Joe Rogan Experienced #1499 - Aron Snyder

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   What's up, brother? Good…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      What's up, brother? Good to see you, man. We finally did this.

   2. ASAron Snyder0:03

      Yeah, yeah. Good to see you. I, um, I- I- I had been pestered about four million times of when you're getting on Rogan's podcast. I'm like, "Why don't you ask Rogan? I don't, I don't know." So when you finally asked, I'm like, "Woo-hoo!" I was excited. I feel like I've made it. (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Well, so many people have asked me when I've worn your shirt, this, people are like, "What, what is this shirt, this RYNO shirt? What is that?"

   4. ASAron Snyder0:21

      (laughs) .

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      That's Kifaru. That's your backpack company. And, uh, because I've worn this on the podcast, people are like, "Well, when are you gonna get Schneider on?"

   6. ASAron Snyder0:28

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:28

      "When are you gonna get Schneider on?"

   8. ASAron Snyder0:30

      Uh, yeah. Yeah, I'm sure that probably gets old. I, um, have to respect the amount of people that... How many times have you changed your phone number in the last 10 years?

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:37

      Multiple.

   10. ASAron Snyder0:38

       Yeah, I bet.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Keep it moving.

   12. ASAron Snyder0:39

       Yeah. (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       Gotta keep it moving.

   14. ASAron Snyder0:41

       As mo- I might have to copy you, and I've got one-tenth of the following you do. I just, uh... It's hard to keep, keep up. And people, um, I'm surprised how sensitive they get when you don't respond to them, and it's like-

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       They get angry, yeah.

   16. ASAron Snyder0:52

       And I'm like, man... I've had guys like, "I know you're not that busy." I'm like, "Really? You really know?" (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       You don't know. (laughs)

   18. ASAron Snyder0:58

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       People get real weird with that kind of stuff when they want something. You know, it's like, you know, there's some people that'll text you, and then if you don't text them right back, they'll send you question marks, like, "Question, question."

   20. ASAron Snyder1:07

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       Like, come on, man.

   22. ASAron Snyder1:08

       Yeah. It gets, uh, it's weird trying to ... n- I, little did I know where I would end up in life compared, uh, you know, where I, kind of where I started from and then now. Well, it's, it's funny, um, my, my wife, she knew me in, we met in '07. Didn't have a phone, no computer, lived in the woods, slept on a Therm-a-Rest air mattress.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:26

       You didn't have a phone or a computer in '07?

   24. ASAron Snyder1:30

       It was bad. I, uh, you know what I think? I might've got a flip phone right around that timeframe. Um.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:34

       (laughs)

   26. ASAron Snyder1:34

       And, uh, I was sleeping on a, and, and this is a no-bullshit story, she'll tell you. I had gotten divorced and I kind of made this, you know, do whatever. I, uh, I wanted to hunt a lot, get out in the woods a lot. So I slept on a Therm-a-Rest air mattress in my, you know, you bring chicks over, they're like, "What the fuck is this?" You know?

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:50

       (laughs)

   28. ASAron Snyder1:50

       I just had this, you know, 24-inch wide backpacking air mattress, I slept on that and, uh, just saved, you know, money for whatever, hunting, getting in outdoors. And then, uh, she and I, you know, screwed around, dated for a while, and we were apart for several years, and we got back together. She's like, "Who the fuck are you?" Like, we're in Walmart, they're like, "Schneider!" And she's like, "Is that a friend of yours?" I'm like, "I have, I have no idea who that is." And sh- sh-... 'Cause she skipped all that time. And then I'm marketing and I'm wired in all the time. She's like, uh, "Are you a different person in a different body?" 'Cause I was... Not different acting, she just, you know, she, she, she knew me as the low-tech dude that just was anti-, you know, anything technology.

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:28

       So because of your podcast, like, and that's probably what it... And then Griddy Bowman before that, right?

   30. ASAron Snyder2:34

       Yeah, yeah. All, all of that stuff, forums and, you know, whatever, all that different stuff, uh, just got-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Do you... When you…

   1. ASAron Snyder15:00

      of my fat head on the back of his neck and I'm like, "Whoa," you know? It- it's one of the most intense moments of my life, you know, as far as this goes. And so, when I went to draw, I had to sweep my arrow right between his horns and drew back and shot him, you know, straight down, and he ran 50 yards and piled up.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:18

      Do you... When you eat that animal, that's gotta give you this insane feeling of accomplishment.

