The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - November 24, 2018
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Fight Companion kickoff: purple fits, Porsche wings, and traffic-speed supercars
- JRJoe Rogan
Here we go. Three, two, one.
- BCBryan Callen
My phone's off.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ooh. We're live, ladies and gentlemen. This is a fight companion podcast. If you've ever listened to one of these before, oftentimes we don't even watch the fights, but we're watching-
- BCBryan Callen
We talk about more things-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- BCBryan Callen
... than fights.
- JRJoe Rogan
But we're watching the fights, certainly at least some of the time.
- BCBryan Callen
There's more to life than fights, come on, that's right.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's more.
- BCBryan Callen
Did you guys decide to go... Did you call each other and say, "Let's, let's double blast with the lilac," or is that just a coincidence?
- JRJoe Rogan
This is just luck.
- BCBryan Callen
It's a happy coincidence?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
Geniuses wear purple, they say.
- JRJoe Rogan
I just decided to wear purple. I got here, he's wearing purple, and he's got a fucking purple car, so he double purpled.
- BCBryan Callen
Uh, yeah, well that car infuriates me. Now, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Grape gang.
- BCBryan Callen
... I've read that, um, lilac, and I'm gonna call that lilac, is actually a head-turner with the ladies. They're drawn to the color.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- BCBryan Callen
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Makes sense.
- BCBryan Callen
So they say if you're gonna go out on a date or you're gonna go out on the town, you might wanna throw some lilac on your body.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm. Or maybe ladies will see the lilac and think you're trying too hard.
- BCBryan Callen
Maybe, but it soothes my eye.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Like it?
- BCBryan Callen
And I can't take my eyes off your torso.
- JRJoe Rogan
But yet, but yet, you don't like his car.
- BCBryan Callen
No, his car-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Whoa.
- BCBryan Callen
Well-
- 3:24 – 5:56
Tesla Roadster vs Porsche Taycan: range, acceleration, and ‘does it look cool?’
- BSBrendan Schaub
You're gonna get that, you're gonna get that new Roadster, the one that they launched into space?
- JRJoe Rogan
That is dope as fuck.
- BSBrendan Schaub
You're gonna get that?
- JRJoe Rogan
That thing has got a 600-mile range.
- BSBrendan Schaub
It does?
- JRJoe Rogan
I've been seeing it, yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
The new Tesla?
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause it's, it's lighter and they have more room for batteries.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they're more efficient with, uh, the battery software and everything now.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Does it, does it not look so gay?
- BCBryan Callen
That's my, that's my only problem with the Tesla.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Oh, does it look cool?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, the Roadster looks dope. The Roadster looks dope. It looks like a combination of a Ferrari and a Lotus.
- BCBryan Callen
What?
- BSBrendan Schaub
You never seen it? You never seen it?
- BCBryan Callen
No.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Pull up that, uh, that Roadster.
- BCBryan Callen
My, my problem with the Tesla right now is that it, it... the battery doesn't last long enough.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, it just doesn't.
- BCBryan Callen
It just doesn't.
- BSBrendan Schaub
It just doesn't.
- BCBryan Callen
And I don't have anywhere to charge it.
- JRJoe Rogan
It'll get better though.
- BCBryan Callen
Huh?
- JRJoe Rogan
It'll get... Like, the newer ones, it'll g- every year it'll get better, better or better.
- BSBrendan Schaub
There it is. Look at that.
- BCBryan Callen
It can handle space.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's pretty dope.
- BCBryan Callen
It can handle space.
- 5:56 – 8:13
Elon Musk, big-brain thinkers, and finally noticing a fight happening
- EBEddie Bravo
How you doing, bro?
- JRJoe Rogan
Nothing weird about that. Don't be scared of that weed.
- EBEddie Bravo
Is he still trying to build that subway underneath the, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
That motherfucker's trying to build everything. He, he's ... If you, if you, like, talk to him in private, dude, I wish I could try his brain out for a day and find out what's going on in there. But it's just rattling around information constantly. Things are flying around.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And he just, just grabbing it and stuffing it into boxes and, and digging holes under the ground and shooting things to the moon. He's just, he just, he, his brain just doesn't stop.
