JRE MMA Show #21 with Brendan Schaub

1. 0:01 – 1:26

   Fight-week hype and the science of weight cutting (Embedded, Lockhart, 171 lbs)

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      (sniffs) Four, three, two, one. And we're live! This is a bummer of a fight week, but also an awesome fight week.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub0:12

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      Like, I'm very excited. Did you see the- the latest Countdown? What is it, uh, All Access? What do they call it? No.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub0:17

      Embedded?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Embedded, yeah. I'm always trying to come up with the name of those things.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub0:21

      There's always some- they're all the same, but-

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      Yeah.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub0:22

      ... All Access, Embedded, 24/7.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      Embedded is very good. I should- I should remember the name. It's very good.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub0:28

       They're all, yeah, they're all good.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       And this- this new one is really good 'cause it's got Max Holloway running on a treadmill two treadmills over from Nurmagomedov, who's also running on a treadmill. And they're fucking very cool to each other.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub0:39

       They're cool.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       It's very interesting.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub0:40

       Khabib thanked him for taking the fight-

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       Yeah.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub0:42

       ... which he should-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       Yeah.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub0:43

       ... which he should. Thanks for taking the fight. And then, they have the same, uh, weight coach.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Yeah.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub0:47

       Like cutting, yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       That's crazy. Lockhart, right?

   22. BSBrendan Schaub0:49

       It- it's, yeah, it's Lockhart.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       Yeah, it's Lockhart.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub0:51

       Yeah, that's right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       Lockhart is go- did- is Lockhart working with Nurmagomedov as well?

   26. BSBrendan Schaub0:54

       Yes, both of them.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       So, Lockhart was g- like, Lockhart is legit. Like, he goes over calculations of like, how much you weigh, how much water you're gonna take, and he's weighing things out. It took him an hour and a half to do the calculations.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub1:07

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       It wasn't like, "Hey, we're gonna wing this." It's like, "No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're gonna do this weight cut correctly," and he's got it down to the day. You know, like, it's six days to lose, I think he was 171.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub1:20

       Is that- is that- is that- I was wondering what did- what did he start at? Is it 171?
2. 1:26 – 10:18

   Max Holloway taking Khabib on six days’ notice: respect, risks, and matchup problems

   1. BSBrendan Schaub1:26

      What's crazy is, when Max was on my show, I was talking to him a little bit off air, and this is on record. I'm not spilling anything that he didn't say. But he just goes, "You know, I've, with the injury-"

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:37

      There we go, right there.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub1:37

      Jesus Christ.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:38

      Embedded. Embedded, I think, is better than that UFC, uh, not UFC, the HBO ones. I think it's better than all of them.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub1:44

      The 24/7?

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:45

      Yeah.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub1:45

      How dare you.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:46

      I- I think it's better than all of them.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub1:46

      The 24/7, when there's a big fight?

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:48

       Yeah.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub1:48

       I think- I think, because this is RAW.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:50

       You know why? Because this is RAW. This-

   13. BSBrendan Schaub1:50

       I think, well, I think in general, they're better-

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:52

       Yeah.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub1:52

       ... 'cause they do more of it.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:53

       Yup.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub1:54

       But a 24/7?

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:55

       They're very good.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub1:56

       Like, they're- they're fucking good.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:56

       They're very good. But with-

   21. BSBrendan Schaub1:57

       With Liev Schreiber?

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:58

       Oh, it's, I love that guy.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub1:59

       Bro, watch your words, son.

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:00

       I love that guy. I love that guy.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub2:01

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:01

       But I like these better, because these are-

   27. BSBrendan Schaub2:02

       Remember when they had the "alley cat" Liev Schreiber?

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:04

       Yeah.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub2:05

       He's like, (imitates Liev Schreiber) "Tonight, here we go."

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:07

       (laughs)
3. 10:18 – 14:33

   How far does Khabib’s dominance go? Grappling myths, welterweight dreams, and the Woodley problem

   1. BSBrendan Schaub10:18

      I wanna see him against Woodley at 70.

