Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - September 7, 2019

Brendan Schaub 0:00 (singing)

Joe Rogan 0:00 We're live?

Brendan Schaub 0:05 It should be.

Joe Rogan 0:06 Is it actually happening?

Brendan Schaub 0:07 It should be.

Joe Rogan 0:08 All right, ladies and gentlemen, Fight Companion has started. Brian Cowan's in route. Brendan Schaub's in the house. Eddie motherfucking Bravo with the new haircut.

Jamie Vernon 0:15 Yep.

Joe Rogan 0:15 I like it, dude.

Jamie Vernon 0:16 Thank you.

Joe Rogan 0:16 You're going straight of Tong Po. You should grow a ponytail on the back of that motherfucker.

Brendan Schaub 0:20 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 0:20 (laughs) Maybe, maybe.

Joe Rogan 0:22 All right, if you've never listened to this before, this is a, a podcast where we watch the fights and we talk shit. We're day drinking. It's 11:15 A.M., Eddie Bravo hasn't cracked open one yet. Here he goes.

Brendan Schaub 0:33 I'm scared, I'm scared.

Jamie Vernon 0:33 Oh, here we go. Come on, Eddie.

Brendan Schaub 0:35 I'm scared.

Joe Rogan 0:36 Especially post-Epstein, there's a lot of conspiracy theories-

Brendan Schaub 0:38 Yes.

Joe Rogan 0:38 ... just bubbling in the surface of Eddie.

Brendan Schaub 0:40 Hey, he hung himself, what's the big deal? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:41 That's what I've been telling everybody. Mairbek Taisumov's a fucking beast, and he is about to fight Diego Ferreira. And that is an excellent fight.

Brendan Schaub 0:50 Great fight.

Joe Rogan 0:50 So, uh, if you've never heard these before, we just, we talk shit while the fights are going on. We kinda commentate on the fights, but not really, let's be honest.

Brendan Schaub 1:00 Depends.

Joe Rogan 1:01 Most of it's not. This is a very good fight. Um, Mairbek Taisumov is a fucking killer.

Brendan Schaub 1:06 I'm all scared.

Joe Rogan 1:06 Diego Ferreira is a very good fighter too, so this is, uh, this is a good fight. And they're in Abu Dhabi so, you know, when you think about a guy like Taisumov who's Muslim, you gotta think, uh, there, there's a lot of, a lot of pride him fighting there, but maybe a little bit of extra pressure.

Brendan Schaub 1:22 Home field advantage, right?

Joe Rogan 1:23 So I don't know about home field advantage, man, 'cause sometimes guys don't fight well when they're fighting in front of everyone that they love and care for.

Brendan Schaub 1:30 Too much pressure and there's a lot more, uh, to worry about. Did you hear... I, I forget which journalist is cage side, but I guess the, around the cage and the mat, it's hot as fuck.

Joe Rogan 1:40 Oh, it's hot dude.

Brendan Schaub 1:41 No, but they're saying it's like unheard of hot around there. So as the rounds get going, yeah, I think, I think it could affect some of the fights. Most, most people in most teams do play better with home field advantage.

Joe Rogan 1:52 Yeah?

Brendan Schaub 1:52 It's kind of like... Yeah, it's like you have no choice. You, you, you can't, you can't, uh, uh, crumble under the pressure. It's like there's too many of your loved ones watching, you have no choice. It's like-

Joe Rogan 2:03 Yeah, but some people just fold, man.

Brendan Schaub 2:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:05 Taisumov's looking good though. Just landed a good left, uh, leg kick and a good one-two. He's, he's a solid fighter, man, but he's one of those guys that's had a hard time... I think he's had a hard time getting into the US. (clears throat) I think that's, I think he was denied visas or something like that.

Brendan Schaub 2:21 I would imagine a lot of these guys on this card did. Like Khabib's dad can't get in, but he's in his corner for this fight.

Joe Rogan 2:26 Isn't that crazy?

Brendan Schaub 2:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:28 What do they think he's gonna do? But the problem is, he's got a tie to that guy from Chechnya.

Brendan Schaub 2:33 Tuff.

Joe Rogan 2:33 Yeah. Oh, Diego Ferreira just cracked him.

Brendan Schaub 2:36 Taisumov has the same barber-

Joe Rogan 2:38 Diego Ferreira's-

Brendan Schaub 2:38 ... as Brian Callan.

Joe Rogan 2:39 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 2:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:41 Can we get the fights on this TV too, so I-

Brendan Schaub 2:43 Ferreira's good, man.

Joe Rogan 2:44 ... so I don't have to... So you have to careen?

Jamie Vernon 2:46 No, it's on, it's on Apple TV, I can't. And-

Joe Rogan 2:47 Sorry.

Jamie Vernon 2:48 ... we're live but I don't know where-

Joe Rogan 2:48 Brendan's big ass head-

Jamie Vernon 2:49 ... we're live.

Brendan Schaub 2:49 On my neck, bro.

Joe Rogan 2:50 You don't know where we're live?

Jamie Vernon 2:51 I'm looking right now. It says there's people watching, but I can't find it, so-

Joe Rogan 2:55 What?

Jamie Vernon 2:55 ... I'm looking, I'm looking.

Brendan Schaub 2:56 Are you watching it? Can you see it?

Jamie Vernon 2:58 I can see it on my thing, my...

Joe Rogan 2:59 We're having a little bit of an issue with YouTube, ladies and gentlemen. Um, when you get it to me, uh, get it, do me a favor, um, give me a link. Just, just, uh, tweet it or something and I'll retweet it. Something, something, something. When I was over there, uh, when Anderson Silva fought Demian Maia, it was hot as fuck and it was outdoors.

Brendan Schaub 3:22 I was there with you.

Joe Rogan 3:23 Oh, so you were there, that's right.

Brendan Schaub 3:24 You went to that?

Joe Rogan 3:24 That was fun.

Brendan Schaub 3:25 Got a bad idea, outside.

Joe Rogan 3:26 That was back in the day. AJ Bravo, man, we-

Brendan Schaub 3:27 We worked for the UFC, we had no choice.

Joe Rogan 3:29 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 3:29 And you had to go to... Did you have to go to all of them back then?

Joe Rogan 3:31 We were excited about it though. We were like, "Damn, this is gonna be awesome."

Jamie Vernon 3:33 We were pumped.

Joe Rogan 3:34 We were pumped. But bro, there were bugs the size of dogs flying around.

Brendan Schaub 3:36 Oh, hell no.

Joe Rogan 3:39 Like bugs I never saw before, like I didn't even know existed.

Brendan Schaub 3:42 I heard it's cool out there though. I heard it's great.

Joe Rogan 3:45 Well, Dubai is gorgeous and there's so much money.

Brendan Schaub 3:48 Henzo said it's like Las Vegas on steroids.

Joe Rogan 3:51 Oh!

Brendan Schaub 3:51 Oh!

Joe Rogan 3:51 Oh, oh, oh, he's hurt. He's hurt.

Brendan Schaub 3:52 It's over.

Joe Rogan 3:53 Ferreira's hurt.

Brendan Schaub 3:55 Ooh, really hurt.

Joe Rogan 3:55 He's really hurt. He's a smart dude though. He's, he's, he's gonna, he's gonna stay away. Look, he's popping out just to make sure that, uh, he knows it's okay. That like, uh, that he's, uh, still, still a dangerous fighter but he's in, he's in real bad, bad shape right now.

Brendan Schaub 4:11 What is this, 45 or 55?

Joe Rogan 4:13 55 I believe. I might be wrong. Jamie will find out for us. I think Taisumov's 55.

Brendan Schaub 4:21 55 for sure.

Jamie Vernon 4:22 He's a lightweight.

Brendan Schaub 4:23 Yeah, yeah, 55.

Joe Rogan 4:24 Diego though, has Diego fought at 45 before? Maybe I'm wrong. It's hard to tell, man. There's so many fighters in the UFC now, it's just, it's so difficult to keep tracks on all of them.

Brendan Schaub 4:37 Oh dude, how about Nate Mazvidal?

Joe Rogan 4:39 Whoo!

Brendan Schaub 4:39 Secure the bag, it's happening.

Joe Rogan 4:41 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 4:41 Was it November 2nd, Madison Square Garden?

Joe Rogan 4:43 Yes, November 2nd. And they're still working on Colby and Usman but-

Brendan Schaub 4:47 They're not though, 'cause-

Joe Rogan 4:48 ... they don't wanna pay. Well, they are, trust me.

Brendan Schaub 4:50 Well yeah, you would know.

Joe Rogan 4:51 But they, they don't want to pay Colby what Colby wants. Oh, we cracked him again.

Brendan Schaub 4:56 But did, but, uh, Dana said that that will be the main event, they don't wanna put a title fight above that. So then-

Joe Rogan 5:02 So...

Brendan Schaub 5:03 So then there's no way you'd make Colby-

Joe Rogan 5:04 So Mazvidal Nate Diaz is the main event?

Brendan Schaub 5:07 Uh, is that... I'm almost positive, Jim, that's what... It's five rounds, the main event.

Joe Rogan 5:10 How about... Wow.

Brendan Schaub 5:10 And, and Dana said he doesn't want to put a title fight above that.

Joe Rogan 5:13 Well, if that's the case-

Jamie Vernon 5:14 We're live, I figured it out.

Joe Rogan 5:15 They're gonna... We are live?

Jamie Vernon 5:17 There's this, they changed the fucking way it works now.

Brendan Schaub 5:19 (laughs) Okay, so is it joerogan.live?

Jamie Vernon 5:21 Let me make sure.

Brendan Schaub 5:21 Okay. And Dana's making a belt for, just for that, like the People's Champ belt.

Joe Rogan 5:26 Oh, no he's not.

Brendan Schaub 5:26 Like the street belt.

Joe Rogan 5:27 Well, well Da- Well, Nate says it's the baddest motherfucker in the game belt.

Brendan Schaub 5:31 Yeah, that's what, that's what he's making, that belt.

Joe Rogan 5:33 You can't say that. Are you gonna say that on TV?

Brendan Schaub 5:35 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 5:36 ESPN can't say baddest motherfucker in the game.

Brendan Schaub 5:38 Maybe it's just like the hardcore's belt, you know?

Joe Rogan 5:40 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 5:41 That's the, that's the fi- I can't... I'm so happy they made that fight. I didn't think it was gonna happen.

Joe Rogan 5:44 Dude, dude, I got, I got so hyped.

Brendan Schaub 5:45 I didn't think it was gonna happen.

Joe Rogan 5:46 When I saw it on my, uh, Instagram feed this morning, I threw my arms up in the air like somebody got knocked out. I was like, "Yeah!"

Brendan Schaub 5:51 When, when I saw you at the Improv, I was like, "I don't think it's gonna happen there."

Joe Rogan 5:55 (sighs)

Brendan Schaub 5:55 I was like, "I feel like there... Nate needs too much money, it's just too much-"

Joe Rogan 5:58 No, man, it's worth money.

Brendan Schaub 5:58 "... moving pieces."

Joe Rogan 5:59 It's worth money. Well, you know, Dana said something. You know, I had said that I think that Nate Diaz is one of the biggest superstars in the game, right up there with everybody.

Brendan Schaub 6:07 Easy top five.

Joe Rogan 6:08 Yes. And then Nate-And Da- I guess there was some negotiations or something, 'cause Dana refuted it. He goes, "Well, I don't think that Nate Diaz is in our long-term plans, and Nate fights once every three years." And I'm like, (snores) "Don't say that!"

Brendan Schaub 6:20 That could be him playing the game, though.

Joe Rogan 6:21 Yes, it was.

Brendan Schaub 6:22 Trying to lure Nate out.

Joe Rogan 6:23 I'm sure. I'm sure.

Brendan Schaub 6:23 Like, "Come on, Nate."

Joe Rogan 6:24 And also let him know that, "Look, we got other plans. There's other shit we're doing." I know. I just retweeted it. I tweeted a link. Oh, you did? Okay. It's not... It's a story thing. All right. I'll... Is it... What is the link?

Brendan Schaub 6:32 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 6:32 Is it in... Is it the Powerful JRE page? No.

Brendan Schaub 6:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:34 No? It's on there, but it's not that link we have, for whatever reason. Oh, great. All right, hold on a second. Young Jamie. Um, I'm just excited. But I want Usman versus, uh, versus Colby. That's the fight to make.

Brendan Schaub 6:49 Oh, 100%. That card's stacked though, even without Usman and Colby. I hope they work that out 'cause I want to see that. But Masvidal and Nate, you could just... I'll, I'll just buy that fight. I don't care who gets him.

Eddie Bravo 6:59 Those two guys are... Those two guys, not only are they the two of the baddest motherfuckers ever, but they're funny as fuck, dude.

Brendan Schaub 7:04 They're both great.

Eddie Bravo 7:04 They're funny as fuck, dude.

Joe Rogan 7:05 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 7:05 They're both great.

Joe Rogan 7:07 Super necessary.

Eddie Bravo 7:08 Yeah. All that shit. Three-piece and a soda.

Joe Rogan 7:10 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 7:10 I have a... I named a move, a transition three-piece and a soda.

Brendan Schaub 7:13 It's brilliant.

Joe Rogan 7:14 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 7:14 After him.

Brendan Schaub 7:14 It's so brilliant.

Eddie Bravo 7:15 He came down to HQ and I showed it to him, too.

Brendan Schaub 7:17 That's... He's like, "I gotta learn this. I gotta know this."

Eddie Bravo 7:18 Yeah, he's got to know it. Three-piece with the soda.

Joe Rogan 7:21 That guy is so good. He's so good, and so... He's so clever, you know? That's the... One of the best things to say about Masvidal. And the thing is, people, like, don't necessarily associate him with knockout power for some reason. But yet, the guy knocked out Yves Edwards with a head kick. He knocked out Darren Till, Cowboy Cerrone.

Brendan Schaub 7:40 Yeah, it's there.

Joe Rogan 7:41 He knocked out Ben Askren and put him in another dimension with a flying knee. World record fastest knockout. I mean, it's weird that people don't associate Masvidal with a knockout artist, because he doesn't have... He doesn't necessarily have the most power, but he's so good. He's so active.

Brendan Schaub 7:58 It's calculated.

Eddie Bravo 7:59 The way he set up that knee.

Joe Rogan 8:00 Is this the, the card? Yes.

Brendan Schaub 8:02 The... Kelvin versus, uh-

Joe Rogan 8:03 Woo!

Brendan Schaub 8:03 ... Darren Till is interesting.

Joe Rogan 8:05 Derek Lus- Lewis versus, uh, Bologni Y- Yvanov. Yvanov.

Brendan Schaub 8:11 Jonny Walker, Corey Anderson.

Joe Rogan 8:12 Blogoy. Blog... I forget every... I forget how to say that guy's name. Blagoy.

Brendan Schaub 8:15 Ivanov?

Joe Rogan 8:15 Ivanov. I think it's Ivan. Ivanov.

Brendan Schaub 8:18 He's a scary dude.

Joe Rogan 8:19 He is. That guy-

Brendan Schaub 8:20 He looked so scary. He got stabbed.

Joe Rogan 8:21 Yeah, in the heart, bro.

Brendan Schaub 8:22 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:22 He got stabbed in the heart. Corey Anderson, Johnny Walker is a good fight. But, dude, Johnny Walker's shoulder is still fucked up. I sent you that video of him working out. He's, he's-

Brendan Schaub 8:31 The mobility is not great.

Joe Rogan 8:32 Well, he's also... He's throwing punches with only one arm. It's not in the videos of him working out. And then there's other videos of him going through, uh, strength and conditioning (clears throat) , and you see what he's doing with his left arm. And I'm like, "Jesus Christ."

Brendan Schaub 8:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:46 It's like, he's not lifting any weight with his left arm.

Brendan Schaub 8:50 Yeah. Hopefully, he's all right. How about freaking, uh, Kelvin versus Till?

Joe Rogan 8:54 Ooh, that's a good fight.

Brendan Schaub 8:55 Till was like, "Nah, man, let me just go after these fucking monsters."

