The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - November 10, 2018
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Fight Companion returns: Pete Best, Beatles fame, and screaming-fan conspiracies
- EBEddie Bravo
... 18 year old and shit like that, right?
- BSBrendan Schaub
His daughter?
- JRJoe Rogan
Joe. Here we go, here we go.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Three, two-
- EBEddie Bravo
(clears throat)
- JRJoe Rogan
... one. (claps) Damn, it's been a minute since we did one of these.
- BSBrendan Schaub
A hot minute.
- JRJoe Rogan
How long has it been? I can't remember.
- BSBrendan Schaub
At least six months. At least.
- EBEddie Bravo
Longer than that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Damn, God.
- BSBrendan Schaub
And Cal is just not part of the Fi... This is the fight companion these days.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow, you're kicking him out. I can't believe it. I knew it was gonna happen.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Dude, what are we gonna do?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
We gotta fall in kind of... Gotta put him out to sea, man. He's getting old, he just can't make it anymore and shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
What's that dude from The Beatles that they kicked out?
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs) Joe said that.
- JRJoe Rogan
What's his name?
- GUGuest
Before Ringo came in?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Was he the or- the original drummer?
- JRJoe Rogan
Peter or something like that?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Right? He was a drummer, right?
- GUGuest
No, yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Well, fuck Peter if you bring in Ringo.
- JRJoe Rogan
He was, uh... It was- it was so sad.
- GUGuest
Pete Best.
- JRJoe Rogan
Pete Best.
- 7:05 – 9:21
Modern pop hysteria: K-pop training factories and Babymetal’s weird brilliance
- BSBrendan Schaub
Is there anything close that n- now? There were too, we have too much stimulus, we see it too much.
- JRJoe Rogan
(exhales)
- BSBrendan Schaub
We, Instagram, we get inside their lives.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's hard, man. It's hard to find anything like that. No.
- BSBrendan Schaub
There's not (sniffs) some huge band ... There's that Korean band that's fucking huge.
- JRJoe Rogan
A Korean band?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yes, that girls freak out.
- JRJoe Rogan
What are they called?
- BSBrendan Schaub
K-pop band. I forget their name, but they're starting to ... Uh, you'll see the, they'll put them in, like, at the Grammys and stuff, and the- the entire crowd is these young teenage Korean girls going fucking ape shit for them.
- GUGuest
Whoa.
- BSBrendan Schaub
They're huge. But there's, like, the Backstreet Boys and New Kids on the Block and shit.
- GUGuest
What about Babymetal? Have you heard of them?
- JRJoe Rogan
(sniffs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
(smacks lips) What?
- GUGuest
Babymetal?
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- GUGuest
You haven't heard of Babymetal?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Never, bro.
- GUGuest
You've heard of Babymetal? Dude.
Jamie's on the ball with the young kid stuff. Always.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He's always up. Always.
- GUGuest
Dude, they're-
Hair to the ground.
- JRJoe Rogan
Always.
- GUGuest
Dude, Babymetal, Babymetal is super technical power metal, but they have little Japanese girls singing.
- BSBrendan Schaub
What?
- GUGuest
Sounds terrible.
It's insane. It's gigantic.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, my Gosh.
- GUGuest
It's gigantic.
- 9:21 – 10:05
Culture whiplash: youth trends, attention economy, and why everything feels amplified
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know anything about what young kids are doing today. Every- I have to go to Jamie, and Jamie's an intermediary because he's a grown man.
- GUGuest
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's not, he's not a boy.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He's a blue belt in, uh, to young kids.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's not a 20-year-old.
- GUGuest
How old are you?
35. I have to try to pay attention in class.
- BSBrendan Schaub
We're the same. I try too, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, he's struggling. He's str- Jamie's struggling to pay attention. (laughs)
- GUGuest
(laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
The- the young girls, you know, I was at the mall today with my son, the young girls with the cutoff jean shorts and the ass cheeks hanging out the back.
- JRJoe Rogan
Crazy.
- BSBrendan Schaub
That's ... I know that's in.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, that is crazy.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I mean, just ass out the back, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
Out the back. People are just trying so hard.
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
Just to get recognition, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a fascinating time to be a person. It really is. So interesting right now.
- BSBrendan Schaub
It's a good time.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah, it's a great time.
- 10:05 – 13:54
From pop culture to tragedy: mass shootings, motives, and cultural rot
- BSBrendan Schaub
Also a rough time.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow. It's always-
- BSBrendan Schaub
With all the mass shooters and-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the fucked up part.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... that's crazy to me. Especially in Targes- or Thousand Oaks.
