JRE MMA Show #105 with Derrick Lewis

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. DLDerrick Lewis0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) All right. Mr. Lewis, what's up?

   4. DLDerrick Lewis0:15

      What's up? What's up?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      Thanks for being here and doing this.

   6. DLDerrick Lewis0:18

      Thanks for finally having me.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      My pleasure, dude. And yeah, we talked about it a couple times.

   8. DLDerrick Lewis0:21

      Yeah. (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      The "my balls was hot" one was the famous one.

   10. DLDerrick Lewis0:24

       I don't remember that one.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       (laughs)

   12. DLDerrick Lewis0:27

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       So how's things, man?

   14. DLDerrick Lewis0:29

       Things been crazy. Been real crazy.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       I can only imagine.

   16. DLDerrick Lewis0:32

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       After that knockout of Curtis Blaydes, like, uh, poof. I mean, that- that got a lot of attention.

   18. DLDerrick Lewis0:38

       Oh, yeah. Yeah. And it felt real gr- good to knock him out because he was talking a lot of trash before the fight.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Isn't that, like, par for the course, though? Everybody talks shit before the fight.

   20. DLDerrick Lewis0:49

       Um, even whenever I'm doing good, though. He been talking, at least three years now, he been talking mess to me.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       Really?

   22. DLDerrick Lewis0:55

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       Do you take that shit personally?

   24. DLDerrick Lewis0:58

       Um, I- I do because I'm not in there trying to sell tickets. Don't just come to me trying to sell tickets to talk trash, you know. I take everything personal.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       Yeah, some guys do just try to sell tickets and then they, they'll say, "It's not personal." It's just, like, when Khabib Nurmagomedov was fucking up Conor when he was on top of him, pounding on him, going, "Let's talk now. Let's talk now." Remember that?

   26. DLDerrick Lewis1:20

       (laughs) Yeah, yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:21

       And he goes, "It's just business." You know? It's like, this is not business.

   28. DLDerrick Lewis1:24

       No. No. I go into every fight, like, life or death. And I go i- I enter a deep, dark place every time I step inside the octagon, so it's not business for me.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:36

       What was interesting is after the fight, I mean, it was just such a spectacular knockout, but after the fight, you were so nonchalant. You were just so relaxed and you're like, "I couldn't get started in there."

   30. DLDerrick Lewis1:46

       Mm-hmm.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   That's, that's what I'm…

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      quicker.

   2. DLDerrick Lewis15:01

      That's, that's what I'm working on right now.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:03

      Are you working on losing weight? That was gonna ask you.

   4. DLDerrick Lewis15:04

      Just trying to be endurance and trying to be quicker and stuff like that because being big is like... You can last for like three minutes, four, four or five minutes one round, and then after that everything start going downhill.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:17

      What do you weigh now?

   6. DLDerrick Lewis15:18

      Like right now I'm 290 only because I ate Krispy Kreme this morning.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:22

      (laughs)

   8. DLDerrick Lewis15:22

      And we... You're gonna cut that part out though. (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:25

      What do you wanna get down to?

   10. DLDerrick Lewis15:26

       I would love to get down to like 250, 245.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:30

       Yeah?

   12. DLDerrick Lewis15:30

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:31

       Do you see that being possible? I think your skeleton weighs about 250. (laughs)

   14. DLDerrick Lewis15:36

       (laughs) I don't know. I don't know. Um, I'm trying, I'm trying. But since I've been off, I've been eating my ass off, so... I would love to get down 250 though.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:46

       Now, I watched a lot of your training videos and you do a lot of strength and conditioning stuff, like a lot of-

   16. DLDerrick Lewis15:50

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:51

       ...like explosive work and shit like that. Would you change that and just do... start, start doing a lot of like long distance endurance stuff? Like how would you lose that kind of weight?

   18. DLDerrick Lewis15:58

       No, I wouldn't change that. I love doing that. I believe me doing all right... That right there, um, takes a lot out of me, and I love feeling fatigued after every workout. And so I wouldn't do that, anything like that. But I will also try to run on a track or something like that, run few miles around a track. That's something I never done before.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:19

       Would you... Oh, so you don't run at all?

   20. DLDerrick Lewis16:21

       No.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:21

       Would you... So what do you do for endurance work?