Joe Rogan 8:59 Middleweights. Well, he legitimately is a middleweight. I mean, he... That guy was killing himself making 170.

Brendan Schaub 9:04 I agree, but why... But coming off the, the two losses that he suffered, and then, you know, obviously, there w-

Joe Rogan 9:08 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 9:09 He had some issues. He was wilin' out a little bit in Liverpool and wherever, Bali or whatever. He ruined that hotel.

Joe Rogan 9:14 I don't care.

Brendan Schaub 9:14 So he's going thr- through something, and then they just give him freaking... Well, I think he asked for Kelvin.

Joe Rogan 9:20 I don't care.

Brendan Schaub 9:21 God. I'm a fan.

Joe Rogan 9:23 I'm a fan, too.

Brendan Schaub 9:23 He's fucking crazy.

Joe Rogan 9:24 I'm a fan of both, both those guys.

Brendan Schaub 9:26 Oh, Kelvin's so good.

Joe Rogan 9:27 But, uh-

Brendan Schaub 9:27 I, I think Kelvin's-

Joe Rogan 9:28 Kelvin versus Stylebender. Oh!

Brendan Schaub 9:29 ... was my favorite middleweight fight of all time.

Joe Rogan 9:30 Fer, Ferreira just rocked Tysemov, bro. Tysemov's in a little bit of trouble right here. Ferreira's solid, man. He's solid. Ooh!

Brendan Schaub 9:40 Ooh!

Joe Rogan 9:41 Ooh!

Brendan Schaub 9:41 Oh, Tysemov might be in trouble. Oh, my God. He's winging shots at his face too. That right hand just barely missed.

Eddie Bravo 9:46 Some guy got starched on the prelims.

Brendan Schaub 9:48 Starched.

Joe Rogan 9:48 Yeah? Dude, Tysemov is in a little trouble here right now. He's flat-footed.

Eddie Bravo 9:52 He's huffing and puffing too. Look.

Joe Rogan 9:53 Yep. Flat-footed, huffing and puffing.

Brendan Schaub 9:56 They said it's a hu- 99 degrees in there right now.

Joe Rogan 9:58 That is so ridiculous. Now, is this at an outdoor arena?

Brendan Schaub 10:01 No. I thought they built it for this. That... Right?

Joe Rogan 10:04 Uh, yeah. Are they saving money on AC? What the fuck is going on? I think it's the first one, yeah. This is the first event in the arena? I believe so. So the AC broke. Someone is gonna get hanged.

Brendan Schaub 10:11 Yep, yeah. Someone is dying.

Joe Rogan 10:14 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 10:14 So is that oil money. They don't fuck around.

Joe Rogan 10:16 Yeah. They're not fucking around. Oh, my God. Is it really 99 degrees in there?

Brendan Schaub 10:19 I saw a thing that said 99.

Joe Rogan 10:21 Dude, it is so bad. To fight at 99 degrees, you gotta be acclimated to that shit. And even then, you're still gonna have a performance hit. You're gonna definitely have a performance hit, probably similar to fighting at a very high altitude, like Mexico City-type deal.

Brendan Schaub 10:37 They don't look that sweaty though, do they?

Joe Rogan 10:39 Well, it's hard to tell, you know? I mean, we're, we're not there.

Brendan Schaub 10:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:42 They look sweaty as fuck.

Brendan Schaub 10:44 Sweaty as fuck, you think?

Joe Rogan 10:45 Sweaty.

Brendan Schaub 10:46 Yeah, looks pretty sweaty.

Joe Rogan 10:46 But, I mean, they just fought two rounds. I mean, this is... They're in the second round. Oh, there's a big mouth under the left eye of Ferreira. God, we haven't done one of these in a long time.

Brendan Schaub 10:55 It's been a hot second.

Joe Rogan 10:57 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 10:57 When was the last one we did?

Joe Rogan 10:58 (clears throat) Uh... (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 10:59 I couldn't even tell you.

Joe Rogan 10:59 I can't even tell you.

Brendan Schaub 11:00 It's been months, you know?

Joe Rogan 11:01 Callan is in his gym shorts right now filming his television show-

Eddie Bravo 11:04 But he's on the way.

Brendan Schaub 11:05 ... but, I mean-

Eddie Bravo 11:05 You think it'd be possible to do a team MMA? Like, A- Americans versus Brazilians versus Russia-

Joe Rogan 11:11 You mean ISL, bro?

Eddie Bravo 11:12 Ru- Ru- You know. But, like, for countries.

Brendan Schaub 11:14 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 11:14 Like, you take-

Brendan Schaub 11:15 Olympics.

Joe Rogan 11:16 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 11:16 Like the Olympics, but you do it in the UFC. You take the best guy at 35, best guy at 45. Like, the ultimate.

Brendan Schaub 11:22 Russian is about to run the table.

Eddie Bravo 11:24 Yeah. Who would win that? Who would win that?

Brendan Schaub 11:24 Except for heavyweight. Except for heavyweight. Light heavyweight.

Eddie Bravo 11:26 You put all... Everybody.

Joe Rogan 11:28 Dude-

Eddie Bravo 11:28 Khabib, everybody, all the best-

Joe Rogan 11:29 Russians are taking over everything. Look at what they're doing in, in, in boxing. There's so many killer Russians.

Brendan Schaub 11:35 It's Russians and black guys. Russian and black guys are owning the fight world.

Joe Rogan 11:37 (laughs) Well, Russians, like, the whole light heavyweight division. I had Andre Ward on the other day.

Brendan Schaub 11:42 He's brilliant.

Joe Rogan 11:42 He is. Every champion, all these contenders, like, 78% of them are Russian. It's crazy. There's so many killer Russians.

Eddie Bravo 11:52 (sighs)

Brendan Schaub 11:52 When we think about the champs now, I mean, it's either... Well, shit, it's either Russian or Black, right? Except for Stipe.

Joe Rogan 11:59 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 11:59 And the, the, the winning team gets a billion dollars.

Joe Rogan 12:02 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 12:04 (laughs) I dig it.

Eddie Bravo 12:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:04 Dude, Ferreira just cracked him again.

Eddie Bravo 12:05 Right?

Joe Rogan 12:05 And Tysemov's in trouble, man. He's bleeding too. He's bleeding out of his nose.

Eddie Bravo 12:09 Call it the UFC Olympics.

Joe Rogan 12:11 That would be pretty badass, dude.

Brendan Schaub 12:13 So you got Cejudo at, uh, what?

Joe Rogan 12:16 Oh-

Khabib Nurmagomedov 12:16 The next game.

Joe Rogan 12:17 A real big attempt.

Khabib Nurmagomedov 12:17 The heat index is 123.

Eddie Bravo 12:18 But he, but Cejudo was-wasn't born in Mexico.

Brendan Schaub 12:20 What'd you say, Jamie?

Eddie Bravo 12:20 The heat index is 123 in there.

Joe Rogan 12:23 Oh, my God.

Eddie Bravo 12:23 Dominick Cruz was just quoted as saying, "I'm cooking like a biscuit in here."

Joe Rogan 12:26 The heat index is 123 so it feels like 123 degrees.

Brendan Schaub 12:29 That's not gonna be good for performance.

Joe Rogan 12:30 Bro, that's ridiculous.

Brendan Schaub 12:31 Imagine a third, fourth round for Khabib and Dustin.

Eddie Bravo 12:33 Ooh.

Joe Rogan 12:35 Dude, that's ridiculous.

Eddie Bravo 12:37 Nice kick.

Brendan Schaub 12:37 I feel like-

Joe Rogan 12:37 Look at this. Look at this.

Brendan Schaub 12:37 Hey, advantage Poirier?

Joe Rogan 12:40 Um, no.

Brendan Schaub 12:41 Really? Training in Florida?

Joe Rogan 12:42 I don't think anybody has an advantage.

Brendan Schaub 12:43 Hot as fuck?

Joe Rogan 12:44 Well, they're in an air-conditioned environment. They don't train outside. I mean, he's not training two in his... I mean, maybe some place that has AC.

Brendan Schaub 12:50 In New Or- that gym in New Orleans had no AC.

Joe Rogan 12:53 Right. Maybe advantage Poirier. Yeah, maybe. I mean, I wouldn't bank on it though. I think everyone's going to be compromised. The fact that it's that hot, I'm gonna, I'm gonna text Dominick-

Brendan Schaub 13:05 See how hot it is?

Joe Rogan 13:06 ... just 'cause, just 'cause I can.

Khabib Nurmagomedov 13:07 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 13:08 See what's going on.

Brendan Schaub 13:09 How do they know that that should happen? Well, you got, you got Joshua versus Ruiz in Saudi Arabia and they're building just a, uh, fucking arena for it, just for that one fight.

Joe Rogan 13:21 I'm trying to find, I'm trying to find more on that. They built this arena just for this fight?

Brendan Schaub 13:24 No, for Joshua/Ruiz in December.

Joe Rogan 13:26 Oh, sorry. I'm just, I'm in the middle of texting

Bryan Callen 13:28 I think this is only the second event, and this one, though, maybe.

Brendan Schaub 13:30 Fuck, the po- poor Poirier. Finally get a title shot and here you go.

Joe Rogan 13:35 You might win. I don't know.

Brendan Schaub 13:36 Win this one though we're coming back to New Orleans, I would imagine.

Joe Rogan 13:38 All right. I just sent him a text. He might respond in between rounds if he has the time.

Brendan Schaub 13:45 Oh.

Joe Rogan 13:45 I love Dominick Cruz. Shout out to Dominick Cruz. Right hand to the back of the head. Ferreira looks better. And you got to think, Ferreira is training in Brazil, right? Is he in Brazil right now training? And he's from Brazil, I know. I don't know how he's training-

Brendan Schaub 13:59 Toasty.

Joe Rogan 13:59 ... but Brazil obviously gets very hot. And a lot of gyms in Brazil are open air gyms. But I, he looks, to me, better. Like, physically, the way he's moving. And Tyshimov looks like he's just trying to get his, his wind back. And he had a really good first round so he might have emptied out a little bit in that first round.

Brendan Schaub 14:19 Oh.

Joe Rogan 14:19 Dude, I like Ferreira here.

Brendan Schaub 14:21 Great body shot.

Joe Rogan 14:21 If I was walking in right now and somebody wanted to bet cash-

Brendan Schaub 14:24 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 14:24 ... I'd say Ferreira's looking good.

Brendan Schaub 14:25 All day.

Joe Rogan 14:28 He's looking real good, man. He's, he's... Oh, look at that, man. It's a... He's, he's, he's fighting at a real good pace. Oh, don't do that.

Brendan Schaub 14:33 Oh, no. No.

Joe Rogan 14:34 Don't do that. Don't do that. Ooh, elbow. Ooh, right hand. Damn. You know what I've been watching a lot lately on YouTube? I've been watching Lethwei. You know what that is?

Brendan Schaub 14:46 No.

Joe Rogan 14:46 That's that, uh, Muay Thai with, uh, no gloves and headbutts.

Brendan Schaub 14:51 Jesus Christ.

Joe Rogan 14:52 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 14:53 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 14:54 There's this guy, David Leerdam, he's like the king of Lethwei and he's, uh, uh, friends with Robin Black. Like, Robin Black's done breakdowns of his stuff and Robin has done some commentary for Lethwei. Wild shit to watch, man.

Brendan Schaub 15:06 Where do, where do they do them at?

Joe Rogan 15:08 Uh, not here. I think he's... I don't know where he lives.

Eddie Bravo 15:11 You watch that bare-knuckle boxing that's on-

Joe Rogan 15:13 Yes.

Eddie Bravo 15:14 You watched, you into that?

Joe Rogan 15:14 Just changed my opinion on whether or not MMA should be bare knuckle.

Brendan Schaub 15:17 There you go, fellas.

Eddie Bravo 15:18 Oh, really?

Brendan Schaub 15:18 I knew you'd come around.

Joe Rogan 15:19 Cuts.

Brendan Schaub 15:20 I knew you'd come around.

Joe Rogan 15:21 Cuts. The cuts are too much. C- Chris Leban's whole face is like a, a ax murderer.

Brendan Schaub 15:25 It's terrible.

Joe Rogan 15:26 Like, like he got hit in the head with a hatchet.

Brendan Schaub 15:27 Dude, you see it's Big Foot versus Gonzaga?

Joe Rogan 15:29 Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like that. Makes me sad.

Brendan Schaub 15:32 That's Big Foot on the-

Joe Rogan 15:33 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 15:33 ... acai.

Eddie Bravo 15:34 It's, it seems like, uh-

Joe Rogan 15:36 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 15:36 You know what I'm talking about.

Eddie Bravo 15:37 It seems like that bare knuckle... (laughs) What's, what's the name of the show, the event?

Brendan Schaub 15:41 Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship.

Joe Rogan 15:43 It's Bare Knuckle Fighting, right?

Brendan Schaub 15:43 BKFC or something.

Eddie Bravo 15:44 It just seems like it's blowing up, right?

Joe Rogan 15:45 It is blowing up. I mean, people are...

Brendan Schaub 15:47 Is it though?

Joe Rogan 15:47 Paul Malignaggi fighting Artem Lobov got people excited about it.

Brendan Schaub 15:50 Do you see the numbers though?

Eddie Bravo 15:51 What, what kind of, what kind of money are we paying?

Brendan Schaub 15:52 Blowing up is all relative.

Joe Rogan 15:53 What's the numbers?

Brendan Schaub 15:55 Bring that shit up, Jamie. It's not great. He said over 200 something thousand but it came out and it was, like, 11,000 or some shit.

Joe Rogan 16:02 No. Really?

Brendan Schaub 16:02 It wasn't, it was, it wasn't crazy.

Eddie Bravo 16:04 What, the pay-per-view numbers?

Brendan Schaub 16:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:05 Dude, Diego Ferreira is putting it on Tyshimov. in real trouble right now. He just got hit with a big right hand and he's not offering any offense right now. He's just trying to gather his shit and just moving away. Like, even when he's throwing punches, it's like they're not dangerous. See, like right here.

Eddie Bravo 16:20 Ferreira, Ferreira-

Brendan Schaub 16:20 Oh, he's exhausted.

Eddie Bravo 16:21 ... reminds me of Tony Ferguson here. He's just-

Joe Rogan 16:24 Yep. Chop, chop, chop.

Eddie Bravo 16:25 ... just stocking him down and just-

Joe Rogan 16:27 Dude, Tony Ferguson-

Eddie Bravo 16:27 ... still not over 11.

Joe Rogan 16:29 Tony Ferguson has changed the game in terms of, like, a guy who has the ability to put it on you and doesn't get tired. He is at the top of the fucking list. I've never seen anybody like him that can-

Eddie Bravo 16:40 And you, you know what he's gonna do? The next project is he's gonna open up a 10th planet in Big Bear.

Joe Rogan 16:44 Ooh.

Eddie Bravo 16:44 He wants to live in Big Bear.

Joe Rogan 16:46 I like it.

Eddie Bravo 16:47 He's gonna go balls deep.

Joe Rogan 16:47 But that's got to have some impact on... It says just 18,000 people downloaded it.

Brendan Schaub 16:53 They said 200,000 but then-

Joe Rogan 16:55 How do they know though?

Brendan Schaub 16:56 There's ways to count that shit.

Joe Rogan 16:57 Dave Meltzer is reporting? No, no. Meltzer is a pretty solid, um, source. Oh, we tagged him again.

Brendan Schaub 17:02 Yeah, he's legit.

Eddie Bravo 17:02 Legit journalist.

Brendan Schaub 17:03 18,000.

Joe Rogan 17:04 Ferreira, that's not a lot. 18,000, I would say I was, uh, disappointed.

Brendan Schaub 17:08 No, that Logan Paul KSI 2 that's gonna be on DAZN will get fucking seven million or some shit like that.

Joe Rogan 17:14 See, Billy Joe Saunders is on the undercard of that, which is so ridiculous. What?

Eddie Bravo 17:20 What?

Brendan Schaub 17:21 What?

Joe Rogan 17:21 What?

