The Joe Rogan ExperienceJRE MMA Show #36 with Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen
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Da Vinci, the Mona Lisa, and the “self-portrait in drag” theory
- JRJoe Rogan
Four, three, two, one. So we get here and young Jamie is obsessed-
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... with whether or not Leonardo da Vinci is gay. And, uh, so he says it to Kallen, and then Kallen says-
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
So you said-
- BCBryan Callen
I said the Mona Lisa, the Mona Lisa has a mischievous smile on her face. And appa-apparently, according to art historians, I believe that is a self-portrait, and that was da Vinci himself in drag.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is this a conspiracy theory, sir?
- BCBryan Callen
And that's why he is looking back at you with sort of a wry smirk.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't see that wry smirk. Young Jamie, please pull up-
- BCBryan Callen
(clears throat)
- JRJoe Rogan
... a photograph of-
- BSBrendan Schaub
This is-
- JRJoe Rogan
... the masterpiece.
- BSBrendan Schaub
This is a conspiracy theory?
- BCBryan Callen
No. This is, I think this is-
- JRJoe Rogan
This is real?
- BCBryan Callen
I think this is, um-
- BSBrendan Schaub
They didn't tell you that in school, bro?
- BCBryan Callen
At least Dan Brown in his book, uh, The Da Vinci Code actually talks about it. But I- I- this is, I think this is-
- BSBrendan Schaub
You talking about the Tom Hank- you talking about the Tom Hank movies?
- BCBryan Callen
... standard. Yes. Good movie. Good book.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Well...
- BCBryan Callen
Better book.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Well-
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
The part, the book is a different thing than the movies.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Still though-
- BCBryan Callen
Dan Brown, I think, is a professor of theology in, at Harvard or he... Or something like that. (clears throat)
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay. I don't see a sly smile. I see-
- BCBryan Callen
Oh, there's a smile.
- 1:15 – 6:01
Fluoride in water: evidence, “hippie articles,” and trusting sources
- BCBryan Callen
Ho- here's an interesting thing. Do you know that, like, people did have bad teeth back then, of course, but the majority of the teeth problems that we have in this country have to do with sugar.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I thought it was the, uh, the water, the fluoride in the water back there.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no fluoride in the water. The, that fluoride in the water thing is so sketchy. Have you ever looked into whether or not fluoride should be in the water?
- BCBryan Callen
Well, they, I know that-
- BSBrendan Schaub
You ever brush your teeth in Detroit?
- BCBryan Callen
I know that in the '50s-
- JRJoe Rogan
But that's-
- BCBryan Callen
... Colorado had a high concentration of fluoride in its water. And apparently the-
- BSBrendan Schaub
(coughs) Apparently, Brad smokes weed and turns into a fucking-
- BCBryan Callen
I know, I know. (laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
... professor. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And another thing, everyone-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Apparently.
- BCBryan Callen
Apparently-
- JRJoe Rogan
Dead serious.
- BSBrendan Schaub
You're dead serious.
- BCBryan Callen
Apparently, if I could get my poker out, I'm going to poke at the, uh, at the board.
- JRJoe Rogan
Don't care about fluoride.
- BCBryan Callen
But I think, I think it came out of Colorado where there was high concentrations of fluoride in the water. And then what happened was they go, "Well, there's a cluster of people who are not getting cavities." And so apparently fluoride is effective at keeping cavities at bay. And I grew up overseas, my teeth are fucking riddled with holes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Terrible.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Terrible. (laughs) Riddled with holes. I had fucking-
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you eat sugar?
- BCBryan Callen
What? Well, not so much overseas, but I, I, uh, I definitely didn't brush my teeth a lot and I didn't have fluoride.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, let's, let's Google whether or not there's evidence that fluoride is good for tooth decay, to good preventive decay.
- BSBrendan Schaub
You think it's all marketing hype from press?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know, man. I've read too many hippie articles.
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
The problem is the hippie articles confuse you-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Wow.
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- 6:01 – 8:59
Dental work, Invisalign, and Tom Cruise’s evolving smile
- JRJoe Rogan
You can kind of look at general trends. Like I said to my... I had all this metal in my teeth, right? And my dentist, I was like-
- BSBrendan Schaub
That can't be good for cavities.
