The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - January 26, 2019
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Fight Companion kickoff: Bellator Grand Prix hype, heavyweight vs weight cutting
- JRJoe Rogan
... have all the results. (lighter clicking) Five, four, three, two, one.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Make sure Brian's off.
- JRJoe Rogan
Boom! And we're live, ladies and gentlemen, to Fight Companion. Uh, it's me, uh, Brian Callahan's on the way, but it's his birthday, and, uh, he's old as fuck. And sometimes you get old, you lose your keys, and you don't know what time it is and shit.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Tesla, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
Eddie motherfucking Bravo!
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yo, yo, yo.
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, and Brendan Schaub is up in this bitch.
- BSBrendan Schaub
What up?
- JRJoe Rogan
And we're watching Bellator. Hope nobody at the UFC gets mad. But it's a big fight. This is an important one. W- we are, um, right now this is the heavyweight finals is gonna be Fedor versus Ryan Bader.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I'm excited for that.
- JRJoe Rogan
I am excited about that! I'm very excited, I like Ryan Bader at heavyweight. He looks fucking fantastic.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Love him. He's bigger than me right now.
- JRJoe Rogan
How... Dude, how many of these guys just should've done that a long time ago and just stopped cutting weight?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Went to heavyweight?
- JRJoe Rogan
Just cr- crucifying their body.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Chris Weidman I think is kinda one of the main ones.
- JRJoe Rogan
You think so?
- BSBrendan Schaub
I think he's gonna excel at light heavyweight.
- JRJoe Rogan
He just got a disc replaced in his neck.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah, he's fucked up, but he'll figure it out.
- 1:02 – 1:32
Why fighters cut weight: fear of being overpowered + old-school mindset
- EBEddie Bravo
The worst nightmare though for a fighter, e- in wrestling or MMA, is just being overpowered by somebody.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- EBEddie Bravo
That's why they're killing themselves. They just wanna... They would rather go in there, uh, depleted, then get thrown around.
- BSBrendan Schaub
It's so old school.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- BSBrendan Schaub
It's such an old school way of thinking, I feel like.
- EBEddie Bravo
It makes sense though, a little bit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EBEddie Bravo
I mean, they're doing that-
- BSBrendan Schaub
To be that bully?
- EBEddie Bravo
... in, in wrestling it's, it's still-
- BSBrendan Schaub
I know, I... But look, look at Cain.
- EBEddie Bravo
But how about we look at TJ Dillashaw? Look at TJ Dillashaw.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Oh, yeah. But that's hard to say. Let's, let's talk about that fight, 'cause I watched that fight several times. Me too.
- 1:32 – 2:56
Early stoppages & referee dilemma: TJ Dillashaw vs Cejudo and historical examples
- EBEddie Bravo
I am of the opinion that was a quick stoppage.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Early stoppage for sure.
- EBEddie Bravo
I thought it was an early stoppage.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Early stoppage, 100%.
- EBEddie Bravo
And here, here's my, here's my other point with that. When they're 125 pounds, you can let it go on a little longer than if they were heavyweights. I'd, I'd err more on the side of let it go longer-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, dude-
- EBEddie Bravo
... 'cause they're 125 pounds.
- JRJoe Rogan
... they could be 1,000 pounds each and that fight got stopped quick.
- EBEddie Bravo
Let them fucking fight.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Let's talk... Let them fucking cry.
- EBEddie Bravo
Jesus Christ.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Especially, especially when we're talking about a legacy fight.
- EBEddie Bravo
Dudes were pissed that-
- BSBrendan Schaub
I was pissed.
- EBEddie Bravo
... dudes were spending 69 bucks.
- JRJoe Rogan
How about TJ?
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah, exactly.
- JRJoe Rogan
How about TJ? How about, think about that guy?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Dude, that's a legacy fight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. That guy drained his body to get down to 125 pounds.
- EBEddie Bravo
Hey, don't get me wrong though, Henry Cejudo is a beast.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Bad. He's a beast.
- EBEddie Bravo
He probably-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yes.
- EBEddie Bravo
... would have beat him anyways.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Maybe, might have.
- EBEddie Bravo
But, but for people that are paying for the, the event-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- EBEddie Bravo
... we wanna see some highlight shit.
- BSBrendan Schaub
100%. It was crazy, yeah.
- 2:56 – 3:52
Submission highlight detour: kimura-to-armbar mechanics explained
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, look at that! Right away!
- BSBrendan Schaub
Oh, fantastic.
- JRJoe Rogan
Damn! We missed an armbar.
- EBEddie Bravo
That was some serious jujitsu right there, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, we'll see it in the highlights. We're, we're-
- EBEddie Bravo
Jesus Christ.
- JRJoe Rogan
... unfortunately have to talk.
