Matt Serra & Din Thomas on Joe Rogan: Why eye pokes persist

1. 0:00 – 0:02

   Intro

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      [upbeat music]

2. 0:02 – 0:33

   Crew check-in and the Tommy Lee connection

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.

   2. SPSpeaker0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day.

   4. DTDin Thomas0:10

      [upbeat music] Hello, boys.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      My man.

   6. DTDin Thomas0:13

      Hey, what's up, brother?

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Good to see you. [laughs]

   8. SPSpeaker0:15

      We're back in action.

   9. DTDin Thomas0:16

      [laughs]

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:17

       We're back. [laughs]

   11. SPSpeaker0:18

       We're back.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:20

       [laughs]

   13. SPSpeaker0:20

       We were just talking and I told Rallo-

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       I called to get on

   15. SPSpeaker0:23

       ... I told Rallo, "Save this for the air." 'Cause Rallo, years ago, shit, this had to be, like, at least 10 years ago.

   16. DTDin Thomas0:29

       Oh, no, 20.

   17. SPSpeaker0:30

       20 years ago?

   18. DTDin Thomas0:30

       That was like 2006, 2007.

   19. SPSpeaker0:32

       That's crazy.

   20. DTDin Thomas0:33

       Yeah, dude.

3. 0:33 – 6:46

   Tommy Lee vs. Kid Rock: from relationship drama to a UFC pay-per-view pitch

   1. SPSpeaker0:33

      So 20 years ago, Rallo calls me up [laughs] and he says, "Tommy Lee wants to meet you. He wants to talk to you about something." I go, "Okay, sure." So we go to see his concert. That was when he was at Rock and Roll Supernova, the TV show.

   2. DTDin Thomas0:43

      Yeah, the TV show, that's right.

   3. SPSpeaker0:44

      So he had a TV show and-

   4. DTDin Thomas0:45

      It was at Long Beach.

   5. SPSpeaker0:46

      Right, right. It was a good show.

   6. DTDin Thomas0:47

      You, you, you and Eddie came.

   7. SPSpeaker0:48

      Me and Eddie Bravo came. And then, uh, afterwards... First of all, Tommy Lee has the dopest green room. Like, he sets his green room up like a fucking after-hours party.

   8. DTDin Thomas0:57

      Yeah, he has a mansion. [laughs]

   9. SPSpeaker0:57

      He's got, like, tapestries on the wall, and candles, and lights.

   10. DTDin Thomas1:01

       Incense.

   11. SPSpeaker1:01

       Yeah, you walk in, you're like, "Damn." Like, he doesn't just-

   12. DTDin Thomas1:03

       His DJ gear.

   13. SPSpeaker1:04

       Yeah, he doesn't just walk into a cold green room. Like, I'm lazy.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       Right, you got a... Yeah.

   15. SPSpeaker1:09

       If I go on the road, I just g- "What, what's your green room? I'll go hang out in there."

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:12

       Right.

   17. SPSpeaker1:12

       It's like, it doesn't... just walk. But he has it set up. Like, everywhere is, like, calm, and relaxing, and spiritual. And, uh, so I meet Tommy, and Tommy wants to fight Kid Rock in the UFC.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:24

       [laughs]

   19. DTDin Thomas1:24

       [laughs] This-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:25

       [laughs] Wow.

   21. SPSpeaker1:25

       This was true. This was-

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:26

       What makes people think they can do this?

   23. DTDin Thomas1:28

       It's what Pam Anderson's heart.

   24. SPSpeaker1:29

       Yeah, well.

   25. DTDin Thomas1:30

       No, wait. This is how it started.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:31

       Is that when everyone-

   27. SPSpeaker1:31

       Pam Anderson

   28. DTDin Thomas1:31

       This is kinda how it started.

   29. SPSpeaker1:33

       That was that way with Pam.

   30. DTDin Thomas1:35

       Yeah.
4. 6:46 – 12:26

   The Ultimate Fighter era and remembering prime legends (Diego Sanchez, BJ Penn)

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:46

      Do you think, uh, if it wasn't for The Ultimate Fighter it would've died out?