- JRJoe Rogan
... "Look, man, I gotta get it out." 'Cause, you know, it leaks mercury and... And he said, "I know, I was on the, I was on that study panel." And if you look at the massive, the massive number of people that have metal in their mouth, you'd have, you would be able to draw some pretty broad-based conclusions because you have such a huge human- Pool.
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah, pool.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
And they just haven't. They looked at the... They do a lot of comprehensive studies to that, so.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Is this the same dentist who said your teeth are straight?
- BCBryan Callen
Uh, no, this is a different one and I'm wearing my Invisalign, so-
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs)
- BCBryan Callen
... I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't go after my teeth because they're gonna be amazing.
- JRJoe Rogan
How do you do that? Do you wear it, wear it at night?
- BCBryan Callen
I'm wearing them right now and you can't tell.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Remember when Tom Cruise was like 50 and he got braces?
- BCBryan Callen
Sure did.
- JRJoe Rogan
Everybody was like, "Yo."
- BSBrendan Schaub
"Yo, what are you doing?" And then he came in with veneers. He's like, "You know what? My bad, my bad."
- BCBryan Callen
He also changed his voice.
- JRJoe Rogan
Did he?
- BCBryan Callen
Did you notice?
- JRJoe Rogan
Wait a minute. Did he do that? He went with veneers?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Oh, dude, you ever see the before afters?
- JRJoe Rogan
He's like, "I can't do the braces thing anymore."
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah, they're, they're brilliant.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- BSBrendan Schaub
His teeth are so good.
- JRJoe Rogan
Veneers are amazing.
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
That's what I'm saying, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's amazing.
- BCBryan Callen
Yes.
- 8:59 – 11:16
Tom Cruise stunts, Scientology, and separating talent from ideology
- JRJoe Rogan
Homeboy was 56, still doing action movies, still does his own stunts, jumps from building to building, breaks his ankle in filming.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Beast. Beast.
- JRJoe Rogan
Have you seen that shit?
- BCBryan Callen
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
Apparently, this Mission: Impossible movie is a motherfucker.
- BSBrendan Schaub
And it's killing it.
- JRJoe Rogan
They said it's killing it. It's awesome. I keep hearing-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah, best Mission: Possible yet. Me too.
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I keep hearing it.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Everyone tells me it's great.
- JRJoe Rogan
I keep hearing it's fantastic.
- BCBryan Callen
He's still awesome, I'm sorry.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's a ... He's awesome.
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's aw- ... He's crazy as fuck-
- BCBryan Callen
Legit movie star.
- JRJoe Rogan
... but he is awesome.
- BCBryan Callen
He's also nice as shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know what else, dude? He's, he was bec- ... Watch this. He jumps off this and breaks his fucking ankle.
- BCBryan Callen
No, that ... Did he really do that?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes, he did.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah, bro. He does all his own stunts.
- JRJoe Rogan
He not only did do it, but watch when he lands. Watch how jacked his ankle gets.
- BCBryan Callen
Ow! Ow! Ow!
- JRJoe Rogan
See this? Boom, all fucked up.
- BCBryan Callen
Dude.
- BSBrendan Schaub
You ain't ready for that, B. You wanna be a worldwide action hero? Just ...
- BCBryan Callen
I can't do that. No.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, look at that. Watch how it hits. Watch how it hits.
- 11:16 – 16:47
Movie talk detour: Face/Off, acting classes, and ‘Gotti’ getting a zero
- BCBryan Callen
Good actor. Face Off?
- JRJoe Rogan
He's a very good actor.
- BCBryan Callen
Face Off?
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, he's a very good actor.
- BCBryan Callen
Face Off was a terrible movie.
- JRJoe Rogan
Face Off?
- BSBrendan Schaub
Oh. Good movie.
- JRJoe Rogan
See, that's why he's wearing braces.
- BCBryan Callen
(laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
That's a Craig Bove movie!
Good movie.
- JRJoe Rogan
When they cut the face off and put it on the other person?
- BCBryan Callen
That could happen, bro.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Then it's Nic- Nic Cage.
- JRJoe Rogan
You see that the bone structure magically changes and Nic Cage looks like John Travolta-
- BCBryan Callen
Hold on, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
... but John Travolta looks like Nic Cage?