Brendan Schaub 17:21 Billy Joe Saunders-

Joe Rogan 17:23 Billy Joe Saunders-

Brendan Schaub 17:23 ... is fighting on the undercard of Logan Paul KSI?

Joe Rogan 17:25 Yeah, who's one of the top 20 fighters on the planet Earth.

Eddie Bravo 17:27 I would say... Is this kickboxing?

Joe Rogan 17:29 Yeah. No, boxing.

Eddie Bravo 17:30 Oh, boxing.

Brendan Schaub 17:30 It's two YouTubers who fought before.

Joe Rogan 17:33 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 17:33 Oh, wow. Well, now it's a different game, isn't it?

Joe Rogan 17:35 Dude.

Brendan Schaub 17:35 I was on board when they were just fighting each other.

Joe Rogan 17:38 Billy, Billy Joe Saunders is a fucking... He is an artist.

Eddie Bravo 17:41 Heavyweight?

Joe Rogan 17:42 No, Billy Joe is, uh, middleweight, right?

Brendan Schaub 17:44 Yeah. No, he... Yeah, he could probably... I'd love to see him against Canelo. I think he'd give Canelo some frizz.

Joe Rogan 17:47 Oh, he gives everybody-

Brendan Schaub 17:48 He's one of my favorites.

Joe Rogan 17:49 He gives everybody some problems.

Brendan Schaub 17:50 He's Tyson Fury's best friend.

Joe Rogan 17:51 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 17:51 He's hilarious.

Joe Rogan 17:52 Yes.

Brendan Schaub 17:52 They pull up a match in Ferraris all the time.

Joe Rogan 17:54 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 17:55 They're great.

Joe Rogan 17:55 He fights like him too in a lot of ways.

Brendan Schaub 17:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:57 Like, very mobile.

Brendan Schaub 17:58 He's a badass, man.

Joe Rogan 17:59 Very, very mobile.

Brendan Schaub 18:00 Um, wow.

Joe Rogan 18:02 But it's embarrassing that he's on the under-

Eddie Bravo 18:03 Oh.

Brendan Schaub 18:04 Oh.

Eddie Bravo 18:04 Another head kick.

Joe Rogan 18:05 Bro, and Tyshimov is not offering anything dangerous in return. I think he's, like, severely compromised right now. Look, here it's cracked, cracked again.

Brendan Schaub 18:14 Oh, shit.

Eddie Bravo 18:14 Who are the judges?

Joe Rogan 18:15 Um, that's a good question.

Eddie Bravo 18:17 Adelaide?

Joe Rogan 18:18 Adelaide Byrd, Sisa Peoples. Who else? (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 18:22 Uh...

Joe Rogan 18:23 I don't know. Who's like ... Who do you get excited about-

Brendan Schaub 18:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:26 ... for judges?

Brendan Schaub 18:27 Judges?

Joe Rogan 18:27 For judges?

Brendan Schaub 18:28 Adelaide Berg, 'cause I know it's gonna be chaos.

Joe Rogan 18:30 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 18:30 (laughs) Yeah, I see her, and like, "Yeah."

Joe Rogan 18:33 Doug Crosby. Like, for real, who is, um ... Oh, look at that, that's the end of the fight.

Brendan Schaub 18:39 Wow.

Joe Rogan 18:39 That's the end of the fight.

Brendan Schaub 18:39 There's no way you get a win.

Eddie Bravo 18:40 Oh, damn.

Brendan Schaub 18:41 There's no way.

Joe Rogan 18:41 Diego won that fight.

Eddie Bravo 18:42 This is, this is a ... another country. You don't know what the fuck's gonna happen here.

Brendan Schaub 18:46 No, absolutely not.

Joe Rogan 18:47 American retired.

Eddie Bravo 18:47 You don't know, you don't know.

Joe Rogan 18:47 Listen, they can't ... Th- there would be an embarrassment for them if they gave that to Tyson Mo-

Eddie Bravo 18:51 They don't give a fuck.

Joe Rogan 18:52 Tyson MoF's face got beat up. See, this is early in the fight, Tyson MoF cracked him.

Brendan Schaub 18:57 (laughs) Headbutt? Why are they showing just his highlights?

Eddie Bravo 19:00 Hey, that could sway judges.

Brendan Schaub 19:02 Why are they showing just-

Eddie Bravo 19:02 Let me tell you.

Joe Rogan 19:02 This is ... This is the end of the fight, this is the end of the fight. This is the first round, you see-

Brendan Schaub 19:06 Dude.

Joe Rogan 19:06 ... Tyson MoF coming on strong, then-

Brendan Schaub 19:07 Dude, they're just showing ... Okay, they showed that, that was nice.

Joe Rogan 19:09 No, but then as the fight wears on, then you see Diego come on strong. Listen, I work in a fucking production, I know how this works, dude.

Brendan Schaub 19:15 They show the first round and then second, third.

Joe Rogan 19:17 Yeah. The first round was all Tyson MoF, but then the second and third f- see? Now they're showing Ferreira putting it on.

Brendan Schaub 19:23 Might be a draw.

Eddie Bravo 19:24 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 19:24 They'll think him 10-8 that first round.

Joe Rogan 19:26 Dude, look at this. Crack. It's ... Ferreira's a beast, man. Look at the numbers though.

Brendan Schaub 19:31 Oh, come on, son.

Eddie Bravo 19:31 Even round one.

Joe Rogan 19:32 The numbers are crazy. Well, the thing is, like, Tyson MoF hit him with big shots in round one. That's terrible for Tyson MoF, 'cause Tyson MoF has not fought in the UFC in quite a while. And for him to, uh, come back to the UFC ... Hey, Jamie, on the other s- um, screen, can you pull up Diego Ferreira's, uh, record? He's a fucking good fighter, man. He's a good fighter, but again, the endurance thing. Nobody's like Tony. I mean, literally, like, he's like a superhuman. I've never seen anybody that can sustain an attack like Ferguson. No one. So what has he got here? He lost to Dustin, he lost to Beneil Dariush. He got ... Dustin KO'd him. Dustin's a monster. But he beat, uh, Olivier Aubin-Mercier. He beat Rustam Khabilov. Those are, those are good fighters, man.

Brendan Schaub 20:21 Yeah, really good.

Joe Rogan 20:23 Yeah, he's a, he's a bad motherfucker.

Brendan Schaub 20:25 He's a bad fighter.

Joe Rogan 20:25 If he, if he fucking loses ... Oh, he won, he won. Marabek went down and-

Brendan Schaub 20:31 Oh, did he thought he was gonna win?

Joe Rogan 20:33 No, no, he didn't think he was gonna win. I think he's praying.

Brendan Schaub 20:35 Oh, he's praying?

Joe Rogan 20:35 Yeah, I think he's praying.

Brendan Schaub 20:37 You never know.

Joe Rogan 20:37 I mean, he kind of gotta pray in front of those people.

Brendan Schaub 20:39 You never know.

Joe Rogan 20:40 Yeah. No fucking way, dude. If he won that fight, it would've been a horrible travesty of justice.

Eddie Bravo 20:45 How ... Do you remember Alessio Sakara versus Talis Leites?

Joe Rogan 20:49 No, I don't.

Eddie Bravo 20:49 You don't remember that one?

Joe Rogan 20:50 No. What happened?

Eddie Bravo 20:52 That one, uh, Sakara got the decision, but, um, Talis Leites took him down over and over, never really got hit standing, and, uh, took his back, like, two or three times.

Joe Rogan 21:06 Really?

Eddie Bravo 21:06 And Sakara escaped all the back attempts and then got back to his feet. So the replays were all Sakara's escapes, back escapes.

Joe Rogan 21:16 Hmm.

Eddie Bravo 21:16 Guess who, guess who won?

Joe Rogan 21:19 Where was it at it?

Eddie Bravo 21:19 Sakara? Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:20 Really?

Eddie Bravo 21:20 'Cause the replays influenced the judges, man.

Joe Rogan 21:23 You think so?

Eddie Bravo 21:24 I know so, dude. I was in the truck, dude, when that happened.

Brendan Schaub 21:27 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 21:28 Wow.

Eddie Bravo 21:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:28 What ... Did you say, "Hey, how come you guys aren't showing the replays of the take-downs and the back control?"

Eddie Bravo 21:33 I don't remember what happened, but-

Joe Rogan 21:35 What do you-

Brendan Schaub 21:35 Where, where was that at?

Eddie Bravo 21:36 Watch that fight, and then you'll see at the end, all the replays are Sakara escaping back control, and he won.

Joe Rogan 21:41 Was this back in the day? When was this?

Eddie Bravo 21:43 This was probably about 12 years ago.

Brendan Schaub 21:45 Oh, wow, yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:46 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 21:46 They don't know, they didn't know what the fuck they were looking at.

Joe Rogan 21:48 They were th- throwing chicken bones to decide who won.

Eddie Bravo 21:49 Watch that fight and then tell me who won. Who won?

Brendan Schaub 21:51 They don't know.

Joe Rogan 21:52 Wow, that's amazing that you brought that up. That's a crazy fight. Three rounds.

Eddie Bravo 21:55 I'll never forget that one. That's how I know. That sticks in my brain like ... The, those replays, that's w- that's why I thought it.

Brendan Schaub 22:00 Oh, that's why you said that.

Joe Rogan 22:01 Mm.

Eddie Bravo 22:01 Replay ... 'Cause the judges are sitting there going, "Oh my God, what do I do? What do I do?" So they look at the replays, and if the replays are showing one guy is getting the better of the other guy, then they go, "Okay, I'm g-" If they ... In the truck, they think he's winning, so then okay, he's winning.

Joe Rogan 22:15 You know what's crazy is that there's n-

Eddie Bravo 22:17 That's what happens, dude.

Joe Rogan 22:17 Nothing, nothing really significant has changed in terms of like the, the ... who judges fights. It's like basically the same kind of people, the same people. You don't ... You're not seeing ... Look, y- y- Ricardo Almeida is a judge in New York, which is a great thing, but you're not seeing a lot of that.

Brendan Schaub 22:35 Nothing.

Joe Rogan 22:36 You're not seeing a lot of, like, experts-

Eddie Bravo 22:37 Yeah, we need more of Ricardo Almeida type judges.

Joe Rogan 22:38 Yes, yes. Either former fighters or martial arts experts. Like, if you say that you wanna be a judge, I w- I w- I wanna see you show me how you apply d'arce chokes, show me what's the difference between an anaconda choke and a d'arce choke. Show me when a ... You know, show me how, how y- how do you do a 10-finger guillotine? Show me. Show me. If you don't know what that is, if you don't know how to do it, how are you gonna know whether or not someone's in danger when they're in the middle of a fight?

Brendan Schaub 23:04 I'd also show them fights like the one you were talking about with Sakara and Leites and be like, "How do you score this?"

Joe Rogan 23:08 Right. "Curse Blades!"

Brendan Schaub 23:09 "Who do you think's winning this?" You know?

Joe Rogan 23:10 It's gonna be a good fight.

Eddie Bravo 23:10 You guys are talking, you guys are talking all sorts of fucking common sense, dude, but that's not what it's about.

Joe Rogan 23:15 All right, Dominic Cruz-

Brendan Schaub 23:17 Yeah, you're right.

Eddie Bravo 23:17 It's not what it's about.

Brendan Schaub 23:17 You're right.

Joe Rogan 23:17 Dominic Cruz ... well, I don't wanna say that.

Brendan Schaub 23:19 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 23:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:19 Uh, but he says, "So fucking hot." Part of what he said, I will not repeat. Yeah. He says, "Fucking hot."

Eddie Bravo 23:27 You can't say fucking.

Brendan Schaub 23:27 That's ... See?

Joe Rogan 23:28 No, I can say that. I can't say what he-

Eddie Bravo 23:29 See?

Joe Rogan 23:30 What else does he say? I'll show you. You want to see it?

Eddie Bravo 23:31 Yes.

Joe Rogan 23:32 Hold on one second.

Brendan Schaub 23:33 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 23:33 Is it racist?

Joe Rogan 23:34 No, no, no.

Eddie Bravo 23:35 Oh, jeez.

Joe Rogan 23:35 No. No, Dominic's not racist at all. No.

Eddie Bravo 23:39 Okay.

Joe Rogan 23:40 Yeah. Yeah. Show that to Brendan, but tell him to shut the fuck up about it. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 23:43 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 23:43 Don't say this on your podcast.

Brendan Schaub 23:47 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:47 Yeah. I'm, uh ... We, we should all go to New York. I'm not doing, uh, a show in New York because I'm gonna do Madison Square Garden afterwards. I'm gonna do, uh-

Brendan Schaub 23:58 How far afterwards?

Eddie Bravo 23:59 What show is that?

Joe Rogan 24:00 Um, I'm gonna do Madison Square Garden in 2020, so, uh-

Eddie Bravo 24:03 Wait a minute. With Chappelle?

Joe Rogan 24:05 No, by myself.

Eddie Bravo 24:06 You're doing Madison Square Garden standup by yourself?

Brendan Schaub 24:10 Standup comedy.

Joe Rogan 24:10 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 24:10 You've done it before though, Joe.

Joe Rogan 24:12 No, I did th-

Brendan Schaub 24:12 But not the big one, right?

Joe Rogan 24:13 I did the little arena before.

Brendan Schaub 24:14 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 24:14 Wait a minute. By yourself?

Joe Rogan 24:16 Dude, I'm doing some big-ass places.

Eddie Bravo 24:17 Damn.

Joe Rogan 24:18 I'm doing some big-ass places, so-

Eddie Bravo 24:20 Damn.

Joe Rogan 24:20 ... yeah, it's fun.

Brendan Schaub 24:21 So what were you gonna say, Joe? The- that's November 2nd, so you're not gonna do one before then.

Joe Rogan 24:26 ... um, yeah, I'm not doing a show on November 2nd. You know, we should, we should do a podcast in New York. How about we all fly down to New York? I'll get you guys seats ringside, and the night before we just do a talk and shit podcast-

Brendan Schaub 24:39 A pre-

Joe Rogan 24:39 ... for the fight card.

Brendan Schaub 24:40 ... a pre-game, like there's-

Eddie Bravo 24:41 Wait a minute. There's gonna be a UFC end?

Brendan Schaub 24:43 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 24:43 You're gonna do Madison Square Garden?

Joe Rogan 24:44 No, no, no. I'm doing Madison Square Garden a couple months later.

Eddie Bravo 24:48 Okay.

Brendan Schaub 24:48 Later.

Eddie Bravo 24:48 So you're not talking about that show?

Joe Rogan 24:49 No, quite a few-

Eddie Bravo 24:50 You're talking about UFC.

Joe Rogan 24:50 Actually, quite a few months later. So it's like November is when the UFC is there. I'm not doing a show there until 2020.

Eddie Bravo 24:57 What show is, uh-

Joe Rogan 24:58 (clears throat)

Eddie Bravo 24:58 ... at Madison Square Garden? I mean, what's-

Joe Rogan 24:59 That's the big one. That's Nate Diaz, Masvidal. That's-

Eddie Bravo 25:01 Oh, that's November?

Brendan Schaub 25:03 November 2nd.

Joe Rogan 25:03 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Darren Till, uh-

Eddie Bravo 25:04 November 2nd?

Joe Rogan 25:05 ... Kelvin Gastelum. How about if we did that? We did a, a, like a fight companion preview, get drunk, talk shit in my hotel room-

Brendan Schaub 25:14 New York.

Joe Rogan 25:14 ... on November 2nd.

Eddie Bravo 25:16 See, that's-

Brendan Schaub 25:17 Damn.

Eddie Bravo 25:17 I'm free that weekend.

Joe Rogan 25:18 Oh.

Brendan Schaub 25:19 Ooh.

Eddie Bravo 25:19 I mean, if you wanna do it, we could do it. (fists thudding)

Brendan Schaub 25:22 Hold.

Joe Rogan 25:23 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 25:24 Man.

Joe Rogan 25:24 That'd be so much fun. This fight, (clears throat) Stylebender, Stylebender versus Robert Whitaker, oh my goodness that's gonna be a big fight. I can't wait for that fight.

