The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - April 28, 2018
EVERY SPOKEN WORD
150 min read · 30,012 words- 0:00 – 15:00
Bum, bum, bum, bum,…
- BSBrendan Schaub
Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.
- EBEddie Bravo
$15? (burps)
- JRJoe Rogan
No. Three, two... Boom! And we're live, ladies and gentlemen. Live! Mauro Ranallo and Big John McCarthy.
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, Eddie Bravo rocking the old school Helio Gracie shirt. I love that shirt.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Hey, respect, man. Respect.
- EBEddie Bravo
Respect. Deep respect. Brendan motherfucking schump. Oh, and I got a "Sugar" Sean O'Malley shirt. I might strip down later and put this motherfucker on. Is that the best shirt Reebok's ever made?
- JRJoe Rogan
It might be. Might be one of the dopest shirts in history-
- EBEddie Bravo
It's pretty great. It's pretty great.
- JRJoe Rogan
...of Reebok.
- EBEddie Bravo
Reebok's getting better, man. I'll give it to them.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm wearing a pair of Reeboks right... Oh, nope.
- EBEddie Bravo
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
I thought I was. I'm not.
- EBEddie Bravo
I thought I was for a second, too. I did tell you. (laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I had them on earlier today.
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I had a p- Reebok sent me a bunch of sneakers. But that's a dope shirt right there.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah. You know me, I was super critical on them for a while. They're getting way better, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EBEddie Bravo
Way better.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is good.
- EBEddie Bravo
That, that... They... When they posted that I, I got my boy who works at Reebok, I sent him a screenshot and went, "Goddamn, you guys hit this one out of the park."
- JRJoe Rogan
They're embracing it. They're embracing the fact that he's a stoner, like heavy duty.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah, it's just a fun shirt, but it's so tight.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He talks about weed?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, gang, like, go to his Instagram. Dude's getting high all day.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Didn't you see him on the last uh-
- EBEddie Bravo
How does he fight?
- 15:00 – 30:00
He stood out so…
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
He stood out so big in Japan.
- JRJoe Rogan
He was so big.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He couldn't go anywhere.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, you remember when he was, like, a super-duper star over in Japan, but then, um, there was a, a situation with, I believe, it was K-1. They, they wanted him to sign a contract after he fought. And he was like, "I want the contract before I fucking fight, man." Like, "We gotta s- I gotta see the contract." And they're like, "No, you, you fight and then contract." He was like, "Fuck you. This is crazy." So he walked out of the fight and he was done after that. He was the main event. He was- He's lucky he didn't get dealt with. Yeah, he's lucky he didn't get Yakuza-ed. Yakuza style. Yeah. Look at this, 57% Chael thinks- How about Chael has to fight the winner of this? Yeah. That's crazy. Dude, how good did Chael look against Rampage? He looked- He looked fucking good. ... fucking good. His wrestling is always good. He prepares, he's smart. I mean, say what you want about Chael Sonnen, you know, that guy is always prepared. Neeman Gracie. Ooh, this is interesting. (sniffs) I don't know anything about Javier Torres. (coughs) Do you know anything about Javier Torres? I don't know. Hopefully, his jiu-jitsu is good. Yeah. Probably not as good as Neeman Gracie's. Hmm. Interesting. I mean, no one could say anything. Look, whatever everybody was on back then, Fedor was still beating everybody's ass. Yep. So, if they were all on the same shit, Fedor was still beating everybody's ass. Yeah, but the caveat to that is when he came over to the US, he got dealt with with our guys. Yes. Dealt with. Pretty quickly. He s- he struggles with Brett Rogers, right? Yeah. Struggled a little bit with him, gets dealt with with Dan Henderson. Henderson dealt with him. Henderson beat the fuck out of him. He beat Arlovski. Bigfoot Silva fucked him up. Bigfoot Sil- Yeah, he beat Arlovski. He beat Tim Sylvia Arlovski. He beat Arlovski. He beat Arlovski- (laughs) ... in Affliction. There was no testing in Affliction. That Affliction thing was the Wild Wild West. They were, the- I mean, that was- They were T-shirt guys- Yeah. ... throwing a huge event. Yeah. God bless 'em.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Wasn't Arlovski in the air when he got hit?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yep.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Like, he had a flying knee.
- JRJoe Rogan
He did a flying knee. He was winning the fight.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He was whooping his ass, threw a flying knee.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. He was, he was- (laughs) ... dealing with him in the stand-up and then he did something real stupid and he got clipped with a haymaker. That was such a crazy knockout too. That was such a cool fight. 'Cause Arlovski front kicked him to the gut. It was sick. He was boxing him up. He looked good. Arlovski looked good, but he did something really nutty and then all of a sudden, boom, the bomb dropped. So, Fader, Tim Silva under Arlovski and then- Tim Sylvia fight was amazing. Good fight. That was amazing. I mean, he l- Great fight. ... he looked like Fedor in that fight. Correct. It was like, that was a- And then, and then the Strikeforce, then you got, uh, Elite XC, right? And then you got Brett Rogers, Dan Henderson- Bigfoot Verdum. ... Bigfoot Silva, Verdum. Was it, was it Elite XC? Was it na- was it in Elite XC when he fought, uh, Brett Rogers or, no, it was at Strikeforce? I wanna say it was Strikeforce. I think it's Strikeforce. I think Elite XC was just Kimbo. I don't think K- I don't think Fedor- Brett Rogers was Elite XC. Am I going crazy? I think you're going crazy. Because, remember, Strikeforce, uh, Brett Rogers fought Overeem when o- Overeem was Ubering and Overeem- Fucked him up. ... tripped the ... He didn't just k- ... He hit him with a leg kick, like, 15, 20 seconds into the fight. One of those thudding Holland-style leg kicks. And then you see Brett Rogers' face like, "Oh, shit." That's not a snowflake. No, but Overeem hit him with some technique. (laughs) Yeah. Hit him with that real technique.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... that, that's why the argument for Stipe being the best heavyweight of all time is a legit argument, 'cause he's fought clean, he's never been-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... you know-
- JRJoe Rogan
Smi- well, he's-
- BSBrendan Schaub
... nothing.
