Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - May 27, 2018

Joe Rogan 0:00 Three, two, one. Bam! We're live. We got up early as a motherfucker, ladies and gentlemen. Not really.

Brendan Schaub 0:09 Nah.

Joe Rogan 0:10 It's 10:00 AM. Didn't we do one at like 4:00 AM before?

Brendan Schaub 0:13 We did one at 5:00 AM. Remember that?

Joe Rogan 0:14 What was that for? What was it-

Brendan Schaub 0:15 Damn.

Joe Rogan 0:16 What was that for?

Brendan Schaub 0:16 It was a, uh, it was a England card, right?

Joe Rogan 0:19 Was it? Something.

Brendan Schaub 0:21 It was UFC Congo.

Joe Rogan 0:21 Maybe it was like China or something. Congo. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 0:24 It might've been China.

Eddie Bravo 0:25 It might've been China. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:25 It might've been China. Like, what time is it-

Brendan Schaub 0:26 That makes sense.

Joe Rogan 0:27 ... in Africa right now? Was it yesterday?

Brendan Schaub 0:29 Fuck.

Eddie Bravo 0:29 Yes-

Brendan Schaub 0:30 I think it's... They're 12 hours ahead.

Eddie Bravo 0:32 Is it yest- Is it Wednesday in Africa? (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 0:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:36 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 0:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:36 It's definitely 1960.

Brendan Schaub 0:39 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 0:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:40 (laughs) I forgot he knocked out Whittaker. We're looking at Wonderboy, uh, stopping Whittaker. That's-

Brendan Schaub 0:44 At se- yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:44 That's big.

Brendan Schaub 0:45 At 70.

Joe Rogan 0:46 Yeah, but that was... Whittaker was diminished, man. Getting down to 170 was a fucking battle for him.

Brendan Schaub 0:51 Dude, you look at Wonderboy, what, what he's accomplished, it's so impressive.

Joe Rogan 0:55 Amazing.

Brendan Schaub 0:55 All, all the indicators would point that Wonderboy should win this fight, but I don't... I'm, I'm on the fence, man.

Joe Rogan 1:00 Well, I think Till really is a bad, bad man. There's no question about it. But he did come up real short on the weigh-in, which really bums me out. Now, I had heard that his pregnant girlfriend is in, this is what everyone's saying, is in the hospital and that she's had some serious issues and he's been going back and forth to the hospital. And he hasn't... He just didn't have a chance to cut the weight right. A lot of people claim, you know, that that's exactly what the, what the issue was. I don't know.

Brendan Schaub 1:31 That drama's never good, especially your first-

Joe Rogan 1:34 Not good.

Brendan Schaub 1:34 ... main card, main event in your hometown against Wonderboy.

Joe Rogan 1:38 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 1:38 There's enough pressure as it is.

Joe Rogan 1:40 Well, the Cowboy fight was a big pressure fight, but he rose to the occasion of that in a big way.

Brendan Schaub 1:43 Not really though. Was it? Was it? 'Cause we didn't know who he was, really.

Joe Rogan 1:46 Yeah. But it was his opportunity to fight Cowboy.

Brendan Schaub 1:47 For sure, but you're fighting a smaller guy. It's against Cowboy, you know?

Joe Rogan 1:50 True.

Brendan Schaub 1:51 So, he goes forward and does work. Now, it's like, man, uh, I mean, there's been guys who have blown up before, but the, the hype on, uh, Till... And I'm all up on his dick, but, you know, there's a ton of hype on him.

Joe Rogan 2:02 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 2:02 If he wins this one, it's off to the races.

Joe Rogan 2:04 It is, but he's fucking four and a half pounds over championship weight. That is a lot. That's not a little. That's a lot.

Brendan Schaub 2:11 It's such an advantage too.

Joe Rogan 2:12 It's a big advantage.

Brendan Schaub 2:13 You know, fighters that have missed weight are undefeated this year. When they still fight, they're undefeated.

Joe Rogan 2:17 Yeah. It's a big advantage. I think that with Wonderboy-

Brendan Schaub 2:19 It's a form of cheating.

Joe Rogan 2:20 It is a for... If you do it on purpose, for sure. I think what's interesting what Wonderboy did. He said, "You gotta weigh 188 the next day."

Brendan Schaub 2:26 Tight move.

Joe Rogan 2:27 Yeah. Very smart.

Brendan Schaub 2:28 'Cause Till's a big boy.

Joe Rogan 2:29 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 2:29 Till's a really big boy.

Joe Rogan 2:30 Very, very smart. Like, whatever advantage that he got from not cutting that extra three pounds, you know, now he's, uh... Three and a half pounds? Now he's, um, you know, lost a little bit of it, I guess.

Brendan Schaub 2:40 If-

Joe Rogan 2:40 Still-

Brendan Schaub 2:41 If you're Wonderboy, though, you wanna drag this into later rounds. You know he's gonna come out aggressive. You know he's had some drama cutting weight and he had to cut more weight to maintain it the day-

Joe Rogan 2:50 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 2:50 ... you know, the day of, so...

Joe Rogan 2:51 Yeah. Yeah. It's all fascinating, man. It's all fascinating. We're gonna find out a lot. The other thing is too, the styles. Like, what Wonderboy does is, uh, at kicking distance. Like if you watch, like, the exchanges that he's at, he, he moves real good at the waist, like a snake, like back and forth, but he wants to keep you not even at Muay Thai kicking distance. He keeps you at karate kicking distance.

Brendan Schaub 3:15 Far.

Joe Rogan 3:15 Which is sideways and very far.

Brendan Schaub 3:17 Far. Tough to reach.

Joe Rogan 3:18 And Darren's gotta close that gap. And closing that gap is when Wonderboy's the most dangerous. And if you see some of his training footage, he seems to be concentrating on blitzing in and then... And countering and sidestepping-

Brendan Schaub 3:31 Getting out.

Joe Rogan 3:31 ... and countering. Yeah, and getting out.

Brendan Schaub 3:33 Like a matador.

Joe Rogan 3:33 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 3:33 And if... If you look at Wonderboy's history, uh, whenever he fights aggressive dudes, they get fucked up.

Joe Rogan 3:39 Up. Yeah. That's like his best style.

Brendan Schaub 3:40 That's literally what he wants.

Joe Rogan 3:41 It's his best style.

Brendan Schaub 3:41 He's like, "Come on. Bring it on." And that's what Till wants to do.

Joe Rogan 3:44 Yeah. It's gonna be very interesting.

Brendan Schaub 3:46 It's gonna be a scary fight.

Joe Rogan 3:46 Very interesting.

Brendan Schaub 3:46 But I'm telling you, man, if... Nothing in this fight would surprise me unless Darren Till just goes out there and just murks him.

Joe Rogan 3:51 Murks him. Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 3:51 Just no respect. Murk him. That's the only thing that would surprise me. But if Till does win, strap a fucking rocket ship to that boy's back 'cause-

Joe Rogan 3:58 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 3:58 ... now that Bisping's retired, UK needs a face. That's him.

Joe Rogan 4:01 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 4:01 That... He's the fucking guy, man.

Joe Rogan 4:03 Yeah. Even if he loses, he could still be that. He's 25 years old. I mean-

Brendan Schaub 4:06 Yeah, but not to that extent, you know? Like, if you beat Wonderboy and you, you knock out Wonderboy-

Joe Rogan 4:11 Right.

Brendan Schaub 4:11 ... it's fucking... I mean-

Joe Rogan 4:12 Off to the races.

Brendan Schaub 4:13 ... UK is... Yeah. It's on, man.

Joe Rogan 4:14 He's a super talented striker though. What he did to Cowboy, it wasn't just impressive, it was like complete domination.

Brendan Schaub 4:22 Demoralizing. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:22 I mean, just, just controlled the range. He controlled every single aspect of the exchanges. Cowboy got like one good knee off at one point in time, but that was... And one good right hand to the body. I rewatched the fight the other day, just to kind of get me amped up for this.

Brendan Schaub 4:37 It's so impressive.

Joe Rogan 4:38 Oh, man. He, he obliterated him.

Brendan Schaub 4:39 The, the thing too about Till where I think he has so much hype is a lot of guys talk... Like, n-... Colby Covington's amazing, talented fighter. There's a lot of guys who talk a lot of stuff. I'm like, "All right, it's more of an act. They're super talented." But when Darren Till talks, I'm like, "God." It's almost that Conor McGregor effect. I'm like, "I bel-... This fool actually believes it."

Joe Rogan 4:56 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 4:56 He believes it and he has those ridiculous skills and that's gonna go a long ways.

Joe Rogan 4:59 Mm.

Eddie Bravo 5:00 Eddie Brown, what'd you think? Damn. (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 5:03 There's gonna be no jiu-jitsu in this, Eddie. No jiu-jits.

Eddie Bravo 5:05 I, all I know about-

Brendan Schaub 5:06 If that goes to the ground, we're all fucked.

Eddie Bravo 5:07 All I know about Darren Till is his fight with Cerrone. That's it. Um, this card, uh, you know, is, um, it's gonna be interesting.

Brendan Schaub 5:16 You were gonna have-

Eddie Bravo 5:17 I don't really know about that one.

Brendan Schaub 5:17 You were gonna have Gunnar Nelson on the card though.

Eddie Bravo 5:19 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 5:19 You were gonna have-

Eddie Bravo 5:19 Is Gunnar Nelson on the card?

Brendan Schaub 5:20 No, he got hurt. But you're gonna have Gunnar Nelson, Neil Magny, which was a fun fight.

Joe Rogan 5:23 That's a great fight.

Brendan Schaub 5:24 They were gonna do Gunnar Nelson and Till, but for whatever reason they decided to go with Wonderboy.

Eddie Bravo 5:28 Jason Knight. I know, I know about him. Did he already fight? On the undercard or is he on the main card?

Brendan Schaub 5:32 No, he's, he's on the main card. He's on the main card.

Eddie Bravo 5:33 Oh, beautiful. Who is he fighting?

Brendan Schaub 5:35 Um... Oh, my God. Uh, he has a tough fight. Very tough fight.

Narrator 5:40 Makhmudamir Khan.

Joe Rogan 5:41 Oh.

Brendan Schaub 5:41 Amirkhani. Yeah, he's a monster.

Joe Rogan 5:41 Makhmuda Makhmudamir Khan.

Brendan Schaub 5:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:42 Yeah.

Narrator 5:42 The Japanese guy?

Brendan Schaub 5:43 No, no, no, no, no.

Joe Rogan 5:44 No. He's, uh... Well, he lives in Finland, but, uh, what is his, uh, background?

Narrator 5:49 He's of Kurdistan.

Eddie Bravo 5:50 Who's that right now?

Joe Rogan 5:51 Kurdistan it says.

Brendan Schaub 5:52 He's a really good wrestler who also has wild ass strikes, man. Flying knees and shit.

Joe Rogan 5:57 Super tough fight for your boy, yo.

Brendan Schaub 5:58 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 6:00 Neil Magny. Who's Neil Magny fighting now?

Brendan Schaub 6:05 For Wonderboy though, there's not a-

Joe Rogan 6:06 Craig White.

Brendan Schaub 6:07 ... there's not a ton of upside for him in this fight.

Joe Rogan 6:09 Kwong.

Brendan Schaub 6:09 I don't know why he took it, to be honest. Wonderboy, I think-

Joe Rogan 6:12 It's a good matchup for him, but it's-

Brendan Schaub 6:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:14 You're, you're in dangerous territory, right? You're fighting the number nine guy, you're ranked number one.

Brendan Schaub 6:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:19 He misses weight, he's huge.

Brendan Schaub 6:21 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 6:21 Like, there's just... I, I feel like all the pressure's off Wonderboy right now, especially after he missed the weight. But I just... If you're Wonderboy, you... Even if you starch Till, they're not giving you a title shot. Until Woodley loses that strap, Wonderboy's not fighting for a title. 14-2-1 for Wonderboy. You gotta remember, the only loss was to Tyron Woodley and then to, um-

Brendan Schaub 6:42 Matt Brown.

Joe Rogan 6:44 ... Matt Brown. Those two fights and one draw with Woodley. Crazy. It's a title-

Brendan Schaub 6:49 So why couldn't he fight Woodley again? They fought them... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:52 Well, that's the, that's what he's asking. First of all, he's saying, "Why don't I get a shot at the interim title?" How are you giving the interim title to Colby Covington, who only beat Demian Maia, who's 40 years old, who's clearly past his prime? How is, how is that good enough to get him a shot at the interim title when I don't-

Brendan Schaub 7:08 'Cause he talked a lot of shit.

Joe Rogan 7:09 That's it.

Brendan Schaub 7:10 Yeah, there you go.

Joe Rogan 7:10 That's basically it. But-

Brendan Schaub 7:11 That goes a long way. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:12 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 7:12 But at the same time... Yeah, it goes a long way this day and age. But at the same time, with RDA, you know, they're not doing Colby any favors sending him down to Bra-... Oh, no, I'm sorry, it's in Chicago.

Joe Rogan 7:20 Yeah, Chicago.

Brendan Schaub 7:21 In Chicago to fight RDA, which is... If you look at Colby's style, it's probably the worst matchup for him. He's a heavy, uh, underdog. So I, I'm, I'm, I'm hoping... Not hoping, I think what their plan would be RDA wins that, fights Woodley, which is a tough matchup for Woodley, and if RDA were able to, to beat Woodley, then you have Wonderboy slip in there.

Joe Rogan 7:39 Or Colby wins and then you got mad shit talking with him and Woodley, and it gets very interesting.

Brendan Schaub 7:47 Gets super interesting.

Joe Rogan 7:47 That's... I like that fight.

Brendan Schaub 7:48 It's a good fight.

Joe Rogan 7:49 I like Colby and Tyron.

Brendan Schaub 7:50 Uh, Colby's the underdog in every one of those fights.

Joe Rogan 7:52 Yeah. He is, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 7:53 But RDA/Woodley, you got a barn burner here.

Joe Rogan 7:55 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 7:55 That's a great matchup.

Joe Rogan 7:56 Yeah. RDA/Woodley's very interesting.

Brendan Schaub 7:59 'Cause, 'cause as much as, as they... You know, I l- I love Woodley, I think his style's ridiculous, he's gonna be tough to beat. You know, I think they want some bit of turnover in there-

Joe Rogan 8:07 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 8:07 ... with Woodley. That's what they-

Joe Rogan 8:08 Man.

Brendan Schaub 8:08 They want some turnover.

Joe Rogan 8:09 Well-

Brendan Schaub 8:09 What do you- what, what is RDA gonna do with, to Woodley? I mean, he can't... He's not gonna be able to take him down.

Joe Rogan 8:14 No. He's... The only thing he's got going on is striking.

Brendan Schaub 8:16 Striking skill.

Joe Rogan 8:16 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 8:16 And his movement's good.

Joe Rogan 8:18 And his-

Brendan Schaub 8:18 And if it does go to the, to the ground, and his kicks.

Joe Rogan 8:21 Woodley's a ma-

Brendan Schaub 8:22 But even...

Joe Rogan 8:22 That's a tough one to beat for anybody.

Brendan Schaub 8:24 Oh, for sure.

Joe Rogan 8:24 Yeah, even his striking, even RDA's striking, Woodley has I'll put you to sleep instantly striking.

