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Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - September 7, 2019

Joe is joined by Eddie Bravo, Bryan Callen & Brendan Schaub to watch the fights on September 7, 2019.

Brendan SchaubguestJoe RoganhostJamie VernonguestEddie BravoguestKhabib NurmagomedovguestBryan CallenguestDustin Poirierguest
Sep 7, 20193h 23mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:000:41

    Fight Companion kickoff: day drinking, YouTube livestream hiccups, and Abu Dhabi setting

    1. BS

      (singing)

    2. JR

      We're live?

    3. BS

      It should be.

    4. JR

      Is it actually happening?

    5. BS

      It should be.

    6. JR

      All right, ladies and gentlemen, Fight Companion has started. Brian Cowan's in route. Brendan Schaub's in the house. Eddie motherfucking Bravo with the new haircut.

    7. JV

      Yep.

    8. JR

      I like it, dude.

    9. JV

      Thank you.

    10. JR

      You're going straight of Tong Po. You should grow a ponytail on the back of that motherfucker.

    11. BS

      (laughs)

    12. JV

      (laughs) Maybe, maybe.

    13. JR

      All right, if you've never listened to this before, this is a, a podcast where we watch the fights and we talk shit. We're day drinking. It's 11:15 A.M., Eddie Bravo hasn't cracked open one yet. Here he goes.

    14. BS

      I'm scared, I'm scared.

    15. JV

      Oh, here we go. Come on, Eddie.

    16. BS

      I'm scared.

    17. JR

      Especially post-Epstein, there's a lot of conspiracy theories-

    18. BS

      Yes.

    19. JR

      ... just bubbling in the surface of Eddie.

    20. BS

      Hey, he hung himself, what's the big deal? (laughs)

  2. 0:413:51

    Taisumov vs Ferreira: early momentum, ‘home field’ pressure, and heat concerns

    1. JR

      That's what I've been telling everybody. Mairbek Taisumov's a fucking beast, and he is about to fight Diego Ferreira. And that is an excellent fight.

    2. BS

      Great fight.

    3. JR

      So, uh, if you've never heard these before, we just, we talk shit while the fights are going on. We kinda commentate on the fights, but not really, let's be honest.

    4. BS

      Depends.

    5. JR

      Most of it's not. This is a very good fight. Um, Mairbek Taisumov is a fucking killer.

    6. BS

      I'm all scared.

    7. JR

      Diego Ferreira is a very good fighter too, so this is, uh, this is a good fight. And they're in Abu Dhabi so, you know, when you think about a guy like Taisumov who's Muslim, you gotta think, uh, there, there's a lot of, a lot of pride him fighting there, but maybe a little bit of extra pressure.

    8. BS

      Home field advantage, right?

    9. JR

      So I don't know about home field advantage, man, 'cause sometimes guys don't fight well when they're fighting in front of everyone that they love and care for.

    10. BS

      Too much pressure and there's a lot more, uh, to worry about. Did you hear... I, I forget which journalist is cage side, but I guess the, around the cage and the mat, it's hot as fuck.

    11. JR

      Oh, it's hot dude.

    12. BS

      No, but they're saying it's like unheard of hot around there. So as the rounds get going, yeah, I think, I think it could affect some of the fights. Most, most people in most teams do play better with home field advantage.

    13. JR

      Yeah?

    14. BS

      It's kind of like... Yeah, it's like you have no choice. You, you, you can't, you can't, uh, uh, crumble under the pressure. It's like there's too many of your loved ones watching, you have no choice. It's like-

    15. JR

      Yeah, but some people just fold, man.

    16. BS

      (laughs)

    17. JR

      Taisumov's looking good though. Just landed a good left, uh, leg kick and a good one-two. He's, he's a solid fighter, man, but he's one of those guys that's had a hard time... I think he's had a hard time getting into the US. (clears throat) I think that's, I think he was denied visas or something like that.

    18. BS

      I would imagine a lot of these guys on this card did. Like Khabib's dad can't get in, but he's in his corner for this fight.

    19. JR

      Isn't that crazy?

    20. BS

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      What do they think he's gonna do? But the problem is, he's got a tie to that guy from Chechnya.

    22. BS

      Tuff.

    23. JR

      Yeah. Oh, Diego Ferreira just cracked him.

    24. BS

      Taisumov has the same barber-

    25. JR

      Diego Ferreira's-

    26. BS

      ... as Brian Callan.

