The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - May 27, 2018
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Early start, time zones, and Till–Wonderboy stakes
- JRJoe Rogan
Three, two, one. Bam! We're live. We got up early as a motherfucker, ladies and gentlemen. Not really.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Nah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's 10:00 AM. Didn't we do one at like 4:00 AM before?
- BSBrendan Schaub
We did one at 5:00 AM. Remember that?
- JRJoe Rogan
What was that for? What was it-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
What was that for?
- BSBrendan Schaub
It was a, uh, it was a England card, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Was it? Something.
- BSBrendan Schaub
It was UFC Congo.
- JRJoe Rogan
Maybe it was like China or something. Congo. (laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
It might've been China.
- EBEddie Bravo
It might've been China. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It might've been China. Like, what time is it-
- BSBrendan Schaub
That makes sense.
- JRJoe Rogan
... in Africa right now? Was it yesterday?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Fuck.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yes-
- BSBrendan Schaub
I think it's... They're 12 hours ahead.
- EBEddie Bravo
Is it yest- Is it Wednesday in Africa? (laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- EBEddie Bravo
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It's definitely 1960.
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs)
- EBEddie Bravo
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) I forgot he knocked out Whittaker. We're looking at Wonderboy, uh, stopping Whittaker. That's-
- BSBrendan Schaub
At se- yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's big.
- BSBrendan Schaub
At 70.
- 1:00 – 2:51
Till misses weight: advantage, ethics, and Wonderboy’s rehydration clause
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I think Till really is a bad, bad man. There's no question about it. But he did come up real short on the weigh-in, which really bums me out. Now, I had heard that his pregnant girlfriend is in, this is what everyone's saying, is in the hospital and that she's had some serious issues and he's been going back and forth to the hospital. And he hasn't... He just didn't have a chance to cut the weight right. A lot of people claim, you know, that that's exactly what the, what the issue was. I don't know.
- BSBrendan Schaub
That drama's never good, especially your first-
- JRJoe Rogan
Not good.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... main card, main event in your hometown against Wonderboy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
There's enough pressure as it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, the Cowboy fight was a big pressure fight, but he rose to the occasion of that in a big way.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Not really though. Was it? Was it? 'Cause we didn't know who he was, really.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. But it was his opportunity to fight Cowboy.
- BSBrendan Schaub
For sure, but you're fighting a smaller guy. It's against Cowboy, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
True.
- BSBrendan Schaub
So, he goes forward and does work. Now, it's like, man, uh, I mean, there's been guys who have blown up before, but the, the hype on, uh, Till... And I'm all up on his dick, but, you know, there's a ton of hype on him.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BSBrendan Schaub
If he wins this one, it's off to the races.
- JRJoe Rogan
It is, but he's fucking four and a half pounds over championship weight. That is a lot. That's not a little. That's a lot.
- BSBrendan Schaub
It's such an advantage too.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a big advantage.
- BSBrendan Schaub
You know, fighters that have missed weight are undefeated this year. When they still fight, they're undefeated.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. It's a big advantage. I think that with Wonderboy-
- BSBrendan Schaub
It's a form of cheating.
- JRJoe Rogan
It is a for... If you do it on purpose, for sure. I think what's interesting what Wonderboy did. He said, "You gotta weigh 188 the next day."
- BSBrendan Schaub
Tight move.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Very smart.
- BSBrendan Schaub
'Cause Till's a big boy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Till's a really big boy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Very, very smart. Like, whatever advantage that he got from not cutting that extra three pounds, you know, now he's, uh... Three and a half pounds? Now he's, um, you know, lost a little bit of it, I guess.
- BSBrendan Schaub
If-
- JRJoe Rogan
Still-
- BSBrendan Schaub
If you're Wonderboy, though, you wanna drag this into later rounds. You know he's gonna come out aggressive. You know he's had some drama cutting weight and he had to cut more weight to maintain it the day-
- 2:51 – 5:00
Style breakdown: karate distance vs. pressure boxing
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah. It's all fascinating, man. It's all fascinating. We're gonna find out a lot. The other thing is too, the styles. Like, what Wonderboy does is, uh, at kicking distance. Like if you watch, like, the exchanges that he's at, he, he moves real good at the waist, like a snake, like back and forth, but he wants to keep you not even at Muay Thai kicking distance. He keeps you at karate kicking distance.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Far.