- EBEddie Bravo
Is he single?
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, he is now.
- EBEddie Bravo
Holla.
- BCBryan Callen
When you talk-
- EBEddie Bravo
Holl- holla.
- BCBryan Callen
... when you talk to guys like that who are lateral thinkers, like you realize ... Like the guy who made me feel really dumb and, and almost like a fraud was-
- JRJoe Rogan
Brendan Schaub?
- BCBryan Callen
Not Brendan Schaub. Peter Thiel, I ta-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
I was listening to him talk.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. You met him?
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
And I went ... Yeah, I met him. I had dinner with ... at his house one night. And I, and I was like ... He was talking, and I realized that everything I say is basically an amalgam of the things I've read or heard. And this guy thinks-
- JRJoe Rogan
And he's one of the ones to write those things. Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah. He just thinks up things on his own. Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
But, you know, he started PayPal with Elon.
- EBEddie Bravo
God damn. That's how those boys got rich?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EBEddie Bravo
PayPal?
- JRJoe Rogan
(coughs) Well, it's one of the ways.
- BCBryan Callen
Well, whenever you think you're a black belt, you realize you're a white belt. Here you go, buddy. Pass that shit to me. These pussies are going out.
- EBEddie Bravo
Elon, Elon went on the podcast, when he asked him a question though, he really downloaded that data before he gave an answer.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, boy.
- BCBryan Callen
Well, he's, um-
- 8:13 – 10:44
Jingliang vs Zawada, plus Chuck vs Tito: risks, commissions, and ‘let them fight’ ethics
- JRJoe Rogan
Hey, what's the referee wearing?
- EBEddie Bravo
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
The referee's, like, wearing something around his waist.
- BCBryan Callen
A paunch?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no, no. It's like a, a, a, it's an, uh, some sort of electronics or something.
- EBEddie Bravo
Please be a fanny pack. Please be a fanny pack.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is it?
- EBEddie Bravo
Maybe he has a fat dick.
- JRJoe Rogan
Maybe he's got-
- EBEddie Bravo
'Cause he ... No, you see what I'm saying?
- JRJoe Rogan
On both sides he's carrying something. Looks like in the front maybe it is a fanny pack. Um, damn, we don't know who's fighting.
- EBEddie Bravo
Jing Liang.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jing Liang and-
- EBEddie Bravo
He is a beast. Jing Liang and Zawada.
- JRJoe Rogan
Zawada, the Chinese fighter.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yes he is.
- BCBryan Callen
Is he?
- EBEddie Bravo
(clears throat)
- BCBryan Callen
How long has Jing Liang been in UFC?
- JRJoe Rogan
Folks watching at home, 4 minutes and 37, 36, 35, 34, 33 seconds into the first round.
- EBEddie Bravo
Dude, fuck this card. If it ain't Chuck, Tito, I ain't watching.
- JRJoe Rogan
(gasps) Oh, shit.
- EBEddie Bravo
Well.
- BCBryan Callen
They're fighting tonight, right?
- EBEddie Bravo
(laughs) Oh, well,
- BSBrendan Schaub
I, I guess. (laughs)
- EBEddie Bravo
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that's fight- ... They're fighting tonight.
- BCBryan Callen
Is there an undercard for that or are they just-
- EBEddie Bravo
There's an undercard with, like, 19 fights.
- 10:44 – 15:04
Fixing weight cutting: hydration tests, more weight classes, and One FC’s model
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm a big fan of this guy who runs it in California, Andy Foster. He's a-
- EBEddie Bravo
He's a beast.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's, he's really on top of the ball. He's super proactive, he's really smart. He used to fight himself. Life-long mar- martial artist.
- EBEddie Bravo
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Full respect for the sport.... um, uh, super progressive about people's weight cuts. Doesn't want people cutting a shitload of weight in his state. He tries to monitor their hydration. He wants to get your weight out-
- BCBryan Callen
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... in advance. He's ahead of it with everything.
