JRE MMA Show #43 with Brendan Schaub

1. 0:00 – 1:54

   MSG without a headliner: Jones rumors, Diaz–Poirier as a fallback

   1. BSBrendan Schaub0:00

      Still no main event for Madison Square Garden.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      I know. Four, three, two, one.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub0:07

      (sighs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      Booyah. Yeah, no main event for Madison Square Garden so far. The rumors were Jon Jones and Gustafsson, but I don't know.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub0:15

      I don't know.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      I don't know why that hasn't materialized.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub0:18

      Are they just waiting to announce it till after the whole Conor-Khabib thing?

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      Why would they do that? I think if they announce something, it's gotta be this weekend. I mean, we're ... What is it, November 3rd or something?

   9. BSBrendan Schaub0:28

      It's soon.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       So it's a month.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub0:29

       It's super soon. Month-

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Literally a month. Today's the 3rd, right? 2nd? Today's the 2nd.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub0:34

       Today's the 2nd.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Yeah. Fuck, man. That ain't good.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub0:39

       I th- ... Yeah. Maybe they just don't wanna steal any shine from the Conor-Khabib fight.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       (sighs) I don't think so.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub0:45

       I don't know, man.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       I think they just don't have a card yet.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub0:47

       I think they, they were banking on Jones to-

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       Right.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub0:50

       ... fill that main event, but it's been tricky to fill that slot. But also, why not have ... If, if you're gonna do this, why not announce Nate Diaz, Dustin Poirier as your main event? That's a great main event. I can ride with that.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       Who's gonna be the main event though?

   23. BSBrendan Schaub1:03

       Why not do that and then advent ... then announce Jon Jones and Gustafsson or Jon Jones and Cain if you want to?

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       But the main event is to be announced versus to be determined.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub1:12

       (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:12

       (laughs) That's the weirdest main event I've ever seen. I've never seen a fucking pay-per-view, um, a month out that says, "To be announced," versus, "To be determined," in the main event.

   27. NANarrator1:22

       Does that mean they have somebody booked and then they're not an opponent for them and they're not even announcing it?

   28. BSBrendan Schaub1:27

       Ooh.

   29. NANarrator1:27

       Or they just, like, decided to just be funny and write both versions?

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:30

       That's a very good point, James.
2. 1:54 – 2:40

   UFC 230 undercard talk + Mousasi’s exit from UFC to Bellator

   1. BSBrendan Schaub1:54

      This card's actually better than this weekend's card.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:57

      Stylebender's fighting Derek Brunson. That's the sleeper.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub2:00

      That's a great fight.

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:00

      That's the sleeper on that card right there.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub2:02

      We got Luke Rockhold/Chris Weidman too.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:04

      Ooh, that's a good fight too.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub2:06

      Jacare/David Branch ain't f-

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:08

      I forgot about that.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub2:08

      ... ain't terrible either. Where is Rockhold/Weidman on there? The ... The bottom middle.

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:12

       What?

   11. NANarrator2:13

       They're not, they're not in order yet.

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:15

       Oh.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub2:15

       No.

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:15

       What? What are they doing?

   15. BSBrendan Schaub2:16

       This thing's all over the place.

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:17

       Is it like a puzzle?

   17. NANarrator2:19

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:19

       (laughs)

   19. BSBrendan Schaub2:19

       The guy who runs the UFC website took the month off.

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:22

       Rockhold versus Weidman, very interesting. That ... Listen, Gegard Mousasi was the ... That guy is the fucking sleeper of the 185 pound division. The fact that he went over to Bellator, very fucking fascinating to me. He just wrecked Rory MacDonald.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub2:38

       Completely wrecked him.

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:39

       Rory-

   23. BSBrendan Schaub2:39

       It was tough to watch.

3. 2:40 – 2:59

   Bellator’s Rory MacDonald problem and the realities of size at 185

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:40

      Rory should not be fighting at 185 pounds.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub2:42

      No.