- JRJoe Rogan
Which is sideways and very far.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Far. Tough to reach.
- JRJoe Rogan
And Darren's gotta close that gap. And closing that gap is when Wonderboy's the most dangerous. And if you see some of his training footage, he seems to be concentrating on blitzing in and then... And countering and sidestepping-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Getting out.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and countering. Yeah, and getting out.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Like a matador.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
And if... If you look at Wonderboy's history, uh, whenever he fights aggressive dudes, they get fucked up.
- JRJoe Rogan
Up. Yeah. That's like his best style.
- BSBrendan Schaub
That's literally what he wants.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's his best style.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He's like, "Come on. Bring it on." And that's what Till wants to do.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. It's gonna be very interesting.
- BSBrendan Schaub
It's gonna be a scary fight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Very interesting.
- BSBrendan Schaub
But I'm telling you, man, if... Nothing in this fight would surprise me unless Darren Till just goes out there and just murks him.
- JRJoe Rogan
Murks him. Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Just no respect. Murk him. That's the only thing that would surprise me. But if Till does win, strap a fucking rocket ship to that boy's back 'cause-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... now that Bisping's retired, UK needs a face. That's him.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
That... He's the fucking guy, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Even if he loses, he could still be that. He's 25 years old. I mean-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah, but not to that extent, you know? Like, if you beat Wonderboy and you, you knock out Wonderboy-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... it's fucking... I mean-
- JRJoe Rogan
Off to the races.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... UK is... Yeah. It's on, man.
- 5:00 – 6:21
Card talk: undercard names, replacements, and matchup risk for Wonderboy
- EBEddie Bravo
Eddie Brown, what'd you think? Damn. (clears throat)
- JRJoe Rogan
There's gonna be no jiu-jitsu in this, Eddie. No jiu-jits.
- EBEddie Bravo
I, all I know about-
- BSBrendan Schaub
If that goes to the ground, we're all fucked.
- EBEddie Bravo
All I know about Darren Till is his fight with Cerrone. That's it. Um, this card, uh, you know, is, um, it's gonna be interesting.
- BSBrendan Schaub
You were gonna have-
- EBEddie Bravo
I don't really know about that one.
- BSBrendan Schaub
You were gonna have Gunnar Nelson on the card though.
- EBEddie Bravo
(laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
You were gonna have-
- EBEddie Bravo
Is Gunnar Nelson on the card?
- BSBrendan Schaub
No, he got hurt. But you're gonna have Gunnar Nelson, Neil Magny, which was a fun fight.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a great fight.
- BSBrendan Schaub
They were gonna do Gunnar Nelson and Till, but for whatever reason they decided to go with Wonderboy.
- EBEddie Bravo
Jason Knight. I know, I know about him. Did he already fight? On the undercard or is he on the main card?
- BSBrendan Schaub
No, he's, he's on the main card. He's on the main card.
- EBEddie Bravo
Oh, beautiful. Who is he fighting?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Um... Oh, my God. Uh, he has a tough fight. Very tough fight.
- NANarrator
Makhmudamir Khan.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Amirkhani. Yeah, he's a monster.
- JRJoe Rogan
Makhmuda Makhmudamir Khan.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- NANarrator
The Japanese guy?
- BSBrendan Schaub
No, no, no, no, no.
- JRJoe Rogan
No. He's, uh... Well, he lives in Finland, but, uh, what is his, uh, background?
- NANarrator
He's of Kurdistan.
- EBEddie Bravo
Who's that right now?
- JRJoe Rogan
Kurdistan it says.
- 6:21 – 8:44
Welterweight title picture: Woodley, Colby, RDA, and matchmaking politics
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, there's just... I, I feel like all the pressure's off Wonderboy right now, especially after he missed the weight. But I just... If you're Wonderboy, you... Even if you starch Till, they're not giving you a title shot. Until Woodley loses that strap, Wonderboy's not fighting for a title. 14-2-1 for Wonderboy. You gotta remember, the only loss was to Tyron Woodley and then to, um-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Matt Brown.