   2. JRJoe Rogan6:50

      Who knows, man? But it was like lightning in a bottle.

   3. DTDin Thomas6:53

      Psh.

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:53

      Because there was another good fight before that. Diego Sanchez fucked Kenny Florian up, man. It was-

   5. DTDin Thomas6:57

      Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan6:58

      That was, that was a one-way beating. [laughs]

   7. DTDin Thomas7:01

      Yeah. That was, yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan7:01

      But that was Diego Sanchez coming up.

   9. DTDin Thomas7:03

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan7:03

       Like, people got to see Diego fight too many fights. They got to see the later fights. They forgot what a monster Diego was-

   11. DTDin Thomas7:09

       Yeah, he was tough

   12. JRJoe Rogan7:09

       ... in his prime. He w-

   13. JRJoe Rogan7:10

       And if you wanna-

   14. JRJoe Rogan7:11

       Cardio animal

   15. DTDin Thomas7:12

       Yeah

   16. JRJoe Rogan7:12

       ... question his grappling, I mean, Marcelo got him, but, you know, he, he hung-

   17. JRJoe Rogan7:16

       It was a scramble

   18. JRJoe Rogan7:16

       ... with one of the best of all time.

   19. JRJoe Rogan7:17

       Yeah, he's-

   20. DTDin Thomas7:17

       You know?

   21. JRJoe Rogan7:17

       Just at ADCC.

   22. JRJoe Rogan7:18

       Yeah.

   23. DTDin Thomas7:19

       Yeah. Is he doing okay?

   24. JRJoe Rogan7:19

       Diego was a fucking... I don't know.

   25. DTDin Thomas7:22

       He's been a r-

   26. JRJoe Rogan7:22

       Yeah, yeah.

   27. DTDin Thomas7:22

       Listen, man. You can only get hit so many times.

   28. JRJoe Rogan7:25

       Agreed. And he was at halfway gone before taking all those shots.

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:28

       Well, he was always, like, this open-minded, weird thinker

   30. JRJoe Rogan7:31

       Very eccentric guy. Yeah
5. 12:26 – 19:47

   Rule debates: knees to downed opponents, oblique kicks, and the steel cup loophole

   1. JRJoe Rogan12:26

      That is nuts. But if... Is that legal? No.

   2. DTDin Thomas12:28

      Nah, nah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan12:29

      There's a lot of goofy rules, right? Like, that's, there's a... I don't think it would be cool to stomp people in the head and soccer kick them.

   4. DTDin Thomas12:36

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan12:37

      But at least knees to the head-

   6. DTDin Thomas12:39

      Knees to the head should be okay

   7. JRJoe Rogan12:40

      ... I agree with that.

   8. DTDin Thomas12:41

      I agree with that.

   9. DTDin Thomas12:41

      For sure

   10. JRJoe Rogan12:41

       Because if you're shooting on a single, and you're holding onto it, and your head's right there, that's a stupid place to be in real life.

   11. DTDin Thomas12:48

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan12:48

       Right?

   13. DTDin Thomas12:49

       Right.

   14. JRJoe Rogan12:49

       Let's just, real life, a real fight, why wouldn't the guy knee you in the head? You're grabbing his knee. If he's, you're, you're all him right here, all he has to do is knee you in the face, and he can't do it-

   15. DTDin Thomas12:58

       Yeah

   16. JRJoe Rogan12:58

       ... because you're on your knees.

   17. DTDin Thomas13:00

       And let's be fair, like, a knee when somebody's on their feet is worse than that.

   18. JRJoe Rogan13:05

       Yes.

   19. DTDin Thomas13:05

       You know what I'm saying? Like, that's not as bad.

   20. DTDin Thomas13:06

       Oh, yeah, there's way more behind it.

   21. DTDin Thomas13:07

       Yeah, that's not as like-

   22. JRJoe Rogan13:08

       Yeah

   23. DTDin Thomas13:08

       ... if, if, if you're on the floor and I knee you in the head, that's still not as bad as if me just kneeing you right in the face.

   24. JRJoe Rogan13:14

       Yes.

   25. DTDin Thomas13:14

       With, on, yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan13:15

       Well, especially if you're like the Mi- Michael Venom Page fight, the one with the cyborg knees.