   2. JRJoe Rogan10:20

      Yeah.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub10:20

      I think 70's his natural weight class.

   4. JRJoe Rogan10:23

      Yeah. I think he'd probably be a lot healthier. Imagine that.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub10:25

      Imagine Woodley-

   6. JRJoe Rogan10:26

      Imagine being stronger and healthier.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub10:27

      ... and him f- Woodley and Khabib?

   8. JRJoe Rogan10:29

      Jesus.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub10:29

      What?

   10. JRJoe Rogan10:29

       But Woodley's a different thing, man. You, you miss, you, you fuck up and you, you leave yourself in a position to get hit with one of those nuclear bombs.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub10:37

       Oh, he'll knock you out.

   12. JRJoe Rogan10:37

       Woodley could put people to sleep. And he can grapple his ass off.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub10:40

       Like, he can grapple his ass off.

   14. JRJoe Rogan10:40

       Grapple his ass off, hard to take down, and puts people to sleep with one shot. I don't think Woodley gets his due, and I think the best evidence is the, the two fights that people point to where they sa- say that, like, Woodley should have done better. Those are the Thompson fights. He, he-

   15. BSBrendan Schaub10:55

       And the Maya fight.

   16. JRJoe Rogan10:56

       The Maya fight, but Maya never got hurt. Like, he hur- he hit Maya a bunch of times, but it was uneventful 'cause he was hurt... Woodley was hurt early in the first round with his shoulder. He fucked his shoulder up, like, when he first-

   17. BSBrendan Schaub11:07

       But also, if he fought Maya, though, he should fight Maya if you don't wanna go to the ground.

   18. JRJoe Rogan11:09

       100%, but my point is, in those two fights with Thompson, Woodley was the one who hurt Thompson.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub11:14

       C- he-

   20. JRJoe Rogan11:15

       He hurt him bad.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub11:15

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan11:15

       Bad in both fights, almost stopped him in both fights.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub11:19

       Yeah, I don't wanna see the men fight again, but I hear you. Great fight.

   24. JRJoe Rogan11:21

       Yeah.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub11:21

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan11:21

       Yeah, I, I-

   27. BSBrendan Schaub11:22

       I, I'll pa- hard pass for that.

   28. JRJoe Rogan11:23

       If it was a crazy UFC 200 card and that was on it, I wouldn't be mad.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub11:28

       Me neither.

   30. JRJoe Rogan11:28

       I mean, it was one of... (laughs)
4. 14:33 – 19:15

   Who can actually threaten Khabib? Ortega, Tony, and the ‘signature win’ debate

   1. BSBrendan Schaub14:33

      Back to Khabib. You know who I think... And I'm not just saying this 'cause he's my boy, I've known him forever. But you know who I think could be his Achilles heel, who matches up better with him than anyone?

   2. JRJoe Rogan14:41

      Who?

   3. BSBrendan Schaub14:42

      Everyone's overlooking. Brian Ortega.

   4. JRJoe Rogan14:44

      Ooh, that's a good point.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub14:45

      Brian Ortega's a big dude, at 55, easy weight cut for him.

   6. JRJoe Rogan14:49

      And can grapple his ass off.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub14:50

      But on the ground, on the ground, he's the most dangerous guy in the world right now.

   8. JRJoe Rogan14:53

      Yeah, I think so too. I think the way he locks up submissions is very different. It's like if everybody else is hitting it at a seven or an eight, Ortega's hitting it at a 10, where you're watching, you go, "Oh, that's different."

