Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - January 14, 2018

1. 0:03 – 1:03

   Fight Companion kickoff + Jimmy Smith officially joins the UFC commentary team

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:03

      We're f- we're live, guys.

   2. EBEddie Bravo0:05

      Oh, is it live?

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:05

      Yeah.

   4. EBEddie Bravo0:06

      Okay.

   5. JSJimmy Smith0:06

      Oh ƒ-

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Boom. And we're live, ladies and gentlemen.

   7. JSJimmy Smith0:08

      He wanted a picture quick.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:09

      We're here with the great and powerful-

   9. EBEddie Bravo0:10

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:10

       ... Jimmy Smith. Welcome to the UFC, Jimmy Smith.

   11. EBEddie Bravo0:12

       Thank you so much.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:13

       Official.

   13. JSJimmy Smith0:13

       Great to be here, officially.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:14

       Official. We, we wanted to talk about it last time-

   15. JSJimmy Smith0:17

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:17

       ... when you were on the podcast, but we, we had to dance around it. (laughs)

   17. JSJimmy Smith0:19

       You and ... it's ... so many people-

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:21

       (laughs)

   19. JSJimmy Smith0:21

       ... wrote me were like, "Joe really ... " I go, "Hey, man. Joe's a pro, and he, uh ... " You hinted well.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       We had to d-

   21. JSJimmy Smith0:27

       We danced around it-

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       We had to dance.

   23. JSJimmy Smith0:28

       ... quite a bit.

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       Nobody, nobody totally knew. And, of course, the great and powerful Eddie Bravo.

   25. EBEddie Bravo0:32

       Yo, yo, yo.

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       Brian Callens on the way, but he's bringing wine and cheese. He insists on wine and cheese. He thinks he's at some fucking, fucking cocktail party where they're gonna compare scripts. That's Brian. He's gotta have his wine and cheese. Uh, Duho Cioi versus, uh, Jeremy Stephens is the main event. If you've never heard of one of these podcasts before, this is a fight companion podcast, which means we're gonna watch the fights. Most likely we'll talk about the fights, but we might not. We could talk about whatever the fuck. Like, Eddie and I, we've gone through entire podcasts we never talked about the fight until, like-

2. 1:03 – 2:41

   Commission rules, weight cuts, and missing fights on the card

   1. JSJimmy Smith1:03

      (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:03

      ... the last round of the main event. But Missouri, Missouri Division of Prof ... Oh, they're in Missouri. Is this St. Louis? That's what it is, right?

   3. JSJimmy Smith1:12

      Yeah, th- and they haven't adopted the ABC rules. That's important.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:15

      Hmm.

   5. JSJimmy Smith1:16

      For the judging at least, for sure.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:17

      They haven't, they haven't adopted those in Nevada, which is real weird, man.

   7. JSJimmy Smith1:19

      It's crazy.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:20

      Look how good Michael Johnson looks at 45. Eddie was saying that it's racist to say that, but I don't think it is. Look how shredded he is.

   9. JSJimmy Smith1:27

      Fantastic.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:29

       Yeah, it's a good weight class for him.

   11. JSJimmy Smith1:30

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:31

       I think, uh, you know, just those ... Khabib Nurmagomedov's those giant 55s that could just grapple fuck you and beat your brains in. He had enough of that after that fight.

   13. JSJimmy Smith1:40

       Monstrous. Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:40

       He's like, "That's, that's about enough of this weight class."

   15. JSJimmy Smith1:43

       When people remember how much the other guy talked-

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:46

       Yeah.

   17. JSJimmy Smith1:46

       ... to Dana White while he was beating my ass, that's, that's bad.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:49

       Whew. Yeah.

   19. JSJimmy Smith1:49

       That's bad. And he's a great fighter. And that's what's-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:51

       Yeah.

   21. JSJimmy Smith1:51

       ... so funny about it is.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:52

       Well, this was supposed-

   23. JSJimmy Smith1:53

       That's how good he can be.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:54

       ... to be the main event on the prelims, but Uriah Hall and Vitor Belfort fell out, really unfortunately, which is a fucking bummer. Apparently Uriah Hall was, like, on death's door trying to make weight. But he had, like, gotten sick, I'd heard, during training. He was having some real issues. He said his body shut down about three weeks out. A lot of people out here dealing with that fucking flu.