   27. DTDin Thomas13:20

       Oh.

   28. DTDin Thomas13:20

       Oh, yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan13:21

       Cyborg knees.

   30. DTDin Thomas13:22

       Jesus Christ.
6. 19:47 – 21:57

   Coaching and celebrity training: Mark DellaGrotte, Kevin James, and gym culture

   1. MSMatt Serra19:47

      Well, he's my man. I, I go to Boston to stay with him.

   2. JRJoe Rogan19:50

      Oh, I love that dude.

   3. MSMatt Serra19:50

      Yeah, yeah. And his, his wife always cooks for me.

   4. JRJoe Rogan19:52

      I love that dude.

   5. MSMatt Serra19:52

      What a great bunch of people.

   6. JRJoe Rogan19:54

      He's a trooper on the, on the Ultimate Fighter.

   7. JRJoe Rogan19:54

      He's a maniac.

   8. JRJoe Rogan19:55

      I love that dude.

   9. MSMatt Serra19:56

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan19:56

       On the Ultimate Fighter IV, we didn't have assigned coaches, and he would just work with us, like, any time we needed him.

   11. MSMatt Serra20:01

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan20:02

       You know what I mean? He was great.

   13. MSMatt Serra20:03

       He's crazy.

   14. JRJoe Rogan20:03

       And he would let us tackle him and fucking mount him and fu- You know what I mean?

   15. MSMatt Serra20:07

       Yeah, he was awesome.

   16. JRJoe Rogan20:07

       'Cause he would jiu-jitsu as well. Yeah, he's great, Mark. He's a good dude.

   17. MSMatt Serra20:10

       He's a really good coach, too.

   18. JRJoe Rogan20:11

       Yeah.

   19. MSMatt Serra20:11

       You know who, who was really impressive working with him was Kevin James. You know, Kevin James, you know, you think of him as the King of Queens.

   20. JRJoe Rogan20:19

       Yeah.

   21. MSMatt Serra20:19

       He worked with Mark a lot.

   22. JRJoe Rogan20:20

       Mm-hmm.

   23. MSMatt Serra20:20

       And Kevin's been my friend for years. I, but I really hadn't seen him hit pads. I saw him hit, hit pads with Delagrotte. I was like, "What the fuck, dude?"

   24. JRJoe Rogan20:28

       Mm.

   25. MSMatt Serra20:28

       I'm like, "That's good." Like, "This looks good."

   26. JRJoe Rogan20:30

       Nice.

   27. MSMatt Serra20:30

       And he, he's like-

   28. JRJoe Rogan20:31

       Mark will make you look good. Mark will make you look good.

   29. MSMatt Serra20:33

       Mark's a good fucking coach, man.

   30. JRJoe Rogan20:34

       Yeah, for sure.
7. 21:57 – 29:47

   Game of Thrones breakdown: why the world works (and where the ending didn’t)

   1. MSMatt Serra21:57

      Hey, did you ever see The, The, The Knight of the Seven Kingdoms?

   2. JRJoe Rogan22:01

      No, I haven't seen that yet.

   3. MSMatt Serra22:02

      Oh, I'm telling you.

   4. JRJoe Rogan22:03

      I'm gonna watch it, though, because I'm in the middle of finishing the first season of Game... Uh, the first year, the first, all Game of Thrones.

   5. MSMatt Serra22:10

      Oh, yeah, yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan22:10

      The first-

   7. MSMatt Serra22:10

      What, you're doing it over?

   8. JRJoe Rogan22:11

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   9. MSMatt Serra22:12

      Oh, you've seen it already.

   10. JRJoe Rogan22:12

       I, but I haven't seen it since, like, 2015 or '11.

   11. MSMatt Serra22:15

       But it's awesome.

   12. JRJoe Rogan22:16

       I don't remember.

   13. JRJoe Rogan22:16

       Oh, the show is amazing.

   14. JRJoe Rogan22:16

       It's fucking ama- I forgot so much.

   15. MSMatt Serra22:18

       It's... No, it's great.

   16. JRJoe Rogan22:19

       I forgot so much.