   9. BSBrendan Schaub15:04

      And you haven't seen it.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:05

       Yeah.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub15:05

       So for Khabib who... He's... How long... He's grappled fricking grizzly bears since he was four.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:09

       Yeah.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub15:10

       He... And he's seen Sambo.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:11

       Yeah.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub15:11

       He's seen bro- black belt jujitsu. He's seen all this stuff, you're not gonna catch him.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:14

       Yeah.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub15:15

       With Ortega it's a little different and he actually encourages you to go to the ground.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:18

       Yeah.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub15:18

       And he's, he's dangerous on his feet, but on the ground is where he thrives.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:21

       Isn't it funny how that thing about going to the ground... What is it? Brian says Ortega wrote, "For the record, Dana called me yesterday to see if I'd step in against Khabib since Max hadn't responded yet. I said yes." Eventually Max replied and Gave- Dana gave him the fight. "If all goes according to plan, I'll get my turn at both of them." Damn.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub15:36

       Ooh. Phenomenal fight with Ortega.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       Brian Ortega.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub15:39

       Br- just stylistically I went, "Mm." And if I'm Khabib, Khabib goes, "Why would I fight Ortega? He's a phenomenal fighter, but he doesn't have a belt, doesn't have a big name."

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       Right. Right.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub15:45

       Why would... And it's the most dangerous fight for him, I think.

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:47

       And it's al- it's also, I mean, Ortega became a much bigger star with the Frankie Edgar knockout. Much bigger star. But, but...

   27. BSBrendan Schaub15:55

       He has a ways to go.

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       Yeah. Max Holloway is one of the best-

   29. BSBrendan Schaub15:58

       Legit.

   30. JRJoe Rogan15:58

       ... fighters on the planet. That's a really interesting fight. Tor- Ortega's got... There's something about his jujitsu, man. It's like it's on... It's just ramped up and sharpened down to, like, such a, just a razor's edge, man. When he grabs ahold of stuff, you like, you have very little room to get out. You know?
5. 19:15 – 22:52

   Beyond the main event: Till vs Wonderboy, Mighty Mouse’s dilemma, and injury realities

   1. BSBrendan Schaub19:15

      How about Wonderboy? I, I saw a quote-

   2. JRJoe Rogan19:17

      Yeah.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub19:17

      ... coming in here where he goes, "I'm not-"

   4. JRJoe Rogan19:19

      Who's Darren Till?

   5. BSBrendan Schaub19:19

      "... that impressed with Darren Till. Who is he?" I'm like, "Did you learn nothing from the Cowboy fight?" Even I learned from that. I talked shit... I was like, "Man, why would Cowboy take this?" I don't really know who Darren Till is, and then my inbox just flooded with shit.

   6. JRJoe Rogan19:31

      Yeah.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub19:31

      And even Darren Till went off on me, and I looked at him. I went like, "Oh, my God, this guy's a monster."

   8. JRJoe Rogan19:35

      He's an animal. Doesn't he have a gorilla tattoo or something?

   9. BSBrendan Schaub19:39

      Does he?

   10. JRJoe Rogan19:39

       He's got gorillas all over his... Like, uses it in his screen name in Twitter.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub19:43

       Well, he's a gorilla.

   12. JRJoe Rogan19:45

       (laughs) He's a gorilla.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub19:45

       He's a Liverpool go- gorilla.

   14. JRJoe Rogan19:46

       (laughs) He's a bad motherfucker.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub19:47

       And for Wonderboy, who's rehabbing his thumbs, and it's just like, "All right."

   16. JRJoe Rogan19:51

       Mm-hmm.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub19:51

       "If you want this..."

   18. JRJoe Rogan19:52

       Well-

   19. BSBrendan Schaub19:52

       And then what happens if Wonder... Let's say Wonderboy were, were to win, which I don't think he is, unfortunately. Let's say-

   20. JRJoe Rogan19:57

       Really?

   21. BSBrendan Schaub19:57

       I don't.

   22. JRJoe Rogan19:58

       You think-

   23. BSBrendan Schaub19:58

       I'm on the Till team.

   24. JRJoe Rogan19:59

       ... you think Till's gonna get him?

   25. BSBrendan Schaub19:59

       I just... Yeah, I think there's this kinda-

   26. JRJoe Rogan20:01

       Are you a Darren Till dick ride?