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:43

      Especially against a guy who's fought at 205. He's held titles at 205.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub2:46

      Agree, and especially a guy in Gegard Mousasi who's just as talented, just as skilled. So when, when you go-

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:52

      Might be better.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub2:53

      Might be better in some other aspects-

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:54

      Yeah.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub2:54

      ... then when you go skill for skill, then size comes into play. And you saw how that pans out. It was-

4. 2:59 – 9:29

   From fighter talk to comic-book culture war: Batman, superheroes, and reboots

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:59

      Bert Kreischer says Mousasi has a giant dick.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub3:02

      How would he know?

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:02

      He was in the sauna next to him.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub3:04

      Oh, that makes sense though. You know what?

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:06

      He's a giant dog.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub3:06

      Mousasi has that big dick energy.

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:08

      (laughs)

   8. BSBrendan Schaub3:09

      He ... Like, he, he just carries himself like a straight badass, doesn't he?

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:13

      He does.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub3:14

       Like, nothing really gets him going. You know why? Because he has a giant dick.

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:17

       Giant dick.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub3:18

       You know what, Bert's, Bert's probably right on this.

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:20

       Makes sense.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub3:21

       God, this makes sense.

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:22

       (laughs)

   16. BSBrendan Schaub3:23

       You're brilliant, Bert Kreischer.

   17. NANarrator3:25

       (laughs) Well, he saw it. I mean, it's, uh, not even like you figured it out. I mean, he, he's got, like, eyewitness.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub3:30

       (laughs) He's seen that thing.

   19. NANarrator3:32

       He was there. He was in the room.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub3:33

       That ... Uh, nothing's ever made more sense than that.

   21. NANarrator3:35

       He's a hot seat-er box with a big old sweaty dick.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub3:38

       Dude, that Gegard/Amsterdam dick.

   23. NANarrator3:41

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:41

       (laughs)

   25. BSBrendan Schaub3:42

       Everyone's like, "How come he doesn't get more emotional?"

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:44

       (laughs)

   27. BSBrendan Schaub3:44

       Because he has the fattest dick in the world.

   28. NANarrator3:46

       He swore it was bigger than his fucking water bottle.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub3:49

       I believe that.

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:49

       I go, "Fatter?" (laughs) "Fatter than your water bottle?"
5. 9:29 – 13:36

   Venom, Spider-Man fatigue, and Chris Pratt as a surprising outdoorsman

   1. BSBrendan Schaub9:29

      Venom drops this weekend.

   2. JRJoe Rogan9:30

      Yeah, Tom Hardy?

   3. BSBrendan Schaub9:31

      I ... You know what? Maybe I'm just a Debbie Downer, but I don't-

   4. NANarrator9:35

      Hmm?

   5. BSBrendan Schaub9:35

      ... I don't know. It looks all right to me.

   6. NANarrator9:37

      Hmm? Hmm?

   7. BSBrendan Schaub9:37

      And I love ... I know, I love, uh, Tom Hardy too.

   8. JRJoe Rogan9:40

      What? Venom is like an evil Spider-Man? Like, what is that?

   9. BSBrendan Schaub9:43

      He's like Spider-Man's alien.

   10. JRJoe Rogan9:46

       It's an alien?

   11. BSBrendan Schaub9:47

       Yeah, he's, he's ... It's an alien element that grabs someone's body.

   12. NANarrator9:50

       It's an alien that merges with his body.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub9:52

       Yeah, and he's evil.

   14. JRJoe Rogan9:53

       (sighs)

   15. BSBrendan Schaub9:54

       I don't know, dude.

   16. JRJoe Rogan9:55

       Fucking kids today.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub9:56

       I know. I know, man. I know.

   18. JRJoe Rogan9:59

       I mean, I guess it's better than remaking The Hulk for the 98th time.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub10:04

       I'll take it.

   20. JRJoe Rogan10:05

       I mean, how many Spider-Mans are there now? There's like 80 Spider-Mans? Whenever Spider-Man starts making some money, they go like, "Nah, player. We got a new one."

   21. BSBrendan Schaub10:11

       We need a new one, bro. We got a new one.

   22. JRJoe Rogan10:13

       (laughs)

   23. BSBrendan Schaub10:13

       Tobey Maguire's my Spider-Man.

