JRE MMA Show #33 with Brendan Schaub

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (clears throat) Three, two, one.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (clears throat) Three, two, one. Yee-haw! I walked in, you guys were watching soccer. I was hugely disappointed.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub0:11

      Dude, England's in penalty kicks.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      Oh my God, is that okay?

   4. BSBrendan Schaub0:14

      Dude-

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      What happened? (laughs)

   6. BSBrendan Schaub0:14

      ... well, like, (laughs) it's the World Cup, man. If they win, they move on. So, uh, but the penalty kick thing- And they just won. They just won.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      They just won?

   8. BSBrendan Schaub0:20

      England just won.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      We missed it?

   10. BSBrendan Schaub0:21

       They just fucking won.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       Missed it? Are you guys rooting for England?

   12. BSBrendan Schaub0:23

       Yeah, I'm- I'm-

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       Are you?

   14. BSBrendan Schaub0:24

       ... I'm English, man. I'm half English. My mom's-

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       Are you?

   16. BSBrendan Schaub0:25

       My mom was born and raised there, bro.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       I thought you were bi.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub0:27

       What's up, bro? I know, most people do.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       (laughs)

   20. BSBrendan Schaub0:30

       English, son.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       So you really root for England?

   22. BSBrendan Schaub0:32

       Yeah, big time.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       No shit?

   24. BSBrendan Schaub0:34

       Yes.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Wow.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub0:35

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Oh.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub0:36

       I know.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       Do you-

   30. BSBrendan Schaub0:37

       Well, if U.S. isn't in it, you know-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   5'3". …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      gymnast?

   2. BSBrendan Schaub15:01

      5'3".

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      Are they really tiny?

   4. BSBrendan Schaub15:04

      Tiny, stocky, jacked, jacked.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      But they, but they've also been lifting like that since, like, four months old.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub15:10

      All I was getting at-

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:11

      Sorry, man.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub15:12

      ... before your horrific-

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:13

      No, I k- I correct to say small people.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub15:16

       ... ableist rant.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:17

       (laughs)

   12. BSBrendan Schaub15:17

       Uh, do you know what ableist is?

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:19

       No, please don't.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub15:19

       It's the newest thing.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:19

       No, what is it?

   16. BSBrendan Schaub15:20

       They say if you make fun of someone who has a disability, you're ableist, including stupid people. Tall gymnast is no oxymoron. Okay, the average height for adult male gymnast is around 5'4" to 5'7". Jonathan Horton is listed as 5'1", 5'6", 5'8". So five... The tallest one is my height, 5'8".

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:40

       I mean, he's like the, the Dikembe Mutombo of gymnastics.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub15:43

       (fart noise) (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       He's like the tallest gymnast.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub15:45

       He's an outlier.

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       Who's the tallest?

   22. JVJamie Vernon15:47

       This is a... Like, the tallest girl is like 5'2".

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:49

       Oh, Jesus. So that makes sense.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub15:51

       And then our studs-

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:52

       Does it say gymnastics stunts growth? Is that, is that really what they think?

   26. JVJamie Vernon15:56

       Or does it-

   27. BSBrendan Schaub15:56

       They start super young.

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       It said that right below that. There was an article, Does Gymnastics Stunt Growth? Is that a real question?

   29. JVJamie Vernon16:01

       Oh, whether it stunts growth.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       Right.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Tim Means. …

   1. BSBrendan Schaub30:00

      Same thing, like, they've had other guys, right? Like the, the, The Dirty Bird. What's his name?

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      Tim Means.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub30:04

      Tim Means, they came out that, "Our, our bad."

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      Over-the-counter.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub30:08

      Yeah. "You didn't take anything."

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:09

      Took some...

   7. BSBrendan Schaub30:09

      Yeah, it's all good, right?

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:09

      He took, like, some protein powder that wa- that ha- was slightly contaminated.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub30:13

      And that came out as true. And with Josh Barnett, it took a year to figure this out. And then they go, "My bad, bro. Yeah, yeah, I know you missed a year in your, you know, older fighter and it's a year of not getting paid. My bad. You're back... You're welcome back now." And Barnett's going, "Fuck this, man, I'm out."

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:27

       Is that really what they did?

   11. BSBrendan Schaub30:28

       I promise you that's what they did.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:30

       See, that seems-

   13. BSBrendan Schaub30:30

       That's, that's-

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:30

       ... to me to be a, a case where you've made an error that should be... You should compensate that fighter.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub30:38

       That's what I'm saying. He should be-

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:39

       Yeah.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub30:39

       ... fully compensated. He should have went-

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:41

       But you can't force a guy if you made the mistake. That's, that's like a... I mean, I'm not a business person, but if I was a business person, I'd be like, "Well, this is a clear case of someone owing someone money because you fucked up."