   17. JRJoe Rogan22:19

       It's fucking awesome.

   18. MSMatt Serra22:20

       This, you don't even have to watch any of the Game of Thrones, 'cause this takes place 90 years-

   19. JRJoe Rogan22:25

       Yeah, it's before

   20. MSMatt Serra22:25

       ... before the first events of the Game of Thrones.

   21. JRJoe Rogan22:27

       So before... Oh.

   22. MSMatt Serra22:27

       Ser Duncan the Tall.

   23. JRJoe Rogan22:29

       Yep.

   24. MSMatt Serra22:29

       And it is so good.

   25. JRJoe Rogan22:31

       It is good.

   26. MSMatt Serra22:31

       So well done, and it's based on the novel. I'm a fucking nerd.

   27. JRJoe Rogan22:35

       [laughs]

   28. MSMatt Serra22:35

       I, I read the graphic novel of it by, uh, J- George R.R. Martin.

   29. JRJoe Rogan22:39

       Yeah, yeah.

   30. MSMatt Serra22:40

       And I read it back in the day, and it was, it's so great, and you know how they have, like, trial o- um, by combat?
8. 29:47 – 34:13

   GSP’s greatness and fixing MMA judging (10-8s, 10-7s, and better scoring models)

   1. DTDin Thomas29:47

      Speaking of Star Wars, I got a, a text out of nowhere from, uh, from George St-Pierre. He loves it as much as me.

   2. JRJoe Rogan29:53

      Oh, yeah.

   3. DTDin Thomas29:53

      It was just about the new Darth Maul animated series.

   4. JRJoe Rogan29:56

      My brother-

   5. MSMatt Serra29:57

      Oh, no, he ... Oh, I swear to God.

   6. JRJoe Rogan29:58

      Yo.

   7. MSMatt Serra29:59

      And then he gave me back a report. He told me. He's like, "Oh, it's so far so good. This and that."

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:02

      Dude.

   9. DTDin Thomas30:03

      I told you, my brother, my brother's like, "I know Matt's into Star Wars. Tell him watch the new Darth Maul."

   10. MSMatt Serra30:08

       It's good.

   11. DTDin Thomas30:08

       You know, Jamie said.

   12. MSMatt Serra30:09

       It's fun. I, I, I love George. He's, he loves this stuff.

   13. DTDin Thomas30:13

       He's the best.

   14. MSMatt Serra30:13

       Yeah.

   15. DTDin Thomas30:13

       I have the hardest time convincing people who he is. It's hilarious.

   16. MSMatt Serra30:17

       What do you mean?

   17. DTDin Thomas30:17

       Like, when people, when he comes to the mothership and people that don't know anything about MMA, they're like, "What does your friend do?" I go, "That is one of the greatest fighters that ever walked the face of the earth."

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       [laughs]

   19. MSMatt Serra30:26

       100%.

   20. DTDin Thomas30:27

       And they're like, "No, for real?" I go, "Yeah, 100% in everybody's list of one of the greatest of all time."

   21. MSMatt Serra30:32

       That's-

   22. DTDin Thomas30:32

       And he's like, "Hello, nice to meet you."

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       Yeah, right? [laughs]

   24. DTDin Thomas30:35

       He just seems so sweet and friendly.

   25. MSMatt Serra30:37

       I mean, that's the problem with MMA, is that, like, you have to convince people about how bad somebody was, and it wasn't that long ago.

   26. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       Man.

   27. MSMatt Serra30:43

       I mean, it wasn't that long ago that George St-Pierre was the fucking greatest of all time.

   28. JRJoe Rogan30:47

       No, wasn't that long ago.

   29. MSMatt Serra30:48

       And now, but the fans are so new that you c- they don't get it.

   30. JRJoe Rogan30:51

       They don't go back and watch it.
9. 34:13 – 38:59

   Aljamain Sterling discourse, fan narratives, and why PPV buying is harder than ‘being popular’

   1. MSMatt Serra34:13

      I think it's, my ADD's kicking in, but we're talking about the close calls, uh, close scoring. I thought Aljo, I thought he should've got that nod against fucking Volkanovski.

