JRE MMA Show #43 with Brendan Schaub

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   Still no main event…

   1. BSBrendan Schaub0:00

      Still no main event for Madison Square Garden.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      I know. Four, three, two, one.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub0:07

      (sighs) (hands clap)

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      Booyah. Yeah, no main event for Madison Square Garden so far. The rumors were Jon Jones and Gustafsson, but I don't know.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub0:15

      I don't know.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      I don't know why that hasn't materialized.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub0:18

      Are they just waiting to announce it till after the whole Conor-Khabib thing?

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      Why would they do that? I think if they announce something, it's gotta be this weekend. I mean, we're ... What is it, November 3rd or something?

   9. BSBrendan Schaub0:28

      It's soon.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       So it's a month.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub0:30

       It's super soon. Month.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Literally a month. Today's the 3rd, right? 2nd? Today's the 2nd.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub0:35

       Today's the 2nd.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Yeah. Fuck, man. That ain't good.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub0:39

       I th- ... Yeah. Maybe they just don't wanna steal any shine from the Conor-Khabib fight.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       (sighs) I don't think so.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub0:45

       I don't know, man.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       I think they just don't have a card yet.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub0:47

       I think they, they were banking on Jones to-

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       Right.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub0:50

       ... fill that main event, but it, it's been tricky to fill that slot. But also, why not have ... If, if, if you're gonna do this, why not announce Nate Diaz, Dustin Poirier as your main event? That's a great main event. I can ride with that.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       But why the main event though?

   23. BSBrendan Schaub1:03

       Why not do that and then advent- ... then announce Jon Jones and Gustafsson or Jon Jones and Cain if you want to?

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       But the main event is to be announced versus to be determined.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub1:12

       (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:12

       (laughs) That's the weirdest main event I've ever seen.

   27. BSBrendan Schaub1:15

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:15

       I've never seen a fucking pay-per-view, um, a month out that says, "To be announced," versus, "To be determined," in the main event.

   29. JVJamie Vernon1:22

       Does that mean they have somebody booked and then they're not an opponent for them and they're not even announcing it?

   30. BSBrendan Schaub1:27

       Ooh.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   That's pretty fun. That's…

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      you like this and then this, "Yeah."

   2. BSBrendan Schaub15:02

      That's pretty fun. That's pretty fun.

   3. GUGuest15:04

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      It was the best rollercoasters I've ever been on.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub15:08

      Knott's is, uh, skeptical hippo eyes, 'cause when you get there, their whole theme is Charlie Brown. It's like who the fuck's watching Charlie Brown these days?

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:16

      (laughs)

   7. BSBrendan Schaub15:16

      Everyone asks that, "Is Spider-Man, Marvel."

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:18

      Right.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub15:18

      You got Disney with Mickey, they got Charlie Brown.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:21

       Mm-hmm.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub15:21

       My kid's like, "Who the fuck is Charlie Brown?"

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:22

       I didn't even notice Charlie Brown. It was all like th- there's a Wild West theme area.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub15:26

       Oh, it's random as shit at Knott's Berry.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:27

       There's a bunch of random, weird things. (laughs)

   15. BSBrendan Schaub15:29

       But their, their main slogan is Charlie Brown.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:32

       Well, we, we had a good time, me and the family had a good time.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub15:34

       We had a good time, man.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:35

       You know what, uh, I'll tell you what though, all, overall best ride I've ever been on 100% is Disney World. The Jurassic, not the Jurassic Park, the Avatar ride.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub15:47

       Oh, wow.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:47

       The Avatar ride in Orlando.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub15:49

       All right.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:50

       It's called Flights of Passage, I think it is. Dude, bo- beyond the greatest ride ever. It's all virtual reality. You climb into like a chair, like you're on a motorcycle, that pushes against your back and you, you settle into this thing and then you put these goggles on, like this headset thing on and you're in full virtual reality. And this is it. And you, this is the-

   23. BSBrendan Schaub16:12

       God damn.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:12

       This is the one where you're on the boat. There's two actual Avatar rides. This one's pretty dope too.

