The Joe Rogan ExperienceJRE Fight Companion - June 22, 2024
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150 min read · 30,039 words- 0:00 – 2:43
Rogan ditches the Apple ecosystem: Samsung anti-glare, Circle-to-Search, and AI summaries
- JRJoe Rogan
... trapped. I don't like being trapped in this Apple ecosystem. But I'll tell you something-
- BCBryan Callen
Hello.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Live.
- JRJoe Rogan
... this fucking phone ... We're live?
- BSBrian Simpson
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yay!
- BSBrian Simpson
(laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
It's okay. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't give a fuck. This phone does so much more. First of all, the anti-glare. The, the fact that the screen doesn't have, it has anti-glare on it, so much better. Outside, crystal clear.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Mm-hmm.
- BSBrian Simpson
You can see it.
- JRJoe Rogan
You read everything crystal clear. I fucking love this circle to search thing. So, like, if you have a cool pair of sneakers on, I can take a photo of them, do a little circle of it on my phone, and it immediately pops up on Google all the places to buy it.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Damn. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It shows you what things-
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh, really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes. Dude, it ... Here, here's another one. My notes, like, um, say if I do a, um, like, a show and I record it, it will-
- BSBrian Simpson
Write it down?
- JRJoe Rogan
... transcribe the entire set and it will summarize it for me.
- BSBrendan Schaub
That's pretty gangster.
- BCBryan Callen
What?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes. It'll summarize it for me.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
It also will summarize websites.
- BCBryan Callen
AI.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, if there's a website, you know, "Oh, what's going on in Russia?" Some crazy shit is happening. I say, "Summarize that for me."
- BSBrendan Schaub
Gives you the cliff notes?
- JRJoe Rogan
It summarizes it for you.
- BCBryan Callen
God.
- BSBrendan Schaub
God damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, it does-
- 2:43 – 3:35
Privacy skepticism, weird-smelling glass, and super-noses
- BSBrian Simpson
Can the, uh, government track you on that one too?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh yeah, they track you on everything.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Sure.
- BSBrian Simpson
All right.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's all bullshit. You, you're never getting away from the government. I don't even believe in Signal.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Say the never. Say the never glass says glass smells weird.
- JRJoe Rogan
I've been talking to these people on Sig-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Seriously.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like the guy Moxie who made Signal. What's the matter?
- BSBrian Simpson
Mm-hmm.
- BSBrendan Schaub
My glass smells funny.
- JRJoe Rogan
Your glass smells funny? What are you talking about?
- BCBryan Callen
(laughs)
- BSBrian Simpson
(laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
I just smell something. I smell something.
- JRJoe Rogan
Let me smell. Does it smell like whiskey?
- BSBrendan Schaub
No, I mean, I smell it through the whiskey.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like an old whiskey?
- BSBrendan Schaub
It smells like, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
Soap?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Like, like dirty water. Like a-
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Like somebody, like dirty mop.
- BCBryan Callen
Somebody's that smells like plasma, something weird.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're out of your fucking mind. It smells like whiskey.
- BSBrendan Schaub
No, no, no.
- BCBryan Callen
There's whiskey in your water?
- BSBrendan Schaub
I'm talking about outside the whiskey.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're crazy. We have an awesome dishwasher.
- 3:35 – 5:13
Breathing, cardio, and fighting: nose surgery lessons and mouth-breathing risks
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, when I got my nose fixed-
- BSBrian Simpson
You have to fart or anything?
- JRJoe Rogan
When I got my, uh, my deviated septum fixed, I could smell way better. I was like, "Oh my God."
- BSBrian Simpson
Forever though? 'Cause I got mine fixed and it just ... It's whatever.
- JRJoe Rogan
I think you're just accustomed to it. In the beginning, was it better?
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh, night and day difference.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrian Simpson
In the, in the beginning when you first get it fixed and you have the, the, all the-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BSBrian Simpson
... bandage up there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yep.
- BSBrian Simpson
And when they take the stitch out and pull it out, you're like ...
- JRJoe Rogan
(sighs)
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh my God.