    27. JR

      (laughs)

    28. BS

      (laughs)

    29. JR

      Can we get the fights on this TV too, so I-

    30. BS

      Ferreira's good, man.

  3. 3:514:37

    Round-by-round swings: Ferreira’s pressure, Taisumov fading, and ‘heat index 123’

    1. JR

      Oh, oh, oh, he's hurt. He's hurt.

    2. BS

      It's over.

    3. JR

      Ferreira's hurt.

    4. BS

      Ooh, really hurt.

    5. JR

      He's really hurt. He's a smart dude though. He's, he's, he's gonna, he's gonna stay away. Look, he's popping out just to make sure that, uh, he knows it's okay. That like, uh, that he's, uh, still, still a dangerous fighter but he's in, he's in real bad, bad shape right now.

    6. BS

      What is this, 45 or 55?

    7. JR

      55 I believe. I might be wrong. Jamie will find out for us. I think Taisumov's 55.

    8. BS

      55 for sure.

    9. JV

      He's a lightweight.

    10. BS

      Yeah, yeah, 55.

    11. JR

      Diego though, has Diego fought at 45 before? Maybe I'm wrong. It's hard to tell, man. There's so many fighters in the UFC now, it's just, it's so difficult to keep tracks on all of them.

  4. 4:3718:33

    UFC matchmaking talk: Diaz vs Masvidal ‘BMF’ belt and the MSG card build

    1. BS

      Oh dude, how about Nate Mazvidal?

    2. JR

      Whoo!

    3. BS

      Secure the bag, it's happening.

    4. JR

      Yeah.

    5. BS

      Was it November 2nd, Madison Square Garden?

    6. JR

      Yes, November 2nd. And they're still working on Colby and Usman but-

    7. BS

      They're not though, 'cause-

    8. JR

      ... they don't wanna pay. Well, they are, trust me.

    9. BS

      Well yeah, you would know.

    10. JR

      But they, they don't want to pay Colby what Colby wants. Oh, we cracked him again.

    11. BS

      But did, but, uh, Dana said that that will be the main event, they don't wanna put a title fight above that. So then-

    12. JR

      So...

    13. BS

      So then there's no way you'd make Colby-

    14. JR

      So Mazvidal Nate Diaz is the main event?

    15. BS

      Uh, is that... I'm almost positive, Jim, that's what... It's five rounds, the main event.

    16. JR

      How about... Wow.

    17. BS

      And, and Dana said he doesn't want to put a title fight above that.

    18. JR

      Well, if that's the case-

    19. JV

      We're live, I figured it out.

    20. JR

      They're gonna... We are live?

    21. JV

      There's this, they changed the fucking way it works now.

    22. BS

      (laughs) Okay, so is it joerogan.live?

    23. JV

      Let me make sure.

    24. BS

      Okay. And Dana's making a belt for, just for that, like the People's Champ belt.

    25. JR

      Oh, no he's not.

    26. BS

      Like the street belt.

    27. JR

      Well, well Da- Well, Nate says it's the baddest motherfucker in the game belt.

    28. BS

      Yeah, that's what, that's what he's making, that belt.

    29. JR

      You can't say that. Are you gonna say that on TV?

    30. BS

      I don't know.

  5. 18:3323:47

    Decision anxiety and judging/production influence: replay bias and judge competence

    1. JR

      Doug Crosby. Like, for real, who is, um ... Oh, look at that, that's the end of the fight.

    2. BS

      Wow.

    3. JR

      That's the end of the fight.

    4. BS

      There's no way you get a win.

    5. EB

      Oh, damn.

    6. BS

      There's no way.

    7. JR

      Diego won that fight.

    8. EB

      This is, this is a ... another country. You don't know what the fuck's gonna happen here.

    9. BS

      No, absolutely not.

    10. JR

      American retired.

    11. EB

      You don't know, you don't know.

    12. JR

      Listen, they can't ... Th- there would be an embarrassment for them if they gave that to Tyson Mo-

    13. EB

      They don't give a fuck.

    14. JR

      Tyson MoF's face got beat up. See, this is early in the fight, Tyson MoF cracked him.

    15. BS

      (laughs) Headbutt? Why are they showing just his highlights?

    16. EB

      Hey, that could sway judges.

    17. BS

      Why are they showing just-

    18. EB

      Let me tell you.

