JRE MMA Show #13 with Rose Namajunas & Pat Barry

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   And we're live. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:09

      And we're live.

   2. RNRose Namajunas0:11

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      What's up?

   4. RNRose Namajunas0:12

      Oh, nothing. What's up, man?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      Thanks for doing this. Appreciate it.

   6. RNRose Namajunas0:14

      Yeah. Thanks for having me.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      I like how you're dressed. Very casual, look like-

   8. RNRose Namajunas0:18

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      ... you're like-

   10. RNRose Namajunas0:19

       It's all about comfort these days.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:20

       ... like, part, like, monk-like.

   12. RNRose Namajunas0:22

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       There's like a lot of monk-like to what you got.

   14. RNRose Namajunas0:24

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       The shaved head and the wooden beads and the whole deal.

   16. RNRose Namajunas0:27

       Yeah, yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       You know?

   18. RNRose Namajunas0:28

       I mean, I kinda decided that, like, I, ever since cutting my hair that, uh, I don't know, I'm just gonna do away with n- like not being, like not being comfortable in any area. So heels, um, you're gonna have to pay me to do that. (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       Really?

   20. RNRose Namajunas0:44

       Yeah. I don't know. It's just, uh, I'm not a big fan of heels 'cause I can't run away in them. (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       That's a good point.

   22. RNRose Namajunas0:49

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       I think that's why they made them.

   24. RNRose Namajunas0:51

       Yeah. (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       I mean, it only makes sense. Like, girls wearing tight skirts-

   26. RNRose Namajunas0:54

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       ... where y- your legs are constricted, right?

   28. RNRose Namajunas0:56

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       Or tight dresses that go down to your knees especially.

   30. RNRose Namajunas0:59

       Yeah.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   (laughs) …

   1. RNRose Namajunas15:00

      juice fast. Like, I'll, for one day I'll just drink fluids, um, and then the next day I'll sit in a hot shower and then just sweat it out. Um, 'cause I don't like to... I, I don't like to, um, dehydrate myself too much.

   2. PBPat Barry15:12

      (laughs)

   3. RNRose Namajunas15:12

      Like, I'd rather have fluids and no food than, than lots of food in my stomach and no fluids. Right.

   4. PBPat Barry15:16

      And she's talking about sweating out two pounds.

   5. RNRose Namajunas15:18

      I know, shut up. No, like, five pounds. Last time (laughs) .

   6. PBPat Barry15:21

      (laughs)

   7. RNRose Namajunas15:21

      I'm getting bigger now. Uh, this fight was... I think I was, like, 125, 130. I can't remember. I think, like, the week of the fight I was, like, 127, and, like, by the time weight cuts started I was, like, 125-ish. So you're cutting 10 pounds. Or 120.

   8. PBPat Barry15:37

      She was one, she was 119-

   9. RNRose Namajunas15:38

      Dang, I can't remember.

   10. PBPat Barry15:39

       ... 119-

   11. RNRose Namajunas15:39

       I don't even know.

   12. PBPat Barry15:40

       ... uh, when we started the weight cut. She... Rose walks around, lately, lately because of, uh, just the, just the growth in size, lately she's been walking around 125, 127.

   13. RNRose Namajunas15:50

       Yeah.

   14. PBPat Barry15:50

       But, uh, every, every fight it'll... Like, the day before weigh-in she's 118, 119.

   15. RNRose Namajunas15:53

       Yeah, by fight week I'm, like, 120. Yeah.

   16. PBPat Barry15:57

       Yeah.

   17. RNRose Namajunas15:57

       But, um-

   18. PBPat Barry15:58

       Talking about going to saunas and-

   19. RNRose Namajunas15:59

       And now-

   20. PBPat Barry15:59

       Like, "Oh, man, what are we gonna do to get this one off?" It's like, man-

   21. RNRose Namajunas16:02

       (laughs)

   22. PBPat Barry16:02

       ... go spit. (laughs)

   23. RNRose Namajunas16:04

       (laughs) So you, um, you don't have-

   24. GIGuest (unidentified brief interjection)16:06

       (coughs)

   25. PBPat Barry16:06

       ... like, a particular type of food that you like to eat the day of?

