JRE MMA Show #100 with Cody Garbrandt

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays) Hello, Cody.

   2. CGCody Garbrandt0:15

      What's going on, bro?

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Good to see you, brother. What's happening, man?

   4. CGCody Garbrandt0:17

      You too. Enjoying Austin.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Yeah. So you're coming here?

   6. CGCody Garbrandt0:20

      Possibly.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      Are you letting ... Do people know? About-

   8. CGCody Garbrandt0:22

      Not yet.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      Did I blow the ... ?

   10. CGCody Garbrandt0:23

       Not yet, but I'll let 'em know. They're gonna know now.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       (laughs)

   12. CGCody Garbrandt0:26

       I think so. I mean, it's probably the, you know, move we spoke about earlier.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       Yeah.

   14. CGCody Garbrandt0:30

       But, uh, I've always loved Texas, like we spoke earlier. I, I got signed here to the UFC. Was on it for so many years. Came out here during fight, fight camps for a week, and kinda just unplugged but focused on training and had a good time out here. It was always, always a pleasure.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       Yeah, it's a beautiful place. Uh, I'm enjoying the shit out of it. Dude, first of all, congratulations on your comeback. Uh, that ... (sighs) You know, you're a great guy, and when there's someone I like who loses a bunch of fights in a row, and you get into this skid, it's ha- it's hard to watch. I can't imagine what it was like being you.

   16. CGCody Garbrandt1:05

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       You know, to have a, a young child and to be dealing with all of this going o- ... I mean, it's like y- ... Losing your to- ... But then to come back the way you did, against a really fucking tough guy in Assuncao and get, arguably, the KO of the year. I mean, you gotta be feeling pretty fucking good.

   18. CGCody Garbrandt1:24

       I feel great, you know? Um-

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:25

       Back from the brink.

   20. CGCody Garbrandt1:26

       Back from the brinks. I mean, that time in my life, that timeframe and period and, and going through that f- ... You know, from on top of the world, world champion, uh, to three-fight skid, honestly it feels like a, a lifetime ago. I feel like I'm just a different person, um, where I, where I was at from there. You know, removed, and the things I'm just doing differently, thinking differently, you know, how I was able to approach the game, picking myself back up time and time again. I mean, (laughs) it's ... Internet is a horrible place to get, get knocked out on, you know? Especially-

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:56

       The internet's fucked. (laughs)

   22. CGCody Garbrandt1:58

       You got the trolls, this and that, you know? It's-

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:00

       Yeah.

   24. CGCody Garbrandt2:00

       But besides that point, you know, um, just coming back to that and having a love for it. A lot of the times I got to the fight and, um, not to make excuses, I was just ... I didn't feel myself. I didn't feel like, um ... In the training and leading up, I felt physically I'm always ready to fight. Like flip the switch, I'm always physically ready to fight. I think mentally, going into those fights, I was just, um, out of body. I wasn't ... Uh, I felt like I was going through the motions. You know, my passion wasn't there. I wasn't waking up every day like, "What's your reason why?" Like I was just trying to find that, and I think the reason why I w- had so many people, um, infiltrated in how I should train or how I should live or what I should do to get back there, and really it wasn't nothing that I needed to learn new. I didn't have to reinvent the wheel. It was just doing the Slight Edge Theory, like getting out of your comfort zone. Like you're doing your sauna sessions, like you're pushing yourself to go in there and, and just be uncomfortable. Um, you know? So I had to go out there and with that comeback, you know, I moved to Jersey, did training camp out there, and I split time between-

   25. JRJoe Rogan2:58

       Yeah, I wanna talk to you about that.

   26. CGCody Garbrandt3:00

       You're talking now?

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:00

       I'm a big fan of Henry.

   28. CGCody Garbrandt3:01

       Dude.

   29. JRJoe Rogan3:02

       Mark Henry's a bad motherfucker.

   30. CGCody Garbrandt3:03

       H- he's great. I, I love ... I enjoy him so much, his passion for it, his love for it.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   For your back? …

   1. CGCody Garbrandt15:00

      You know, I still feel, um... I learned a lot, like, doing obviously yoga, PT. You know, as much as I'm training, I'm still doing five days a week of PT, you know, and, and, and mobility work.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:09

      For your back?

   3. CGCody Garbrandt15:10

      For my, just-

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:11

      Yeah.

   5. CGCody Garbrandt15:11

      ... overall mobility.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:12

      What was the exact extent of the injury?

   7. CGCody Garbrandt15:14

      It was an annular tear, um, in my-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:16

      Of the disc?