   25. JSJimmy Smith2:18

       And then Robert Foell's coach died.

   26. EBEddie Bravo2:20

       Yeah.

   27. JSJimmy Smith2:21

       Who was a great guy, by the way, if you ever-

   28. EBEddie Bravo2:23

       That's-

   29. JSJimmy Smith2:23

       ... met Robert.

   30. EBEddie Bravo2:24

       ... such a bummer.
3. 2:41 – 4:26

   Eddie Bravo’s lifestyle changes: quitting alcohol/caffeine + intermittent fasting

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:41

      Um, so instead, this fight, which was gonna be on the prelims, I'm excited about this fight though, 'cause Darren Elkins is some sort of a different kind of human. That guy takes fucking punishment like nobody. E- Eddie Bravo looking for marijuana?

   2. EBEddie Bravo2:54

      No.

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:54

      We have plenty of that.

   4. EBEddie Bravo2:55

      No.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:55

      It's okay. We don't-

   6. EBEddie Bravo2:56

      No, dude.

   7. JSJimmy Smith2:57

      (laughs) We, we can ... This, this is a free world. We live in California.

   8. EBEddie Bravo3:00

      I, I don't drink anymore.

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:01

      It is.

   10. EBEddie Bravo3:02

       And-

   11. JSJimmy Smith3:02

       At all?

   12. EBEddie Bravo3:02

       Nope.

   13. JSJimmy Smith3:03

       That's it?

   14. EBEddie Bravo3:03

       No more drinking.

   15. JSJimmy Smith3:04

       Wow.

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:04

       Uh-huh.

   17. EBEddie Bravo3:04

       No more caffeine. I'm on intermittent fasting. (bell rings) Um ...

   18. JSJimmy Smith3:08

       Da- you look good, dude. Your face-

   19. EBEddie Bravo3:09

       Thank you.

   20. JSJimmy Smith3:10

       ... looks good.

   21. EBEddie Bravo3:10

       Thank you.

   22. JSJimmy Smith3:11

       You look slim.

   23. EBEddie Bravo3:11

       But, but I'm not giving this away.

   24. JSJimmy Smith3:12

       Yeah, don't give that away.

   25. EBEddie Bravo3:13

       I mean, uh, giving it up. Sorry.

   26. JSJimmy Smith3:15

       Giving it up. Don't, don't give it up, don't give it away. So, uh, how long has it been since the booze?

   27. EBEddie Bravo3:21

       (inhales) (sighs) I, I decided initially that I would only allow myself to drink, like, if I did a set somewhere or if I did, um, you know, at, at my, at the 10 Planet Holiday Party I allowed myself to drink. But that was the last time. It's been about a month and a half-

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:40

       Hmm.

   29. EBEddie Bravo3:40

       ... since I've had a drink.

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:42

       Interesting. How do you feel?
4. 4:26 – 9:12

   Heavyweight hype: Stipe Miocic vs Francis Ngannou and what makes Ngannou unique

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:26

      Spea- speaking of hit in the head, the world title, Stipe and Francis, they're showing the preview for it right now. Good fucking-

   2. JSJimmy Smith4:33

      That's gonna be fantastic.

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:34

      ... googly moogly. I've never been more excited for a heavyweight title fight ever.

   4. EBEddie Bravo4:40

      (exhales) Dude's a freak.

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:41

      Oh, he's the freakiest of the freakiest.

   6. JSJimmy Smith4:43

      Unbelievable.

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:43

      He's a one-in-a-million athlete. Like, if you think there's 320 million people in this country, how many Ngannous are there? If there's 300, I'd be fucking stunned. I don't even think he's ... I think it's more than one in a million. Like, a guy who's built like that? 6'4".

   8. JSJimmy Smith5:00

      Don't you think there's ... He's been training three years or something?

   9. EBEddie Bravo5:02

      There's probably a-

   10. JRJoe Rogan5:03

       Five.

   11. EBEddie Bravo5:03

       ... whole shitload of Africa-

   12. JSJimmy Smith5:04

       Oh, it's five years. Five years, totally.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:05

       Was homeless five years ago.

