JRE MMA Show #43 with Brendan Schaub

1. 0:00 – 1:54

   UFC 230 at MSG: why the main event is still “TBA vs TBD”

   1. BSBrendan Schaub0:00

      Still no main event for Madison Square Garden.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      I know. Four, three, two, one.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub0:07

      (sighs) (hands clap)

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      Booyah. Yeah, no main event for Madison Square Garden so far. The rumors were Jon Jones and Gustafsson, but I don't know.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub0:15

      I don't know.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      I don't know why that hasn't materialized.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub0:18

      Are they just waiting to announce it till after the whole Conor-Khabib thing?

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      Why would they do that? I think if they announce something, it's gotta be this weekend. I mean, we're ... What is it, November 3rd or something?

   9. BSBrendan Schaub0:28

      It's soon.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       So it's a month.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub0:30

       It's super soon. Month.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Literally a month. Today's the 3rd, right? 2nd? Today's the 2nd.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub0:35

       Today's the 2nd.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Yeah. Fuck, man. That ain't good.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub0:39

       I th- ... Yeah. Maybe they just don't wanna steal any shine from the Conor-Khabib fight.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       (sighs) I don't think so.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub0:45

       I don't know, man.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       I think they just don't have a card yet.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub0:47

       I think they, they were banking on Jones to-

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       Right.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub0:50

       ... fill that main event, but it, it's been tricky to fill that slot. But also, why not have ... If, if, if you're gonna do this, why not announce Nate Diaz, Dustin Poirier as your main event? That's a great main event. I can ride with that.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       But why the main event though?

   23. BSBrendan Schaub1:03

       Why not do that and then advent- ... then announce Jon Jones and Gustafsson or Jon Jones and Cain if you want to?

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       But the main event is to be announced versus to be determined.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub1:12

       (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:12

       (laughs) That's the weirdest main event I've ever seen.

   27. BSBrendan Schaub1:15

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:15

       I've never seen a fucking pay-per-view, um, a month out that says, "To be announced," versus, "To be determined," in the main event.

   29. JVJamie Vernon1:22

       Does that mean they have somebody booked and then they're not an opponent for them and they're not even announcing it?

   30. BSBrendan Schaub1:27

       Ooh.
2. 1:54 – 2:22

   Evaluating the rest of the MSG lineup (Stylebender–Brunson, Rockhold–Weidman, Jacaré–Branch)

   1. BSBrendan Schaub1:54

      This card's actually better than this weekend's card.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:57

      Stylebender's fighting Derek Brunson. That's the sleeper.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub2:00

      That's a great fight.

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:00

      That's the sleeper on that card right there.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub2:02

      We got Luke Rockhold/Chris Weidman too.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:04

      Ooh, that's a good fight too.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub2:07

      Jaquaré David Branch ain't f-

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:08

      I forgot about that.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub2:08

      ... ain't t- ... Where is Rockhold/Weidman on there?

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:11

       ... terrible either.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub2:11

       They're at the bottom middle.

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:12

       What?

   13. JVJamie Vernon2:13

       They're not, they're not in order yet.

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:15

       Oh.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub2:15

       No.

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:15

       What? What are they doing?

   17. BSBrendan Schaub2:16

       This thing's all over the place.

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:17

       Is it a puzzle? (laughs)

   19. JVJamie Vernon2:19

       (laughs)

   20. BSBrendan Schaub2:19

       The guy who runs the UFC website took the month off.

3. 2:22 – 2:59

   Gegard Mousasi’s dominance, Rory at 185, and Bellator’s tournament complications

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:22

      Rockhold versus Weidman, very interesting. That ... Listen, Gegard Mousasi was the ... That guy is the fucking sleeper of the 185-pound division. The fact that he went over to Bellator, very fucking fascinating to me. He just wrecked Rory MacDonald.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub2:38

      Completely wrecked him.

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:39

      Rory-

   4. BSBrendan Schaub2:39

      It was tough to watch.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:40

      Rory should not be fighting at 185 pounds.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub2:42

      No.