   22. DLDerrick Lewis16:23

       I do StairMaster. Um, we do s- um, elliptical bike and stuff like that. We... I, I don't run. I haven't ran in years really.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:35

       Do you not run because you don't like it or do you not run because of your joints 'cause-

   24. DLDerrick Lewis16:39

       Uh, I just don't like it.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:40

       Yeah.

   26. DLDerrick Lewis16:40

       It's boring. I mean, really.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:41

       (laughs)

   28. DLDerrick Lewis16:41

       It's boring.

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:43

       But if it was good for you, do you think you would... So this is the plan? The plan is to start incorporating that?

   30. DLDerrick Lewis16:49

       Yeah, if it's good for me, you know. But it's hard though.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      talking, telling that to the judge. I would have said that to the judge.

   2. DLDerrick Lewis30:02

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      "Your Honor, I think, I think this is a mistake."

   4. DLDerrick Lewis30:04

      Yeah. (laughs) Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      Yeah. So three and a half years for that.

   6. DLDerrick Lewis30:09

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:09

      And so people wrote you off. They felt like this is just... You're just gonna be trouble your whole life.

   8. DLDerrick Lewis30:14

      Yeah. Especially, I had a full scholarship. Um, I was already... I played the year.I ended up getting probation for that, and I ended up playing a year of college at Kilgore Junior College. And I ended up violating because I didn't have a job and I had to pay my fines and fees and show up to my, um, meetings, which no one wanted to help me go in to do. And so I ended up getting violated, um, from that and, and it was only a two-year probation at the time, just a vacation, and so no one wanted to help me, um, to go to my class and help me pay my fines, stuff like that, because I was in college, you know, didn't have any money. And so they violated me, I went to prison for ... On a five-year sentence, but I got parole three and a half years.

   9. JRJoe Rogan31:05

      So you went to prison because of the violation of not paying the fines?

   10. DLDerrick Lewis31:09

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan31:09

       Yeah.

   12. DLDerrick Lewis31:10

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan31:10

       The, the, the feeling of being counted out by the system, that's, uh, one of the main problems that most people have with our justice system-

   14. DLDerrick Lewis31:18

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:18

       ... is that it doesn't really rehabilitate people.

   16. DLDerrick Lewis31:21

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:21

       It makes people feel like there's no hope and in a lot of ways, it makes them resign themselves to a life of crime.

   18. DLDerrick Lewis31:27

       Oh, yeah. Yeah. Then it's really not, no, nothing they can really do to help somebody to re- rehabilitate their self, you know, whenever they get out. It's no programs they can really, like jobs and stuff. They, there's some jobs, but not really good-paying jobs, like, that they'd really need to really, um, survive out here.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:48

       So from going from that to becoming a successful martial artist, like and to be ... And I know you don't think you practice martial arts but you definitely do.

   20. DLDerrick Lewis31:58

       Hmm. (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:59

       But to be a successful fighter, you've, you've, uh, you've changed your future. But I think you've also opened up a lot of people's eyes that maybe they can change their future too. If a guy like you can do it, then what's the difference between you and a lot of other people? Not much difference.

   22. DLDerrick Lewis32:16

       Yes. My brother remind me of that all the time. He thinks, he thinking that it, that fighting is so easy because I can do it, that he believe that he can do it. I'm telling him, it's completely different, it's not-

   23. JRJoe Rogan32:28

       Is your brother big like you?

   24. DLDerrick Lewis32:29

       Yeah, he's big, yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan32:30

       Can he fight?

   26. DLDerrick Lewis32:32

       Well, he can fight in the streets. You know, it's completely different fighting in the streets than-

   27. JRJoe Rogan32:35

       Right.

   28. DLDerrick Lewis32:35

       ... mixed martial arts. But, yeah, in the streets he can fight.

   29. JRJoe Rogan32:38

       How old's your brother?

   30. DLDerrick Lewis32:39

       He's 31.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah. It'd be good…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

   2. DLDerrick Lewis45:00

      Yeah. It'd be good if they change it.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:03

      Yeah.

   4. DLDerrick Lewis45:03

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:04

      So in a way, not in a way, but, like, for sure, you're living the American dream.

   6. DLDerrick Lewis45:08

      Yes.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:09

      In a, in a, in a good way because, like, y- it wasn't good. Your life wasn't good in the beginning.

   8. DLDerrick Lewis45:14

      Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:14

      And now it's ama- amazing.

   10. DLDerrick Lewis45:16

       Yeah, it's pretty amazing. You know, I can't complain about anything really. You know, even the bad days, I really can't complain about it, you know, 'cause so crazy. And now it's like, I'll try to help a lot of my family members out, but they still trying to find ways to burn me at the end, you know?