Brendan Schaub 8:29 Woodley has more power, RDA has better fundamentals, I would say.

Joe Rogan 8:33 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 8:33 As far as putting... Muay Thai, putting it together-

Joe Rogan 8:35 Right.

Brendan Schaub 8:35 ... kicks with the hands.

Joe Rogan 8:36 But you put that speed, the power-

Brendan Schaub 8:37 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 8:37 ... the explosiveness.

Brendan Schaub 8:38 Oh, Woodley's a goddamn nightmare.

Joe Rogan 8:39 He's terrifying.

Brendan Schaub 8:40 No, it's, it's not going to the ground.

Joe Rogan 8:40 Woodley's still the favorite in that fight.

Brendan Schaub 8:42 Yeah, it's not going to the ground.

Joe Rogan 8:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Unless Woodley wants it to.

Brendan Schaub 8:44 Also, I think Woodley just got through shoulder surgery. He just got his labrum repaired, which is not the worst shoulder surgery. And he just did-

Joe Rogan 8:51 What does that mean exactly? Stapled the labrum back to his bone?

Brendan Schaub 8:54 The labrum... No, the labrum, uh, he had some sort of a tear in it that, that fucked up in the Demian Maia fight, like, instantly. (clears throat) They stitched it back together again, but he's gone through crazy PRP and all kinds of other shit. Now, he put up a video of him hitting mitts, and it's only been about three months since the surgery, and he's hitting mitts hard. I don't know if that's an old video, though. He's sneaky. (laughs) You know, he put up this video- (laughs) He's a freak though.

Joe Rogan 9:19 ... of him.

Brendan Schaub 9:19 He might, he might be doing, you know, getting some injections in there.

Joe Rogan 9:22 Yeah, but that's not... That's... He definitely got some injections.

Brendan Schaub 9:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:24 He was talking about all the different things that he's gonna do-

Brendan Schaub 9:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:26 ... for, as far as thir-... He came on the podcast just a few weeks after shoulder surgery, and he was moving around normal and moving his hands around normal. But it, it really depends entirely on how bad the s-... The big one is the bicep tendon. When the bicep tendon gets torn off the muscle, or off the bone, and then they have to put it back in and staple it down-

Brendan Schaub 9:44 Staple it. Never works, yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:44 ... and then they have to... It does work right now, now does. Not for pitchers. If you're a pitcher and that shit goes south-

Brendan Schaub 9:51 Not good.

Joe Rogan 9:51 ... you're diggity-done. But for a fighter, no problem. Doesn't seem to be a problem for fighters.

Brendan Schaub 9:55 But, but I bet Woodley... So you got RDA, Colby. So they'll... Obviously the winner of that will fight Woodley, uh, end of the year. Woodley will be back end of the year, no doubt.

Joe Rogan 10:03 Yeah, could very well be on the December 31st card, you know. That's a big one.

Brendan Schaub 10:08 Huge card.

Joe Rogan 10:08 Uh, you know, I mean, I think they were trying to talk about him being on the August card in LA, but that's not gonna happen.

Brendan Schaub 10:14 God damn, that's soon. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:15 That's a damn good card right now, right?

Brendan Schaub 10:18 LA is?

Joe Rogan 10:18 Who do they...

Brendan Schaub 10:19 Isn't it? Who's on that LA card?

Joe Rogan 10:20 Well, they were waiting for, for GSP/Ney, and obviously that's not happening, so what do you, who do you have now in LA? Let's see. Let's pull that up. Young Chang...

Brendan Schaub 10:27 Did they put... Did they find a, uh, opponent for, uh, Zibit?

Joe Rogan 10:31 Is this gonna be at Staples?

Brendan Schaub 10:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:32 Yeah. Well, they, they, they want to do Cyborg versus Nunes.

Brendan Schaub 10:37 Not happening, Nunes is suspended.

Joe Rogan 10:39 Is she?

Brendan Schaub 10:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:39 What's she hurt?

Brendan Schaub 10:41 Uh, her hands from whooping that ass.

Joe Rogan 10:43 Whooping that ass? Damn. Oh yeah, TJ and Cody. Woo hoo hoo!

Brendan Schaub 10:48 Damn.

Joe Rogan 10:50 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 10:50 That's LA?

Joe Rogan 10:51 Yeah. Ooh, I'm very excited.

Brendan Schaub 10:52 So the card's not-

Joe Rogan 10:53 No, it's a little dark.

Brendan Schaub 10:53 ... it's a struggle street right now. What's the date?

Joe Rogan 10:55 The card? Not nearly as good. August 4th. Card, card's not nearly as good as it was gonna be.

Brendan Schaub 10:59 No. It was gonna be a barn burner, but-

Joe Rogan 11:01 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 11:02 ... Chicago's s- s- s- stacked.

Joe Rogan 11:05 S- s- s- stacked.

Brendan Schaub 11:05 Yeah, so far this card is, uh, not the greatest. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:09 Well, it has a lot of time.

Brendan Schaub 11:09 No.

Joe Rogan 11:09 (laughs) It's not the greatest. But it has some time, though. It does. We're only in May.

Brendan Schaub 11:14 And there's some great fights coming up.

Joe Rogan 11:19 Robert Whittaker-Yeuel Romero, son!

Brendan Schaub 11:21 That's gonna be crazy.

Joe Rogan 11:21 Ooh! Chicago is-

Brendan Schaub 11:24 Good.

Joe Rogan 11:24 ... one of the best cards ever. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 11:25 Ever.

Joe Rogan 11:25 Dos Anjos, Colby Covington, Holly Holm, Megan Anderson.

Brendan Schaub 11:29 Hey, let this sink in. You got CM Punk verse that Ja-... I forget his name... Jackson, over Overeem Curtis Blaydes, Claudy Gedeja, Esparza.

Joe Rogan 11:37 That's so disgusting.

Brendan Schaub 11:38 And then on the undercard you got Rashad Evans, and my boy Joey Benavidez verse Pettis.

Joe Rogan 11:44 Ugh. It's so crazy.

Brendan Schaub 11:45 CM Punk said, "Take a seat, y'all."

Joe Rogan 11:47 That is so crazy.

Brendan Schaub 11:49 Mike Jackson, that's right.

Joe Rogan 11:50 That is, that is so crazy to me.

Brendan Schaub 11:52 0-1 verse 0-1.

Joe Rogan 11:54 Does that piss you off?

Brendan Schaub 11:56 Uh, no, 'cause I get it. 'Cause I'm, I'm not a fight... If I was a fighter, I'd be furious, but out of the game and into entertainment, I'm like, "I get what you're doing."

Joe Rogan 12:03 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 12:04 Selling some Wolf tickets there.

Joe Rogan 12:05 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 12:06 I see, I get what you're doing.

Joe Rogan 12:07 Well, it's not-

Brendan Schaub 12:08 It's, it's the worst fight of all time in UFC history, skillwise.

Joe Rogan 12:11 Oh, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 12:12 Spicey's good. He's about to fight now.

Eddie Bravo 12:14 Eric Spicely, what do you guys know about him?

Joe Rogan 12:16 I don't know anything about him.

Eddie Bravo 12:17 No?

Joe Rogan 12:18 I mean, I've probably seen him fight before.

Brendan Schaub 12:19 He's- he's- he's-

Eddie Bravo 12:20 He's a blackbelt in Jiu-Jitsu.

Brendan Schaub 12:21 ... his Jiu-Jitsu is really good.

Joe Rogan 12:22 Yeah, he's the favorite.

Eddie Bravo 12:23 He's really good.

Joe Rogan 12:24 He has a weird body. Um, where's he from, Jake?

Eddie Bravo 12:28 Somewhere on the East Coast, but he- when he's in LA, he comes through my school.

Joe Rogan 12:31 He's really good.

Eddie Bravo 12:32 He's really good at Jiu-Jitsu. He mercs everybody.

Joe Rogan 12:34 Really?

Eddie Bravo 12:34 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 12:35 Does that, does that CM Punk, Jackson stuff bother you, Joe? Or are you used to it now?

Joe Rogan 12:39 Yeah, bothers me. Yeah. I, I don't like it. I don't mind him fighting. I think it's great that he's fighting.

Brendan Schaub 12:43 In the UFC?

Joe Rogan 12:43 I think it's great that he's testing himself.

Brendan Schaub 12:44 In the UFC?

Joe Rogan 12:45 Even if they wanted to do him in the UFC, have him on the, the, you know, the prelims, put him on FS1. You know, make it, you know, make it a, um, a fight pass thing. No, it's a problem.

Brendan Schaub 12:56 I think his contract won't allow that. I think if his contract can't be pay-per-view.

Joe Rogan 12:59 If it has to be pay-per-view?

Eddie Bravo 13:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:00 I'd assume if you're CM Punk, you're that big of a draw. Maybe he was. Is he still, do you think? How many people are gonna buy that pay-per-view to watch him fight?

Brendan Schaub 13:08 I don't know.

Eddie Bravo 13:09 Is it-

Brendan Schaub 13:09 That first one, he-

Eddie Bravo 13:09 Sam Punk?

Joe Rogan 13:10 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 13:10 That first one, he got his ass whooped so bad.

Eddie Bravo 13:12 How, um ... Is the WWE like raging or-

Joe Rogan 13:16 Huge.

Eddie Bravo 13:16 ... or is it-

Joe Rogan 13:16 That's why-

Eddie Bravo 13:17 It's huge. People are actually going?

Joe Rogan 13:19 It's giant.

Brendan Schaub 13:19 So just like the, that-

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 13:20 I love it.

Brendan Schaub 13:20 ... that RAW, the RAW series which FOX, uh has now, the, which in a lot of people I don't think they realize, FOX decided to go with the WWE instead of the UFC. They turned down the UFC and went with WWE. And now, they have the, the RAW series which gets like three something million viewers every time they air it. It's a built-in audience.

Eddie Bravo 13:38 It's, it's crazy. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:40 I, I always bet on dudes who have hairy backs.

Brendan Schaub 13:43 Yeah, their testosterone's usually way higher than everyone else's.

Joe Rogan 13:46 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 13:46 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 13:46 And he's going bald, so we're two for two.

Joe Rogan 13:48 He's got some fucking gorilla back going on.

Brendan Schaub 13:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:51 Look at that shit, that's some werewolf type shit. But not hairy legs, which is weird.

Brendan Schaub 13:55 Yeah, very strange.

Joe Rogan 13:56 That's not weird, that's some weird hair placement. Unless he's like-

Brendan Schaub 14:00 I think he has a bush.

Joe Rogan 14:01 ... trying to slip out of leg locks. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 14:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:03 He's got his legs all shaved down. He's got a weird body though, right?

Brendan Schaub 14:07 Yeah, right, it's a, it's interesting. He's a ch- he's a character. If he goes to the ground, homeboy's in trouble.

Joe Rogan 14:12 Good jab.

Brendan Schaub 14:13 He's got a good jab.

Joe Rogan 14:17 Look at that pop-up, you know, good range. Oh. Damn, Stuart just popped in.

Eddie Bravo 14:24 Where's Stuart from? He had a white flag. It looked like a Red Cross flag, his country.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 14:29 From England.

Joe Rogan 14:30 Dude.

Brendan Schaub 14:30 Oh, that's England?

Joe Rogan 14:31 Fucking England lad.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 14:33 The, the, yeah the white ... Come on.

Joe Rogan 14:34 Scouse lad.

Eddie Bravo 14:35 I'm sorry.

Brendan Schaub 14:36 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 14:37 I forgot, that's right, he was in Braveheart, I forgot.

Brendan Schaub 14:39 (laughs) I'm sorry.

Joe Rogan 14:40 Fucking Braveheart.

Eddie Bravo 14:41 I haven't seen Braveheart in 10 years.

Joe Rogan 14:42 That was Scotland, bro.

Brendan Schaub 14:43 Come on, man. It's Scotland for God's sakes.

Joe Rogan 14:44 That's a totally different country.

Brendan Schaub 14:46 Goddammit, Eddie.

Eddie Bravo 14:47 Oh, shit. Okay.

Brendan Schaub 14:48 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 14:48 It's still United Kingdom, though.

Joe Rogan 14:49 It's true, good point. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 14:51 Good point. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:52 You know, we were w- uh, talking before the podcast about how good Renato Lorange's, uh, Scouse is.

Eddie Bravo 14:57 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 14:58 His, his Liverpool accent.

Eddie Bravo 14:59 Oh, it's so good.

Brendan Schaub 14:59 It's fucking amazing.

Joe Rogan 15:01 It's so good.

Brendan Schaub 15:01 He's so talented, man.

Joe Rogan 15:02 Yours was good too the other night. The comedy stuff-

Eddie Bravo 15:05 Mine?

Joe Rogan 15:05 Yeah, your Gentile was fucking good.

Eddie Bravo 15:06 Oh, I was doing ... It was good.

Joe Rogan 15:08 I was high.

Eddie Bravo 15:08 Yeah, that was good though.

Joe Rogan 15:09 I was channeling.

Brendan Schaub 15:10 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 15:10 Super legit though.

Joe Rogan 15:12 "I've done everything I can to prepare."

Brendan Schaub 15:16 Yeah, a lot of pressure on that kid.

Joe Rogan 15:18 Yeah, well it's crazy if this is all going on, um, as we heard that while his girlfriend is pregnant and in the hospital.

Brendan Schaub 15:26 And she's having issues like with the baby.

Joe Rogan 15:28 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 15:28 I can't imagine.

Joe Rogan 15:29 Guys-

Eddie Bravo 15:29 Check this out, he's about to take him down.

Brendan Schaub 15:30 We've been through, we've been through pregnancies before, it's terrifying.

Eddie Bravo 15:32 Oh, he's gonna take him down.

Brendan Schaub 15:33 Oh, you just want a healthy baby, that's the last thing you want to deal with fight week.

Joe Rogan 15:36 Exactly.

Eddie Bravo 15:36 There it goes.

Brendan Schaub 15:37 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 15:37 Oh.

Brendan Schaub 15:38 Oh, no, no.

Eddie Bravo 15:38 Maybe not, maybe not.

Joe Rogan 15:40 Is it the same baby mama or a different one?

Brendan Schaub 15:41 We probably don't know.

Joe Rogan 15:42 I have zero idea.

Brendan Schaub 15:43 Yeah, we have no idea.

Eddie Bravo 15:43 Did you sync up, uh, did you, do people know where we're at?

Joe Rogan 15:46 No. Do we have a-

Eddie Bravo 15:48 You still do that?

Joe Rogan 15:48 Yeah, most of the time.

Eddie Bravo 15:49 Is that necessary?

Joe Rogan 15:49 Do we have a, uh, a, a, a number on the screen, Jamie?

Eddie Bravo 15:54 Right there, 239.

Joe Rogan 15:55 Jamie hooks it up on the screen now so people are watching it.

Eddie Bravo 15:58 Oh, okay.

Brendan Schaub 15:58 Oh, tight move, Jamie.

Joe Rogan 15:59 Jamie's on her fucking balls, son.

Brendan Schaub 16:01 Jamie's, uh, is vibrant today because it- it's game seven of the Cavs and he's all nervous.

Joe Rogan 16:05 Oh, look at him, he's got double Cs on like a-

Brendan Schaub 16:07 Double Cs.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 16:08 I gotta go all in.

