JRE MMA Show #121 with Bobby Green

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast.…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. BGBobby Green0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) A fan ever since.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      Okay.

   5. BGBobby Green0:13

      That's what I- my preferred method.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Now, now blunt. What kind of blunt? (inhales deeply) Well, he was using, um, Swisher Sweets-

   7. BGBobby Green0:21

      There we go.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      ... I believe.

   9. BGBobby Green0:22

      So there we go. I figured you'd say so.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       Hmm.

   11. BGBobby Green0:24

       And when I first started smoking, I was a Swisher guy. You know?

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       Yeah.

   13. BGBobby Green0:27

       I'd get the little grape Swishers and little flavors and stuff like that. But as it got, uh, as I got more efficient in smoking, I started stepping, taking little steps here and trying this and trying-

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Hmm.

   15. BGBobby Green0:36

       ... those wraps and trying these things, you know?

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       Like a chef.

   17. BGBobby Green0:39

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Like a chef experiments with new spices.

   19. BGBobby Green0:40

       So now I'm going to kick you to a backwood, okay?

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       Oh, okay. But I've had backwood.

   21. BGBobby Green0:45

       Okay.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Yeah. You know there's-

   23. BGBobby Green0:46

       You can have my backwood though.

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       ... companies that roll, um, Nick from, uh, Foundation Cigar sent me some-

   25. BGBobby Green0:52

       I've seen that.

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       ... papers. It's like they use like real... That's it right there. Thank you, sir. This stuff right here. This is, uh, where you don't have to destroy a cigar. They just give you the actual leaf.

   27. BGBobby Green1:03

       The actual leaf. Yeah, yeah, I know. I see everybody coming out with those now.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       Yeah. 'Cause a lot of people, to do it, they-

   29. BGBobby Green1:07

       They're realizing that we're not even fucking using the fucking taba- tobacco.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:10

       ... it's kind of a waste. Yeah. I bet that's a giant percentage of the amount of... Right?
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Oh, that's even more…

   1. BGBobby Green15:00

      their fight?" I'm like-

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      Oh, that's even more ridiculous.

   3. BGBobby Green15:02

      Yeah, so I'm like, bro, you know they already know who's gonna win. (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      Yeah.

   5. BGBobby Green15:06

      They already know who's gonna win. As a matter of fact, he's already got his check and he's counting the money.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:09

      I have to have this conversation with Tony Hinchcliffe weekly.

   7. BGBobby Green15:14

      To me, I ju- I ju-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:15

      (laughs)

   9. BGBobby Green15:15

      I love wrestling and, but I thought the, the interest is, you know, the fireworks, the energy.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:22

       Right.

   11. BGBobby Green15:22

       That's the, the package part. Now can I bring that to MMA? You know. That's my b- been my biggest thing is. Since the beginning, I used to come out with Santa Claus suits.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:30

       (laughs)

   13. BGBobby Green15:31

       I used to throw stuff at the crowd 'cause it's like, it's the same, along the same lines.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:35

       Right.

   15. BGBobby Green15:35

       I figured if we could bring MMA to WWE... The only problem is that why WWE had the fall was when we- everyone found out it was fake.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:44

       Right. (laughs)

   17. BGBobby Green15:45

       I believed it was real. And then someone's like, "You know that shit's fake, right? You know. Like, look at their feet." And they're going, "Ugh, ugh." I'm like, "Why the fu- but they're slamming each other?"

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       How old were you? How old were you when you thought it was real?

   19. BGBobby Green15:56

       I'd say 12.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       (laughs)

   21. BGBobby Green15:57

       You know.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       That's normal.

   23. BGBobby Green15:59

       And so then-

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       That's normal.

   25. BGBobby Green15:59

       ... I'm like, "What? You can't fake a slam. He just picked that guy and slammed him." Like, no, they'd actually been trained to break the fall.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       Right.

   27. BGBobby Green16:06

       You know.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:08

       Yeah, if you think about Santa Claus, like the average age kids find out... What do you think it is, Jamie? Nine?

