JRE Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   ... thing that I…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      ... thing that I told you about the-

   2. BSBrendan Schaub0:01

      God, Joe is the best.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      Hey, we're up, we're up, we're up, we're up. Uh, it's not a good sign that the fights are still going on for the prelims. That must mean there's a lot of decisions.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub0:10

      Lot of prelims.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      Lot of prelims, but also a lot of decisions. Like, usually they time it out better, 'cause it's like 3:04 now and this is 1:37 to go in the third round of Jai Herbert.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub0:21

      Not ideal.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      No. But, you know, shit happens.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub0:24

      Shit happens.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      At least, at least they're not doing it at five o'clock in the morning.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub0:27

       True. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       That was, that was fucking ridiculous. If I was Leon, I'd be pissed.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub0:32

       What time was it in the UK when this happened?

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       It's normal time. It's, uh, you know-

   14. BSBrendan Schaub0:35

       They're seven hours ahead, yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Yeah. So it's nighttime there.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub0:37

       Yeah, so it's their normal time.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       So it's like 10:00 PM right now, it's normal. Are they six hours ahead or seven hours ahead?

   18. BSBrendan Schaub0:42

       I thought it was seven.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       Something like that. Um, but either way it's nighttime there.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub0:48

       Have you- have you seen any of these guys fight before?

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Yeah. Jai Herbert's the guy that head kicked Ilia Topuria. He dropped-

   22. BSBrendan Schaub0:53

       Knocked him out?

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       He dropped-

   24. BSBrendan Schaub0:54

       No, he got in the middle.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       With a vicious head kick and then Ilia fucking starched him in the next round.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub0:58

       Yeah. He has great striking. Great striking.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       Yeah. Very, very good kicks.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub1:02

       Big prospect.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       Real tall, long, lanky dude. But, you know, Ilia, that guy, he connects on anybody they're going night-night.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub1:08

       Oh, Joe, you pr- if you knew, I know you can't probably talk about it, but do you see Ilia's tweet where he's like, "I'm gonna have big news, you guys aren't expecting it."
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Did you get it…

   1. BSBrendan Schaub15:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      Did you get it fixed or no?

   3. BSBrendan Schaub15:01

      Nah, man.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      You don't have to get it fixed? Is it a small tear?

   5. BSBrendan Schaub15:04

      Yeah, it's a small tear.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      Oh, okay.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub15:05

      I've just been injecting fucking peptide-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      BPC?

   9. BSBrendan Schaub15:08

      You name-

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:08

       Yeah.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub15:08

       ... something. Just fucking... (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:09

       Oh, yeah.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub15:10

       Dude, fucking back to it.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:11

       Bro, BPC 157 with the TB 500 is amazing.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub15:15

       The best.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:16

       Amazing.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub15:17

       I started taking, uh, blue scorpion venom shit.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:19

       What?

   19. BSBrendan Schaub15:20

       Yeah, some scorpion venom.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:21

       What, what are you doing?

   21. BSBrendan Schaub15:21

       Some ve-... I don't know, name something.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:23

       (laughs)

   23. BSBrendan Schaub15:23

       (laughs) Anything someone offers me, I'm like, "I'll try it out."

   24. GUGuest15:26

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:26

       Like, the name of... The brand name is Venom or actual venom?

   26. BSBrendan Schaub15:29

       It's Blue Venom. They take venom and, and then put peptides with it.

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:32

       From who? Like snake? What?

   28. BSBrendan Schaub15:33

       From, from a fucking scorpion.

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:35

       Oh, shit. (laughs)

   30. GUGuest15:35

       What?
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Gordon, in your opinion,…

   1. GRGordon Ryan30:00

   2. GUGuest30:00

      Gordon, in your opinion, what's the best leg lock for MMA? Best leg lock position? You're training someone, he wants to learn leg locks. What do you think?

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      Um, well, for you guys, it'd be called the honey hole. But for us, cross hashi garami.

   4. GRGordon Ryan30:14

      Or inside sangoku?

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:15

      Yeah, inside sangoku. Yeah. Um-

   6. GRGordon Ryan30:17

      That's- that's the best one you think?

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:19

      Um, one of them.

   8. GRGordon Ryan30:20

      And then what do you think about putting it on the outside and going Z-lock?

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:23

      That's great too. Um, so-

   10. GRGordon Ryan30:24

       It seems like anything on the outside, it turns the guy and he really can't hit you. 'Cause really it's about being, uh, uh, safe from strikes.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:31

       Yeah, of course, yeah.

   12. GRGordon Ryan30:32

       And 50/50, I think everyone agrees-... it, you see 50/50 in MMA and it works, but you can still reach the guy's face.

   13. GUGuest30:38

       (laughs)

   14. GRGordon Ryan30:38

       But you can't really hit him that hard.

   15. GUGuest30:40

       50/50, 50/50 you can get hit, uh, outside ashi garami, or you guys call double outside.

   16. GRGordon Ryan30:45

       That's the worst one.

   17. GUGuest30:45

       Can get hit.

   18. GRGordon Ryan30:46

       Yeah, yeah, that's the worst one.