Brendan Schaub 16:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:09 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 16:09 You gotta go all in.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 16:10 Whatever it, whatever it takes.

Joe Rogan 16:11 He's got a Cavs t-shirt on and a hat.

Brendan Schaub 16:12 Did you wake up and pray this morning, Jamie, for LeBron James' health?

Joe Rogan 16:16 (laughs) He burnt some incense and shit.

Brendan Schaub 16:17 (laughs)

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 16:17 Kevin Love will come back.

Brendan Schaub 16:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:19 I saw that three-pointer that he, that he hit, like, I don't know, game six or something.

Brendan Schaub 16:23 The GameLr?

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 16:24 They actually have something interesting going on, they have a concussion protocol that's getting one of their players out. So like, a guy got hit in the head during the game and he can't play until he goes through like five tests.

Brendan Schaub 16:32 Kevin Love?

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 16:32 Yeah, so he's missing the game 'cause he has to pass.

Joe Rogan 16:33 For fucking basketball?

Brendan Schaub 16:34 For game seven?

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 16:36 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:36 Oh, wow.

Brendan Schaub 16:37 I like Kevin Love 'cause he's a UCLA guy, but God, man the fuck up. This guy from the fire.

Joe Rogan 16:41 Why would-

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 16:41 It's not him, it's the league. It's, there's rules and shit.

Brendan Schaub 16:43 Game seven?

Joe Rogan 16:43 Why would they do that?

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 16:44 It's not him, it's not him, it's the rules, literally.

Brendan Schaub 16:45 But why would they do that for basketball?

Eddie Bravo 16:47 Brain damage, bro.

Brendan Schaub 16:48 Like, has there ever been like some CTE in basketball?

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 16:50 Sure.

Brendan Schaub 16:50 Really? Who?

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 16:51 There's a couple players that have had some problems.

Brendan Schaub 16:53 Really?

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 16:53 It's not like rampant like the NFL obviously, but they get in trouble and they don't wanna be liable and just like the NFL, they get sued at the end of the day.

Joe Rogan 16:59 Oh, makes sense. Makes sense. Crazy though, huh?

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 17:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:04 They're, they're the last people you'd think that would be putting people on the bench.

Brendan Schaub 17:07 Oh, I know, especially game seven. Soccer is a shit load of them.

Eddie Bravo 17:09 So what's going on with the ESPN deal? Like when does that start?

Brendan Schaub 17:12 I don't know.

Eddie Bravo 17:13 So UFC's gonna be on ESPN now?

Brendan Schaub 17:15 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 17:15 No more FOX?

Joe Rogan 17:16 No more FOX.

Eddie Bravo 17:16 That's done?

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 17:17 2000 Fox.

Brendan Schaub 17:18 2019. No, it finishes at the end of this year and then 2019 it starts.

Joe Rogan 17:20 It was supposed to be FOX and ESPN were gonna split it, right?

Brendan Schaub 17:24 Yeah, and then FOX didn't wanna pay like the premium, but I, I think it's better. I think it, I think it was a home run for the UFC, man, to land at ESPN. It's, you know, it's as serious as it gets as far as major sports.

Joe Rogan 17:34 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 17:34 It's on one network. When it, and also, with ESPN, so you have ESPN+ which will get some fight nights and you have regular ESPN, ESPN2. With FOX, not that they didn't do a great job, but it was all FXX, FS2, like, you're like, "Fuck, where is it?"

Joe Rogan 17:48 Where is it? Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 17:48 And then now it's on UFC Fight Pass, and now it's here.

Joe Rogan 17:50 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 17:50 And it's just going...

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 17:51 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 17:51 I think ESPN can learn from the mistakes from FOX and just make it that much better.

Joe Rogan 17:56 I think you're right about that because there's been some times that I thought I had my DVR set-

Brendan Schaub 18:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:00 ... but then I'd get home and it was on FS1, I'm like, "Motherfucker."

Brendan Schaub 18:03 Or sometimes it'd be like my bat- or it's, it's like my bat, NASCAR is playing so it'd go to FXX times six.

Joe Rogan 18:09 Yes.

Brendan Schaub 18:09 Like, well fuck, man, where's that at?

Joe Rogan 18:11 Right. Or a baseball game goes long-

Brendan Schaub 18:12 Yes.

Joe Rogan 18:13 ... and you gotta go to FS2.

Brendan Schaub 18:14 Yes.

Eddie Bravo 18:15 Oh, you gotta find it.

Brendan Schaub 18:16 You gotta find it. Where the fuck is that?

Eddie Bravo 18:16 Where is that at? 672-

Brendan Schaub 18:19 My, my only concern on ESPN is 'cause ESPN obviously has the NFL, has NBA.... how much, how much focus are they gonna put on the UFC?

Joe Rogan 18:27 Right.

Brendan Schaub 18:27 You know, like, we don't wanna be the side chick.

Joe Rogan 18:28 Right.

Brendan Schaub 18:29 The, 'cause they're married to the NBA, NFL, that's, that, that's their baby. Are we the... Is the UFC gonna be the side chick, you know?

Joe Rogan 18:34 Right. Good point.

Brendan Schaub 18:35 That's what you don't want.

Joe Rogan 18:36 But they've been putting on some good boxing matches. They had the Lomachenko fight.

Brendan Schaub 18:39 Yeah, Lomachenko contracted Lomachenko.

Joe Rogan 18:41 Yeah. They had, uh, they had another really good fight on recently too, right?

Brendan Schaub 18:44 Oh, yeah, Lomachenko on my podcast coming up.

Joe Rogan 18:46 Ooh.

Brendan Schaub 18:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:47 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 18:48 Excited for that.

Joe Rogan 18:48 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 18:48 I don't know how much English is, but we'll figure it out.

Joe Rogan 18:50 Yeah. I'm, uh ... They, they contacted me too.

Brendan Schaub 18:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:53 I, I think I'm gonna have him on as well.

Brendan Schaub 18:55 Might as well.

Joe Rogan 18:56 Might as well. I got questions. (laughs) I gotta come-

Brendan Schaub 18:59 I got a lot of questions.

Joe Rogan 18:59 ... watch yours first. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 19:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:03 Make up my mind-

Brendan Schaub 19:05 while watching. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:05 ... before I pull the trigger on that. Like, "Ooh, this one ain't so good."

Brendan Schaub 19:07 You can learn from my ... I'm Fox, you're ESPN.

Joe Rogan 19:10 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 19:10 Learn from my mistakes. Get a translator.

Joe Rogan 19:13 It's, it's sometimes it's like you think it'd be a good idea to have somebody on, but if you had 'em on, be like, "Ooh."

Brendan Schaub 19:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:18 "Well, how long could you talk to them?"

Brendan Schaub 19:20 I know.

Joe Rogan 19:20 You know?

Brendan Schaub 19:21 Well, it'd be for the Showtime Below the Belt TV show, so it's only a six-minute segment.

Joe Rogan 19:26 Yeah, when you've had, uh, you've had Cyborg on, but you've had her on with her boyfriend. Her boyfriend translates? Is that-

Brendan Schaub 19:32 Yeah. Well, no, her English is pretty good, but if there's ever issues, he'll, like, take over, you know?

Joe Rogan 19:37 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 19:37 Like, sh- she'll explain it and then it's a little ... I'm gonna look like, "God, I don't know what you're talking about right now."

Joe Rogan 19:41 Right.

Brendan Schaub 19:41 And then he'll take over.

Joe Rogan 19:42 Right.

Brendan Schaub 19:42 But it works great. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:45 It's hard, you know. When, when I had, uh, Yoel Ron, it was the best 'cause Joey was translating for Yoel. And so Yoel-

Brendan Schaub 19:51 No one better than Joey to translate.

Joe Rogan 19:53 ... it was great, it was great. It's a fucking hard gig though.

Brendan Schaub 19:56 Translating?

Joe Rogan 19:56 Translating.

Brendan Schaub 19:57 Nightmare.

Joe Rogan 19:58 I can't imagine.

Brendan Schaub 19:58 They should have Joey do it for all the fighters.

Joe Rogan 20:00 I mean, Eddie, you speak Spanish. You, you know how hard it is.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 20:02 I barely speak Spanish.

Joe Rogan 20:03 But you speak enough, like, to talk to people.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 20:05 Yeah. You know, we keep it light.

Joe Rogan 20:08 Yeah.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 20:08 F- soon as we get deep, I'm lost. It sounds like Iranian.

Brendan Schaub 20:11 As soon as they start, start, they, they start real flowing fast and-

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 20:13 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 20:13 ... fast and loose.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 20:14 Well, my grandma, when she start ... You know, I was the first of the grandkids to lose Spanish and, uh, felt really shameful because of that. But, uh, man, it was, it was ver- it was really embarrassing hanging out with my grandmother and she's going off, and I'm like, "I don't know what she's saying."

Brendan Schaub 20:29 (laughs) "Hello."

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 20:29 I'm looking over to my aunts and my uncles.

Joe Rogan 20:31 Like, "Come on, man."

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 20:31 I'm like, "What did she just say?" (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 20:33 That's hilarious.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 20:34 It's very, very embarrassing.

Brendan Schaub 20:35 It's tough when you have a translator 'cause you don't get w- in that flow.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 20:38 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 20:38 Like, you know when you're in a pod- there's, there's a flow and you're, like, kinda connecting going back and forth?

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 20:42 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 20:42 Where if there's a translator, it just, it ... the chemistry's not there.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 20:46 Right.

Brendan Schaub 20:46 Like, you don't have that fun kind of flow.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 20:48 Yeah. No. But the one thing that is good though, I, I ... What I find is that it allows you more time to think about what you're gonna say.

Brendan Schaub 20:55 Oh. Oh, shit.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 20:56 Oh, oh, we heard him. We heard him.

Brendan Schaub 20:57 Oh, damn.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 20:58 Stewart's teeing off. Oh, Spicy coming back.

Brendan Schaub 21:03 But t- but sometimes when I have too much time to think about the question, I'm not ... You know, I don't ... It- it's not as fun, it's not as good, it's not as organic, you know?

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 21:09 Right. Right.

Brendan Schaub 21:09 Then I feel like, uh, like I work for ESPN or something like that.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 21:12 Right. I know exactly what you're talking about.

Brendan Schaub 21:13 And I don't wanna be that guy.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 21:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah, right? That's the, the hard part of, like, having these conversations with people, is keeping 'em conversations and not turning 'em into some corny-ass fucking interview.

Brendan Schaub 21:25 The worst. There's nothing worse.

Joe Rogan 21:26 But I, I-

Brendan Schaub 21:26 But sometimes you have to do that. If you, if you can't ... Like, sometimes I feel myself, especially with, with certain boxers-

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 21:31 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 21:31 Oh, he got hurt.

Brendan Schaub 21:32 Oh.

Joe Rogan 21:32 He got hurt.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 21:33 Damn.

Brendan Schaub 21:36 Oh, he's covering up.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 21:37 Oh, he's covering up. They're covering up.

Joe Rogan 21:38 That's it, that's it, that's it.

Brendan Schaub 21:39 Game over.

Joe Rogan 21:39 That's it.

Brendan Schaub 21:39 He was a ... Stewart was an underdog too in this.

Joe Rogan 21:41 Damn.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 21:42 Damn. Hit him with some bombs.

Brendan Schaub 21:44 Englund coming in strong.

Joe Rogan 21:45 Yeah, man. I've watched those, uh, interviews, those standard interviews now where, you know, there's no connection between the person talking and the other person answering the questions, and they're so gross.

Brendan Schaub 21:55 You know, I was having this conversation with, uh, that Ken Jeong, that, that-

Joe Rogan 21:59 Yeah. Dr. Ken?

Brendan Schaub 22:00 Yeah, yeah. Dr. Ken who's amazing, might be the nicest guy in the world.

Joe Rogan 22:03 He's a sweetheart.

Brendan Schaub 22:03 But he doesn't do a lot of ... He- he's like, "Podcast? Really?" I'm like, "Dude, go ... I mean, have your publish it up, Joe," or something. Like, the podcast is, it's as big as it gets, man. He's like, "Yeah." I'm like, like ... And I ... The example I gave him, I go, "Say you went on tonight's show and you do a four-minute segment, you're gonna have to ... You're literally promoting whatever movie or the standup, your special coming out, but that's all you're doing is promoting-"

Joe Rogan 22:24 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 22:24 "... trying to get people to buy that. That's not, that's not real, man. That's not the real you."

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 22:28 Right.

Brendan Schaub 22:28 You know what I mean? We were talking like this. If we film this, people are gonna be a fan of you and then buy whatever you're gonna be into or whatever you're pitching.

Joe Rogan 22:33 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 22:33 That's a much better way to go. There's no time limit.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 22:36 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 22:36 There's no restrictions.

Joe Rogan 22:37 It's crazy that you never get ... There's no other place for that. Like, even Howard Stern would do interviews with people. He would get people to say a lot of shit.

Brendan Schaub 22:45 He had, he had an agenda.

Joe Rogan 22:46 Yeah. He had an agenda.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 22:47 Howard Stern had an agenda?

Joe Rogan 22:49 Typically, yeah.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 22:50 When to get, like, dirt out.

Brendan Schaub 22:51 When you wanna find out-

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 22:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:52 When to get your love life or sex.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 22:52 You wanna find out who you're fucking. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:53 (laughs) Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 22:53 Yeah, that was an agenda though.

Joe Rogan 22:55 That was a big part of it. It's an agenda though. He wouldn't, he wasn't just having a conversation with you.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 22:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:58 He calls himself the dentist. Okay. Get it. Does he fuck people's teeth up or is he-

Brendan Schaub 23:03 Does he have, does he have nice teeth?

Joe Rogan 23:04 He's actually a dentist.

Brendan Schaub 23:05 Well, I hope he has bad teeth. It'd be-

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 23:06 No, he knocks ... He pulls people's teeth out.

Joe Rogan 23:08 It's hard.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 23:09 With his fists.

Joe Rogan 23:09 For sure.

Brendan Schaub 23:10 Mm-hmm.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 23:11 That's a terrible name.

Joe Rogan 23:13 B- yeah, well, it's already been taken too. Josh Neer.

Brendan Schaub 23:15 Yeah, come on, bro.

Joe Rogan 23:16 Old school.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 23:17 That's a great name. Dude that knocks teeth out?

Joe Rogan 23:19 Yeah.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 23:19 Come on, man.

Joe Rogan 23:20 What's a guy like-

Brendan Schaub 23:21 Beautiful.

Joe Rogan 23:21 Like, Josh Neer, in my opinion-

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 23:22 That's like the janitor that will sweep you up.

Joe Rogan 23:24 ... is like, he's a guy that if you're a hardcore fan-

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 23:26 Janitor's a good one.

Joe Rogan 23:26 ... you know who Josh Neer is. And Josh Neer has been around a long time.

Brendan Schaub 23:30 The new fans don't know him though, so they're like, "Ooh, dentist? That's so cool."

Joe Rogan 23:33 He's still, he's still ... That's like calling yourself Hands of Stone if you're a boxer. Lay the fuck off.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 23:38 Yeah, true.

Brendan Schaub 23:38 That's Roberto Duran.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 23:39 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 23:39 Back the fuck up. I'm not saying that Josh Neer's in the same breath as R- Roberto Duran.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 23:43 But still.