- JRJoe Rogan
... Matt Brown. Those two fights and one draw with Woodley. Crazy. It's a title-
- BSBrendan Schaub
So why couldn't he fight Woodley again? They fought them... (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, that's the, that's what he's asking. First of all, he's saying, "Why don't I get a shot at the interim title?" How are you giving the interim title to Colby Covington, who only beat Demian Maia, who's 40 years old, who's clearly past his prime? How is, how is that good enough to get him a shot at the interim title when I don't-
- BSBrendan Schaub
'Cause he talked a lot of shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's it.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah, there you go.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's basically it. But-
- BSBrendan Schaub
That goes a long way. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
But at the same time... Yeah, it goes a long way this day and age. But at the same time, with RDA, you know, they're not doing Colby any favors sending him down to Bra-... Oh, no, I'm sorry, it's in Chicago.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, Chicago.
- BSBrendan Schaub
In Chicago to fight RDA, which is... If you look at Colby's style, it's probably the worst matchup for him. He's a heavy, uh, underdog. So I, I'm, I'm, I'm hoping... Not hoping, I think what their plan would be RDA wins that, fights Woodley, which is a tough matchup for Woodley, and if RDA were able to, to beat Woodley, then you have Wonderboy slip in there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Or Colby wins and then you got mad shit talking with him and Woodley, and it gets very interesting.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Gets super interesting.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's... I like that fight.
- BSBrendan Schaub
It's a good fight.
- JRJoe Rogan
I like Colby and Tyron.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Uh, Colby's the underdog in every one of those fights.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. He is, yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
But RDA/Woodley, you got a barn burner here.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
That's a great matchup.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. RDA/Woodley's very interesting.
- BSBrendan Schaub
'Cause, 'cause as much as, as they... You know, I l- I love Woodley, I think his style's ridiculous, he's gonna be tough to beat. You know, I think they want some bit of turnover in there-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... with Woodley. That's what they-
- JRJoe Rogan
Man.
- BSBrendan Schaub
They want some turnover.
- 8:44 – 10:20
Injuries, PRP, and Woodley’s shoulder surgery recovery timeline
- BSBrendan Schaub
Also, I think Woodley just got through shoulder surgery. He just got his labrum repaired, which is not the worst shoulder surgery. And he just did-
- JRJoe Rogan
What does that mean exactly? Stapled the labrum back to his bone?
- BSBrendan Schaub
The labrum... No, the labrum, uh, he had some sort of a tear in it that, that fucked up in the Demian Maia fight, like, instantly. (clears throat) They stitched it back together again, but he's gone through crazy PRP and all kinds of other shit. Now, he put up a video of him hitting mitts, and it's only been about three months since the surgery, and he's hitting mitts hard. I don't know if that's an old video, though. He's sneaky. (laughs) You know, he put up this video- (laughs) He's a freak though.
- JRJoe Rogan
... of him.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He might, he might be doing, you know, getting some injections in there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but that's not... That's... He definitely got some injections.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He was talking about all the different things that he's gonna do-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... for, as far as thir-... He came on the podcast just a few weeks after shoulder surgery, and he was moving around normal and moving his hands around normal. But it, it really depends entirely on how bad the s-... The big one is the bicep tendon. When the bicep tendon gets torn off the muscle, or off the bone, and then they have to put it back in and staple it down-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Staple it. Never works, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and then they have to... It does work right now, now does. Not for pitchers. If you're a pitcher and that shit goes south-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Not good.
- JRJoe Rogan
... you're diggity-done. But for a fighter, no problem. Doesn't seem to be a problem for fighters.
- BSBrendan Schaub
But, but I bet Woodley... So you got RDA, Colby. So they'll... Obviously the winner of that will fight Woodley, uh, end of the year. Woodley will be back end of the year, no doubt.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, could very well be on the December 31st card, you know. That's a big one.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Huge card.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, you know, I mean, I think they were trying to talk about him being on the August card in LA, but that's not gonna happen.
- BSBrendan Schaub
God damn, that's soon. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a damn good card right now, right?