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:43

      Especially against a guy who's fought at 205. He's held titles at 205.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub2:46

      Agree, and especially a guy in Gegard Mousasi who's just as talented, just as skilled. So when, when you go s-

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:52

      Might be better.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub2:53

       Might be better in some other aspects.

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:54

       Yeah.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub2:54

       Then when you go skill for skill, then size comes into play. And you saw how that pans out. It was-

4. 2:59 – 9:29

   Comic-book detour: ‘Batman’s penis,’ superhero reboots, and pop-culture fatigue

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:59

      Bert Kreischer says Mousasi has a giant dick.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub3:02

      How would he know?

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:02

      He was in the sauna next to him.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub3:04

      Oh, that makes sense though. You know what?

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:06

      He's a giant hog.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub3:06

      Mousasi has that big dick energy.

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:08

      (laughs)

   8. JVJamie Vernon3:08

      (laughs)

   9. BSBrendan Schaub3:09

      He ... Like, he, he just carries himself like a straight badass, doesn't he?

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:13

       He does.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub3:14

       Like, he ... Nothing really gets him going. Y- you know why? Because he has a giant dick.

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:17

       Giant dick.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub3:18

       You know what? Bert's, Bert's probably right on this.

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:20

       Makes sense.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub3:21

       God, this makes sense.

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:23

       (laughs)

   17. JVJamie Vernon3:23

       (laughs)

   18. BSBrendan Schaub3:23

       You're brilliant, Bert Kreischer.

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:25

       Well, he saw it. I mean, it's not, not even like you figured it out. I mean, he, he's got, like, eyewitness.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub3:30

       (laughs) He's seen that thing.

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:32

       He was there. He was in the room.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub3:33

       That ... Uh, nothing's ever made more sense than that.

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:35

       He's a hot seat or box with a big old sweaty dick.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub3:38

       Dude, that Gegard Amsterdam dick.

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:42

       (laughs)

   26. JVJamie Vernon3:42

       (laughs)

   27. BSBrendan Schaub3:42

       Everyone's like, "How come he doesn't get more emotional?"

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:44

       I know.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub3:44

       Because he has the fattest dick in the world.

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:46

       D- d- ... He swore it was bigger than his fucking water bottle.
5. 9:29 – 13:36

   Venom, Spider-Man generations, and Chris Pratt at Comic Con (plus hunting and wrestling)

   1. BSBrendan Schaub9:29

      Venom drops this weekend.

   2. JRJoe Rogan9:30

      Yeah, Tom Hardy?

   3. BSBrendan Schaub9:31

      I ... M- you know what? Maybe I'm just a Debbie Downer, but I don't-

   4. JRJoe Rogan9:35

      Hm?

   5. BSBrendan Schaub9:35

      ... I don't know. It looks all right to me.

   6. JVJamie Vernon9:37

      Oh? Oh?

   7. BSBrendan Schaub9:37

      And I love ... I know, I love, uh, Tom Hardy too.

   8. JRJoe Rogan9:40

      What? Venom is like an evil Spider-Man? Like, what is that?

   9. BSBrendan Schaub9:43

      He's like Spider-Man's alien.

   10. JRJoe Rogan9:46

       It's an alien?

   11. BSBrendan Schaub9:47

       Yeah, he's ... It's an alien element that grabs someone's body.

   12. JVJamie Vernon9:50

       It's a alien that merges with his body.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub9:52

       Yeah, and he's evil.

   14. JRJoe Rogan9:53

       (sighs)

   15. BSBrendan Schaub9:54

       I don't know, dude.

   16. JRJoe Rogan9:55

       Fucking kids today.

   17. JVJamie Vernon9:56

       (sniffs)

   18. BSBrendan Schaub9:56

       I know. I know, man. I know.

   19. JRJoe Rogan9:59

       I mean, I guess it's better than remaking The Hulk for the 98th time.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub10:04

       I'll take it.

