The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - September 7, 2019
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Fight Companion kickoff: day drinking, YouTube livestream hiccups, and Abu Dhabi setting
- BSBrendan Schaub
(singing)
- JRJoe Rogan
We're live?
- BSBrendan Schaub
It should be.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is it actually happening?
- BSBrendan Schaub
It should be.
- JRJoe Rogan
All right, ladies and gentlemen, Fight Companion has started. Brian Cowan's in route. Brendan Schaub's in the house. Eddie motherfucking Bravo with the new haircut.
- JVJamie Vernon
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
I like it, dude.
- JVJamie Vernon
Thank you.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're going straight of Tong Po. You should grow a ponytail on the back of that motherfucker.
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs)
- JVJamie Vernon
(laughs) Maybe, maybe.
- JRJoe Rogan
All right, if you've never listened to this before, this is a, a podcast where we watch the fights and we talk shit. We're day drinking. It's 11:15 A.M., Eddie Bravo hasn't cracked open one yet. Here he goes.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I'm scared, I'm scared.
- JVJamie Vernon
Oh, here we go. Come on, Eddie.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I'm scared.
- JRJoe Rogan
Especially post-Epstein, there's a lot of conspiracy theories-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
... just bubbling in the surface of Eddie.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Hey, he hung himself, what's the big deal? (laughs)
- 0:41 – 3:51
Taisumov vs Ferreira: early momentum, ‘home field’ pressure, and heat concerns
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what I've been telling everybody. Mairbek Taisumov's a fucking beast, and he is about to fight Diego Ferreira. And that is an excellent fight.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Great fight.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, uh, if you've never heard these before, we just, we talk shit while the fights are going on. We kinda commentate on the fights, but not really, let's be honest.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Depends.
- JRJoe Rogan
Most of it's not. This is a very good fight. Um, Mairbek Taisumov is a fucking killer.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I'm all scared.
- JRJoe Rogan
Diego Ferreira is a very good fighter too, so this is, uh, this is a good fight. And they're in Abu Dhabi so, you know, when you think about a guy like Taisumov who's Muslim, you gotta think, uh, there, there's a lot of, a lot of pride him fighting there, but maybe a little bit of extra pressure.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Home field advantage, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
So I don't know about home field advantage, man, 'cause sometimes guys don't fight well when they're fighting in front of everyone that they love and care for.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Too much pressure and there's a lot more, uh, to worry about. Did you hear... I, I forget which journalist is cage side, but I guess the, around the cage and the mat, it's hot as fuck.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, it's hot dude.
- BSBrendan Schaub
No, but they're saying it's like unheard of hot around there. So as the rounds get going, yeah, I think, I think it could affect some of the fights. Most, most people in most teams do play better with home field advantage.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah?
- BSBrendan Schaub
It's kind of like... Yeah, it's like you have no choice. You, you, you can't, you can't, uh, uh, crumble under the pressure. It's like there's too many of your loved ones watching, you have no choice. It's like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but some people just fold, man.
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Taisumov's looking good though. Just landed a good left, uh, leg kick and a good one-two. He's, he's a solid fighter, man, but he's one of those guys that's had a hard time... I think he's had a hard time getting into the US. (clears throat) I think that's, I think he was denied visas or something like that.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I would imagine a lot of these guys on this card did. Like Khabib's dad can't get in, but he's in his corner for this fight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Isn't that crazy?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
What do they think he's gonna do? But the problem is, he's got a tie to that guy from Chechnya.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Tuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Oh, Diego Ferreira just cracked him.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Taisumov has the same barber-
- JRJoe Rogan
Diego Ferreira's-
- BSBrendan Schaub
... as Brian Callan.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Can we get the fights on this TV too, so I-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Ferreira's good, man.
- 3:51 – 4:37
Round-by-round swings: Ferreira’s pressure, Taisumov fading, and ‘heat index 123’
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, oh, oh, he's hurt. He's hurt.