   27. BSBrendan Schaub20:02

       A little bit.

   28. JRJoe Rogan20:03

       Little bit?

   29. BSBrendan Schaub20:03

       Right now, I'm, I'm hard dick riding on Khabib-

   30. JRJoe Rogan20:07

       (laughs)
6. 22:52 – 31:08

   UFC chaos economics: interim belts, rankings problems, stripping titles, and the Tony injury week

   1. BSBrendan Schaub22:52

      But now, now he's forced to fight. And I, I see what the UFC is doing where they do an interim belt between Colby and dos Anjos where the... You know, it's an interim belt, so now, Woodley, you literally have to fight the winner of this.

   2. JRJoe Rogan23:05

      Yeah.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub23:05

      You have to fight him.

   4. JRJoe Rogan23:06

      It's a very sneaky move.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub23:06

      They have a belt. What are you gonna do? You want a super fight? Nope, this guy has a belt. I get both sides here.

   6. JRJoe Rogan23:12

      Not only that, (coughs) if it's dos Anjos, if Dos- dos Anjos beats Colby, dos Anjos, lightweight champion, now welterweight champion. That's a-

   7. BSBrendan Schaub23:18

      It's a great fight.

   8. JRJoe Rogan23:19

      ... big deal.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub23:19

      It's a great-

   10. JRJoe Rogan23:20

       Yeah.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub23:20

       ... great fight.

   12. JRJoe Rogan23:20

       You could have dos Anjos sitting there with two belts on his shoulders. I mean...

   13. BSBrendan Schaub23:24

       And then what do you do with Darren Till? Let's say he, for whatever reason, walks through Wonderboy, which is, you know-... tough to do. But say he walks through him, which Woodley, you know, struggled a little bit, walks through him and Wonderboy's the number one guy. Now Darren Till jumps up to number one. Or is it Dos Anjos-

   14. JRJoe Rogan23:39

       Does that work that way? Because the, the ratings are fucking screwy, man.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub23:42

       Oh, they're, they're-

   16. JRJoe Rogan23:43

       Some- sometimes I see a guy who beat a guy and then the- that guy who he beat is still ranked ahead of him.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub23:48

       They're a nightmare. All- all they are- all the ratings do now, it almost hurts if you're a guy like Sean Shelby or Dana trying to make these match-ups. 'Cause a guy who's at fourth, they go, "Hey, we want you to fight seven." He's like, "No, he's seven, I have nothing to gain from that." Where before it was like, "Hey, we want you to fight this guy. He's a name, he's on a seven-fight win streak."

   18. JRJoe Rogan24:05

       Right.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub24:05

       We don't know what ranking he is, but we know he's damn good.

   20. JRJoe Rogan24:08

       Right.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub24:08

       So guys were more willing to take it. Now they, "Nope, he's seven?" (wipes hand of face)

   22. JRJoe Rogan24:11

       I- I want number one.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub24:12

       Exactly.

   24. JRJoe Rogan24:13

       Right.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub24:13

       I need three, four, f- you know?

   26. JRJoe Rogan24:15

       Yeah, that's weird.

   27. BSBrendan Schaub24:16

       It hurts us.

   28. JRJoe Rogan24:17

       Well, it's also weird, like, the UFC could just d- they just decide who's fighting. I mean, it's, the whole thing, the business is so interesting. Because it's like they decide who's fighting, they decide who's champion, they decide, "Tony, you're not champion anymore, we're gonna strip you."

   29. BSBrendan Schaub24:31

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan24:31

       It's like, but, I fell.
7. 31:08 – 34:54

   PEDs and performance talk: Canelo/Triple G, Manny’s rise, and modern strength & conditioning

   1. BSBrendan Schaub31:08

      And that, but it happens in sports. This, uh, this is what I think makes fighting so great, so great. Max has an opportunity that no one else in the world in sports can have.

   2. JRJoe Rogan31:17

      Yeah.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub31:17

      And then, you know, then look at Canelo-Triple G. It's it, in, in combat sports, this is what we deal with.