Brendan Schaub 23:44 But, but as a fan, a fan for a long time.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 23:47 Hardcore fan.

Brendan Schaub 23:47 Yeah, that's his nickname.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 23:48 Someone had hands of stone though, like someone-

Joe Rogan 23:50 John Lineker. John Lineker.

Brendan Schaub 23:52 Someone from Canada did it.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 23:53 What about, what about Homanick or, or Sam Stout? One of them?

Joe Rogan 23:57 Sam- Sam Stout.

Brendan Schaub 23:58 Sam Stout. That's right. He did it too.

Joe Rogan 23:59 Good call.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 23:59 But so did-

Brendan Schaub 24:00 That's right.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 24:00 So did Homeboy, um, in Strikeforce that came over to the UFC. Remember he had the ... they almost had, like, the double knockout. He hit, uh, Homeboy with a body shot and then he got knocked out.

Joe Rogan 24:09 Oh.

Brendan Schaub 24:10 What's his name?

Joe Rogan 24:11 Scott ... Scott Smith.

Brendan Schaub 24:13 Yeah, Scott Smith. Hands of Stones, right?

Joe Rogan 24:15 Hands of Steel.

Brendan Schaub 24:15 Steel?

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend) 24:16 Steel. There was a Hands of Steel?

Brendan Schaub 24:17 There's a lot of that.

Joe Rogan 24:19 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 24:19 There's a lot of that going around.

Joe Rogan 24:20 Yeah.... some people just go hard with those fucking made-up nicknames. They make them up for themselves.

Brendan Schaub 24:25 Yeah, you can't do that, man. You can't give yourself a nickname.

Joe Rogan 24:29 (crying)

Eddie Bravo 24:29 People still do that. People do all the time.

Brendan Schaub 24:31 You just can't do that.

Joe Rogan 24:32 How do you mean?

Brendan Schaub 24:32 You can't though, it doesn't work that way.

Joe Rogan 24:33 Oh.

Eddie Bravo 24:33 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:34 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 24:34 Like, imagine if you're a kid and you went in a neighborhood and just gave yourself a nickname. Like, "Get the fuck out of here. We're calling you this."

Joe Rogan 24:38 Exactly, exactly. (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 24:40 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 24:40 "Nah, man, I'm, I'm The Dark Knight." "No, you're not." (laughs) Well, that's what I like about Brazilians. Like, they all have, like, silly nicknames, like Shoe Face. You know?

Eddie Bravo 24:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:48 Tree Stump?

Brendan Schaub 24:49 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 24:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:49 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 24:50 It's great.

Joe Rogan 24:50 They have fun nicknames.

Brendan Schaub 24:51 Hell yeah.

Eddie Bravo 24:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:52 Yeah, it's ... Calling yourself... Like, if you're f- if it's 2018 and you just starting out and you call yourself The Pit Bull, fuck off.

Brendan Schaub 25:01 Fuck. Get the fuck out of my face.

Joe Rogan 25:03 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 25:03 Get out of here, man. Fuck off.

Joe Rogan 25:05 There's some that are off limits.

Brendan Schaub 25:06 Hey, is that the most common one? The Pit Bull?

Joe Rogan 25:08 It might be.

Eddie Bravo 25:08 That might be.

Brendan Schaub 25:09 Yeah, Pit Bull's super ... There's about seven pit bulls in Bellator. There's three in the UFC at least.

Joe Rogan 25:14 Yeah. Well, there's girls too.

Eddie Bravo 25:16 Isn't there other cool dogs?

Brendan Schaub 25:17 Is there ...

Eddie Bravo 25:18 Jack Russell.

Joe Rogan 25:21 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 25:21 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 25:21 (laughs) That's the coolest one.

Brendan Schaub 25:23 Those are, they used to, you know, they designed to hunt rats. They're cool.

Eddie Bravo 25:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:26 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 25:26 Those are rat hunters.

Joe Rogan 25:28 Those are rat hunters. Have you ever seen that D- Netflix documentary where they use Jack Russell Terriers to get rats?

Brendan Schaub 25:32 No.

Eddie Bravo 25:32 There you go.

Joe Rogan 25:32 Yo, it's crazy.

Eddie Bravo 25:33 Damn it, it's perfect.

Brendan Schaub 25:34 I feel like I want to watch that.

Joe Rogan 25:35 They tear them apart.

Brendan Schaub 25:36 For an hour?

Joe Rogan 25:37 No, no, no. No, the, the, the d- the documentary's all on how fucked up rats are and how many of them are.

Brendan Schaub 25:41 Oh, got you.

Joe Rogan 25:42 You ever see that? Dude, it will freak you the fuck out.

Brendan Schaub 25:44 I don't do-

Eddie Bravo 25:44 And they use Jack Russells to go after rats?

Joe Rogan 25:46 Yeah, that is why Jack Russells-

Brendan Schaub 25:48 There you go.

Joe Rogan 25:48 ... are so aggressive. (coughs) Little terriers, um, it's one of the reasons why they're so aggressive, is because they're, they're constantly chasing after these fucking rats. When they get them, they tear these rats apart, man. Look at that.

Eddie Bravo 26:00 Damn.

Brendan Schaub 26:00 Dude, those are some bush league dogs. That's, uh, that's a mix. The, the ... Jamie, that's, uh ... Th- this from the movie?

Joe Rogan 26:05 These are. But, they're the bunch of them. They're all-

Brendan Schaub 26:07 These are.

Joe Rogan 26:07 But Jack Russell Terriers, in, in particular, one of the reasons why they're so small and so aggressive, they would go into holes and go after rats.

Brendan Schaub 26:15 Dude, look at the blood on the back. Where the fuck are they?

Joe Rogan 26:18 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 26:18 It's like a Michael Vick video.

Joe Rogan 26:20 Dark place.

Brendan Schaub 26:21 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 26:21 (coughs) But this documentary will freak you the fuck out. There's more rats than there are people in New York City.

Brendan Schaub 26:27 Aren't there, like, thir- it's 30 million or 60 million rats or some shit?

Joe Rogan 26:30 Something, something insane.

Brendan Schaub 26:31 Something crazy. Something insane. And they have, like, all sorts of diseases that-

Joe Rogan 26:34 E- everything that can kill you.

Brendan Schaub 26:35 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 26:35 They have, they have all kinds of deadly shit, you just don't get it, 'cause most people don't get bit by rats.

Brendan Schaub 26:40 And they're smart.

Eddie Bravo 26:41 But we need rats though, right? Don't they eat the trash?

Joe Rogan 26:44 That's a good question. Do we-

Brendan Schaub 26:45 No.

Joe Rogan 26:45 Can't we just ... Do they eat the trash?

Eddie Bravo 26:47 How come we just can't just breed rats-

Brendan Schaub 26:49 Eat the trash?

Eddie Bravo 26:49 ... and just throw them in the dump and just have them eat?

Brendan Schaub 26:51 I don't think they, like-

Joe Rogan 26:52 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 26:52 I don't think they, like-

Eddie Bravo 26:53 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 26:53 ... fucking melt containers, right?

Joe Rogan 26:55 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 26:56 Could this have a ... It's got-

Joe Rogan 26:58 (laughs) Could have rat breeding service. Releases from in the dump. Y'all, they eat cans, everything.

Brendan Schaub 27:02 Stick of trash.

Joe Rogan 27:04 Every single trash bag.

Eddie Bravo 27:05 Trash.

Joe Rogan 27:05 They just eat trash.

Brendan Schaub 27:05 Plastic rats.

Joe Rogan 27:06 Yeah, but now we gotta get rid of the rat shit. Oh, fuck.

Brendan Schaub 27:09 Dude.

Joe Rogan 27:09 I didn't think of that.

Brendan Schaub 27:10 Hey, use it as fertilizer.

Eddie Bravo 27:11 Dude, that can't be good for the dogs' mouths either.

Joe Rogan 27:13 Jimmy Manua. Boom, boom, boom.

Brendan Schaub 27:16 He hasn't fought in a hot minute.

Joe Rogan 27:18 When did he fight last? He lost to somebody.

Brendan Schaub 27:21 Didn't he start or not ... Did he ... I thought he Starched Homeboy, the, the wrestler.

Joe Rogan 27:25 Mm. Who? Oh, Nordine Taleb. He's very good. That guy's good. He's nasty. He ... Isn't he Tri Star?

Brendan Schaub 27:33 Yeah, he is.

Joe Rogan 27:34 (coughs)

Brendan Schaub 27:34 He looks like the, he looks like the guy with the rose in his mouth from Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!

Joe Rogan 27:37 He does.

Brendan Schaub 27:38 Doesn't he?

Joe Rogan 27:39 He does.

Eddie Bravo 27:39 Identical.

Joe Rogan 27:41 He does. Darren Till's got some prominent cheekbones, huh?

Brendan Schaub 27:44 Yeah, he does.

Joe Rogan 27:45 Gorilla-like.

Brendan Schaub 27:46 He does.

Joe Rogan 27:46 I bet that's why he got that nickname, The Gorilla. He looks like he- he's got at least 5% Neanderthal, right?

Brendan Schaub 27:52 Do you think, uh, do you think someone gave him that nickname?

Joe Rogan 27:55 The Gorilla?

Brendan Schaub 27:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:57 I hope so.

Brendan Schaub 27:57 Me too.

Joe Rogan 27:58 That bums me out.

Eddie Bravo 28:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:00 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 28:00 When people give themselves their own nicknames.

Joe Rogan 28:02 Oh, nothing worse.

Eddie Bravo 28:03 "I call myself The Gorilla." I hated, I hated my nickname The Twister so much.

Joe Rogan 28:08 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 28:08 I hated that shit, 'cause I just ... It sounds pretty homosexual.

Brendan Schaub 28:12 The Twister?

Eddie Bravo 28:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:13 Was it?

Eddie Bravo 28:13 Yeah, I was ... 'Cause Higgin and Jean-Jacques would always call me that.

Brendan Schaub 28:16 That's your shit though.

Eddie Bravo 28:17 Because of the, because of the guillotine.

Brendan Schaub 28:18 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 28:18 They called the wrestler's guillotine The Twister and I, I asked, uh, Jean-Jacques, I'm like, "Uh, how do you say The Twister in Portuguese?" And he goes, "Tornado." I go, "Can you call me that? That sounds way better."

Joe Rogan 28:28 (laughs) Tornado's sick.

Eddie Bravo 28:29 Yeah, call me that.

Brendan Schaub 28:30 That's a sexy ...

Joe Rogan 28:31 That's a great ... They would never call me that.

Eddie Bravo 28:32 That's a bummer.

Joe Rogan 28:32 They kept calling me Twister. And it sta- it started soun- it started sounding good when I'd compete and people would start yelling it.

Brendan Schaub 28:39 Twister.

Eddie Bravo 28:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:39 Then I thought, "Okay, okay, I c- I think I like it now."

Brendan Schaub 28:42 I dig it, man.

Joe Rogan 28:43 Tornado.

Eddie Bravo 28:44 Tornado.

Brendan Schaub 28:45 Ooh.

Eddie Bravo 28:45 And just kept thinking of the game, The Twister, and the yellow dots and the green dots.

Brendan Schaub 28:48 No, that's game.

Joe Rogan 28:49 You should get, you should get a tattoo that says El Toronado.

Eddie Bravo 28:51 Yes.

Joe Rogan 28:52 That's fucking dope.

Eddie Bravo 28:53 It never stuck.

Joe Rogan 28:53 Why don't you get ... It's sticking right now.

Brendan Schaub 28:55 We have ... No, I'm gonna call that Toronado.

Joe Rogan 28:57 Toronado.

Eddie Bravo 28:57 Fuck yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:57 Yeah, you should have that on a T-shirt.

Brendan Schaub 28:58 That's way better than The Twister.

Joe Rogan 29:00 Dude, that's a great word.

Brendan Schaub 29:01 Sounds sexy.

Joe Rogan 29:02 Tornado.

Brendan Schaub 29:03 Sounds dangerous.

Eddie Bravo 29:04 Tornado.

Joe Rogan 29:05 Tornado.

Brendan Schaub 29:06 This summer, tornado.

Eddie Bravo 29:08 There you go.

Brendan Schaub 29:08 It could make your movie.

Joe Rogan 29:09 That would be a great license plate if you could fit all those words. Toronado.

Eddie Bravo 29:12 Tornado with an O.

Joe Rogan 29:13 Fit all those letters, Toronado.

Brendan Schaub 29:14 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 29:14 Wait a minute, Tornado does have an O.

Joe Rogan 29:17 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 29:17 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 29:17 It's the exact same thing. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:18 It's A ... There's an A in there.

Brendan Schaub 29:20 Oh, we're just saying it different.

Joe Rogan 29:21 Instead of Tornado-

Brendan Schaub 29:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:22 ... no, there's Toronado.

Eddie Bravo 29:24 Tornado.

Joe Rogan 29:24 There's an A, there's an A in there.

Eddie Bravo 29:26 In English, it's tornade.

Brendan Schaub 29:27 Tornade.

Joe Rogan 29:28 Tornades.

Eddie Bravo 29:28 And then in Spanish, it's tornado.

Joe Rogan 29:30 Is it?

Eddie Bravo 29:30 No, I'm just mad now.

Joe Rogan 29:32 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 29:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:32 Tora- ... The, the A, Toronado, that's what makes it dope.

Brendan Schaub 29:36 Yeah, you can't, you, we can't pick your nickname. Like, Callan called me Big Brown for the longest.

Joe Rogan 29:40 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 29:40 Like, and like why is it? 'Cause you're big and fucking brown. That's just what ... And then, I would walk places, people would yell out, "Big Brown." It's like, all right, well, fuck it. Big Brown.

Eddie Bravo 29:46 That stuck, right?

Joe Rogan 29:47 But that's a good nickname. That's a good nickname.

Brendan Schaub 29:49 Kind of.

Joe Rogan 29:50 It's fun. It's a fun-

Brendan Schaub 29:51 Sorry.

Joe Rogan 29:51 ... nickname.

Brendan Schaub 29:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:53 That's good, but-

Eddie Bravo 29:53 Do you have a last name?

Brendan Schaub 29:54 Nope.

Joe Rogan 29:55 Joao... That's just from you. Yeah, that's it.

Eddie Bravo 29:59 But even when you were doing Tae Kwon Do, no one gave you a nickname?

Joe Rogan 30:02 No.

Eddie Bravo 30:03 Joe?

Joe Rogan 30:03 No. When I was, uh, playing pool a lot, I was Joe The Comedian.

Eddie Bravo 30:06 Dude, GSP went off on you on the, the podcast he just did on your turning sidekick. Holy shit, talk about endorsing this, man.

Joe Rogan 30:13 He was critiquing it? Oh, he said it was good.

Eddie Bravo 30:15 That was GSP for a half an hour is going on about his power.

Joe Rogan 30:18 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 30:18 It was incredible. No shit, George.

Joe Rogan 30:20 Holy shit, that's GSP going off on Joe Rogan. Yeah, we trained a little afterwards. I s- I switched my mats out.

Eddie Bravo 30:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:27 I had those, uh, zebra mats that are super smooth. No bueno.

Eddie Bravo 30:31 Too slick?

Joe Rogan 30:31 Too smooth, too slick.

Eddie Bravo 30:31 Dude, you should do, you should do, uh, a DVD on, on throwing kicks.