- BSBrendan Schaub
It's over.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ferreira's hurt.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Ooh, really hurt.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's really hurt. He's a smart dude though. He's, he's, he's gonna, he's gonna stay away. Look, he's popping out just to make sure that, uh, he knows it's okay. That like, uh, that he's, uh, still, still a dangerous fighter but he's in, he's in real bad, bad shape right now.
- BSBrendan Schaub
What is this, 45 or 55?
- JRJoe Rogan
55 I believe. I might be wrong. Jamie will find out for us. I think Taisumov's 55.
- BSBrendan Schaub
55 for sure.
- JVJamie Vernon
He's a lightweight.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah, yeah, 55.
- JRJoe Rogan
Diego though, has Diego fought at 45 before? Maybe I'm wrong. It's hard to tell, man. There's so many fighters in the UFC now, it's just, it's so difficult to keep tracks on all of them.
- 4:37 – 18:33
UFC matchmaking talk: Diaz vs Masvidal ‘BMF’ belt and the MSG card build
- BSBrendan Schaub
Oh dude, how about Nate Mazvidal?
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoo!
- BSBrendan Schaub
Secure the bag, it's happening.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Was it November 2nd, Madison Square Garden?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes, November 2nd. And they're still working on Colby and Usman but-
- BSBrendan Schaub
They're not though, 'cause-
- JRJoe Rogan
... they don't wanna pay. Well, they are, trust me.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Well yeah, you would know.
- JRJoe Rogan
But they, they don't want to pay Colby what Colby wants. Oh, we cracked him again.
- BSBrendan Schaub
But did, but, uh, Dana said that that will be the main event, they don't wanna put a title fight above that. So then-
- JRJoe Rogan
So...
- BSBrendan Schaub
So then there's no way you'd make Colby-
- JRJoe Rogan
So Mazvidal Nate Diaz is the main event?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Uh, is that... I'm almost positive, Jim, that's what... It's five rounds, the main event.
- JRJoe Rogan
How about... Wow.
- BSBrendan Schaub
And, and Dana said he doesn't want to put a title fight above that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, if that's the case-
- JVJamie Vernon
We're live, I figured it out.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're gonna... We are live?
- JVJamie Vernon
There's this, they changed the fucking way it works now.
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs) Okay, so is it joerogan.live?
- JVJamie Vernon
Let me make sure.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Okay. And Dana's making a belt for, just for that, like the People's Champ belt.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, no he's not.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Like the street belt.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, well Da- Well, Nate says it's the baddest motherfucker in the game belt.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah, that's what, that's what he's making, that belt.
- JRJoe Rogan
You can't say that. Are you gonna say that on TV?
- BSBrendan Schaub
I don't know.
- 18:33 – 23:47
Decision anxiety and judging/production influence: replay bias and judge competence
- JRJoe Rogan
Doug Crosby. Like, for real, who is, um ... Oh, look at that, that's the end of the fight.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the end of the fight.
- BSBrendan Schaub
There's no way you get a win.
- EBEddie Bravo
Oh, damn.
- BSBrendan Schaub
There's no way.
- JRJoe Rogan
Diego won that fight.
- EBEddie Bravo
This is, this is a ... another country. You don't know what the fuck's gonna happen here.
- BSBrendan Schaub
No, absolutely not.
- JRJoe Rogan
American retired.
- EBEddie Bravo
You don't know, you don't know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Listen, they can't ... Th- there would be an embarrassment for them if they gave that to Tyson Mo-
- EBEddie Bravo
They don't give a fuck.
- JRJoe Rogan
Tyson MoF's face got beat up. See, this is early in the fight, Tyson MoF cracked him.
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs) Headbutt? Why are they showing just his highlights?
- EBEddie Bravo
Hey, that could sway judges.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Why are they showing just-
- EBEddie Bravo
Let me tell you.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is ... This is the end of the fight, this is the end of the fight. This is the first round, you see-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
... Tyson MoF coming on strong, then-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Dude, they're just showing ... Okay, they showed that, that was nice.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, but then as the fight wears on, then you see Diego come on strong. Listen, I work in a fucking production, I know how this works, dude.
- BSBrendan Schaub
They show the first round and then second, third.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. The first round was all Tyson MoF, but then the second and third f- see? Now they're showing Ferreira putting it on.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Might be a draw.