   14. EBEddie Bravo5:06

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:07

       Yeah.

   16. JSJimmy Smith5:07

       That's crazy.

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:08

       Yeah, crazy. Dude worked in a sand mine as a kid, like a goddamn character in a Robert E. Howard comic book. Like, digging sand as a kid.

   18. JSJimmy Smith5:17

       Robert E. Howard, that's all ... He wrote Conan, by the way-

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:19

       Yeah.

   20. JSJimmy Smith5:19

       ... guys.

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:20

       Digging-

   22. JSJimmy Smith5:20

       If you're not a comic book dork.

   23. EBEddie Bravo5:21

       Ooh.

   24. JRJoe Rogan5:21

       Just growing in ... with this anger, this strength.

   25. JSJimmy Smith5:23

       Pushing that thing. Schwarzenegger pushing the, the wheel.

   26. JRJoe Rogan5:26

       The log.

   27. JSJimmy Smith5:27

       The wheel forever, the grinder.

   28. JRJoe Rogan5:28

       I mean, what better workout is there for a young guy who wants to beat the fuck out of people than digging sand all day?

   29. EBEddie Bravo5:35

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan5:35

       Just carrying sand all back and legs and arms. I mean, think about how much strength is required to just fucking dig sand all the time.
5. 9:12 – 13:20

   Fight sync + Michael Johnson at 145 vs Darren Elkins: early striking and pace

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:12

      So here we go, 452, 51, 450, 449 are the first rounds we're trying to sync it up. Michael Johnson and Darren Elkins. And Darren Elkins, here, here's a g- guy who made a big move when he went to Alpha Male. Ma, it's, it made a huge impact on him. He looks way more polished, way, way smoother the way he moves. You really saw that in the Bersa, Me, uh, Mersaude Bektić fight. That was a crazy fight because that was a fight where he was way underdog, like, uh, by a big margin for a good reason. Oh, man.

   2. JSJimmy Smith9:41

      Oh, he's hurt already.

   3. JRJoe Rogan9:41

      Oh, he's getting hurt. Yeah, he's getting tagged. Let's see if Michael Johnson, um, goes after him or if he stays patient.

   4. JSJimmy Smith9:51

      I always think, whenever I see a guy at 35, 45 from Alpha Male, I always think-

   5. JRJoe Rogan9:55

      Ooh.

   6. JSJimmy Smith9:56

      ... when they call them and go, "Well, we need a guy at 45." For you to get that call, you gotta be beastly, 'cause they have a lot of those guys.

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:01

      Yeah.

   8. JSJimmy Smith10:02

      I mean, that's their whole team.

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:03

      Oh, oh, Michael Johnson just tagged him with the left.

   10. JSJimmy Smith10:04

       Hurt him again.

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:05

       He's fast, man. At 45, very fast. And goes-

   12. JSJimmy Smith10:09

       And he's rangy, he's getting good extension on his punches.

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:12

       Yeah, yeah, and at 45 is gonna be enjoying that even more. Uh, good, good height reach of that. He just looks perfectly built for the weight class.

   14. JSJimmy Smith10:21

       Yeah. And he has the speed. A lot of people don't realize when you drop a weight class, those guys are a hell of a lot faster.

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:26

       Oh, yeah.

   16. JSJimmy Smith10:26

       And he has the speed to keep up with those guys. A lot of them don't.

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:29

       Yeah. And I think he's probably gonna be even faster at 45.

   18. JSJimmy Smith10:33

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan10:35

       Ooh.

   20. JSJimmy Smith10:36

       Oh, (sighs) he dangled with that left hand.

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:37

       Yeah, he's hurt.

   22. JSJimmy Smith10:37

       That leg went out on him.

   23. JRJoe Rogan10:40

       Ooh. This is a good fight already. Oh, he tagged him again.

   24. JSJimmy Smith10:46

       Yeah, Elkins hasn't really figured it out. He's waiting on him.