- JRJoe Rogan
... defended the most, the mo- the UFC title, which is the hardest title to defend, in terms of like historically, no one's defended it more than him. He defended it three times. Nobody else el- beat two.
- BSBrendan Schaub
The only issue with that, if, if you wanna argue against Stipe, and I'm not, I think he's the best of all time, him or Cain. But if you wanna argue that, you're gonna say, "Well the guys he's beat aren't in their prime."
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a good point. That's a good point.
- BSBrendan Schaub
(clears throat)
- JRJoe Rogan
I think that's true. What? There's a Scientology network?
Mm-hmm.
What? Curious.
Yeah, they just started it recently.
Get the fuck outta here.
Yeah.
And they're ad- they're advertising it on Paramount?
Pssh.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Holy shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Curious?
- 30:00 – 45:00
This is pretty sick.…
- BSBrendan Schaub
have gotten knocked out going for leg locks, so the general consensus is don't really worry about leg locks in MMA, they're too dangerous anyways. But-... they're, um, they're, uh, you can get knocked out. It is dangerous in MMA, but they still work. You just gotta know which leg lock positions are the safest. And-
- JRJoe Rogan
This is pretty sick.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... you know, if nothing else is working out, if, if you can't take the guy down, he's beating your ass and it's the third round, you lost the first two rounds, it's the last round, you know, going for a heel hook, it might be a great idea. And if you practice them-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a good option.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... and if you're good at them-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... you have hope in that last round. You know what I mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Don't necessarily go for leg locks right away, 'cause it is risky. See if you can take him down first, see if you can get on top and pass his guard, see if you can get his back. If you can't and it's too dangerous, then at some point your coaches an- and you gotta decide, okay, it's time to go to plan B, plan C. And leg locks should always be the last resort. You know, do you remember Marco Rojas against Gary Goodridge? Gary Goodridge was beating his ass the whole fight. Last 45 seconds, Marco Rojas pulls out a heel hook.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what we used to call them, remember?
- BSBrendan Schaub
They're called-
- JRJoe Rogan
Hail Mary heel hooks.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... Hail Mary heel hooks. Heel hooks were Marco Rojas heel hooks, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That was the thing, that's what we used to call heel hooks, Hail Mary heel hooks. The last resort?
- BSBrendan Schaub
It was like one of those things. Last resort.
Remember Paulo Harris kind of was the one that really made it famous for a while.
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
But then he was getting fucked up when he fought Alan Belt- Belcher-
Yeah.
... who's a black belt.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, Belcher.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He was just like, "I'm gonna sit down on this and just punch you in the face."
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, Belcher really prepared for that.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He's also a black belt.
Look, when you get to the point with your leg locks where you can, when you've been in the fire for a couple years, two, three, four years and you're really good at leg locks and you're going against someone else at that same level, leg locks probably are- aren't gonna be the deciding factor in that fight. They're gonna nullify, so.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
And then if you're going against a guy who's really good at defending and he has good wrestling and good punches, shit-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's Belcher.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... you might, you might sta-
- 45:00 – 58:53
I think losing that…
- BSBrendan Schaub
goddamn good.
- JRJoe Rogan
I think losing that first fight is probably the best thing that could've-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... ever happened to him.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah. Yeah.
Does ... He doesn't train w- with w- you g- does he, or-
For that first fight, he did.
He, he's a 10th Planet guy, right?
Not anymore.
Oh, not anymore.
Yeah. He was. He ... And then after he lost, I think, uh-
They blamed it on the-
- JRJoe Rogan
Dillon Danis has a dope tattoo.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I don't know. I don't know.
That tattoo is-
He just never came back. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Dillon Danis's tattoo is fucking sweet. Like, whoever did that, that's like a real artist. They nailed that.
- BSBrendan Schaub
That dragon?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's really good, man. That's like Aaron DellaDova style. Like, look how good that dragon is, man. Like, what I'm talking about too is not just the image, but-
- BSBrendan Schaub
The shading.
- JRJoe Rogan
... the way it's lined up. Like, the, the, the use of space. Like, when you see a real good tattoo artist, one of the things they do is they really ... They, they fill up the space the right way. With the right amount of darkness, the right amount of lightness, the contrast-
- BSBrendan Schaub
But it fits the-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... the body.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
That part of the body.
(clears throat)
- JRJoe Rogan
It fits perfect.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Sometimes I wish I could go back, 'cause now t- I feel like tattoo artists are so much better.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're so good.
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