- BCBryan Callen
My nose-
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, I didn't get my nose fixed until I was 40 years old. For 40 fucking years-
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah. When you're walking around like this.
- JRJoe Rogan
... I had a shattered nose with just, the whole inside of it was blocked. It was nothing. I had like one quarter of one nostril that was useful.
- BCBryan Callen
And that surgery is real fun, isn't it?
- BSBrian Simpson
Is it better?
- JRJoe Rogan
With-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah, definitely.
- BSBrian Simpson
Well, look at, uh, Dricus du Plessis.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- BSBrian Simpson
'Cause I called bullshit when his coach was like, "He's only breathing 8%." I'm like, "Come on, man."
- JRJoe Rogan
Not 8%. That's, that's-
- BSBrian Simpson
That's why he's ... You know, it's ridiculous. But I was like, "Come on, that's not a cardio thing." And they're like, "Wait til you see him in his next fight, his cardio's gonna be better."
- JRJoe Rogan
Way better. My cardio was way better.
- BSBrian Simpson
Way better.
- JRJoe Rogan
My cardio was at least 10% better when I got my nose fixed.
- 5:13 – 9:54
Smelling salts chaos and nicotine pouches: the “freshie” experience
- BSBrendan Schaub
Speaking of which, where's those smelling salts?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, we got them.
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh, yeah, we can have them.
- JRJoe Rogan
What are you ... You ready to go back?
- BSBrian Simpson
Literally, bro, it's your first Companion, huh?
- JRJoe Rogan
You ready to go back in?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Joe had the funniest reaction ever to smelling salts 'cause we opened up a fresh Ah, one of the fresh ones.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I love it.
- JRJoe Rogan
And as soon as he opened up-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Oh, yeah. I know about that shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
... he threw his headphones off and ran out of the room.
- BCBryan Callen
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
If you do it now, there's not a lot of room to run. You're gonna have to have an issue.
- BSBrian Simpson
Don't run over the fucking TV.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, we got a freshie. We got a freshie.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Is that Ah?
- BCBryan Callen
Ugh.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Mmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, this one hasn't been opened.
- BCBryan Callen
No, thank you.
- BSBrian Simpson
Nothing better, dog.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, thank you.
- BCBryan Callen
Ugh.
- BSBrian Simpson
What do you mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
You're, you, you're getting in, bro.
- BCBryan Callen
I hate those things.
- BSBrian Simpson
Bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
Of course you hate it. Everybody hates it. I hate it too, but I'm, I'm about to do it. That's fucking-
- BSBrian Simpson
You gotta do it, B.
- 9:54 – 11:46
Creativity, substances, and Stephen King: does drug use “open doors”?
- BCBryan Callen
A lot of, a lot of great m- books were written on cigarettes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
You know?
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah, nicotine's great.
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, Stephen King says that.
- BSBrian Simpson
And the studies.
- JRJoe Rogan
Stephen King said when he stopped smoking cigarettes, it was one of the biggest issues. Like, stopping cocaine and drinking was fine.
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But cigarettes, like, he was like, "Ooh."
- BSBrian Simpson
His books got super boring.
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But they didn't, they weren't as good.
- BSBrian Simpson
(laughs)
- BCBryan Callen
He said, he said that he doesn't remember writing Cujo.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's why it's so good.
- BCBryan Callen
Yep. And then he said this. He came, he came, his wife came in. And she said, you know, started cleaning up cans. And he goes, "God, I kept cans, fucking cans everywhere." He goes, "How long, when was the last time we cleaned this place?" And she goes... And it was literally the whole place was covered with beer cans. And she goes, "This is the past three days." And he was like, "I'm drinking a lot." He didn't even realize it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, well-
- BCBryan Callen
Damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
... if you wanna be good...
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... do you wanna really write the kind of shit that he wrote when he was young? You gotta push that motherfucking envelope.
- BCBryan Callen
Well, he actually said-
- BSBrian Simpson
You can't do anything in moderation.