   24. JRJoe Rogan10:15

       Yeah, that's-

   25. BSBrendan Schaub10:15

       If your Spider-Man's anyone else, fuck you.

   26. JRJoe Rogan10:17

       Yeah, fuck you.

   27. BSBrendan Schaub10:18

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan10:18

       That's the real Spider-Man.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub10:19

       Hell yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan10:20

       It's like ... (laughs)
6. 13:36 – 22:17

   Theme parks and ‘food vice’: Universal rides, Disneyland parenting, and Chicago deep dish

   1. BSBrendan Schaub13:36

      They're re- Do you, you know they're redoing the, uh, Jurassic Park ride at Universal?

   2. JRJoe Rogan13:40

      They're redoing it?

   3. BSBrendan Schaub13:40

      Yeah, they should. It's wack as fuck.

   4. JRJoe Rogan13:42

      (laughs)

   5. BSBrendan Schaub13:42

      Yeah, now it's just that T-Rex like (imitates ride creaking) .

   6. JRJoe Rogan13:44

      Terrible.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub13:44

      No, the guy was talk... I heard the interview, the guy's like, "No, we're redoing it with all the new dinosaurs, everything."

   8. JRJoe Rogan13:49

      Yeah, there's some good shit at Universal and then there's some stuff that you're like, "What?"

   9. BSBrendan Schaub13:54

      Old school.

   10. JRJoe Rogan13:55

       Well, you know what's badass? The Harry Potter ride. Have you taken little man to the Harry Potter ride?

   11. BSBrendan Schaub13:59

       No, he's not big enough still.

   12. JRJoe Rogan14:00

       Oh.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub14:00

       He's only two and a half.

   14. JRJoe Rogan14:01

       That's right. I think you have to be like 40 inches or some shit. But the Jurassic, their Jurassic Park ride's wack. You know what's great? The Simpsons.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub14:09

       Simpsons is dope. I've done Simpsons.

   16. JRJoe Rogan14:10

       It's hilarious.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub14:11

       Simpsons is great.

   18. JRJoe Rogan14:12

       That's a great ride.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub14:13

       Dude, I, as a grown-ass man, just, I got a babysitter for my kid, and me and my girl went to Six Flags.

   20. JRJoe Rogan14:18

       Oh, dude, Six Flags is badass.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub14:20

       So much fun.

   22. JRJoe Rogan14:21

       You know what's surprisingly good? Knott's Berry Farms.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub14:24

       Mm. It, uh, it's very old school, a little vintage.

   24. JRJoe Rogan14:27

       Some of the fucking rides are amazing.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub14:30

       Th- to me, they're a little-

   26. JRJoe Rogan14:31

       What'd you go?

   27. BSBrendan Schaub14:31

       ... they're a little suspect. Like a year ago, like the, the-

   28. JRJoe Rogan14:33

       Suspect like they might break?

   29. BSBrendan Schaub14:34

       Yeah, like, like-

   30. NANarrator14:36

       (laughs)
7. 22:17 – 24:30

   Cities, race, and why prejudice makes no sense (evolution + social dynamics)

   1. BSBrendan Schaub22:17

      Now, on the other end of that, I was just in, uh, Seattle, Washington, and the crowd was all white.

   2. JRJoe Rogan22:22

      White. That is-

   3. BSBrendan Schaub22:23

      All white.

   4. JRJoe Rogan22:24

      That is the white capital.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub22:24

      I was the darkest dude in the, in the building.

   6. JRJoe Rogan22:26

      Yeah, them and Portland, they're white as fuck. Even if you're Black, after a few generations, you just turn white.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub22:32

      And you start talking white.

   8. JRJoe Rogan22:33

      If your- if you bring your family up there and you- you plan on k- you know, staking out a Black existence in Portland-

   9. BSBrendan Schaub22:39

      Good luck.

   10. JRJoe Rogan22:40

       ... good luck. If... Even if your- your- your kids only date other Black kids-

   11. BSBrendan Schaub22:44

       (laughs) Test it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan22:44

       ... after, like, 100 years, everyone's gonna be white.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub22:46

       Everyone. (coughs) Just everybody.