   26. RNRose Namajunas16:09

       Um-

   27. PBPat Barry16:09

       Or a k- kind of food? Like, carbohydrate rich or, like, what do you... What fruits?

   28. RNRose Namajunas16:12

       It depends on where I'm at. Mm-hmm. So, like, you know, 'cause every place has different food and, like-

   29. PBPat Barry16:16

       Right.

   30. RNRose Namajunas16:17

       ... some places it's, like, nasty food. But, um, in New York there's this, like, little smoothie shop n- across the street and there was this, like, most delicious smoothie that, like-
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   And just in life…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      but that's only for a very short period of time. The whole goal is just to make Rose a black belt in every... In grappling, wrestling, striking. Like, just-

   2. RNRose Namajunas30:08

      And just in life in general.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:09

      ... in, in interviews.

   4. RNRose Namajunas30:10

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      Everything. Just, just become a black belt. Become a master of all of it.

   6. PBPat Barry30:13

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      And that's been, that's been the goal since we started.

   8. RNRose Namajunas30:15

      Like, even, um, another... Like he was saying, the mentality of this last training camp, it wasn't just like, uh, you know, "Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna journal," which I do, you know, journal a lot. Or I'll, like... You know, like we talk about just doing, like, a float tank or something like that. Like, those little mental exercises are great, but also, like, um-

   9. PBPat Barry30:32

      Whoo.

   10. RNRose Namajunas30:32

       ... uh, working on creativity. What's up?

   11. PBPat Barry30:34

       I was about to say, I, I just, I was just doing the number of ice baths you took.

   12. RNRose Namajunas30:37

       Oh, yeah. I did a lot-

   13. PBPat Barry30:38

       (laughs)

   14. RNRose Namajunas30:38

       ... of ice baths. Ice b-... Yeah. Ugh.

   15. PBPat Barry30:40

       Every day.

   16. RNRose Namajunas30:40

       The last one was the worst.

   17. PBPat Barry30:42

       Every day.

   18. RNRose Namajunas30:42

       Like, that's a... I, uh, the last-

   19. PBPat Barry30:44

       Every day, every day. But, like, every day to a point where it actually became challenging for me to get the water colder 'cause I was like, "This is ridiculous."

   20. RNRose Namajunas30:51

       (laughs) Yeah.

   21. PBPat Barry30:51

       How she can get in and within under... Now it's gotten to a point now it's been under 25 seconds. Like, the... You know, when you first get in, it's like ha, ha, ha, ha, boom.

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:57

       Right.

   23. PBPat Barry30:58

       Like, it's under 20 seconds.

   24. RNRose Namajunas30:59

       The last-

   25. PBPat Barry30:59

       Under 20 seconds and she's just stone-faced. It's just amazing.

   26. RNRose Namajunas31:02

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:02

       Mm-hmm.

   28. RNRose Namajunas31:03

       The last one that I did, like, it was hurting so bad I was, like, crying. Like, I never had ice baths where I started crying, like, 'cause it hurt so bad. But anyway, like... Yeah, so that and then on t-

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       Do you find a lot of benefit from that?

   30. RNRose Namajunas31:15

       Yeah.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Well, I'm, I'm a…

   1. PBPat Barry45:00

      man.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      Well, I'm, I'm a curious person.

   3. PBPat Barry45:01

      Right?

   4. RNRose Namajunas45:01

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:01

      What's a earthship?

   6. RNRose Namajunas45:02

      An earthship is a self-sustaining house that, um, is built off of, like, recycled materials and, uh, there's a, there's a documentary on it called, uh, Garbage Warriors.

   7. PBPat Barry45:12

      Oh.

   8. RNRose Namajunas45:12

      And, um, this dude, Michael Reynolds, he's in, uh, New Mexico, and he, he fought against legislation, like, in a, in a community to make a earthship community. And, um-

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:23

      In New Mexico?

   10. RNRose Namajunas45:24

       Yeah, and so, like, he fought ... I don't ... I can't remember how long it was, but, like, like, 40 years or something crazy. Like, went to, to court, like, "We need to have this because ..." You know. A- and they just wouldn't let him, you know? So they ... He eventually got it, I think built the entire community and, and it's cool. You can go there and, like, check it out in Taos, New Mexico. It's, it's awesome. And you can, like, rent some and stay in it and just check it out.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:44

       It's kinda like-

   12. PBPat Barry45:44

       It's kinda like off-grid living.