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:05

       I mean, how many Spider-Mans are there now? There's like 80 Spider-Mans? Whenever Spider-Man starts making some money, they go like, "Nah, player."

   22. BSBrendan Schaub10:11

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan10:11

       "We got a new one."

   24. BSBrendan Schaub10:11

       "We got a new one, bro. We got a new one."

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:13

       (laughs)

   26. BSBrendan Schaub10:13

       Tobey Maguire's my Spider-Man.

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:15

       Yeah, that's-

   28. BSBrendan Schaub10:15

       If your Spider-Man's anyone else, fuck you.

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:17

       Yeah, fuck you.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub10:18

       Yeah.
6. 13:36 – 21:34

   Theme parks, Disney rides, and the economics of ‘cheat days’ (Disneyland to Chicago pizza)

   1. BSBrendan Schaub13:36

      They're re- You, you know they're redoing the Jurassic Park ride at Universal?

   2. JRJoe Rogan13:40

      They're redoing it?

   3. BSBrendan Schaub13:40

      They're do-

   4. JRJoe Rogan13:40

      Yeah, they should it's whack as fuck.

   5. GUGuest13:42

      (laughs)

   6. BSBrendan Schaub13:42

      Yeah, now it's just that T-Rex like (imitates T-Rex)

   7. JRJoe Rogan13:43

      It's terrible.

   8. GUGuest13:44

      (laughs)

   9. BSBrendan Schaub13:44

      No, the guy was talk- I heard an interview, the guy's like, "No, we're redoing it with all the new dinosaurs, everything."

   10. JRJoe Rogan13:49

       Yeah, there's some good shit at Universal and then there's some stuff that you're like, "What?"

   11. BSBrendan Schaub13:54

       Old school.

   12. JRJoe Rogan13:55

       Well, you know what's badass? The Harry Potter ride. Have you taken little man to the Harry Potter ride?

   13. BSBrendan Schaub13:59

       No, he's not big enough still.

   14. JRJoe Rogan14:00

       Oh.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub14:00

       He's only two and a half.

   16. JRJoe Rogan14:01

       That's right. I think you have to be like 40 inches or some shit. But the Jurassic, their Jurassic Park ride is whack. You know what's great? The Simpsons.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub14:09

       Simpsons is dope. I've done Simpsons.

   18. JRJoe Rogan14:10

       It's hilarious.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub14:11

       Simpsons is great.

   20. JRJoe Rogan14:12

       That's a great ride.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub14:13

       Dude, I, as a grown ass man, just I, got a babysitter for my kid and me and my girl went to Six Flags.

   22. JRJoe Rogan14:18

       Oh, dude, Six Flags is badass.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub14:20

       So much fun.

   24. JRJoe Rogan14:21

       You know what's surprisingly good? Knott's Berry Farms.

   25. GUGuest14:24

       Mm.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub14:25

       It, uh, it's very old school, a little vintage.

   27. JRJoe Rogan14:27

       Some of the fucking rides are amazing.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub14:30

       Th- to me they're a little-

   29. JRJoe Rogan14:31

       What'd you go?

   30. BSBrendan Schaub14:31

       ... they're a little suspect. Like a year ago, like the, the, uh-
7. 21:34 – 24:30

   Tour crowds and culture: Chicago & Toronto vs the ‘whitest’ Seattle/Portland

   1. JRJoe Rogan21:34

      It's a great place to perform though.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub21:36

      Yeah, love Chicago.

   3. JRJoe Rogan21:36

      The audiences are amazing.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub21:37

      Amazing.

   5. JRJoe Rogan21:38

      They're f- they're just fun. They're fun people. You know what they are? They're a unique combination of, like, the Midwest and a giant city.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub21:45

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan21:46

      Same as Toronto. Toronto is like that too.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub21:48

      Love Toronto.

   9. JRJoe Rogan21:48

      But it's the same kind of vibe. It's a weird combination of, like, really nice sm- almost small town people that live in a giant urban city.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub21:58

       And Toronto is a melting pot.