- EBEddie Bravo
(laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
They'll think him 10-8 that first round.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, look at this. Crack. It's ... Ferreira's a beast, man. Look at the numbers though.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Oh, come on, son.
- 23:47 – 27:09
From fight talk to comedy touring: Joe’s MSG standup plans and a UFC preview idea
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. I'm, uh ... We, we should all go to New York. I'm not doing, uh, a show in New York because I'm gonna do Madison Square Garden afterwards. I'm gonna do, uh-
- BSBrendan Schaub
How far afterwards?
- EBEddie Bravo
What show is that?
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, I'm gonna do Madison Square Garden in 2020, so, uh-
- EBEddie Bravo
Wait a minute. With Chappelle?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, by myself.
- EBEddie Bravo
You're doing Madison Square Garden standup by yourself?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Standup comedy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
You've done it before though, Joe.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, I did th-
- BSBrendan Schaub
But not the big one, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
I did the little arena before.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- EBEddie Bravo
Wait a minute. By yourself?
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, I'm doing some big-ass places.
- EBEddie Bravo
Damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm doing some big-ass places, so-
- EBEddie Bravo
Damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
... yeah, it's fun.
- BSBrendan Schaub
So what were you gonna say, Joe? The- that's November 2nd, so you're not gonna do one before then.
- JRJoe Rogan
... um, yeah, I'm not doing a show on November 2nd. You know, we should, we should do a podcast in New York. How about we all fly down to New York? I'll get you guys seats ringside, and the night before we just do a talk and shit podcast-
- BSBrendan Schaub
A pre-
- JRJoe Rogan
... for the fight card.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... a pre-game, like there's-
- EBEddie Bravo
Wait a minute. There's gonna be a UFC end?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- EBEddie Bravo
You're gonna do Madison Square Garden?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no, no. I'm doing Madison Square Garden a couple months later.
- EBEddie Bravo
Okay.
- 27:09 – 36:31
Ronda, WWE money, and ‘fake fighting’ fandom (plus WWE Studios rabbit hole)
- EBEddie Bravo
You think Ronda will ever come back?
- JRJoe Rogan
Nope.
- EBEddie Bravo
Never?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, I don't think she wants to. I think Ronda's a strong woman, you know? She decides she's done, she's done. She's gonna move on. I don't think she wanted to, you know, to keep doing it. I don't ... I just think, you know-
- EBEddie Bravo
You know, I think, I think-
- JRJoe Rogan
... making money off of wrestling is better.
- EBEddie Bravo
... I think when, when she came back and fought Amanda and then Amanda knocked her out, um, that must have, like, really fucked her up me- mentally. But, like, now looking back, like, Amanda's the ... she fucked up Cyborg. Like-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- EBEddie Bravo
... she would've fucked up anybody, so I'm thinking that Ronda feels a little bit better about that Amanda fight, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Maybe, yeah, well she got knocked out by Holly before that, though.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
And then got starched by Amanda.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah, but still.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, but then Amanda just knocked out Holly with a fucking head kick.
- EBEddie Bravo
But still, even today-
- BSBrendan Schaub
For sure.
- EBEddie Bravo
Even today-
- BSBrendan Schaub
But they weren't competitive. That's the problem.
- EBEddie Bravo
Even today, still, even today, if the fight's on the ground, you gotta give it to Ronda. Ronda's still better than-
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't, I don't-
- EBEddie Bravo
She's still better than-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I don't know about that with Amanda.
- EBEddie Bravo
I mean-
- BSBrendan Schaub
And she's a black belt.
- EBEddie Bravo
Amanda's a legit black belt in Brazilian Jiu-jitsu.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Legit black belt.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah, and, and-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Legit.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah, but-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Amanda's the GOAT by far.
- 36:31 – 41:51
Curtis Blaydes vs Abdurakhimov: wrestle-heavy dominance and heavyweight matchmaking
- JRJoe Rogan
So here we go. Kurtis Blades and what his homeboy's name? Say that name.Brendan.