   29. NANarrator16:14

       I hope not.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:16

       I hope not, but I think it is. (laughs)
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Why do you think…

   1. BGBobby Green30:00

      what I'm saying? So it makes it look like... He looks really good. Everybody's like, "Oh, he's, he's, he's, he's talented, he's blah, blah, blah." I'm like, listen, they're writing that story really well. Same thing with boxing. They never fight, uh, nob- they never fight nobody. While we haven't had... While we didn't get Floyd Mayweather and Pacquiao at the same- at the right time, we didn't get Errol Spence and Crawford. These guys are all the best, the UFC does it. And they're gonna write... At least they're gonna write it at the right time. They let Conor build it, they wrote his story correctly, and then they wrote this one, and it comes right, you know? At least they make it happen at some point in time. With boxing, that doesn't happen. They're just like, "Well, he's our star and we don't wanna lose it," 'cause in boxing, you lose, you're done. You don't have the same... I was like, like, I was a big, uh, Broner fan. I liked his antics, I liked everything to him, but once he lost, everybody's like, "He's done."And UFC, we don't have that.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:51

      Why do you think that is? (clears throat) Like, why does the UFC more ... Is it ... W- why is it okay-

   3. BGBobby Green30:57

      To lose?

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:57

      Yeah. In, in MMA. Sorry. (clears throat) Damn. That Bobby Green weed got me.

   5. BGBobby Green31:03

      Ugh.

   6. JRJoe Rogan31:04

      But why is it okay, uh, to lose in MMA? Like, why do you think the MMA community ... L- like, some of the greatest stars have lost a bunch of times.

   7. BGBobby Green31:13

      But, but it- it-

   8. JRJoe Rogan31:14

      There's only a few-

   9. BGBobby Green31:14

      But it's not even okay to lose.

   10. JRJoe Rogan31:14

       ... like a Jon Jones, Khabib.

   11. BGBobby Green31:17

       In our, in our industry, you know what I hear, the word I hear all the time? Journeyman.

   12. JRJoe Rogan31:21

       Hm.

   13. BGBobby Green31:22

       Like, like Colby Cov- Covington has gotta say that he's a fucking journeyman, you know? That when they dis a guy it's 'cause he got his losses, you know?

   14. JRJoe Rogan31:28

       Ugh.

   15. BGBobby Green31:28

       If you've been in this trench long enough, you will get loss. You're gonna get a lot of losses if you've been in these trenches long enough, because there's so many ways to play this-

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:35

       Yeah.

   17. BGBobby Green31:35

       ... this, this chessbo- this chessboard.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:37

       Well, if Colby Covin- Jesus Christ. Damn, this cotton mouth. If Colby Covington, uh, wasn't in the Usman era, he'd probably be champion. I mean, the dude is a beast.

   19. BGBobby Green31:51

       I agree.

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:51

       I mean, he's a fucking beast.

   21. BGBobby Green31:53

       I-

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:53

       His cardio is off the charts. I mean, it's crazy. And his-

   23. BGBobby Green31:57

       It's really sad-

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:58

       ... wrestling, his siloing.

   25. BGBobby Green31:59

       ... is that, to be honest, he's so talented, and he reminds me of Chael, you know, where he had to use the mouthpiece to get more seen-

   26. JRJoe Rogan32:06

       Right.

   27. BGBobby Green32:07

       ... instead of his actual talent, you know? 'Cause he is a skilled fighter.

   28. JRJoe Rogan32:10

       (clears throat)

   29. BGBobby Green32:10

       It's sad that he's kind of, kind of almost tainted ... Like, Chael did it in a great way. Chael did it in a great way. At first he was a little, "Ugh," and, and nobody understood what he was doing. But Chael made it funny, Chael made it interesting. He, he'd give him the carot- the-

   30. JRJoe Rogan32:25

       Right.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   (laughs) …

   1. BGBobby Green45:00

      up, "Let's go." They don't even know who I am. I took the fight on 24 hours' notice. I'm not on the, uh, uh, name on the card or none of the posters or any promotion. I'm getting 'em riled up. I've taken off... I run down these stairs and I run up the next stairs on the other side of the stadium. Go like, "Get up." We're at the Anaheim Pond. "Get up. Let's go." Slapping hands and stuff.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:19

      (laughs)

   3. BGBobby Green45:20

      I'm running back down and the camera crew stops me. They go, "Hey, hey. Stop, stop, stop. We're not recording."

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:25

      Oh, no.

   5. BGBobby Green45:26

      I'm like, "What?" All out of breath. (breathes heavily) "What? Like, that was awes-... What? What do you mean?" They take me back behind the curtains and they want me to do it again.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:35

      No.

   7. BGBobby Green45:36

      Yeah. I'm like, "You can't do it again. It's not the fucking same."