   13. RNRose Namajunas45:45

       It looks like Star Wars.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       Ah.

   15. RNRose Namajunas45:46

       Like, it's ridiculous.

   16. PBPat Barry45:47

       Houses built into the ground by tires and-

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:49

       You got something, Jamie?

   18. RNRose Namajunas45:49

       (laughs)

   19. PBPat Barry45:50

       Yeah, Jamie's gonna pull something up.

   20. RNRose Namajunas45:51

       Yeah.

   21. PBPat Barry45:51

       Oh, Jesus-

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:52

       Yup.

   23. PBPat Barry45:52

       ... Christ. Look at these fucking houses.

   24. JRJoe Rogan45:53

       Yup.

   25. RNRose Namajunas45:53

       They're cool.

   26. PBPat Barry45:54

       Yup. They're cool as a mug, man.

   27. RNRose Namajunas45:55

       And then you can have, like, aquaponics-

   28. JRJoe Rogan45:56

       I need to get ... Go to New Mexico.

   29. PBPat Barry45:57

       Yeah.

   30. RNRose Namajunas45:57

       Dude, it's cool.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:01:47

   Right. …

   1. RNRose Namajunas1:00:00

      handling and it is like very, um, one-on-one kinda, uh, deal, uh, where it's not like I have hundreds of training partners and I go to this, you know, like ATT for example-

   2. PBPat Barry1:00:09

      Right.

   3. RNRose Namajunas1:00:09

      ... they have like hundreds of people there.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:11

      Mm-hmm.

   5. RNRose Namajunas1:00:11

      And, um, you know, like I just have these guys, so-

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:14

      Right.

   7. RNRose Namajunas1:00:15

      Yeah. So it's good to appreciate your coaches, that's for sure.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

      It really is, you know, it really is. It's, um, it's, uh, it's such a unusual relationship, the relationship between a fighter and a coach. It's, uh-

   9. RNRose Namajunas1:00:25

      Yeah. I mean, like, uh, once I, once I finally, um, you know, once I finally went through kind of just my different learning lessons, like after I fought Carolina I didn't have him in my corner. And like after, like I realized that that was, you know, the missing link. And we, it, it's just something that I realized, you know, if I can't do it with these guys, then I don't wanna do it no more.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:45

       Right.

   11. RNRose Namajunas1:00:46

       You know? 'Cause it just, it's all about being happy. It's all about, um, what makes you happy. I mean, you ever notice how like kids never get tired or like they can just run around in circles for forever? And it's 'cause they're having fun doing it, and so that's the, that's where the training is based, is like whatever makes you happy.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       Now, when you look at your future and you say, "I'm the champ now"-

   13. RNRose Namajunas1:01:06

       Mm-hmm.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:01:07

       ... do you have a roadmap that you have, like, "I wanna retire in 10 years. I wanna get this, I wanna accomplish these things." Do you have-

   15. RNRose Namajunas1:01:15

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:01:15

       ... anything like that? Or you just playing it by ear?

   17. RNRose Namajunas1:01:16

       I'm like, yeah, like I- I like to have a plan and then if things change and, you know, that's fine, you know, you kinda have to be able to adapt. Um, I plan on not fighting longer than five years from now.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:29

       Really?

   19. RNRose Namajunas1:01:30

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:30

       How old are you now?

   21. RNRose Namajunas1:01:31

       25.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:32

       So 30, that's a wrap?

   23. RNRose Namajunas1:01:33

       Yeah. I don't want to fight in my 30s. I mean, I could, you know, by the time that comes around, like, like time flies. Like I could be-

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:39

       (laughs)

   25. RNRose Namajunas1:01:39

       ... 30 years old and be like, "Fuck that. I'm getting some more fights."

   26. PBPat Barry1:01:42

       Seven more fights, dawg. One more. Just- (laughs)

   27. RNRose Namajunas1:01:43

       Yeah. I don't know. Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:43

       Well, it's also, you have the potential to be a fucking huge star.

Episode duration: 1:38:55