   14. JRJoe Rogan22:48

       There's no sun.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub22:49

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan22:49

       There's no sun. That sun for three months a year... Look, there's a reason why people became white. I mean, everyone really comes from Africa.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub22:55

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan22:56

       It's one of the real reasons why racism is so stupid. Every single fucking human being came from Africa, just like every single fucking dog came from a wolf. Every person started out as an African, it's just as we moved to shittier and shittier places with less and less sun, your body adapted. And y- basically, white skin is like a- a big old solar panel for vitamin B, or vitamin D rather.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub23:20

       Do you... I don't... And obviously we don't... I don't know anyone who is racist these days though.

   20. JRJoe Rogan23:25

       There's a few.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub23:25

       They're- they're out there, for sure.

   22. JRJoe Rogan23:26

       You can find them.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub23:26

       But I don't- I don't- I don't have anyone that I even, you know-

   24. JRJoe Rogan23:31

       Associate with.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub23:32

       Not even.

   26. JRJoe Rogan23:32

       No.

   27. BSBrendan Schaub23:32

       But even, like, jokingly or, like, "I don't like Asians," or, "I don't like Black people."

   28. JRJoe Rogan23:36

       Ugh.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub23:36

       I don't...

   30. JRJoe Rogan23:37

       That is exhausting.
8. 24:30 – 34:10

   MeToo, Louis C.K., and the idea of redemption vs permanent exile

   1. JRJoe Rogan24:30

      It's like today, a-... with all this Me Too stuff, um, it seems like it's okay to be sexist against men-

   2. BSBrendan Schaub24:37

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan24:37

      ... um, because there are awful men out there. But there's also men that are nice and they're gonna be nice to you.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub24:44

      There's also some awful women out there who-

   5. JRJoe Rogan24:46

      100%.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub24:46

      ... do have other agendas when they come out with these Me Too claims.

   7. JRJoe Rogan24:49

      Go ahead. That's-

   8. BSBrendan Schaub24:50

      There's a lot of that.

   9. JRJoe Rogan24:50

      ... what you're seeing. I mean, we're seeing these cases now, you know? And we're seeing these cases get exposed for what they are, you know? And it, it's, it, it... The problem is that it casts doubt on legitimate cases. What is going on with my throat? (clears throat) Something about these goddamn caveman coffees.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub25:07

       Really?

   11. JRJoe Rogan25:08

       (coughs) Early in the morning.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub25:10

       That makes me think.

   13. JRJoe Rogan25:11

       (clears throat)

   14. BSBrendan Schaub25:11

       I'm good though.

   15. JRJoe Rogan25:12

       Mm.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub25:12

       Sometimes it's dairy.

   17. JRJoe Rogan25:13

       I know, you think, you think you have to cough-

   18. BSBrendan Schaub25:14

       Or I'm like, "Damn, is something not right."

   19. JRJoe Rogan25:15

       Yeah.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub25:15

       Did you think, uh, if you were in Louis C.K.'s shoes, do you think he came back too soon?

   21. JRJoe Rogan25:20

       I don't think it's that he came back too soon. What I honestly think is he should say something more than what he already said.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub25:30

       (clears throat)

   23. JRJoe Rogan25:30

       (laughs)

   24. BSBrendan Schaub25:30

       Not just show up like it's all good and like, "All right."

   25. JRJoe Rogan25:32

       Yeah. There's not just... I mean, we're seeing these cases now. You know, we're seeing these cases get exposed for what they are, you know? And it, it's, it, it... The problem is that it casts doubt on legitimate cases. What is going on with my throat? (clears throat) Something about these goddamn caveman coffees.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub25:33

       Really?

   27. JRJoe Rogan25:33

       (coughs) Early in the morning.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub25:33

       That makes me think.

   29. JRJoe Rogan25:33

       (clears throat)

   30. BSBrendan Schaub25:33

       I'm good though.
9. 34:10 – 44:04

   Standup craft: Rogan’s special release, editing obsession, and performer insecurity

   1. JRJoe Rogan34:10

      (laughs) Mm. Um- Dude, how excited are you about your, your special being dropped today? Nervous at all?