   2. SPSpeaker34:24

      Volkanovski?

   3. MSMatt Serra34:24

      Yeah.

   4. SPSpeaker34:24

      I thought so too.

   5. JRJoe Rogan34:25

      Yes. I, I, I-

   6. SPSpeaker34:25

      I didn't think there was a-

   7. MSMatt Serra34:26

      The guy got on the, uh, he got a-

   8. SPSpeaker34:27

      ... one question to me

   9. MSMatt Serra34:28

      ... one reversal at the end, like, a minute 30 left.

   10. SPSpeaker34:30

       Yeah.

   11. MSMatt Serra34:30

       And Aljo was winning that whole first round.

   12. SPSpeaker34:31

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan34:31

       Aljo is a nightmare for a grappling expert.

   14. MSMatt Serra34:34

       He could be undefeated at 145.

   15. SPSpeaker34:35

       He's a nightmare, because if your whole thing is grappling with people, and you gotta grapple with Aljo, you got problems.

   16. JRJoe Rogan34:40

       Yeah.

   17. MSMatt Serra34:41

       Yeah.

   18. SPSpeaker34:41

       That dude gets your back, he's got, he's got a death grip.

   19. JRJoe Rogan34:44

       I mean, him and Yan, 10, 10-8 round. Like, he was just on his back for the entire fucking round.

   20. SPSpeaker34:47

       Dominated him in that second fight.

   21. JRJoe Rogan34:49

       And they don't, and no, uh, how is that not a 10-8 round?

   22. MSMatt Serra34:52

       He's fighting Youssef, uh, Zalal soon. I said it wrong.

   23. JRJoe Rogan34:55

       Yeah, yeah, Youssef Zalal.

   24. MSMatt Serra34:57

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan34:57

       And that's on, on the 25th of April.

   26. MSMatt Serra34:58

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan34:58

       But I mean, I, but I think, you know, if it hits the ground, I think there's levels to this.

   28. MSMatt Serra35:03

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan35:03

       Does, did Aljo over Yan in the second fight, was that, like, the best anybody's ever done with Yan?

   30. MSMatt Serra35:08

       Oh, he, he destroyed him.
10. 38:59 – 46:51

    Netflix fight era speculation: Gina vs. Ronda, Diaz vs. Perry, and ‘is this sustainable?’

    1. DTDin Thomas38:59

       What do you think, guys?

    2. DTDin Thomas39:01

       Gina verse Ronda.

    3. DTDin Thomas39:04

       I, I think f- round one submission, Ronda.

    4. DTDin Thomas39:06

       Yeah.

    5. DTDin Thomas39:07

       Unless she wants to try to just stand up with her, which I doubt. I hope not.

    6. DTDin Thomas39:12

       I don't know what Gina's been doing. You know, I don't know how long she went without MMA training at all.

    7. DTDin Thomas39:19

       She-

    8. DTDin Thomas39:19

       You know, I don't-

    9. DTDin Thomas39:20

       She was recently a little heavy.

    10. DTDin Thomas39:21

        Man.

    11. DTDin Thomas39:21

        I would say that.

    12. DTDin Thomas39:22

        She looks great now.

    13. DTDin Thomas39:23

        I was chubby at once, too. Does she look great now?

    14. JRJoe Rogan39:24

        She looks great.

    15. DTDin Thomas39:24

        She looks... Obv- look, she got in great shape.

    16. JRJoe Rogan39:26

        She got in great shape.

    17. DTDin Thomas39:27

        But she's still, like, 43 years old.

    18. JRJoe Rogan39:28

        Yes.

    19. DTDin Thomas39:29

        Come on.

    20. JRJoe Rogan39:29

        No, but the, the question is, like, what was she doing in those... Was she still training some? That would be my real question. Because if you just put it all down and you walk away for 17 years, I gotta go. [inhales]

    21. DTDin Thomas39:41

        I mean, but with the-

    22. JRJoe Rogan39:42

        You know?

    23. DTDin Thomas39:42

        ... with the weight loss, uh, with the weight gain that she had, there was no way she was training or doing anything.