Brendan Schaub 25:35 I'm in town, too. It's the only weekend I'm not on the road.

Joe Rogan 25:38 Ooh.

Brendan Schaub 25:39 Look at us.

Joe Rogan 25:41 Dude, I'm, I'm really excited about this. Whitaker versus Stylebender is my big fight for the year, I think.

Brendan Schaub 25:46 Fuck yes.

Joe Rogan 25:46 That's my big fight. I can't wait for that. Not ... Sorry, Adam Green Tree, not big enough to get me to fly to Australia. They tried to get me to fly over there for this one, too. I'm like, "Mm, rather be here."

Brendan Schaub 25:58 It'd be tough.

Joe Rogan 25:58 Rather be here, folks. But Stylebender versus Whitaker is the fight, man.

Brendan Schaub 26:02 Such good fight.

Joe Rogan 26:03 That's the fight. That's the fight. Just so ... Th- they're both in their prime.

Brendan Schaub 26:08 Dude, then how about, uh, Costa? Now he's ranked, what? He's two now, I think.

Joe Rogan 26:13 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 26:13 He's right there, man.

Joe Rogan 26:15 He's so scary.

Brendan Schaub 26:16 They're all scary.

Joe Rogan 26:17 He, he ate everything-

Eddie Bravo 26:17 Close as Jon Jones? Is that what you're thinking?

Joe Rogan 26:19 He ... No. He's different weight class.

Brendan Schaub 26:21 Does he?

Eddie Bravo 26:21 What he's, what? He's in his middleweight?

Joe Rogan 26:22 Costa, Costa, Costa, Stylebender and, uh-

Eddie Bravo 26:24 But you know they want, uh, they want Costa to move up, California does. California's like, "Hey, man. You're cutting too much fucking weight." California's not gonna be able to-

Brendan Schaub 26:31 It's dominating him.

Joe Rogan 26:31 He's only fought once in California, though. So if California says-

Brendan Schaub 26:34 And did he miss weight?

Joe Rogan 26:35 No, he made weight, but ... And here's the thing, they say-

Brendan Schaub 26:37 Look at that shit.

Eddie Bravo 26:38 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 26:38 They say y- you can't gain more than 15 pounds. What is that s- 56,000 seating capacity?

Brendan Schaub 26:44 40,000 sold.

Joe Rogan 26:45 40,000 tickets already sold in Australia for Whitaker versus Adesanya.

Eddie Bravo 26:49 Holy shit.

Joe Rogan 26:49 Oh my goodness. October 6th in the motherfucking ... Marvel Stadium. I like how Marvel Comic Stadium.

Eddie Bravo 26:56 Dude, Ronda-

Brendan Schaub 26:56 Wonder what it is.

Eddie Bravo 26:56 Ronda Rousey home holds the record.

Joe Rogan 26:59 Does it?

Eddie Bravo 26:59 Dude, they, they just said that.

Joe Rogan 27:01 Oh, wow.

Brendan Schaub 27:02 Yeah, that was up there most-

Eddie Bravo 27:02 The attendance record.

Brendan Schaub 27:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:03 Oh, wow.

Brendan Schaub 27:04 That was in Australia.

Eddie Bravo 27:04 Women hold the attendance record for MMA.

Joe Rogan 27:06 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 27:06 In Australia, yeah.

Eddie Bravo 27:07 That is insane.

Joe Rogan 27:07 I remember being there. That was crazy.

Eddie Bravo 27:09 You think Ronda will ever come back?

Joe Rogan 27:11 Nope.

Eddie Bravo 27:12 Never?

Joe Rogan 27:12 No, I don't think she wants to. I think Ronda's a strong woman, you know? She decides she's done, she's done. She's gonna move on. I don't think she wanted to, you know, to keep doing it. I don't ... I just think, you know-

Eddie Bravo 27:24 You know, I think, I think-

Joe Rogan 27:25 ... making money off of wrestling is better.

Eddie Bravo 27:25 ... I think when, when she came back and fought Amanda and then Amanda knocked her out, um, that must have, like, really fucked her up me- mentally. But, like, now looking back, like, Amanda's the ... she fucked up Cyborg. Like-

Brendan Schaub 27:39 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 27:39 ... she would've fucked up anybody, so I'm thinking that Ronda feels a little bit better about that Amanda fight, right?

Joe Rogan 27:44 Maybe, yeah, well she got knocked out by Holly before that, though.

Eddie Bravo 27:47 Yeah, but-

Joe Rogan 27:47 And then got starched by Amanda.

Eddie Bravo 27:49 Yeah, but still.

Joe Rogan 27:49 Yeah, yeah, but then Amanda just knocked out Holly with a fucking head kick.

Eddie Bravo 27:51 But still, even today-

Brendan Schaub 27:52 For sure.

Eddie Bravo 27:53 Even today-

Brendan Schaub 27:53 But they weren't competitive. That's the problem.

Eddie Bravo 27:54 Even today, still, even today, if the fight's on the ground, you gotta give it to Ronda. Ronda's still better than-

Joe Rogan 28:02 I don't, I don't-

Eddie Bravo 28:02 She's still better than-

Joe Rogan 28:02 Yeah, I don't know about that with Amanda.

Eddie Bravo 28:04 I mean-

Brendan Schaub 28:04 And she's a black belt.

Eddie Bravo 28:05 Amanda's a legit black belt in Brazilian Jiu-jitsu.

Brendan Schaub 28:07 Legit black belt.

Eddie Bravo 28:07 Yeah, and, and-

Brendan Schaub 28:07 Legit.

Eddie Bravo 28:08 Yeah, but-

Brendan Schaub 28:09 Amanda's the GOAT by far.

Joe Rogan 28:11 Ronda-

Eddie Bravo 28:11 Owned everybody on the ground.

Joe Rogan 28:12 With arm bars.

Eddie Bravo 28:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:13 But she's a, had a very singular attack. Arm bars, it was all arm bars on the ground.

Eddie Bravo 28:17 I'm just saying-

Brendan Schaub 28:17 And she was a fighting great competition.

Eddie Bravo 28:19 I'm just saying, I'm just saying if she just f- focused on her judo and, and her arm bars and, and, and didn't try to be a striker, um, you know?

Brendan Schaub 28:27 You think she'd be like a Khabib now?

Joe Rogan 28:29 I think if she went to American Top Team-

Eddie Bravo 28:30 You give, you take a couple losses, you lose a couple, everyone loses. You just, you lose, you come back. Everyone loses and they come back. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 28:36 Dude.

Eddie Bravo 28:36 I think Ronda would still be in the mix.

Brendan Schaub 28:38 Oh, 100%.

Joe Rogan 28:38 I think she would have to separate and move to a real camp. She would have to train with real trainers, like a, a real group of killers, grappling trainers, wrestling trainers. Make sure she's got b- the best sparring partners and more importantly-

Brendan Schaub 28:51 Striking coach.

Joe Rogan 28:52 ... a real mind, a real like, uh, like a fucking-

Brendan Schaub 28:56 Firas.

Joe Rogan 28:56 ... Firas Zahabi. Like someone like that or, you know, Mike Brown or, you know, Duke Roufus. Someone.

Brendan Schaub 29:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:03 Top of the food chain person. Matt, um, Matt Hume, right? A top of the food chain coach.

Brendan Schaub 29:09 Why would she do it, though?

Joe Rogan 29:10 Who's gonna bring ... She wouldn't.

Brendan Schaub 29:11 That's why I'm not saying it.

Joe Rogan 29:12 That's why I'm not going to.

Brendan Schaub 29:12 She's killing it in WWE.

Joe Rogan 29:13 Right.

Brendan Schaub 29:13 She wants to have kids.

Joe Rogan 29:14 She's not going to-

Brendan Schaub 29:14 She wants to travel so they're good.

Joe Rogan 29:15 Bro, this, this fuckin'-

Brendan Schaub 29:16 Why would she come back?

Joe Rogan 29:17 This was crazy shit watching Stipe just knock out DC was crazy, dude.

Brendan Schaub 29:22 Oh, is Curtis Blaydes on now?

Joe Rogan 29:24 Dude, uh, Stipe-

Eddie Bravo 29:26 How much money is Ronda making in the WWE?

Joe Rogan 29:28 Millions.

Eddie Bravo 29:29 Millions?

Brendan Schaub 29:29 Millions upon millions.

Eddie Bravo 29:29 She's making millions?

Joe Rogan 29:30 Millions of dollars.

Eddie Bravo 29:30 More money than she's ever made?

Joe Rogan 29:32 No.

Brendan Schaub 29:32 No. Well, she's, she, she's getting paid to p- pretend. So why the fuck would you risk all that and go back to UFC?

Eddie Bravo 29:39 What do you think about Cain Velasquez? You think he's gonna stick with wrestling?

Joe Rogan 29:41 Did you see him?

Brendan Schaub 29:42 He's good.

Joe Rogan 29:43 It's cr-

Brendan Schaub 29:44 I mean, he has a mask on and shit.

Eddie Bravo 29:45 Crazy flips. He, dude, he put that mask on and-

Joe Rogan 29:47 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 29:47 ... with the Mexican lucha libre fucking crew.

Joe Rogan 29:49 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 29:49 Dude, he could be huge.

Brendan Schaub 29:51 Huge in wrestling.

Joe Rogan 29:51 He said he loves it.

Eddie Bravo 29:52 He could be huge in wrestling.

Brendan Schaub 29:53 Dude, he's doing flips and shit.

Joe Rogan 29:55 Yeah, yeah.

Eddie Bravo 29:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:55 Catching people with his legs and throwing nachos.

Brendan Schaub 29:57 Nacho Libre.

Eddie Bravo 29:58 Big, too.

Joe Rogan 29:58 But he's got a fucked up back. How can he do all that shit-

Brendan Schaub 30:00 Or does he?

Joe Rogan 30:01 ... with a fucked up back? Oh, he does.

Brendan Schaub 30:02 Or does he have a fucked up, you know, he's just over it and is like, "I'm gonna go put this mask on and get paid not to get punched in the face"?

Joe Rogan 30:08 Well, I think there's a big difference between a flip that you orchestrate yourself-

Brendan Schaub 30:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:10 ... versus someone fucking picking you up and slamming you on the ground.

Brendan Schaub 30:13 In the clinch. Yeah, you're right.

Joe Rogan 30:14 And, and training and, you know, wrestling with DC.

Eddie Bravo 30:15 How, how crazy is it that people are into fake fighting?

Joe Rogan 30:19 It's weird.

Brendan Schaub 30:19 How fucking crazy is it?

Joe Rogan 30:20 They love it, though.

Eddie Bravo 30:21 They love it.

Brendan Schaub 30:21 They love it. They're passionate about it, too.

Eddie Bravo 30:22 It's crazy.

Brendan Schaub 30:22 And if you talk shit about it, they come at you in droves.

Joe Rogan 30:25 Trust me.I know.

Bryan Callen 30:27 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 30:27 Trust me, I know.

Joe Rogan 30:28 Trust me. But look, Tony Hinchcliffe, who I love to death, that fucking kid lives for it. He lives for fake fresh-

Bryan Callen 30:33 Yeah, Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumpkins.

Joe Rogan 30:35 Loves it.

Bryan Callen 30:35 He's all in it.

Joe Rogan 30:36 He owns one of the organizations.

Brendan Schaub 30:37 Yeah.

Bryan Callen 30:38 People own this one.

Joe Rogan 30:38 Billy loves one.

Brendan Schaub 30:39 Yeah.

Bryan Callen 30:40 They might as well make movies and TV shows while they're at it, right?

Joe Rogan 30:44 No, they wanna see it live. They wanna see like a live play. It's like a live, wild, crazy play.

Brendan Schaub 30:49 I respect it.

Joe Rogan 30:50 Look, it's like-

Brendan Schaub 30:51 They, they grind. They grind.

Joe Rogan 30:52 It's-

Brendan Schaub 30:52 It's hard. It falls into other shit like video games, cartoons, comic books, nerd culture. It's like stuff that you enjoyed when you were a kid and these guys embrace it deep into adulthood.

Bryan Callen 31:02 They hung onto it.

Joe Rogan 31:03 It's fun.

Brendan Schaub 31:03 It's fun for them. I get it.

Bryan Callen 31:05 I don't mind it.

Joe Rogan 31:05 They always, they always like s- compare it to Game of Thrones.

Brendan Schaub 31:08 Do you watch it?

Jamie Vernon 31:08 They do make movies. I don't know if you knew that.

Joe Rogan 31:10 That's a no.

Brendan Schaub 31:10 What?

Jamie Vernon 31:10 These are all WWE movies. (laughs)

Bryan Callen 31:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:13 Wait a minute, wait a minute. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. These are WWE movies?

Jamie Vernon 31:18 Yeah, man.

Joe Rogan 31:18 They make movies?

Brendan Schaub 31:19 No, no these are wrestlers who are starring in movies.

Joe Rogan 31:21 No, no.

Jamie Vernon 31:22 Correct, but it's, they're studios.

Joe Rogan 31:22 No look, WWE Studios.

Brendan Schaub 31:23 Oh shit, I didn't know that.

Jamie Vernon 31:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 31:25 Oh, damn. They are making movies.

Jamie Vernon 31:27 Oh, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 31:27 Oh, wow. Okay.

Joe Rogan 31:29 Has anybody heard of any of these movies?

Bryan Callen 31:31 (laughs) Hey, watch your mouth.

Joe Rogan 31:33 No, I'm asking.

Brendan Schaub 31:33 Uh, I've, I've heard of The Marine.

Joe Rogan 31:35 I've heard of The Marine.

Jamie Vernon 31:36 A couple of them have made it out there.

Brendan Schaub 31:36 Oh, Fighting with Family with The Rock I heard's decent.

Joe Rogan 31:39 How dare you? Okay.

Jamie Vernon 31:43 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 31:43 Okay. How dare you? Jingle All The Way 2: Santa's Little Helper.

Joe Rogan 31:46 I guess the Arnold sucked this dick.

Brendan Schaub 31:48 Change this just right now. I don't wanna look at this.

Jamie Vernon 31:50 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 31:50 Get that off the air.

Bryan Callen 31:52 Dude, those were-

Brendan Schaub 31:52 (laughs)

Bryan Callen 31:52 Hey those... Hey, real quick though, those were terrible movies. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:56 They might've been. You know, you never know.

Bryan Callen 31:58 I mean, c'mon dude. Those were awful movies.

Jamie Vernon 31:59 We know.

Brendan Schaub 31:59 Phil, we gotta do a Fight Club, watch one of those movies.

Jamie Vernon 32:02 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 32:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:05 We gotta do a Fight... That and all of Tyler Perry's movies.

Brendan Schaub 32:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:08 We'll watch Hyena-

Bryan Callen 32:08 We should play as a woman.

Joe Rogan 32:10 Yeah. Jesus Christ, he's done like 18 of those.

Jamie Vernon 32:12 Bro, we get it. We get it.

Joe Rogan 32:14 Yeah. Yeah, you're good at playing a woman.

Brendan Schaub 32:15 Does he dress like a woman in real life?

Joe Rogan 32:17 You'd have to ask him.

Bryan Callen 32:19 Uh, gun to the head, yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:24 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 32:27 (laughs)

Bryan Callen 32:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:27 Gun to the head one time he's donned pumps. At least one time. If I had to bet everything I have, put all in, on his own, has he ever put pumps on?

Brendan Schaub 32:38 Does he have a size 14 pump in his trunk?

Joe Rogan 32:41 Yeah. (laughs)

Bryan Callen 32:42 Hey, listen. You gotta r- you gotta respect, respect transgenders 1000%, you know what I mean? You got to. But I think like after 60-

Brendan Schaub 32:51 You got to?

Bryan Callen 32:52 ... like after 60-

Brendan Schaub 32:53 You should stop?

Bryan Callen 32:55 If you keep wearing makeup and wigs after 60-

Brendan Schaub 33:00 You should.

Joe Rogan 33:00 What about for ladies? Like Christie Brinkley's over 60.

Bryan Callen 33:04 If you're... Hey, listen. But if you're-

Joe Rogan 33:04 She's still wearing makeup.