- BSBrendan Schaub
LA is?
- JRJoe Rogan
Who do they...
- BSBrendan Schaub
Isn't it? Who's on that LA card?
- 10:20 – 12:12
Upcoming UFC cards: LA vs. Chicago, and the CM Punk controversy
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, they were waiting for, for GSP/Ney, and obviously that's not happening, so what do you, who do you have now in LA? Let's see. Let's pull that up. Young Chang...
- BSBrendan Schaub
Did they put... Did they find a, uh, opponent for, uh, Zibit?
- JRJoe Rogan
Is this gonna be at Staples?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, they, they, they want to do Cyborg versus Nunes.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Not happening, Nunes is suspended.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is she?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
What's she hurt?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Uh, her hands from whooping that ass.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whooping that ass? Damn. Oh yeah, TJ and Cody. Woo hoo hoo!
- BSBrendan Schaub
Damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
That's LA?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Ooh, I'm very excited.
- BSBrendan Schaub
So the card's not-
- JRJoe Rogan
No, it's a little dark.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... it's a struggle street right now. What's the date?
- JRJoe Rogan
The card? Not nearly as good. August 4th. Card, card's not nearly as good as it was gonna be.
- BSBrendan Schaub
No. It was gonna be a barn burner, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... Chicago's s- s- s- stacked.
- JRJoe Rogan
S- s- s- stacked.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah, so far this card is, uh, not the greatest. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it has a lot of time.
- BSBrendan Schaub
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) It's not the greatest. But it has some time, though. It does. We're only in May.
- BSBrendan Schaub
And there's some great fights coming up.
- JRJoe Rogan
Robert Whittaker-Yeuel Romero, son!
- BSBrendan Schaub
That's gonna be crazy.
- 12:12 – 19:45
Fight companion live reaction: Spicely fight and ESPN deal begins
- BSBrendan Schaub
Spicey's good. He's about to fight now.
- EBEddie Bravo
Eric Spicely, what do you guys know about him?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know anything about him.
- EBEddie Bravo
No?
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, I've probably seen him fight before.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He's- he's- he's-
- EBEddie Bravo
He's a blackbelt in Jiu-Jitsu.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... his Jiu-Jitsu is really good.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, he's the favorite.
- EBEddie Bravo
He's really good.
- JRJoe Rogan
He has a weird body. Um, where's he from, Jake?
- EBEddie Bravo
Somewhere on the East Coast, but he- when he's in LA, he comes through my school.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's really good.
- EBEddie Bravo
He's really good at Jiu-Jitsu. He mercs everybody.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Does that, does that CM Punk, Jackson stuff bother you, Joe? Or are you used to it now?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, bothers me. Yeah. I, I don't like it. I don't mind him fighting. I think it's great that he's fighting.
- BSBrendan Schaub
In the UFC?
- JRJoe Rogan
I think it's great that he's testing himself.
- BSBrendan Schaub
In the UFC?
- JRJoe Rogan
Even if they wanted to do him in the UFC, have him on the, the, you know, the prelims, put him on FS1. You know, make it, you know, make it a, um, a fight pass thing. No, it's a problem.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I think his contract won't allow that. I think if his contract can't be pay-per-view.
- JRJoe Rogan
If it has to be pay-per-view?
- EBEddie Bravo
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I'd assume if you're CM Punk, you're that big of a draw. Maybe he was. Is he still, do you think? How many people are gonna buy that pay-per-view to watch him fight?
- BSBrendan Schaub
I don't know.
- EBEddie Bravo
Is it-
- BSBrendan Schaub
That first one, he-
- EBEddie Bravo
Sam Punk?
- 19:45 – 23:13
Translation, interviewing flow, and why podcasts beat standard promo hits
- JRJoe Rogan
It's hard, you know. When, when I had, uh, Yoel Ron, it was the best 'cause Joey was translating for Yoel. And so Yoel-
- BSBrendan Schaub
No one better than Joey to translate.
- JRJoe Rogan
... it was great, it was great. It's a fucking hard gig though.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Translating?
- JRJoe Rogan
Translating.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Nightmare.
- JRJoe Rogan
I can't imagine.