   11. JRJoe Rogan21:59

       Yeah.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub21:59

       It is just like... To me, Toronto reminds me of New York, not with the hustle and cleaner.

   13. JRJoe Rogan22:05

       Yeah, way cleaner.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub22:05

       I love Toronto.

   15. JRJoe Rogan22:06

       More polite people too.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub22:07

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan22:07

       And it's-

   18. BSBrendan Schaub22:08

       Way, way nicer.

   19. JRJoe Rogan22:08

       You know, you get Indian people, Pakistani, Black, Asian, white, European, I mean, you get everybody in Toronto.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub22:17

       Now, on the other end of that, I was just in, uh, Seattle, Washington, and the crowd was all white.

   21. JRJoe Rogan22:23

       White.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub22:23

       All white.

   23. JRJoe Rogan22:24

       That is, that is the white capital.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub22:24

       I was the darkest dude in the, in the building.

   25. JRJoe Rogan22:26

       Yeah, them and Portland, they're white as fuck. Even if you're Black, after a few generations, you just turn white.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub22:32

       And you start talking white.

   27. JRJoe Rogan22:33

       If your, if you bring your family up there and you, you plan on k- you know, staking out a Black existence-

   28. BSBrendan Schaub22:39

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan22:39

       ... in Portland-

   30. BSBrendan Schaub22:39

       Good luck.
8. 24:30 – 34:13

   MeToo, public pile-ons, and redemption: Louis C.K., Aziz, Cosby, and Ronaldo allegations

   1. JRJoe Rogan24:30

      It's like today, e-... with all this Me Too stuff, um, it seems like it's okay to be sexist against men-

   2. BSBrendan Schaub24:37

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan24:37

      ... um, because there are awful men out there. But, there's also men that are nice and they're gonna be nice to you.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub24:44

      There's also some awful women out there who-

   5. JRJoe Rogan24:46

      100%.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub24:46

      ... do have other agendas when they come out with these Me Too claims.

   7. JRJoe Rogan24:49

      Go ahead. That's-

   8. BSBrendan Schaub24:50

      There's a lot of that.

   9. JRJoe Rogan24:50

      ... what you're seeing. I mean, we're, we're seeing these cases now, you know? And we're seeing these cases get exposed for what they are, you know? And it, it's, it, it... The problem is that it casts doubt on legitimate cases. What is going on with my throat? (clears throat) Something about these goddamn caveman coffees.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub25:07

       Really?

   11. JRJoe Rogan25:08

       (coughs) Early in the morning.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub25:10

       That makes me think.

   13. JRJoe Rogan25:11

       (clears throat)

   14. BSBrendan Schaub25:11

       I'm good though.

   15. JRJoe Rogan25:12

       Mm.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub25:12

       Sometimes it's dairy.

   17. JRJoe Rogan25:13

       I know, you think, you think you have to-

   18. BSBrendan Schaub25:13

       Well, I'm like, "Damn, something's not right."

   19. JRJoe Rogan25:15

       (clears throat) "I'm good." Yeah, I-

   20. BSBrendan Schaub25:15

       Um, did you think, uh, if you were in Louis C.K.'s shoes, do you think he came back too soon?

   21. JRJoe Rogan25:20

       I don't think it's that he came back too soon. What I honestly think is he should say something more than what he already said. (clears throat)

   22. BSBrendan Schaub25:30

       Not just show up like it's all good and like-

   23. JRJoe Rogan25:31

       Yeah.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub25:31

       ... "All right."

   25. JRJoe Rogan25:31

       There's not just... I mean, we're seeing these cases now, you know? We're seeing these cases get exposed for what they are, you know? And it's, it, it... The problem is that it casts doubt on legitimate cases. What is going on with my throat? (clears throat) Something about these goddamn caveman coffees.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub25:31

       Really?

   27. JRJoe Rogan25:31

       (clears throat) Early in the morning.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub25:31

       That makes me think.