    24. DTDin Thomas39:47

        That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

    25. DTDin Thomas39:48

        You know? Uh, like, she's back in shape, and she obviously w- is busting her ass to do that. But-

    26. DTDin Thomas39:53

        And-

    27. DTDin Thomas39:53

        ... how long, like you're saying, was she down?

    28. DTDin Thomas39:56

        Yeah.

    29. JRJoe Rogan39:56

        And she has to develop a, a, a, a grappling defense to one of the best female grapplers ever.

    30. DTDin Thomas40:02

        No, Ronda's, like, Ronda-
11. 46:51 – 51:25

    Knockouts, medical protocols, and long-term health: when ‘tough’ becomes dangerous

    1. JRJoe Rogan46:51

       Yeah. That Macy Barber one the other day was, whoa.

    2. DTDin Thomas46:55

       Ooh. Dude, that was just-

    3. JRJoe Rogan46:56

       One of the greatest finishes in women's MMA history.

    4. DTDin Thomas46:58

       Oh, no doubt. I wanted to reach out to Macy 'cause I felt so bad.

    5. JRJoe Rogan47:02

       I wanted to reach out to the doctor and say, "What the fuck are you thinking?"

    6. DTDin Thomas47:04

       [laughing]

    7. JRJoe Rogan47:04

       He's just over like... [laughing]

    8. DTDin Thomas47:06

       Like, put-

    9. SPSpeaker47:06

       Poking him with a fucking finger. [laughing]

    10. DTDin Thomas47:08

        Yeah.

    11. JRJoe Rogan47:08

        So crazy.

    12. DTDin Thomas47:09

        Yeah. [laughing] He's like, I'm like, "Get some smell." I'm like, "Somebody, the cameraman, please get off this, or somebody talk to the doctor. 'Cause I don't know what the fuck..." He was just over like, "Man, this is fucked up." [laughing]

    13. JRJoe Rogan47:21

        [laughing] I don't think he knew exactly what was going on. He probably has no experience in combat sports, right?

    14. DTDin Thomas47:26

        Yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan47:26

        He didn't realize that she got knocked out, and while she was out cold, she got strangled.

    16. DTDin Thomas47:31

        Oh, dude.

    17. SPSpeaker47:31

        She transitioned so fast.

    18. JRJoe Rogan47:33

        Like, took a, she's out there.

    19. DTDin Thomas47:34

        Oof. Jesus.

    20. JRJoe Rogan47:34

        She's out cold already.

    21. DTDin Thomas47:36

        Damn.

    22. JRJoe Rogan47:36

        And then she gets strangled. Like, that's never happened before.

    23. SPSpeaker47:39

        What's crazy is she was-

    24. DTDin Thomas47:40

        Look at the way he catches her here

    25. SPSpeaker47:41

        ... like, kinda still reacting, and then when they put her on her back, she just, it was, I don't know what was going on.

    26. JRJoe Rogan47:45

        Well, no, she went limp as she was trying to sit up. She went limp, you see right there. Like, she was trying to get up, and then as the guy has his arm around her, she goes limp.

    27. DTDin Thomas47:56

        Dude. See, there's like, there's, uh, C-Level Kane, and then there's Southpaw Alexa. When she fights Southpaw, man, she is dangerous.

    28. JRJoe Rogan48:03

        Then this confused doctor.

    29. DTDin Thomas48:05

        She's sh-

    30. JRJoe Rogan48:05

        Look at him.
12. 51:25 – 56:49

    ONE Championship striking and ‘stand-ups’: why rules shape what fans see

    1. JRJoe Rogan51:25

       One has some wild striking fights, man.

    2. MSMatt Serra51:28

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan51:28

       Some of the absolute best stand-up fights in the world are happening on One. I watch it all the time.

    4. MSMatt Serra51:33

       I never know when that shit's on, bro.

    5. JRJoe Rogan51:35

       Yeah, when is that on?

    6. MSMatt Serra51:35

       Where do you watch that at?

    7. JRJoe Rogan51:36

       There's this fucking cat out of Dagestan. Do you guys know who I'm talking about? Asadulla Imangazaliev.

    8. MSMatt Serra51:42

       No.

