JRE MMA Show #119 with Michael Bisping

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (instrumental music) Good to see you, brother.

   3. MBMichael Bisping0:13

      Good to see you too, Joe.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      We're working together for the first time-

   5. MBMichael Bisping0:15

      Thanks a lot.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      ... this weekend.

   7. MBMichael Bisping0:16

      I know. I just told ya. (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Yeah, I'm very excited. I'm very excited about that. It's a fucking great card.

   9. MBMichael Bisping0:20

      Yeah. No, it really is. Uh, sick card. Dubious circumstances how I got the call, so my-

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       Very, very unfortunate.

   11. MBMichael Bisping0:27

       ... condolences to Daniel Cormier.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       Daniel's mom passed away.

   13. MBMichael Bisping0:29

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Very, very, very unfortunate. You know, and this is-

   15. MBMichael Bisping0:32

       Very unfortunate.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       ... this is such a crazy week 'cause the Cain Velasquez story just came out, and we were having that conversation and, you know ...

   17. MBMichael Bisping0:40

       (sighs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       Fuck, man. I mean-

   19. MBMichael Bisping0:41

       That's a heavy one.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       That's the heaviest. His four-year-old daughter was allegedly molested by this guy and you could only imagine the rage, the fucking rage that must've been going through that man's mind. I mean-

   21. MBMichael Bisping0:55

       Hmm.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       ... I, I get it. He-

   23. MBMichael Bisping0:58

       Apparently it was a hundred times. I don't know how they know that, but that's what's circulating.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       (sighs)

   25. MBMichael Bisping1:03

       And i- a- as you say, one time. When you hear that, that this-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       Yeah.

   27. MBMichael Bisping1:08

       ... potentially has been going on for God knows how long. Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       And he's got a little daughter, man. She's four.

   29. MBMichael Bisping1:14

       Oh, my God.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:14

       She's a tiny little, cute little adorable girl and that's ...
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      Like, how many fucking guys are just constantly walking around in pain?

   2. MBMichael Bisping15:04

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      You know?

   4. MBMichael Bisping15:05

      I was in pain. A lot of pain. A lot of pain towards the end, yeah. What are you gonna do?

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:10

      D- if you like it, I mean, especially if that's what you do for a living, it's just part... Who the fuck... No one rides for free.

   6. MBMichael Bisping15:16

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:17

      Nobody gets out of your business, and, and in the end of the day, you're 100%.

   8. MBMichael Bisping15:20

      You just kinda resign yourself to that.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:22

      Yeah.

   10. MBMichael Bisping15:22

       You know, people ask me... You know, I mean, I've, I have no regrets. I mean, the knee's just the tip of the iceberg, you know?

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:27

       Right, right.

   12. MBMichael Bisping15:28

       I've got one eye. I got... I had to have my nose rebuilt. They took my ribs and rebuilt that. What else? My neck. I had neck surgery last year. Gotta have two more plates take, uh, put in, two discs taken out, you know?

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       What are they doing, the, to your neck?

   14. MBMichael Bisping15:39

       Well, remember years ago we were talking about it?

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:41

       Yeah, yeah. You had-

   16. MBMichael Bisping15:42

       So-

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:42

       ... a bulging disc-

   18. MBMichael Bisping15:43

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       ... and it was like atrophying your arm, right?

   20. MBMichael Bisping15:45

       Correct, yeah. It still does that. So they went in through my throat, sliced me open there, pushed my throat to the side, took a disc out, put a titanium plate in and four screws.

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       Was this while you were still fighting?

   22. MBMichael Bisping15:54

       No, this was last year.

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       Oh, okay.

   24. MBMichael Bisping15:56

       Last year, yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       So you've got one of them articulating discs-

   26. MBMichael Bisping16:00

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       ... in there.

   28. MBMichael Bisping16:00

       Something. How does that-

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:01

       How's that work?

   30. MBMichael Bisping16:02

       I'm still in pain.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Great, great fight. And,…

   1. MBMichael Bisping30:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      Great, great fight. And, you know, for... And Alhassan can fucking crack.

   3. MBMichael Bisping30:04

      Oh, yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:05

      I mean, that dude is strong.

   5. MBMichael Bisping30:06

      Pure knockout power.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      Oh my god. And so the fact that-

   7. MBMichael Bisping30:09

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:09

      ... Holland was able to take him out with one shot like that is in- insanely impressive.

   9. MBMichael Bisping30:12

      Well, tall skinnier guys, leaner guys-

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       Mm-hmm.

   11. MBMichael Bisping30:15

       ... you think they're not gonna have much power, but they have a tremendous frame for it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:18

       Mm-hmm.

   13. MBMichael Bisping30:18

       And if you know how to use it and use the angles and-

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:21

       Torque.

   15. MBMichael Bisping30:21

       ... use that frame, the torque and the-

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:22

       Yeah.

   17. MBMichael Bisping30:22

       ... rotation.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:23

       Tommy Hearns.