   29. JRJoe Rogan25:31

       (clears throat)

   30. BSBrendan Schaub25:31

       I'm good though.
9. 34:13 – 43:39

   Joe’s new comedy special: nerves, editing lessons, and the pain of watching yourself

   1. BSBrendan Schaub34:13

      Dude, how excited are you about your, your special being dropped today? Nervous at all?

   2. JRJoe Rogan34:16

      I was nervous before, yeah.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub34:17

      Oh, are you nervous about it?

   4. JRJoe Rogan34:18

      Um, yeah, I mean I care-

   5. BSBrendan Schaub34:19

      Because the body of work you've been doing forever.

   6. JRJoe Rogan34:20

      ... cared about it. I worked on it for two-

   7. BSBrendan Schaub34:23

      Fuck yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan34:23

      ... fucking years, you know? But-

   9. BSBrendan Schaub34:24

      And you edited it yourself.

   10. JRJoe Rogan34:26

       Re- reviews are awesome. Came out great.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub34:27

       I heard it's great.

   12. JRJoe Rogan34:28

       I'm excited. You know, it's the best... I think the best one I've ever done. I really do. I think the last one, I think Triggered was the best one, and I think this one's better than that.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub34:36

       That's how it should go, right?

   14. JRJoe Rogan34:37

       Yeah, I mean, that's how it should go. Just keep working, keep, keep, uh, trying to refine it, and keep, uh, uh, you know, raise my standards. I learned some stuff. Still, out of all these years doing standup, I'm still learning. I learned some stuff in the editing process.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub34:51

       Really?

   16. JRJoe Rogan34:52

       Yeah. Well, I learned some stuff just watching. I think I, I re- I listen to recordings all the time, um, but I think I'm gonna step my game up now. And after talking to Bert Kreischer yesterday, Bert, uh, he records audio and he also records video, and I think I'm going to start recording video of all my shows too now.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub35:09

       It's tough. Oh, well, yeah, because when you're doing these giant theaters, so there's not video. 'Cause like-

   18. JRJoe Rogan35:15

       Terrible.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub35:15

       ... when I was at Parlor or wherever I go, they usually have video capability, so I get all the video.

   20. JRJoe Rogan35:18

       That's nice.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub35:19

       Always get the video.

   22. JRJoe Rogan35:20

       Well, the Icehouse can do that for me.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub35:21

       That's true.

   24. JRJoe Rogan35:22

       And, you know, I can, I could definitely get someone to do that for me at the store, but I just think it's critical to see the way you move as well as hear. Like you gotta analyze all that shit and try to figure out what... You gotta be natural and in the moment, but you also gotta analyze all the particulars and find out like what... Like I'll, I would watch like two or three different sets 'cause I film four shows, and I was like, "Why did I, why didn't I do that in the second show? Huh."

   25. BSBrendan Schaub35:47

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan35:47

       Like, "The way I did it there, that's the way to do it."

   27. BSBrendan Schaub35:49

       Yep.

   28. JRJoe Rogan35:49

       "But I did it differently in this other show."

   29. BSBrendan Schaub35:52

       I think the shitty part's watching yourself and listening to yourself.

   30. JRJoe Rogan35:55

       Ugh.
10. 43:39 – 45:46

    UFC 229 preview: will Conor–Khabib hit 2M buys, and why Conor skipped the promo tour

    1. JRJoe Rogan43:39

       Conor McGregor versus Khabib this weekend.

    2. BSBrendan Schaub43:39

       Anyways, Conor McGregor, yeah. (laughs)

    3. JRJoe Rogan43:42

       (laughs)

    4. BSBrendan Schaub43:42

       Well, it's a good transition. Uh, I, I'll tell you this.

    5. JRJoe Rogan43:44

       This weekend, boys.

    6. BSBrendan Schaub43:45

       Dude, I'll tell you this. I'm not being a hater, I'm not being, uh, some sort of Debbie Downer. I don't think it breaks two million pay-per-view buys.

    7. JRJoe Rogan43:54

       You might be right.

    8. BSBrendan Schaub43:54

       I'm, I'm not, I'm not seeing it, man. Like, when Conor fought Florida- Floyd or when Conor, uh, Nate Diaz 2, I couldn't go anywhere without hearing about it.