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:50

       Well, he's just, uh, a step slower-

   26. JSJimmy Smith10:52

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:52

       ... for sure, and just not, not nearly as smooth a striker. Elkins relies on his ability to take tremendous punishment in his heart and his endurance where he just never stops at this pace. And if you start to slip... Ooh, sweet left hand. Ooh.

   28. JSJimmy Smith11:08

       Problem is, that's a tough thing to rely on in this business the way MMA is now. "Oh, I'm a tough guy." Well, welcome to the club.

   29. JRJoe Rogan11:13

       (sucks teeth) Yeah, there's like 500 tough guys in the UFC.

   30. JSJimmy Smith11:16

       It's tough.
6. 13:20 – 17:04

   Scoring and judging debate: 10-8 rounds, ABC rules, and Rogan’s proposed overhaul

   1. JSJimmy Smith13:20

      Now, now, once again, this is one of those maybe ABC, it's 10-8.

   2. JRJoe Rogan13:24

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JSJimmy Smith13:24

      Non-ABC, it would probably go 10-9-

   4. JRJoe Rogan13:26

      Right.

   5. JSJimmy Smith13:26

      ... if they haven't adopted the new rules.

   6. JRJoe Rogan13:28

      Do you think that would be 10-8 though? I mean-

   7. JSJimmy Smith13:29

      No, but he could be. I'm saying it, I'm not saying it is.

   8. JRJoe Rogan13:31

      Right.

   9. JSJimmy Smith13:32

      I'm saying with the new rules that they're just a lot more common.

   10. JRJoe Rogan13:34

       Man, I-

   11. JSJimmy Smith13:34

       If you, I- I- it's, I think the actual rule, and please, someone out there correct me if I'm wrong, uh, if someone clearly, if, if they win two aspects of the fight...

   12. JRJoe Rogan13:43

       Ooh, he just hit him with another left hand.

   13. JSJimmy Smith13:44

       And he's certainly landing the significant strikes.

   14. JRJoe Rogan13:47

       But it's-

   15. JSJimmy Smith13:47

       And he's the aggressor.

   16. JRJoe Rogan13:48

       Yeah.

   17. JSJimmy Smith13:49

       So, you could...

   18. JRJoe Rogan13:49

       He certainly has a clear advantage.

   19. JSJimmy Smith13:51

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan13:51

       And I would like to see rounds like that, but Jimmy, I think we need a better score system.

   21. JSJimmy Smith13:55

       It's tough.

   22. JRJoe Rogan13:55

       I think t- the 10-point system from boxing is goofy. I just don't think we need it. I think we need like a 100-point score system that takes into account submission attempts, takedown attempts, defense. Takes that into account leg kicks, knees, elbows, punches. All those things quantified. The, uh, the impact of those techniques, how hard they're hitting, how close the choke is, how close the arm bar is, how good the defense is, you know? Like all those things should be taken into consideration. And I, I think we should have more than three judges. I think having three judges is fucking foolishness. Why three people? I think you, there, you have way more of a likelihood of having some bullshit decision if there's only three people. I think if you have 20 experts, like, or people online... A little cheese? A little cheese?

   23. BCBryan Callen14:38

       A little cheese, buddy.

   24. JRJoe Rogan14:39

       A little cheese, buddy?

   25. BCBryan Callen14:39

       Okay, keep talking. I'm listening.

   26. JRJoe Rogan14:40

       20 experts maybe, you know?

   27. JSJimmy Smith14:42

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan14:42

       Maybe even open it up-

   29. JSJimmy Smith14:44

       Sure.

   30. JRJoe Rogan14:44

       ... to people online, like have-
7. 17:04 – 23:56

   Elkins’ comeback submission shocker + detailed rear-naked choke mechanics

   1. JRJoe Rogan17:04

      Ooh, crucifix. Crucifix.

   2. JSJimmy Smith17:06

      It sucked.

   3. JRJoe Rogan17:06

      Look at this. Mounted crucifix for Elkins and, oh... Look at this. Elkins gets to the back. Three minutes to go. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Imagine if Elkins spoils the big 145-pound party for Michael Johnson.

   4. JSJimmy Smith17:21

      Would not be the first time.

   5. JRJoe Rogan17:23

      It would not be the first time.

   6. JSJimmy Smith17:24

      Nope.