- BSBrendan Schaub
You don't like Face Off?
- BCBryan Callen
Somebody's anti-technology.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Are you a terrorist? You don't like fucking Face Off?
- JRJoe Rogan
That, that shit is not real. There's no way, bro. Okay, what would happen if Brian took his face off-
- BCBryan Callen
Wait, do we believe Tom Cruise?
- JRJoe Rogan
... and put it on you? I would think you were a monster.
- BCBryan Callen
People are like, "Oh, that's Brian." And then Brian got jacked.
- JRJoe Rogan
I would think there's a, there's a monster here.
- BCBryan Callen
No, people would be like, "First of all, your head's way bigger, so your skin would be like some 60-year-old lady from Bel-Air."
- JRJoe Rogan
(AI voice screaming)
- BCBryan Callen
(AI voice screaming)
- BSBrendan Schaub
Bro, dude-
- JRJoe Rogan
Those 60-year-old ladies where their mouth looks like it's so big it could eat your head-
- 16:47 – 22:08
Scientology firsthand stories, Going Clear, and why “purpose” can still work
- JRJoe Rogan
I know a lot of Scientologists.
- BCBryan Callen
... told everybody that you loved them.
- JRJoe Rogan
I was in the class for 10 years that is cited in the book by... Uh, in, in Going Clear.
- BCBryan Callen
Mm.
- JRJoe Rogan
That whole class, that- that- that... I was in that class.
- BCBryan Callen
Dude, I remember.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
You had me come to one of those little events.
- JRJoe Rogan
You went? Sure did.
- BCBryan Callen
I went to an event, a thing that was going on.
- JRJoe Rogan
Watched a guy sing.
- BCBryan Callen
We- we- we watched a guy sing while we were so high.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
We were in, like, a neighboring dimension watching reality through a dirty mirror.
In the Scientology building?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
I wanna get in there so bad.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was- it was near there. It was like some-
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
It was near there. It was at a theater. We were barbecued. I mean, buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-barbecued.
- JRJoe Rogan
Freaking out.
- BCBryan Callen
(laughs)
Freaking out watching this... They- they were singing songs from musicals.
- JRJoe Rogan
And it was not good and, and Joe was just like, "Wow."
- BCBryan Callen
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
"This was amazing."
- BCBryan Callen
Dude, they have so much money.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
I drove by the one in, uh... It's kinda like the Silver Lake area of Hollywood. Fuck, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
They got a lot of money, yeah.
- 22:08 – 24:34
Pre-internet gullibility: Dianetics infomercials, steroids myths, and Google-era scrutiny
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I think people want something that makes it... Look, I bought the book. I bought Dianetics.
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah, me too.
- JRJoe Rogan
I bought it through a late night ad-
- BCBryan Callen
You bought it?
- JRJoe Rogan
... in 1994, son.
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Pre-internet. I was at home-
- BCBryan Callen
God.
- JRJoe Rogan
... chilling in my apartment in North Hollywood.
- BCBryan Callen
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And I was like, "Damn, this sounds like they're making a lot of sense here."
- BCBryan Callen
Wow. (laughs)
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
And it, and it does make sense.
- JRJoe Rogan
The volcano, the lava.
- BCBryan Callen
(laughs) What the fuck?
Dude.
But some of it does make sense, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Listen, what are you, 35?
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay. I'm 50. 15 years older than you. So you got to think, you don't really remember before the internet.
- BCBryan Callen
No, not really.
- JRJoe Rogan
You were like an infant.
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay? I was here as a grown man when the internet hit in 1994. But before that, p-... You would get late night infomercials. You'd be buying fucking squeegees and shit and-
- BCBryan Callen
We were pre-cellphone.
... sponge rackers.
Yeah, I was pre-cellphone, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, when I met Ryan, he didn't have a phone.
- 24:34 – 26:23
Tony Robbins, fire-walking physics, and why people fall for spectacle
- JRJoe Rogan
I had Anthony Robbins cassettes. I had a fucking-
- BCBryan Callen
Me too.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was a vinyl thing and you'd open it up. It had all these different cassettes. And I would listen to those by the pool in my shitty apartment in Ravenna.
- BCBryan Callen
Tony Robbins?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes, man.