   19. GUGuest30:46

       Um, but any, like, inside shinkaku or if you pass, like, across to, we call it inside ashi garami, where you have the, that's how I finished Nicky Rod where you have the legs triangled inside, but the legs pass th- to the outside so you have an outside heel hook. Um, that's great, but because everyone's breaking mechanics are not up to par on outside heel hooks, it's harder to get catastrophic breaks on outside heel hooks. So for MMA, if you have good breaking mechanics, like Paul Harris finished a lot of, uh, outside heel hooks, but his breaking mechanics were pretty good.

   20. GRGordon Ryan31:17

       Yeah.

   21. GUGuest31:17

       Um, the legs inside with the foot outside is best. Um, otherwise just keep the foot on the other side and go for the inverted.

   22. GRGordon Ryan31:25

       So if this leg was reaping, this foot would be on the outside, right? Like this?

   23. GUGuest31:30

       Yeah, so you have an outside heel hook.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:32

       Yeah.

   25. GRGordon Ryan31:32

       We call that the Indian.

   26. GUGuest31:33

       Yeah.

   27. GRGordon Ryan31:33

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:33

       For s- yeah, exactly.

   29. GUGuest31:34

       That's actually, that's Gary heel hooking Paul Harris.

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:35

       On the inside. Yeah. Yeah.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   He's so big. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

   2. BSBrendan Schaub45:00

      He's so big.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      So big for 5-

   4. GRGordon Ryan45:00

      I haven't been, I haven't seen him in person.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub45:02

      Oh, that's awesome.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:03

      Oh wow.

   7. GRGordon Ryan45:03

      I said that, I said that to Alex when I was like a jacked 230 and he like dwarfed me.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub45:06

      (laughs)

   9. GRGordon Ryan45:06

      I'm like how does this guy cut to 80?

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:08

       Isn't it wild?

   11. GRGordon Ryan45:08

       Like he was bigger, on every metric he was bigger. He was longer, he was thicker, like it was just...

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:13

       They say he fought with a broken hand and norovirus, against Ankalaev. He fought with a broken toe before. When he beat, um, uh, Jiri Prochazka he had a fucked up knee. Like remember when he went and he tumbled at the end of the fight?

   13. BSBrendan Schaub45:27

       Yep.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:27

       That's because his knee doesn't, wouldn't support him. He was basically fighting on one leg in the first fight. Then he gets surgery. I guess it was probably meniscus 'cause he came back pretty quick. Walk-around weight 231. That's crazy.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub45:40

       Stacked dude.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:41

       And he looks 231. When you stand next to him, he looks like a heavyweight.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub45:44

       He can go up 205.

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:45

       Oh easy.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub45:46

       Easily.

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       Easy 205 and-

   21. BSBrendan Schaub45:47

       He has the strength for it too.

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:49

       ... bully people.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub45:49

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan45:50

       Yeah.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub45:50

       Get you some.

   26. JRJoe Rogan45:51

       He's a scary dude.

   27. BSBrendan Schaub45:52

       He's gonna be a problem.

   28. JRJoe Rogan45:52

       'Cause he confused everybody. Everybody's like, "Oh this guy's all awkward and shit. He's gonna get pieced up." Nope.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub45:58

       Especially, like w- you know we watch so many fights, I'd see a style and I'm like, "Oh he's going to get exposed eventually."

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       Well I think also-
5. 1:00:00 – 1:01:35

   So you go through…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

   2. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:01

      So you go through the, the reports-

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

      Bro.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:03

      ... and they're like, "Yeah, he made me suck on his balls." You're like, "He didn't have balls."

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:06

      Well, that's a problem.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:08

      Whoa.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:09

      There's a lot of problems. The lady was a grifter. The lady, allegedly.

   8. GUGuest1:00:13

      That's brutal.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

      And was going back and forth from rich guy to rich guy, trying to get things happening and Harvey put her in a few things. That was Harvey's move, apparently.

   10. GUGuest1:00:21

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

       He put you in a few things and ... But, like, Whitney told me that he would make deals with ladies. Like, uh, "Look, suck my dick, I'll get you an Oscar."

   12. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:28

       Yeah, be a Batman.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

       And they would suck his dick.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:30

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:30

       And, and he would get him an Oscar. And, like, this was the thing where everybody thanked him. Thank you, Harvey.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:34

       That actually happened?

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

       Yes.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:36

       Yeah.... gave an actress an Oscar.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:39

       Well, he didn't give him an Oscar. He gave him an Oscar award-winning role in a Miramax film-

   20. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:44

       Okay.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:44

       ... which is gonna be a blockbuster film, which pretty much gets you real close. And then there's the influence of it being a Harvey Weinstein movie. He was the king at the time, and everybody followed his lead. Like, when, you know, you have big movies like Pulp Fiction and those kinda films that Miramax produced, they produced bangers. You go back and look at the, the Miramax library-

   22. BSBrendan Schaub1:01:03

       Oh, bro.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:03

       ... banger after banger when Harvey Weinstein was pr- because-

   24. BSBrendan Schaub1:01:06

       Quentin Tarantino.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:07

       Yeah. I mean, it's just like the wildest movies from the wildest dude. You know? Who was clearly a sex addict.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub1:01:15

       He's like, "If you wanna be a lead in Pulp Fiction, you gotta suck these balls and my thighs." (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:20

       (laughs) I mean-

   28. BSBrendan Schaub1:01:24

       It's fucking wild. (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:25

       ... he, he just was in the wrong place at the wrong time. If this happened in the '80s, they probably would've thrown it out.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub1:01:29

       Yeah.

Episode duration: 3:27:54