   4. JRJoe Rogan31:22

      Yeah.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub31:22

      Canelo, that's the biggest fight of the year, biggest fight everyone wants to see, the rematch of the year, and then tainted meat.

   6. JRJoe Rogan31:29

      Do you buy the tainted meat?

   7. BSBrendan Schaub31:30

      Absolutely not, sir. I've had many tacos in Mexico and I am not swole.

   8. JRJoe Rogan31:34

      Yeah, but you're not getting tested for trace amounts of clembuterol.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub31:38

      You don't know.

   10. JRJoe Rogan31:40

       (laughs)

   11. BSBrendan Schaub31:41

       (laughs) Maybe I have the Golden Snitch come to my house just for the fucks of it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan31:44

       Just to dribble-

   13. BSBrendan Schaub31:45

       Maybe I'm still in the testing protocol.

   14. JRJoe Rogan31:46

       Hmm. Interesting.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub31:47

       No, I, yeah, maybe, I don't know, but I would see some sort of change. But Tr- even Triple G's camp goes, "Uh, last fight he was on it. What else is new?"

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:56

       Now, why did Triple... Why do you think they said that?

   17. BSBrendan Schaub31:58

       He... I don't know. I'm sure, listen, I'm sure Gennady's been in there with, what, over 4, 500 people now? 400 people?

   18. JRJoe Rogan32:04

       Mm-hmm.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub32:04

       And he just said in his experience he can tell who's on PEDs and who's not, and he thought Canelo was.

   20. JRJoe Rogan32:12

       (inhales) Do you buy that? Okay, like, what if you're fighting-

   21. BSBrendan Schaub32:15

       Uh, I do, I do, 'cause out of a fighter, as a fighter, there's guys I've fought who I assumed were.

   22. JRJoe Rogan32:18

       Okay, but what about Woodley? A guy like Woodley who has cr- tremendous genetics.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub32:22

       He's always been like that though.

   24. JRJoe Rogan32:23

       Right, always been like that, but so has Canelo, no?

   25. BSBrendan Schaub32:25

       Mm. You, you look at it, he's, he's gotten pretty swole. Now, he's getting older though, so it could be that too. He's just, as you get older, you put on more size.

   26. JRJoe Rogan32:33

       Well, the big one was Manny. Manny was the one that everybody was always accusing. And Manny was the first... I mean, Manny went up eight weight classes (laughs) -

   27. BSBrendan Schaub32:40

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan32:41

       ... and kept his knockout power.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub32:42

       He was fighting as a little boy and then just was like (snores)

   30. JRJoe Rogan32:44

       Crazy. I mean, and kept the knockout power.
8. 34:54 – 42:51

   Foot strength, barefoot training, and the home-gym era (Peloton, VersaClimber, rowing)

   1. BSBrendan Schaub34:54

      You know who's, who's been on that ball since, God, since I've known him, is Loren Landow-

   2. JRJoe Rogan34:57

      Yeah.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub34:57

      ... who I worked with in Denver now.

   4. JRJoe Rogan34:58

      Right.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub34:59

      He just got the gig as the num... He's the head conditioning coach of the Denver Broncos.

   6. JRJoe Rogan35:03

      Whoa.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub35:04

      But he was making us work out barefoot forever.

   8. JRJoe Rogan35:06

      Really?

   9. BSBrendan Schaub35:06

      Even as football players.

   10. JRJoe Rogan35:08

       Steve Maxwell was always on that too.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub35:09

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan35:10

       All his kettlebell workouts and everything.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub35:11

       There's some of those guys who it's like, "Oh, this is all new." And then you talk to, like, a Loren or that Maxwell guy, they're like, "Uh, we've been doing this for like 20 years, so-"

   14. JRJoe Rogan35:18

       Yeah.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub35:18

       "... you guys are just now finding out about it."

   16. JRJoe Rogan35:20

       Well, so many people. You know, you, you see so many people working out with, like, high, thick-ass running shoes that are all spongy on the bottom.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub35:27

       Yeah, I'd be one of them.