   3. ASAron Snyder15:23

      It is extremely, extremely rewarding. To a point, it's hard to explain in- in words because you've- you've bested the animal in a lot of ways with sure skill.a A- And I'm not saying that like I'm Billy Badass. I'm just saying, like, you have snuck into its living room-

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:40

      There's a lot of variables.

   5. ASAron Snyder15:41

      ... and you've earned it, uh-

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:42

      Yeah.

   7. ASAron Snyder15:43

      Yeah, 'cause it's-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:43

      You did it the right way.

   9. ASAron Snyder15:44

      'Cause I sh- As you know, I've shot a lot of stuff pretty far away with a compound, which I'm not embarrassed of, but, you know, it's just... Now, rather than hang that badge of honor at how well I can shoot, it's also, you know, how well I can hunt. A- And it's been an uphill road to hoe. I mean, there's been some... (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       How often do you think about, like... I mean, I- I find myself thinking about that all the time, like, I'm real lucky that I can buy food in a store because this- this is not... Even with a regular compound bow with, uh, with great binoculars and, you know, using a rangefinder and all that jazz, it's not guaranteed that you're gonna eat.

   11. ASAron Snyder16:20

       No, it's not.

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:21

       Do you- do you think about that when you're hunting? Like, what-

   13. ASAron Snyder16:23

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:23

       This is... This... It must've been insane to be one of the, you know, the American Indians on the plains.

   15. ASAron Snyder16:30

       Well, I- I... Well, you- you had Jordan on as well, um-

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:33

       Mm-hmm.

   17. ASAron Snyder16:33

       You know, whatever, the Alone guy, right?

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:35

       Yes.

   19. ASAron Snyder16:35

       Like, that dude had a- a advantage.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:38

       He was awesome.

   21. ASAron Snyder16:38

       I wouldn't want to go against him. I mean, that dude is born to live on nothing, right? So, I always stood- put things into perspective and he brought it up too, was, when things are down, right? When you're mentally or whatever drained and you- you think about it, it's like, "All right, I chose to put myself out here." You know, all the people before me, they had to hack it out with... They didn't have-

   22. JRJoe Rogan17:00

       Yeah.

   23. ASAron Snyder17:00

       ... you know, any great... They didn't have Sitka gear, they didn't have binos, they didn't have this, they didn't have that. And so, it helps motivate me for one, but I'm like... As weird as it sounds, I think of that a lot when I'm getting my ass kicked, basically. Just like, if I had to live off this thing, I would have to put in that extra effort.

   24. JRJoe Rogan17:15

       Not only that, they had to make their own bows?

   25. ASAron Snyder17:18

       (laughs) Yeah. I'm not to that level.

   26. JRJoe Rogan17:19

       I mean, that life... I mean, I- I got on this, uh, real long kick of, uh, Native American books. There's a- a guy named S.C. Gwen..., and he wrote this book called, um, Empire of the Summer Moon.

   27. ASAron Snyder17:33

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan17:33

       And it's all about the Comanches. And, you know, a lot of it talks about their lifestyle and talks about the hardships that they had to go through.

   29. ASAron Snyder17:40

       Mm-hmm.

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:41

       And, you know, mostly bow and arrow ha- bow and arrow hunting for deer and buffalo and... It's just that that life must've been insane. But then it also- it also talks about one of the main characters is this woman, uh, Cynthia Ann Parker, who was abducted when she was, uh, nine years old. And then, uh, they recaptured her, the Americans recaptured her when she was in her 30s, and she wanted to go back.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   (laughs) I don't know…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      I don't think it's impossible, but I think it's more difficult. What is that old expression? Uh, it's easier for a rich man to pass through the eye of a needle than to go to heaven.

   2. ASAron Snyder30:11

      (laughs) I don't know that one.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:12

      I think that's, uh, an ancient biblical expression.

   4. ASAron Snyder30:15

      Usually my sayings are much different than that, and I usually get in trouble for them.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:18

      (laughs)

   6. ASAron Snyder30:18

      But yeah, that... I'm sure that sounds... I'm sure that, uh, that, that makes sense. I-

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:22

      Did you just bust out your Copenhagen?

   8. ASAron Snyder30:24

      I did. Am I cool to chew on here?

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:25

      Yeah, yeah, go ahead, man.

   10. ASAron Snyder30:26

       All right, good. I have-

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       Do you need a bottle to spit it into?