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:39

      No. Oh, no.

   9. BGBobby Green45:40

      "It's not the same. It's not gonna be like it's supposed to..." So, I just come out, do the whatever. So now I'm fighting Dan. Me and Dan are fighting, and Dan doesn't know me. And I could tell Dan's got this, this fear about me. You know, I'm sorry to say it. I don't wanna talk about race like that, but there are some gentlemen, white guys, that they don't understand us Black guys exactly, you know? And, and I've been in all cultures. Like, my dad's white so I've been in every culture. I know what every, uh, what white guys think, I know what Mexican guys think, and I know what Black guys think, you know? 'Cause I've been in their cultures. Um, so I could see it on his face, you know? He's like, "Like, fuck, I gotta fight this nigga." So I'm bringing all the, the nigga shit to him. They ask me what my style is, I tell them hood. (exhales) They're like, "Well, what is that?" You know? So I th-... I wanted to throw him off personal... uh, purposely. I don't want you to know I'm a boxer 'cause if I'm a boxer, then you're gonna take me down and do jujitsu. If I say, "I do jujitsu," you're gonna stand up with me. So, I'm just gonna say, "Hood." It's street, street fighting. They don't know what it is. Let them think... Let them figure it out. We fight Dan. We're fighting, I'm beating him up, and then I give him a low blow. He takes a full five minutes. Full five minutes. Okay, cool. But I'm high as shit that we took three... It was three low blows. One of them, I'll give him one. The other two, fake as fuck 'cause Dan doesn't wanna fight. So, Tito's the announcer. Tito's like, "This guy is fucking... He's fucking acting like a motherfucker." Like, l- literally, one of them, my toe touches his hip. His... Literally his hip and he falls down. So we took him 15 minutes in the first round. It's been 15 minutes. He takes a whole break. I have no idea where time is. I'm high as shit. I'm talking to Donald Trump before he was president.

   10. JRJoe Rogan47:19

       (laughs)

   11. BGBobby Green47:19

       I'm talking to Oscar De La Hoya. I'm like, "What's up, guys?" I'm just high as shit.

   12. JRJoe Rogan47:22

       In the middle of the fight?

   13. BGBobby Green47:23

       In the middle of the fight.

   14. JRJoe Rogan47:26

       (laughs)

   15. BGBobby Green47:26

       Last fucking 10 seconds, um, he catches me in a choke. Catches me in a rear naked. Had I known where time was, I would have fucking pushed it through. But if you don't tap in, in MMA, you don't make money. Uh, you could literally get suspension. If y- if you go out and go to sleep, you get a six-month suspension.

   16. JRJoe Rogan47:43

       Really?

   17. BGBobby Green47:44

       Yes. That's the way it goes and people don't understand that.

   18. JRJoe Rogan47:46

       Oh.

   19. BGBobby Green47:46

       Like, they're always like, "Go to sleep."

   20. JRJoe Rogan47:47

       Hmm.

   21. BGBobby Green47:47

       "Go to... Why you ain't go to sleep? You need to be tough." Like, no, I'm gonna fight tomorrow.

   22. JRJoe Rogan47:52

       Right.

   23. BGBobby Green47:52

       I got another fight the next week.

   24. JRJoe Rogan47:54

       Right.

   25. BGBobby Green47:54

       I can't just let it go. I wanna be the tough guy and go out and fight it all the way out.

   26. JRJoe Rogan47:58

       Right.

   27. BGBobby Green47:58

       But if you do, you don't f-... make no more money and I got bills to do.

   28. JRJoe Rogan48:02

       That's interesting.

   29. BGBobby Green48:03

       Yeah. People don't understand that. "Go to sleep."

   30. JRJoe Rogan48:06

       So... So when people tap, in a way, if you wanna fight, if you... so if you tap, there's no suspension, right? There- there's usually a suspension?
5. 1:00:00 – 1:04:32

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. BGBobby Green1:00:00

      right away. Right away. I put them in a, in the heat of battle, in the most heat he can possibly stand. Why? 'Cause I want to know about his personality. In fighting, you get to learn about people's personalities. They tell you who they are. They'll either give up, they're- they're gonna quit, they're gonna rise to the occasion, they're gonna fight back. I need to learn about your personality. And then that tells me about everything. So I got certain guys, they'll, they'll get hit and they'll go and start going hard with another guy. I'm like, "What's going on?" Well, "Oh, he hit me." And, and, and, and it's a communication barrier. Something's, uh, oh, he's been through some things, you know? Something that's deep, dark-

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

      Mm-hmm.

