JRE MMA Show #31 with Daniel Straus & Joe Schilling

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   Here we go in…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      Here we go in five, four, three, two, one. Boom! Ladies and gentlemen, Joe Schilling and Daniel Strauss (singing) in the fucking house.

   2. JSJoe Schilling0:12

      What up?

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      Joe Schilling's just fucking up my kick machine out there, man. That thing ain't reading right, dude.

   4. JSJoe Schilling0:16

      It... I mean, I hope not. It would really hurt my ego out there.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      You were lighting that fucker on fire. That thing is not r- We gotta get that recalibrated. (laughs)

   6. JSJoe Schilling0:22

      Joe's in here com- (laughs) Joe's in here complaining about a sciatic pain in his hip and still out-kicked me. I'm like, "What is going on out here?"

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:29

      (laughs)

   8. JSJoe Schilling0:29

      I'm all sweaty.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:30

      Forget about sciatic pain, Daniel Strauss, you've gone through some fucking pain, dude.

   10. DSDaniel Straus0:34

       That's right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       You are defying science and doctors and-

   12. DSDaniel Straus0:38

       (laughs) Trying to.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       They were telling you it was over.

   14. DSDaniel Straus0:40

       Yeah, it was, uh-

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       Tell everybody the whole story. Put this-

   16. DSDaniel Straus0:43

       I-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       Bring this sucker up here.

   18. DSDaniel Straus0:44

       All right. How the story goes, um, I was out one night, buddy of mine was having trouble, needed somebody to go out with him, so, uh, I was around the city that night. And, um, after taking him home, we were leaving the highway. As it split off, I was coming around. Was a-

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       You on a bike?

   20. DSDaniel Straus1:02

       Yeah, I was on a bike, so, and I had a passenger. So what was c- called 826, is the highway, as it splits off to 95, I was going around 826. (clears throat) Now, here's the tricky part. Don't really remember what's going on from there.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       Right.

   22. DSDaniel Straus1:16

       So the, what me and the passenger, uh, remember, we were hit from either the side or from the back. Um, but coming around the bend, boom, coming around, got pushed into the wall. I wake up under the, uh, guardrail. Can't move. You know, uh, nobody else is there and the car is gone. There was not really a witness there until, like, later pulling up behind us. So yeah, it fucked me up for a while. I mean, fuck me up right now, but you know, uh, getting back to just what it is, the body's healing and...

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:49

       So what was the extent of your injuries?

   24. DSDaniel Straus1:50

       All right. So, uh, I had, um, (smacks lips) in my C4, 5, and 6, uh, I had contusions on my spinal cord. And half of my... on the left side of my spinal cord, there was, uh, pressure so bad that it, like, shut down my whole nervous system, like all my body. So, uh, in my... up in my neck and in my middle of my back was just compressed, a lot of the swelling, and that's what, uh, caused a lot of the, you know, not being able to walk, not being able to feel, the nervous problems, nervous system that I have, or the nervous, uh, issues that I had, so...

   25. JRJoe Rogan2:26

       What did they do to fix it?

   26. DSDaniel Straus2:28

       I've been rehabbing. Uh, they wanted to do surgery right away, but-

   27. JRJoe Rogan2:32

       How many months ago was this you're talking about?

   28. DSDaniel Straus2:33

       This was in December.

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:33

       December.

   30. DSDaniel Straus2:33

       This was December 17th. So, um, they wanted to do re- uh, they wanted to do, uh, surgery immediately, you know. And I'm trying to tell them like, "No, I'm, I'm trying to fight again," blah, blah, blah, you know?
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   I, I do too.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      Coker.

   2. DSDaniel Straus15:00

      I, I do too.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      He's a good dude.

   4. DSDaniel Straus15:02

      He's always been good to me, yeah.

   5. JSJoe Schilling15:03

      Yeah, he's always been really good.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      I hear nothing but good things too-

   7. JSJoe Schilling15:05

      Mm-hmm.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      ... about Bellator and how they treat people.

   9. JSJoe Schilling15:06

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:06

       Like guys who have gone over there said it's a, it's just a huge relief.

   11. JSJoe Schilling15:10

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:11

       They get treated with respect, you know, like they were a little nervous about going over there.

   13. DSDaniel Straus15:14

       Right, right. You know, a lot of people always ask me, "Hey, what do you want?" I'm like, "Ah, this is home for me." You know what I mean? Like ...