Joe Rogan 30:36 Now they're textured. DVD, was it? 1997?

Eddie Bravo 30:38 Dude.

Joe Rogan 30:38 Some sort of a video.

Eddie Bravo 30:39 People still, you know, people still-

Joe Rogan 30:40 Nah.

Eddie Bravo 30:41 John Danaher just put out a DVD.

Joe Rogan 30:43 Well, he put out a video series.

Eddie Bravo 30:44 Yeah, yeah, I bet he did.

Joe Rogan 30:45 But I think it's on demand, right?

Eddie Bravo 30:46 Yeah. I bet he did. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:48 I bet he did. (laughs) John Danaher just living in the 90s.

Eddie Bravo 30:49 What do you mean?

Joe Rogan 30:50 You think he got a flip phone?

Eddie Bravo 30:50 He's still wearing Wranglers and fucking Under Armor tops. Of course he put out a DVD. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:55 Hey, hey. Hey, bro. He's got a strong fanny pack game. He's got a strong fanny pack game.

Eddie Bravo 31:00 (laughs) These are all great points. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:05 (laughs) Yeah, I would, uh, I would do that. George and I, we, we, we went over the front leg sidekick first, which is, like, the most important part of the turning sidekick. Once you get the front leg sidekick down, you understand how that works, then you turn and then it's basically you're turning and then throwing a front leg sidekick. It's just got, like, an extra push to it. But most people do the front leg sidekick wrong. Their knee is too low.

Eddie Bravo 31:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:27 When your knee is too low, you lose all the power.

Eddie Bravo 31:29 Crazy shit. You think he fights, he's gonna fight at 55, the other one is Conor-

Joe Rogan 31:32 I think he's gonna fight at 55, 100%.

Eddie Bravo 31:33 ... could be.

Joe Rogan 31:34 He's only 185 pounds.

Eddie Bravo 31:35 GSP?

Joe Rogan 31:35 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 31:36 He's gonna fight at 55?

Joe Rogan 31:37 100%.

Eddie Bravo 31:37 Wait, what?

Joe Rogan 31:38 And he's only doing it once, and it's gonna be the winner of Conor-Khabib. He started doing... This is... See, look at this. This is what Wonderboy does that's cr- that's weird. That sideways stance is hard to fuck with, man. I used to spar with this guy named Larry Jones. And Larry Jones was this dude who was, like... He was, like, six foot two, but his fucking legs went all the way up to his armpits, man.

Eddie Bravo 31:58 He had a long-

Joe Rogan 31:59 Crazy legs.

Eddie Bravo 31:59 Is that the guy that was, that was standing in front of the bag when you first walked by that Tae Kwon Do school?

Joe Rogan 32:04 No, that was John Lee.

Eddie Bravo 32:05 John Lee.

Joe Rogan 32:05 He was another tall dude.

Eddie Bravo 32:07 Black dude or Chinese dude?

Joe Rogan 32:08 Black dude, black dude. John Lee was a beast.

Eddie Bravo 32:11 That could easily be a Chinese dude.

Joe Rogan 32:12 Yeah, it could be.

Eddie Bravo 32:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:13 Yeah, if you heard it, but he was, like, six foot two, black as coal, bad motherfucker.

Eddie Bravo 32:17 Dude, that's the beginning of the movie, dude. You're walking by that Tae Kwon Do, just whoosh.

Joe Rogan 32:21 Dude, that guy hit so hard.

Eddie Bravo 32:23 Whoosh.

Joe Rogan 32:23 I saw him flatten a lot of people with that too. Um, but anyway, my friend Larry Jones, I was too short, you know. I'm five eight. When I would spar with him, my legs were normal length. (laughs) He was six two, and I just could not get past that front leg sidekick.

Eddie Bravo 32:40 Nightmare.

Joe Rogan 32:41 That front leg sidekick is so hard, and they can just move around with you. It's basically like a jab, and they can move around with you. You know, it's like-

Eddie Bravo 32:49 And they're safe, yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:50 Yeah, you try to get an angle.

Eddie Bravo 32:51 They're out of reach.

Joe Rogan 32:51 Try and get an angle on them. There's actually, uh, a thing on, uh, Renzo's Instagram the other day where he had a photo of Rickson throwing a sidekick, and he was talking about how Rickson liked the sidekick best for vale tudo, um, because you don't, you never lost your base. Like, if you throw a roundhouse kick, you throw the kick-

Eddie Bravo 33:10 You gotta reset.

Joe Rogan 33:10 ... you're spinning around, you're resetting.

Eddie Bravo 33:12 He was kind of throwing, like, a front push kick sidekick.

Joe Rogan 33:14 Yep.

Eddie Bravo 33:15 And he would... Out of all the Gracies, it looked like Rickson threw it with the most power.

Joe Rogan 33:19 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 33:20 Yeah. 'Cause Royce would throw it, but it didn't look powerful, but, but when you watch Royce-Sakuraba 2 when it was at the Coliseum, that's a forgotten fight. People, watch how Royce would be on his back and, and, uh, and Sakuraba standing over him. It was like purgatory. Sakuraba standing. Royce throws sidekicks off his back, dude.

Joe Rogan 33:39 At the knee.

Eddie Bravo 33:40 Dude.

Joe Rogan 33:41 Hard.

Eddie Bravo 33:41 Better than anybody I've ever seen. He's on his side, and he was throwing some serious sidekicks off his back while Sakuraba-

Joe Rogan 33:47 Man.

Eddie Bravo 33:47 ... and fucking up Sakuraba's knees. I've never seen anybody throw them that hard.

Joe Rogan 33:50 If you remember, Rickson did that to Funaki. When Funaki got Rickson down, Funaki broke Rickson's orbital. People forget, like, that, that was Rickson's greatest victory because Funaki was the guy that people were saying, "Well, he's such a good grappler. If he went to the ground with Rickson, he could, he could actually hang with Rickson." But he cracked Rickson with a big right hand, hurt him, fucked up his eye, broke his orbital. And then he went to the ground, and as Funaki was standing over Rickson, Rickson fucked his knees up.

Eddie Bravo 34:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:18 He fucked his knees up with sidekicks off of his back.

Eddie Bravo 34:20 Yeah, that's huge. Huge. And no one practices that shit.

Joe Rogan 34:24 No.

Eddie Bravo 34:24 No.

Joe Rogan 34:25 It's tough to practice.

Eddie Bravo 34:25 And, uh, and, um, um, Renzo, uh, would practice upkicks specifically, just, just in case he was in that purgatory position where he could boom.

Joe Rogan 34:34 Smart.

Eddie Bravo 34:35 And he... It worked against Oleg Taktarov. Remember that?

Joe Rogan 34:38 Yeah, yeah.

Eddie Bravo 34:38 That was the first upkick.

Joe Rogan 34:40 First upkick KO.

Eddie Bravo 34:41 Yep, and, uh, I think it was either... I think Murilo Bustamante did it to Jerry Bolander, or it was either Fabio Gergel to Bolander or Bustamante to Bolander. Upkick, boom, took him out. Bam. You know, upkicks are now legal in combat jiu-jitsu.

Joe Rogan 34:57 They're legal?

Eddie Bravo 34:57 Yes.

Joe Rogan 34:58 Upkicks are legal?

Eddie Bravo 34:59 Upkicks are legal now.

Joe Rogan 35:00 Holy shit. How hard was that to get past?

Eddie Bravo 35:02 Um, you know what? In amateur MMA, upkicks are legal.

Joe Rogan 35:06 Georgi Musasi-

Eddie Bravo 35:06 You know what I mean? Amateur MMA, upkicks are legal. We added them to combat jiu-jitsu because guys were getting too comfortable in purgatory.

Joe Rogan 35:13 Yeah, they were chilling.

Eddie Bravo 35:13 They were stand- just standing over guys. They didn't want to go into anybody's guard.

Joe Rogan 35:16 Bored. Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 35:16 That could kill the show.

Joe Rogan 35:17 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 35:17 So now with the threat, it's really easy to deal with upkicks, so all they got to do is just get to their knees and start passing them. They gotta engage.

Joe Rogan 35:23 Yeah, just engage. All you got... 'Cause you rarely see upkicks in MMA. Rarely, because they're so easy to deal with. But the threat of them will keep you, you know, either away from purgatory or get on your knees and, and commence to passing. That's what it's all about.

Eddie Bravo 35:40 You were about to say Mousasi Jacare?

Joe Rogan 35:42 Yeah, he knocked out Jacare with an upkick.

Eddie Bravo 35:43 And then triangle choked him.

Joe Rogan 35:44 Yep. He fell into triangle. Crazy.

Eddie Bravo 35:45 Yeah, there's been probably, I would say- Mousasi Rory MacDonald, Bellator.

Joe Rogan 35:49 Woo!

Eddie Bravo 35:49 ... like seven total upkicks in history.

Joe Rogan 35:51 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 35:51 Something like that.

Joe Rogan 35:52 Dude, it's rare you see them.

Eddie Bravo 35:53 So we're not adding, we're not adding upkicks to combat jiu-jitsu to increase KOs. We're adding it to increase the ground fight.

Joe Rogan 36:00 Activity. Yeah, that makes sense.

Eddie Bravo 36:01 Don't stand over the guy.

Joe Rogan 36:02 Forces it. That makes sense.

Eddie Bravo 36:02 Let's pass. Let's go.

Joe Rogan 36:03 Engage.

Eddie Bravo 36:03 Yeah, let's get to it.

Joe Rogan 36:04 That's smart. Super smart.

Eddie Bravo 36:05 It is smart. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:06 Yeah, I love combat jiu-jitsu. I love the rule set. I love what it does. It opens up, uh, the reality aspect. You understand that you can't just do certain things. You're gonna get smacked in the face hard.

Eddie Bravo 36:17 Yeah, it keeps your jiu-jitsu honest. That's it.

Joe Rogan 36:19 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 36:19 Don't get too crazy off the beaten path.

Joe Rogan 36:21 Dude, I forgot Holly Holm versus Megan Anderson.

Eddie Bravo 36:23 Yeah.That's a barn burner, too.

Joe Rogan 36:27 Yeah. (coughs) Yeah, it's a big fight for Anderson. It's her f- her first shot at the UFC.

Eddie Bravo 36:31 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 36:31 And right away, Holly Home, you know?

Eddie Bravo 36:33 Is there anybody that could, that could give Cyborg a match? A good, good competition?

Joe Rogan 36:38 They think Megan Anderson.

Eddie Bravo 36:39 Urijah Faber?

Joe Rogan 36:40 Urijah Faber.

Eddie Bravo 36:40 Urijah Faber.

Joe Rogan 36:40 (laughs) If he comes back-

Brendan Schaub 36:41 There's not a woman who's gonna give her any challenge.

Joe Rogan 36:43 Urijah Faber. (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 36:44 Would it be illegal for Cyborg to fight a man?

Joe Rogan 36:47 No, no, it's not illegal if they agree.

Brendan Schaub 36:48 In this whole Me Too movement, how sick would that be?

Joe Rogan 36:51 What are you talking about?

Eddie Bravo 36:52 You know what I'm saying though?

Joe Rogan 36:52 About the guy... (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 36:54 That's a different, uh...

Joe Rogan 36:55 Do you know what I'm saying though?

Brendan Schaub 36:55 Me Too has nothing to do with that.

Eddie Bravo 36:57 No, but you-

Joe Rogan 36:58 Me Too is about sexual assault, bro.

Brendan Schaub 37:00 I know, I know, brother.

Joe Rogan 37:01 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 37:01 And I'm not saying Urijah Faber did that, but you paint this story, you market, she comes out with Me Too and just beats the shit out of a dude.

Joe Rogan 37:06 Oh, God.

Eddie Bravo 37:06 Rose McGowans in her corner.

Joe Rogan 37:08 Oh, my God. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 37:10 Yes! And then in the second round-

Eddie Bravo 37:11 Pucker up, Cyborg!

Joe Rogan 37:12 Joe Rogan steams, comes out of the floor, right behind-

Brendan Schaub 37:15 With smoke.

Joe Rogan 37:15 Right behind Urijah.

Brendan Schaub 37:16 CM Punk's fighting on Main Event, and you're like, "Dude!"

Joe Rogan 37:19 Why not?

Eddie Bravo 37:19 CM Punk against Cyborg? That would be great.

Brendan Schaub 37:21 That's what I said.

Joe Rogan 37:22 She would, she would.

Eddie Bravo 37:22 Oh, you just said it?

Brendan Schaub 37:23 No, I've said that before.

Eddie Bravo 37:24 Just right now? Oh, yeah?

Joe Rogan 37:24 What would she do? What would she do?

Brendan Schaub 37:25 You wanna make bank or not, bro? I rip you off.

Joe Rogan 37:26 What would she do to him?

Brendan Schaub 37:28 She would knock his head off in the fucking...

Joe Rogan 37:31 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 37:31 I mean, it'd just, it'd be like a cartoon. Just (grunting) boom!

Joe Rogan 37:35 Let him wear whatever he wants.

Eddie Bravo 37:36 Weren't you, weren't you guys saying that, weren't you guys saying that, uh, guys could never, uh, an, an, an MMA fighter could, uh, would always beat a girl, right?

Joe Rogan 37:44 No.

Brendan Schaub 37:44 No.

Eddie Bravo 37:44 Weren't you guys, when we were talking about Ronda Rousey back in the day?

Joe Rogan 37:47 (clears throat)

Eddie Bravo 37:47 Like, can Ronda Rousey beat-

Brendan Schaub 37:48 No, this, I said that. He said Ronda could beat Mike Tyson.

Eddie Bravo 37:51 Yeah, no. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:52 I said Godzilla.

Brendan Schaub 37:56 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 37:56 Did you say Ronda could beat Mike Tyson?

Brendan Schaub 37:58 No, I'm fucking with him. He got shit for that. I'm fucking with him.

Eddie Bravo 38:01 With a flying arm bar, maybe.

Brendan Schaub 38:03 No. He, he would still slam her to the ground.

Eddie Bravo 38:05 Even today? H- He's like 50.

Brendan Schaub 38:07 Yeah, I, I did a podcast with him. It was rough. She, she would beat his ass right now. But, um, I think-

Joe Rogan 38:12 Was it rough? Is he, is he doing bad?

Brendan Schaub 38:14 Uh, not doing bad, it's just, you know, when you, when, especially as me growing up with, with Mike Tyson, you think, they say never meet your heroes, you know? So, it's like, I think of him as that Mike Tyson in my head.

Joe Rogan 38:23 Right.

Brendan Schaub 38:23 You know, and then when I saw him, you know, he had sweats on and some white New Balances and, you know, he's out of shape.

Eddie Bravo 38:28 White New Balance? What?

Joe Rogan 38:29 You got a problem with his fashion?

Eddie Bravo 38:30 What's wrong with New Balance?

Joe Rogan 38:31 Right away, right away, you're like, "His fashion's off."

Brendan Schaub 38:34 Well, I, well, don't, don't, don't-

Joe Rogan 38:35 Sweats.

Brendan Schaub 38:35 It's not a Sunday afternoon leisure time. Like, it's the middle of the day.

Joe Rogan 38:38 He was on your podcast?

Brendan Schaub 38:40 I was on his.