- BCBryan Callen
No, no. No, he said, he actually in his book said, "I was a very creative guy who had a substance abuse problem. It's not that I had a substance abuse problem and therefore I was creative." He said, "Don't get it twisted, 'cause I always had a great imagination, but I just, like anything." Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I don't know. I'm, I am of, of a belief that it helps you.
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I really am.
- BCBryan Callen
I'm not. Uh, but I do think that it's a personality type, so it might go hand in hand, right? With an extreme... Sort of, you know, it, it all comes together, maybe. Maybe people who are imaginative.
- JRJoe Rogan
I think it opens up doors in your imagination that will stay closed.
- 11:46 – 17:23
Fight Companion begins: Volkan Oezdemir vs Johnny Walker — quick KO and career questions
- JRJoe Rogan
So here we go. Uh, first fight, Volkan Oezdemir and who's he fighting? Johnny Walker, ooh.
- BSBrian Simpson
Johnny Walker in a hell of a fight. Dude, be- the odds are even on this. The oddsmakers went, "Somebody's getting knocked out."
- JRJoe Rogan
Johnny Walker can knock out anybody.
- BCBryan Callen
How does he get down to 205, please?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's so hard to believe. He's-
- BCBryan Callen
66.
- JRJoe Rogan
... so big. When you stand next to him, he's massive.
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, he easily could be a heavyweight.
- BCBryan Callen
Easily.
- BSBrian Simpson
Dude, I want... It'd be fun if Johnny Walker wins this one. Could you imagine him and Alex?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- BSBrian Simpson
That's a motherfucking fight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but is that possible?
- BSBrian Simpson
Why not?
- BCBryan Callen
He got the Neanderthal forehead.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, he's a big fella.
- BCBryan Callen
I have a question.
- BSBrian Simpson
Why not, Joe?
- JRJoe Rogan
Because I don't think he's won enough. I don't think any... it's compelling. I mean, he would have to beat like a Jamal Hill.
- BSBrian Simpson
Correct.
- JRJoe Rogan
He would have to beat a Jiri Prochazka.
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh no, oh no, oh no. I'm, I'm not saying next. I'm saying I hope he wins and continues to win.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrian Simpson
He's about two away from it. At light heavyweight, you win two big fights, you're there, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right. It's like one step below heavyweight.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right? Like, look at Yuri. He won one fight, now he's back.
- BSBrian Simpson
Boom. Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- 17:23 – 18:55
Conor McGregor’s broken pinky toe: why pulling out makes sense, and what Chandler should do
- BSBrian Simpson
Did you, uh, you see Conor's injury?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrian Simpson
Thoughts?
- BCBryan Callen
What was it?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well...
- BSBrian Simpson
Pinky toe.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's exactly what Pereira had when, when he beat Jamahal Hill. He had a broken toe too.
- BSBrian Simpson
A lot of guys have had a... Now it's the pinky toe. A lot of guys... I fought with a broken pinky toe.
- JRJoe Rogan
I knew about it, uh, in advance. Look, here's the thing about a broken pinky toe. When you're a guy who kicks as much as Conor, it's a fucking problem.
- BSBrian Simpson
100%.
- JRJoe Rogan
And it's also the same foot where his leg was snapped and he went into that fight injured. He's never pulled out of a fight before.
- BSBrian Simpson
Never.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is the first one he pulled out of. And I think it's wise, because I think if you do have a broken toe and you are going into a fight and you did go into a fight the last fight injured, what if that fucking toe becomes a real issue? Like, what if he throws a kick and it smashes again and he's in agony and he can't move?
- BSBrian Simpson
I thought you and I were gonna disagree on this. I, I couldn't agree more.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrian Simpson
'Cause l- and you gotta realize what's on the line for Conor too.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- BSBrian Simpson
Like, he loses this one, the, the ride's over.
- JRJoe Rogan
Also, you gotta be able to-
- BSBrian Simpson
So, so why, so why risk it?
- JRJoe Rogan
You gotta be able to get the fuck out of the way with Michael Chandler.
- BSBrian Simpson
Chandler? You fuck... Yeah. So you're, you're not gonna go compromised-
- JRJoe Rogan
Get the fuck out of the way.