Bryan Callen 33:05 But if you're-

Jamie Vernon 33:06 How old is Cindy Crawford?

Bryan Callen 33:07 If you're a transgender and you're, uh, over 60, you should probably dress like old ladies, right? In with the, with the gray wig. But the-

Joe Rogan 33:16 Not if you got it though.

Bryan Callen 33:17 But again, there's different ladies. Like s- look Christie Brinkley. Have you seen what she looks like now? I think she's 64. She's still hot as fuck.

Brendan Schaub 33:24 Stun- stunning.

Bryan Callen 33:25 Hot!

Jamie Vernon 33:26 No filter?

Bryan Callen 33:26 No. Long legs. No, no filter.

Brendan Schaub 33:29 Oh, Elizabeth Hurley.

Jamie Vernon 33:31 She's got a filter.

Bryan Callen 33:31 Elizabeth Hurley.

Brendan Schaub 33:31 She's got a filter.

Bryan Callen 33:31 Elizabeth Hurley's Instagram is goddamned hilarious. It is all her in her underwear. Every picture. How old is she? 85 years old.

Jamie Vernon 33:39 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 33:39 (laughs)

Bryan Callen 33:39 Every picture. She's older than me. I'm 52. She's like 54 or 55.

Brendan Schaub 33:43 That was Bill Clinton's girl.

Bryan Callen 33:44 Every picture-

Jamie Vernon 33:45 Allegedly.

Bryan Callen 33:46 ... every picture of her is her in her underwear on her Instagram.

Brendan Schaub 33:49 She's so bad.

Bryan Callen 33:50 And looking good, baby.

Brendan Schaub 33:51 Oh, dude.

Bryan Callen 33:52 Looking good.

Brendan Schaub 33:53 Should I fucking taint her filter?

Bryan Callen 33:54 I think she, I think what she does is eat, go to the gym, and take pictures in her underwear. I think that's all she does.

Brendan Schaub 33:59 She's earned it.

Bryan Callen 34:00 Yeah, man. Look, she's letting everybody know like while she's still got this body, she's putting that motherfucker front and center on display.

Brendan Schaub 34:07 How old is she?

Joe Rogan 34:07 She's 85 years old.

Bryan Callen 34:08 85?

Jamie Vernon 34:08 54.

Joe Rogan 34:09 54.

Brendan Schaub 34:10 54.

Jamie Vernon 34:10 Christie Brinkley's 65.

Joe Rogan 34:11 God damn.

Bryan Callen 34:12 Woo!

Jamie Vernon 34:12 How the shit does she do it?

Bryan Callen 34:13 Wait, Elizabeth Hurley's 54? That ain't that old.

Joe Rogan 34:15 Yes. Dude, she's hot as fuck though.

Brendan Schaub 34:16 That's young.

Bryan Callen 34:16 That ain't that old.

Joe Rogan 34:17 If you saw her at a club, you'd think that's a 35-year-old smoking chi- look at that. Smoke show.

Bryan Callen 34:21 That's some serious filter though.

Jamie Vernon 34:23 That's Elizabeth Hurley. Come on.

Brendan Schaub 34:24 Yeah, no. That's a bad picture, Jamie.

Bryan Callen 34:26 That's a cartoon filter.

Brendan Schaub 34:26 How dare you introduce that one as the first picture.

Jamie Vernon 34:27 You should see something, something without a filter. I'm just clicking.

Joe Rogan 34:29 No. Show me the full screen.

Bryan Callen 34:31 That's her?

Joe Rogan 34:32 Yes. Dude, she's hot as fuck.

Bryan Callen 34:33 That's her in 1998.

Joe Rogan 34:35 No, no, no, no.

Bryan Callen 34:35 No, no, no, no.

Joe Rogan 34:35 That's her like last week.

Bryan Callen 34:36 That's her in her pool right now.

Joe Rogan 34:37 Dude, when you got that kinda Elizabeth Hurley cash-

Bryan Callen 34:40 No way.

Joe Rogan 34:40 ... th- the pic- the picture right there with her in the bikini on the floaty thing.

Bryan Callen 34:43 On the, on the pink flamingo.

Joe Rogan 34:44 Right there.

Bryan Callen 34:44 Every bitch loves, loves a pink flamingo.

Joe Rogan 34:46 Bro, hot as fuck. Look at her body, man. She keeps it toned.

Bryan Callen 34:49 Dude, she has a, like a 30-year-old son.

Joe Rogan 34:51 Does she have kids?

Bryan Callen 34:52 Imagine being her son.

Joe Rogan 34:53 Yeah, her kid's 50. She lives in a new world.

Jamie Vernon 34:55 (laughs)

Bryan Callen 34:56 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 34:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:57 We live in a new world. A woman like her with massive amounts of resources and she can go to all the best doctors, hormone replacement, all the best... Like, look at th- look at that. That's her and her daughter. Dude, she's hot as fuck. She's 65 years old. Look at her. Come on, son.

Bryan Callen 35:13 Her daughter looking like the ugly friend. Your mom's hot.

Joe Rogan 35:16 Can you keep your ass together at 55 though?

Bryan Callen 35:19 Can you keep your ass together at 55 though?

Joe Rogan 35:20 Yeah. If you do, if you're doing hormones.

Bryan Callen 35:22 I don't see any ass shots.

Brendan Schaub 35:22 If you do any hormones-

Bryan Callen 35:22 That's the only ass shot.

Joe Rogan 35:22 Elizabeth Hurley has ass shots. Elizabeth Hurley's ass is perfect.

Bryan Callen 35:25 That's hard for me to believe. I, I think at 50 your ass just falls apart.

Brendan Schaub 35:29 Like guys can do it.

Jamie Vernon 35:29 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 35:29 Guys can do it though.

Bryan Callen 35:31 Guys have different kinda asses.

Joe Rogan 35:32 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 35:33 They have longer asses.

Bryan Callen 35:34 Our hips are narrow.

Joe Rogan 35:36 Holds th- but you can get ass jobs these days. You can get the, the Brazilian-

Brendan Schaub 35:39 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Bryan Callen 35:39 That's the worst, that's the worst advice ever.

Brendan Schaub 35:41 Ass jobs give you cancer.

Bryan Callen 35:41 Any girls out there thinking about... Look, no guys like ass implants. No guys.

Jamie Vernon 35:46 No guys.

Bryan Callen 35:47 No guys.

Jamie Vernon 35:47 No guys.

Brendan Schaub 35:48 No guys.

Bryan Callen 35:48 No guys.

Joe Rogan 35:48 But here's the thing, girls are starting-

Brendan Schaub 35:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:50 ... to develop ass cancer. They're starting to develop cancer in the same areas where women were... Some women are getting breast cancer from implants. It's, it's not always.

Bryan Callen 35:58 They're getting ass cancer?

Joe Rogan 36:00 Yes.

Bryan Callen 36:00 What?

Joe Rogan 36:00 Ass cancer. Yes.

Bryan Callen 36:01 Butt cheek cancer?

Joe Rogan 36:01 Yes, butt cheek cancer.

Bryan Callen 36:02 But from the implants-

Joe Rogan 36:03 Yes.

Bryan Callen 36:03 ... or are they doing the F- the Brazilian butt lift-

Joe Rogan 36:05 No. No.

Bryan Callen 36:05 ... which is fat?

Joe Rogan 36:06 Let me answer. It's a re- reaction to the implants.

Bryan Callen 36:08 Damn.

Joe Rogan 36:09 Your body doesn't want foreign substances in its body. If you put something in your body, a piece of plastic, and then your body like has to go, "Why is this here? What the fuck is this?" And your body starts to fight it and reject it, and then you develop scar tissue around it. That's why a lot of older ladies that got boob jobs, if you hug them, their... it feels like they got two basketballs in their chest.

Bryan Callen 36:27 Nice.

Joe Rogan 36:27 It's fucking weird.

Jamie Vernon 36:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:28 'Cause it's all scar tissue.

Bryan Callen 36:30 Hell yeah.

Jamie Vernon 36:30 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 36:31 Hell yeah. That's what I'm talking about.

Joe Rogan 36:31 So here we go. Kurtis Blades and what his homeboy's name? Say that name.Brendan.

Eddie Bravo 36:36 Oh, dude. Come on.

Joe Rogan 36:37 Abdu...

Eddie Bravo 36:38 Abdurakhimov?

Joe Rogan 36:39 ...rahimov.

Eddie Bravo 36:41 Abdurakhimov.

Joe Rogan 36:42 Abdu Rahimov.

Eddie Bravo 36:43 Ooh.

Joe Rogan 36:43 That's a big fella. It's Curtis Blaydes with a big shot, the deep shot.

Eddie Bravo 36:47 And whose mugshot is that over there?

Joe Rogan 36:48 Richard Pryor.

Eddie Bravo 36:49 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 36:50 The GOAT. Look at this.

Eddie Bravo 36:55 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 36:55 Crazy. Curtis Blaydes already on his back.

Eddie Bravo 36:59 That boy is hairy.

Joe Rogan 37:01 So you got a good picture of Christie Brinkley's ass? There must be one out there.

Eddie Bravo 37:04 There's-

Brendan Schaub 37:04 I don't think so, dude.

Bryan Callen 37:05 Neither of them, uh, turn around in their ass shots. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:09 No.

Eddie Bravo 37:09 No.

Joe Rogan 37:09 Neither of them turn around... (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 37:09 It's impossible. It's impossible.

Brendan Schaub 37:11 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 37:11 Unless you're doing, unless she's doing squats-

Joe Rogan 37:13 Woo!

Eddie Bravo 37:13 ... every other day at the Olympic Training Center in Colorado, it ain't happening.

Brendan Schaub 37:16 (sighs)

Eddie Bravo 37:16 I'm, I'm telling you, man.

Joe Rogan 37:17 What's the stopper?

Eddie Bravo 37:18 You guys are hating on implants, but there's, there's, there's the Brazilian butt lift, which isn't implants.

Joe Rogan 37:21 It's all horrible.

Eddie Bravo 37:22 It's, it's fat-

Bryan Callen 37:23 No.

Eddie Bravo 37:23 ... from your body-

Joe Rogan 37:23 No.

Eddie Bravo 37:23 ... in your ass.

Joe Rogan 37:24 It's horrible. If you got to put-

Eddie Bravo 37:25 I'm telling you, that's what they're doing.

Joe Rogan 37:26 If you gotta fucking put something in your ass to make it round, that means y- you've never worked out. And, and-

Eddie Bravo 37:31 Bren- Brendan-

Joe Rogan 37:31 ... your legs are not gonna match that ass. But that doesn't work on some girls because they don't have enough fat for it.

Eddie Bravo 37:37 Correct.

Joe Rogan 37:37 So what they do is they put plastic in there, and those are the girls-

Bryan Callen 37:39 No, I, I don't-

Eddie Bravo 37:39 Those are the implants. Those are the girls-

Joe Rogan 37:41 It doesn't count. Ass implants do not count. I agree.

Eddie Bravo 37:43 I would rather, I would rather marry a chick with a flat ass- No! ... than marry a chick with ass implants.

Bryan Callen 37:49 Fuck no.

Eddie Bravo 37:49 A million percent. No way. You just never fuck her doggy style. No way. You just go missionary, go old fashioned style. Never flip her over.

Bryan Callen 37:57 Old-fashioned style? (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 37:58 You never, you never flip that bitch over.

Brendan Schaub 38:02 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:02 Old-fashioned style. Like olden days. Who do you think was the first guy to fuck a girl doggy style? Like what year was that?

Eddie Bravo 38:09 Uh, Adam.

Joe Rogan 38:11 (laughs)

Bryan Callen 38:11 Adam and Eve, that's it.

Brendan Schaub 38:14 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:14 Are you kidding? Right in front of the tree, dude. Right in front of the tree eating an apple.

Eddie Bravo 38:20 He put the apple on her apple. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:23 Are you kidding? I think missionary came, like-

Bryan Callen 38:26 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 38:26 ... I think missionary started like 200 years ago. From the Vatican or something. It was like, "Missionary, we do this."

Brendan Schaub 38:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 38:38 Curtis Blaydes, wrestle fuckin' him to death.

Eddie Bravo 38:40 God, he can wrestle.

Joe Rogan 38:41 He's a great wrestler. Thing about Blaydes is like, Ngannou's beat him twice, and the last time he stopped him. You know? Well, he stopped him both times.

Eddie Bravo 38:50 Tough matchup.

Joe Rogan 38:50 But the last time he stopped him quick. I feel like a guy like him is in this spot where it's like, can he ever beat Ngannou, right? I mean, he's a really good wrestler, he's strong as fuck, he's beaten a lot of people. Beat the shit out of Alistair Overeem. I mean, Curtis Blaydes is a tough, tough dude.

Eddie Bravo 39:08 Did he play football?

Joe Rogan 39:09 No, wrestled. JUCO national champion.

Eddie Bravo 39:11 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 39:12 Stud, super stud. He's a Team Elevate guy, right? Uh, Elevation.

Eddie Bravo 39:15 Elevation.

Joe Rogan 39:18 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 39:18 So was he a NCAA Division One national champion?

Joe Rogan 39:21 Uh, JUCO national champion.

Eddie Bravo 39:22 What the hell is that?

Joe Rogan 39:23 Junior co- junior college.

Eddie Bravo 39:24 Junior college? Okay.

Joe Rogan 39:25 Jon Jones was JUCO national champ.

Eddie Bravo 39:26 Okay.

Joe Rogan 39:27 Rumble Johnson, I think, uh, was high up there, too. How about Rumble Johnson making that comeback? Who the, who- man, him versus Francis. Sign me up right now.

Eddie Bravo 39:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:35 That poster would be so sick. I don't, I don't want him to fight someone like Francis in the first fight back. I want him to make a big statement. Like, uh...

Eddie Bravo 39:41 He's coming back for sure?

Joe Rogan 39:42 Yep, yep. He's training. He's, he, he just posted a video, he said, "First time hitting pads in two years." Okay. Exc- all right, yeah. Don't give, don't give him Francis right away. What do you think happened? I have a feeling, like, he was itching, and then he, uh, did a grappling match against Craig Jones. He got leg locked with the quickness. Okay. Craig Jones locked him up quick. Probably got real mad, and then probably said, "You know what? Fuck this."

Eddie Bravo 40:04 "I ain't going out like that."

Joe Rogan 40:06 Yeah. "I'm gonna start smashing."

Eddie Bravo 40:06 I also think maybe re- like, retired life, maybe, and then the bare knuck- he was like an ambassador for bare knuckle.

Joe Rogan 40:11 Mm-hmm.

Eddie Bravo 40:11 And maybe he just retired. He's like, "God, this shit is boring. I can fight at heavyweight."

Joe Rogan 40:14 Well, he's in the weed game, too. He's, uh, involved somehow or another in some legal marijuana enterprise.

Eddie Bravo 40:22 (coughs) But that's not gonna get your rocks off.

Joe Rogan 40:24 And, and when, when people retire, like in boxing, when people retire, they are like, "Ah, I got enough money, I'll retire." "This is it."

Eddie Bravo 40:29 "I got a couple mil. I'll retire." But then you get used to that couple mil.

Joe Rogan 40:33 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 40:33 And you're like, "Damn, I'm running out of fucking money."

Joe Rogan 40:35 Yeah, yeah. Yup.

Eddie Bravo 40:35 "I got like 700,000 left." Yeah, you right. You know what I mean? I got, I gotta take another fight. They all come back.

Joe Rogan 40:41 Yeah.

Bryan Callen 40:42 Damn feet though.

Eddie Bravo 40:43 Vitor, still doing the damn thing.

Joe Rogan 40:44 Yup. Fighting for ONE FC. Are they gonna drug test him at all?

Eddie Bravo 40:49 No, what are you doing?

Joe Rogan 40:50 They should, just to make sure he's on drugs.

Brendan Schaub 40:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:53 Just to make sure.

Eddie Bravo 40:54 Get, get, get your money's worth. We're fighting in the middle of nowhere, come on.