    9. JRJoe Rogan44:02

       Not Starbucks, you name ... Anywhere. Shoe store, where ... Car dealer. Everyone went, "Dude, Conor-Floyd, who you got, man?" Everybody and their mom. Now, very rare. Well-

    10. BSBrendan Schaub44:13

        Maybe on one of my shows someone will bring it up, but ...

    11. JRJoe Rogan44:15

        There's something that Conor didn't want to do for this fight, and that's massive promotion.

    12. BSBrendan Schaub44:19

        Yeah, but the ... So does that mean it's not as big? Like, who's that following? Is that Conor or the UFC? You know?

    13. JRJoe Rogan44:24

        Conor.

    14. BSBrendan Schaub44:24

        It's both.

    15. JRJoe Rogan44:25

        He doesn't want to do it. Well, the, the UFC has a model, right? And it worked in the Jose Aldo fight. That model is you just promote the holy fuck out of a fight. You travel the world, you promote the shit out of it, you scream at each other at press conferences, you do all that stuff for months and months and months, and those things sell like crazy.

    16. BSBrendan Schaub44:43

        If it's Conor McGregor.

    17. JRJoe Rogan44:44

        If it's Conor McGregor.

    18. BSBrendan Schaub44:45

        So, the-

    19. JRJoe Rogan44:45

        But who have they ever done it with besides Conor McGregor like that?

    20. BSBrendan Schaub44:49

        (sighs) No one really sells like that. They, you know, a little bit with Ronda, I guess, but she didn't have the same kind of chops as Conor. So Conor's the only one, but, you know, I, I don't know. Maybe it's 'cause he had a layoff, maybe it's after the Floyd thing. I think it does well. I don't think it breaks, uh, uh, Conor verse Nate 2.

    21. JRJoe Rogan45:06

        Well-

    22. BSBrendan Schaub45:06

        I don't, I don't think it breaks 1.6 million.

    23. JRJoe Rogan45:08

        What I think happened was Conor made 100 fucking million dollars and he was like, "Yeah, um, I'm just gonna train."

    24. BSBrendan Schaub45:15

        You know what I think? I think th- there's that and it also goes, I'm not ... That took so much energy to do all that and, and everyone knows me as that guy. I have the toughest fight of my life coming up. I'm taking every precaution necessary not to overtrain, not to use all my energy. This, I'm in the fight of my life and I'm gonna train like it, I'm shutting down everything. You can post a fucking ... Me throwing the dolly through the window 1,000 times. I'll do the press conference on Thursday. Other than that, man, I have got to get ready for the fight of my life.

    25. JRJoe Rogan45:45

        Yeah.

    26. BSBrendan Schaub45:45

        That's the way I'm looking at it.

11. 45:46 – 52:20

    Technical and psychological matchup: takedown threat, early ‘fire,’ hate factor, and weight-cut risks

    1. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       I think you're right, and I think this is the fight of his life. I think stylistically it's a nightmare matchup.

    2. BSBrendan Schaub45:51

       I think it's a nightmare matchup for both of them.

    3. JRJoe Rogan45:53

       Both of them.

    4. BSBrendan Schaub45:53

       I think anyone who goes, "Oh, Conor, you know, he can't wrestle, he can't do this. He's just going to get taken down and pounded out," you're so off, it's not even funny.

    5. JRJoe Rogan46:01

       Yeah.

    6. BSBrendan Schaub46:01

       You don't know the game, man.

    7. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       He absolutely is capable of stuffing a takedown or two in the early going. That's what's up. Because in the early going, he's got that stinger of a left hand. And if he-

    8. BSBrendan Schaub46:13

       His foot, his movement, his footwork.

    9. JRJoe Rogan46:14

       His movement, his footwork, and Khabib is gonna know that coming in. He's gonna be a little hesi- He's not gonna walk towards him like Edson Barboza did, or he did in the Edson Barboza fight.

    10. BSBrendan Schaub46:24

        He can't.