- BSBrian Simpson
... and it's the leg that's already fucked up.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- BSBrian Simpson
Like, you wanna, you want your best foot forward, no pun intended.
- BCBryan Callen
And he spends a lot of time boun- like, bouncing on his toe.
- BSBrian Simpson
Big time.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- BSBrian Simpson
That, that, that, that's his biggest asset against Chandler.
- 18:55 – 22:13
Diet Coke, marketing psychology, and nutrition: Bernays, “freedom torches,” and bacon debates
- JRJoe Rogan
Di cokes? Dude, I'm addicted.Oh, okay. I'll take one of those.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Well-
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah, boys.
- JRJoe Rogan
We got more?
- BSBrendan Schaub
I don't... I mean-
- BSBrian Simpson
The only person who drinks more Diet Coke than me and Brien-
- BCBryan Callen
I'm gonna le- I'm gonna miss the cool kids are doing it, and then I'll drink it. I never drink Diet Coke, but just to be a part of this group.
- BSBrian Simpson
Why don't you drink Diet Coke?
- BCBryan Callen
I don't know. I just don't.
- BSBrian Simpson
Are you scared of aspartame?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's not... It's not... It's not...
- BSBrian Simpson
You think it's fucking poison? I disagree.
- BCBryan Callen
So, the guy... I just have... My temple's super pure.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I don't... I love Diet Coke.
- BCBryan Callen
I scrub my temple clean.
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh, yeah, dude, we're gonna get along, brother.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- BSBrian Simpson
We're gonna get along.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I love this Diet Coke. You know they fucking... (clears throat) That they, they tried to make a... They tried to remake it to taste just like Coca-Cola.
- BSBrian Simpson
Talking about Coke Zero?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
And did you know that they wanted-
- BSBrendan Schaub
That's why Coke Zero came about. They tried to make a better Diet Coke-
- BSBrian Simpson
No.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... but people had already left f-... liked the flavor of Diet Coke, so they had to...
- BSBrian Simpson
Coke Zero doesn't bother me.
- BCBryan Callen
I like it.
- BSBrendan Schaub
No, but I-
- BSBrian Simpson
It's kinda the same.
- BSBrendan Schaub
... I could tell the difference.
- 22:13 – 27:37
Card shakeups and matchup talk: MVP vs Ian Garry, rankings logic, and the business side of title shots
- JRJoe Rogan
How about this Anthony Smith, Roman Dolidze fight? Like, how much has that card changed? You know? It was supposed to be Jamahal Hill, Khalil Roundtree. Khalil Roundtree falls out, and then Jamahal Hill's gonna go out against Carlos Herber-... Ulberg. I'm like, "Woo, I love that."
- BSBrian Simpson
Fun fight.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then Jamahal hurts his knee, and then Carlos Ulberg, for some reason, is out. Why was Ulberg out?
- BSBrian Simpson
And he... I, I don't know. And then, he's supposed to fight Anthony Smith.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yup.
- BSBrian Simpson
And Anthony Smith stays, and now he's fighting homeboy.
- BCBryan Callen
So...
- BSBrendan Schaub
Have I not been paying attention?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
When did Michael Page get in the UFC?
- BSBrian Simpson
Recently.
- JRJoe Rogan
Recently.
- BSBrian Simpson
He had one fight.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Oh, okay.
- BSBrian Simpson
He had one fight.
- BCBryan Callen
That's gonna be a great fight.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's another great fight.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Oh. Oh, I can't wait.
- BCBryan Callen
I can't wait for that.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah. Look at this.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I wanna... I wanna see if he gets away with all the shit a- at this level.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, he's gonna fight Ian G-... Ian Garry-
- BSBrian Simpson
Who's a motherfucker.
- JRJoe Rogan
... who's really tall and really... but I don't think he's gonna be able to hit that dude.
- BSBrian Simpson
You, you don't think Ian Garry will?
- JRJoe Rogan
Michael Venom Page? No.
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh, I disagree.
- JRJoe Rogan
Michael Venom Page is a different thing.
- BSBrian Simpson
Oh, he'll put his lights out.
- JRJoe Rogan
You think so?