Bryan Callen 40:56 (sniffs)

Joe Rogan 40:58 Man, there's no way Dana's going to give Curtis a title fight with, with, fight like this.

Eddie Bravo 41:02 He, he can... He's fighting like Khabib. What's the difference?

Joe Rogan 41:04 Well, he's gotta beat Francis. Francis beat him twice. I mean, the only way he's getting a title fight is if Francis wins the title and nobody wants to fight Francis.

Eddie Bravo 41:12 Oh.

Joe Rogan 41:13 For once.

Eddie Bravo 41:14 Shit. Look at those elbows from the mou-

Joe Rogan 41:16 Oh, he's, he's nasty.

Brendan Schaub 41:17 He's nasty.

Eddie Bravo 41:17 His ground and pound is nasty.

Joe Rogan 41:18 It's over, kid.

Bryan Callen 41:18 Ferocious.

Eddie Bravo 41:19 It's over, kid. A wrestler in the mount? Sh-

Joe Rogan 41:21 Oh, but he's really getting elbows-

Brendan Schaub 41:23 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 41:23 Oh, oh.

Eddie Bravo 41:24 Shit.

Joe Rogan 41:24 This dude is in serious trouble.

Eddie Bravo 41:25 This is like Scott Morris, Patrick Smith shit.

Bryan Callen 41:27 That's it. That's rap. That's wrap.

Joe Rogan 41:28 He's s-... His ground and pound is filthy.

Eddie Bravo 41:30 Ferocious.

Bryan Callen 41:31 That's the end of the round, too. I don't know if they stopped the fight or that's the end.

Eddie Bravo 41:33 Oh, really?

Bryan Callen 41:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:34 Oh, I thought that was it.

Brendan Schaub 41:35 Oh, fuck.

Eddie Bravo 41:35 Oh, no, that, I... It's gonna go on to the second round, I bet.

Joe Rogan 41:38 Oh, it's not over?

Bryan Callen 41:38 Oh, yeah. Okay.

Brendan Schaub 41:39 Oh, yeah.

Bryan Callen 41:39 I thought you said it was just very close.

Eddie Bravo 41:40 Dude.

Joe Rogan 41:41 Yeah, they're bringing him to his corner. Wow, he got lucky.

Bryan Callen 41:43 Dude, all, I, I'm s-... All these Russians have terrible haircuts, right?

Joe Rogan 41:46 Wow.

Bryan Callen 41:46 They never have hair.

Joe Rogan 41:47 (clears throat) There's a lot of fucking testosterone right there.

Bryan Callen 41:49 Correct. A lot of hair on the body, not on top.

Joe Rogan 41:51 Boom. You know who's got the, the craziest? Is... What's that guy's name? Rustam Chiev? What's that, that guy's name? The wrestler, the grappler dude? He's star-

Eddie Bravo 41:59 Yep.

Joe Rogan 41:59 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 41:59 Rustam Chimaev.

Joe Rogan 42:00 Chimaev.

Eddie Bravo 42:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:01 That guy is the hairiest man on the face of the planet. He looks like a bear.

Eddie Bravo 42:05 And he's one of the, he's one of the beastliest grapplers on the planet.

Joe Rogan 42:08 He's a killer.

Brendan Schaub 42:09 Really?

Eddie Bravo 42:09 Rustam?

Brendan Schaub 42:09 He's a killer.

Eddie Bravo 42:10 Rustam picks people up and throws them across the fucking room.

Brendan Schaub 42:13 Killer.

Eddie Bravo 42:13 All the time.

Joe Rogan 42:14 He's like a giant Khabib.

Eddie Bravo 42:15 He's exactly-

Joe Rogan 42:16 Oh, fuck.

Eddie Bravo 42:16 ... like a giant Khabib. Exactly.

Joe Rogan 42:18 But covered in hair.

Eddie Bravo 42:19 And-

Joe Rogan 42:19 Is he doing MMA?

Bryan Callen 42:20 (clears throat)

Eddie Bravo 42:20 Yes. He does MMA, but he does-

Joe Rogan 42:22 (coughs)

Eddie Bravo 42:22 I don't know exactly what he's doing now. He- he's fought in EBI. He got to the finals, and uh-

Joe Rogan 42:26 And what happened?

Eddie Bravo 42:27 ... and lost to Gordon Ryan in overtime.

Joe Rogan 42:28 God, Gordon Ryan's a badass.

Eddie Bravo 42:29 So he got to the finals with Gordon, lost in overtime. Rustam is no joke.

Joe Rogan 42:34 But pull up a picture of that dude. He's literally the hairiest man you're ever gonna see in your life.

Bryan Callen 42:39 Right.

Joe Rogan 42:39 ... outside of George "The Animal" Steel-

Brendan Schaub 42:41 His name was Rustam.

Joe Rogan 42:43 Rustam Chiev.

Eddie Bravo 42:44 Chiev, C-H-

Brendan Schaub 42:44 Good luck with that, Jimmy.

Eddie Bravo 42:45 ... C-H-I-E-V, I think. (coughs) Yeah, he's got a lot of hair on his back.

Joe Rogan 42:52 He's a beast.

Eddie Bravo 42:53 But Curtis Strikin's doing a lot better too.

Brendan Schaub 42:56 Oof.

Eddie Bravo 42:56 Oh, he got caught with that upper cut. Oh, there it is.

Brendan Schaub 42:58 He's just trying to get in the-

Joe Rogan 43:00 Yeah, he's just trying to get to that same position again. Once he realized he could hold that guy down and beat the fuck out of him.

Brendan Schaub 43:05 Blades versus Stipe would be fun. It'd be interesting to see how S- Stipe deals with the straight razor.

Eddie Bravo 43:09 So the belt's back in Cleveland now.

Joe Rogan 43:10 The belt's back in Cleveland.

Brendan Schaub 43:11 Huh, yes sir.

Eddie Bravo 43:12 Everything's in Cleveland now.

Joe Rogan 43:13 Take a picture of that.

Brendan Schaub 43:14 Everything's in Cleveland.

Joe Rogan 43:14 Get a look at that.

Eddie Bravo 43:14 Odell Beckham Junior, are you kidding me?

Brendan Schaub 43:17 Look at that guy's body. He looks like a werewolf.

Eddie Bravo 43:18 Holy shit.

Brendan Schaub 43:19 Look at that chick.

Joe Rogan 43:20 Go ah, find a better picture of him. There's better pictures. That's not-

Eddie Bravo 43:22 That's him right there.

Joe Rogan 43:23 That's him when he shaved. That's him shaved.

Eddie Bravo 43:24 Yeah, that's him clipped.

Brendan Schaub 43:25 How dare you shave.

Joe Rogan 43:26 (clears throat) How about that one? There we go.

Eddie Bravo 43:27 Rustam, dude.

Brendan Schaub 43:28 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 43:28 The hairy catt-

Eddie Bravo 43:29 That's the, that's the Russian Bear.

Brendan Schaub 43:30 He's a beast. (coughs)

Eddie Bravo 43:30 That's the Russian Bear right there.

Brendan Schaub 43:32 That's the hairiest man I've ever seen.

Joe Rogan 43:34 Serious grappler.

Brendan Schaub 43:36 Holy shit.

Eddie Bravo 43:38 I'm trying to get him to do combat jujitsu.

Brendan Schaub 43:40 Oh my God, look at the hair on, uh, up his arms. Good for him.

Joe Rogan 43:45 How many MMA guys have gotten into combat jujitsu?

Eddie Bravo 43:48 Uh, uh, Jesse Taylor, uh, Josh Neer, uh, most-

Joe Rogan 43:53 Josh Neer?

Eddie Bravo 43:53 ... most... I would say 98% of the guys that do combat jujitsu have MMA experience.

Joe Rogan 44:00 (clears throat)

Eddie Bravo 44:00 They're... Pure jujitsu grapplers, they don't want to have anything to do with combat jujitsu.

Brendan Schaub 44:06 No.

Eddie Bravo 44:06 They're like, "Fuck that shit." 99% of the guys that I have all have MMA experience.

Joe Rogan 44:13 When did Josh Neer compete?

Eddie Bravo 44:15 He was, uh... When we did, um, (smacks lips) EBI '17, it was, uh, uh, the first 16-man combat jujitsu tournament we did. And, um, (smacks lips) I think, I got, I think he got taken out in the first round. He's coming back, though. He's doing the next one, the next show. Next combat jujitsu is November 24th in Mexico. It's the middleweights. Jon Thor Blank is the, is, uh... He won that tournament that Josh Neer did. Josh Neer's coming back. Jon Thor's coming back. Um, Jesse Taylor's gonna do it. Felipe Fogelin. W- it's, it's gonna be int- insane. November 24th in Mexico. Interesting.

Brendan Schaub 44:49 Oh, damn. Where at in Mexico?

Eddie Bravo 44:50 Monterey.

Joe Rogan 44:51 Josh Neer's, like, one of the forgotten pioneers. He was a killer.

Eddie Bravo 44:54 A dentist.

Joe Rogan 44:55 He was a killer.

Eddie Bravo 44:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:56 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 44:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:57 Like, when was the last time he fought MMA, though? It's been a long time, right?

Eddie Bravo 45:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:01 So he just decided to compete again, but-

Eddie Bravo 45:03 Yeah, combat jiu-jutsu... Oh, it's over.

Joe Rogan 45:04 (clears throat)

Eddie Bravo 45:05 It's over. It's over.

Brendan Schaub 45:05 Look at that.

Joe Rogan 45:06 That's it. That's it.

Brendan Schaub 45:06 Boy, Curtis is beating the shit out of him. I don't believe it.

Eddie Bravo 45:08 Did you guys see the last combat jujitsu show?

Joe Rogan 45:10 I did not.

Brendan Schaub 45:10 I didn't.

Eddie Bravo 45:10 You didn't see it?

Brendan Schaub 45:11 I did not.

Eddie Bravo 45:12 Oh, dude, you got... Go get on UFC Fight Pass and watch the last one, dude, when... Dude, (laughs) it was insane.

Joe Rogan 45:19 It's a great idea, Eddie.

Eddie Bravo 45:20 It was insane, dude.

Joe Rogan 45:21 It's a great step for guys who are thinking about fighting in MMA to go from jujitsu, MMA-

Eddie Bravo 45:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:27 ... or jujitsu, combat jujitsu, then MMA.

Eddie Bravo 45:28 I just... You know, there's a lot of different ways to look at it. You know, uh, it... You could look at is as a... If y- if you're planning on, (clears throat) on, uh, transitioning into MMA and you're a grappler, it's a great sport. Or, if you're done with MMA and it's too brutal but you still want to compete, that's a, that's another way to look at it. I look at it as just the most gangster form of jujitsu. Like, when you just look at jujitsu, forget about MMA, you just look at jujitsu in all the different formats, combat jujitsu is the most gangster, it's the most scary, it's the scariest one. And, like I said, pure jujitsu grapplers don't want to have anything to do with combat jujitsu.

Joe Rogan 46:07 Dude-

Eddie Bravo 46:07 It's all guys from MMA.

Joe Rogan 46:09 Out o-

Brendan Schaub 46:09 Do they look... Oh, sorry. Go ahead.

Joe Rogan 46:10 I was gonna say, out of all the guys in MMA in the heavyweight division, does Curtis Blades have the best ground and pound? 'Cause he might.

Brendan Schaub 46:16 By far.

Joe Rogan 46:16 Not even close. He might have the best.

Brendan Schaub 46:17 Yep, by far. He's smashing with these elbows.

Eddie Bravo 46:19 Well, well, you know, Cain Velasquez is up in there.

Brendan Schaub 46:21 He specializes.

Joe Rogan 46:21 Yeah, oh yeah.

Brendan Schaub 46:22 Cain has a mask on, for God's sakes, right now, so...

Eddie Bravo 46:25 But still, he's still in the mix, right?

Joe Rogan 46:26 Is he in the mix?

Brendan Schaub 46:27 No, he just got s- you know, he came back and he got starched.

Eddie Bravo 46:30 He's not signed with the UFC?

Brendan Schaub 46:30 No, he's still there.

Eddie Bravo 46:31 Does he have a contract? No contract?

Joe Rogan 46:32 What, is he done? Is he-

Brendan Schaub 46:33 I don't know. He, he, he said right now he's focused on, uh, the Nacho Libre stuff, and then he's gonna, you know-

Eddie Bravo 46:38 Watch your mouth, man.

Brendan Schaub 46:39 Is that what it's called, Nacho Libre? I'm not even trying to be funny.

Eddie Bravo 46:41 Lucha Libre.

Brendan Schaub 46:42 (sighs) Nacho Libre's the movie.

Joe Rogan 46:44 Yeah, that's a Jack Black movie.

Eddie Bravo 46:45 Dude, you're gonna get attacked online. You better watch out.

Joe Rogan 46:46 Yeah, they're coming for you, bro.

Brendan Schaub 46:47 Oh, no. Bring it, bro.

Eddie Bravo 46:49 Nacho Libre.

Brendan Schaub 46:50 Curtis Blades!

Joe Rogan 46:51 I like his haircut too.

Brendan Schaub 46:53 You like the baldness on the side?

Eddie Bravo 46:54 How did, how did Francis beat him? Knocked him out, starched him? Both times?

Joe Rogan 46:57 He, he stopped him in the first fight. He had a crazy swelling in his eye.

Brendan Schaub 47:00 No, he didn't. First fight, TKO, right?

Eddie Bravo 47:00 Yeah, he stopped him.

Brendan Schaub 47:01 Like doctor stoppage, though.

Joe Rogan 47:02 Yeah. (clears throat) He got a crazy swelling in his eye, and they stopped the fight.

Eddie Bravo 47:04 Was Curtis Blades trying to take him down the whole fight?

Brendan Schaub 47:07 Yes.

Eddie Bravo 47:07 He was. He was trying-

Brendan Schaub 47:08 And then the, then the second fight, he got starched right away.

Joe Rogan 47:10 Yeah, he got clipped.

Brendan Schaub 47:10 Francis went in and just clipped him, and that was a big fight for Francis.

Eddie Bravo 47:13 But you know what? He's still in the mix. Look at him. He's still fighting, he's still out there.

Brendan Schaub 47:14 He's number four, dude.

Eddie Bravo 47:15 He don't give a fuck. He don't give a fuck.

Joe Rogan 47:16 But he's number four.

Brendan Schaub 47:16 Oh, yeah, he's...

Eddie Bravo 47:17 He don't give a fuck.

Joe Rogan 47:17 No, he's right there.

Brendan Schaub 47:18 He's in the mix.

Eddie Bravo 47:19 I think he knows now more than ever, I'm just gonna guess, but I think based on his experience w- in those fights with Francis, that he realizes, "You know what? I just gotta be the heavyweight Khabib. I gotta take people down and smash them on the ground."

Brendan Schaub 47:31 Him versus Stipe is very interesting.

Joe Rogan 47:33 Right? It's just hard when a guy's stopped you a couple times in a row, you know? Two's tough.

Eddie Bravo 47:38 Dude, he's huge. Look at, look how giant he is.

Brendan Schaub 47:41 I mean, Jon's tiny though. Anik's freaking tiny.

Eddie Bravo 47:44 Is he?

Brendan Schaub 47:44 Yeah, he's small, yeah.

Eddie Bravo 47:46 How tall is he?

Brendan Schaub 47:46 How, how tall is A- Anik, Rogan?

Joe Rogan 47:47 He's my height. So he's 5'8".

Brendan Schaub 47:49 No-

Eddie Bravo 47:49 Damn, he's that short?

Joe Rogan 47:50 No way. Maybe he's 5'7".

Brendan Schaub 47:51 No, he's shorter, he's shorter than you.

Eddie Bravo 47:53 Fuck.

Joe Rogan 47:53 Maybe 5'7", 5'8".

Eddie Bravo 47:54 I'm kidding.

Brendan Schaub 47:55 He's in the neighborhood. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:56 Your height? (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 47:58 When people say, "You're short," I'm like, "Damn, I'm Joe Rogan size. I'm right there with him."

Joe Rogan 48:02 We are short.

