JRE MMA Show #52 with Michael Bisping

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   Five, four, three, two,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      Five, four, three, two, one. Boom, and we're live. Mr. Bisping, how are you, sir?

   2. MBMichael Bisping0:08

      What's up, Joe? I'm good.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:09

      We finally did this, man.

   4. MBMichael Bisping0:10

      I know. We've been talking about it for-

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      (laughs) Years.

   6. MBMichael Bisping0:12

      ... feels like a lifetime, you know?

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      It's been a, it's been quite a while, man.

   8. MBMichael Bisping0:15

      Yeah, yeah. But, uh, yeah, happy to be here. Quite the setup you have.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      As an Englishman-

   10. MBMichael Bisping0:19

       Yes.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:19

       ... please explain to me the Hawaiian flag. What the fuck is th- the Hawaiian flag-

   12. MBMichael Bisping0:23

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       ... seems to me-

   14. MBMichael Bisping0:25

       Straight off the bat, I'm like, "Joe-"

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       ... I was confused. I was looking at it the other day when Max Holloway won, I was like, "If I didn't... If you didn't know any better, and you looked at that, you'd be like, 'This is some strange British flag.'"

   16. MBMichael Bisping0:34

       Well, right off, right off the bat, I'm like, "Joe's a smart guy. I've seen the podcast. He goes deep on things."

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       (laughs)

   18. MBMichael Bisping0:39

       I'm like, "Do I need to read some encyclopedias before I come on here?"

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       (laughs)

   20. MBMichael Bisping0:42

       And the first thing you say is, "Explain the British flag, sorry, the Hawaiian flag."

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       Like, what is that?

   22. MBMichael Bisping0:47

       Well...

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       It's like a British flag and then something else.

   24. MBMichael Bisping0:49

       I can't claim to be an expert on the history of Hawaii. I failed that class, funnily enough.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       Mmm.

   26. MBMichael Bisping0:57

       But I would say that we colonized it at one point, much like America.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       Right.

   28. MBMichael Bisping1:02

       I don't know if you know this. Uh-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       Yeah.

   30. MBMichael Bisping1:03

       ... much like-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   You're telling me that…

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      Okay.

   2. MBMichael Bisping15:00

      You're telling me that you don't believe that Yoel Romero ever took a steroid in his life?

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      I didn't say that.

   4. MBMichael Bisping15:05

      Okay.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      I definitely didn't say that.

   6. MBMichael Bisping15:06

      Cool.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      I think it's possible.

   8. MBMichael Bisping15:08

      Oh, it's possible?

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:08

      It's totally possible.

   10. MBMichael Bisping15:09

       How's that fence he's sitting on?

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:11

       (laughs)

   12. MBMichael Bisping15:11

       I get it. I get it, but I mean-

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:12

       No, but it's, it's...

   14. MBMichael Bisping15:12

       ... it's, it's, it's a tough scenario for you to be in.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:14

       No, no, no.

   16. MBMichael Bisping15:15

       UFC commentator, you-

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:16

       I'm, I'm fucking honest, bro.

   18. MBMichael Bisping15:17

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:17

       If I believe it-

   20. MBMichael Bisping15:18

       (coughs) .

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:18

       ... I'll say it.

   22. MBMichael Bisping15:19

       And, and let's not forget, he tested positive. There was that whole...

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:21

       Yes, yes.

   24. MBMichael Bisping15:22

       Any time somebody says it was a tainted supplement-

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:24

       Tainted supplement, yeah.

   26. MBMichael Bisping15:25

       ... it's bullshit.

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:25

       You never tested positive for anything?

   28. MBMichael Bisping15:26

       Never tested positive in my life.

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:28

       Right.

   30. MBMichael Bisping15:28

       Let me tell you something. I'm not a guy that scours the back of everything I read.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah. …

   1. MBMichael Bisping30:00

      fucking blew his knee out.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      Yeah.

   3. MBMichael Bisping30:01

      You know? So, you know, listen-

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      But he blew his knee out doing press obligations. He didn't do anything stupid.

   5. MBMichael Bisping30:06

      Sure. No, exactly.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      That's why I didn't understand that they stripped him.

   7. MBMichael Bisping30:08

      Hmm.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:08

      I was like, this guy... I mean, the guy's ready to fight.

   9. MBMichael Bisping30:11

      Yeah, yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:11

       I mean, and, and then a few months later, he was ready to go again. He beats the shit out of Pettis.

   11. MBMichael Bisping30:16

       Yeah, no, and oh, and he looked incredible.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:18

       Yeah.

   13. MBMichael Bisping30:18

       See, I was kinda concerned in that fight as well because it was so fast coming back-

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:23

       Mm-hmm, so fast.

   15. MBMichael Bisping30:24

       ... and I thought... And apparently, he was doing his own rehab-

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       Yeah.