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:34

       Your family members?

   12. DLDerrick Lewis45:36

       Yeah, I bought just about all of them cars, like, cash cars. And less than a few months, they sold all of them. Like, e- each. My brother and sister, my mom, they all sold their cars, um, for the cash.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:49

       Oh, no.

   14. DLDerrick Lewis45:50

       Yeah, and there was... Had some type of crazy excuse, but it was all good, you know.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:57

       Do you have a lot of people asking you for money now?

   16. DLDerrick Lewis45:59

       Every day.

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:00

       (laughs)

   18. DLDerrick Lewis46:01

       You know, I already know what- what's the setup gonna be soon as someone texts me or call me that I haven't talked to in a long time. I already knew-

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:08

       Yeah.

   20. DLDerrick Lewis46:08

       ... what kinda story they about to, um, talk about before they ask for money.

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:12

       You gotta do what I do. Change-

   22. DLDerrick Lewis46:14

       I change my number.

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:14

       ... Change your number. (laughs)

   24. DLDerrick Lewis46:15

       Bro, I change my number. I change my number all the time. I change my number all the time, and my wife-

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:20

       Yeah, I do it.

   26. DLDerrick Lewis46:20

       ... my wife thinks, oh, it's because some female or something like that. No, it's not really no females. It's no females at all. It's just, like, family members or some other guy that's trying to get an interview with me that someone gave my number to.

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:35

       Yeah, that, that becomes a problem too, right?

   28. DLDerrick Lewis46:37

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:37

       Yeah. Yeah, this, uh, that's the problem, right? More money, more problems.

   30. DLDerrick Lewis46:43

       It's 100% true.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:13:22

   (laughs) …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      Oh! (cheering) (laughing) Look at Dennis Lavalt! They got Dennis Lavant! Volkov's done! Volkov's done!

   2. DLDerrick Lewis1:00:09

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:09

      Look at everybody going crazy. (laughs)

   4. DLDerrick Lewis1:00:12

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

      We were going cr- I had to get up. I had to stand up.

   6. DLDerrick Lewis1:00:14

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:15

      I couldn't take it. That was so nuts.

   8. DLDerrick Lewis1:00:17

      Uh, my coach, um, my manager, my manager at home, he fainted 'cause we... (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

      (laughs)

   10. DLDerrick Lewis1:00:26

       Lou, Lou say he fainted, like he couldn't take it either no more, because everyone was just so, so pumped about that. And I heard that, uh-... some police was called because my neighbors- our fans was, um, just going crazy after the fight.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:39

       Oh, man. Oh, that was-

   12. DLDerrick Lewis1:00:40

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:41

       That was wild. That was one of the best come from behind knockouts ever. I mean, but it was- it was wild too because we just got done saying-

   14. DLDerrick Lewis1:00:47

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

       ... like, "Don't count him out. At any moment, he could knock you out," and then boom, you catch him with a big punch-

   16. DLDerrick Lewis1:00:52

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:52

       ... and then drop him, and then boom, put him away.

   18. DLDerrick Lewis1:00:54

       Mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:54

       We went nuts.

   20. DLDerrick Lewis1:00:55

       I like it whenever my coach say, "Okay, we got a minute left, 30 seconds left." Then I'm like, "Okay, try to gain..." So I got- I have to let everything out. Um, s- a lot of my fights, I finish in the last few seconds of the fight. So I like to- to wait 'til the last minute or last two minutes left to really show what I got left in my tank. So...

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:19

       But that shows your hard work-

   22. DLDerrick Lewis1:01:20

       Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:20

       ... that you can keep that power in- in, like, d- deep into the fight. That means you did the work in the gym.

   24. DLDerrick Lewis1:01:26

       Mm-hmm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:27

       Like, y- you still have the- the gas.

   26. DLDerrick Lewis1:01:29

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:29

       Yeah. Was that your most satisfying knockout?

   28. DLDerrick Lewis1:01:33

       That was, yeah. B- the crowd made it real exciti- satisfying because the way they reacted, you know, then seeing that one guy that played in, um, the one movie, um, Gr- um, Groot, Brute? What movie is that?

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:50

       Which mov-

   30. DLDerrick Lewis1:01:50

       Guardians- Guardians of the Galaxy?

Episode duration: 1:49:33