Brendan Schaub 48:02 What, what are you guys? Three-quarters of an inch.

Eddie Bravo 48:04 5'9" after my back surgery.

Brendan Schaub 48:05 He's 5'9". He, after back-

Joe Rogan 48:06 His, his back surgery gave him a inch.

Eddie Bravo 48:07 Yep, tight move. Three-quarters of an inch.

Brendan Schaub 48:09 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 48:09 I swear to God, and you... I went to the doctor and I fucking had a physical and they measured it, I was like, "5'9"." I'm like, "Oh my God."

Joe Rogan 48:15 How are you? How, how is it now?

Eddie Bravo 48:18 (sighs)

Brendan Schaub 48:18 Not good.

Joe Rogan 48:19 (laughs) That's a big sign.

Brendan Schaub 48:20 (laughs) Yeah, it's not good.

Joe Rogan 48:22 I'm not l- I'm not liking that.

Eddie Bravo 48:23 It... You know, um, before my back surgery, the pain came from inflammation. So my b- I had no disc in my bones were rubbing together. My, my L5, S1, or whatever the fuck they call it.

Brendan Schaub 48:35 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 48:35 So what ends up happening, there's a problem there in my back, so my, my body, uh, it, it inflames, the whole lower back, just so it's, like, sore. So, I was living life with just a stiff, frozen back all the time.... finally got an MRI after years and years, finally got the back surgery. So now, there's a titanium disc in between the two vertebrae. But my body is still, you know, 'cause I'm rolling now and I don't think I'm supposed to, but, uh, I gotta fucking lose weight, and I don't know any other way-

Joe Rogan 49:06 You don't think you're supposed to roll?

Eddie Bravo 49:08 My doc- my doctor told me, he doesn't know anything about jujitsu. And he said, he goes, "You..." (sighs) Okay. "What are you doing exactly in this jujitsu thing?"

Brendan Schaub 49:18 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 49:18 I go, uh, he goes, "Are people picking you up and slamming you?"

Brendan Schaub 49:21 Jesus Christ.

Eddie Bravo 49:21 And I said, "No, no, no, no. No, not, they're not picking me up and," 'cause I'm always pulling guard, you know. So I didn't wanna explain that to him 'cause he didn't know what pulling guard ... I go, "No, no, no. No one's picking me up and slamming me." And he goes, "Okay, that's good. But you're not, like, twisting or anything, are you?" And I said, "Twisting?" (clears throat)

Brendan Schaub 49:35 Well, my nickname's The Twister.

Eddie Bravo 49:37 Mm-mm. Mm-mm.

Brendan Schaub 49:38 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:38 No, we're not twisting.

Brendan Schaub 49:40 My nickname-

Eddie Bravo 49:40 So he goes, "As long as you don't twist, you don't wanna do anything. You don't wanna go to the gym and twist your back at all. No twisting at all." Y- you can't, you can't-

Brendan Schaub 49:48 Ever?

Eddie Bravo 49:48 "No running, no twisting, and no squatting."

Joe Rogan 49:51 No ru- no running?

Eddie Bravo 49:51 No squa- no running.

Joe Rogan 49:53 No squatting?

Eddie Bravo 49:53 No squatting.

Joe Rogan 49:54 Oh, that's bad, dude.

Eddie Bravo 49:55 No deadlifts. They go, "You, we don't want any compression going on in your spine at all, and no twisting." And, um-

Brendan Schaub 50:02 Jesus.

Eddie Bravo 50:04 So what's happening is I'm rolling and my back feels the same like before surgery. Like, it still-

Brendan Schaub 50:11 Hurts.

Eddie Bravo 50:11 ... it's still inflamed, it's still inflamed. So it's, my body's going, "Something's wrong with your back." It-

Joe Rogan 50:16 What, what do you think would happen if you got, like, Regenakine down there or anything?

Eddie Bravo 50:20 (sighs) I did that, dude.

Joe Rogan 50:21 Yeah, before-

Eddie Bravo 50:22 And it didn't do shit.

Joe Rogan 50:22 ... before the surgery, you did. But what about now?

Eddie Bravo 50:24 (tsking) That's another 10K. I ain't gonna do that shit again.

Joe Rogan 50:27 Yeah?

Eddie Bravo 50:27 Yeah. You know what? I'm just, I'm rolling with little-

Joe Rogan 50:31 Ooh! This is the fight. Islam Makhachev, Davi Ramos.

Eddie Bravo 50:35 Yeah. Are you kidding me?

Joe Rogan 50:36 This is the-

Eddie Bravo 50:36 Davi fucking Ramos is the shit.

Joe Rogan 50:37 This is the fight I'm looking forward to almost as much as the main event.

Eddie Bravo 50:41 Yeah. Davi Ramos is-

Joe Rogan 50:42 He is the shit.

Eddie Bravo 50:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:43 But so is Islam. Islam is a beast, man. That guy is so good. DC said he's the heir apparent. And he said, "If you see him go with Khabib," he said, "That motherfucker is the future champion."

Brendan Schaub 50:54 I've, I've heard he's an absolute monster in the gym.

Joe Rogan 50:57 Yeah. He's so complete. Everywhere, striking, ground game.

Eddie Bravo 50:59 I don't really know that much about Davi Ramos' standup, uh, s- uh, skills, but if the fight gets on the ground, I'm g- I'm, I'm gonna go ahead, uh, I'ma go out on a limb and say it's gonna be over quick.

Brendan Schaub 51:11 You think? I don't know.

Joe Rogan 51:13 Fuck off.

Brendan Schaub 51:13 No, no, it's not, it's not that easy.

Eddie Bravo 51:14 Davi, dude, Davi Ramos-

Brendan Schaub 51:15 I know, I know who Davi is. He's a monster.

Eddie Bravo 51:17 ... that's a bad motherfucker, dude.

Brendan Schaub 51:17 I don't think it's gonna be that easy, though.

Eddie Bravo 51:19 Hmm, I don't know.

Joe Rogan 51:19 But he's won decisions, Eddie.

Eddie Bravo 51:20 (clears throat) What's that?

Joe Rogan 51:21 Da- Davi Ramos has won decisions against guys who are not as good as Islam.

Brendan Schaub 51:25 Okay. Okay. He's not so straight savage.

Joe Rogan 51:27 Yeah, uh, but may- maybe I'm wrong about that. Pull up Davi Ramos' record.

Brendan Schaub 51:31 Islam, uh, he's a combat sports, uh, you know, world champion, so he's versed in grappling.

Joe Rogan 51:35 Well, he's so good.

Brendan Schaub 51:36 Not to the-

Joe Rogan 51:37 Islam is-

Brendan Schaub 51:37 ... Ramos' jujitsu.

Joe Rogan 51:38 No. No, no, no.

Eddie Bravo 51:39 Okay, I could be wrong.

Joe Rogan 51:40 Islam's-

Eddie Bravo 51:40 I don't know anything about Islam.

Joe Rogan 51:41 ... he's so solid, dude. He's so solid, like across the board.

Brendan Schaub 51:43 Yeah, he-

Eddie Bravo 51:43 Yeah, he might be hard to finish. I'll take that back. I'll take that back. But I just wanted to, you know, say that I'm a giant fan of Davi Ramos' jujitsu. He, what he's done in Abu Dhabi is insane.

Joe Rogan 51:53 Yeah, so see, he's got, he's got one decision against Austin Hubbard in his last fight.

Eddie Bravo 51:59 Who is this?

Brendan Schaub 52:00 Okay. He lost to Sergio Moraes.

Joe Rogan 52:02 Davi Ramos. Yeah, but Sergio Moraes is another-

Brendan Schaub 52:04 Black belt for sure.

Joe Rogan 52:04 ... nasty fucking jujitsu fighter. And Sergio is actually a larger guy. Sergio's, Sergio's fighting at 185. Was he, is he fighting at 185 or 170 now?

Brendan Schaub 52:14 No, 170.

Joe Rogan 52:14 No, 70, he l- but he fought at 85 in the finals.

Eddie Bravo 52:16 His, his losses weren't decisions.

Joe Rogan 52:17 He fought, in the finals of the Ultimate Fighter Brazil, he fought 85 against, uh, Mutante, Cesar Ferreira. That was 85.

Brendan Schaub 52:26 And then he fought 70, uh, Neil Magny.

Joe Rogan 52:29 And he goes, he-

Brendan Schaub 52:29 Triangle choke, Neil Magny.

Joe Rogan 52:30 Yeah, and he gets starch by Usman.

Eddie Bravo 52:31 I'm gonna call Dave, Davi Ramos armbar. I'ma say Davi Ramos armbar right now. You heard it here first.

Joe Rogan 52:35 But all I'm saying is he's won a bunch of submissions, but he submissioned Nick Piedmont, you know, he decisioned Nick Piedmont, he decisioned this Austin Hubbard character in his last fight. So that, he d- it went three rounds with that cat. That was a good fight, too. Austin Hubbard's a good fighter. That was a really good fight.

Brendan Schaub 52:51 Powerful Rick Lee in the back. (sighs)

Joe Rogan 52:54 Um, so I don't know if he's gonna submit him quick. I think Makhachev's-

Brendan Schaub 52:58 No.

Joe Rogan 52:58 ... the best fighter he's fought.

Brendan Schaub 52:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:59 I really do.

Brendan Schaub 53:00 I would assume, uh, he's an under, your boy's an underdog, Eddie.

Joe Rogan 53:04 God damn it, Brandon.

Brendan Schaub 53:06 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 53:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:07 (laughs) So-

Eddie Bravo 53:07 Why you gotta piss on my prediction?

Joe Rogan 53:09 I'm not, dude. That, hey, um, how's Victor's back? 'Cause Victor had the same surgery as you, right?

Eddie Bravo 53:14 Yeah, he came in last week.

Joe Rogan 53:15 How's his back?

Eddie Bravo 53:16 Uh, his was a little different than mine.

Joe Rogan 53:18 Really?

Eddie Bravo 53:18 You'd be surprised at, like, when, when you, when you, um, if, when I went to have back surgery, my doctor showed me X-rays of all these different backs. He goes, "Dude, they all look way different." Like, everyone's back is so different, and some people have fucked up backs. They've never done anything athletically their whole life. So it's like, uh, his was different than mine. Mine, my-

Joe Rogan 53:39 Look it up.

Brendan Schaub 53:40 Mine, mine was worse than Victor's.

Eddie Bravo 53:41 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:41 Islam's a 400, -400 favorite.

Brendan Schaub 53:44 He's, I think he's the biggest favorite on the card besides Khabib.

Eddie Bravo 53:46 God damn it.

Brendan Schaub 53:46 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 53:47 I didn't know anything about Islam.

Joe Rogan 53:49 Oh, he's so good, dude. He's so good.

Brendan Schaub 53:50 If you talk to anyone who's in, like, the circles, he's like the next.

Joe Rogan 53:53 They think he's the heir apparent.

Brendan Schaub 53:54 Khabib. Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 53:55 God damn it.

Brendan Schaub 53:55 He's a fucking nightmare. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:57 So-

Eddie Bravo 53:57 Can, can I take back my prediction?

Joe Rogan 53:58 No. No, so-

Eddie Bravo 53:59 I can't take it back?

Joe Rogan 54:00 No, no, no, never. Always remember.

Eddie Bravo 54:00 Wait a minute. I gotta commit to it?

Joe Rogan 54:01 Once you say something, you stick with it for life.

Eddie Bravo 54:04 That's bullshit. That's, that's fucking bullshit. That's bullshit.

Brendan Schaub 54:04 We didn't bet on it, though. At least we didn't bet on it. We could've hustled Callan. You-

Eddie Bravo 54:08 I'll bet 20 bucks.

Brendan Schaub 54:08 When's Callan's show?

Joe Rogan 54:09 Second round, Khabib?

Eddie Bravo 54:09 I got Davi Ramos. 20 bucks, I got Davi Ramos. 20 bucks.

Brendan Schaub 54:12 He might not ever be here. It's already...

Joe Rogan 54:13 He said he was gonna be done at 11, but he's probably at a wine shop right now picking out vintages.

Eddie Bravo 54:17 (sighs)

Brendan Schaub 54:18 I knew he-

Joe Rogan 54:18 But when they say you're done at 11 when you're filming a TV show, you're done at 1:00 in the morning.

Brendan Schaub 54:21 Me too. He, I, I, I bet you, I bet you he doesn't make it. I bet you he doesn't make it.

Eddie Bravo 54:24 He probably won't.

Joe Rogan 54:24 So what, let me ask you this. What was the difference between Victor's back and your back?

Eddie Bravo 54:28 It just looked different. My, uh, you had to qualify physically for the, this, to, for, um, disc replacement. If you don't qualify for disc replacement, your bones gotta be a certain way, then they just fuse it. Then they just fucking put, like, a metal cage in your spine-

Joe Rogan 54:45 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 54:45 ... and just fucking screw it all together.

Brendan Schaub 54:46 That's what Cain got.

Eddie Bravo 54:47 Yeah. So fusion is, that's hardcore. Uh, but the, the alternative is disc replacement.... and it, and it all depends how your bones sit. And I was right, dude, I was right. He was showing me, my doctor said, "Dude, you're bare- you're barely qualified for disc replacement. You wanna do it, it's on you." I, it was, dude, it was a game time decision. Um, I decided whether I was gonna go fusion or disc r- right before surgery, right where the, right wher- before they put me out.

Joe Rogan 55:14 Oh my God. How can you make that decision?

Brendan Schaub 55:16 That's Khabib's dad, right? Sorry to interrupt you guys.

Eddie Bravo 55:17 He said, "It's your decision, not mine." 'Cause I was on the, on the fence. I was like, on the borderline. And then I decided to go with, uh, disc replacement. So, there's a risk, there's a risk if, if you're not qualified physically and you go ahead and do it, shit could fall apart. Like-

Brendan Schaub 55:33 Mm. Like, wha- what is the qualification though? That's why I'm confused.

Eddie Bravo 55:36 It's the way your bones are sitting. Like, if your, if your vertebrae are like, um, like, uh, horizontal, then you're good. But if you're like this, if your vertebrae are, some people are like, they're like, "No, we gotta fuse that motherfucker 'cause it's slipping off your shit."

Brendan Schaub 55:50 Oh, so it's so, so cockeyed that it's like, poking into the side of your body?

Eddie Bravo 55:55 Uh, it's simplified, it's just if, if you're horizontal and there's something that it's laying on, it's good. But if you're like this, mine was like this.

Brendan Schaub 56:03 Mm.

Eddie Bravo 56:03 My back was like, uh, they were ready to just fuse it.

Brendan Schaub 56:06 Ooh.

Eddie Bravo 56:07 But the problem with it, if you get fusion, in five years, you gotta fuse the vertebrae on top of it.

Brendan Schaub 56:13 (groans)

Eddie Bravo 56:13 And then five years later, you gotta fuse the other one, so your back's just gonna be one metal pipe.

Brendan Schaub 56:17 Uh, I, I know a girl, she used to work at the comedy store, her whole back's fused.

Eddie Bravo 56:21 Yeah. Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 56:21 She had some- something fucked up with an op-

Eddie Bravo 56:23 Once you go fusion, you just get, it's every five years you gotta get more.

Brendan Schaub 56:26 Bro, bro, she walked like this.

Eddie Bravo 56:29 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 56:29 Like, everything was like this.

Eddie Bravo 56:30 Yeah, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 56:30 It was like she had a pole from her head all the way over to her butt. Is, is she still there?

Eddie Bravo 56:33 No.

Brendan Schaub 56:34 She was like this. So, I, I-

Eddie Bravo 56:37 But other than my back, dude, I had shoulder surgery and knee surgery, and those motherfuckers aren't 100% either. I don't, I think at 50, when you're 50-

Brendan Schaub 56:45 Mm.

Eddie Bravo 56:45 ... I don't think you ever recover 100%.

Joe Rogan 56:47 Are you still on the TRT?

Eddie Bravo 56:48 A little bit.

Joe Rogan 56:49 What about stem c- did you say you're doing stem cell too?

Eddie Bravo 56:52 No, no, no, no, no, no.