   19. MBMichael Bisping30:24

       Yeah, yeah. You know-

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:25

       Remember those days?

   21. MBMichael Bisping30:25

       ... I used to train with this guy back in England, and he was tall and skinny as hell. Oh God, what a nightmare he was.

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:31

       (laughs)

   23. MBMichael Bisping30:32

       Fucking nightmare, so yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       So he reached-

   25. MBMichael Bisping30:34

       Skinny guys, be careful. Dealing with the reach of tall guys- Mm-hmm.

   26. JRJoe Rogan30:37

       ... you know?

   27. MBMichael Bisping30:38

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan30:38

       That's why guys like Rockhold at 85 was like, he was always a nightmare, because he was so big at 85-

   29. MBMichael Bisping30:43

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       ... and he had such a long reach, you know?
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Oh, that's horrible. (laughs)…

   1. MBMichael Bisping45:00

      sorry."

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      Oh, that's horrible. (laughs)

   3. MBMichael Bisping45:03

      Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but, um-

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:04

      Is there any hope for your eye?

   5. MBMichael Bisping45:06

      No. No.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:07

      Nothing?

   7. MBMichael Bisping45:07

      No. No.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:07

      There's nothing they can do in terms of, uh, repair?

   9. MBMichael Bisping45:12

      Well, if you look at that-

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:13

       Wow, it has gotten worse.

   11. MBMichael Bisping45:14

       Yeah. There's just nothing there, so...

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:16

       Wow.

   13. MBMichael Bisping45:17

       Um, when I got this done, which changed my life in many ways, to be honest, um, I was just sick of looking like that. Do you know what I mean?

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:24

       So you don't see anything out of it? No light, nothing?

   15. MBMichael Bisping45:26

       If, if I cover up my good eye and the lights go on and off, the shade of blackness changes.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:33

       Wow.

   17. MBMichael Bisping45:33

       So it'll go... Yeah, just ever so slightly. I c- I can tell when a light's gone on and off. That- that's it.

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:37

       And there's no-

   19. MBMichael Bisping45:38

       (clears throat)

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:39

       ... replacement lenses or anything that they can do?

   21. MBMichael Bisping45:42

       I saw or I heard recently that they're, they're, they- they're putting in, like, robotic eyes or something like that.

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:50

       Hmm.

   23. MBMichael Bisping45:51

       Yeah, but I haven't looked into it yet because, you know...

   24. JRJoe Rogan45:53

       Two fake knees and a fake eye.

   25. MBMichael Bisping45:55

       Yeah. Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan45:56

       Imagine. Imagine if it's better.

   27. MBMichael Bisping45:57

       Oh, no. I know. Could you imagine?

   28. JRJoe Rogan45:59

       'Cause I think-

   29. MBMichael Bisping45:59

       I'm, I'm fucking back. Let's go. (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       (laughs)
5. 1:00:00 – 1:03:39

   Oh, yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      you could see your gears spinning, like, "Not today, motherfucker."

   2. MBMichael Bisping1:00:04

      Oh, yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:05

      Like, "I am not gonna lose the same way. There's no fucking way I'm gonna let that guy knock me out again."

   4. MBMichael Bisping1:00:10

      Well, because obviously if you're fighting Dan Henderson, the whole game plan is avoid the right hand.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:14

      Yeah. (laughs)

   6. MBMichael Bisping1:00:14

      You know what I mean? But like my old boxing coach used to say, "You don't go in the rain without getting wet." He's built a career on that right hand.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

      Mm-hmm.

   8. MBMichael Bisping1:00:21

      He's gonna land it probably.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:23

      Isn't that wild?

   10. MBMichael Bisping1:00:23

       Yeah, it is.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

       It's wild when someone has like one weapon that's so fucking powerful, you know? 'Cause it's like, I mean, I think he hurt Hector Lombard with a left too.

   12. MBMichael Bisping1:00:34

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

       And then he high-kicked him, didn't he?

   14. MBMichael Bisping1:00:36

       Well, no, I-

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

       He KO'd him with an elbow, I believe.

   16. MBMichael Bisping1:00:39

       But he, boom, and then came-

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:40

       Yeah.

   18. MBMichael Bisping1:00:40

       ... back like that again.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:41

       Yes.

   20. MBMichael Bisping1:00:41

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:42

       Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think he high-kicked him too.

   22. MBMichael Bisping1:00:44

       Right, I'm not sure. Yeah, I was-

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:46

       Which is-

   24. MBMichael Bisping1:00:46

       ... warming up, man.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:46

       Yeah.

   26. MBMichael Bisping1:00:46

       I fought him the same night, yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

       Yeah. It's, uh, but that fight too, that was another example of your resolve, the fact that-

   28. MBMichael Bisping1:00:54

       Well-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:00:54

       ... you got rocked and you still figured out a way to win that fight.

   30. MBMichael Bisping1:00:58

       W- well, thank you, yeah.

Episode duration: 3:06:38