- JRJoe Rogan
How was-
- BSBrendan Schaub
That was a safe-ass place.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, how was that happening?
- BSBrendan Schaub
And a Marine, a former Marine.
- GUGuest
How about a dude that was in the Las Vegas shooting-
(sniffs)
... as a survivor, was a survivor in the Thousand Oaks shooting?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- GUGuest
You know what I'm saying?
What are the fucking odds of that?
Yeah, what are the odds of that?
Same year?
Yeah. Isn't that insane?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Think about the odds of that. That's why I was talking about my girl.
- JRJoe Rogan
What?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Think about the o- but I think there- there was someone who was in the Vegas shooting who survived that who was at this one that died, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Was there?
- BSBrendan Schaub
I think so. Either way, it's dark shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ugh. Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
And they don't, have no idea about his motive or anything, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
The cops had investigated him. They investigated him, um, fairly recently because they thought he was unstable or something like that. I think his mom called the cops. Like, some- somebody called the cops on him.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they, they investigated him, talked to him and ...
- BSBrendan Schaub
That's always tough if you're FBI. Like, what do you want us to do, arrest him for being fucking weird? Like, he didn't threaten us.
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly.
- 13:54 – 15:27
Bias, propaganda, and the ethics of labeling people ‘subhuman’
- GUGuest
You know, the Nazis made propaganda films, uh, basically, um, uh, they made people believe that, uh, mentally deranged people were out on the streets attacking and killing people.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- GUGuest
And they made propaganda film so that they would okay killing someone who was, you know, mentally-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Crazy.
- GUGuest
... deranged. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You always have to be careful of people trying to label someone as someone that you don't have to consider a regular human, someone who you could disregard.
- BSBrendan Schaub
That's what they did with the Jews, right?
- GUGuest
That's what they did.
- BSBrendan Schaub
They're like, "They're rats."
- JRJoe Rogan
Done that. Done that.
- BSBrendan Schaub
"They're stealing from us. They're monsters."
- JRJoe Rogan
Sure.
- BSBrendan Schaub
That's what they do.
- JRJoe Rogan
People have done that-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... throughout history to other people. There's like a scientific term for it. I don't remember what it is.
- GUGuest
Eugenics.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Damn, I was counting on that.
- JRJoe Rogan
But no, no, no, that's not what I'm saying.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I was counting on that as well.
- GUGuest
Calum was having it.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's a scientific term for people that demonize other groups of people. And the way they look at people-
- GUGuest
Propagandas?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no. The way you look at people, like this is a person and you looked at the enemy, you would look at them like a subhuman. There's a, it's like there's a psychological-
- GUGuest
Racist.
- JRJoe Rogan
It is definitely racist.
- GUGuest
Yeah, but there's a-
- JRJoe Rogan
But there's like a, a trait that people, like, there's like a pattern that people commonly fall into with that. They dehumanize-
- GUGuest
I feel like it's a common word too.
- JRJoe Rogan
... them, the enemy.
- 15:27 – 17:41
A surprise jiu-jitsu intermission: Gio Martinez call and why technique talk loses audiences
- GUGuest
It's fucking sick. And so I'm not g- it's, no spoiler alert, but so he, he took a guy, like, he took a ton of people. He took a guy who lives in Florida who's in construction and who was super kind of racist towards immigrants, like Mexicans and Hispanics, and, uh, he sat him down (phone rings) because he thought he was the perfect one for sure. There's your phone off, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus. Goddamn it. What in the fuck happened?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Goddamn, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
Would you like to get straightened out?
- GUGuest
It's Gio right now. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
- JRJoe Rogan
Go ahead, say hi to Gio.
- GUGuest
Hey, Gio, I'm on, uh, Fight Companion right now with Joe Rogan. Say hey, hey, hey.
Okay, sorry about that. Um, did you hear about it or what?
Yeah, yeah. I was watching it as, uh, um, I watched your fight with Rosenthal. Um...
Oh, I watched that. Yeah.
Yeah? Yeah. Points, dude. That's the point system. You know what I mean?
Yeah.
That's the way they go down.
They called me a throwing punch. They gave me a point because I hit him in the head and then they took it away and gave it to him. Ten seconds left in the match.
Yeah, yeah.
While I was, while I was smashing, while I had the underhook on him. You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
Like, I'm, I'm on top half. I come back out to quarter guard and then, and then they call me for stalling. Like, like, like, I don't get that. Like, we pass on our knees all the time. Like, it's a fast guy. You know what I mean?
Yeah, so that's what it was? They called you for, they called stalling for you being in top half?
Yeah.
Is that why you lost?
Yeah.
Oh, I thought, I thought it was a judge's decision and they gave it to him based on that, uh, almost sweep.