- EBEddie Bravo
Oh, dude. Come on.
- JRJoe Rogan
Abdu...
- EBEddie Bravo
Abdurakhimov?
- JRJoe Rogan
...rahimov.
- EBEddie Bravo
Abdurakhimov.
- JRJoe Rogan
Abdu Rahimov.
- EBEddie Bravo
Ooh.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a big fella. It's Curtis Blaydes with a big shot, the deep shot.
- EBEddie Bravo
And whose mugshot is that over there?
- JRJoe Rogan
Richard Pryor.
- EBEddie Bravo
Oh, shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
The GOAT. Look at this.
- EBEddie Bravo
(sighs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Crazy. Curtis Blaydes already on his back.
- EBEddie Bravo
That boy is hairy.
- JRJoe Rogan
So you got a good picture of Christie Brinkley's ass? There must be one out there.
- EBEddie Bravo
There's-
- BSBrendan Schaub
I don't think so, dude.
- BCBryan Callen
Neither of them, uh, turn around in their ass shots. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- EBEddie Bravo
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
Neither of them turn around... (laughs)
- EBEddie Bravo
It's impossible. It's impossible.
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs)
- EBEddie Bravo
Unless you're doing, unless she's doing squats-
- JRJoe Rogan
Woo!
- EBEddie Bravo
... every other day at the Olympic Training Center in Colorado, it ain't happening.
- BSBrendan Schaub
(sighs)
- EBEddie Bravo
I'm, I'm telling you, man.
- 41:51 – 48:23
Grappling tangent: ‘Russian Bear’ Rustam, Combat Jiu-Jitsu, and 10th Planet ecosystem
- JRJoe Rogan
Boom. You know who's got the, the craziest? Is... What's that guy's name? Rustam Chiev? What's that, that guy's name? The wrestler, the grappler dude? He's star-
- EBEddie Bravo
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- EBEddie Bravo
Rustam Chimaev.
- JRJoe Rogan
Chimaev.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That guy is the hairiest man on the face of the planet. He looks like a bear.
- EBEddie Bravo
And he's one of the, he's one of the beastliest grapplers on the planet.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's a killer.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Really?
- EBEddie Bravo
Rustam?
- BSBrendan Schaub
He's a killer.
- EBEddie Bravo
Rustam picks people up and throws them across the fucking room.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Killer.
- EBEddie Bravo
All the time.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's like a giant Khabib.
- EBEddie Bravo
He's exactly-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, fuck.
- EBEddie Bravo
... like a giant Khabib. Exactly.
- JRJoe Rogan
But covered in hair.
- EBEddie Bravo
And-
- JRJoe Rogan
Is he doing MMA?
- BCBryan Callen
(clears throat)
- EBEddie Bravo
Yes. He does MMA, but he does-
- JRJoe Rogan
(coughs)
- EBEddie Bravo
I don't know exactly what he's doing now. He- he's fought in EBI. He got to the finals, and uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
And what happened?
- EBEddie Bravo
... and lost to Gordon Ryan in overtime.
- JRJoe Rogan
God, Gordon Ryan's a badass.
- EBEddie Bravo
So he got to the finals with Gordon, lost in overtime. Rustam is no joke.
- 48:23 – 50:31
Eddie Bravo’s back surgery: disc replacement, rolling limits, and recovery strategies
- EBEddie Bravo
It... You know, um, before my back surgery, the pain came from inflammation. So my b- I had no disc in my bones were rubbing together. My, my L5, S1, or whatever the fuck they call it.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- EBEddie Bravo
So what ends up happening, there's a problem there in my back, so my, my body, uh, it, it inflames, the whole lower back, just so it's, like, sore. So, I was living life with just a stiff, frozen back all the time.... finally got an MRI after years and years, finally got the back surgery. So now, there's a titanium disc in between the two vertebrae. But my body is still, you know, 'cause I'm rolling now and I don't think I'm supposed to, but, uh, I gotta fucking lose weight, and I don't know any other way-
- JRJoe Rogan
You don't think you're supposed to roll?