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:20

       Mm-hmm. Man, the ide- ideal for everybody would be Bellator gets to the same state as the UFC.

   15. DSDaniel Straus15:25

       Right.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:25

       The same level.

   17. DSDaniel Straus15:26

       Right.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:26

       That would be ideal.

   19. DSDaniel Straus15:27

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:27

       That's ... That would help the world. Like, if you see Gennady Golovkin fighting Canelo Alvarez you don't give a fuck if it's Golden Boy versus Bob Arum.

   21. JSJoe Schilling15:34

       Right.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:34

       Nobody gives a shit.

   23. DSDaniel Straus15:35

       Right, right.

   24. JSJoe Schilling15:35

       Of course not. Right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:36

       They wanna see-

   26. DSDaniel Straus15:37

       Divorce.

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:37

       ... two world champions go after it.

   28. DSDaniel Straus15:38

       Right.

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:39

       That's, that's what everybody wants to see.

   30. DSDaniel Straus15:40

       Yeah.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   (breathes deeply) …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      There it goes. Burning. That's good. How is, uh, Bellator's drug testing policy?

   2. JSJoe Schilling30:05

      (breathes deeply)

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:05

      Do you know what?

   4. JSJoe Schilling30:06

      Standard, I think.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      Yeah.

   6. JSJoe Schilling30:07

      You know, we don't have, like, the additional, uh, you saw the random test.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:11

      Right.

   8. JSJoe Schilling30:11

      But I get tested before a- or after every fight.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:14

      I've been tested most of my fights. I know that. Yeah. So. And I've had people talk shit like, "Oh, they don't test, like..." Well- "I don't know what you're talking about." They test after fights.

   10. JSJoe Schilling30:24

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:24

       But obviously there's a big difference between that and, "Hey, it's four weeks out. Wake up 6:30 in the morning."

   12. JSJoe Schilling30:29

       Sure. Sure.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:29

       "What have you been up to Daniel? Here, piss in this cup. Look at that steroids."

   14. JSJoe Schilling30:32

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:32

       Crazy. I mean, they, they have lost a lot of people off the roster in the UFC. The really crazy thing is that the body's changing.

   16. JSJoe Schilling30:39

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:39

       Like, people you weren't sure. You know, you know, everybody passed the test when they were doing it on the way in day, but then you're looking at their bodies changed. You're like, "Whoa." "Who is this guy?" Yeah.

   18. JSJoe Schilling30:48

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:48

       So many of them just shriveled up, and they just look totally different.

   20. JSJoe Schilling30:50

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:50

       And their performances are different. Their mindset's different.

   22. JSJoe Schilling30:53

       Like guys that were just unstoppable on the side that came in now.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:56

       Mm-hmm.

   24. JSJoe Schilling30:56

       It's like they're on, like, a six fight losing streak.

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       Crazy.

   26. JSJoe Schilling30:59

       Drop two weight classes, can't get a win. Right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:01

       Anybody who says the steroids doesn't work are ... They're crazy.

   28. JSJoe Schilling31:03

       Stupid. Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:04

       You're out of your fucking mind. They're not taking it for fun. (laughs)

   30. JSJoe Schilling31:07

       Right. Right.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      ... It's amazing that more people don't know about it and that more people aren't talking about it. But anybody that's involved in contact sports, any athlete that, you know, is getting hit-

   2. JSJoe Schilling45:09

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:09

      ... and m- ... They're getting their cage rattled a lot, they should be taking that stuff all the time.

   4. JSJoe Schilling45:12

      Claps hands Yeah. Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:12

      Yeah.

   6. JSJoe Schilling45:13

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:13

      And CBD as well, right?

   8. JSJoe Schilling45:15

      Yeah, for sure. I mean, I just look at it, like, uh, the business that we're in is really dangerous and, like, if you know that there's something that, you know, uh ... Guys get punchy, right, or guys l- lose their chin or, um, uh, have problems, like performing on, on fight night or whatever. Like, if you can, if you can take CBD to be better for swelling, you can take lion's mane to repair the concussions and shit that we're getting constantly. Like, I just think you're kinda stupid if you're not- Mm-hmm. Yeah. ... actively trying to figure out a solution to all these problems.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:45

      Have you ever fucked with kratom?

   10. JSJoe Schilling45:47

       I never ... Uh, not really. I know people that have. I, I was, uh, I was hanging out with Simon Rex yesterday and he was telling me, like, some awesome stories about people that, uh, were addicted to opiates.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:57

       Mm-hmm.