   12. ASAron Snyder30:28

       I've, I, I got this here. We're good.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:30

       (coughs)

   14. ASAron Snyder30:30

       The, um...

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:31

       How often do you have to chew that shit?

   16. ASAron Snyder30:33

       It's funny you mention that about can in a half a day. Um, but-

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:36

       Cowboy gave me some once and I swallowed it.

   18. ASAron Snyder30:39

       Oh. Did you, did you puke like Luke?

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:41

       No, I didn't.

   20. ASAron Snyder30:41

       Every time Luke borrows a dip? Oh, you, you manned up?

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       I didn't p- it didn't even make me sick.

   22. ASAron Snyder30:45

       Luke puked all over yesterday and he just-

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:47

       (laughs)

   24. ASAron Snyder30:48

       ... right in the... The film crews are everywhere for the tournament and Luke is just yakking, like, uncontrollably. I'm like, "Oh, good God. Somebody get a camera on him." Jamie thinks it's funny.

   25. GVGuest (secondary voice)30:58

       I didn't even know you swallowed it.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:00

       (laughs)

   27. GVGuest (secondary voice)31:00

       Which is like-

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:01

       That I didn't know I swallowed it?

   29. GVGuest (secondary voice)31:01

       It's unbelievable to know that... Like, that's so disgusting. That's why I asked if you puked right away. Like-

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:06

       Yeah. No, I didn't puke.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   ... it's been chewing…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      your mouth?

   2. ASAron Snyder45:00

      ... it's been chewing forever. Well-

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:01

      And you swallow it?

   4. ASAron Snyder45:02

      I do, it tastes good. Maybe that's why I got so dizzy. Um, I got like a citrus one or whatever, but I just, uh, it's the first time in my life where I've been like, "Yeah, buddy, I think I might be able to quit." (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:13

      One of the stunt guys I used to work with on Fear Factor used to swallow his chew, and he told me, uh, that he learned, (slapping sound) he used to swallow the spit, you know? And he told me he learned how to do that on sets, because you couldn't just carry a, a, a bottle around-

   6. ASAron Snyder45:25

      Yeah. (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:25

      ... and spit into it, or spit into a cup.

   8. ASAron Snyder45:27

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:28

      So he just would swallow the juice, and I thought it was so fucking disgusting.

   10. ASAron Snyder45:31

       It is a disgusting habit. It's pretty bad, so... But, but yeah, I don't know, whatever, we'll see. I guess in three months if I text you and be like, "Hey, I fuckin' quit," you'll know-

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:39

       Do you drink a lot of coffee too?

   12. ASAron Snyder45:41

       No, I, I mean, I drink a decent amount of coffee. I mean, I'm a caffeine, uh, you know, I, I d- I, I, I get migraines, so I'm-

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:48

       Uh-huh.

   14. ASAron Snyder45:48

       ... 500 milligrams a day. I, I-

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:49

       Really?

   16. ASAron Snyder45:49

       ... pretty much map it out, yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:50

       So you take caffeine to avoid migraines?

   18. ASAron Snyder45:53

       No, I just know that I, 'cause I get m-... As I said that, when I got on TRT I get a migraine once every three months, I was getting 'em once a week. So-

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       Really?

   20. ASAron Snyder46:02

       ... whatever TRT did, which I have to thank you for that, right? That's... We'll talk about that in a minute, but-

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:07

       Okay.

   22. ASAron Snyder46:10

       ... I, I learned really quick seeing neuropsychologists and brain doctors, they don't know a fucking thing about the human brain. They're like, "Here, take some more pills."

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:16

       They don't? (laughs)

   24. ASAron Snyder46:17

       No. And so I literally-

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:19

       They, they don't, we're in real trouble.

   26. ASAron Snyder46:20

       Well, they're giving me these Band-Aids, and I'm like, "Look, I don't want something that fixes it after I got it. I don't wanna fucking get 'em, right?"

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:27

       Right.

   28. ASAron Snyder46:27

       Like, you know, this thing could probably take m- make my asshole turn around and start talking back to me, the fucking negatives to this pill I'm taking for my, my migraines are so bad, right? My-

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:35

       And do you... Was it one of those pills, there's some pills that you take once a week.

   30. ASAron Snyder46:39

       I just take it when I get one.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:04:20

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      pandemic has exposed weaknesses both in people's healths and in businesses' financial health." It's exposed the flaws-

   2. ASAron Snyder1:00:08

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:08

      ... in the, the way they operate.

