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JRE MMA Show #66 with Michelle Waterson

Joe is joined by UFC Strawweight fighter Michelle Waterson.

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May 28, 20191h 49mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Karate Hottie Michelle Waterson On Fighting, Motherhood, And Mindset

  1. Michelle Waterson joins Joe Rogan to trace her journey from a broke 10-year-old doing church karate to a top UFC strawweight contender and aspiring 'mom champ.'
  2. She describes how point-karate, Muay Thai in Thailand, and early MMA experiences with Donald Cerrone and the Jackson-Wink team shaped her all‑around game.
  3. They dig into weight cutting, USADA and steroids, extreme knockouts and slams, and the technical evolution of MMA and women’s divisions.
  4. Waterson also shares how becoming a mother reshaped her career, how she uses sports psychology and visualization, and why she believes she deserves a UFC title shot next.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Non-linear paths can still lead to the elite level if you keep following the pull.

Waterson went from working at Hooters and being a ring girl to training with Donald Cerrone and dropping out of college to fight, proving that consistent action toward what excites you can redefine your trajectory.

Technical breadth and blending skills are now essential in modern MMA.

Her journey from point-karate to Muay Thai, grappling, and then learning to seamlessly connect kicks, punches, and takedowns illustrates that “blending” disciplines beats being great at one isolated art.

Mental rehearsal and cue words can dramatically strengthen performance under pressure.

Working with a sports psychologist, Waterson repeatedly ‘fights’ in her head and uses concise “power words” like “confidence” and “mom champ” as mental shortcuts to desired emotional states mid-fight.

Weight cutting is a structurally flawed but still normalized part of MMA.

They criticize drastic cuts as sanctioned cheating and health‑damaging, yet Waterson admits the cut feels like a final test; she keeps her own cut relatively small but argues hydration testing (like ONE’s model) would be safer and fairer.

PEDs and regulation gaps still shape competitive reality and legacy.

Through examples like TJ Dillashaw, Bob Sapp, and Pride’s lax steroid culture, they highlight how drugs can change durability, power, and gas tanks—and how improved testing both exposes abuse and complicates past legacies.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

I remember walking around the cage as a ring girl thinking, ‘Man, I wanna be on the inside.’

Michelle Waterson

I came back from Thailand, dropped out of college, and decided to pursue fighting.

Michelle Waterson

I wanna be the first mom champ.

Michelle Waterson

Weight cutting is nothing but sanctioned cheating.

Joe Rogan

There are only a couple things you have to do as a fighter. Cutting weight is one of them.

Michelle Waterson

Michelle Waterson’s martial arts origin story and early karate competitionTransition from ring girl and college student to professional MMA fighterTraining evolution: karate, Muay Thai in Thailand, grappling, and Jackson-Wink cultureWomen’s MMA: strawweight division depth, rankings, and title shot politicsSafety, PEDs, USADA, weight cutting, and fairness (including transgender athletes in sports)Technical analysis of notable fights, slams, and style matchups in MMA and Muay ThaiMotherhood, mental training, visualization, and balancing family with a fighting career

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