   19. BSBrendan Schaub30:52

       But what, what the USADA's going to say is it was an investigation, it took us that long to figure... to get to the bottom of it. That's the process. That's how long it took.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:59

       Yeah, but they were wrong, right? So if they were wrong, so all their investigation stuff they did that took so long to get to the bottom of, you accused a guy who's innocent, right?

   21. BSBrendan Schaub31:10

       Yeah, but see, don't they say-

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:12

       Is that how it works?

   23. BSBrendan Schaub31:12

       They say potentially flagged for PDs, right? They don't-

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:14

       Mm-hmm.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub31:14

       ... say what you're flagged for, and then it goes into investigation. But they're not... They, they don't say he was... He's suspended or he ta- tested positive for this. They say potentially flagged, and there's an investigation, then took a year to figure that out.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:27

       I think that they, the U- USADA, like, especially, uh, under the whatever guidelines that they had coming in here had a lot to work with, right? There's a lot of fighters. You gotta figure out who's... You gotta test this one more.

   27. BSBrendan Schaub31:44

       Oh, it's a nightmare.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:45

       It's... I mean, it must be crazy.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub31:46

       Mu- mu- must be a nightmare. I'm not saying it's a easy job. I, I, I, I think it's too much.

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:50

       It's a very hard job.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   ... fucking fast. He…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      Uh, you know, I'm cautious Larry. I'm like, "No, no, no, no. Please, he has to work on his standup. Don't fucking let him do it, man." And then Rener's like, "Dude, he wants to do it." And then, fucking, I was way off. That motherfucker- He got good with his hands quick.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub45:11

      ... fucking fast. He steps up to the level of competition, man.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:14

      Well, he definitely does, but it's also, he's so good at jujitsu that he just took whatever that focus is that got him so good at jujitsu and applied it to striking. And now, he's a, he's just a winner. He knows how to win. You know what I mean? He knows how to put shit together. When he landed that uppercut on Frankie, and I was like, "Jesus."

   4. BSBrendan Schaub45:31

      Vicious.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:31

      Like, Frankie's a hard guy to fucking hit clean.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub45:34

      (laughs) What? Impossible.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:35

      Yeah.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub45:35

      Especially for Gray Maynard. Yeah, it's a fucking nightmare.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:37

      To me, well, and even Gray Maynard, he came back and won that fight.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub45:39

       Which was insane.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:39

       Right? Which is insane. Draw in the first fight, KOs him in the second fight.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub45:43

       Insane. Insane.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:43

       Those fights were fucking chaos, man.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub45:45

       That's some of the best.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       But the fact that Ortega took him out, I mean, some people say, "Well, maybe Frankie's at the end of his rope. He's in, you know, he's in his, deep into his 30s now." What is he, 36?

   16. BSBrendan Schaub45:54

       Something like that, right? 36, 34? Either way, though, it's Frankie Edgar.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:59

       Either way it's Frankie Edgar.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub46:00

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:00

       And then he went on to beat Cub Swanson, what?

   20. BSBrendan Schaub46:02

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       Like four weeks later or some shit?

   22. BSBrendan Schaub46:03

       Yeah, he was like, "No, I'll do that in New Jersey."

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:05

       Yeah.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub46:06

       36.

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:07

       Yeah.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub46:07

       There you go.

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:07

       Yeah. Just phenomenal conditioning.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub46:09

       Dude, and then also on this card you got DC fucking Stipe. To, to me it's like the first real, like we're in the superfight era, to me this is like the first real, real superfight. Like GSP, Bisping, I was like, "That's cool that the thick-ass GSP I guess that's superfight." But DC/Stipe is a fucking real superfight, man.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:28

       That's a real superfight.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub46:30

       I love it, man.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:01:58

   Yeah, man. …

   1. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      Yeah, man.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:00

      You keep that-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

      Maybe.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:01

      ... and you keep your greasy mouth shut-

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

      Keep your greasy mouth shut.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:03

      ... while these boys come over and punch each other in the face.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:06

      Yeah.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:06

      Don't fuck up our ESPN deal.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

       Wow.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:09

       And who wouldn't want to see that?

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:11

       Yeah, maybe ESPN pull him aside, take him into some smoky room.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:15

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:15

       Sit down there with some Cuban cigars and some fine-

   15. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:17

       What are we doing here?

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

       ... fine whiskey and talk.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:19

       How long is their deal with USADA?

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

       I don't know.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:21

       Do we know?

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

       I don't know.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:22

       Do we have any idea?

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:23

       I don't know.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:24

       They're ... Because he had to sign a contract.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:00:26

       (inhales deeply) I don't know.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:28

       I bet there's a countdown in Dana's office just every day, 364 days.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

       (laughs)

   27. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:33

       364 days. (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

       (laughs) Oh, the whole thing is kind of crazy that it's self-imposed.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:40

       Right? (laughs) What are you doing, man?

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:00:42

       Well, it was a gr- it was a gr- it's a great move-

Episode duration: 2:53:56