   7. JRJoe Rogan17:24

      You can't fucking sleep on this guy, he's such an animal.

   8. EBEddie Bravo17:27

      He has a better body though.

   9. JRJoe Rogan17:29

      Oh!

   10. BCBryan Callen17:30

       Oh, damn it.

   11. JRJoe Rogan17:31

       Oh, shit!

   12. JSJimmy Smith17:32

       That might happen.

   13. JRJoe Rogan17:33

       Oh, he's under the chin!

   14. BCBryan Callen17:34

       How'd that happen?

   15. JRJoe Rogan17:35

       Oh, shit!

   16. JSJimmy Smith17:36

       Glass over, glass over.

   17. JRJoe Rogan17:36

       He's gonna go to sleep.

   18. JSJimmy Smith17:37

       It's over.

   19. JRJoe Rogan17:37

       He tapped! Oh!

   20. JSJimmy Smith17:38

       Damn!

   21. BCBryan Callen17:40

       Wow.

   22. JSJimmy Smith17:40

       Damn.

   23. JRJoe Rogan17:40

       Oh, Darren Elkins is a fucking savage! Goddamn, that dude's a savage!

   24. JSJimmy Smith17:45

       Took the punches and came back, man.

   25. JRJoe Rogan17:47

       Holy shit! Holy shit!

   26. BCBryan Callen17:51

       Ugh.

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:51

       Darren Elkins is a-

   28. JSJimmy Smith17:54

       Man.

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:54

       ... fucking savage. Whoo!

   30. JSJimmy Smith17:58

       He got teed off on in the first round.
8. 23:56 – 28:39

   EBI overtime, Combat Jiu-Jitsu, and why pure grappling habits can fail in MMA

   1. EBEddie Bravo23:56

      Because VBI overtime, where we start guys on their back and-

   2. JRJoe Rogan23:59

      Mm-hmm.

   3. EBEddie Bravo23:59

      ... in our shootout overtime rounds, the game has grown so much just from getting good at those rounds.

   4. JRJoe Rogan24:06

      Mm-hmm.

   5. EBEddie Bravo24:06

      Just spending a lot of time at dissecting the offense-

   6. JRJoe Rogan24:09

      Spiderweb.

   7. EBEddie Bravo24:10

      ... and the arm bar position and the rear naked choke. The essence of jujitsu-

   8. JRJoe Rogan24:13

      Have you ever, have you considered any other positions that you would allow people-

   9. EBEddie Bravo24:15

      No.

   10. JRJoe Rogan24:16

       ... to do other than those two?

   11. EBEddie Bravo24:17

       No.

   12. JRJoe Rogan24:17

       Those two are good enough?

   13. EBEddie Bravo24:17

       Yeah. There have been people who- that will suggest, "Why don't you get, have-"

   14. JRJoe Rogan24:21

       Right.

   15. EBEddie Bravo24:21

       "... uh, uh, mount one," or whatever.

   16. JRJoe Rogan24:23

       No.

   17. EBEddie Bravo24:23

       Just nice and super crazy basic, something that everyone could agree on. If you're gonna have a shootout in jujitsu, it's gotta be rear naked choke or arm bar.

   18. JRJoe Rogan24:32

       Mm-hmm.

   19. EBEddie Bravo24:32

       That's it.

   20. JRJoe Rogan24:32

       You know.... you know?

   21. JSJimmy Smith24:34

       In other words, you start-

   22. EBEddie Bravo24:34

       We can't start people-

   23. JSJimmy Smith24:35

       ... there? You start there? Wh- whether it's by-

   24. JRJoe Rogan24:36

       You know, it starts-

   25. EBEddie Bravo24:37

       You start with the back and over time.

   26. JRJoe Rogan24:38

       And over time-

   27. JSJimmy Smith24:39

       So- so- so-

   28. JRJoe Rogan24:39

       ... you start from sp- do you know what spiderweb is? Like, you get a guy in side control-

   29. EBEddie Bravo24:42

       An armbar position.

