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JRE - End Of The World #2

Joe Rogan and Tim Dillon on politics, media, war, and tech collide in chaotic election night.

Tim DillonguestJoe RoganhostKyle KulinskiguestJamie Vernonguest
Jun 27, 20243h 45mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:0015:00

    (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast,…

    1. NA

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. NA

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. NA

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (instrumental music)

    4. TD

      Is it real?

    5. JR

      It's live. This is it. End of the world, part two. Tim Dillon, you savage. It's good to see you my friend.

    6. TD

      Thank you for having me. We're back.

    7. JR

      Kyle Kulinski, voice of reason, the person who actually understands politics.

    8. KK

      That's debatable. (laughs)

    9. JR

      De- it is debatable but-

    10. KK

      We'll see how much the voice of reason I am.

    11. JR

      I will say, uh, I will lean towards you knowing what you're talking about. Um, what's going on?

    12. NA

      I'm gonna check.

    13. JR

      Oh. So, do you... Do you have an opinion about how this is gonna go down?

    14. KK

      Yeah, do I, yeah, do I have a prediction?

    15. JR

      Yeah. Yes.

    16. KK

      Yes. Uh, it's very likely to be Joe Biden winning.

    17. JR

      And what, what, what makes you say this?

    18. KK

      First of all, let me just, let me just make clear so you, we don't get mass down-voted, I'm not saying that because I necessarily-

    19. JR

      Let's get mass down-voted.

    20. KK

      ... want that to happen, I'm saying that empirically I think it's very likely that he's gonna win. And the reason I say that is, I, I actually sent this to you Jaime, if you, uh, wanna pull it up, but, um, when you look at the polls, and I know, we can get into whether or not you should even believe the polls, right?

    21. JR

      Right.

    22. KK

      Because-

    23. JR

      2016.

    24. KK

      ... you don't think so, right?

    25. JR

      Well, my thing with polls, I, I even have a bit on it, is like, who answers polls? Morons. So if you're listening to morons, like 46% of morons believe this. But nobody, a normal person with like a regular life, they, "Hey Kyle, may I have a few minutes of your time to ask you about politics?" You don't say yes to that. Morons say yes to that. So the people that you're polling are almost all morons.

    26. KK

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      Or lonely, or sad.

    28. KK

      (laughs) Lonely or sad.

    29. JR

      Right?

    30. TD

      It's true. I, I wanna get polled.

  2. 15:0030:00

    Yes. …

    1. KK

    2. JR

      Yes.

    3. KK

      ... and he had like six of them sitting there.

    4. JR

      Yeah.

    5. KK

      And then when they asked him that question, which, by the way, of course, was like the first question they asked him-

    6. JR

      Yeah.

    7. KK

      ... he was like, "Listen, I'm not proud of what I said, but what I said was just words. It was just words."

    8. JR

      Locker room talk.

    9. KK

      "What Bill did was actions. What he did was actions and they're all right there. Bill, I think you should apologize to these people right here." And what you do is you flip it-

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. KK

      And you go on the offense.

    12. JR

      Yeah. Right.

    13. KK

      And then the best defense is a good offense, and then he made it a wash. The issue was now awash.

    14. JR

      But also, in his case, that is a really good argument. This is not like-

    15. KK

      Of course it's a good argument. Yeah.

    16. JR

      It's not like a regular person.

    17. KK

      Listen, listen-

    18. JR

      He's talking about Bill Clinton, who's married to Hillary Clinton, who was his opponent. So her calling him a sexual predator is rich. I mean, that, that's rich.

    19. KK

      That's right. And also, let, let's be serious. It just diverts from what we're really supposed to be talking about when we're discussing the most powerful person in the world. Tell me what you're gonna do with the economy.

    20. JR

      Right.

    21. KK

      Tell me what you're gonna do with taxes.

    22. JR

      Right.

    23. KK

      Tell me what you're gonna do with infrastructure. Tell me what you're gonna do with foreign policy. And if we're not having that conversation, I do think most Americans, there's something in them where they're just like, "This is not serious."

    24. JR

      You know what? Let me ask you this. You, you, you see, you say that he should have ended these wars, he should have disbanded the NSA. Do, do-

    25. KK

      I wouldn't, I wouldn't go that far. Just stop the spying.

    26. JR

      I don't, I don't even think it's possible. First of all, I don't think the president has that kind of power. I, I'm ignorant-

    27. KK

      Well, technically he does.