- BCBryan Callen
But didn't you get a lot from... I got a lot out of those.
- JRJoe Rogan
Got a lot from it.
- BCBryan Callen
He's legit as fuck, though.
I got a lot out of that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Legit.
- BCBryan Callen
Tony Robbins is as good as legit. Tony Robbins is legit.
Now, now there's a bunch of people trying to do his shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just a lot of frauds.
- BCBryan Callen
All buying... Just smoking his-
Tony Robbins knows how the human brain works. I, I, I found him enormously helpful.
He's brilliant.
- JRJoe Rogan
But there's guys that it's the same thing as, like, with musicians or with carpenters or with comedians. A-
- BCBryan Callen
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
There's people that are just kind of bumbling through it and there's people that kill it.
- BCBryan Callen
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
And, and when it comes to, like, the self-help personal growth type shit-
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... he kills it.
- BCBryan Callen
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
But here's what's interesting.... people are so goofy that, you know, he does those f- coal walk things. These dumb motherfuckers are trying to take selfies while they're coal walking and they're burning their feet off-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Oh, my God.
- JRJoe Rogan
... 'cause these stupid fucks actually believe that their, the- the power-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... of their will is keeping them from...
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- 26:23 – 31:49
Foot horror stories: cliff jumps, barefoot shoes, infections, and toenail surgery
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you know Shane Maus?
- BSBrendan Schaub
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
The standup comic?
- BSBrendan Schaub
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
He, um, was hiking at night and jumped off of, like, a cliff and landed on his feet and broke both of his feet.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Fucking A.
- JRJoe Rogan
He jumped and landed, like, 10 feet below.
- BSBrendan Schaub
God damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
In the mountains. He had to figure out how to get down.
- BSBrendan Schaub
What was he thinking?
- JRJoe Rogan
He was- he just fucked up. He made a mistake. I forget the exact story. Do you remember the exact story?
- JVJamie Vernon
I think it was, like, a very, like, normal jump. It wasn't anything crazy. Like, he didn't jump somewhere. He just, like, dropped or, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
I think he-
- JVJamie Vernon
... took a step down or something.
- JRJoe Rogan
... I- I might be conflating him with someone else. There was another person I know that fell at night and they di- they, it might be a different story. I'm thinking of a second guy who also fell on cliffs. Anywa- either way.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Shane Mouse broke both of his feet. And he-
- BSBrendan Schaub
I think he was using crutches for, like, six months.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, I think it- I think it was the book Blood Meridian and he talks about- and this apparently was a practice of his. There was a tribe, this cowboy gets captured by these Native Americans and the Native Americans kill the- his whole posse. And then they take him and they take his feet, uh, his shoes off. And they just cut the first layer of his feet off. They kinda give him a nice shaving so that just the soles of his feet are taken off.
- BSBrendan Schaub
So fucked up.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they- and so he would have to crawl back into town-
- BSBrendan Schaub
Jesus.
- JRJoe Rogan
... to explain to them who the fuck was out there. (laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
Jesus.
- BCBryan Callen
Jesus.
- JRJoe Rogan
That would suck.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Some dark shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
And he had to crawl, like, 10 miles and shit.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Oh my gosh.
- JVJamie Vernon
There's a story about it.
- 31:49 – 33:41
Comedy life updates: Chicago shows, specials, and the grind of touring
- BSBrendan Schaub
So I- I opened up for Brian in Chicago, and I do like this dirty bit. (laughs) We're in the back and his- his mom and his dad, I'm like ... Oh, it hit me right when they walked in. I went, "Oh, fuck. I just did that in front of Brian's mom, dad, his two kids, and his wife." I was like, notice I just went quiet.
- JRJoe Rogan
(tires screeching)
- BCBryan Callen
I was so ... I was like, "Oh, fuck." You were great. It was funny though. He was funny.
- BSBrendan Schaub
You gotta do what you gotta do.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what I was like, "You guys decided to come."
- BSBrendan Schaub
"Hey, you decided to come."
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah, that's it.
- BSBrendan Schaub
"I'm not changing it for you."
- JRJoe Rogan
No. No.
- BSBrendan Schaub
"I can't. I gotta do my thing. I apologize."