    19. JR

      This is ... This is the end of the fight, this is the end of the fight. This is the first round, you see-

    20. BS

      Dude.

    21. JR

      ... Tyson MoF coming on strong, then-

    22. BS

      Dude, they're just showing ... Okay, they showed that, that was nice.

    23. JR

      No, but then as the fight wears on, then you see Diego come on strong. Listen, I work in a fucking production, I know how this works, dude.

    24. BS

      They show the first round and then second, third.

    25. JR

      Yeah. The first round was all Tyson MoF, but then the second and third f- see? Now they're showing Ferreira putting it on.

    26. BS

      Might be a draw.

    27. EB

      (laughs)

    28. BS

      They'll think him 10-8 that first round.

    29. JR

      Dude, look at this. Crack. It's ... Ferreira's a beast, man. Look at the numbers though.

    30. BS

      Oh, come on, son.

  6. 23:4727:09

    From fight talk to comedy touring: Joe’s MSG standup plans and a UFC preview idea

    1. JR

      Yeah. I'm, uh ... We, we should all go to New York. I'm not doing, uh, a show in New York because I'm gonna do Madison Square Garden afterwards. I'm gonna do, uh-

    2. BS

      How far afterwards?

    3. EB

      What show is that?

    4. JR

      Um, I'm gonna do Madison Square Garden in 2020, so, uh-

    5. EB

      Wait a minute. With Chappelle?

    6. JR

      No, by myself.

    7. EB

      You're doing Madison Square Garden standup by yourself?

    8. BS

      Standup comedy.

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. BS

      You've done it before though, Joe.

    11. JR

      No, I did th-

    12. BS

      But not the big one, right?

    13. JR

      I did the little arena before.

    14. BS

      Yeah.

    15. EB

      Wait a minute. By yourself?

    16. JR

      Dude, I'm doing some big-ass places.

    17. EB

      Damn.

    18. JR

      I'm doing some big-ass places, so-

    19. EB

      Damn.

    20. JR

      ... yeah, it's fun.

    21. BS

      So what were you gonna say, Joe? The- that's November 2nd, so you're not gonna do one before then.

    22. JR

      ... um, yeah, I'm not doing a show on November 2nd. You know, we should, we should do a podcast in New York. How about we all fly down to New York? I'll get you guys seats ringside, and the night before we just do a talk and shit podcast-

    23. BS

      A pre-

    24. JR

      ... for the fight card.

    25. BS

      ... a pre-game, like there's-

    26. EB

      Wait a minute. There's gonna be a UFC end?

    27. BS

      Yeah.

    28. EB

      You're gonna do Madison Square Garden?

    29. JR

      No, no, no. I'm doing Madison Square Garden a couple months later.

    30. EB

      Okay.

  7. 27:0936:31

    Ronda, WWE money, and ‘fake fighting’ fandom (plus WWE Studios rabbit hole)

    1. EB

      You think Ronda will ever come back?

    2. JR

      Nope.

    3. EB

      Never?

    4. JR

      No, I don't think she wants to. I think Ronda's a strong woman, you know? She decides she's done, she's done. She's gonna move on. I don't think she wanted to, you know, to keep doing it. I don't ... I just think, you know-

    5. EB

      You know, I think, I think-

    6. JR

      ... making money off of wrestling is better.

    7. EB

      ... I think when, when she came back and fought Amanda and then Amanda knocked her out, um, that must have, like, really fucked her up me- mentally. But, like, now looking back, like, Amanda's the ... she fucked up Cyborg. Like-

    8. BS

      Yeah.

    9. EB

      ... she would've fucked up anybody, so I'm thinking that Ronda feels a little bit better about that Amanda fight, right?

    10. JR

      Maybe, yeah, well she got knocked out by Holly before that, though.

    11. EB

      Yeah, but-

    12. JR

      And then got starched by Amanda.

    13. EB

      Yeah, but still.

    14. JR

      Yeah, yeah, but then Amanda just knocked out Holly with a fucking head kick.

    15. EB

      But still, even today-

    16. BS

      For sure.

    17. EB

      Even today-

    18. BS

      But they weren't competitive. That's the problem.

    19. EB

      Even today, still, even today, if the fight's on the ground, you gotta give it to Ronda. Ronda's still better than-

    20. JR

      I don't, I don't-

    21. EB

      She's still better than-

    22. JR

      Yeah, I don't know about that with Amanda.