   18. JRJoe Rogan35:28

       (clears throat) Yeah, a lot of people do.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub35:30

       Yeah, I have knee pads.

   20. JRJoe Rogan35:30

       But, but you're not training for a fight right now. Do you know what I mean?

   21. BSBrendan Schaub35:32

       No. No.

   22. JRJoe Rogan35:33

       But if you were, you would try to optimize everything, wouldn't you?

   23. BSBrendan Schaub35:35

       Yeah, I, I, I used to wear those five, uh, finger-

   24. JRJoe Rogan35:38

       Mm-hmm.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub35:38

       I'd wear those to run, I'd wear those on the track, I'd wear those during, uh, most of my stuff.

   26. JRJoe Rogan35:43

       So now you just wear regular running shoes for comfort?

   27. BSBrendan Schaub35:46

       Regular running shoes and then w... I had a knee problem 'cause I was putting so many miles on it, now I'm on a bike. I got, I got one of those Pelotons.... so-

   28. JRJoe Rogan35:52

       Yeah, those are dope.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub35:53

       ... it's, it's been good.

   30. JRJoe Rogan35:54

       Those, uh, it's good because it's, you could play along and go along with a class and-
9. 42:51 – 53:39

   Injuries and recovery hacks: golfer’s elbow, PRP/stem cells, and the TheraBand ‘twist’ fix

   1. JRJoe Rogan42:51

      Hmm. That's how I got fat.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub42:53

      Well, you can s- you can still get a... You're crazy. You're crazy. Do I... For me to stick on a diet, s- I have to, I have to, uh, have a meal specialist, like, delivering my meals.

   3. JRJoe Rogan43:03

      Yeah.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub43:03

      I'm that guy right now.

   5. JRJoe Rogan43:04

      I'm usually really good at it. But, but one thing this has done is ramped up my hill running. So I've been doing more hill running.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub43:11

      Oh, yeah, that's what...

   7. JRJoe Rogan43:11

      Are you the type of dude though-

   8. BSBrendan Schaub43:12

      Getting my butt doggone.

   9. JRJoe Rogan43:12

      Well, I would see late night, you're always posting... Yeah, you got that fat ass. I always see when... PH fat. I see when, uh, at night when you come home from the comedy store, you're always posting, like, protein and veggies.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub43:22

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan43:22

       Are you really eating that? Or are you, like... There's that and then you have McDonald's on the side?

   12. BSBrendan Schaub43:25

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan43:26

       (laughs) No, no, I'm not doing McDonald's.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub43:26

       You know what I'm saying?

   15. JRJoe Rogan43:28

       If I cheat, it's pasta.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub43:29

       Dude, me- that was last night.

   17. JRJoe Rogan43:30

       Or, or, I ate a whole pizza the other day.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub43:32

       Fucking giving up. Where, where from?

   19. JRJoe Rogan43:34

       (laughs) It was at a restaurant.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub43:35

       (sighs) Fucking right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan43:36

       I went with, uh, with the missus, and, uh, we ordered some other stuff and I said, "Let's just get a pizza too."

   22. BSBrendan Schaub43:40

       Right, that's how it starts.

   23. JRJoe Rogan43:41

       And then she had one, she's like, "I'm not really into this." I'm like, "Good."

   24. BSBrendan Schaub43:43

       (growls) Bro, that's me, man.

   25. JRJoe Rogan43:45

       (laughs) I, I wolfed the whole pizza down.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub43:47

       I know.

   27. JRJoe Rogan43:47

       Ate that whole fucking pizza.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub43:47

       And then I'm so disappointed in myself. I, I had these, I had these meals, man. I've, I've been strict on it. When I'm on the road it's fucking tough. Or when I... If I'm, like, getting any sleep, my body craves sugar and carbs.