- 27:37 – 33:09
Joe’s Leon Edwards story + ‘wrong guy’ bar karma: the Joe Schilling video breakdown
- JRJoe Rogan
Did I ever tell you the time... I think I've, I've told it on the podcast before, but I ever tell you the time that, uh, there was this dude that was... I don't wanna say who he worked for, but he was a bodyguard and he talked shit to Leon Edwards when Leon was with me. I brought Leon to a show. Leon did my podcast, then I brought Leon, we went and did a show at Chappelle, me and him were hanging out, and then afterwards, we all went out to this club, this, uh, like after hours party that, uh-
- BSBrian Simpson
Like a night club?
- JRJoe Rogan
... Dave, David set up.
- BSBrian Simpson
Okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
David s- Dave sets up these show... Like, he does his shows and after the shows, he likes to set up a party. So he has like a DJ, he brings in food, it's a fun hang. But it was at the end of the night, and this guy decided he was gonna kick everybody out. And for some reason-
- BSBrian Simpson
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... he singled out Leon Edwards and he got in his face.
- BSBrian Simpson
That's fantastic.
- JRJoe Rogan
And he said like, "Hey man, I fucking told you it's time to leave."
- BSBrian Simpson
Fantastic.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then I got in between them, I said, "I know you probably made some fucked up mistakes in your life, you're about to make the biggest one."
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs)
- BSBrian Simpson
Did you say, "You know who that is?"
- JRJoe Rogan
I, exactly what I said.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I said... I pulled him aside-
- BSBrian Simpson
And what'd he do?
- JRJoe Rogan
And he, he like went like a ghost. I go, "That's one of the baddest motherfuckers on the planet."
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
"You're about to make one of the biggest mistakes of your life."
- BSBrian Simpson
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I go, I go, "He's cool. There's no reason to talk to him like that. He didn't do anything wrong. He doesn't know you're here with me."
- BSBrendan Schaub
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
And he's like, "I'm sorry, I'm sorry."
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah, if he-
- JRJoe Rogan
Like he chilled out. (laughs)
- BSBrian Simpson
If you want-
- JRJoe Rogan
After he sees him knock out Kamaru Uson, he's like, "Oh, no."
- BSBrian Simpson
Not again. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
His wife passed before his eyes when he was watching it on TV.
- 33:09 – 40:03
‘Hawk tuah’ viral fame and meme economics (and then: Shara Bullet’s one-eye reality)
- JRJoe Rogan
Unless you have a quick draw. Did you see the, uh, uh, you got a Hokutui spit on that thing.
- BSBrian Simpson
(laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yo. She's famous now.
- BSBrian Simpson
That girl, that girl...
- JRJoe Rogan
That girl, one vid... Have you seen, Brian?
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah. Hokutui.
- JRJoe Rogan
One, one girl gets interviewed and it's just... I love moments like that where one weird video. It's so funny that the whole world sees it.
- BSBrian Simpson
She's the most famous person on the planet right now.
- BSBrendan Schaub
So the one, the one I saw on Instagram, the, the top comment underneath it is a, is another woman being like, "Nobody needs... You don't have to spit on it." And then it, and then just a thousand views. It's like, "Somebody taught you wrong, bitch."
- BSBrian Simpson
(laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
"Keep on telling the truth. Spit on it."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Especially the way she says it. Like that lady-
- BSBrendan Schaub
That's so good.
- JRJoe Rogan
She's not, she's not pretending.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah. She sounds like she, like she passed... Like she got a certificate.
- JRJoe Rogan
She's not posing. That lady's a black belt in spitting on dicks.
- BSBrian Simpson
But also, also... I, I, I wouldn't be that into a girl going (gags) .
- JRJoe Rogan
I would be into her.
- BSBrian Simpson
(laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
The way... With her enthusiasm?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah, she's cool.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, you would if she did it.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I know some real passion there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
But if you hear, if you hear a girl go (gags) , you're not gonna be like, "Wait a minute, hold on."
- BSBrian Simpson
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Let's see it, Jamie.
- BSBrian Simpson
I'm trying to find the good version.