   2. BSBrendan Schaub34:16

      I was nervous before, yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan34:17

      Are you nervous about it?

   4. BSBrendan Schaub34:18

      Um, yeah, I mean I care. 'Cause it's a body of work you've been doing forever.

   5. JRJoe Rogan34:21

      Cared about it. I worked on it for two-

   6. BSBrendan Schaub34:23

      Fuck yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan34:23

      ... fucking years, you know? But-

   8. BSBrendan Schaub34:24

      And you edited it yourself.

   9. JRJoe Rogan34:26

      Re- reviews are awesome. Came out great.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub34:27

       I heard it's great.

   11. JRJoe Rogan34:28

       I'm excited. You know, it's ... The best ... I think the best one I've ever done. I really do. I think the last one w- I think Triggered was the best one and I think this one's better than that.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub34:36

       That's how it should go, right?

   13. JRJoe Rogan34:37

       Yeah, I mean, that's how it should go. Just keep working, keep, keep, uh, trying to refine it and keep ... and, uh, you know, raise my standards. I learned some stuff. Still, out of all these years doing standup, I'm still learning. I learned some stuff in the editing process.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub34:51

       Really?

   15. JRJoe Rogan34:52

       Yeah. Well, I learned some stuff just watching. I think I r- I re- I listen to recordings all the time, um, but I think I'm gonna step my game up now. And after talking to Bert Kreischer yesterday, Bert, uh, he records audio and he also records video. And I think I'm going to start recording video of all my shows too now.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub35:09

       It's tou- Well, uh, yeah, because when you're doing these giant theaters, so there's not video. 'Cause like-

   17. JRJoe Rogan35:14

       Mm-hmm.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub35:14

       ... when I was at Parlor or wherever I go, they usually have video capability so I get all the video.

   19. JRJoe Rogan35:18

       That's nice.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub35:19

       Always get the video.

   21. JRJoe Rogan35:20

       Well, the Icehouse can do that for me.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub35:21

       That's true.

   23. JRJoe Rogan35:22

       And, you know, I can, I could definitely get someone to do that for me at the store. But I just think it's critical to see the way you move as well as hear. Like, you gotta analyze all that shit and try to figure out what ... You gotta be natural and in the moment, but you also gotta analyze all the particulars and find out, like, what ... Like, I w- I would watch, like, two or three different sets, 'cause I film four shows, and I was like, "Why did I not ... Why didn't I do that in the second show? Huh."

   24. BSBrendan Schaub35:47

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan35:47

       Like, "The way I did it there, that's the way to do it."

   26. BSBrendan Schaub35:49

       Yep.

   27. JRJoe Rogan35:49

       "But I did it differently in this other show."

   28. BSBrendan Schaub35:52

       I think the shitty part's watching yourself and listening to yourself.

   29. JRJoe Rogan35:54

       Ugh.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub35:55

       That takes a real type of asshole to do that.
10. 44:04 – 52:41

    Conor vs Khabib: PPV expectations, promotion strategy, and stylistic nightmare matchup

    1. JRJoe Rogan44:04

       Conor McGregor versus Khabib this weekend. (laughs)

    2. BSBrendan Schaub44:06

       Anyways, Conor McGregor, yeah.

    3. NANarrator44:06

       (laughs)

    4. BSBrendan Schaub44:06

       Well, it's a good transition. Uh, I, I'll tell you this-

    5. JRJoe Rogan44:08

       This weekend, boys.

    6. BSBrendan Schaub44:09

       I'll tell you this, dude. I'll tell you this. I'm not being a hater. I'm not being, uh, some sort of Debbie Downer. I don't think it breaks two million pay-per-view buys.

    7. JRJoe Rogan44:18

       You might be right, but-

    8. BSBrendan Schaub44:18

       I'm not, I'm not, I'm not seeing it, man. Like when Conor fought Florida- Floyd or when Conor, uh, Nate Diaz 2, I couldn't go anywhere without hearing about it.

    9. JRJoe Rogan44:26

       Starbucks, you name... Anywhere. Shoe store, where... Car dealer. Everyone went, "Dude, Conor-Floyd, who you got, man?" Everybody and their mom. Now, very rare. Well-

    10. BSBrendan Schaub44:37

        Maybe at one of my shows someone will bring it up, but...

