super nice guy.

   17. EBEddie Bravo2:21

       He's a great guy.

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:21

       He's just trying to make some money.

   19. EBEddie Bravo2:23

       He, uh-

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:24

       He's smart. Let's see.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub2:24

       He said he talked shit to Jon Jones on...

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:26

       Here we go. Oh, that's stupid.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub2:28

       I know.

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:28

       All these guys talking shit that Jon Jones is eventually going to have to meet him and they will get slapped.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub2:32

       Well, but then, but then I saw Dillon when the Conor and Floyd fight. Me and him sat next to each other. He was the nicest guy in the world, man.

3. 2:38 – 8:56

   Fight reaction: guard pull into leg lock finish, plus ‘tap timing’ debate

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:38

      Look at his stance.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub2:39

      I'm a fan.

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:39

      He's very Conor McGregor-esque, with that stance.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub2:41

      Same coachings, right? Same coaching, same camp.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:43

      Oh, dude, he-

   6. BSBrendan Schaub2:44

      Oh, shit!

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:45

      ... he's got real problems with his striking. (laughs) That dude just stepped in and cleaned him with that left.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub2:49

      Yep. Oh! Oh, no. Oh, shit.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:50

      Whoa, dude, he's got some problems.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub2:51

       Ooh.

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:51

       His standup is super rudimentary.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub2:53

       I wonder how his take downs are.

   13. JRJoe Rogan2:55

       They better be good.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub2:56

       Well, it's kind of... He's kind of like the Mackenzie Dern, right, of Bellator.

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:59

       Well, he's obviously closing the distance too, which is a problem because it's obvious you're coming in. The guy could just wait on you.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub3:05

       Yeah, his distance control is awful.

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:06

       But several times he's been clipped by that left hand.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub3:08

       Oh, shit.

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:09

       Oh, dude, if this guy can keep this fight stand... Okay, yeah, his kicks are stiff.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub3:15

       Yeesh.

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:15

       Yeah. His... But his jujitsu is the shit if he gets this fight to the ground.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub3:19

       He's kind of like an alley cat version of Conor.

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:22

       Like super alley cat.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub3:23

       I don't mind.

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:24

       Like real rough.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub3:24

       He pulls back with his chin straight up in the air too.

   27. EBEddie Bravo3:27

       He needs to get a clinch.

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:28

       Yeah, for sure.

   29. EBEddie Bravo3:29

       He needs to get that underhook.

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:29

       For sure.
4. 8:56 – 10:29

   Post-fight mic work and matchmaking: ‘free seminar’ + Bellator building stars

   1. NANarrator8:56

      You're good. And I tell you what, if you get your hell up, you fight hard, you come back, you were not gonna back down from. Talk about that leg lock. You got him in a toe hold and how did you set it up? I mean, at the end of the day, I'm a samurai and I came here to die. So if you have what (censored) to kill me. And the leg lock, that's just jujitsu. I give you guys a free seminar how to defeat MMA with jujitsu.

   2. JRJoe Rogan9:18

      Okay, back to the drawing board. (laughs)

   3. BSBrendan Schaub9:20

      (laughs)

   4. (laughs)

   5. (laughs) Free seminar.

   6. JRJoe Rogan9:21

      That's shit talking.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub9:22

      He had that one prepared.

   8. Oh, yeah.

   9. (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan9:23

       That shit talking needs a little work. Dillon, come at-

   11. BSBrendan Schaub9:25

       Remember the seminar one? Don't forget the seminar one.

   12. JRJoe Rogan9:27

       (laughs)

   13. BSBrendan Schaub9:27

       I'm still a samurai. You're willing to die in there. 'Cause we never heard that before.

   14. JRJoe Rogan9:30

       Yeah. Yeah, never heard that before. Come find me, bro, I'll give you some tips.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub9:33

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan9:34

       We need, we need some work on that shit talking jiu-jit, jiu-jitsu.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub9:36

       Conor's probably sending texts right now, "Bro."

   18. JRJoe Rogan9:38

       Mate, tighten it up, mate. Tighten it up.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub9:41

       Find a dolly, find a dolly in the back.

   20. JRJoe Rogan9:43

       Yeah. Well, you know, he's all fucking weirded out.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub9:45

       That may have been Conor's line. Maybe he wrote it for him.

   22. JRJoe Rogan9:48

       Could be. Conor would've done better.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub9:50

       Tell me, mate.

   24. JRJoe Rogan9:50

       Tell them you're willin' to die. You're willin' to die in there, mate?

   25. BSBrendan Schaub9:54

       Yeah, give them a free seminar?

   26. JRJoe Rogan9:56

       Well...