- BSBrendan Schaub
We're just warming up.
- EBEddie Bravo
Check out this armbar.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. But that was nice.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Let's get real. Yeah, hell yeah. Good for him.
- EBEddie Bravo
Hey, Bellator's got some fucking high level fights now, man. They are like, uh, on, on the way up. They're as close to the UFC as you can get right now.
- JRJoe Rogan
How about-
- BSBrendan Schaub
They have the biggest prospect in the sport in, in Pico.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Take it-
- BSBrendan Schaub
By far.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
By close.
- EBEddie Bravo
Taking it back a little bit, what about Conan Silveira versus Sakafuckingaraiba? Remember that shit?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah, man!
- EBEddie Bravo
Remember that shit?
- JRJoe Rogan
Same thing! They redid the fight!
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah! (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
The whole fight got redid!
- BSBrendan Schaub
That's old school.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah, it got stopped, it got stopped early.
- JRJoe Rogan
That was Big John too.
- EBEddie Bravo
And then they decided, "You know what? Let him, let them fight again."
- JRJoe Rogan
Big John, he got hit.
- 3:52 – 6:09
Commentary, scoring, and commissions: why ‘unofficial scorecards’ get messy
- BSBrendan Schaub
I don't know why they don't let him chime in unofficially with a scorecard and tell everyone how it's going.
- JRJoe Rogan
He probably does, he probably doesn't wanna do it.
- EBEddie Bravo
I used to do it for UFC. The problem with that though, the problem with that is-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Who doesn't, right?
- EBEddie Bravo
... w- when I did it, the problem was when they announced the unofficial scorecard, and if I was right, and, you know, the general consensus was on my side, and they flash it-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- EBEddie Bravo
... if, if the, uh, if, if the other fighter wins, dude, those judges get trashed.
- JRJoe Rogan
They should be trashed!
- BSBrendan Schaub
They should!
- EBEddie Bravo
Yes! So, so-
- BSBrendan Schaub
They have to be held responsible.
- EBEddie Bravo
But, this is, this... No, this is what it was though. You know, in the beginning, the UFC was, you know, bending over backwards for the commission. Just, you know, just, you know, 'c- 'cause they had to.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Well they still are.
- EBEddie Bravo
They had to.
- BSBrendan Schaub
They still are.
- EBEddie Bravo
But they had to.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
They still have to.
- EBEddie Bravo
But boxing doesn't have to do that. Boxing doesn't have to bend over backwards for the commission. Boxing was around before the commission.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Word.
- EBEddie Bravo
So boxing-
- BSBrendan Schaub
That's a good point.
- EBEddie Bravo
... doesn't have to kiss ass to the commission. The UFC had to because they were a new sport, and the commission could've easily just shut it down, so it was a different dynamic.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Makes sense.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. But the r- the difference is, you were doing it as an independent, meaning you weren't doing commentary. So we were doing commentary, and you were coming in in between rounds. It was very educational. If Big John was doing it, the problem would be that he's actually doing commentary while he's doing it. That's very hard to do. I'm not a fan of doing that. Because when I'm doing commentary, I'm telling you what's happening, but really what I'm trying to do is be entertaining. I'm trying to give some life to it. I'm trying to, like, p- put some emotion to it. But I'm not really scoring.
- BSBrendan Schaub
No, I'm, I'm not saying that.
- JRJoe Rogan
So I can be off.
- BSBrendan Schaub
But I'm, I'm not saying have like, say you score it and then also do the fight. I'm saying, maybe have him outside of it. 'Cause they have 17 commentators.
- EBEddie Bravo
Well, Big John-
- BSBrendan Schaub
They'll try somebody.
- 6:09 – 8:17
Bryan Callen arrives: booth talk, NFL commentary (Tony Romo), and live fight breakdowns
- BCBryan Callen
It was a financial thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
I don't think he left on... He's still on good terms. He... But they offered him less money because they have these other dudes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
So he was like, "Oh, I'm with..." UFC is obviously their dream job, but they signed him a one-year contract.
- EBEddie Bravo
Did you ask anybody why they let him go?
- JRJoe Rogan
They wanna use fighters.
- BCBryan Callen
It wasn't a fit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm. They decided-
- EBEddie Bravo
But he did fight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but no, no, no. They want UFC fighters.
- BCBryan Callen
How dare you?
- EBEddie Bravo
Oh, okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
They want UFC fighters.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah. You know what? That's how the NFL is.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EBEddie Bravo
NFL, you know the, the, the color commentat- tator is always a former NFL player.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, Tony Romo-
- EBEddie Bravo
Always.
- JRJoe Rogan
Tony Romo-
- EBEddie Bravo
I heard.