    28. JR

      ... I-

    29. KK

      Like, technically he can 'cause that's an executive agency and he controls the executive agencies.

    30. JR

      So he could literally disband the NSA?

  3. 30:0045:00

    (laughs) …

    1. KK

      I've never heard that. (laughs)

    2. JR

      (laughs)

    3. KK

      I've heard a lot of black people say, "Can I have a McFish?" and I think it's great.

    4. JR

      Well, that seems, it seems racist, but I don't think it is.

    5. KK

      (laughs)

    6. JV

      (laughs)

    7. KK

      It is racist.

    8. JR

      It's right on the edge. (laughs)

    9. KK

      There's some things as-

    10. JR

      It's right on the edge.

    11. KK

      That might be the last thing on the menu I would get, is a Filet-o-Fish.

    12. JR

      It's delicious.

    13. KK

      It's great.

    14. JR

      They're very good.

    15. KK

      Mm-hmm.

    16. JR

      They're so good, you won't want to have three.

    17. KK

      They steam the bun and make them good. No, I prefer chicken or beef like a real man.

    18. JR

      Okay. Well, I apologize.

    19. KK

      (laughs)

    20. JR

      Mm-hmm. McDonald's Steakhouse. So, you're saying that if everything's equal-... and Trump wins everything he won in 2016-

    21. KK

      Right.

    22. JR

      ... he still has a very narrow path to victory.

    23. KK

      No, so the point that I was making, and I'll explain it for people who didn't get the gist of it, but it basically... If you take the polls in 2016 and do the same sort of pro-Trump swing that happened on election day, they've done that and when you calculate those numbers, it's still Biden with 335 electoral votes. So, even if you have that same pro-Trump swing, it's still Biden winning by a fairly safe margin. Now, to get to your point about does he have a path? Yes, Trump has a path for sure, but it's basically one path and he can't afford any mess-ups along the way. So, he has to win... He has to win Florida, he has to win Pennsylvania, he has to win Arizona, he has to win Ohio, and these... Like, Ohio and Iowa are the only two swing states where he's actually up in the average of the polling. All the other ones he's down. And there's also another crazy thing going on which... And I struggle to believe this as well. I think Trump is probably gonna win Texas, but the polling right there now is they're actually dead tied. Biden and Trump are dead tied in Texas.

    24. JR

      That is the craziest.

    25. KK

      Doesn't that- Doesn't that skew, uh, bias towards Democrats because they're traditionally, um, voting earlier by mail? Yeah. So, that was another point that I was going to get to. When the votes roll in, everybody's gonna freak out at every single thing that they see. But there are some states that count the mail-ins first and when they count the mail-ins first, it's gonna look like Biden's winning in a landslide. And then there's other states that do the opposite, which is they count the on the day votes first. And the states that do that, it's gonna look like Trump is winning in a landslide. So basically, everybody has to relax until you actually get, you know, to a very high percentage of the votes counted before you really know what's going on because there's gonna be big swings throughout the night in ev- virtually every state. But I actually have the specific states if you're interested in knowing which states are gonna swing like that.

    26. JR

      Well, let's find out where we're at right now. Is there, uh, anything, Jamie, that shows us where we're at right now? Here we go. Look at that. Florida looks like Trump, Alabama Trump, Mississippi Trump. It's Trump. Trump won.

    27. KK

      Okay, so here right now...

    28. JR

      Trump is the president.

    29. KK

      It's over. He won again. So, right now-

    30. JR

      Texas is blue.

  4. 45:001:00:00

    Mm-hmm. …

    1. KK

      you can do a similar version of that by just doing a universal basic income.

    2. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    3. KK

      You know, that's Andrew Yang's idea, it's something that he's really popularized. There's other ways to go about it, recurring stimulus checks-

    4. JR

      Well, on the third night of quarantine, they had Nancy Pelosi was giving a tour of her to- like town or her house.

    5. KK

      Listen, she's the worst.

    6. JR

      And she was showing the different gelatos that she had in her freezer. This is right after 30 million people were instantly made unemployed. And Nancy Pelosi was like going, "We like the chocolate and then we like this." And it was like the craziest thing I'd ever seen and that's the party that's supposed to care. But she's-

    7. KK

      Okay.

    8. JR

      She's done so many things like that. Yeah, so many. Like she, she lied about telling people, like when people were, uh, like when the pandemic was first starting-

    9. KK

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      She was telling people, "Please go out, go to Chinatown."