    11. JRJoe Rogan44:39

        There's something that Conor didn't want to do for this fight, and that's massive promotion.

    12. BSBrendan Schaub44:43

        Y- but did... So does that mean it's not as big? Like, who's that following? Is that Conor or the UFC? Or-

    13. JRJoe Rogan44:48

        Conor.

    14. BSBrendan Schaub44:48

        It's both.

    15. JRJoe Rogan44:49

        He doesn't want to do it. Well, the, the UFC has a model, right? And it worked in the Jose Aldo fight. That model is you just promote the holy fuck out of a fight. You travel the world, you promote the shit out of it. You scream at each other at press conferences. You do all that stuff for months and months and months, and those things sell like crazy.

    16. BSBrendan Schaub45:07

        If it's Conor McGregor.

    17. JRJoe Rogan45:08

        If it's Conor McGregor.

    18. BSBrendan Schaub45:09

        So, the-

    19. JRJoe Rogan45:09

        But who have they ever done it with besides Conor McGregor like that?

    20. BSBrendan Schaub45:13

        (sighs) No one really sells like that. They, you know, a little bit with Ronda, I guess, but she didn't have the same kind of chops as Conor. So Conor is the only one, but you know, I, I don't know. Maybe it's 'cause he had a layoff, maybe it's after the Floyd thing. I think it does well. I don't think it breaks, uh, uh, Conor verse Nate 2.

    21. JRJoe Rogan45:30

        Well-

    22. BSBrendan Schaub45:30

        I don't, I don't think it breaks 1.6 million.

    23. JRJoe Rogan45:32

        What I think happened was Conor made a hundred fucking million dollars and he was like, "Yeah, um, I'm just gonna train."

    24. BSBrendan Schaub45:39

        You know what I think? I think there's that, and then it also goes, "I'm not... That took so much energy to do all that."

    25. JRJoe Rogan45:46

        Mm-hmm.

    26. BSBrendan Schaub45:46

        "And, and everyone knows me as that guy. I have the toughest fight of my life coming up. I'm taking every precaution necessary not to overtrain-"

    27. JRJoe Rogan45:54

        Yep.

    28. BSBrendan Schaub45:54

        "... not to use all my energy. This... I'm in the fight of my life and I'm gonna train like it."

    29. JRJoe Rogan45:58

        (sniffs) .

    30. BSBrendan Schaub45:58

        "I'm shutting down everything. You can post the fucking, me throwing the dolly through the window 1,000 times. I'll do the press conference on Thursday. Other than that, man, I have got to get ready for the fight of my life."
11. 52:41 – 59:26

    UFC 229 undercard and the broader ‘weight cutting is the sport’s biggest problem’ debate

    1. JRJoe Rogan52:41

       (laughs) Pull up that card. Let me see the rest of the card.

    2. BSBrendan Schaub52:44

       Dude, if you're Tony Ferguson, it's like, "Oh, yeah, and Tony's fighting."

    3. JRJoe Rogan52:47

       Right.

    4. BSBrendan Schaub52:48

       It's-

    5. JRJoe Rogan52:48

       I know. And he's fighting Pettis.

    6. BSBrendan Schaub52:50

       It's not an easy fight for a comeback-

    7. JRJoe Rogan52:51

       Very. No.

    8. BSBrendan Schaub52:51

       ... fight for Tony.

    9. JRJoe Rogan52:52

       I mean, I'm just amazed that he's able to fight again so quickly after knee surgery.

    10. BSBrendan Schaub52:57

        You know what's interesting to me is I, I asked Josh Thomson, who knows Khabib and obviously you can talk to DC about it, but they ... I go, "Dude, Tony's back. Like, if Khabib were to win, he would fight Tony, right?" And he goes, "No interest. Doe- that fight does nothing to him mentally. He just doesn't care about it." I'm like, "Oh."

    11. JRJoe Rogan53:12

        Khabib just doesn't care?

    12. BSBrendan Schaub53:13

        Yeah, he's like, "Not with Tony."

    13. JRJoe Rogan53:14

        So he really just wants to fight Conor and then get out.