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah. They loved it, man. They loved it.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Don't get mad at me.
- BCBryan Callen
They loved it.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I was so embarrassed though.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's comedy. Don't get mad. Fuck no.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Don't get mad.
- BCBryan Callen
It's great.
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Great shows.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Your dad does have a dick on him though.
- BCBryan Callen
Shout out to Chicago, Th- Thalia Hall. Thanks everybody for coming out. Sold out three shows.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes. So when you do this now, um, is this a- a self-funded thing? Did you-
- BCBryan Callen
No, this is, uh, Comedy Dynamics, uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
So they're doing a lot of specials now, right?
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah, and they did a great job. I love the space. It looked amazing and-
- JRJoe Rogan
Who ... How many different specials have they done? Who's, uh, who's on the show?
- BCBryan Callen
270.
- JRJoe Rogan
That is incredible.
- BCBryan Callen
I know.
- BSBrendan Schaub
It's a lot.
- 33:41 – 36:22
Rats, nutria, and invasive-species rabbit holes
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, my God. Chicago's now America's rat capital. Chicago beats out New York City, Boston, and Washington DC as America's rat capital.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Rats?
- BCBryan Callen
Okay, here's the problem with this.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Rats are a problem.
- JRJoe Rogan
They don't know how many rats are out there. They're just bullshitting.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I-
- JRJoe Rogan
They're not doing a detailed fucking analysis.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Dude, you don't know where they live.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, well, how do you know how many ... How do they really know how many rats there are in New York? Are they just guessing?
- BCBryan Callen
I don't think so. I think they can actually ... Don't they ... Can't they tell by like ... Like, my buddy had a-
It's off complaints.
- JRJoe Rogan
What's that?
- BCBryan Callen
He says off of complaints.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Ah, get the fuck out of here.
- BCBryan Callen
Get the fuck out of here. (laughs)
Get the fuck out of here.
- JRJoe Rogan
That means Chicago's complaining more.
- BCBryan Callen
(laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Is Chi- Chicago known for being bitches more than Boston?
- BCBryan Callen
People are inside more in Boston. (laughs)
You're scared of a fucking rodent? Come on, bro.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Who am I gonna call about a rat?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
That's why LA's not on it. They don't give a fuck.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, my- my buddy had a ... Bought a building in New York and he had to clean it out.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
In the basement. Jimmy Burke told me, my buddy Steve Schucker was coming out with ... When they were killing them, they had this ... They were poisoning them. They were coming out with garbage bags, the industrial size garbage bags full of rats.
- BSBrendan Schaub
(groans)
- JRJoe Rogan
And they did it for three days, just shoom. It was thousands, tens of thousands.
- 36:22 – 45:16
Thailand wildlife tourism: drugged tigers vs ethical elephant rehab
- BSBrendan Schaub
Did you see Crazy Animals?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BSBrendan Schaub
I saw your Instagram joke. How are- how are the crazy-ass animals in Thailand?
- JRJoe Rogan
You know what the most depressing thing was? We went to one of those, uh, tiger sanctuary things.
- BCBryan Callen
Oh, yeah.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Oh, where they're on like NyQuil or some shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, they're drugged the fuck up for sure.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you know why ... How you can tell?
- BSBrendan Schaub
'Cause people get in there?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, first of all because the- the babies. They'll let you touch the babies first. There's like different packages so you could package the baby package or the young lion package or the giant lion package.
- BSBrendan Schaub
You get that VIP package?
- BCBryan Callen
I'll take baby. I'll take baby.
- JRJoe Rogan
So the babies are adorable, these little cute things, but they're super like playful and active and big. And then you get to like a little bigger and they seem to be behaving normal and they have a bunch of trainers in there with them. And then you get to the big ones, and the big ones are fucking doped out of their mind, like they just gave them a bucket of heroin.
- BCBryan Callen
God.
- JRJoe Rogan
So they're just laying there like this, like looking at you.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Whoa.
- BCBryan Callen
I believe it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, just ... They didn't ... None of them got up.
- BSBrendan Schaub
That's a bummer.
- JRJoe Rogan
They just laid there. And people lay next to them and hug them and take pictures with them.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Out your goddamn mind, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
But it's weird to watch.
- BSBrendan Schaub
You don't let your kids and wife do that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Fuck that.