   27. BSBrendan Schaub9:57

       Dillon Danis can be a beast to beat, though, in, in Belator.

   28. JRJoe Rogan9:59

       Oh, yeah, man. Well, especially if Belator gives him the right match ups, you know?

   29. BSBrendan Schaub10:03

       Why wouldn't you, though? It's his first fight.

   30. JRJoe Rogan10:04

       You should.
5. 10:29 – 18:41

   Drug testing skepticism and heavyweight legacy talk: Pride era, TRT, and Fedor context

   1. JRJoe Rogan10:29

      Do you, but do you believe they're testing? When I hear Belator's testing, I always like wink wink.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub10:33

      That's like the Olympia.

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:34

      Yeah, Mr. Olympia. (laughs)

   4. BSBrendan Schaub10:34

      We tested Bromo. Dude.

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:37

      Oh, really? What did he do?

   6. BSBrendan Schaub10:38

      Come on.

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:38

      Do you give him like a written test?

   8. BSBrendan Schaub10:40

      Yeah, come on.

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:41

      (laughs)

   10. BSBrendan Schaub10:41

       What did you take today?

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:42

       Yeah, let's get real.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub10:42

       Nothing. I didn't take nothing.

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:45

       (laughs)

   14. BSBrendan Schaub10:47

       (laughs) A written test. Just a written test.

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:48

       Dudes are fucking eating hay and snorting they're on so much equipoise. (laughs)

   16. BSBrendan Schaub10:53

       Dude. That's like, uh, Canelo. He came back, he did that, uh...

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:55

       Oh.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub10:55

       ... hair follicle sample.

   19. JRJoe Rogan10:57

       Hair test, yeah.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub10:57

       But people are saying bullshit, though.

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:59

       Why?

   22. BSBrendan Schaub10:59

       Uh, they, I guess, the, the, the way it was done. Like, how do we know it's his hair? It's coming from his camp exclusively.

   23. JRJoe Rogan11:05

       Oh, is it?

   24. BSBrendan Schaub11:05

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan11:06

       Yeah. It's his trainer.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub11:07

       Which was like, come on, man.

   27. JRJoe Rogan11:08

       Yeah. It's his ca... He tested positive for being a 55 year old trainer. (laughs)

   28. BSBrendan Schaub11:17

       (laughs)

   29. (laughs)

   30. (laughs)
6. 18:41 – 25:30

   Scientology tangent: networks, ‘stress tests,’ Hollywood influence, and Tom Cruise stunts

   1. JRJoe Rogan18:41

      I think that's true. What? There's a Scientology network?

   2. Mm-hmm.

   3. What? Curious.

   4. Yeah, they just started it recently.

   5. Get the fuck outta here.

   6. Yeah.

   7. And they're ad- they're advertising it on Paramount?

   8. Pssh.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub18:50

      Holy shit.

   10. JRJoe Rogan18:51

       Curious?

   11. BSBrendan Schaub18:52

       Oh, boy.

   12. JRJoe Rogan18:52

       Does it ev-

   13. S- space.

   14. Despa- Despot is Paramount.

   15. I guess.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub18:55

       Well, they might be pay- they got b-

   17. JRJoe Rogan18:56

       Get that cash.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub18:56

       That's Tom Cruise money, son.

   19. JRJoe Rogan18:57

       Yeah. I guess so.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub18:58

       You ever drive by a Scientology building? I drove by last night-

   21. JRJoe Rogan19:01

       Yeah.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub19:01

       ... like, "Oh."

   23. JRJoe Rogan19:02

       I got to test once.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub19:02

       I want in, in there.

   25. JRJoe Rogan19:03

       I got to test. I, I went to one of those things-

   26. BSBrendan Schaub19:05

       Know you did.

   27. JRJoe Rogan19:06

       ... they held the cans. Yeah. I was, uh, filming a TV show for CBS and we were outside in San Diego and, uh, while we had some down time they had this thing set up, like a stress test and you go and you hold onto these cans and they ask you questions. (laughs)

   28. BSBrendan Schaub19:19

       (laughs)

   29. I think, I wanna say Brian did stand-up in there.

   30. JRJoe Rogan19:22

       Did he?
7. 25:30 – 32:33

   Neiman Gracie fight and deep jiu-jitsu technique talk: arm triangles, defenses, and mats

   1. JRJoe Rogan25:30

      No. I don't think anybody beat, like, two minutes and 20 seconds or some shit. (sniffs) Here we go. Neiman Gracie ready to choke a motherfucker.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub25:39

      Last time I saw him fight was on that, uh, uh, Newark, uh, Met Square Garden card. I think it's Renzo's nephew, isn't it?

