The Joe Rogan ExperienceJRE MMA Show #159 with Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
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(drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast.…
- NANarrator
(drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) What's up, Quentin?
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
What's up, man?
- JRJoe Rogan
How's it going? Good to see you, sir.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Yeah. Good to see you.
- JRJoe Rogan
Salud. Cheers.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Good to be here.
- JRJoe Rogan
So tell me about your drink. What is this called? It's called F3?
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Yeah, F3. It's, um, it's a newer energy drink. It got, like, um, (cap pops) supplements and stuff in it, BCAAs.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, this is good. (cap snaps)
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, ginseng, BCAAs, theanine, okay, good for the brain.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
What the hell is theanine? I don't know what that-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a nootropic. It's in, uh, this gum.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
This gum, NeuroGum.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I take a bunch of different brain supplements.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Does it make your dick hard, though?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, doesn't help there.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Oh. I've been looking for something.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's other stuff for that.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? (laughs)
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
But, but how good would it be if you can drink dick hardener?
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm sure they have it. I'm sure there's, like, a, a Viagra soda somewhere-
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Man.
- JRJoe Rogan
... Thailand or some shit. (laughs)
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- 15:00 – 30:00
I- I'll tell you-…
- JRJoe Rogan
was. He really was. He was tough.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
I- I'll tell you-
- JRJoe Rogan
Very good jiu-jitsu, strong as hell.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
... I was losing that fight up until then because he was kicking the shit out of my leg.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
And I didn't wanna check that. I didn't wanna check that. H- his kicks was coming so hard. I've- I- I fought K-1 and I fought a lot of kickboxers but his kicks is the hardest by far.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow, really?
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Oh, yeah. I was- I was act- every time he would kick me, I was acting like it didn't hurt. And after the third kick, I remember thinking in my head like, "I don't know if I can keep acting like this shit don't hurt."
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Because I didn't want to show him in my face.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
But it... Got the hardest leg kicks I ever felt.
- JRJoe Rogan
Have you seen that new stupid thing that they're doing, like slap fight?
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Yeah. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Where they leg kick each other?
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
No, I haven't. No, no, no, no. I haven't seen that shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is a new one. Have you seen it, Jamie?
- NANarrator
I didn't see it, no, but...
- JRJoe Rogan
I could send it to you if you want me to. I sent it to Dana. It's, uh, yeah, they're having slap fight competitions but leg kicks.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
That's-
- JRJoe Rogan
These dudes just standing in front of each other just teeing off leg kicks.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
That's dangerous.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ugh. It's horrible.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Man, y- yeah, that could-
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you find it, Jamie? I'll send it to you.
- NANarrator
Oh. How Kyokushin.
- JRJoe Rogan
Here you go.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
That can fuck you up real bad.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, it's rough. It's rough to watch. And some guys are kicking, like, right... You're supposed to kick the thigh but some guys are kicking really kind of like right above the knee, and buckling... And you just stand there, you can't even move. You have to just eat it.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Hmm. I wouldn't... I would... No, that's not my shit. How you feel about that slap fighting, though?
- 30:00 – 45:00
Oh. …
- JRJoe Rogan
So, uh, Hoyce beat Sakuraba, but then tested positive. He was supposed to be on the card. Ray Sefo and Marvin Eastbun dropped from the card with no explanation given. He was supposed to be on the card and Gina Carano.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh. And Joey Morton. Gina Carano. So that wa- that was at K-1, right? Uh. Yeah. That was, like, up until... And Brock Lesnar won real quick. That was his first fight ever.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. But so Crazy Horse was backstage and I guess all the shoot the box guys got into it with Crazy Horse and, uh, didn't Christian Marcello-... he, I think he choked Crazy Horse out, right?
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
With a triangle.
- JRJoe Rogan
Put him in a triangle-
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... afterwards too.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Yeah. I heard this story, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So Crazy Horse apparently knocked out Wanderlei, and then got choked out, and then w- he went and fought, and, or had d- had he already fought?
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
I don't, I don't remember, but I heard Wanderlei fought, after he got knocked out.
- JRJoe Rogan
He did, after he got-
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
And won.
- JRJoe Rogan
... out, out cold, fought and won. But won by decision.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Who, who did he fight that time, you remember?
- JRJoe Rogan
Let's find out. Let me see Wanderlei's record. I'll tell you when I see it, because you could tell he was, like, fighting a little cautious.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, like maybe didn't want to get hit.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Bro, that's crazy. What if they had cameras back there in the locker rooms?
- JRJoe Rogan
I think there is video footage of it. I'm pretty f- sure there's footage. There's definitely footage of Marcelo, uh, choking out Crazy Horse, 'cause he gets him in a triangle with his jeans on. I remember watching it. Like '07, right? Is that what we were looking at? Yeah. It wasn't Mirko Cro Cop. I think it might've been Fujita. Nope, that's not it, be- because he won that one by soccer kicks.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Does he have any that he won by decision? Right here?