Joe Rogan 38:41 You are hilarious with your fashion. You really give a fuck that he wore sweatpants and-

Brendan Schaub 38:45 Oh, yeah. You show a little respect, bro.

Joe Rogan 38:47 (laughs) What is it with you and fashion? That makes no sense to me.

Brendan Schaub 38:51 I don't know, I don't know, man.

Joe Rogan 38:51 I would have never brought it up, him wearing sweatpants and New Balance. I'd be like, "Yeah, he wants to be comfortable."

Brendan Schaub 38:56 Really?

Joe Rogan 38:57 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 38:57 So, I'm like, "Bro, show a little pride." I'm not trying to fuck the guy. No, I don't wanna fuck him. It's like I, it's, it's like I saw, uh-

Joe Rogan 39:01 I don't get it.

Brendan Schaub 39:02 It's, it's like I saw Bret Hart in Calgary and I, I go out and they're like, "He's in the front row," and I go out there and he's in matching sweatsuit, top to bottom. I thought, "Fuck, bro, it's Saturday night, man. You're at my show."

Joe Rogan 39:13 Wait, wait, wait. He's in Canada and he's a former pro wrestler, right?

Brendan Schaub 39:16 Yeah, he's, he-

Joe Rogan 39:17 That's what you're talking about?

Brendan Schaub 39:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:18 Okay. He's in Canada. That's like a three-piece suit up there.

Brendan Schaub 39:22 (laughs) Oh, hell no. Help me.

Joe Rogan 39:24 What are you doing?

Brendan Schaub 39:25 What are you doing?

Joe Rogan 39:25 On Saturday night?

Brendan Schaub 39:27 Saturday, you're out on the town. You can't wear sweats.

Joe Rogan 39:29 That's how they, that's how they roll up there.

Brendan Schaub 39:31 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 39:31 They're just happy it's not 150 below zero.

Brendan Schaub 39:33 Yeah, you might be right.

Joe Rogan 39:34 They're very happy. They're wearing something nice and light, probably a nice-

Brendan Schaub 39:36 I judge people though, man.

Joe Rogan 39:37 Probably a nice sweatsuit, right? A good company?

Brendan Schaub 39:39 Uh, some kind of, like, the McGregor matching grays, you know?

Joe Rogan 39:42 What the fuck is wrong with that?

Brendan Schaub 39:44 And then the white tennies. Ah, dude, it's-

Joe Rogan 39:44 What the fuck is wrong with that? Looks, that looks fresh.

Brendan Schaub 39:46 (laughs) You fucking... You're crazy. You're crazy, man.

Joe Rogan 39:50 Dude. I don't, I have terrible fashion. You can't listen to me.

Brendan Schaub 39:54 You don't though. You have jeans, you always got a nice shirt, you got your fanny pack. Fanny packs are back in the game now.

Joe Rogan 39:58 I brought that shit back.

Brendan Schaub 39:59 Come on.

Joe Rogan 39:59 I want 10% of the credit.

Brendan Schaub 40:01 Fannies, fannies are back.

Joe Rogan 40:01 I want 10% of the credit for bringing that shit back.

Brendan Schaub 40:04 You should. Goo-... I just posted this thing on Hypebeast-

Joe Rogan 40:05 I might have more than 10% of the credit. I'm being, I'm being humble.

Brendan Schaub 40:09 You, you're, you're the guy who I know who's ride or die about fanny packs, and then Cro Cop still fucks with it, but he's unaware on how big of an impact he had on it.

Joe Rogan 40:16 He's in Croatia. They don't know what time it is over there.

Brendan Schaub 40:19 They all wear fanny packs.

Joe Rogan 40:20 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 40:20 You know?

Joe Rogan 40:21 Yo, dude, I wore fanny packs back in the '90s.

Brendan Schaub 40:24 Now, you're in-

Joe Rogan 40:24 I never stopped.

Brendan Schaub 40:25 Yeah, you're first team all fanny pack.

Joe Rogan 40:27 Damn, Nordine Taleb's going off.

Brendan Schaub 40:29 He goes.

Joe Rogan 40:29 I never stopped.

Eddie Bravo 40:29 He just picked him up and slammed the shit out of him.

Joe Rogan 40:31 Yeah. No, he's good, man. Nordine is very good. I never stopped with the fanny pack.

Brendan Schaub 40:36 No, you just ride through it. Even-

Joe Rogan 40:37 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 40:38 ... people are like, "Dude, Joe's fanny packing." I'm like, "I know, man."

Joe Rogan 40:40 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 40:41 It's, it's his thing.

Joe Rogan 40:42 There's a, a photo of me-

Brendan Schaub 40:44 Now you're selling the shit? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:44 ... on, yeah, I sell the shit out of them. I'm always out of stock.

Brendan Schaub 40:47 My boy wants one bad.

Joe Rogan 40:48 HirePrimeMe.com.

Brendan Schaub 40:49 We were at, we were at Disneyland...

Eddie Bravo 40:50 Are we close to MMA in the Olympics?

Brendan Schaub 40:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:53 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 40:53 Oh, we are?

Brendan Schaub 40:54 Yeah, I think we are. Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 40:54 Holy shit.

Brendan Schaub 40:55 Yeah, they're, they're trying.

Eddie Bravo 40:55 They're working on it?

Brendan Schaub 40:56 Yeah, they're trying. Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 40:56 Can you imagine that?

Joe Rogan 40:57 Well, it would be-

Brendan Schaub 40:58 I can't imagine it.

Joe Rogan 40:59 ... amazing. It would be amazing.

Eddie Bravo 41:00 Now, would Russia just win all the belts or... What?

Brendan Schaub 41:03 Well, they, they would if we had some sort of a-

Eddie Bravo 41:05 Americans, man.

Brendan Schaub 41:06 ... fucking situation. But, I mean, Russia would be tough, man.

Joe Rogan 41:10 Well, it, it really depends entirely on drug testing.

Eddie Bravo 41:13 Really?

Brendan Schaub 41:13 They'll figure it out.

Eddie Bravo 41:15 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 41:15 I mean, Russians when it comes, you know, boxing, combat sports, Russia's really... We, it could be-

Joe Rogan 41:19 They're pretty fucking good.

Eddie Bravo 41:20 Would Dagestan be considered Russia?

Joe Rogan 41:22 Well, the thing is though-

Brendan Schaub 41:23 That's what I was putting under the same banner.

Joe Rogan 41:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the thing is, what would happen is, if, if it did become huge in the Olympics, then people would realize, like, you know, how guys like Floyd Mayweather and, uh, all, so many different professional boxers got their start as Olympic gold medalists and then went on to become these huge superstars in boxing. Lomachenko is another good example.

Brendan Schaub 41:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:44 When you have like a-

Brendan Schaub 41:45 Great example.

Joe Rogan 41:45 ... real great amateur background, people get super amped up about seeing them go pro.

Brendan Schaub 41:50 Andre Ward?

Joe Rogan 41:50 Andre Ward, yeah. Anthony Joshua.

Brendan Schaub 41:52 Yep.

Joe Rogan 41:53 (clears throat) You, you get super amped up about seeing those guys go pro.

Brendan Schaub 41:56 In America, it's a little different though, for whatever reason, when it comes to boxing.

Joe Rogan 41:59 Yeah, because we lost.

Brendan Schaub 42:00 We don't get behind it like the other countries.

Joe Rogan 42:01 But we used to with Mark Breland, remember those days? With, uh, Tyrell Biggs. We used to love it.

Brendan Schaub 42:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:06 We used to love it when a guy was an Olympic gold medal... Pernell Whitaker.

Brendan Schaub 42:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:10 You know? Uh, Ray Mercer.

Brendan Schaub 42:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:12 We still love it.

Brendan Schaub 42:12 I mean, I said Andre Ward, but it's still-

Joe Rogan 42:14 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 42:14 ... you know, and he...

Eddie Bravo 42:14 Look at this, leg lock.

Brendan Schaub 42:17 Deontay Wilder is a bronze medalist. It was shame because he started-

Eddie Bravo 42:20 Oh, bad move. Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 42:21 ... super late. He started boxing at like 21.

Eddie Bravo 42:22 Oh. Oh, shit. Anytime you hit them double outside ashis in MMA, that, they're risky.

Joe Rogan 42:28 Well, it's such a weird position to find yourself in if a guy can punch you in the face. And again, goes back to your combat jiu-jitsu. Oh, mounta.

Eddie Bravo 42:34 Yep.

Joe Rogan 42:35 ... goes back to your combat jujitsu. You understand what positions are, like, super dangerous 'cause there's positions that guys regularly practice in jujitsu that will get you fucked up if a guy can punch you in the face.

Eddie Bravo 42:45 Exactly. That's what it's all about.

Joe Rogan 42:47 Yeah. Combat jujitsu is such a good idea.

Eddie Bravo 42:49 Thank you, man. I'm-

Joe Rogan 42:50 And y-

Brendan Schaub 42:50 So hap- And it's going well, right, Eddie?

Eddie Bravo 42:52 Uh-

Brendan Schaub 42:53 Bef- uh, before you answer that-

Joe Rogan 42:54 It's exciting.

Brendan Schaub 42:54 ... do- does it, does the UFC being acquired by ESPN affect the Fight Pass and-

Eddie Bravo 42:59 Not at all.

Joe Rogan 43:00 Oh-

Brendan Schaub 43:00 ... EBI at all?

Eddie Bravo 43:00 Not at all.

Joe Rogan 43:00 You gotta smash that big elbow.

Brendan Schaub 43:01 'Cause are they gonna continue with the Fight Pass?

Eddie Bravo 43:03 Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah.

Brendan Schaub 43:04 Are you sure?

Eddie Bravo 43:05 Absol- as a matter of fact, the, the, the president of Fight Pass, when that deal went through, emailed me personally to let me know. He goes, "Listen, this i- this deal has nothing to do-"

Joe Rogan 43:14 Look at this.

Eddie Bravo 43:14 "... with Fight Pass."

Joe Rogan 43:15 Look at this. Look at this.

Brendan Schaub 43:16 Game over, son.

Joe Rogan 43:17 Oh, body triangle.

Brendan Schaub 43:18 It's on the chin.

Joe Rogan 43:19 Deep, deep, deep, deep, deep h- can you hang in there for 40 seconds? I don't think so, son.

Brendan Schaub 43:23 No, he's in trouble.

Eddie Bravo 43:25 He's got to, he's got to cinch it up.

Joe Rogan 43:26 He's tapping. He's tapping.

Eddie Bravo 43:27 He's about to tap. No, it's on the chin. He, he still-

Brendan Schaub 43:30 Oh.

Eddie Bravo 43:30 Oh, he's out.

Brendan Schaub 43:31 Almost broke his jaw.

Joe Rogan 43:32 Damn.

Brendan Schaub 43:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:33 Um.

Eddie Bravo 43:34 That's some pretty-

Brendan Schaub 43:34 So they said you're good-

Joe Rogan 43:35 ... strong-

Brendan Schaub 43:35 ... 'cause the only problem you'd have to worry about is now that people are gonna have to subscribe to ESPN+, you get the full ESPN experience now, they're gonna have to pay for that and Fight Pass.

Joe Rogan 43:46 Is that real?

Brendan Schaub 43:47 Uh, that's real. So-

Eddie Bravo 43:49 Fight Pass doesn't really change at all. They're not getting rid of Fight Pass at all. I mean-

Brendan Schaub 43:52 They're not getting rid of it as far as it growing could be an issue.

Joe Rogan 43:54 But how does that-

Brendan Schaub 43:54 I think the fan base stays.

Joe Rogan 43:56 ... how does that work though? They're gonna stream some fights still on Fight Pass?

Brendan Schaub 43:59 No.

Joe Rogan 44:00 What?

Brendan Schaub 44:00 I don't think so.

Joe Rogan 44:01 What do you mean?

Brendan Schaub 44:01 Uh, ESPN's gonna take all that content.

Joe Rogan 44:04 What?

Brendan Schaub 44:05 'Cause, 'cause you have, right? 'Cause now ESPN+ and ESPN platforms can have 30 fights, then ESPN's gonna have 12 pay-per-views at least. So you have 42 fights a year now.

Joe Rogan 44:14 So there's no-

Brendan Schaub 44:15 I could be wrong.

Joe Rogan 44:16 ... Fight Pass cards?

Brendan Schaub 44:16 Jamie, correct me if I'm wrong.

Joe Rogan 44:18 There's no Fight Pass cards?

Brendan Schaub 44:19 I don't think so. I think it's just-

Joe Rogan 44:20 They should say-

Brendan Schaub 44:20 ... I think it's just gonna be a database for stuff like-

Eddie Bravo 44:22 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 44:22 ... Eddie's old school fight libraries and then, you know-

Joe Rogan 44:26 That's a tough sell.

Brendan Schaub 44:26 ... whatever else, yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:27 That's a tough sell.

Brendan Schaub 44:28 So I, I don't think it's gonna grow. I think it's gonna continue what it's doing and stuff like Eddie's might grow, but people are gonna be-

Joe Rogan 44:35 I'll-

Brendan Schaub 44:35 ... obviously more ESPN+ packaging.

Joe Rogan 44:37 That's a tough sell because I, I love it. I think Fight Pass is awesome and if you wanna just go old school and watch a bunch of great old fights, it's the best format on the planet Earth.

Brendan Schaub 44:46 If you're a hardcore fan.

Joe Rogan 44:47 If you're a hardcore fan. But I like the fact that we would have the prelims, some fights that you couldn't see anywhere else, but Fight Pass, and then they would have certain Fight Pass cards where you wouldn't... How many times did we watch, do fight companions-

Brendan Schaub 44:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:59 ... with the entire card? That's nasty.

Brendan Schaub 44:59 But now you can do it on ESPN.

Joe Rogan 45:01 Joe, look at that shit. That is nasty.

Brendan Schaub 45:02 But now you can do it on ESPN+, Joe.

Joe Rogan 45:04 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 45:04 Could be b- could be, but you gotta pay for that.

Eddie Bravo 45:06 Is ESPN+, is that on-

Brendan Schaub 45:07 You gotta pay for Fight Pass.

Eddie Bravo 45:08 ... is that online?

Brendan Schaub 45:08 Yeah, but you gotta pay for another thing now.

Eddie Bravo 45:10 That's online?

Brendan Schaub 45:11 Uh, it's digital. ESPN+ is a digital app. Eddie, what, what could he have done-

Joe Rogan 45:15 Sammy's get out of this.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 45:16 I think the difference is-

Brendan Schaub 45:17 What could he do to get out of this, Eddie?

Eddie Bravo 45:19 He's gotta peel that arm off his neck. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 45:21 A little late.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 45:23 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 45:23 (Laughs) That's the-

Brendan Schaub 45:23 It's way too late at this point, right, Eddie?

Eddie Bravo 45:25 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 45:25 I mean, you can hand fight, but-

Joe Rogan 45:25 Once you get to that spot, what can he do?

Eddie Bravo 45:26 He coulda got, he coulda, he... A couple things. Uh, you gotta protect your neck, obviously, and then he's gotta get up to the leg press position where, you know, he could get up on, like, it's, he's doing a leg press pushing back.

Joe Rogan 45:36 Mm-hmm.

Eddie Bravo 45:36 That'll relieve some of the pressure and then g- eventually get over to the side of the cinched body triangle-

Brendan Schaub 45:42 Joke, you know.