   3. BGBobby Green1:00:36

      ... in his, in his past that he's dealing with-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

      Yeah.

   5. BGBobby Green1:00:38

      ... that he's, he's bringing into MMA. It's, oh, you were trying to... And when we would actually break it down, he felt like he was trying to, you were trying to hurt me, and it's a mechanism he's using to combat that he's been doing all his life.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:51

      Right.

   7. BGBobby Green1:00:51

      So fighting shows personalities, you know? Um, so I meet my new dad. He's getting me into, through all these different mentals and stuff. We're starting to get all this momentum. We're, we're getting this gym. We're building up. We're beating all these new fighters. I'm getting on this roll, and then he gets locked up. He goes to prison. My dad's never had a- any, uh, offenses. Never did anything, never been in any jail time. We were selling a car. Um, no, we were buying a car. Um, we're buying this car. He's like, "Hey, I want to buy this Mercedes. Can you drive the truck down and you'll drive the truck back and I'll dri- drive the Mercedes?" I'm like, "Cool." He's like, "Oh, it's in San Diego." "Okay, cool." So we go down there. We meet this guy. No, no, we meet this girl. She doesn't even speak English. So he gives his, the ID. He gives her, uh, a cashier's check.... and he goes to test drive the car. While he's going to get in the car, the woman takes off. She takes off, and while he gets in the car, he notices the mileage is not the same. So, if we're buying a car and it's 10,000 more miles, that changes the price on things now. So, he goes, the girl's gone. What the fuck, you know? So he's going through the paperwork. He finds the owner, calls the owner, some guy comes. We talk to him, we explain it to him, w- he said, "We're gonna fix it." We go back home. Maybe three, four weeks go by, the guy's not answering, doesn't wanna give my dad back his money. We gave him back the car, he kept the car and the money. So, next thing you know, my dad's like, "Fuck, like, he's ignoring me," blah, blah, blah. "We need to go down and we need to go, go over here and, and, and talk to him." So, I'm like, I could tell where he's going. I'm like, "All right, Dad, we're going down, we're gonna talk to him, but we need to be cool tongues. We need... we'll be... talk with no heat in our tongues. Let's just... because why? He's already got the car, he's already got the money. You're pretty much fucked. Like, 'cause you give him a cashier's check, there... it, it's just like cash."

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:02:38

      Right.

   9. BGBobby Green1:02:38

      "You can't get it back. There's... we're already fucked, so let's just try to be cool." So, I don't know why I think God made this all happen for some reason. So, we're going down to this guy's house. It's me, my dad, and a Mexican guy. And, uh, we're driving up there. By the coincidence... like, he's in this gated community, and so by coincidence, somebody else is driving in, the gate opens, we drive right behind them. We go in, you know? We find his house, we pull up to the house, we're looking at the house. He's like, "Right here." But he has another gate and cameras and stuff to actually go to his house. So, um, we're like, "If we ring the doorbell and tell him to come, he's gonna see it's us and he's not gonna come, he's not gonna answer it. He's not gonna give us our money, he's just gonna ignore us." So, by coincidence, the pizza man comes up. You know? Just, just happens to be pulling up. So, we walk up right at the same time the pizza man's coming. Now, coinci-... I told my dad, "Have a cool tongue. Be cool about it." But he's been already feeling like, "This guy's ignoring me. This..." He already knows... it's... he already... f- his feeling's up it's a scheme. "This guy's playing me out of the money. Somehow they're running some scheme where they sell cars and they do this little weird thing." And so, we go in, we're talking to the people. We're trying to talk it out. All of a sudden, the guy's saying, "Oh, I don't got the money. I don't know." He don't know anything. They're yelling back and forth, my dad and this guy. They're yelling back and forth. And now I see the situation, it's loud, we're in this white area. I don't, I don't, I don't already know what's going... police are gonna get called. So I'm like, "Hey, calm it down," you know? Next thing you know, one of... my dad headbutts the guy. Now it's went... and it's getting real serious. I'm like, "Fuck. Holy fuck." Like, I was trying to calm it, diffuse the situation. Defuse it, you know? "Hey, look, w- we know you got the money, we gave you the money. Just give him his money. You got the car, let's just go our way, guys. You know, let's just cool it down." So he's like, "All right, I got the money. It's in the house."

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