    23. EB

      I mean-

    24. BS

      And she's a black belt.

    25. EB

      Amanda's a legit black belt in Brazilian Jiu-jitsu.

    26. BS

      Legit black belt.

    27. EB

      Yeah, and, and-

    28. BS

      Legit.

    29. EB

      Yeah, but-

    30. BS

      Amanda's the GOAT by far.

  8. 36:3141:51

    Curtis Blaydes vs Abdurakhimov: wrestle-heavy dominance and heavyweight matchmaking

    1. JR

      So here we go. Kurtis Blades and what his homeboy's name? Say that name.Brendan.

    2. EB

      Oh, dude. Come on.

    3. JR

      Abdu...

    4. EB

      Abdurakhimov?

    5. JR

      ...rahimov.

    6. EB

      Abdurakhimov.

    7. JR

      Abdu Rahimov.

    8. EB

      Ooh.

    9. JR

      That's a big fella. It's Curtis Blaydes with a big shot, the deep shot.

    10. EB

      And whose mugshot is that over there?

    11. JR

      Richard Pryor.

    12. EB

      Oh, shit.

    13. JR

      The GOAT. Look at this.

    14. EB

      (sighs)

    15. JR

      Crazy. Curtis Blaydes already on his back.

    16. EB

      That boy is hairy.

    17. JR

      So you got a good picture of Christie Brinkley's ass? There must be one out there.

    18. EB

      There's-

    19. BS

      I don't think so, dude.

    20. BC

      Neither of them, uh, turn around in their ass shots. (laughs)

    21. JR

      No.

    22. EB

      No.

    23. JR

      Neither of them turn around... (laughs)

    24. EB

      It's impossible. It's impossible.

    25. BS

      (laughs)

    26. EB

      Unless you're doing, unless she's doing squats-

    27. JR

      Woo!

    28. EB

      ... every other day at the Olympic Training Center in Colorado, it ain't happening.

    29. BS

      (sighs)

    30. EB

      I'm, I'm telling you, man.

  9. 41:5148:23

    Grappling tangent: ‘Russian Bear’ Rustam, Combat Jiu-Jitsu, and 10th Planet ecosystem

    1. JR

      Boom. You know who's got the, the craziest? Is... What's that guy's name? Rustam Chiev? What's that, that guy's name? The wrestler, the grappler dude? He's star-

    2. EB

      Yep.

    3. JR

      Yeah.

    4. EB

      Rustam Chimaev.

    5. JR

      Chimaev.

    6. EB

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      That guy is the hairiest man on the face of the planet. He looks like a bear.

    8. EB

      And he's one of the, he's one of the beastliest grapplers on the planet.

    9. JR

      He's a killer.

    10. BS

      Really?

    11. EB

      Rustam?

    12. BS

      He's a killer.

    13. EB

      Rustam picks people up and throws them across the fucking room.

    14. BS

      Killer.

    15. EB

      All the time.

    16. JR

      He's like a giant Khabib.

    17. EB

      He's exactly-

    18. JR

      Oh, fuck.

    19. EB

      ... like a giant Khabib. Exactly.

    20. JR

      But covered in hair.

    21. EB

      And-

    22. JR

      Is he doing MMA?

    23. BC

      (clears throat)

    24. EB

      Yes. He does MMA, but he does-

    25. JR

      (coughs)

    26. EB

      I don't know exactly what he's doing now. He- he's fought in EBI. He got to the finals, and uh-

    27. JR

      And what happened?

    28. EB

      ... and lost to Gordon Ryan in overtime.

    29. JR

      God, Gordon Ryan's a badass.

    30. EB

      So he got to the finals with Gordon, lost in overtime. Rustam is no joke.

  10. 48:2350:31

    Eddie Bravo’s back surgery: disc replacement, rolling limits, and recovery strategies

    1. EB

      It... You know, um, before my back surgery, the pain came from inflammation. So my b- I had no disc in my bones were rubbing together. My, my L5, S1, or whatever the fuck they call it.

    2. BS

      Yeah.

    3. EB

      So what ends up happening, there's a problem there in my back, so my, my body, uh, it, it inflames, the whole lower back, just so it's, like, sore. So, I was living life with just a stiff, frozen back all the time.... finally got an MRI after years and years, finally got the back surgery. So now, there's a titanium disc in between the two vertebrae. But my body is still, you know, 'cause I'm rolling now and I don't think I'm supposed to, but, uh, I gotta fucking lose weight, and I don't know any other way-

    4. JR

      You don't think you're supposed to roll?