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Maybe it was... No, he lost to Arona? Is it tha- is that possible? That it was that...
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
May- maybe you should look for the same card with, uh, Crazy Horse-
- JRJoe Rogan
He lost to him and then he beat him. He lost to Arona and then he beat him. Decision split. I wonder if it was that one. And then he went-
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
2005.
- JRJoe Rogan
... defending the cham- the belt, so... Wonder if it's that one. Pride Sho- pr- click on Pride Shockwave 2005. Let's see. Who else is on that card? Is Crazy Horse on that card? Charles Bennett.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Yeah.
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
Whoa. …
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
uh, so I got to Japan that, I think that Tuesday and the fight was that Sunday, so I, I think I broke my fast. I, I, so I think I ... It was like, uh, four days before the fight when I, when I ended my fast, but I think I fasted for three or four days.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Yeah. I never did that shit again.
- JRJoe Rogan
And you were training while you were fasting?
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
How bad was that?
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Bro, I was on anot- I was in another place. It was the weirdest, weirdest thing. I, I didn't have to cut weight. That's my first time never had, I didn't have to cut weight before my fight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
I thought that was a good thing. But I, I thought I was doing good. I was winning the fight, then I got knocked the fuck out and I, I, I tried to cop it up to me, um, fasting. That's my, that's my excuse, I think.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it certainly would've drained your body to not eat for three days. (clears throat) I mean, if you're going for performance, and they say it does, it's healthy for your body every now and then to take a few days off-
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and not consume any food, but not before a fight.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Not before a fight, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
No. I mean, I wouldn't even say before camp. I would, I mean, I would say make it to like, you're out. Like, you, you got time.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Yeah. I've, I be trying to fast now for health reasons and I can't, I can't even get past two days now.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah?
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Yeah. Can't do it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you eat a lot of carbohydrates?
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
No. I, I cut that shit out.
- JRJoe Rogan
(clears throat) Yeah?
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Remember, I got super fat.
- JRJoe Rogan
You-
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Espec- especially my last fight with Fedor, my God.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
I got, I got super fat. I got, uh, mixed diagnosed with, with hypothyroid.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
And they had me on this fucking medicine and shit, and that shit fucked me up, man. Uh, I started training with this, um, this crazy social media, uh, guy, uh, name's Sean Rez. He's been my friend for years. I met him from, from one of my other friends. And I, I used to always see him. We used to kick it and party and stuff like that, you know, go out drinking and we eating up at his house with girls and stuff and hang out, and he was always ripped, like a Persian guy, but he, he looked like a fucking Viking, right? So one day I asked the guy, I'm like, "Man, how in the fuck you stay ripped like that all year round?" He, and he told me, he said, "Man, this is what I do." I said, "You on that shit, ain't you?" He said, "No, I ain't on shit." And he said, "I, I, I do two hours of cardio." He, he works out like two or three times a day and he don't eat carbs.
- JRJoe Rogan
How of- Jesus Christ.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Yeah. That's my, that's my trainer, that's my coach, man. He changed my fucking life, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
Damn.
- 1:00:00 – 1:04:18
Narcisse Marbod? Yeah, he's…
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
seen?
- JRJoe Rogan
Narcisse Marbod? Yeah, he's big.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Yeah, he's big. Like a lot of fighters go through that, like, um, Ricky Hatton. I think he got his, his self under control now. But he used to blow up, and that, that fucks you up.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but it's also like fighters, when they're not training and they're not fighting anymore, they just start eating.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Oh, man. Yeah, I was bad for that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, they just eat like crazy.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
You enjoy yourself, 'cause you had to be so disciplined-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
... in training camps. And then after that, you just, you just, uh, I o- I just always say, "Oh, I'm just gonna enjoy myself for like a week, then get back, and I'm never gonna get fat again."
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
I used to say that shit all the time.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Two weeks, bro. Two weeks, I'm back fucking fat as fuck.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
It's crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Isn't it crazy how quick it gets back on you?
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Especially if you're eating pizza and bullshit, and if you're drinking.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Oh, yeah, drinking.
- JRJoe Rogan
Drinking is number one.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, drinking, drinking puts it on you quick, and I think that's where Ricky, Ricky Hatton was having a little bit of a problem.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That happens with a lot of fighters, especially, uh, guys who've got some brain damage. You know, they, they really crave alcohol, you know?
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's something about, um, your dopamine levels drop. And like, when, when you've had significant amount of brain damage, you know, you've been KO'd a bunch of times, a lot of guys lean towards alcohol to make them feel better.
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
But it's all... You know, some people get KO'd and they're fine. Like-
- QJQuinton "Rampage" Jackson
Like those K- those K-1 guys.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
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