- BCBryan Callen
No, me neither.
- BSBrendan Schaub
No, me neither.
- JRJoe Rogan
Fuck that.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Remember the lion's like, "Oh, fuck. I feel better." (growling)
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, the- the woman got ... We were there. We didn't know what it was until we got there. I- I got super depressed like immediately, but when we were there, the- the oldest we got to was like a nine-month cat, and that cat does not seem like it's drugged up at all. They're young.
- 45:16 – 53:21
Elephants in Africa: coexistence, culling debates, and trophy-hunting economics
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You realize, like, one of the things I was thinking, I was like, imagine if you had one of these that lived in your yard. You would have no yard.
- BCBryan Callen
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
And this is the problem that people have in Africa.
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay? The, the, I'm a giant fan-
- BSBrendan Schaub
(laughs) In Africa.
- JRJoe Rogan
... of elephants, but if you're a poor farmer, and you live in this-
- BCBryan Callen
Wipe out your crop.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. The-
- BCBryan Callen
12 elephants, I mean, what are you gonna do?
- JRJoe Rogan
... they just come right through your crops.
- BCBryan Callen
Okay, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
You can't do anything about it. You're starving. You have children.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Imagine you.
- BSBrendan Schaub
I know.
- JRJoe Rogan
You have your, your little boy.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And your little boy's gonna go hungry now 'cause these elephants just wanna eat whatever the fuck... They don't understand that you grew this.
- BSBrendan Schaub
They're killing the elephant. We're going elephant hunting.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well-
- BSBrendan Schaub
I love an elephant.
- JRJoe Rogan
... this is, well, this is the argument-
- BSBrendan Schaub
I love my little one.
- JRJoe Rogan
... for controlling some of the popu... See, 'cause we always think, we, we say, "Oh, elephants are endangered." Well, they definitely are in some places, but in other places, in certain areas-
- BCBryan Callen
They have to cull 'em.
- JRJoe Rogan
... they have large populations. You gotta realize how big Africa is.
- BCBryan Callen
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean, if you ever see, like, the map where they take America-
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- JRJoe Rogan
Yo, here's the thing about China.
- BCBryan Callen
Because we did-
- JRJoe Rogan
We had to stop in in China. They have a different sense of personal space, like as far as like getting in between you in a line.
- BCBryan Callen
Oh, they don't give a fuck.
- JRJoe Rogan
You walking through a thing and then there's like a merging thing. There's no merging, son. They're gonna go right into your-
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... kids, right into you, your wife, like whoever.
- BCBryan Callen
That's why they drive like that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, it is-
- BCBryan Callen
It's fucking crazy.
- BSBrendan Schaub
He has to recognize racism.
- JRJoe Rogan
But they're not, they're not rude. It's just a different way of-
- BCBryan Callen
Because there's so many people.
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly.
- BCBryan Callen
They have to figure it out.
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly. And-
- BCBryan Callen
There's a billion million people.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're not, they're not, uh, impolite people but they get misconstrued as being impolite 'cause we're not used to that, navigating that kind of numbers like they are.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's crazy to see though, man. Watch 'em, even if you're just watching them do it with other people, just walk right in front of people and smush into each other if-
- BCBryan Callen
If you, if you do that here though-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BCBryan Callen
... you'd be like, "What the fuck, man?"
- JRJoe Rogan
People are gonna get mad at you.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Yeah.
- BCBryan Callen
Well, 'cause I, when I went to Australia a lot of, uh, Chinese and Japanese and Koreans were on holiday in Australia and I was with Chen who's Korean, my producer, and they kept, they were super... We'd be in line, they'd bump into me or something and I'm like, "Dude, what the fuck?" And he's like, "No, no, no, no, no, they're not being disrespectful." It's literally just how, that's how they, that's how they grew up. They just got used to-
- JRJoe Rogan
They had to figure it out.
- BCBryan Callen
... the stupid numbers of people where you get used to people bumping into each other. They don't move outta your way. India's a little bit similar. There's none of that shit.
- BSBrendan Schaub
Mm-hmm.
- BCBryan Callen
Yeah, India's kind of similar where people- They don't blink with blinkers. Yeah. ... are stacked behind you really closely.
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