    11. JRJoe Rogan46:24

        Because Barboza is mostly kicks. Barboza throws a lot of kicks.

    12. BSBrendan Schaub46:29

        Thai style.

    13. JRJoe Rogan46:29

        A lot of Thai style kicks. And Khabib just put a tremendous amount of pressure on him and then got ahold of him. But Conor's gonna crack him with hands, and his footwork is way better.

    14. BSBrendan Schaub46:39

        Yes.

    15. JRJoe Rogan46:39

        He's, he's, he's just way better at moving in and moving out.

    16. BSBrendan Schaub46:43

        I, I think when people go, "Oh, it's either Conor starches him and gets the KO" or "Khabib just takes him down for five rounds and pounds him out." I think, uh, I think it's a, it's a classic fight. I think it's back and forth. I think it's a fucking dogfight.

    17. JRJoe Rogan46:55

        Yeah.

    18. BSBrendan Schaub46:56

        I think it's a fight of our lives, man. I, I really do.

    19. JRJoe Rogan46:58

        I think you're probably right. I, I-

    20. BSBrendan Schaub46:59

        I think you, I think you're getting a fucking great fight from two guys where there's more on the line than just win or lose.

    21. JRJoe Rogan47:06

        Mm-hmm.

    22. BSBrendan Schaub47:06

        I think with Khabib and what he represents, and, uh, talking to his team, his team captain, Josh Thompson, he goes, "Khabib's gonna retire after this."

    23. JRJoe Rogan47:13

        Really?

    24. BSBrendan Schaub47:14

        He wants to beat Conor and retire.

    25. JRJoe Rogan47:16

        Really?

    26. BSBrendan Schaub47:16

        He wants to retire like the Floyd Mayweather of, of MMA. 27-0, beat the, beat the UFC's, you know, poster boy and he walks off in the sunset. Unless they get him a super fight with GSP or something, he's done.

    27. JRJoe Rogan47:28

        Really? Wow, that's shocking. He's young.

    28. BSBrendan Schaub47:33

        Very shocking. He's, but think how long he's been doing this.

    29. JRJoe Rogan47:35

        Yeah. His whole life.

    30. BSBrendan Schaub47:35

        I think since he's four he's been fucking up grizzly bears.
12. 52:20 – 59:02

    Card-wide angles: Ferguson–Pettis, Volkov–Lewis, and Khabib’s legacy vs Conor’s résumé

    1. BSBrendan Schaub52:20

       Dude, if you're Tony Ferguson, it's like, "Oh, yeah, and Tony's fighting."

    2. JRJoe Rogan52:24

       Right.

    3. BSBrendan Schaub52:24

       It's-

    4. JRJoe Rogan52:24

       I know, and he's fighting Pettis.

    5. BSBrendan Schaub52:26

       It's not an easy fight for a comeback fight for Tony.

    6. JRJoe Rogan52:28

       No. I mean, I'm just amazed that he's able to fight again so quickly after knee surgery.

    7. BSBrendan Schaub52:33

       You know what's interesting to me is I, I asked Josh Thompson, who knows Khabib and obviously you can talk to DC about it, but they, I go, "Dude, Tony's back. Like, if Khabib were to win, he would fight Tony, right?" And he goes, "No interest." Th- that fight does nothing to him mentally, he just doesn't care about it. I'm like, (sighs)

    8. JRJoe Rogan52:48

       Khabib just doesn't care?

    9. BSBrendan Schaub52:49

       Yeah, he's like, "Not with Tony."

    10. JRJoe Rogan52:50

        So he really just wants to fight Conor and then get out.

    11. BSBrendan Schaub52:53

        Get out, wants to, wants to beat-

    12. JRJoe Rogan52:54

        Or fight GSP.

    13. BSBrendan Schaub52:55

        F- from, from, this is from Josh Thompson's mouth, from Khabib, he wants to beat the UFC's poster boy, Dana's poster boy and walk the fuck out.

    14. JRJoe Rogan53:03

        (laughs)

    15. BSBrendan Schaub53:03

        Unless they give him a super fight.