    11. KK

      Yeah, they were... People were acting like total idiots and they weren't listening to the real experts early on and everything was incredibly politicized. But it, to answer your question though, from before, Trump and Mnuchin were calling for it too, Joe. They also wanted stimulus checks. The people who didn't want stimulus checks, Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell. But Trump and Mnuchin, the treasury secretary, wanted stimulus checks because listen, Trump knew, "Hey, you know, I'm kind of struggling in the polls here. I wanna throw a Hail Mary pass." One of the ways to get people to like you, you know, three weeks before an election, cut them another stimulus check. And he famously wanted his name on the checks. He said, "Put my name on the check so that when people cash it, they know that it's from me and then they're more likely to vote for me." And what got in his way was Nancy Pelosi, who wouldn't accept any deal even if it was a good deal, and Mitch McConnell who, even if Nancy Pelosi accepted the stimulus deal, Mitch McConnell would've blocked it anyway. So, those are the real ghouls because Trump wanted stimulus checks, Mnuchin wanted stimulus checks.

    12. JR

      Do they ever leave?

    13. KK

      And this is to their credit.

    14. JR

      Do they ever leave? She's 100... I mean, does she ever go away?

    15. KK

      I know, man. I know.

    16. JR

      She's spooky. When she went to that fucking, uh, beauty salon and had no mask on-

    17. KK

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      ... and then was talking about it, "They should apologize, they set me up." Like, you know, I've said this before, I'll say it again, I don't even have hair- Right. (laughs) And I knew that beauty salons were closed.

    19. KK

      Right, everyone knew.

    20. JR

      You know, you, that lady is 150 years old-

    21. KK

      The greatest-

    22. JR

      She must get her hair dyed every 15 minutes.

    23. KK

      (laughs)

    24. JR

      Yeah, the greatest story about her was there was a bird that got into her Georgetown townhouse and she had to chase this big bird out of her-

    25. KK

      (laughs)

    26. JR

      I mean, she's just this real... But the fact that she went to a place that was shut down and she wasn't even wearing a mask. Right. Like all the, uh, like, they're just hypocrites.

    27. KK

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      They don't care.

    29. KK

      Yeah. I mean-

    30. JR

      They need new leadership. You know who's been amazing? Jimmy Dore.

  5. 1:00:001:03:30

    Can I Air Drop-…

    1. KK

      depends, it depends how shitty it is, though, right?

    2. JR

      Can I Air Drop-

    3. KK

      Like, if it's actually okay...

    4. JV

      If it's even less, like slightly less, uh, I'm gonna d- go slavery.

    5. JR

      Here it is.

    6. JV

      (laughs)

    7. KK

      (laughs)

    8. JR

      But can, but can I Air Drop with the Fairphone?

    9. JV

      I'm going slavery. It's for Android, so I mean...

    10. JR

      Okay. Designed to last.

    11. KK

      I don't know if it's-

    12. JV

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      What does it say? Recycled and, uh, recycled and fair materials. 48 megapixel camera. That's pretty good.

    14. JV

      You look, you look like a punk if you have this.

    15. JR

      How dare you?

    16. JV

      You look like a punk if you pull out a Fairphone.

    17. JR

      Look at this fucking guy. He doesn't-

    18. JV

      Dude, it's horrible.

    19. JR

      He doesn't even agree with slavery, this asshole.

    20. JV

      What a horrible conversation starter.

    21. JR

      (laughs)

    22. JV

      "Oh, I have a Fairphone." Oh, you think you've stopped slavery because you have one Fairphone?

    23. JR

      Well, let's look, do they, why do they have white text on blue? It's so hard to read.

    24. KK

      But see, no, you're actually making a great point. You're making a great point.

    25. JV

      I'm making, I'm always doing that, Perry. (laughs)

    26. KK

      Because, like, it's not an individual issue. It's like when people say about climate change-

    27. JV

      I just never know when I'm doing it.

    28. KK

      It's like when people say about climate change, like, "Oh, do you drive a fucking car? Is that what you did? You drove a car to get here? Did you know that fucking climate change is happening?" It's like, yeah, asshole, and it's not like one individual can really make that much of a difference. You actually need action from a higher level, like 73% of the emissions that lead to climate change come from the same, come from... I'm sorry.

    29. JR

      They only sell outside of Europe? What does it say there?

    30. KK

      73 companies get like 100% or 90% of the emissions, some crazy stats that I'm not remembering.

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