   3. JRJoe Rogan25:47

      Yeah, correct. Yeah.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub25:48

      He looks hyper-aggressive. He looks like a henzo nephew.

   5. JRJoe Rogan25:52

      (sniffs) Big kid, man. And so the other guy is Javio Torre- Javier Torres, is that his name? Does it say, Jamie?

   6. BSBrendan Schaub26:00

      Yeah.

   7. Yeah, yeah. I think that's right.

   8. Did you see Roy MacDonald asking Ben Askren to sign with Bellator?

   9. JRJoe Rogan26:06

      Yeah. And Ben Askren wants to do it, too. (coughs) Um, uh, Ben Askren still owes fights with ONE FC though, so they would have to do some sort of a co-promotion.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub26:15

       He's under contract with them?

   11. JRJoe Rogan26:17

       Yeah, he owes two fights. He owes two fights with ONE FC.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub26:19

       Hey, ONE FC, I know you're listening. Do us all a solid. Do all the hardcores a solid. Let him out, man, so he can go to UFC.

   13. JRJoe Rogan26:25

       Mm-mm, never gonna let him out. What they would do is they would co-promote. (clears throat) And it's possible, you know-

   14. BSBrendan Schaub26:30

       Not if he wants to fight in the UFC.

   15. JRJoe Rogan26:31

       It's possible.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub26:32

       Oh, hell-

   17. JRJoe Rogan26:33

       It's possible.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub26:33

       ... the UFC co-promote with ONE FC?

   19. JRJoe Rogan26:34

       I mean, you would have to ... It would have to be favorable conditions with the UFC, where, like, they just, you know, it, it-

   20. BSBrendan Schaub26:40

       They can stream it?

   21. JRJoe Rogan26:41

       ... they make some sort of a deal.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub26:42

       With O- ONE FC can stream it or some shit?

   23. JRJoe Rogan26:44

       Yeah. Something. There would have to be something.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub26:46

       God.

   25. JRJoe Rogan26:46

       Or they give them a piece of the revenue, but it would have to be a very small piece.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub26:50

       The odds are already against him to sign with the UFC.

   27. JRJoe Rogan26:52

       Right.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub26:52

       And then you go, "All right, now you gotta make this deal with ONE FC," and Dana's gonna be like, "Kick Ross, man. I tried."

   29. JRJoe Rogan26:56

       Well, what he should do is he should get out of that contract. That's what he should do.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub26:59

       And just smoke two dudes real fast?
8. 32:33 – 58:53

   Bellator business and matchmaking: ratings, branding, and the ‘name doesn’t matter’ argument

   1. BSBrendan Schaub32:33

      Bellator ratings have been rough, rough lately.

   2. JRJoe Rogan32:35

      Have they been?

   3. BSBrendan Schaub32:36

      Rough, rough. So hopefully this one's better.

   4. JRJoe Rogan32:38

      Well, it's a good card.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub32:39

      It's, it's good for MMA in general, you know, when, when Bellator and M- UFC is doing good for MMA in general, it's good.

   6. JRJoe Rogan32:44

      Well, for MMA in general, we need big cards. I mean, it really needs to get more people watching. And these are entertaining fights and there's no reason why more people shouldn't be watching. I think they got a real problem with their name.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub32:58

      It's oversaturated.

   8. JRJoe Rogan32:58

      I've said this forever. The name is stupid.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub33:01

      But even, even-

   10. JRJoe Rogan33:01

       Oh, that's a nice, a nice trip.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub33:02

       Even UFC which is a great name, their ratings suck too sometimes, you know?

   12. JRJoe Rogan33:05

       Sometimes. It doesn't matter.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub33:06

       And then it doesn't matter.

   14. I don't think the name, I don't think the name matters. I don't think it matters at all. I don't think it matters in, with bands and music and movies.

   15. Oh, how dare you?

   16. It doesn't matter.

   17. What? How... Why?

   18. You like Hootie & the Bo- Blowfists? You like that name?

   19. Yeah, I do. Yeah, where are they today?

   20. (laughs) F- Flogging Molly, you like that?

   21. I do. Doesn't bother me.

   22. You like that?

   23. (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan33:21

       (laughs)

   25. BSBrendan Schaub33:21

       It works.

   26. But Hootie & the Blowfish...

   27. JRJoe Rogan33:21

       And you know what? It doesn't matter if you like it 'cause it works. Smashing Pumpkins, if you weren't used to it, you would think... If they never existed-

   28. BSBrendan Schaub33:27

       That's an awesome band.

   29. JRJoe Rogan33:28

       That's a great name.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub33:29

       Oh, dude.

Episode duration: 3:14:29