   17. MBMichael Bisping30:26

       ... and doing all these wild techniques. And you saw that stuff online that he was doing.

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:29

       Yeah.

   19. MBMichael Bisping30:29

       I thought, "This guy's gonna hurt himself again." But, uh, no, he went out there, looked amazing. He really did.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       Apparently, he didn't even do any sparring.

   21. MBMichael Bisping30:36

       Oh, really?

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:37

       Yeah.

   23. MBMichael Bisping30:37

       Huh, interesting.

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:38

       So, I mean, I need to find this out for sure from him-

   25. MBMichael Bisping30:40

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan30:40

       ... but the word I'm getting from people that know him is that he didn't spar, he just got in incredible shape, and he said, "Look, this knee is healing up. It's in the process of healing." And during his camp, it was continuing to heal.

   27. MBMichael Bisping30:50

       Interesting.

   28. JRJoe Rogan30:51

       And the way, the way he kept that going is, "Don't do any takedowns. Don't get your knee wrenched."

   29. MBMichael Bisping30:55

       Mm-hmm.

   30. JRJoe Rogan30:55

       "Don't get leg-kicked."
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      to stop a fight, and it's one of the more frustrating things ever when a s- when a referee stops a fight prematurely. It's rough.

   2. MBMichael Bisping45:05

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:06

      But then when you look at a fight like the Adonis Stevenson fight this weekend, and I don't remember how to pronounce the Russian gentleman's name. It's with a G, Z-

   4. MBMichael Bisping45:13

      Yeah, yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:14

      The guy who knocked out Adonis Stevenson.

   6. MBMichael Bisping45:15

      So I didn't see this, but the Adonis is in hospital in critical condition right now, correct?

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:20

      Yes.

   8. MBMichael Bisping45:20

      Yeah. Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:20

      Yes. And he's gone ... Undergone brain surgery. He's got, uh ... Apparently he's got bleeding on the brain and it was, uh ... It was a v- it was a good knockout, but it wasn't particularly-

   10. MBMichael Bisping45:31

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:32

       It wasn't insanely vicious.

   12. MBMichael Bisping45:33

       It ... Yeah, so when you looked at it you didn't think-

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:36

       Right. He looked okay.

   14. MBMichael Bisping45:36

       ... this guy's gonna have issues. Yeah. See-

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:38

       No, he- he sat up. He got up. They're like, "He looks like he's okay." And it looked like, you know-

   16. MBMichael Bisping45:43

       But that's the problem with boxing.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:44

       Yeah.

   18. MBMichael Bisping45:44

       You know? Um, I think what- what is it? 12 to 15 deaths per year-

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:49

       Mm-hmm.

   20. MBMichael Bisping45:50

       ... in boxing around the world.

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:51

       Yeah.

   22. MBMichael Bisping45:51

       It- it's a very, very sad stat. I guess, you know ... I mean, you're involved with the UFC, you know all the-

   23. JRJoe Rogan45:57

       Yeah.

   24. MBMichael Bisping45:57

       ... the pro MMA, um, dialogue that's put out there, you know? "Well, boxing is more dangerous because it's only punches to the head and they can-

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:05

       Mm-hmm.

   26. MBMichael Bisping46:05

       ... take more blows." But th-

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:07

       That is the thing, that you can take more blow.

   28. MBMichael Bisping46:08

       I guess it is true.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:09

       It is, it is true.

   30. MBMichael Bisping46:10

       Yeah, for sure. The slightly bigger gloves-
5. 1:00:00 – 1:01:04

   (laughs) …

   1. MBMichael Bisping1:00:00

      goose chase trying to get these fucking walkie-talkies that didn't even get played with. He was like, "Yeah, cool, I've got a phone, dad." (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:06

      (laughs)

   3. MBMichael Bisping1:00:06

      I'm like, "Yeah, I should have thought of that." But, um, and as I'm looking for them, I check Twitter. I got a coffee and I see Chris Weidman had pulled out. So yeah, I text Dana. I said, "Listen, if, uh, if this is true, you know, you know where I am." And he was like, "Oh, great, we love that, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But Jacare is our first option." So I thought... For a minute there I thought I was getting a title shot, and I thought, "There's no way Jacare is gonna turn it down." So I went to my buddy's, Jason's house, and watched a basketball game and had a few drinks and, you know. Didn't party as such, I was on set the next day, but I had a few drinks. Now, if I knew I was fighting for a world belt in two weeks, you know, I would have been on a strict diet, not overindulging, but I definitely overindulged. And then the next day, I'm walking into the gym just to have, you know, this little light workout and my phone starts exploding, lighting up like a Christmas tree. And I'm like, "What the hell?" And then Al- Ariel Helwani calls me, he's like, "Mike, Dana just announced on SportsCenter that you're fighting for the belt." (laughs) I'm like, "What?"

Episode duration: 2:04:24