Joe Rogan 56:54 You gotta do that, man.

Brendan Schaub 56:55 I'm about to get stem cells. Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 56:55 Stem cells-

Joe Rogan 56:55 I guarantee you if you did that, that'd fix that shoulder. Guarantee you.

Eddie Bravo 56:58 (clears throat) I'm about to get my foot for my plantar.

Joe Rogan 57:00 You still have plantar fasciitis?

Eddie Bravo 57:02 Horribly.

Joe Rogan 57:02 Are you still running?

Eddie Bravo 57:04 Uh, yeah, I have to.

Joe Rogan 57:05 You have to?

Eddie Bravo 57:05 I just love it.

Joe Rogan 57:06 Why don't you get one of them Xero Runners? Have you seen that thing that I have out here?

Brendan Schaub 57:09 Is it a Woodway?

Joe Rogan 57:11 No, no, no. It's a, it's like, uh-

Brendan Schaub 57:12 That's weird. I, yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:13 ... it's s- sort of like an ellip-

Brendan Schaub 57:15 Sorry.

Joe Rogan 57:15 ... sort of like an elliptical machine, but you, you're, it's, you're actually doing it as a runner.

Brendan Schaub 57:21 The movement?

Joe Rogan 57:21 The movement is the same as running.

Brendan Schaub 57:23 Oh, that could be cool.

Joe Rogan 57:24 I liked it.

Brendan Schaub 57:24 I swim a lot.

Joe Rogan 57:24 I just got it here.

Brendan Schaub 57:25 Oh, well.

Joe Rogan 57:26 Try it. Try it.

Eddie Bravo 57:27 No, I'll try it.

Joe Rogan 57:27 Try it o- over here.

Eddie Bravo 57:27 I like to run outside though, I like hiking and shit.

Joe Rogan 57:29 I do too, but I mix it up.

Eddie Bravo 57:30 I have to be outside.

Joe Rogan 57:30 I mix it up with that, I mix it up with the Air Runner, which is a runner that you push yourself, you, you propel it yourself.

Eddie Bravo 57:36 That's a, that's like a Woodway, yeah. It's like a, a tank tire.

Joe Rogan 57:38 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 57:39 I'm swim- I'm back swimming though.

Joe Rogan 57:39 Tank track.

Eddie Bravo 57:40 I'm, I'm swimming every week, man.

Joe Rogan 57:42 Do you go somewhere to do that?

Eddie Bravo 57:43 Yup.

Joe Rogan 57:43 Like, do you have a s- do you have a pool?

Eddie Bravo 57:43 Y-M-C-A, baby.

Joe Rogan 57:44 Do you? Nice.

Eddie Bravo 57:45 YMCA in Burbank.

Brendan Schaub 57:46 Old school.

Eddie Bravo 57:46 I'm, I'm sw-

Joe Rogan 57:47 Burbank?

Eddie Bravo 57:47 I'm doing the exact same routine I did, uh, for the Metamoris fight.

Joe Rogan 57:51 (clears throat) You trying to lose weight?

Eddie Bravo 57:52 Trying to lose weight. Trying to get my cardio together, dude.

Brendan Schaub 57:55 Mm.

Eddie Bravo 57:55 Dude, my cardio is the worst.

Joe Rogan 57:57 Now, but what about exercises on your back? What about using like, a reverse hyper-

Eddie Bravo 58:01 I do, I do, um-

Joe Rogan 58:02 ... and using all these different things to strengthen up your back?

Eddie Bravo 58:04 No, I do. I-

Joe Rogan 58:04 Here we go, here we go.

Eddie Bravo 58:06 I do back extensions.

Joe Rogan 58:07 (sighs) $20, that's good.

Eddie Bravo 58:08 Regularly.

Joe Rogan 58:09 You guys bet?

Eddie Bravo 58:10 And, and a lot of sit-ups.

Brendan Schaub 58:11 He wanted to bet. It's, my guy's a minus 400.

Joe Rogan 58:14 Look, Davi Ramos can win this fight.

Brendan Schaub 58:15 100%.

Joe Rogan 58:16 Anything can happen, man. Davi Ramos gets you on the ground, he's a legit multiple time world champion. Legit. And he's got real fucking power in his hands. Davi Ramos is a dangerous striker, he really is. I mean, he's not like, a helpless guy on his feet.

Eddie Bravo 58:31 No, he's explosive.

Joe Rogan 58:32 He will fuck you up on the feet. I just think that Makhachev is by far the most complete fighter he's ever faced.

Brendan Schaub 58:39 Makhachev's a motherfucker, man.

Joe Rogan 58:42 He's so technically proficient. Like-

Eddie Bravo 58:44 Who has he, who has he beat? What are his biggest wins?

Joe Rogan 58:46 Well, that last guy, Arman Ts- Tsarukyan, that guy that he beat is a really young kid, he's like, 20. And he's a fucking phenom too. That guy's a future world champion as well.

Brendan Schaub 58:57 You talk to anyone around AKA though, they'll, they'll tell you this kid-

Eddie Bravo 58:59 This guy's at AKA too?

Joe Rogan 59:00 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 59:00 Oh yeah.

Eddie Bravo 59:01 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 59:01 Oh, trains with all, with Khabib and everyone.

Eddie Bravo 59:02 This guy right here?

Brendan Schaub 59:03 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 59:03 Makhachev.

Brendan Schaub 59:04 And yeah, him and Khabib go at it.

Joe Rogan 59:06 Dude, I've caught some of his fights before, man. I'm, I'm super impressed with him.

Eddie Bravo 59:09 Ooh, he's trying to take, he's trying to take Davi down.

Joe Rogan 59:10 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 59:11 I don't know if that's a good idea.

Joe Rogan 59:12 At least, at least threatening, right?

Brendan Schaub 59:13 He's like, the Sambo combat world champion.

Eddie Bravo 59:16 Yeah, but you don't wanna take Davi down.

Joe Rogan 59:17 Not healthy. I agree.

Eddie Bravo 59:18 You wanna, you wanna stay on your feet with Davi.

Joe Rogan 59:19 Well, the thing about-

Eddie Bravo 59:20 That could be a big mistake, dude.

Joe Rogan 59:21 Davi too, is, Davi's a goddamn tank. I mean, that guy's so strong.

Brendan Schaub 59:25 He's explosive, man.

Joe Rogan 59:28 Look at the back on that motherfucker.

Brendan Schaub 59:29 To me, this is the best fight besides the main event.

Joe Rogan 59:31 Me too.

Brendan Schaub 59:31 The most intriguing fight.

Joe Rogan 59:33 Yes. I've been loo- and when I found out this was signed, I was like, "Oh, yes."

Eddie Bravo 59:35 Did you, you guys, did we talk about his arm bar in Abu Dhabi? That flying arm bar he did?

Brendan Schaub 59:40 No.

Eddie Bravo 59:40 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 59:41 I've seen it though.

Eddie Bravo 59:42 Dude.

Joe Rogan 59:42 It's amazing.

Eddie Bravo 59:42 Filthy? Oh.

Joe Rogan 59:43 Oh, he's, dude, he's so good. He's so good. And he's so dynamic, like, he's so explosive, he just-

Brendan Schaub 59:49 Who, who, who's the best right now, Eddie, in like, straight Brazilian jiu-jitsu? Like, is-

Joe Rogan 59:53 Straight Brazilian jiu-jitsu?

Brendan Schaub 59:53 ... is Bucescu still...

Eddie Bravo 59:54 Marcelo Garcia's still the best.

Joe Rogan 59:56 He's still training and fighting?

Brendan Schaub 59:57 No, I'm saying com- competition.

Eddie Bravo 59:59 Oh, gu- guys that are competing?

Brendan Schaub 1:00:00 Yeah, like is Bucescu or like, Cyborg, are those guys still doing their own thing?

Eddie Bravo 1:00:03 Bucescu's fucking everybody up. Um-

Brendan Schaub 1:00:06 He's such a good guy.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:07 Uh, Felipe Pena, Gordon Ryan, um-

Brendan Schaub 1:00:10 (clears throat) I love Gordon Ry-

Joe Rogan 1:00:10 Is Gordon Ryan back from his knee surgery?

Eddie Bravo 1:00:12 Yep, yep.

Joe Rogan 1:00:12 I love Gordon Ryan.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:13 He's competing already?

Eddie Bravo 1:00:14 Yep, he just competed, uh, in some new quintet type event. I forget what it was called.

Joe Rogan 1:00:20 That's amazing, man.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:20 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:00:20 Dude, his leg was ripped apart just like, four months ago. Isn't that amazing?

Eddie Bravo 1:00:24 Oh, shit.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:26 Oh.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:26 Damn. There's so many good guys right now, dude. There's so many fucking great grapplers.

Joe Rogan 1:00:32 Right, is this, has there ever been a better time for grappling?

Eddie Bravo 1:00:35 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 1:00:35 It's really incredible.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:36 There's so many good guys, dude. They're all over the place.

Joe Rogan 1:00:39 And Craig Jones is not doing MMA, right? He's just fighting, uh, jiu-jitsu tournaments? Is that correct?

Eddie Bravo 1:00:45 Yes, he's not doing MMA. He's one of the best two, Craig Jones.

Joe Rogan 1:00:48 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:48 And of course Gio Martinez-

Joe Rogan 1:00:49 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:49 ... right there at the top.

Joe Rogan 1:00:50 Oh, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:50 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:50 PJ Barch is, uh, one of my guys. Barch, sorry, I always say Bartch.

Joe Rogan 1:00:54 (clears throat) Boogie is fighting, um...

Eddie Bravo 1:00:57 Raphael Levato.

Joe Rogan 1:00:57 Raphael Levato?

Eddie Bravo 1:00:58 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:59 Ooh.

Joe Rogan 1:00:59 Wow. That's amazing.

Eddie Bravo 1:01:00 Dude, we got a lot of bad motherfuckers at 10th Planet right now, you know?

Brendan Schaub 1:01:03 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:04 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 1:01:04 We, there was, there was just a, a super brown belt absolute tournament yesterday with all the best brown belts from around the world. And in the finals, both guys were 10th Planet guys, Kyle Bayman, Chase Hannah, so...

Joe Rogan 1:01:15 Woo, 10th Planet in the house.

Eddie Bravo 1:01:18 We may not be the best, but we're trying. (clears throat) Look at this fucking-

Brendan Schaub 1:01:23 Dude, you know who nobody wants to fuck with and you don't hear much about him because he just steamrolls everyone is Ryan Hall.

Eddie Bravo 1:01:28 Oh, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 1:01:29 He looks like an accountant, but no one wants to fuck with him.

Eddie Bravo 1:01:31 His manager's trying to get him on the podcast, we- we're-

Brendan Schaub 1:01:32 Then you know what? He's a smart dude, too.

Eddie Bravo 1:01:34 You know what, Mike?

Brendan Schaub 1:01:34 He'd be great on here.

Joe Rogan 1:01:35 Very. Very smart.

Eddie Bravo 1:01:35 Ryan Hall is- Ryan Hall is-

Brendan Schaub 1:01:37 No one wants to fuck with him.

Eddie Bravo 1:01:37 ... reminds me a lot of Fabricio Werdum, in the sense that, um, a lot of jujitsu guys, a lot of high level jujitsu guys, when they make the transition to MMA, um, you know, it- it's going to take a while to get your striking together. So a lot of guys come in and they- they get m- m... It- it's just too rough and the striking is just... They're just too far behind, so they just say, "You know what? Fuck it. I'm going to dip out and focus on jujitsu. I got plenty... There's plenty of money in, in running jujitsu schools." But then there's guys that stay, and they get their striking together because if you don't... If- if- if you... If- you remember when Fabricio Werdum, when- when he first started, he wasn't that great of an MMA fighter.

Brendan Schaub 1:02:11 It was awkward, yeah.

Eddie Bravo 1:02:12 He wasn't that great. He wasn't that great of an MMA fighter, but he stuck it out.

Brendan Schaub 1:02:16 Oh, he's so good.

Eddie Bravo 1:02:16 He stuck it out and then little by little, dude, his striking becomes legit.

Brendan Schaub 1:02:22 Dude.

Eddie Bravo 1:02:22 And that's what's going on with Ryan Hall. Ryan Hall-

Brendan Schaub 1:02:24 He doesn't really need it, though.

Eddie Bravo 1:02:25 When he fir- when- when-

Brendan Schaub 1:02:26 They don't even fuck with him on the ground.

Eddie Bravo 1:02:26 But- but that's why he's so good, because his striking is good. They can't get him match ups. They can't get close to Ryan Hall because he's-

Brendan Schaub 1:02:32 No.

Eddie Bravo 1:02:32 He'll throw head kicks at you.

Brendan Schaub 1:02:34 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 1:02:34 And he's throwing shit and he's staying on the outside. So Ryan Hall stuck it out. He didn't quit. He could have easily quit MMA and just said, "Fuck it, I'm running my jujitsu school."

Brendan Schaub 1:02:43 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 1:02:43 And made, you know, 50K a month. You know what I mean?

Brendan Schaub 1:02:45 I- I root for that guy.

Eddie Bravo 1:02:46 But he stuck it out. He stuck it out and now it's happening, you're seeing the rise of Ryan Hall right now.

Brendan Schaub 1:02:49 Kind of, they can't get him matches. He... There's no marketing.

Eddie Bravo 1:02:52 It's too s- it's too scary.

Brendan Schaub 1:02:53 It's... No, he'll rip your fucking ankle off.

Eddie Bravo 1:02:55 Yeah, because he doesn't need to take you down. Hey, this fight is heating up. Davi Ramos just clipped Islam with a big right hand.

Brendan Schaub 1:03:00 Oh, did he?

Eddie Bravo 1:03:01 Yeah. He's dangerous, man.

Brendan Schaub 1:03:04 Hey, back to Werdum, though. Werdum, top five of all time, I think. If you look at his record, what he's done-

Eddie Bravo 1:03:09 Oh, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 1:03:09 ... top five.

Eddie Bravo 1:03:09 Listen, before-

Brendan Schaub 1:03:10 He doesn't get enough credit.

Eddie Bravo 1:03:11 Before his last few fights, I would have put him at number one.

Brendan Schaub 1:03:13 I had him (bell rings) number one until he lost, yeah.

Eddie Bravo 1:03:15 Yeah. When he beat, when he beat Cain Velasquez, you got to think, "Okay, here's a guy who beat Fedor, Nogueira and Cain Velasquez." Three of the greatest of all time, submitted all of them. I mean, how do you, how do you not have that guy at number one?

Brendan Schaub 1:03:29 And- and then people forget, too, when he fought Travis Browne on Fox, it was like the third or fourth big Fox fight, that was Travis Browne in his prime. I think Travis Browne is like third in the world.

Eddie Bravo 1:03:37 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 1:03:38 And Werdum dis-

Eddie Bravo 1:03:39 Has Travis done-

Brendan Schaub 1:03:40 ... mantle him.

Eddie Bravo 1:03:40 Has Travis done... Have you talked to him?

Brendan Schaub 1:03:41 No, I don't... Me and him don't speak. I- I- I don't know. But I- I would... I think, I think he, uh, works for Ronda. I think he does... Like, manages... Helps her with, like, her merch and stuff.

Eddie Bravo 1:03:50 Phew.

Brendan Schaub 1:03:50 They're good, man. You know what I'm saying? I- I think...

Eddie Bravo 1:03:53 Yeah. Yeah. There's plenty of money, there's no need to fight anymore.

Brendan Schaub 1:03:56 No, no need to get punched in the face.

Eddie Bravo 1:03:57 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 1:03:57 But I- I think with Werdum, man, he was... People... He was so good. He was my favorite, man.

Eddie Bravo 1:04:03 His guard-

Brendan Schaub 1:04:04 I always loved Werdum.

Eddie Bravo 1:04:04 People forget that Werdum-

Brendan Schaub 1:04:05 He was so nice to-

Eddie Bravo 1:04:06 It took him a while to get going. It took him a while. It was a hard transition because when he first started, Fabricio Werdum was like... His striking was like, "Oh, shit, I got to, I got