- 40:03 – 45:22
Shara Bullet vs ‘Charcolee’: takedown-defense concerns, highlight striking, and the finish
- JRJoe Rogan
So Charcolee just wants to take him down. Sharbulut has terrible takedown defense, and-
- BSBrian Simpson
That's his liability, yeah?
- JRJoe Rogan
... also doesn't get up well. And even in his UFC debut, he got, he got battered on the ground.
- BSBrian Simpson
Bro, how about the main event was about to be Bo Nickal, but he was hunting in Montana-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrian Simpson
... and didn't have an Android phone like you guys-
(laughs)
... and had no service.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hm, yeah. Interesting.
- BSBrian Simpson
He was gonna take that fight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Interesting. I don't... I would not have advised that at this point in his career.
- BSBrian Simpson
I wouldn't either, but he was down to do it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. He's struggled a little bit with Cody Brundage, and Cody Brundage is nowhere near where Robert... Robert Whittaker will change your fucking life.
- BSBrian Simpson
Well, Robert Whittaker might be the best 185er on the planet.
- JRJoe Rogan
Eh.
- BSBrian Simpson
It's, it's up, it's up for debate.
- JRJoe Rogan
Eh.
- BSBrian Simpson
He's up there, top three.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, how do you say that when, when-
- BCBryan Callen
Uh, Sonya would say different.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, Drakas. Drakas beat the shit out of him in one round.
- BSBrian Simpson
Drakas beat him.
- BCBryan Callen
Yep.
- BSBrian Simpson
He's fucking good though though though.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's very good.
- BSBrian Simpson
And he was a former world champion.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- BSBrian Simpson
Like, he was number one at the time.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's certainly in the top five.
- BSBrian Simpson
He'd just beat Paulo Costa.
- 45:22 – 59:30
Peptides, TRT, and USADA era shifts: Hendricks, Marquardt, BALCO, and ‘too good to allow’ science
- BSBrian Simpson
You know- you know- you know who I fuck with now? And- like, I'm- I'm in, shit, probably the best shape since I- I fought, is that Transcend, with, like, peptides, TRT. They do-
- JRJoe Rogan
What's Transcend? It's a company?
- BSBrian Simpson
It's a company and they, like- they're- you do your blood work, like, probably at least every two weeks, every three weeks. And they monitor everything. They're like, "You should be taking this, this, this, and this."
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BSBrian Simpson
And they- it's a scripture plan. They send it to you.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, nice.
- BSBrian Simpson
You just start taking everything, then they check your blood work. Like, that's what Cowboy's on, Bradley Martin.
- BCBryan Callen
Mm.
- BSBrian Simpson
Like, all the- like-
- BCBryan Callen
Peptides, I hear, really- I had a doctor cut it in half.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what I do. I hear with the ways to wealth. Same deal. Ways to wealth exactly. Peptides?
- BSBrian Simpson
I've never felt better. I've never felt better.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah. Plenty of peptides.
- BCBryan Callen
What- what do you need?
- BSBrian Simpson
They- they have stuff for your cognitive, like, for- you know, for me, I need my fucking brain to get- after getting punched. So, cognitive, energy, everything.
- BCBryan Callen
'Cause, uh, I had a doctor, he looked great, 65, he's a friend of mine, Jeff. He shows up at my show and I was like, "What are you doing?" He goes, "Peptides."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, peptides are incredible.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's why they keep outlawing 'em. The FDA keeps-
- BCBryan Callen
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, they got rid of thymosin 'cause it was helping people get over COVID.
- BSBrian Simpson
That's how you know they're good.
- JRJoe Rogan
No reason for it- to get rid of it. Now they're trying to get rid of BPC 157. No reason. They're stocked up on it.
- BCBryan Callen
That- that should fix my stomach.
- JRJoe Rogan
BPC 157?
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- BSBrian Simpson
Yeah. Shit's magic.
- JRJoe Rogan
This fight is interesting.
- BSBrian Simpson
Now I'm a guinea pig, I shoot myself about seven times a day, but whatever.
- JRJoe Rogan
As long as you feel good.
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