   25. GUGuest16:18

       That's awesome.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub16:18

       That looks legit. That looks like Avatar World.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:21

       Yeah, this one, that's pretty dope too. That one you're on a boat like Pirates of the Caribbean. Yeah, this is it. So-

   28. BSBrendan Schaub16:26

       I like the boat.

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:27

       The boat's pretty badass. But this one you're flying in full virtual reality while you're riding on the back of one of those dragon things.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub16:34

       I mean, I've seen better graphics on it, but-
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   He can do it.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      it's just a thing that he's stuck with now. So he's gotta figure out how to ingratiate himself. He's gotta figure out, uh, how to, to reemerge. And I think-

   2. BSBrendan Schaub30:13

      He can do it.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:14

      I think he can do it.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub30:15

      Sure he can do it.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:16

      Look, he, he's not an awful person.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub30:18

      No.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:18

      I just think he did some stupid things that are really gross and weird. But, if he just... I mean, and he, and he has owned up to it. I think he just, you know, makes some sort of a sincere apology and then does something. Like, what could you do-... to, to, I mean, what are you-

   8. BSBrendan Schaub30:34

      Help female comics maybe? Do a, do a-

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:36

      He's done that. He's tried to help, but a lot of people accused him of trying to help them-

   10. BSBrendan Schaub30:40

       Made a mad.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:41

       ... to try to cover up his tracks.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub30:42

       Well, fuck, man.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       You know?

   14. BSBrendan Schaub30:43

       You gotta, he has to do something. He has to go back to work.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:48

       Yeah. I mean, it's been a year now, right? It's a year next month. I think to expect him to just never work again seems ridiculous.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub30:59

       It's crazy.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:59

       And to not forgive him. There has to be a path, uh, to redemption for anyone who's done anything other than actual rape or murder, right? Like, for Bill Cosby, I'm very happy he's locked up. I think what he did is awful. Can you imagine being one of those girls that turned to him as a mentor and you wake up and y- you know, you're, you've been violated while you're out cold-

   18. BSBrendan Schaub31:21

       Terrible. Terrible.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:21

       ... and you're drugged and you're confused.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub31:22

       Horrible.

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:23

       And Bill Cosby did it to you. And who the fuck is gonna believe that? His image is... That's the thing about Louis, right? Like, Louis' image was like, he's a pervert, he's a weirdo, he's always talking about jerking off. Like, when you found out Louis C.K. asked girls if he could jerk off in front of them and then did it, it's like, not the most surprising thing.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub31:39

       No.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:39

       But with Bill Cosby, it's, here's a guy who is, and I'm not comparing the, the acts at all, but I'm just saying as far as like famous people who've done something that, you know, became a scandal, with Bill, with Bill Cosby, he was this moral guy. He was this like ethics guy. And he wore sweaters and-

   24. BSBrendan Schaub32:00

       America's dad.

   25. JRJoe Rogan32:01

       ... he was America's dad. And to find out that that guy was drugging and raping women... He's in fucking jail right now, which is crazy, right?

   26. BSBrendan Schaub32:10

       He's gonna die, I give it, what are you, over/under a week? Do you think it's-

   27. JRJoe Rogan32:14

       You think so?

   28. BSBrendan Schaub32:14

       ... the way it goes with those old dudes.

   29. JRJoe Rogan32:16

       Really?

   30. BSBrendan Schaub32:16

       Yeah.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Well- …

   1. BSBrendan Schaub45:00

      a layoff, maybe it's after the Floyd thing. I think it does well. I don't think it breaks, uh, uh, Conor verse Nate 2.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:06

      Well-

   3. BSBrendan Schaub45:06

      I don't, I don't think it breaks 1.6 million.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:08

      What I think happened was Conor made 100 fucking million dollars and he was like, "Yeah, um, I'm just gonna train."