   30. JRJoe Rogan24:43

       ... and you, you hook one of the arms and he's defending-
9. 28:39 – 30:26

   Leg-lock evolution, Danaher Death Squad, and submission safety/etiquette (Toquinho debate)

   1. EBEddie Bravo28:39

      They're risky. But the, the state of the leg lock game these days-

   2. JRJoe Rogan28:45

      Right.

   3. EBEddie Bravo28:45

      ... is way different than those guys that were trying to pull off leg locks back then.

   4. JSJimmy Smith28:49

      So much faster, yeah.

   5. EBEddie Bravo28:50

      Even Raminasato, even that level, he was considered one of the best leg lockers back then. But the level today in leg locks is way beyond that.

   6. JRJoe Rogan28:59

      Yeah.

   7. EBEddie Bravo28:59

      It's, it's way beyond that. What, what, what the guys at, at, uh, DDS have done, I mean, they've taken the leg lock game, I mean, it's, it's beyond Sambo-

   8. JRJoe Rogan29:08

      DDS being?

   9. EBEddie Bravo29:09

      ... it's beyond catch wrestling.

   10. JRJoe Rogan29:09

       Danaher Death Squad.

   11. JSJimmy Smith29:11

       Oh, those guys. Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan29:12

       Danaher Dea- John Danaher.

   13. EBEddie Bravo29:13

       He'll be here-

   14. JRJoe Rogan29:14

       Danaher.

   15. EBEddie Bravo29:15

       John will be here tomorrow at 8:00 AM.

   16. JSJimmy Smith29:17

       Oh, he will?

   17. EBEddie Bravo29:17

       Yeah, we're doing a podcast early morning podcast.

   18. JRJoe Rogan29:18

       Oh, man.

   19. EBEddie Bravo29:18

       Did you, did you... Have you... I was talking to Chael about the last Abu Dhabi and he told me a story. I was laughing my ass off. He said they did the rules meeting and they said, "Well, we want for everybody so no controversies, we want three distinct taps." And everybody goes, "I need to walk out of here." You know, like what we're talking about.

   20. JRJoe Rogan29:39

       Right.

   21. EBEddie Bravo29:39

       You don't have time to do this anymore.

   22. JRJoe Rogan29:41

       For the heel hook. Yeah.

   23. JSJimmy Smith29:42

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan29:42

       You're done. You don't have time to be... Even, even three of these, you're, you know- Yeah.

   25. JSJimmy Smith29:46

       Shit's ripped.

   26. EBEddie Bravo29:46

       ... you're risking an ACL tear. Because everybody looked at each other like, "We- we're all agreeing to not do that." Like all the people were like-

   27. JRJoe Rogan29:52

       Yeah.

   28. EBEddie Bravo29:52

       ... "Okay, if I tap, let me go, dude."

   29. JRJoe Rogan29:53

       Jesus Christ.

   30. JSJimmy Smith29:54

       Right.
10. 30:26 – 32:05

    Emotional interlude: Matt Hughes recovery and his legacy in MMA

    1. JSJimmy Smith30:26

       Oh, look at Matt. Oh.

    2. EBEddie Bravo30:27

       Wow, Matt Hughes.

    3. JRJoe Rogan30:27

       It's not as common as you think.

    4. EBEddie Bravo30:28

       He can barely walk. Oh, my God.

    5. JRJoe Rogan30:30

       Holy shit.

    6. JSJimmy Smith30:30

       No.

    7. JRJoe Rogan30:31

       Well, you know though, it's good to see him out of the wheelchair.

    8. EBEddie Bravo30:34

       It is, dude.

    9. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       Apparently he's recovering. I, I don't...

    10. JSJimmy Smith30:36

        (sighs)

    11. JRJoe Rogan30:37

        He got hit by a train, man, which is crazy. I mean most people would be dead.

    12. JSJimmy Smith30:41

        Makes me want to cry.

    13. EBEddie Bravo30:42

        Yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan30:43

        Fuck.

    15. BCBryan Callen30:45

        Fuck.

    16. JSJimmy Smith30:45

        Wow. Dude, it's- it's just- it's great that he's alive.

    17. BCBryan Callen30:48

        You know the last thing- last thing he said to me-

    18. JSJimmy Smith30:48

        I'm looking at, uh, looking at him going, "Fuck."

    19. JRJoe Rogan30:50

        Yeah.