    16. JRJoe Rogan53:05

        Who the fuck has ever been 26 and 0 as a champion?

    17. BSBrendan Schaub53:09

        Now that-

    18. JRJoe Rogan53:09

        I think that's the only one.

    19. BSBrendan Schaub53:11

        Yeah, but 26 and 0 for sure he's fucking fighting Dagostinis.

    20. JRJoe Rogan53:13

        Who else has been an undefeated champion?

    21. BSBrendan Schaub53:16

        Undefeated champion?

    22. JRJoe Rogan53:17

        Jon Jones.

    23. BSBrendan Schaub53:17

        Well, Con- Conor was undefeated.

    24. JRJoe Rogan53:18

        But Jon Jones, did he fight-

    25. BSBrendan Schaub53:19

        Well, no, he didn't.

    26. JRJoe Rogan53:19

        ... Matt Hamill before he won the title?

    27. BSBrendan Schaub53:22

        Yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan53:22

        Yeah.

    29. BSBrendan Schaub53:22

        He fought Matt Hamill in the Ultimate Fighter.

    30. JRJoe Rogan53:23

        That's who-
13. 59:02 – 1:23:29

    USADA ‘snitching,’ Jon Jones sanctions, and changing anti-doping disclosure rules

    1. JRJoe Rogan59:02

       ... interesting, Werdum just released a, a statement saying that USADA asked him to snitch.

    2. BSBrendan Schaub59:07

       I know. What's going on with the snitching stuff?

    3. JRJoe Rogan59:09

       I don't know. They offered him, uh, a lean, more lenient sentence if he was willing to snitch and he goes, "Fuck you."

    4. BSBrendan Schaub59:16

       I love Werdum.

    5. JRJoe Rogan59:17

       I love that too.

    6. BSBrendan Schaub59:17

       And Jon, and then I guess Jon was like, "Cool." (laughs)

    7. JRJoe Rogan59:20

       (laughs) I don't know if Jon-

    8. BSBrendan Schaub59:21

       I don't either.

    9. JRJoe Rogan59:22

       I-

    10. BSBrendan Schaub59:22

        But that's what they're saying. I don't either.

    11. JRJoe Rogan59:23

        I didn't hear that Jon snitched. Did you hear Jon snitch?

    12. BSBrendan Schaub59:25

        That's, that's, that's what the statement says.

    13. JRJoe Rogan59:28

        But Jon's manager says that he didn't st- what statement from who?

    14. BSBrendan Schaub59:31

        The statement from-

    15. JRJoe Rogan59:32

        Did he just give you a hippo... (laughs)

    16. BSBrendan Schaub59:32

        Come on, bro.

    17. JRJoe Rogan59:33

        (laughs)

    18. BSBrendan Schaub59:33

        His manager?

    19. JRJoe Rogan59:34

        Did he just give you a skeptic hippo face?

    20. BSBrendan Schaub59:36

        Dude, s- but no, I'm not saying Jon did.

    21. JRJoe Rogan59:39

        (laughs)

    22. BSBrendan Schaub59:39

        Let's be very clear. All I'm saying is he came out with that statement and then, uh, Malkin goes, "He didn't snitch." And then, uh-

    23. JRJoe Rogan59:46

        Everybody's like, "Wait, what?" (laughs)

    24. BSBrendan Schaub59:47

        ... Ne- Novitsky, Novitsky was like, "No, you said you were gonna give us some info to help us out down the road with other people." So, you know, I don't...

    25. JRJoe Rogan59:55

        What?

    26. BSBrendan Schaub59:56

        Yeah, the... USADA had to release an official statement went, "Hold on."

    27. JRJoe Rogan59:59

        Wait a minute.

    28. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:00

        Because Malkin came out and was like, "No, we never agreed and said we were gonna snitch." And then USADA's like, "Well, well, no, remember? Remember the contract you signed? Here's this section of the contract."

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:00:09

        He s- they said they would help them out in the future with other people.

    30. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:14

        I mean, but bring it up, Jamie, before I'm just-

Episode duration: 2:13:28