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JRE MMA Show #169 - Protect Ya Neck

Joe is joined by mixed martial artists John Rallo, Matt Serra, and Din Thomas. John owns Shogun Fights and also serves as the owner and head coach at Ground Control Mixed Martial Arts Academy. Matt is the host of the "UFC Unfiltered" podcast with Jim Norton and is the owner and lead instructor at Serra BJJ. Din is a mixed martial arts analyst, actor, and host of "FightCourt." https://www.groundcontrolbaltimore.com https://www.serrabjj.com https://www.youtube.com/@FightCourt Get a free welcome kit with your first subscription of AG1 at https://drinkag1.com/joerogan Visit https://www.squarespace.com/ROGAN to save 10% off your first purchase of a website.

Matt SerraguestJoe RoganhostJohn RalloguestDin Thomasguest
Aug 14, 20253h 2mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:0015:00

    (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast,…

    1. NA

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. MS

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) You good?

    4. JR

      We're up. We're up.

    5. MS

      (laughs) What? Hey, guys. (laughs) We're back. (laughs)

    6. JR

      Uh. It's just like getting pulled over by the cops, the window rolls down.

    7. MS

      (laughs)

    8. JR

      The cop's like-

    9. NA

      (laughs)

    10. JR

      ... "What the fuck were you doing?"

    11. NA

      Shit. Joe, I took, I took one hit of that shit. That shit was strong as hell. I feel high already.

    12. JR

      Mm-hmm. That's good for you, D. It's good for you. Opens your mind. It's the right stuff. Yeah, there's some talk about, uh, Trump legalizing marijuana now.

    13. NA

      Right?

    14. JR

      That would be amazing.

    15. MS

      That, I mean, it kinda feels like it is legal right now.

    16. JR

      Well, it should be. It's so stupid. It's so da- we're- I can't believe we're still dealing with this. I mean, I would've thought by the time, I just turned 58, I would've thought by the time I'm 58, we would've figured this out.

    17. JR

      Right?

    18. MS

      Ca- can I tell you, when I, with my ulcerative colitis, it always ca- uh, we always start with my ass for some reason.

    19. NA

      (laughs)

    20. JR

      (laughs)

    21. NA

      (laughs)

    22. MS

      But with my ulcerative colitis, after my co-colonoscopy one time, the doctor's like, "Well, uh, there's this pill you could take. It, it could affect your liver, but not for many years. Like, not for..." Now, this was when I was like 39. I'm 51 now. I w- I'd be, I'd be going to Columbia for stem cells for my fucking liver at this point.

    23. JR

      Liver, right?

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. MS

      So what I do is the natural stuff, and it does help me. It just, it just helps, and I don't have to... If that's not fucking up my liver or anything.

    26. JR

      Bro, it would ru- it would take the place of so many different pharmaceutical drugs, and that's a big part of the problem.

    27. MS

      (laughs)

    28. JR

      (laughs)

    29. JR

      The other part of the problem is the alcohol industry. The alcohol industry...

    30. MS

      Oh, yeah, that would suffer for sure, right? Yeah.

  2. 15:0030:00

    Oh. …

    1. MS

      they have, you can get ricotta gnocchis. So they're made with ricotta cheese and-

    2. JR

      Oh.

    3. MS

      ... you know, it's like maybe five grams of carbs in a thing of, uh, of gnocchi.

    4. JR

      Yeah, you could cheat it out, but if you really want to get fucking blasted with some carbs-

    5. (laughs)

    6. MS

      (laughs)

    7. JR

      ... lasagna will do you in.

    8. Oh, hell yeah, son.

    9. MS

      Lasagna.

    10. JR

      Lasagna will do you in.

    11. MS

      Lasagna. Love lasagna.

    12. JR

      Oh my God, there's something about Italian food when I'm really hungry, I just can't help it. I don't care about my diet, fuck it.

    13. The sauces and all that stuff, yeah, it gets you.

    14. MS

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      It gets you.

    16. It gets you.

    17. MS

      You know Joe DeRosa, the comedian?

    18. JR

      Yeah, he tells... He told me.

    19. MS

      He's got a place called Joey Rosa's, it's a sandwich shop, and Joey Rosa's, they import all their flour.

    20. JR

      There you go. That's the thing.

    21. MS

      And it's the same thing, they br- they make their bread fresh every day, and it, they throw it out at the end of the day. They never use stale bread, and they never use any preservatives, and he's like, "That's the difference, like you can eat these sandwiches and you feel good."

    22. JR

      Mm.

    23. Yeah, dude. I'm, I'm telling you.

    24. MS

      It's cra- it's crazy that that's rare.

    25. JR

      I mean...

    26. Isn't that weird?

    27. That-

    28. MS

      That-

    29. JR

      That should not be how you consume food. You know what I'm saying? Like, you should be feeling good after you eat all the time.

    30. MS

      Yeah.

  3. 30:0045:00

    Nice fucking, that's a…

    1. JR

      point, that's a good point.

    2. MS

      Nice fucking, that's a good point.

    3. JR

      Yeah.

    4. MS

      Good point.