   9. CGCody Garbrandt15:17

      Of the disc, yeah. So it was kinda just protruding. It was just hitting that sciatic nerve and-

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:21

       Mm. Yeah.

   11. CGCody Garbrandt15:21

       ... just locking up.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:23

       They're doing stem cells in discs now, and th- they're having great results from that.

   13. CGCody Garbrandt15:27

       I have to check it out.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:27

       You know, I know a dude who had severe sciatic pain and a, a dropped foot. Like, his foot was, like, going numb and, and he got it completely fixed with stem cells.

   15. CGCody Garbrandt15:37

       Wow. That's great.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       Yeah. Regenerative medicine is the future, man. It's really fascinating stuff.

   17. CGCody Garbrandt15:41

       Um, part of it's pulling from your own self to heal you and mix with some other stuff?

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:44

       Yeah, some of it. And some of it they're doing from umbilical cords.

   19. CGCody Garbrandt15:47

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       When a, a young, like if a young woman gives birth, uh, they, they take the umbilical cord and they make stem cells out of the umbilical cord.

   21. CGCody Garbrandt15:55

       Nice. Yeah, that's great. I'm-

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:55

       Yeah.

   23. CGCody Garbrandt15:56

       ... I'm all for it. (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       Dude, it's, uh, it's incredible stuff. But, so you w- you, you, you... Ta- talk to me about the visualization stuff. So this was something that you had concentrated on earlier in your career?

   25. CGCody Garbrandt16:08

       Really, my whole entire life without knowing what law of attraction was and, and having these, you know, people teach me this kind of stuff. I remember writing on my planner in, in grade school, in, in c- junior high and high school, like, I was gonna be a state champion. You know, that's what I wanted to be. You know, our mom always gave us Christmas presents at the Jerome Schottenstein Center to go watch the state wrestling tournament in Ohio. And everybody knows the Ohio State Tournament is... You know, you beat a state champion in Ohio, you're, you're elite in, in the nation.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:34

       Mm-hmm.

   27. CGCody Garbrandt16:35

       It's, it's a tough state. So that's what we were... You know, our first sport we fell in love with was wrestling. We, we traveled all over, uh, once our mom, you know, put us in it. Traveled around the country packed in her minivan, driving to all kinds of... You know, Iowa, Maryland, Florida, just, that's what we did every weekend, you know. It's what we, uh, enjoyed to do. So I started visualization there with, you know... I saw the announcer's name, you know, hearing that.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:56

       So this is just in your... Like, you were almost-

   29. CGCody Garbrandt16:58

       In my mind.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:58

       ... like just daydreaming?
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   And be- and staying…

   1. CGCody Garbrandt30:00

      train. I gotta... You know, I can't take this week off. No. We're here, you know, looking at homes and doing other things with PNP, my, uh, other business partners. So just prioritizing what's important. What's your goals? How are you reaching those goals? What are you working towards? Are you reading help books, self-help books? Are you reading, you know, books to help your, your mental fortitude to strengthen that? You know, are you doing yoga? Are you doing... Uh, there's so much resources.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:20

      And be- and staying enthusiastic too.

   3. CGCody Garbrandt30:21

      And staying enthusiastic.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:22

      Yeah.

   5. CGCody Garbrandt30:22

      I think that's the main thing.I wasn't enthusiastic. I felt like I was just going through the motions. And there's a lot of other things-

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:28

      That happens to a lot of fighters.

   7. CGCody Garbrandt30:29

      There's a lot of things that can transpire. But I'm solely putting the blame on myself, 'cause that's all I can control, what I do, how I react to things. And I wasn't the person that I am during those kinds of, you know, tribulations or trials in my life.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:44

      Yeah.

   9. CGCody Garbrandt30:44

      You know? And I've grown from that. I was 24, 25 years old. I'm 29 years old now. You know, I look at the game, um, just differently. You know, I'm still a savage. I'm still gonna go in there and, and, and try to kill you. And, and Dana's gonna give us a b- extra money for a knockout blow.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:59

       (laughs)

   11. CGCody Garbrandt30:59

       Sign me the fuck up, bro.

   12. JRJoe Rogan31:00

       Do you like the extra money, the bonus b- thing? I, I f- I f- I don't even like win bonuses. I, uh, it drives me crazy.

   13. CGCody Garbrandt31:07

       I, uh...

   14. JRJoe Rogan31:08

       I feel like a fighter should get paid.

   15. CGCody Garbrandt31:10

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:10

       Like, I don't think you are trying to win anymore if you get a bonus. You're a, a professional cage fighter. There's, there's... It doesn't make any sense to me.