    5. EB

      My doc- my doctor told me, he doesn't know anything about jujitsu. And he said, he goes, "You..." (sighs) Okay. "What are you doing exactly in this jujitsu thing?"

    6. BS

      (laughs)

    7. EB

      I go, uh, he goes, "Are people picking you up and slamming you?"

    8. BS

      Jesus Christ.

    9. EB

      And I said, "No, no, no, no. No, not, they're not picking me up and," 'cause I'm always pulling guard, you know. So I didn't wanna explain that to him 'cause he didn't know what pulling guard ... I go, "No, no, no. No one's picking me up and slamming me." And he goes, "Okay, that's good. But you're not, like, twisting or anything, are you?" And I said, "Twisting?" (clears throat)

    10. BS

      Well, my nickname's The Twister.

    11. EB

      Mm-mm. Mm-mm.

    12. BS

      (laughs)

    13. JR

      No, we're not twisting.

    14. BS

      My nickname-

    15. EB

      So he goes, "As long as you don't twist, you don't wanna do anything. You don't wanna go to the gym and twist your back at all. No twisting at all." Y- you can't, you can't-

    16. BS

      Ever?

    17. EB

      "No running, no twisting, and no squatting."

    18. JR

      No ru- no running?

    19. EB

      No squa- no running.

    20. JR

      No squatting?

    21. EB

      No squatting.

    22. JR

      Oh, that's bad, dude.

    23. EB

      No deadlifts. They go, "You, we don't want any compression going on in your spine at all, and no twisting." And, um-

    24. BS

      Jesus.

    25. EB

      So what's happening is I'm rolling and my back feels the same like before surgery. Like, it still-

    26. BS

      Hurts.

    27. EB

      ... it's still inflamed, it's still inflamed. So it's, my body's going, "Something's wrong with your back." It-

    28. JR

      What, what do you think would happen if you got, like, Regenakine down there or anything?

    29. EB

      (sighs) I did that, dude.

    30. JR

      Yeah, before-

  11. 50:311:23:03

    Islam Makhachev vs Davi Ramos: technique chess, betting, and BJJ meta talk (dead orchard/rubber guard)

    1. JR

      Ooh! This is the fight. Islam Makhachev, Davi Ramos.

    2. EB

      Yeah. Are you kidding me?

    3. JR

      This is the-

    4. EB

      Davi fucking Ramos is the shit.

    5. JR

      This is the fight I'm looking forward to almost as much as the main event.

    6. EB

      Yeah. Davi Ramos is-

    7. JR

      He is the shit.

    8. EB

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      But so is Islam. Islam is a beast, man. That guy is so good. DC said he's the heir apparent. And he said, "If you see him go with Khabib," he said, "That motherfucker is the future champion."

    10. BS

      I've, I've heard he's an absolute monster in the gym.

    11. JR

      Yeah. He's so complete. Everywhere, striking, ground game.

    12. EB

      I don't really know that much about Davi Ramos' standup, uh, s- uh, skills, but if the fight gets on the ground, I'm g- I'm, I'm gonna go ahead, uh, I'ma go out on a limb and say it's gonna be over quick.

    13. BS

      You think? I don't know.

    14. JR

      Fuck off.

    15. BS

      No, no, it's not, it's not that easy.

    16. EB

      Davi, dude, Davi Ramos-

    17. BS

      I know, I know who Davi is. He's a monster.

    18. EB

      ... that's a bad motherfucker, dude.

    19. BS

      I don't think it's gonna be that easy, though.

    20. EB

      Hmm, I don't know.

    21. JR

      But he's won decisions, Eddie.

    22. EB

      (clears throat) What's that?

    23. JR

      Da- Davi Ramos has won decisions against guys who are not as good as Islam.

    24. BS

      Okay. Okay. He's not so straight savage.

    25. JR

      Yeah, uh, but may- maybe I'm wrong about that. Pull up Davi Ramos' record.

    26. BS

      Islam, uh, he's a combat sports, uh, you know, world champion, so he's versed in grappling.

    27. JR

      Well, he's so good.

    28. BS

      Not to the-

    29. JR

      Islam is-

    30. BS

      ... Ramos' jujitsu.

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