JRE MMA Show #33 with Brendan Schaub

They point out how standard tips like “get big and yell at a bear” or “punch a shark in the nose” ignore that animals, like dogs, have different personalities and contexts (e.g., a mother with cubs), so survival advice is highly situational.

Using examples from Firas Zahabi and elite strength coaches, they discuss building capacity with frequent, sub‑maximal work (e.g., spreading 40 pull‑ups over a day) to avoid crippling soreness, especially important in multi‑discipline sports like MMA.

Rogan and Schaub argue that if everyone were on the same drugs, the best fighters like Jon Jones or Vitor Belfort would likely still be on top, because technique, IQ, and mentality remain decisive even when chemistry is equalized.

They highlight cases like Josh Barnett and Junior dos Santos where fighters were flagged and later cleared, losing prime career time with little public correction or compensation, underscoring the need for more transparent, accountable testing systems.

Talking Chuck Liddell, Tito Ortiz, Vitor Belfort and “masters leagues,” they express that while adults should choose to fight if they want, it’s troubling when financial need—rather than pure competitive fire—pushes damaged veterans back into high‑risk bouts.