   12. JSJoe Schilling45:57

       They got off of it with kratom. I think it's awesome.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:59

       Simon Rex, AKA Dirt Nasty?

   14. JSJoe Schilling46:01

       Yeah, so good.

   15. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       (laughs)

   16. JSJoe Schilling46:02

       So funny, dude. Such an awesome dude.

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:04

       He's a good dude. I, uh, I took eight krat- eight pills yesterday, which, uh, most of the time I was taking two, and then I took four, and then yesterday I took eight. Now I get it. That stuff makes you high as fuck.

   18. JSJoe Schilling46:18

       Really?

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:18

       When you take eight, my, my whole body felt weird. I was, I was, like, pretending to be sober. I was walking around pretending to be sober, but not, like, uh, drunk, not, not like reaction time, like, you know, like I almost knocked something off the counter, I caught it real quick. It's like everything's normal.

   20. JSJoe Schilling46:34

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:34

       Like, your body moves good, but, uh, you're like, "Woo." You feel weird. You feel like, "Woo." Like, you're under the effects.

   22. JSJoe Schilling46:41

       Oh. Like mentally or, like, physically feeling weird?

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:42

       Mentally, it's, it's very ni-

   24. JSJoe Schilling46:44

       Like a body buzz?

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:44

       Like, yeah, it gives you a body buzz, but it's, uh, it's great at alleviating anxiety.

   26. JSJoe Schilling46:49

       Hmm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:50

       Like, it makes you really chill. It's weird. It just, like, puts you in this nice headspace where you're just like, "Ah." Like, everything is calm. And I think the idea is that it fills up these opium receptors.

   28. DSDaniel Straus47:01

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan47:01

       And that's what, uh, what people that have had real problems with opiates, that's why they like it, because even if you're fucked up on it, you're not fucked up, like, "Ehh." Like, um, you're fucked up, like, "Whoo, I feel something. Something crazy is going on." And I, I was taking eight and, uh, my buddy, Chris Bell, he's the guy who directed that, uh, Bigger Stronger Faster documentary.

   30. DSDaniel Straus47:21

       Mm-hmm.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:05:02

   Because I think, I…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

   2. JSJoe Schilling1:00:00

      Because I think, I think they probably would have a hard time saying, like-... oh, Daniel can fight 10 rounds of MMA tonight, legally.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:06

      Mm-hmm.

   4. JSJoe Schilling1:00:06

      That's probably not a-

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      Yeah.

   6. JSJoe Schilling1:00:07

      That's probably not a thing.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      What's the most rounds of kickboxing you ever fought in a night? Other than that- that tournament, like one single fight?

   8. JSJoe Schilling1:00:14

      Oh, five, five rounds.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:15

      Five.

   10. JSJoe Schilling1:00:15

       When I was fighting Muay Thai, it was always five rounds.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:17

       That's pretty, always l- always like that, right?

   12. JSJoe Schilling1:00:18

       Yeah. Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:19

       Why is that?

   14. JSJoe Schilling1:00:20

       Um, I think the- um, the- the rule set in Thailand is, uh, based primarily around gambling. It's like c- human cockfighting is what Muay Thai is in- in Thailand, essentially. It sounds negative, but it's kinda that way. Everybody in the audience is- is gambling, they're betting and, you know, yelling and, uh, motioning back and forth between the betting. So like in Thailand, it's a three-minute round, but it's a two-minute rest, which I think is awesome. (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:44

       Hmm, uh, it is awesome.

   16. JSJoe Schilling1:00:45

       But if you-

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:46

       You ever fight over there?

   18. JSJoe Schilling1:00:47

       Yeah, I fought, uh, for the WBC world title over there, and-

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:49

       Wow.

   20. JSJoe Schilling1:00:50

       ... I think-

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

       What year was this?

   22. JSJoe Schilling1:00:52

       ... Puh... wah... I don't know. Jamie. (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:56

       (laughs)

   24. JSJoe Schilling1:00:56

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:56

       They play the music?

   26. JSJoe Schilling1:00:58

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:00:58

       Man.

   28. JSJoe Schilling1:00:58

       Yeah, for sure. And I fought at, uh, Rajadamnern Stadium in Thailand, which is like one of the-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:03

       Wow.

   30. JSJoe Schilling1:01:03

       Rajadamnern and, uh, Lumpinee-

Episode duration: 1:44:39