    9. SPSpeaker51:42

       No.

    10. JRJoe Rogan51:42

        Bro, this dude is, uh, I think he's 135 pounds. I think that's what he fights at, and he's, like, six foot one.

    11. MSMatt Serra51:50

        [laughs]

    12. JRJoe Rogan51:50

        And just a laser beam striker. Uh, just fucks people up. Like, literally might be the best striker in the world.

    13. MSMatt Serra51:57

        Is it just kickboxing?

    14. JRJoe Rogan51:58

        Yeah, and he's getting in there with Muay Thai. He's getting in there with world Muay Thai champions and KO'ing them. Like, three-time world Lumpini Muay Thai champions.

    15. MSMatt Serra52:09

        Damn.

    16. JRJoe Rogan52:09

        Lumpini Stadium guys. This guy is a fucking-

    17. MSMatt Serra52:12

        Ooh, look at that body shot

    18. JRJoe Rogan52:12

        ... straight killer, dude, and he's from Dagestan, and he can wrestle.

    19. MSMatt Serra52:16

        Damn.

    20. SPSpeaker52:16

        Oh, man.

    21. JRJoe Rogan52:16

        You gotta, see if you can find, like, a highlight reel of his KOs, 'cause this is just, like, get on YouTube.

    22. MSMatt Serra52:22

        The body shot was nasty.

    23. JRJoe Rogan52:23

        This, I watch this cat every time he fights. I just can't, he's so fucking accurate, and he's so slick.

    24. MSMatt Serra52:30

        How old is he?

    25. JRJoe Rogan52:31

        He's 22.

    26. MSMatt Serra52:32

        Oh, damn.

    27. SPSpeaker52:33

        Damn.

    28. JRJoe Rogan52:33

        Yeah, man, I'm telling you, this 22-year-old cat from Dagestan might be the best striker on Earth right now. This dude is-

    29. MSMatt Serra52:41

        Wow

    30. JRJoe Rogan52:41

        ... so impressive, and I'm telling you-
13. 56:49 – 1:42:02

    Old-school MMA legends and the jiu-jitsu family tree: Kerr, Bustamante, Renzo, Danaher

    1. MSMatt Serra56:49

       Didn't you see The Smashing Machine?

    2. JRJoe Rogan56:51

       Yeah, bro.

    3. MSMatt Serra56:52

       Did you like The Smashing Machine?

    4. JRJoe Rogan56:53

       I did. I did.

    5. MSMatt Serra56:54

       It was good.

    6. JRJoe Rogan56:54

       I did.

    7. MSMatt Serra56:55

       I enjoyed it, too.

    8. JRJoe Rogan56:55

       I thought The Rock was amazing. I thought, like, his acting, like, like, you didn't think it was The Rock, you know?

    9. MSMatt Serra57:01

       I haven't seen it yet.

    10. SPSpeaker57:02

        Me neither.

    11. JRJoe Rogan57:02

        You thought it was Mark Kerr.

    12. MSMatt Serra57:03

        Really?

    13. JRJoe Rogan57:03

        Like, he even got a forehead thing.

    14. MSMatt Serra57:04

        Yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan57:05

        Like, he got, like, rubber put on his forehead or whatever the fuck it is.

    16. MSMatt Serra57:07

        Give you a little like...

    17. SPSpeaker57:08

        Yeah.

    18. JRJoe Rogan57:08

        Yeah, make him more Neanderthal.

    19. MSMatt Serra57:09

        Yeah. [laughs]

    20. SPSpeaker57:10

        A little Cro-Magnon.

    21. MSMatt Serra57:12

        Give him a little Frankenstein forehead. It's almost scene by scene, it was almost like the same, pretty much the same exact thing as the documentary.

    22. JRJoe Rogan57:19

        It was really good.

    23. MSMatt Serra57:20

        The documentary, it's, it, think, it's like the same shots, the same story.

    24. JRJoe Rogan57:24

        Mm-hmm.

    25. MSMatt Serra57:24

        So if you've seen the documentary, which was great.

    26. SPSpeaker57:27

        Yeah, same here.