- EBEddie Bravo
My doc- my doctor told me, he doesn't know anything about jujitsu. And he said, he goes, "You..." (sighs) Okay. "What are you doing exactly in this jujitsu thing?"
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs)
- EBEddie Bravo
I go, uh, he goes, "Are people picking you up and slamming you?"
- BSBrendan Schaub
Jesus Christ.
- EBEddie Bravo
And I said, "No, no, no, no. No, not, they're not picking me up and," 'cause I'm always pulling guard, you know. So I didn't wanna explain that to him 'cause he didn't know what pulling guard ... I go, "No, no, no. No one's picking me up and slamming me." And he goes, "Okay, that's good. But you're not, like, twisting or anything, are you?" And I said, "Twisting?" (clears throat)
- BSBrendan Schaub
Well, my nickname's The Twister.
- EBEddie Bravo
Mm-mm. Mm-mm.
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
No, we're not twisting.
- BSBrendan Schaub
My nickname-
- EBEddie Bravo
So he goes, "As long as you don't twist, you don't wanna do anything. You don't wanna go to the gym and twist your back at all. No twisting at all." Y- you can't, you can't-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Ever?
- EBEddie Bravo
"No running, no twisting, and no squatting."
- JRJoe Rogan
No ru- no running?
- EBEddie Bravo
No squa- no running.
- JRJoe Rogan
No squatting?
- EBEddie Bravo
No squatting.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, that's bad, dude.
- EBEddie Bravo
No deadlifts. They go, "You, we don't want any compression going on in your spine at all, and no twisting." And, um-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Jesus.
- EBEddie Bravo
So what's happening is I'm rolling and my back feels the same like before surgery. Like, it still-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Hurts.
- EBEddie Bravo
... it's still inflamed, it's still inflamed. So it's, my body's going, "Something's wrong with your back." It-
- JRJoe Rogan
What, what do you think would happen if you got, like, Regenakine down there or anything?
- EBEddie Bravo
(sighs) I did that, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, before-
- 50:31 – 1:23:03
Islam Makhachev vs Davi Ramos: technique chess, betting, and BJJ meta talk (dead orchard/rubber guard)
- JRJoe Rogan
Ooh! This is the fight. Islam Makhachev, Davi Ramos.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah. Are you kidding me?
- JRJoe Rogan
This is the-
- EBEddie Bravo
Davi fucking Ramos is the shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is the fight I'm looking forward to almost as much as the main event.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah. Davi Ramos is-
- JRJoe Rogan
He is the shit.
- EBEddie Bravo
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But so is Islam. Islam is a beast, man. That guy is so good. DC said he's the heir apparent. And he said, "If you see him go with Khabib," he said, "That motherfucker is the future champion."
- BSBrendan Schaub
I've, I've heard he's an absolute monster in the gym.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. He's so complete. Everywhere, striking, ground game.
- EBEddie Bravo
I don't really know that much about Davi Ramos' standup, uh, s- uh, skills, but if the fight gets on the ground, I'm g- I'm, I'm gonna go ahead, uh, I'ma go out on a limb and say it's gonna be over quick.
- BSBrendan Schaub
You think? I don't know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Fuck off.
- BSBrendan Schaub
No, no, it's not, it's not that easy.
- EBEddie Bravo
Davi, dude, Davi Ramos-
- BSBrendan Schaub
I know, I know who Davi is. He's a monster.
- EBEddie Bravo
... that's a bad motherfucker, dude.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I don't think it's gonna be that easy, though.
- EBEddie Bravo
Hmm, I don't know.
- JRJoe Rogan
But he's won decisions, Eddie.
- EBEddie Bravo
(clears throat) What's that?
- JRJoe Rogan
Da- Davi Ramos has won decisions against guys who are not as good as Islam.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Okay. Okay. He's not so straight savage.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, uh, but may- maybe I'm wrong about that. Pull up Davi Ramos' record.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Islam, uh, he's a combat sports, uh, you know, world champion, so he's versed in grappling.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, he's so good.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Not to the-
- JRJoe Rogan
Islam is-
- BSBrendan Schaub
... Ramos' jujitsu.
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