- BCBryan Callen
He's not a- he's not a dinosaur.
- EBEddie Bravo
He's a- no, he's ahead of it also with weight classes.
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They- they instituted more weight classes in California early on.
- BCBryan Callen
He's- he's the best, I would say.
- EBEddie Bravo
Are you guys aware of how One FC does their- their- their, um, wins?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
Yes. Yeah.
- EBEddie Bravo
What is talked about on the podcast-
- BCBryan Callen
Ben Askren.
- EBEddie Bravo
... how do they do it?
- BCBryan Callen
Ben Askren explained it.
- EBEddie Bravo
Oh, yeah. Talking about it. How- how do they do it?
- JRJoe Rogan
They don't d- there's no weight cutting, man.
- BCBryan Callen
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
There's no weight cutting. They do hydration tests.
- BCBryan Callen
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
They do hydration tests and they-
- BCBryan Callen
So, you find whatever is closest-
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly.
- BCBryan Callen
... to your natural weight, which I think makes sense.
- JRJoe Rogan
They move ... They're the- the One FC, 100% is doing it better than anybody else. 100%.
- BCBryan Callen
You know what the problem with that is, though? Some people have bodies-
- 15:04 – 21:09
Brandon Vera highlights, soccer kicks, Lethwei headbutts, and back-of-the-head reality
- JRJoe Rogan
Now, did Brandon Vera just won. Did he ... Was that in One FC?
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you see his fight?
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, Brandon Vera is a monster at heavyweight.
- BCBryan Callen
He took like two years off, dude. Still doing it.
- JRJoe Rogan
A monster at heavyweight.
- BCBryan Callen
He looks amazing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, he looks so good.
- BCBryan Callen
The guy beats no punk either.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's terrifying.
- BCBryan Callen
And he starts dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wasn't- wasn't he an Olympic, uh, Greco guy? Brandon Vera?
- BCBryan Callen
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, he was a very-
- BCBryan Callen
Not Olympic. He was high level Greco. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He was a very good wrestler. Very good wrestler. And you know what the funny thing is, is really what he's known for is his kickboxing.
- BCBryan Callen
Amazing kickboxing.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, he had a hard time in the UFC, dude, because there was this- there was this one period of time where they were in contract negotiations and I feel like he lost a lot of momentum there.
- BCBryan Callen
Well, 'cause remember he ... 'Cause, uh, he beat Frank Mir-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Frank Mir, KO'd him.
- BCBryan Callen
Frank Mir and goes ... And then goes, "I'm going to be the light heavyweight champion and heavyweight champion."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
What's up? And then there were issues.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, then there were issues.
- BCBryan Callen
And then he was like out for a while.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, he was out for a long time.
- BCBryan Callen
And then he came back and was tough, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
He- he got his nose.
- EBEddie Bravo
Came back, fucking, dude.
- 21:09 – 37:34
Ernesto Hoost nostalgia to heavyweight kickers: what translates (and what doesn’t)
- BSBrendan Schaub
Did you ever see Ernesto Hoost?
But, but it's a motion. So, so do, so do punches, though.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Like a lot of right hands, a guy will turn it, hit them right in the fucking back of the head.
Bring up, bring up Ernesto Hoost.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's nothing, there's nothing you can do.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Bring up Ernesto Hoost when he hits, uh, Maurice Green.
- JRJoe Rogan
Maurice Smith.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Uh, Maurice Smith.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Dude, he wraps his head around your fucking head and his neck just goes-
- JRJoe Rogan
He wraps, just goes around your head. Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
His neck just went...
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
That was, um, that was tough. I was good friends with Maurice when that was going on. Maurice was, was fighting when, you know, he probably shouldn't have been done, doing it anymore.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Denver's finest.
Well, Ernesto Hoost is, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
But I mean, he was fighting like pro kickboxing while he was also doing MMA.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And like, Maurice is a world class kickboxer. But I really think for you to fight a guy like Ernesto Hoost, you kind of have to be kickboxing all the time.