No, there is no judge's decision.
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is super technical talk. (laughs)
- GUGuest
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
The only VMH Jiu-Jitsu more boring is hearing a guy talk about Jiu-Jitsu.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Let me call you back.
- GUGuest
It's tough. (laughs)
- 17:41 – 21:23
Tony Ferguson’s case: title-shot logic, win streak résumé, and the no-sparring debate
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- GUGuest
What's up with To- what's going on with Tony? I feel bad for him, man. I feel like they're leaving him in the fucking dust.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, they're not leaving him in the dust.
- GUGuest
No? You got some-
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no, no.
- GUGuest
Hey.
- JRJoe Rogan
No. They, they're very serious about doing something with Tony Ferguson.
- GUGuest
Oh, yeah. We'll talk about that after.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dana, Dana even said that he is most likely necked in, next in line for Khabib. Tony Ferguson, look, after the performance-
- GUGuest
He deserves it, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Fuck yeah he does. And after that performance against Pettis, like come on, man. This is, this is the time. It's the time to set him up. He's so fucking tough.
- GUGuest
Khabib wants it too, though.
- JRJoe Rogan
He does.
- GUGuest
Khabib, I think Khabib said him or GSP, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's the fight... It's the fights, man.
- GUGuest
Right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Tony hasn't lost in what d- is it 12 fights now? How many fights has he been?
- GUGuest
Something like that, 11?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a 12 or 12 fight win streak against guys like Edson Barboza, Darcysms.
- GUGuest
Kevin Lee.
- JRJoe Rogan
Kevin Lee triangles him.... Pettis. Pettis gets an injury, but before the end- Josh Thompson. Josh Thompson.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He left.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yep.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He's beat the fuck out of-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's 11, yeah. Rafael dos Anjos. Up, Lando Vannata.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Dos Anjos. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Lando fucking came at him, dude.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He's beat some tough fucking guys, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Lando came at him. He had no training camp for that one. (laughs) He didn't train for that one. Landa-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Well, Lando-
- 21:23 – 31:55
Concussions and combat sports: Dale Earnhardt Jr., brain rehab, and inflammation hacks
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, dude. Um, and having Dale Earnhardt Jr. on the other day and, and talking to him about the, the brain injuries that he sustained from driving his car and crashing.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I haven't heard it. Yeah, horrible.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, he got to, couldn't walk across the room. He had to hold onto tables and shit as, as he was walking.
- BSBrendan Schaub
How many did he say he's had? Concussion? Does he know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Wasn't it something insane like 12 over a period of four years he's had?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Holy shit, that's a lot.
- JRJoe Rogan
I want to say it was something like 12 concussions over a period of four years.
- BSBrendan Schaub
How is he now?
- JRJoe Rogan
He's great. Super nice guy. Very, very genuine guy.
- BSBrendan Schaub
But first, he said, uh, the, the link's popping up. It says at least 20.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
Fuck, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
20 concussions, man.
- BSBrendan Schaub
That's more than some fighters.
- JRJoe Rogan
God dammit, that's crazy. That is so crazy. But, you know, he's had a lot of, a lot of, like, serious problems that he had to work through, but he found a good doctor that has this good cognitive therapy for it.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Oh, really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
So he's had some kind of side effects from it?
- JRJoe Rogan
He had a bunch of side effects, but they cleared him up through these exercises. Really interesting stuff. Like, and he was basically... I made the analogy that it's like, is it like exercising your mind? Like, is it just like exercising your body? Like, there's things you can do that make things grow and make things stronger.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Keep the neurons firing?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, and make things stronger.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I heard CBD oil and fish oil-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... are real-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yep.
- BSBrendan Schaub
The, the experts that I know who are in that field in, with the brain, they always tell me f- tons of fish oil and CBD oil.
- JRJoe Rogan
Krill oil, too. That stuff's real good.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah. Stuff, anything that reduces inflammation. But, um, that-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Damn, Dale Earnhardt, that's crazy.
- 31:55 – 43:23
Comedians, fashion, and cancellation lines: D’Elia silliness to Tropic Thunder taboos
- GUGuest
Who's blowing up faster than Leo... or Theo Von?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
Theo, Theo Von's killing it. He's out there killing it.
- GUGuest
Fuck, dude.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He's a funny guy, man. He's a really funny guy.
- GUGuest
That guy could go on forever. That whole Rat King, uh, strap thing...
- BSBrendan Schaub
Beasting. Yeah.
- GUGuest
... that he's got going with the podcast.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Dude, that's funny.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's so funny, man.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He brings that belt to all his shows, you know that? Takes pictures with fans. "I'm peeing on the strap."