   5. BSBrendan Schaub45:15

      You know what I think? I think th- there's that and it also goes, I'm not ... That took so much energy to do all that and, and everyone knows me as that guy. I have the toughest fight of my life coming up. I'm taking every precaution necessary not to overtrain, not to use all my energy. This, I'm in the fight of my life and I'm gonna train like it, I'm shutting down everything. You can post a fucking ... Me throwing the dolly through the window 1,000 times. I'll do the press conference on Thursday. Other than that, man, I have got to get ready for the fight of my life.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:45

      Yeah.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub45:45

      That's the way I'm looking at it.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:46

      I think you're right, and I think this is the fight of his life. I think stylistically it's a nightmare matchup.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub45:51

      I think it's a nightmare matchup for both of them.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:53

       Both of them.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub45:53

       I think anyone who goes, "Oh, Conor, you know, he can't wrestle, he can't do this. He's just going to get taken down and pounded out," you're so off, it's not even funny.

   12. JRJoe Rogan46:01

       Yeah.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub46:01

       You don't know the game, man.

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       He absolutely is capable of stuffing a takedown or two in the early going. That's what's up. Because in the early going, he's got that stinger of a left hand. And if he-

   15. BSBrendan Schaub46:13

       His foot, his movement, his footwork.

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:14

       His movement, his footwork, and Khabib is gonna know that coming in. He's gonna be a little hesi- He's not gonna walk towards him like Edson Barboza did, or he did in the Edson Barboza fight.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub46:24

       He can't.

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:24

       Because Barboza is mostly kicks. Barboza throws a lot of kicks.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub46:29

       Thai style.

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:29

       A lot of Thai style kicks. And Khabib just put a tremendous amount of pressure on him and then got ahold of him. But Conor's gonna crack him with hands, and his footwork is way better.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub46:39

       Yes.

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:39

       He's, he's, he's just way better at moving in and moving out.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub46:43

       I, I think when people go, "Oh, it's either Conor starches him and gets the KO" or "Khabib just takes him down for five rounds and pounds him out." I think, uh, I think it's a, it's a classic fight. I think it's back and forth. I think it's a fucking dogfight.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:55

       Yeah.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub46:56

       I think it's a fight of our lives, man. I, I really do.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:58

       I think you're probably right. I, I-

   27. BSBrendan Schaub46:59

       I think you, I think you're getting a fucking great fight from two guys where there's more on the line than just win or lose.

   28. JRJoe Rogan47:06

       Mm-hmm.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub47:06

       I think with Khabib and what he represents, and, uh, talking to his team, his team captain, Josh Thompson, he goes, "Khabib's gonna retire after this."

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:13

       Really?
5. 1:00:00 – 1:04:31

   Because Malkin came out…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      a minute.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:00

      Because Malkin came out and was like, "No, we never agreed and said we were gonna snitch." And then USADA's like, "Well, well, no, remember? Remember the contract you signed? Here's this section of the contract."

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:09

      He s- they said they would help them out in the future with other people.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:14

      I mean, but bring it up, Jamie, before I'm just-

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

      Man, Jon Jones world champion walking around wearing a wire.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:19

      Hey, guys, uh-

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:20

      (laughs)

   8. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:20

      ... my creatine just ain't working.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

      (laughs)

   10. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:21

       God, everyone else, anyone else just exhausted today?

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

       You guys are just so ripped, dude.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:25

       You got anything?

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

       What's your secret? (laughs)

   14. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:26

       (laughs) You got anything, bro?

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:28

       (laughs)

   16. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:28

       Why are you in a full hoodie and sweatsuit in the sauna?

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:31

       Yeah, I don't... Uh, you know, I'm gonna go out on a limb here. I don't think that Jon cheated.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:37

       I don't e- uh... You don't think he cheated?

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:39

       I don't. No.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:39

       I don't know.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:40

       I don't.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:40

       I don't know. It's very murky waters.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:42

       I, I might be wrong. I might be wrong. I don't think he cheated. I think he took something that was tainted. I think that's why they're only giving him a year off and I think... Look, I had said it on the podcast before-

   24. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:50

       You don't have any skeptical hippo eyes about-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:52

       No.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:52

       ... how it's shortened sentence, it's ready to go right around New York?

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:00:55

       No.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub1:00:55

       Right around the CSBN deal?

   29. JVJamie Vernon1:00:57

       This is the explanation sort of right here.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:00:59

       Mm. Malkin says, "There was none, but I keep saying that and everybody keeps running with it. Substantial assistance doesn't necessarily mean it has to be on somebody else. It could've been on himself."What?

Episode duration: 2:13:28