- BSBrendan Schaub
You gotta be all in.
Of course, of course.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
And we'll see what he does later.
Look at that. Yeah.
Fuck.
- JRJoe Rogan
And Maurice, like for real, was a super skilled world champion kickboxer. But he had been doing...
- BSBrendan Schaub
Oh, my God.
That's rough.
- 37:34 – 45:58
Broadcast location shift: China, propaganda, surveillance apps, and why free speech matters
- JRJoe Rogan
... they're, uh, they're in China. Is that where they're at? Maybe they're just giving us a chance to settle in.
- EBEddie Bravo
Isn't it weird, though?
- JRJoe Rogan
Settle in. (laughs)
- EBEddie Bravo
China's communist, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
Uh, that's not right.
- EBEddie Bravo
They're not really, they're not real. Okay.
- BCBryan Callen
They're a capitalist country.
- EBEddie Bravo
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay, okay.
- BCBryan Callen
They're a command economy, though. Like, so where a lot of the decisions are made by the Politburo, by the, by the actual government and then from there.
- EBEddie Bravo
Their flag looks like the Soviet Union flag.
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah. Well-
- JRJoe Rogan
A tad.
- BCBryan Callen
It's still, it's still-
- EBEddie Bravo
Red China, right?
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- EBEddie Bravo
It's com- it's kinda communist.
- BCBryan Callen
It was. There was a communist revolution in China.
- EBEddie Bravo
Not anymore, though.
- BCBryan Callen
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's weird-
- BCBryan Callen
And that is-
- JRJoe Rogan
... because it's not-
- BCBryan Callen
Deng Xiaopeng.
- EBEddie Bravo
... it's not a democracy.
You know, when I, I went to Beijing-
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- EBEddie Bravo
... uh, for Abu Dhabi, and in the hotels, boom, they have the TV on with the, with the propaganda in your face.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- 45:58 – 1:01:10
Social platforms controlling reach: shadowbans, bans, and the Alex Jones/Sandy Hook fallout
- JRJoe Rogan
People would just leave. Well, there is, you know what shadow banning is, right?
- BSBrendan Schaub
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's a concept of shadow banning, and I don't know if this is... Jamie would be able to speak to this better than me. Has that ever been proved that they actually do shadow ban people?
- BCBryan Callen
What's that?
- JRJoe Rogan
Or is it... It's, they, the term for it is-
- BSBrendan Schaub
You look it up Veritas.
- JRJoe Rogan
... used is that if you, say, were on Twitter and maybe you were conservative and you said a lot of, uh, rude things about liberals, that maybe they would decide that, although it doesn't violate the terms of service, what you do is, uh, makes them uncomfortable. They make a moral judgment and they decide to limit your engagement with other people.
- BCBryan Callen
That's who I'm talking about.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is somehow possible. Now, this is possible, right?
- BSBrendan Schaub
But if, but if there's a hater...
- BCBryan Callen
But yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... but is that like a hater?
- BCBryan Callen
It's like, what you're saying with the paying of, of posts too, it happens similarly there too. If, if you were a, an account that never paid-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
... and once you pay, once you give them five bucks, you're, you're, like, flagged now as an account that will pay and they change your engagement.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Right, but you, we're talking about Twitter.
- BCBryan Callen
It's, it's-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Twitter you don't pay.
- BCBryan Callen
... all, across the board. Yeah, you can pay on Twitter too.
- BSBrendan Schaub
How do you pay on Twitter? Do you pay on Twitter?
- BCBryan Callen
You don't have to, but there are brands that pay, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You have to, you can. There's an option.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Oh, okay, yeah. You can pay?
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah, promoted tweets. It's a-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Promoted, in the top tweets?
- JRJoe Rogan
What? Really?
- BCBryan Callen
It's a, the top trending topic for the last year or two is an a- a paid, it says paid or promoted.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Really?
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