   17. CGCody Garbrandt31:19

       There's only one time in my professional career that I didn't get my second check. And that shit sucked.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:23

       Yeah.

   19. CGCody Garbrandt31:23

       I was, man, I was... Uh, 'cause you're banking on it. I mean, we've-

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:26

       Right.

   21. CGCody Garbrandt31:27

       ... we make our money through our fights, you know? And luckily, we have some good sponsors if you're, you know, able to be sponsored by that.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:32

       And-

   23. CGCody Garbrandt31:32

       But we fight, that's how we make our money, you know?

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:34

       And then there's bad decisions, which is even crazier.

   25. CGCody Garbrandt31:36

       (sighs) They're what I'm not trusting.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:36

       So it's not just that a bad decision give you a loss, but it could cost you half of your paycheck. That's insane.

   27. CGCody Garbrandt31:42

       And we don't get to run it back next week.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:43

       No.

   29. CGCody Garbrandt31:43

       We gotta recover. We might be banged up. Dude, that was my first time after the Sun Cao fight since the Cam Izagaki fight that I didn't get injured. I tore tendons and ligaments and-

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:52

       Mm-hmm.
4. 45:00 – 59:54

   Crystals in your- …

   1. CGCody Garbrandt45:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      Crystals in your-

   3. CGCody Garbrandt45:01

      Crystals, yeah. It was that irregular tube that was throwing my equilibrium off, which basically is positional vertigo.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:06

      Oh.

   5. CGCody Garbrandt45:06

      A lot of it's... That's the most common one. You know, a lot of people just, you know, they can sneeze wrong or s- do something-

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:11

      Mm-hmm.

   7. CGCody Garbrandt45:11

      ... sleep wrong on their neck and they have vertigo. And there's a maneuver you do to put it back. But it wasn't positional vertigo, it was just literally COVID had, had me so messed up.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:20

      So your body was so compromised from the antibiotics-

   9. CGCody Garbrandt45:23

      Mm-hmm.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:23

       ... the kidney infection, d- uh, a second kidney infection. So you were just b- basically getting your hea- your health back, which is crazy that you beat Assuncao in that state.

   11. CGCody Garbrandt45:34

       Yeah. That was, uh-

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:34

       'Cause you cl- you had to be clearly compromised. There's no way you could have been 100% if you were going... if you went through that much antibiotics before that fight.

   13. CGCody Garbrandt45:41

       But I think that goes back to the... my mental state where I was at. I knew that I needed to get in that octagon and change this around. I was not living life like this.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:49

       Yeah.

   15. CGCody Garbrandt45:49

       I was tired of living on a three-fight skid. I was ready to just get back in there. And when you know... Like, for me, like, I... Like we talked about earlier with the TGS fights, I don't have to go in there and be angry and, and upset and wanna rip to shatter a guy or hate this guy. I have hatred for this guy. It's a flip the switch. Like, when you know, you have it in you or you don't, you know?

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:05

       Yeah.

   17. CGCody Garbrandt46:05

       And I... And that, that's been bred in me. I've have it. Um, so I just needed to get in there. I was like not taking no for an answer. I mean-

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:11

       Mm-hmm.

   19. CGCody Garbrandt46:11

       ... my coaches and stuff are like, "Ah, we don't know if you're gonna make it." You know? And Coach Mark, I'd call him, 'cause we basically (laughs) did... I would s- film my pad work and my sparring rounds and send it to coach on WhatsApp, and then he would break everything down, "Do more of this, do less of that. Looking good, looking fast on the... You know, your, your left toe counter off." You know, things like that.

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:29

       Mm-hmm.

   21. CGCody Garbrandt46:29

       So we b- did virtually, you know, f- c- camp through there. So then when we came out to... I s- kept working the codes to... "Keep working your codes, keep working, you know, and m- make sure you're doing under nine," things like that. Um, and then when we came to fight week, it was just...

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:47

       So talk-

   23. CGCody Garbrandt46:47

       Smo-

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:48

       ... me through you getting... You got COVID-tested-

   25. CGCody Garbrandt46:50

       Mm-hmm.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:51

       ... in August at the Tyson-Joe. You knew that you had it. When, when are you free of it? Like-

   27. CGCody Garbrandt46:59

       This is the first test that I've, I passed since.

   28. JRJoe Rogan47:01

       Really? Today?

   29. CGCody Garbrandt47:02

       Yes. My, my doctor quit testing me.

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:03

       February?

Episode duration: 2:02:45