- JRJoe Rogan
... as a commentator, he crushed it.
- BCBryan Callen
The best.
- JRJoe Rogan
I already crushed it.
- EBEddie Bravo
Is he good? He's good?
- BCBryan Callen
Oh, the best. He calls exactly what's gonna happen before it even happens.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
He goes, "All right, this is..." People kinda dislike it, I love it. He goes, "This is gonna be a run to the right, get ready." (laughs) And then, uh, sure enough, that's what they do. He reads it before it all happens.
- EBEddie Bravo
Wow.
- BCBryan Callen
Then they even check, he goes, "All right, he's gonna throw a, a slant in the top left." Hire that fucking dude.
- 8:17 – 9:37
Pop culture riff: Chris Pratt in the cage + movie taste wars
- JRJoe Rogan
Adele Altamini, Mimi. Adele Altamimi, aka Chris Pratt's friend. (laughs)
- BCBryan Callen
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Chris Pratt's in there with him.
- EBEddie Bravo
Is Chris Pratt a comedian?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, Starlord.
- BCBryan Callen
How you fucking dare? He's the guy who controls the velociraptors, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
The fucking guy from Jurassic Park.
- BCBryan Callen
Dude, I don't watch Jurassic Park.
- JRJoe Rogan
Gardens of the Galaxy?
- BCBryan Callen
That's for kids.
- JRJoe Rogan
Guardians of the Galaxy?
- BCBryan Callen
Oh, my God, I walked out of that as soon as that fucking little wood, little animal thing... What, what do they call it? What is the thing?
- JRJoe Rogan
The Vin Diesel voice.
- BCBryan Callen
What is it? Groot. Groot.
- EBEddie Bravo
Oh, my God.
- JRJoe Rogan
How dare you?
- BCBryan Callen
I walked the fuck outta that movie.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow, the raccoons into it? There's Chris Pratt right there. He's with the guy the whole way. What is happening? Now, this is a little go overboard, Chris.
- BCBryan Callen
Why is Chris so intense too?
- JRJoe Rogan
Chris, I love you, buddy, but get the fuck outta the picture of this.
- BCBryan Callen
He's translating.
- JRJoe Rogan
It doesn't make any sense.
- BCBryan Callen
And that shirt is way too tight.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's translating.
- BCBryan Callen
And that's coming from a guy like me. That's way too tight.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, that's, that's how I like to wear mine.
- BCBryan Callen
No, you don't, sir.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BCBryan Callen
No, you don't.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes, I do. Fuck yeah, especially for my TV.
- 9:37 – 11:13
Bellator business: free TV vs PPV disasters, weak cards, and why buys matter
- BCBryan Callen
Well, we'll let you guys know.
- EBEddie Bravo
... maybe that's Bellator's idea. Maybe they think, "Hey, sh- how about we, we, uh, have celebrities walk out with these fighters?"
- JRJoe Rogan
They'll try anything, bro. They'll try porn.
- EBEddie Bravo
No-
- JRJoe Rogan
Just porn.
- EBEddie Bravo
No, he tried-
- JRJoe Rogan
They'll try, they'll try fighter porn.
- EBEddie Bravo
Isn't Bellator kinda-
- JRJoe Rogan
They'll have fighters, the men fighters-
- EBEddie Bravo
I mean, Bellator is kinda blowing up though, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
... and female fighters- female fighters bang each other. Uh, they-
- BCBryan Callen
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... they're doing well. I mean, it's on Paramount.
- EBEddie Bravo
Is this Pay-per-view?
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- BCBryan Callen
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no, no. Th- that's, was a disaster. They've done Pay-per-view, it was a disaster.
- EBEddie Bravo
Is it-
- BCBryan Callen
Please.
- EBEddie Bravo
Not the Royce Gracie one.
- JRJoe Rogan
The-
- EBEddie Bravo
They made money on that one.
- BCBryan Callen
Well, th- these-
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't think that was Pay-per-view, was it?
- BCBryan Callen
Mm... Th- these do well. Uh, like the, the Paramounts do well. They get good ratings.
- JRJoe Rogan
Am I wrong? I think the Royce Gracie one was not Pay-per-view.
- EBEddie Bravo
Royce Gracie-
- BCBryan Callen
The Royce Gracie-Ken Shamrock. Well, I don't... That's not Pay-per-view. Come-
- EBEddie Bravo
That wasn't Pay-per-view?
- BCBryan Callen
In 1996, it was. They can't do a Pay-per-view in 2016.
- 11:13 – 24:20
Hairline therapy hour: shaving heads, hairpieces, and ‘80s metal aesthetics
- JRJoe Rogan
Hey, if I look like a thumb-
- BCBryan Callen
So bad.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, if I look like a thumb, does Jay Glazer look like a big toe?