Eddie Bravo 45:42 ... and try to break that shit apart.

Brendan Schaub 45:44 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 45:44 Yeah, you gotta break those body triangles apart.

Joe Rogan 45:46 You gotta move fast too, yeah.

Eddie Bravo 45:47 You gotta prevent them from happening in the first place. You gotta be... Soon as someone takes your back, first thing is don't let it get too deep. And by too deep, that means body triangle, you know? Don't let-

Joe Rogan 45:56 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 45:56 ... that shit happen.

Brendan Schaub 45:57 What were you gonna say, Jamie?

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 45:58 That, uh, the Fight Pass thing, so, uh, the ESPN deal is US only it says. So that'd be for US broadcast only and Fight Pass is still for the rest of the world.

Brendan Schaub 46:06 Mm.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 46:07 So it'd be the big difference.

Eddie Bravo 46:08 Yeah. Yeah. They assured me, they-

Brendan Schaub 46:09 So they're sharing globally

Narrator 46:10 It's huge.

Eddie Bravo 46:10 ... they assured me. I didn't even ask. They said, "Dude, don't even trip."

Brendan Schaub 46:13 You didn't ask?

Eddie Bravo 46:13 I didn't even... They sent me, they sent me an email saying, "Don't worry about it. Uh, we, we're, we're not getting rid of, uh, EBI. We, we love you." It's, it's, you know, "Don't even trip."

Brendan Schaub 46:24 I'm sure I asked for a raise. Um, did... And so that means in, so in America, it's just gonna affect Fight Pass and the UFC. Everyone else, they're, they're good to go. But also, they, there's no really pay-per-views outs- internationally. They get it for free. Like in Brazil, all the, all the stuff's free. There's no pay-per-views in Brazil.

Joe Rogan 46:43 Right. They watch it on Globo.

Brendan Schaub 46:45 Yeah, they get it all free.

Eddie Bravo 46:45 It's right there.

Joe Rogan 46:47 ESPN, uh, broadcast deal that includes 10 full UFC cards or primary ESPN channels, uh, on primary USB- uh, ESPN channels, ESPN, ESPN2, along with the pre- prelims for a dozen UFC pay-per-view events. Another 20 fight cards will stream on ESPN+ totaling 30 full events annually between ESPN's broadcast and streaming outlets. All full fight cards are expected to have 12 bouts. (clears throat) Addition- additional in shoulder UFC programs such as Dana White's Contender Series, uh, a new all-access series and pre and post-fight shows and more are also included in the deal. Oh, that's interesting.

Brendan Schaub 47:26 No Tuff anymore.

Joe Rogan 47:26 So Contender.

Brendan Schaub 47:27 Tuff is done. So Conten-

Joe Rogan 47:28 Tuff is done?

Brendan Schaub 47:28 Tu- Tuff is done from my understanding. So the, the Dana White's Contender Series is gonna kinda be the focus now, which is-

Joe Rogan 47:34 You know what?

Brendan Schaub 47:34 ... which I think is good.

Joe Rogan 47:35 Better. It's better.

Brendan Schaub 47:36 Tuff is a dying breed. He, he-

Joe Rogan 47:37 Listen, man, making those dudes stay in that house for six weeks and all that crazy shit, I don't like it.

Brendan Schaub 47:41 Who are you telling?

Joe Rogan 47:41 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 47:41 So they have, so even with DC and Stipe who are, you know, light heavyweight champion of the world, heavyweight champion of the world, those, and you get the insight on those guys, even those ratings suck dick. It's just not going well.

Joe Rogan 47:51 It's-

Brendan Schaub 47:52 27 seasons deep.

Joe Rogan 47:53 It's a tired format.

Brendan Schaub 47:54 Yeah, everyone's just over it. And no more, no stars come from it anymore. No one wants to go that route.

Joe Rogan 47:58 But the Contender Series is great.

Brendan Schaub 47:59 Contender Series is good. Sean O'-

Joe Rogan 48:00 People like it.

Brendan Schaub 48:00 ... O'Malley came from-

Joe Rogan 48:01 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 48:01 ... there, you, you know, you got Greg Hardy fighting on there, you got some-

Joe Rogan 48:03 Who's that guy that knocked out Thiago Alves? Didn't he come from there as well?

Brendan Schaub 48:07 Uh.

Joe Rogan 48:08 Am I wrong about that?

Brendan Schaub 48:09 I'm not sure. The biggest one is Sean O'Malley, but then you're, you're also gonna have, uh, uh, homeboy, why am I forgetting his name? Sorry, dude. The guy with the, the, with the arm. Come on.

Joe Rogan 48:19 Nick Newell.

Brendan Schaub 48:20 Nick Newell is fighting on Contenders.

Eddie Bravo 48:21 12 fight win streak, holy shit.

Joe Rogan 48:23 (coughs)

Brendan Schaub 48:24 Nick Newell's gonna, I mean-

Joe Rogan 48:25 Nick Newell's a beast.

Brendan Schaub 48:25 ... beat the shit out of people on the Contender Series.

Joe Rogan 48:27 He's a beast.

Brendan Schaub 48:27 He should not be on there.

Joe Rogan 48:28 You don't think so?

Brendan Schaub 48:29 God, no. What do you think? He fought for-

Joe Rogan 48:30 Well-

Brendan Schaub 48:30 ... a world title against-

Joe Rogan 48:31 Right.

Brendan Schaub 48:31 ... Justin Gaethje.

Joe Rogan 48:32 But it's good to get him exposure, let people know how good he is.I guess. I think it is. Depends how many people are watching Contender Series. I'm not a- Well, there's some ... You got some real potential talent out there. I think the real thing about ... What's interesting about the Contender Series is now people you've never heard of are very good. I mean, how many people do we know that are just guys in the gym that are like, "Dude, that guy is fucking good." Yeah, and they just don't get a break. And they've never fought. They've never fought, or they've had one amateur fight or something like that, but you realize ... Like, when you see them roll with, like, really good guys, like, "Holy shit, this guy is, like, just a hair below a world-class level." There's so many guys like that now- But Nick, Nick Newell is not one of those guys. ... because he's such a popular sport. No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying. Okay. I'm saying he has the potential to face one of those guys in the Contender series. See, I, I, I almost think it, it's ... it ... that's opposite of what they should be doing, 'cause if I'm a young dude, I'm trying to get my break in and I'm on the Contender Series and you give me Nick Newell, who has 17 fights, who's 17-1. Right. Fuck, man. Why can't I fight a young guy? And this is coming from a guy who had three fights, fought Roy Nelson in the finale. That's true. I was like, "What the fuck you doing, man?"

Brendan Schaub 49:35 If you wanna blow up, you gotta, you gotta fight ... I mean ...

Joe Rogan 49:36 Yeah. That's true.

Brendan Schaub 49:37 It's not like he's ... they're fighting the, the UFC world champion, you know? You gotta get in there and prove yourself.

Joe Rogan 49:43 Nick Newell is a former ... I mean-

Brendan Schaub 49:43 Yeah, you gotta go in there and, and beat those guys.

Joe Rogan 49:45 But other guys aren't fighting that competition. I see what you're saying, I see what you're saying. It should be a lower class of, of competition.

Brendan Schaub 49:49 For someone ... Yeah, for someone, they're gonna be like, "Dude, I get fucking ... I draw Nick Newell?" Sean O'Malley was fighting guys of his same similar ...

Joe Rogan 49:54 Right.

Brendan Schaub 49:55 ... blew it up just knocking dudes out. Now, he's a star.

Joe Rogan 49:57 Well, maybe it'll be, like, one or two fights and then they'll get Nick in the UFC.

Brendan Schaub 50:00 It should be one so they're familiar with it, and then boom.

Joe Rogan 50:03 Yeah, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 50:04 But he, he's gonna be tough, man. If he, if he ... so he gets into that division, he's gonna be tough to beat. And a lot of people ... It's an inspiring story too. I don't ... I would, I would market the shit out of that, man.

Joe Rogan 50:13 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 50:13 I think they're worried that if he gets head kicked, which he's never been knocked out from a head kick, they're worried with his arm-

Joe Rogan 50:19 Right.

Brendan Schaub 50:19 ... if he can't defend it and he gets brutally knocked out-

Joe Rogan 50:21 Right.

Brendan Schaub 50:21 ... people be like, "How would you ... How can you put that guy on TV?"

Joe Rogan 50:24 Well, you gotta realize too, think about how much your arm weighs. Like, I mean, it's not an advantage by any stretch of the imagination, but the rest of him is bigger and heavier.

Brendan Schaub 50:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:33 Like, if, if ... What is ... I mean, how much do you think he's missing? 10 pounds?

Brendan Schaub 50:38 You think? No.

Joe Rogan 50:39 How much?

Brendan Schaub 50:39 How much does an average arm weigh, Jamie? That's gotta be 10 pounds. No. Eight pounds? Six pounds?

Joe Rogan 50:45 Dude, I think mine is about 100.

Brendan Schaub 50:47 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 50:47 (laughs) No, seriously, like, from his-

Brendan Schaub 50:50 Guys that grapple, there's a guy that grapples without a leg, and his upper body is that of, like, a dude that's two weight classes-

Joe Rogan 50:57 Eight pounds?

Brendan Schaub 50:57 ... above the guys he's fighting. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 50:59 Eight buil- ... What does it say, Jamie?

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 51:00 Eight pounds.

Joe Rogan 51:00 Eight pounds what? The whole arm?

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 51:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:03 But that's the whole arm.

Fight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified) 51:03 An average arm weighs about 5% of your body weight.

Joe Rogan 51:06 Okay, but that's the whole arm. See, Nick has the upper arm. He has-

Brendan Schaub 51:09 Nick has down to the elbow.

Joe Rogan 51:10 He's down, down past the elbow. He's got enough-

Brendan Schaub 51:11 He's got it right here.

Joe Rogan 51:12 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 51:12 So, so let's say his ... Yeah, it's not that big of an advantage.

Joe Rogan 51:15 No, it's not.

Brendan Schaub 51:15 There's a wr- ... There's a wrestler, a world champion who has no legs.

Joe Rogan 51:17 Oh, Jason Knight, Marquand Armakani is next. Oh, shit. (hand tapping)

Brendan Schaub 51:21 Boy, Jason Knight found some tough times. He started off super hot, then lo- lost his last two.

Joe Rogan 51:25 Well, who did he fight? He, he stepped way too far up.

Brendan Schaub 51:27 He got Lamas.

Joe Rogan 51:28 Lamas.

Brendan Schaub 51:28 Let's relax, for fuck's sakes.

Joe Rogan 51:30 That was ... Relax.

Brendan Schaub 51:30 Lamas?

Joe Rogan 51:30 That was a crazy idea. That was crazy. Lamas is world title contender, one of the-

Brendan Schaub 51:37 He's the guy no one wants to fight.

Joe Rogan 51:37 ... best in the division.

Brendan Schaub 51:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:38 Super fucking dangerous.

Brendan Schaub 51:38 He's not a huge name, he's just a fucking monster.

Joe Rogan 51:41 All across the board. Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 51:44 They're like, "Okay, you beat-"

Joe Rogan 51:46 Yeah, Lamas.

Brendan Schaub 51:46 "You beat Sean Skelley and you lost to Benitez too." Here's Ricardo Lamas.

Joe Rogan 51:50 He lost to Mowgli.

Brendan Schaub 51:51 Yeah, man. It, it's tough.

Joe Rogan 51:53 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 51:53 He got knocked out by Lamas.

Joe Rogan 51:54 He got knocked out by Lamas and then he comes back and he lost to Mowgli. (coughs) This is a tough fight.

Brendan Schaub 51:59 Performance of the night, performance of the night.

Joe Rogan 52:00 This is a tough fight, man. Armak- Marquand Armakani might be the toughest fight outta all three of those.

Brendan Schaub 52:06 More than, uh, Ricardo Lamas?

Joe Rogan 52:07 Dude, he's dangerous as fuck.

Brendan Schaub 52:08 Ricardo Lamas is ... God.

Joe Rogan 52:10 Yeah, you're right. You're right. But this Marquand Armakani is a wild motherfucker. He does a lot of crazy shit.

Brendan Schaub 52:15 Lamas just chills in the top six.

Joe Rogan 52:18 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 52:18 Not re- I mean, he's just there.

Joe Rogan 52:19 World class.

Brendan Schaub 52:20 Get some.

Joe Rogan 52:21 I'm gonna have him on with his dad.

Brendan Schaub 52:23 Ricardo Lamas?

Joe Rogan 52:24 Yeah, I've been, like, leaving him alone if he thinks I forgot. I haven't forgot. Uh, his dad is a ... like a Cuban exile. His dad left Cuba and his dad, uh-

Brendan Schaub 52:32 You're gonna have Joey in there too?

Joe Rogan 52:33 No, no, no. His dad speaks perfect.

Brendan Schaub 52:35 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 52:35 He speaks perfect English and Spanish too.

Brendan Schaub 52:37 Oh, word. Yeah, I know Ricardo does. I mean his dad.

Joe Rogan 52:38 Yeah, so I, I gotta talk to him. I just didn't wanna fuck with him before his fight. He's got a big fight, um, in Chicago.

Brendan Schaub 52:46 Makes sense.

Joe Rogan 52:46 Yeah. That is very interesting. We're looking at the commercial for Miocic. Stipe versus Daniel Cormier.

Brendan Schaub 52:53 Great fight.

Joe Rogan 52:54 Woo. Interesting. Like, tough call.

Brendan Schaub 52:56 What's the latest with Jon Jones? What's going on?

Joe Rogan 52:58 Dude, I wish I knew. I wish I knew.

Brendan Schaub 53:00 He's still waiting, he's still waiting to see what exact the suspension is, but the word is he's gonna fi- fight, you know, fairly soon.

Joe Rogan 53:08 Oh, really?

Brendan Schaub 53:08 I root so hard for that dude.

Joe Rogan 53:10 Me too, man.

Brendan Schaub 53:11 But why?

Joe Rogan 53:12 'Cause he's a beast.

Brendan Schaub 53:13 He's a bad motherfucker.

Joe Rogan 53:14 And I think in ... I think in his heart he's a very good guy.

Brendan Schaub 53:17 You think?

Joe Rogan 53:17 I really do. Yes, I really believe that.

Brendan Schaub 53:19 Even though, even though what?

Joe Rogan 53:19 He's a ... I think he's ... He does fucked up things and he makes mistakes, but I think Jon in his heart is a very good guy. I really do. I just think he just makes poor choices and he's wild and, you know? And, and one of the reasons that we love him is that wildness.

Brendan Schaub 53:32 I like that he's wild, yeah. I don't like that he hurts people, but I ... He's ... It's typically when guys act like that, I usually write them off, I'm like, "Fuck that dude." But with him, I ... He's so talented. I, I literally think he's the best of all time to grace the Octagon.

Joe Rogan 53:44 I think so too.

Brendan Schaub 53:45 I wanna see him back, and I think he comes back at heavyweight. I think he beats the brakes off Brock. I think his comeback fight is Brock, and then he fights for the heavyweight title against the winner of Stipe, DC, if DC doesn't retire. That would be amazing.

Joe Rogan 53:57 Woo, that would be amazing.

Brendan Schaub 53:57 Yeah, UFC needs that.