- BSBrendan Schaub
They should have Joey do it for all the fighters.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, Eddie, you speak Spanish. You, you know how hard it is.
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
I barely speak Spanish.
- JRJoe Rogan
But you speak enough, like, to talk to people.
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
Yeah. You know, we keep it light.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
F- soon as we get deep, I'm lost. It sounds like Iranian.
- BSBrendan Schaub
As soon as they start, start, they, they start real flowing fast and-
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... fast and loose.
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
Well, my grandma, when she start ... You know, I was the first of the grandkids to lose Spanish and, uh, felt really shameful because of that. But, uh, man, it was, it was ver- it was really embarrassing hanging out with my grandmother and she's going off, and I'm like, "I don't know what she's saying."
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs) "Hello."
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
I'm looking over to my aunts and my uncles.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, "Come on, man."
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
I'm like, "What did she just say?" (laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
That's hilarious.
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
It's very, very embarrassing.
- BSBrendan Schaub
It's tough when you have a translator 'cause you don't get w- in that flow.
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Like, you know when you're in a pod- there's, there's a flow and you're, like, kinda connecting going back and forth?
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
Mm-hmm.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Where if there's a translator, it just, it ... the chemistry's not there.
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
Right.
- 23:13 – 30:06
Nicknames, combat sports branding, and a detour into rat-hunting dogs
- JRJoe Rogan
B- yeah, well, it's already been taken too. Josh Neer.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah, come on, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
Old school.
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
That's a great name. Dude that knocks teeth out?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
Come on, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
What's a guy like-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Beautiful.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, Josh Neer, in my opinion-
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
That's like the janitor that will sweep you up.
- JRJoe Rogan
... is like, he's a guy that if you're a hardcore fan-
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
Janitor's a good one.
- JRJoe Rogan
... you know who Josh Neer is. And Josh Neer has been around a long time.
- BSBrendan Schaub
The new fans don't know him though, so they're like, "Ooh, dentist? That's so cool."
- JRJoe Rogan
He's still, he's still ... That's like calling yourself Hands of Stone if you're a boxer. Lay the fuck off.
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
Yeah, true.
- BSBrendan Schaub
That's Roberto Duran.
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Back the fuck up. I'm not saying that Josh Neer's in the same breath as R- Roberto Duran.
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
But still.
- BSBrendan Schaub
But, but as a fan, a fan for a long time.
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
Hardcore fan.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah, that's his nickname.
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
Someone had hands of stone though, like someone-
- JRJoe Rogan
John Lineker. John Lineker.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Someone from Canada did it.
- FFFight Companion Additional Guest (unidentified, likely a comedian friend)
What about, what about Homanick or, or Sam Stout? One of them?
- JRJoe Rogan
Sam- Sam Stout.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Sam Stout. That's right. He did it too.
- JRJoe Rogan
Good call.
- 30:06 – 42:54
GSP kick mechanics, Gracie sidekicks, and upkicks in combat jiu-jitsu
- EBEddie Bravo
Dude, GSP went off on you on the, the podcast he just did on your turning sidekick. Holy shit, talk about endorsing this, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
He was critiquing it? Oh, he said it was good.
- EBEddie Bravo
That was GSP for a half an hour is going on about his power.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EBEddie Bravo
It was incredible. No shit, George.
- JRJoe Rogan
Holy shit, that's GSP going off on Joe Rogan. Yeah, we trained a little afterwards. I s- I switched my mats out.
- EBEddie Bravo
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I had those, uh, zebra mats that are super smooth. No bueno.
- EBEddie Bravo
Too slick?
- JRJoe Rogan
Too smooth, too slick.
- EBEddie Bravo
Dude, you should do, you should do, uh, a DVD on, on throwing kicks.
- JRJoe Rogan
Now they're textured. DVD, was it? 1997?
- EBEddie Bravo
Dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
Some sort of a video.
- EBEddie Bravo
People still, you know, people still-
- JRJoe Rogan
Nah.
- EBEddie Bravo
John Danaher just put out a DVD.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, he put out a video series.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah, yeah, I bet he did.
- JRJoe Rogan
But I think it's on demand, right?