    14. BSBrendan Schaub53:17

        Get out, wins the beat-

    15. JRJoe Rogan53:18

        Or fight GSP.

    16. BSBrendan Schaub53:19

        Th- from, from ... This is from Josh Thomson's mouth from Khabib, he wants to beat the UFC's poster boy, Dana's poster boy, and walk the fuck out.

    17. JRJoe Rogan53:27

        (laughs)

    18. BSBrendan Schaub53:27

        Unless they give him a super fight.

    19. JRJoe Rogan53:29

        Who the fuck has ever been 26 and 0 as a champion?

    20. BSBrendan Schaub53:33

        Now-

    21. JRJoe Rogan53:33

        I think that's the only one.

    22. BSBrendan Schaub53:35

        Yeah, but 26 and 0, for sure, he's fucking fighting Dagestani.

    23. JRJoe Rogan53:37

        Who else has been an undefeated champion?

    24. BSBrendan Schaub53:40

        Undefeated champion? Well, Con-

    25. JRJoe Rogan53:41

        Jon Jones.

    26. BSBrendan Schaub53:41

        Conor was undefeated.

    27. JRJoe Rogan53:42

        But Jon Jones, did he fight-

    28. BSBrendan Schaub53:44

        Well, no, he didn't.

    29. JRJoe Rogan53:44

        ... Matt Hamill before he won the title?

    30. BSBrendan Schaub53:46

        Yeah.
12. 59:26 – 1:24:21

    USADA, ‘snitching’ clauses, and Jon Jones’ tainted-supplement debate

    1. JRJoe Rogan59:26

       You know, interesting, Werdum just released a statement saying that USADA asked him to snitch.

    2. BSBrendan Schaub59:31

       I know. What's going on with the snitching stuff?

    3. JRJoe Rogan59:33

       I don't know. They offered him, uh, a lean, more lenient sentence if he was willing to snitch, and he goes, "Fuck you."

    4. BSBrendan Schaub59:40

       I love Werdum.

    5. JRJoe Rogan59:41

       I love that, too.

    6. BSBrendan Schaub59:41

       And Jon, and then I guess Jon was like, "Cool." (laughs)

    7. JRJoe Rogan59:44

       (laughs) I don't know if Jon's cool.

    8. BSBrendan Schaub59:45

       I don't either.

    9. JRJoe Rogan59:46

       I-

    10. BSBrendan Schaub59:46

        But that's what they're saying. I don't either.

    11. JRJoe Rogan59:47

        I didn't hear that Jon snitched. Did you hear Jon snitch?

    12. BSBrendan Schaub59:49

        That's, that's, that's what the statement says.

    13. JRJoe Rogan59:52

        But Jon's manager says that he didn't sn- what statement from who?

    14. BSBrendan Schaub59:55

        The statement from-

    15. JRJoe Rogan59:56

        Did you just give a hypocrite look? (laughs)

    16. BSBrendan Schaub59:56

        (laughs) Come on, bro. His manager?

    17. JRJoe Rogan59:58

        Can you just give a skeptical hippo face?

    18. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:00

        Dude. See, but no, I'm not saying Jon did.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

        (laughs)

    20. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:03

        Let's be very clear. All I'm saying is he came out with that statement and then, uh, Malkin goes, "He didn't snitch." And then, uh-

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:10

        Everybody's like, "Wait, what?" (laughs)

    22. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:11

        ... and Novitskiy... Novitskiy was like, "No, you said you were gonna give us some info to help us out down the road with other people." So, you know, I don't...

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:19

        What?

    24. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:20

        Yeah. The... USADA had to release an official statement when... Hold on.

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:23

        Wait a minute.

    26. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:24

        Because Malkin came out and was like, "No, we never agreed and said we were gonna snitch." And then USADA's like, "Well, well no, remember? Remember the contract you signed? Here's this section of the contract."

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:00:33

        He s- they said they would help them out in the future with other people.

    28. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:38

        I mean, but bring it up, Jamie, before I'm just-

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:00:40

        Man, Jon Jones, world champion walking around wearing a wire.

    30. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:43

        (laughs)

Episode duration: 2:14:02