    5. JR

      That's true. You get an infection back then-

    6. MS

      Mm-hmm.

    7. JR

      ... you get staph, that's a wrap.

    8. MS

      Syphilis.

    9. Yep.

    10. JR

      Oh.

    11. MS

      Done by 35 over there.

    12. JR

      Yeah, but the syphilis thing is really nuts though. But that is why that, that stupid fucking thing that that-

    13. MS

      It's crazy.

    14. JR

      ... guy was wearing on his head. That's what that is.

    15. MS

      So, so that's the traditi- uh, tradition-

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. MS

      ... based off of syphilis and they still do this shit today.

    18. Today.

    19. JR

      Yeah, and the guys with the most money had the biggest wigs and that's why they called them bigwigs.

    20. MS

      Bigwigs. (laughs)

    21. JR

      It all started with these two brothers that were royals. It was it brother or the guy and his cousin? I forget. But the- these guys who were royals in France and, uh, these guys were like, you know, the socialites. They were the, the celebrated people. And they started losing their hair 'cause they're freaks, you know?

    22. MS

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      They're probably fucking up a storm over there.

    24. MS

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      And they're catching syphilis and they got holes in their face and shit and they smell awful and their fucking hair is falling out. So they just get a wig. And then other dudes say, "I wanna be like him," so they got wigs. And then a bunch of people started getting syphilis and they covered it up with wigs.

    26. MS

      But that's crazy to me that you're like almost celebrating having syphilis by getting a bigger wig.

    27. JR

      Wig. Well, you know what it is? It's like you're not celebrating syphilis, but since everybody's wearing a wig, your wig is the dopest wig.

    28. MS

      Yeah. (laughs)

    29. That's right.

    30. JR

      (laughs)

  4. 45:001:00:00

    Right. …

    1. JR

      books.

    2. MS

      Right.

    3. JR

      So you, you come up with a superhero type character now in a movie. No one's gonna watch it.

    4. MS

      Right.

    5. JR

      Like, I don't want... I don't want a new one. No one wants a new one.

    6. MS

      Right.

    7. JR

      Everyone wants The Hulk, everybody wants Spider-Man. You wanna see Spider-Man.

    8. MS

      Right.

    9. JR

      There's like... How many different dudes have been the Hulk?

    10. MS

      See, Thor.

    11. JR

      Like four or five dudes have been the Hulk.

    12. MS

      Yeah, they kept changing the Hulk.

    13. JR

      Bunch of dudes have been Spider-Man.

    14. MS

      Should've kept Edward, that Edward man was good.

    15. JR

      Ed Norton was the best.

    16. MS

      They got rid of him 'cause he wanted to keep the Hulk like the Hulk-

    17. JR

      I liked what he did.

    18. MS

      Yeah.

    19. You know what I mean? They, they didn't like him when he was...

    20. JR

      They said smack him and... Yeah. (laughs)

    21. MS

      Yeah. Right, right. (laughs)

    22. (laughs)

    23. It's like... It's true.

    24. JR

      That was my favorite version of the Hulk.

    25. MS

      Yeah.

    26. That's great.

    27. JR

      The Ed Norton movie.

    28. MS

      When he's running through the favelas in Brazil, right?

    29. JR

      Yeah.

    30. MS

      Yeah.

  5. 1:00:001:04:07

    Yeah. …

    1. JR

      hard work, it's just hard work."

    2. MS

      Yeah.

    3. (laughs)

    4. JR

      I believe that, but man...

    5. MS

      You have a state of mind too, like, mental... He believes it mentally, but you know-

    6. JR

      But it's just the amount of hard work is extraordinary to get to that level. And I think Dricus is kind of a, a similar thing.

    7. MS

      Yeah, that kind of guy.

    8. JR

      I think that dude works so hard that he can go out there and fight full blast, which is wh- it's weird to, when you watch him fight, like sometimes it doesn't look as clean.

    9. MS

      Yeah, he looks like he's mouth breathing...

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. MS

      But he just keeps the same pace.

    12. JR

      But that was part of, that was the earlier fights before he got his nose fixed.

    13. MS

      Ah.

    14. JR

      So he got his nose fixed.

    15. MS

      All right.

    16. JR

      So he could breathe out of his nose.

    17. MS

      All right, well, makes sense.

    18. JR

      Changed everything, and then was, went on a tear after that, was, that's when he crushed Whittaker. Like, the Whittaker one was shocking.

    19. MS

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      'Cause we all know how durable Whittaker is.

    21. MS

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      The Yoel Romero fights, like that guy's durable as fuck. To watch him just flatten him like that you're like, "Whoa."

    23. MS

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      "Hang on."

    25. MS

      He's funny, he says, he goes, I don't, uh, he's like, "I don't have a, a great poker face." He goes, "People say I look tired 'cause I am tired."

    26. Right.

    27. "And when you get tired, you breathe out of your mouth more." And he goes, "But even if I am tired, I, I don't have a poker face, but I'm still coming forward."

    28. Exactly.

    29. "I'm still gonna..." So and he has, he's got, man, he's got confidence, he's beaming with confi- he's just that guy.

    30. Yeah.

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