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah. I bet he did. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I bet he did. (laughs) John Danaher just living in the 90s.
- EBEddie Bravo
What do you mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
You think he got a flip phone?
- EBEddie Bravo
He's still wearing Wranglers and fucking Under Armor tops. Of course he put out a DVD. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Hey, hey. Hey, bro. He's got a strong fanny pack game. He's got a strong fanny pack game.
- EBEddie Bravo
(laughs) These are all great points. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Yeah, I would, uh, I would do that. George and I, we, we, we went over the front leg sidekick first, which is, like, the most important part of the turning sidekick. Once you get the front leg sidekick down, you understand how that works, then you turn and then it's basically you're turning and then throwing a front leg sidekick. It's just got, like, an extra push to it. But most people do the front leg sidekick wrong. Their knee is too low.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
When your knee is too low, you lose all the power.
- 42:54 – 51:17
ESPN+ vs. Fight Pass: what changes, what stays, and TUF’s decline
- BSBrendan Schaub
... do- does it, does the UFC being acquired by ESPN affect the Fight Pass and-
- EBEddie Bravo
Not at all.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh-
- BSBrendan Schaub
... EBI at all?
- EBEddie Bravo
Not at all.
- JRJoe Rogan
You gotta smash that big elbow.
- BSBrendan Schaub
'Cause are they gonna continue with the Fight Pass?
- EBEddie Bravo
Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Are you sure?
- EBEddie Bravo
Absol- as a matter of fact, the, the, the president of Fight Pass, when that deal went through, emailed me personally to let me know. He goes, "Listen, this i- this deal has nothing to do-"
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at this.
- EBEddie Bravo
"... with Fight Pass."
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at this. Look at this.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Game over, son.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, body triangle.
- BSBrendan Schaub
It's on the chin.
- JRJoe Rogan
Deep, deep, deep, deep, deep h- can you hang in there for 40 seconds? I don't think so, son.
- BSBrendan Schaub
No, he's in trouble.
- EBEddie Bravo
He's got to, he's got to cinch it up.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's tapping. He's tapping.
- EBEddie Bravo
He's about to tap. No, it's on the chin. He, he still-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Oh.
- EBEddie Bravo
Oh, he's out.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Almost broke his jaw.
- JRJoe Rogan
Damn.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Um.
- EBEddie Bravo
That's some pretty-
- BSBrendan Schaub
So they said you're good-
- JRJoe Rogan
... strong-
- 51:17 – 1:25:20
Jason Knight vs. Makwan Amirkhani: trash talk, guard threats, and judging debates
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, Jason Knight, Marquand Armakani is next. Oh, shit. (hand tapping)
- BSBrendan Schaub
Boy, Jason Knight found some tough times. He started off super hot, then lo- lost his last two.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, who did he fight? He, he stepped way too far up.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He got Lamas.
- JRJoe Rogan
Lamas.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Let's relax, for fuck's sakes.
- JRJoe Rogan
That was ... Relax.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Lamas?
- JRJoe Rogan
That was a crazy idea. That was crazy. Lamas is world title contender, one of the-
- BSBrendan Schaub
He's the guy no one wants to fight.
- JRJoe Rogan
... best in the division.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Super fucking dangerous.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He's not a huge name, he's just a fucking monster.
- JRJoe Rogan
All across the board. Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
They're like, "Okay, you beat-"
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, Lamas.
- BSBrendan Schaub
"You beat Sean Skelley and you lost to Benitez too." Here's Ricardo Lamas.
- JRJoe Rogan
He lost to Mowgli.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah, man. It, it's tough.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He got knocked out by Lamas.
- JRJoe Rogan
He got knocked out by Lamas and then he comes back and he lost to Mowgli. (coughs) This is a tough fight.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Performance of the night, performance of the night.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is a tough fight, man. Armak- Marquand Armakani might be the toughest fight outta all three of those.
- BSBrendan Schaub
More than, uh, Ricardo Lamas?
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, he's dangerous as fuck.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Ricardo Lamas is ... God.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, you're right. You're right. But this Marquand Armakani is a wild motherfucker. He does a lot of crazy shit.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Lamas just chills in the top six.
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