Joe Rogan 53:58 That's what I would do.

Brendan Schaub 53:58 They need that shit.

Joe Rogan 53:59 That's what I would do.

Brendan Schaub 54:00 Yeah, that would be-

Joe Rogan 54:00 ESPN, you like this deal? Here's 2019.

Brendan Schaub 54:03 Woo.

Joe Rogan 54:03 Get gue- (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 54:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:05 What's up? (blows raspberries) Dude, I had the weirdest-

Brendan Schaub 54:08 You like them apples.

Joe Rogan 54:09 I had the weirdest dream that, um, I was ... that I had shorts on with no underwear and I jerked off in my car.

Brendan Schaub 54:18 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 54:18 And then I ... I came all over myself and I couldn't figure out what to do. And then I had to go and meet some friends.

Brendan Schaub 54:23 Been there.

Joe Rogan 54:24 And I was outside the door and s- for some reason Kyle Kingsbury was in there.

Brendan Schaub 54:27 Okay, this is getting weird.

Joe Rogan 54:28 And I was like, "God, I got a problem."

Brendan Schaub 54:30 I like this.

Joe Rogan 54:30 I'm like, I'm covered with my own jizz and I don't have any underwear and I just have my shorts on, like. And then I woke up going, "What the fuck is wrong with me?"

Brendan Schaub 54:36 Did you have a wet dream though?

Joe Rogan 54:37 No.

Brendan Schaub 54:38 Really?

Joe Rogan 54:38 No.

Brendan Schaub 54:38 Even though you busted in your dream?

Joe Rogan 54:39 No, it was the weirdest dream of all time.

Brendan Schaub 54:41 Wow, I've never had a dream that I jacked off.

Joe Rogan 54:43 I jerked off in my car.

Brendan Schaub 54:44 You haven't?

Joe Rogan 54:44 Never.

Brendan Schaub 54:45 I've never had a jerk off dream.

Joe Rogan 54:45 Which car was it though? This is a big-

Brendan Schaub 54:47 Ever.

Joe Rogan 54:47 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 54:48 What, what car was it, Joe?

Joe Rogan 54:50 I don't know. I don't know. It's ... Have you had a dream where you jerked off before?... uh, that-

Brendan Schaub 54:54 Uh, Jack-

Joe Rogan 54:54 I've, I've had a dream where I'm having sex-

Brendan Schaub 54:56 Yeah, of course.

Joe Rogan 54:56 ... and I busted my bed.

Brendan Schaub 54:58 It's a nightmare.

Eddie Bravo 54:58 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:58 Yeah, I've, I've had those before.

Brendan Schaub 54:59 It's like, "Fuck, man."

Eddie Bravo 55:00 Wait a minute, you had a dream you had sex and you actually busted a nut?

Joe Rogan 55:02 Oh. It's called a wet dream, Eddie.

Brendan Schaub 55:04 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 55:04 But I had a dream- I thought those were a myth.

Joe Rogan 55:06 No, that shit's real.

Eddie Bravo 55:06 My dream was like, I, I had to figure out... I was going to meet some people and apparently didn't have any underwear on.

Brendan Schaub 55:10 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 55:10 I didn't have a shirt on. And I had to... And I was like... I had to crack the door open. I'm like, "Dude, I got a problem."

Brendan Schaub 55:15 Dude.

Eddie Bravo 55:15 "Like, dude, you gotta help me up." And then I woke up going, "What the fuck kind of thought is that?"

Joe Rogan 55:19 It's weird. It's weird-

Eddie Bravo 55:20 Like, where is this even coming from?

Joe Rogan 55:21 It's weird. It's rare I remember my dreams. It's weird-

Eddie Bravo 55:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:23 ... you remember yours. It's weird. I, I remember mine last... Mine last night, I was walking around, I was backstage at Bellator, I was gonna fight someone. I can't remember... And I was like, "I'm not doing this." I remember I was like pleading to him, "I'm not gonna do it."

Brendan Schaub 55:34 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 55:34 Like, "No, I'm not, I'm not fucking ready, man. I don't wanna do this. I don't need this."

Brendan Schaub 55:38 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 55:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:39 I'm like arguing with someone and they're like, "Go out there." I'm like, "No!"

Brendan Schaub 55:41 No. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:43 Yeah. That's a weird thing. That's like one of them, I gotta go back to high school and graduate things. Yeah, straight.

Eddie Bravo 55:48 You ever have those dreams?

Joe Rogan 55:49 I used to have nightmares-

Brendan Schaub 55:50 All the time.

Eddie Bravo 55:50 ... that-

Brendan Schaub 55:50 You can never remember your, your locker-

Eddie Bravo 55:52 ... like-

Brendan Schaub 55:52 ... your, the combination for your locker.

Eddie Bravo 55:54 No.

Brendan Schaub 55:54 Like, "How do I open this motherfucker?"

Joe Rogan 55:56 My, my dream-

Brendan Schaub 55:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:56 ... my nightmares were credits. I was too, too many credits shy of graduating high school and they were making me go back another year. Like, "No."

Brendan Schaub 56:04 But you graduated high school.

Joe Rogan 56:05 Yeah, I did. But you remember like, when you, when you were in high school, there was always that one dude that somehow or another fucked up and had to repeat the senior year?

Brendan Schaub 56:13 Oh, dude.

Joe Rogan 56:14 So he's 18, everybody else is 17. This fucking dude-

Brendan Schaub 56:17 Man.

Joe Rogan 56:17 ... is in high school with you.

Brendan Schaub 56:17 Has the Jeep Wrangler.

Eddie Bravo 56:19 Yeah, beard.

Joe Rogan 56:19 And he's just sad. He's just sad. He's got, losing a year of his life.

Brendan Schaub 56:22 It didn't work out for him. (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 56:24 I have this recurring nightmare that I don't think it's supposed to be a nightmare. I think it's supposed to be a great dream, but it always turns into a nightmare, because like when I used to DJ at strip clubs, I had a good time. It was always fun.

Joe Rogan 56:35 Got you. Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 56:36 Mm-hmm.

Eddie Bravo 56:36 And then I dream about it, I dream about it, and the p- the problem is, t- to be a s- strip club DJ, you got to, you got to know your CDs and the girls that are going up and you're matching up the songs with the girls. You gotta be sharp.

Brendan Schaub 56:48 'Cause they all want the different songs.

Eddie Bravo 56:50 Yeah, exactly. So in my dream, I think it's supposed to be a great dream, but I can never read the CDs-

Joe Rogan 56:55 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 56:55 ... and the manager's getting mad at me. I'm like, I'm like, "What girl's on stage?" And I'm like, I'm going... And the only CD that I remember, the only one is, is The Crystal Method, 'cause that was my go-to CD. No other CDs. I'm like, "Oh, I can always pull that one out." If-

Brendan Schaub 57:09 That was your default?

Eddie Bravo 57:10 Yeah, 'cause you know, g- you gotta change the song every two minutes and 45 seconds because every song means money for, for the club.

Brendan Schaub 57:17 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 57:17 They're all getting lap dances. So if you let a song go three and a half-

Brendan Schaub 57:20 You fucked up.

Eddie Bravo 57:20 ... or four minutes, the manager will get on your ass going, "What the fuck? It's three and a half minutes."

Brendan Schaub 57:24 That's stressful.

Eddie Bravo 57:24 It's very stressful. So if there's a girl, a girl's about s- about to go on stage and 15 seconds before she goes on stage she goes, "Skip me, I got a lap dance." And we're, "Oh."

Brendan Schaub 57:33 You fucked up, bitch.

Eddie Bravo 57:33 I'm like, "Oh, shit." I got 15 seconds to find a replacement and to, to change the music.

Joe Rogan 57:38 I gotta play this, I got a plan.

Eddie Bravo 57:39 Yeah. So in my dream, I'm having a fucking nightmare. I'm like, I can't see the girl-

Brendan Schaub 57:43 God.

Eddie Bravo 57:43 ... on stage and I can't see my CDs.

Joe Rogan 57:45 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 57:45 It sounds like a nightmare.

Eddie Bravo 57:46 Yeah, it's a total night-

Joe Rogan 57:47 Hey.

Eddie Bravo 57:47 I'm like, "Oh, my God, I'm gonna get fired. What am I gonna do now?"

Brendan Schaub 57:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:50 Hey.

Eddie Bravo 57:51 I, I never figure... And in my dream, ever, do I realize that I make money teaching jujitsu. Never. It's always, I lose my job, I'm like, "What am I gonna do now?" And then I wake up, I'm like, " (sighs) I teach jujitsu, I'm fine."

Joe Rogan 58:02 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 58:02 I'm good.

Eddie Bravo 58:04 I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:06 Hey, hey. Wait, you're the one in between the track mic. "All right, ladies and gentlemen, bring up Dandy on stage seven."

Brendan Schaub 58:11 No, but he never did it that way. He didn't have the fake strip club DJ voice.

Eddie Bravo 58:14 Oh, I... No, no, no, I did.

Joe Rogan 58:15 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 58:15 I ha- you have to have the fake-

Brendan Schaub 58:16 Of course, he-

Eddie Bravo 58:17 No, you have to have it.

Brendan Schaub 58:18 You have to.

Joe Rogan 58:19 But he didn't have is like, "Coming to the main stage, Dandy." (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 58:22 No, it was always, it was always my Simpsons DJ strip club voice.

Brendan Schaub 58:26 Let me hear it, let me hear it.

Eddie Bravo 58:27 I go, "All right, guys. Put those hands together for London."

Joe Rogan 58:30 Oh, that was yours.

Brendan Schaub 58:31 See, that's kinda cool.

Eddie Bravo 58:32 No, but you have to say it, you have to do that goofy voice to cut through. Otherwise, people can't hear you. If you just get on a mic in a strip club and you just talk like-

Brendan Schaub 58:39 "Hey, Kelly's on table seven over there."

Eddie Bravo 58:41 It wa- it won't cut through.

Brendan Schaub 58:42 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 58:43 It won't cut through.

Joe Rogan 58:43 Well, not only that, like, it has to have some drama to it, right?

Eddie Bravo 58:46 Oh.

Joe Rogan 58:46 You can't just go, "Oh, here's Monica. Yeah, she doesn't like doing this job, but here she is."

Brendan Schaub 58:50 Here's Monica, great ass. Check her out.

Eddie Bravo 58:50 No, you got to, you got to have that, that, that, that-

Joe Rogan 58:53 Here's Lindsay. She's got some unfortunate tattoos.

Eddie Bravo 58:54 ... goofy. There we go.

Joe Rogan 58:55 She's a really sweet girl.

Brendan Schaub 58:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:56 Hopefully she'll find a good guy and leave this job.

Eddie Bravo 58:58 "Okay, guys."

Brendan Schaub 58:58 Kelly's made some terrible decisions. Check her out, table three.

Joe Rogan 59:00 Yeah, well, here she is.

Eddie Bravo 59:01 (sighs) Here she is.

Joe Rogan 59:01 (laughs) That back tattoo's unfortunate, but-

Brendan Schaub 59:03 No, you gotta go all out.

Joe Rogan 59:05 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 59:05 That back, that back tattoo.

Joe Rogan 59:07 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 59:07 That back tattoo bugged me out though.

Eddie Bravo 59:07 Listen, help, help her out. She's had a rough childhood.

Brendan Schaub 59:09 That was like-

Joe Rogan 59:10 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 59:10 She's been in that... 25 foster homes. Just hook her up.

Brendan Schaub 59:14 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 59:14 Just come on.

Joe Rogan 59:14 Just hook her up.

Eddie Bravo 59:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:16 Jason Knight, tough motherfucker. That's a guy who's taken some punches.

Brendan Schaub 59:19 Remember they call him, they call him like, the Country Diaz?

Joe Rogan 59:22 Look at that fucking nose, man. That nose has taken some punches, son.

Brendan Schaub 59:26 You know his nick- his nickname The Country Diaz 'cause he's very similar to the Diaz brothers?

Joe Rogan 59:30 Mm.

Brendan Schaub 59:30 Minus the domestic abuse charges.

Joe Rogan 59:32 Well, very fucking... That domestic abuse thing is a bummer, man.

Brendan Schaub 59:35 Do we, we don't, we don't know the facts though, do we, Jimmy?

Joe Rogan 59:37 So, uh, one of N- Nick's guys sent me something that-

Brendan Schaub 59:40 His friend?

Joe Rogan 59:41 ... he was dating, yeah. Dating some crazy girl.

Brendan Schaub 59:42 Doesn't count.

Joe Rogan 59:43 Doesn't count.

Brendan Schaub 59:44 Doesn't count.

Joe Rogan 59:44 No one knows.

Brendan Schaub 59:44 When your friend goes on and he goes, "She's actually a stalker and really good, he's a really good person." Like, well, well, fuck, thanks, bro.

Joe Rogan 59:50 You're not meaning anything.

Brendan Schaub 59:50 Yeah. There's this-

Joe Rogan 59:51 Jason Knight, um, nasty off his back.

Eddie Bravo 59:53 Yeah, great guard.

Joe Rogan 59:54 Nasty guard.

Eddie Bravo 59:55 Great guard.

Joe Rogan 59:55 Quick.

Eddie Bravo 59:56 He's an Alan Belcher student and Alan Belcher's jujitsu's, uh, is pretty awesome for MMA.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:02 This kid's been talking so much shit.

Joe Rogan 1:00:03 Americani, Mr. Finland.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:06 Dude.

Joe Rogan 1:00:06 He's a bad motherfucker.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:07 He's been talking so much shit.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:07 Remember Alan Belcher versus, uh, um-

Joe Rogan 1:00:10 Tree stump?

Eddie Bravo 1:00:11 ... Rusimar Palhares?

Brendan Schaub 1:00:12 Palhares, when he beat the shit out of him? Mm-hmm.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:13 That was one of the greatest fights of all fucking time.

Joe Rogan 1:00:16 Yeah, boy, everybody was scared of that leg lock.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:18 Dude.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:18 Dude, I saw him a week la- (sighs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:19 And Alan jumped right in there.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:20 Dude.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:20 Dude, he put him... He had Rusimar in a twister, man.

Joe Rogan 1:00:22 He went into it.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:23 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:23 I saw him a week later and I was so impressed by that, I scared him. You thought he was Mike Tyson.

Joe Rogan 1:00:28 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 1:00:28 I was like, "Bro!" He's like, "Jesus Christ."

Eddie Bravo 1:00:30 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:31 I'm like, "What you did was insane, man."

Joe Rogan 1:00:32 It was insane.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:33 And Rusimar-

Brendan Schaub 1:00:34 Especially at the time.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:34 Ru- he had Rusimar in a, in a twister. He had him in the truck, almost finished him. Rusimar gets o- gets out, has Alan Belcher in all sorts of leg lock trouble. And Alan Belcher just dismantled all that shit and beat the fuck out of him.

Joe Rogan 1:00:50 He brought in Dean Lister and who else? Was it Tom DeBlass? Who- who-

Eddie Bravo 1:00:53 No, he brought in, uh, for that fight, for a month, he brought in Dean Lister and Davi Ramos, who's in the UFC.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:58 Davi Ramos.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:59 Davi Ramos is really good at leg locks too.

Brendan Schaub 1:01:01 He's a beast.

Joe Rogan 1:01:02 Davi Ramos is