   29. JRJoe Rogan43:57

       Yep. Yep. Always.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub43:59

       But then I'm screwed.
10. 53:39 – 59:18

    Cheat meals, diet discipline, and body-image comedy (pizza, pasta, jeans, ‘badonkadonk’)

    1. BSBrendan Schaub53:39

       Yeah, thanks, bud.

    2. JRJoe Rogan53:40

       I think it's, it's a fun show too.

    3. BSBrendan Schaub53:41

       Yeah.

    4. JRJoe Rogan53:41

       What I like about it is you're being you on that show.

    5. BSBrendan Schaub53:44

       Yes.

    6. JRJoe Rogan53:44

       Like you, like I see you on that show, I'm like, "Oh, they let him be himself." Like you say a bunch of silly shit-

    7. BSBrendan Schaub53:49

       Because it's true.

    8. JRJoe Rogan53:49

       ... you're laughing. There's a lot of cracking up.

    9. BSBrendan Schaub53:51

       Yeah. I have fun. They let me do my thing. The first one it was like there was a lot of teleprompter and I was like, "God, that's really not my thing. You gotta let me go." And they listened to me. That's the great thing about Showtime, they listen to me, but the fans were like, "Man, this isn't why we listen to Brendan, to be another fricking sports show."

    10. JRJoe Rogan54:05

        Yeah.

    11. BSBrendan Schaub54:05

        "Like you gotta let him go."

    12. JRJoe Rogan54:07

        (laughs) Yeah.

    13. BSBrendan Schaub54:07

        And literally they all were like, "All right, here you go, man. Here's your points. Do what you wanna do." I'm like, "Really?"

    14. JRJoe Rogan54:11

        Yeah.

    15. BSBrendan Schaub54:12

        But then they edit it so I don't get in trouble.

    16. JRJoe Rogan54:15

        (laughs)

    17. BSBrendan Schaub54:15

        (laughs) Like on my podcast.

    18. JRJoe Rogan54:18

        On your podcast. (laughs)

    19. BSBrendan Schaub54:19

        ... which is why there's showtime in, um, what I do.

    20. JRJoe Rogan54:22

        Well, that, I mean, this is w- what we talked about the other day with Yves Edwards-

    21. BSBrendan Schaub54:26

        Ugh.

    22. JRJoe Rogan54:27

        ... when Yves was in here. That was, that's one of those things, like, and I was saying, when you talk as much as we talk, uh, w- we both... I talk too much, you talk too much, we talk too much.

    23. BSBrendan Schaub54:35

        Yes.

    24. JRJoe Rogan54:36

        When you talk too much, shit comes out of your mouth-

    25. BSBrendan Schaub54:38

        You're gonna step in some shit.

    26. JRJoe Rogan54:39

        ... and then you're scrambling trying to, like, make it make sense.

    27. BSBrendan Schaub54:44

        Joe, I c- and, uh, I- I can't... I- I didn't listen to the podcast with Yves. I- I like Yves. We don't know each other that well. The thing that bothers me about this is, I couldn't even tell you the point I was trying to make.

    28. JRJoe Rogan54:55

        (laughs)

    29. BSBrendan Schaub54:56

        I get... This one's like, "Give us a million dollars. Tell us the point you're trying to make." And like, I forget. I remember I had Kevin Leon, and then I remember before that I was 20 minutes deep into explaining why I think DC is the greatest of all time as a c- beside you as a commentator and why he's the future of the sport, and then, uh, before that show, me and Brian were talking about something with race and men and women, and somehow that entered my brain. And I have no animosity towards... (laughs) This is why it doesn't make sense.

    30. JRJoe Rogan55:23

        (laughs)
11. 59:18 – 1:07:38

    Showtime and the risks of talking for a living: the Yves Edwards misunderstanding

    1. BSBrendan Schaub59:18

       Have you ever been on stage... I was going through my set and I was th- oh, I was g- I've been doing it so much lately, I'll be in the middle of it and in my mind I'm fast-forward to already the next bit and I'm th- I'm thinking about that bit while I'm doing this one. Have you ever done that?

Episode duration: 2:44:01