- JRJoe Rogan
He's so funny, man.
- BSBrendan Schaub
And he came in as a wrestler when we had Rat Party on. He came in as like the macho man.
- JRJoe Rogan
I saw that. I saw that.
- GUGuest
Yeah, he's crazy dude. He's so funny.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He's hilarious.
- JRJoe Rogan
And he's such a good guy. I'm always super happy to see Theo Von.
- BSBrendan Schaub
When we did that, uh, show in Phoenix with Ari, Big J...
- GUGuest
Oh yeah, you guys did a crazy show.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... Brian, Theo. I mean, Theo freaking destroyed, destroyed.
- GUGuest
Damn.
- BSBrendan Schaub
It was so much fun.
- GUGuest
He always destroys. Every time I see him, he destroys.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's like, um... He's not just funny, right? He's funny and you're like... You don't know anybody like him.
- BSBrendan Schaub
You've never heard... He's so unique.
- GUGuest
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Like his upbringing from New Orleans and being in therapy since he was like seven, he's such a unique dude, man.
- GUGuest
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He's really, really unique.
- 43:23 – 55:03
Gender pronouns, ‘gender fluid’ stories, and trans mental-health/suicide questions
- JRJoe Rogan
Hyper-sensitive.
- EBEddie Bravo
... is like, these days, you can't talk about shit no more, but the gender thing. Isn't there like, 60-some genders?
- JRJoe Rogan
There's supposed to be a bunch of different gender pronouns.
- EBEddie Bravo
How many? Like 60, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
But they don't, they're not saying there's 60 genders. But what they are saying is, they should have the right to dictate what pronoun that, that you use.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Instead of him or her-
- EBEddie Bravo
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
... they want like, xir or z.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Z.
- JRJoe Rogan
They make up a bunch of these wacky-
- EBEddie Bravo
But, but how many are there, really? There's man, woman.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Mm-hmm.
- EBEddie Bravo
Man, dude born as man but woman inside. Woman born woman, but man inside.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- EBEddie Bravo
And then fifth one might be a man who feels like he's man and woman. And maybe there's six or seven. How many, how many are there total?
- BSBrendan Schaub
But they don't associate with that, though. Some of them say they don't associate with that.
- EBEddie Bravo
And then there's asexual, that's seven, like one-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Pansexual.
- EBEddie Bravo
... guy who doesn't think he's a guy or a girl.
- JRJoe Rogan
But what, isn't pan you just love to fuck? Pansexual is just-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Pan, you just love whatever.
- JRJoe Rogan
... going hard.
- BSBrendan Schaub
It's all good.
- EBEddie Bravo
Oh, pan is-
- BSBrendan Schaub
You said pan or pan?
- EBEddie Bravo
Is there, is there like, Monday through Friday-
- JRJoe Rogan
P-a-m?
- EBEddie Bravo
... I'm a fucking dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- 55:03 – 1:04:56
California fires and conspiracy reflexes: evac stories, melted cars, and desalination dreams
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I just got evacuated.
- GUGuest
Right?
- JRJoe Rogan
I got evacuated from my house 'cause of the fires. Um, the fires-
- GUGuest
Yeah, you're in the thick of it.
- JRJoe Rogan
... are everywhere. They're everywhere. They're in Malibu-
- GUGuest
Especially where you're at, brother.
- JRJoe Rogan
... they're everywhere. They're, they're in, um, they evacuated like Thousand Oaks and they evacuated places in Westlake.
- GUGuest
Malibu, and-
And Sakura's out.
- JRJoe Rogan
... apparently this fire that we have here is nothing in comparison to the fire that's in Upstate.
- GUGuest
What?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's further up. Northern... The, the Northern California fire is supposed to be even more severe. They were saying the Northern California fire was moving at... What was the number? It was something insane, like 80 football fields a minute. Wasn't that what it was labeled at?
- GUGuest
Holy shit.
They, they labeled it the biggest fire in California ever.
- JRJoe Rogan
The biggest fire in California-
- GUGuest
Going on right now in Northern California?
- JRJoe Rogan
... ever. It's in Northern California.
- GUGuest
You know what's crazy is, is how damaged v- uh, cars are getting. They're like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Melting.
- GUGuest
Oh.
Uh, the cars are melting.
The videos are insanely people driving through, yeah.
There was a, I saw a video of this bus, this bus that looked like it was bombed. Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- GUGuest
... how is... How are fires doing that?
Do we know how it's starting that?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know, man.
- GUGuest
It's always the worst when it's like some fucking asshole started it.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know. I don't know if they know yet.
- GUGuest
Some prick.
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