    20. JSJimmy Smith30:50

        Look at him walking.

    21. JRJoe Rogan30:51

        Yeah.

    22. BCBryan Callen30:51

        That's the way it looked.

    23. JSJimmy Smith30:51

        Think he's gonna come back.

    24. JRJoe Rogan30:52

        Yeah, that's the way it looked.

    25. BCBryan Callen30:53

        We shot a- we shot Warrior together and the last thing he said to me, we had a scene together and- and, uh, it was... This was a week later. He got hit. He said, um... He goes, "I hope I can put my shoes on when I'm older." Fucking makes me wanna...

    26. JRJoe Rogan31:05

        (sighs)

    27. BCBryan Callen31:05

        Oh.

    28. JSJimmy Smith31:06

        Yeah, man. A lot of guys-

    29. BCBryan Callen31:07

        It makes me so emotional. It sucks.

    30. JRJoe Rogan31:08

        Look at him going.
11. 32:05 – 1:16:09

    Kamaru Usman vs Emil Meek: wrestling dominance, guillotine threats, and standup vulnerabilities

    1. JRJoe Rogan32:05

       All right. So we're gonna go to Kamaru Usman and, uh, Emir Mekh. I love this fight.

    2. BCBryan Callen32:09

       Me too.

    3. JSJimmy Smith32:10

       That's good.

    4. JRJoe Rogan32:10

       Nobody wants to fight Usman. Nobody.

    5. BCBryan Callen32:12

       He's a beast.

    6. JRJoe Rogan32:12

       Everybody's running from that dude. That guy is a smashing machine. I mean, he is a fucking tank of a human being. But this Emir Mekh guy, talk about, um, leg locks. He got his way into the UFC by knocking out Toquinho. He, uh, he smashed him in some other organization, I think. Yeah.

    7. BCBryan Callen32:28

       Wait, isn't he fighting the Valhalla guy?

    8. JRJoe Rogan32:30

       Yeah, that's Emir Mekh.

    9. BCBryan Callen32:31

       Oh, okay.

    10. JRJoe Rogan32:32

        Yeah. Emir Mekh is, uh, the- the crazy Viking guy.

    11. BCBryan Callen32:34

        (clears throat) He's a stud. (laughs)

    12. JRJoe Rogan32:35

        He's a fucking animal. Animal.

    13. JSJimmy Smith32:36

        (laughs)

    14. BCBryan Callen32:36

        He's so shredded, it's stupid.

    15. JRJoe Rogan32:37

        But Kamaru Usman, top of the food chain wrestlers. Super athlete. Just a tank of a man who everybody's running from, just running from.

    16. JSJimmy Smith32:46

        Mm-hmm.

    17. JRJoe Rogan32:46

        Nobody wants a piece of him. When you talk about, like, top 10 guys, he's the guy that nobody's mentioning.

    18. JSJimmy Smith32:51

        There's- there's a special thing, I think, in MMA and combat sports, period, is there are guys who are great and then there are guys who are s- frightening.

    19. JRJoe Rogan32:58

        Mm-hmm.

    20. JSJimmy Smith32:58

        Where- where nobody... And- and- and another good example is Toquinho, Polularas.

    21. BCBryan Callen33:02

        Yeah. Right.

    22. JSJimmy Smith33:02

        Even when he was a fringe top 10 guy or, you know, eight or... People were like, "I don't want anything to do with that dude."

    23. BCBryan Callen33:06

        (laughs)

    24. JSJimmy Smith33:07

        "I don't wanna be anywhere near-"

    25. JRJoe Rogan33:08

        Just too powerful of a fighter.

    26. JSJimmy Smith33:08

        Like, "I'd rather have a- I'd rather have a GSP who's better, but won't hurt me, like, Toquinho will rip your leg in half and just have no idea what he's doing."

    27. JRJoe Rogan33:16

        Man, I feel like, uh-

    28. JSJimmy Smith33:17

        He's scary, dude.

    29. JRJoe Rogan33:17

        ... I- I think he did some bad things in the UFC. He definitely held onto submissions-

    30. JSJimmy Smith33:20

        Really bad.

Episode duration: 2:56:08