   4. ASAron Snyder1:00:10

      No, I, I, it was an eye-opener for me and I, and this isn't, like, something to be proud of that I haven't been good at adulting for 20 years, but I just, I, I literally was like, "Oh, if I want a set of binoculars, I'll s- save up and buy binoculars."

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

      How many people contacted you to talk to you about hunting though once shit started getting weird?

   6. ASAron Snyder1:00:28

      An awkward level. And not just hunting, sustainment 'cause-

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:31

      Yeah.

   8. ASAron Snyder1:00:32

      Can I, uh, I'm not trying to name drop, but Bar-Cloe.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

      Yeah, John Bar-Cloe.

   10. ASAron Snyder1:00:35

       So John, John Bar-Cloe works with Sitka Gear and he and I are, uh, if he wasn't my brother, you would've never known. Same mentality, same thought process, same ideas on gear, and he's-

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:44

       I love that guy. He's great.

   12. ASAron Snyder1:00:45

       (laughs) We just did a podcast, he's like, "Are you sure this isn't gonna piss anybody off?" I'm like, "Fuck it, they need to hear it." Right? And so-

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:51

       What were you pissing people off with?

   14. ASAron Snyder1:00:53

       The reality of how life works living in the woods and the people that fake it basically.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

       Hm.

   16. ASAron Snyder1:00:57

       Like, you know how many people, you know, who stay out there three days and all of a sudden they're experts, right?

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:01

       Yeah.

   18. ASAron Snyder1:01:02

       The reality of-

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       Take a lot of photos.

   20. ASAron Snyder1:01:03

       Yeah, yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:04

       (laughs)

   22. ASAron Snyder1:01:04

       The, the reality of living, being able to survive and be happy, um, and then what you read and everything else, basically just, you know, talking about that. So with the...... if, okay, so everybody grabbed toilet paper, right? In third world countries, you wipe your ass with your hand. You don't worry about toilet paper. So toilet paper's gone. Wet wipes are gone. You go to the grocery store, everything that lasts forever is still there. Like, you get pasta, Top Ramen, simple stuff. It's all on the shelves. But all these things that Americans have to have ... I'm not saying I wanna wipe my ass with my hand by any means, but you don't need toilet paper to survive, right? You need clean water, right? And you need food. Um, you ... body will last quite some time, three or four weeks without food. With water it's a couple of days. And so I'm looking at all these things leaving and I have all my ... I'm not like a prepper by any means, but we, we've got prepped a house and I was, you know ... So then this came storytime for my wife where I'm explaining to her what would happen if everything kind of shit hits the fan and what's gonna happen. And Americans are so weird with the way that we think. And so I had tons of people from what kind of gun, what kind of survival stuff, firestarter, what kind of stove. So, you know, isobutane stoves, the canister stoves, that's the in thing. Everybody uses those. But a multi-fuel stove, when the world come, when the world ends, the zombies are coming, a multi-fuel stove burns kerosene, diesel, gas, white gas, burns everything. No one uses those anymore. They're a little bit heavier. But things like that, that multi-fuel stove, everyone should have one of those 'cause you can ... no matter where you go, you're gonna have some type of fuel to burn in that thing. So we, we talked a lot about that on the podcast. That was a lot of the questions I got, was, you know, sustainment basically.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:02:46

       Mm-hmm.

   24. ASAron Snyder1:02:46

       So, I mean, it's a weird world we live in, but I live, I definitely live probably in a weirder one in some ways.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:02:51

       Yeah, I mean, everybody wanted to know how to get a gun. Everybody wanted to know how hard is it to go hunting for the first time. Tho- those are the questions that I got a lot. Like, how do you get a gun was a, a big one and there was lines outside the LA gun stores. It was really crazy to see.

   26. ASAron Snyder1:03:06

       Well, my wife was worried about 'em. I'm like, "Honey, don't worry. I'm gonna take theirs." Like, don't worry. (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:03:10

       (laughs)

   28. ASAron Snyder1:03:10

       They don't know how to use it. We're good. (laughs) So-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:03:12

       Like if somebody comes trying to get your stuff.

   30. ASAron Snyder1:03:14

       Oh, well, a- a- in my ... with the local game warden, he was, uh, we texted back and forth. He was like, "Dude, you would not believe how many people are like, 'I'm just gonna go wait it out.'" Drove their asses into the mountains and set up some Walmart tent and then a snow storm hit.

Episode duration: 2:57:36