- BCBryan Callen
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BCBryan Callen
Big toe or a dickhead.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, I almost shaved my head.
- BCBryan Callen
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I almost shaved my head the other day.
- EBEddie Bravo
Did you do it?
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh-huh.
- EBEddie Bravo
Completely?
- BCBryan Callen
It's freedom, man.
- EBEddie Bravo
You have great hair.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, I'm losing it.
- BCBryan Callen
Freedom.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa. I'm eventually gonna have to shave. You think it's too soon?
- EBEddie Bravo
No, Eddie, no.
- BCBryan Callen
Too soon?
- JRJoe Rogan
Fuck yeah, you got good hair.
- EBEddie Bravo
Okay, okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
Don't join that club yet, bro.
- BCBryan Callen
Shave that shit because-
- JRJoe Rogan
Don't listen to these guys.
- EBEddie Bravo
I'm about, I'm about to go.
- BCBryan Callen
Listen, these guys is one person.
- EBEddie Bravo
Might have to grow a beard.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is one guy here.
- EBEddie Bravo
Callan needs to fucking let it go, let's be real. His hair is going-
- JRJoe Rogan
Shave his head?
- 24:20 – 35:03
Live fight focus: Archuleta vs Bandejas—wrestling control vs striking moments
- BCBryan Callen
Sorry, Juan Archuleta?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Juan Archuleta was a wrestler at Duke. He was second in the nation NCAAs.
- BCBryan Callen
Really?
- BSBrendan Schaub
A hell of a wrestler.
- BCBryan Callen
Oh.
- BSBrendan Schaub
A beast. Fights at 35 usually, I think this might be 35. An outstanding fighter.
- BCBryan Callen
No shit?
- BSBrendan Schaub
And I think is undefeated.
- BCBryan Callen
Well, this is a good fight then-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
... because Ben Diaz is a nasty striker.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Y- he's- he's putting you on your back no matter what, Juan Archuleta.
- BCBryan Callen
Interesting.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He's a beast.
- BCBryan Callen
Interesting.
- BSBrendan Schaub
One of the best wrestlers in the country.
- BCBryan Callen
Interesting. Dude, solid fights tonight.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah. Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
Super solid.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, this is good. You need a cork of wine opener?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah, I need a cork remover and I need one of those-
- BCBryan Callen
It's Pico fighting tonight.
- JRJoe Rogan
... you know, that's your sweet ass he's fighting. And he, it's his toughest test.
- BCBryan Callen
Holy shit. Yeah, Pico's up.
- JRJoe Rogan
And once he- if he- I think he will, if he beats this guy, I bet you we see him get a title shot next. Did you find out if AJ won yet? (glasses clinking)
- BCBryan Callen
No. Oh, here's the thing about Pico too. Listen to this, Rogan. So I- I sat with, uh, Freddie Roach. I did an interview with Freddie Roach, comes out Monday, um, for Showtime.
- JRJoe Rogan
Here it is. Look at this.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Jesus, you got a back on you kid.
- BCBryan Callen
This is the Gallagher knockout.
- 35:03 – 1:04:01
Propecia debate: DHT, depression claims, and Rogan’s ‘boner energy’ story
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, let me tell you something, man. This is why, because I think people that take Propecia and stuff li-... I think you're fucking your body up with that stuff.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I take it. I don't take that.
- JRJoe Rogan
I think that stuff's terrible for you. You should stop taking it.
- EBEddie Bravo
Why? I used to do it long- I, I stopped like 10 years ago.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Why, why do you think it's bad?
- EBEddie Bravo
'Cause it causes depression and he loves it.
- JRJoe Rogan
It caused depression.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Not for me. Well, Arnie already had depression. That's exactly it.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no, no, no, no, he did not. Dude. He did not. He did not.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Oh. Oh. Oh. There you go.
- JRJoe Rogan
Shake down. There you go. Nice shake down.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Everybody shut up. Yeah.
- EBEddie Bravo
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Back up to his feet and the boy's exhausted now.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Now he's not.
- EBEddie Bravo
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Wasted effort.
- BSBrendan Schaub
No, he's... Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes, he is.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Stick goes. There you go.
- EBEddie Bravo
Oh, there you go.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's probably on Propecia too.
- BSBrendan Schaub
There you go.
- EBEddie Bravo
You see that take down that, uh, Joe Benavidez did, like two or three times in his last fight?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes. Yes, yes.
- EBEddie Bravo
Where he sticks out a leg. That is super legit.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's dope. Henzo does that a lot.
- EBEddie Bravo
It's huge.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's, it's... Henzo did that in his last MMA fight. God, I'm sick of this big bitch.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna get, we're gonna get deep into that one. (upbeat music playing)
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