    27. JRJoe Rogan57:27

        Mark was a great guest. I had him in the podcast. He was fun.

    28. MSMatt Serra57:31

        Yeah.

    29. JRJoe Rogan57:31

        It was a real- he was a really cool guest, you know?

    30. MSMatt Serra57:33

        No kidding.
14. 1:42:02 – 2:01:53

    Pop culture chaos, UFOs, VR addiction, and the White House fight-card reality check

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:42:02

       premise. Where are these Artemis people at now? Are they, are they passing the moon yet?

    2. SPSpeaker1:42:07

       They already did. That was all last-

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:42:08

       They, they passed it?

    4. SPSpeaker1:42:09

       Yeah, that was all streamed on Monday.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:42:10

       What happened? So they- Yeah ... when did they, did they land yet? Are they back yet? Where are they?

    6. SPSpeaker1:42:14

       Uh, they should be probably back in the next day or two.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:42:16

       Well, who's going where? They went around the moon. They went all the way around the moon? All the way around the moon. And didn't land? No. Their probe. No, they just went around it.

    8. SPSpeaker1:42:22

       They just went around and s- saw the dark side of the moon.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:42:24

       Yeah. Yeah, they took photos of the dark side of the moon. Oh, really? Yeah. But the-

    10. SPSpeaker1:42:28

        They did crash on, on Friday. Uh, splash Friday.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:42:31

        Splash on Friday.

    12. SPSpeaker1:42:31

        [laughs]

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:42:31

        I was getting ready to say, what? They crashed?

    14. SPSpeaker1:42:33

        Yeah, no, no, yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:42:33

        So they land tomorrow. Wow. So they, um, so the, the dark side of the moon is only dark when the moon's not. It's not dark... Like, the sun still hits it the same amount the sun hits the light side of the moon.

    16. SPSpeaker1:42:46

        Is that true?

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:42:47

        It's just... Yeah, it's the way the... I used to think... I'm, I'm a retard. I used to think that the m- the reason why we only see one side of the moon is because the moon doesn't spin.

    18. SPSpeaker1:42:56

        That's what I thought.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:42:56

        No, no, no. The moon not only spins around us, but it rotates. But when we see it, it, the only time we see the moon during a full moon or a quarter moon or whatever it is, is when the sun is hitting the side that's always facing us. Right.

    20. SPSpeaker1:43:10

        Yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:43:10

        So when, when it goes the other way-

    22. SPSpeaker1:43:12

        Gotcha

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:43:13

        ... that, there's a different side that's facing us, but we don't ever get to see it because it's dark. Right. That's what it is. So we-

    24. SPSpeaker1:43:18

        Split it

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:43:18

        ... but they, so they took pictures of the other side. Exactly. Yeah. Mm. And there's aliens everywhere. I was about to say, yeah, I was gonna say, what's on the, what's on the other side? There's pyramids and fucking things. Yeah, yeah. Civilization on the other side? What's on the other side? [laughs] And in that, in that movie, he finds an alien, by the way. Oh, he does? This is not really a spoiler. It's in the- Oh ... in the trailers. I had that guy Bob Lazar on again recently. Shh. Who's that? You wanna see a great documentary? The, it's fun. Uh, the first, I would say Jeremy Corbell's documentary, which is, uh, Area 51: Bob Lazar and Flying Saucers. Is that what it's called?Bob Lazar, Area 51, and flying saucers. So this guy was a back engi- he was an engineer, and he was hired to, uh, work on these space crafts that he didn't know what the fuck they were. And they told him, like, "Try to figure out this propulsion system." They brought him into this hangar, and this is in, like, 1988, and it's a flying saucer that looks exactly like that thing on the desk.

    26. DTDin Thomas1:44:11

        Jesus.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:44:11

        And it has an American flag sticker on it. And so he's like, "Oh, it must be ours." Like, and then he gets in it and he's like, "What the fuck is this?"

    28. DTDin Thomas1:44:18

        [laughs]

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:44:18

        It's made for people that are three feet tall. There's no controls, no buttons, nothing that-

    30. DTDin Thomas1:44:23

        Why you looking at me, motherfucker?

Episode duration: 3:02:53