JRE MMA Show #75 with Dan Hardy

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   ... who'll might bring…

   1. DHDan Hardy0:00

      ... who'll might bring notes.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      No. Sometimes you remember things. Boom, and we're live. Sometimes, like you, uh, y- I have to remember things.

   3. DHDan Hardy0:07

      Ah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      Duh. Like, if there's a thought that popped in my head or something I just forgot, I, I need to write things down. Too many ideas just slip away.

   5. DHDan Hardy0:14

      Yeah. Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      They slip away.

   7. DHDan Hardy0:16

      But one thing you said a while ago, which I've tried to start using, are the voice memos on my phone, and I'm not very good at it. You say you record straight into your phone all the time.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      Oh, yeah. It's really good. Yeah, it's really good.

   9. DHDan Hardy0:25

      I'm, I'm trying to make it fun. I've got, like, an old school Elvis microphone and, like, a 1950s style cord into an old recorder, and I'm trying to use that a bit more because we were talking about Hunter S. Thompson.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Mm-hmm.

   11. DHDan Hardy0:35

       I like the idea of recording stuff as I'm moving-

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       (laughs)

   13. DHDan Hardy0:38

       ... but it's, it's a habit I'm not getting into right now.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       Well, the, uh, I think recording anything, like, when you have an idea that you go, "Goddammit, this is a good idea." Like, grab it.

   15. DHDan Hardy0:48

       Mm-hmm.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       Grab it.

   17. DHDan Hardy0:49

       There you go.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       I think it was Neal Brennan said it best, that he looks at his notebook like a net for catching ideas.

   19. DHDan Hardy0:55

       I like that.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       I love that.

   21. DHDan Hardy0:56

       Why am I always driving, though? I'm always driving.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       Always. Always. 'Cause I think when you're in the zone, like, you're driving, there's something about th- like... You, you know how sometimes you could be, like, miles away and you're like, "How the fuck did I get here?"

   23. DHDan Hardy1:10

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:10

       Like, you're sober.

   25. DHDan Hardy1:11

       Yeah. That's terrifying.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:12

       And you're driving and you're like, "How did I drive miles? I, I, I evidently changed lanes."

   27. DHDan Hardy1:17

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:17

       "I, you know, I know where I'm going. Everything was in- inside the lanes, but I was- I'm barely there."

   29. DHDan Hardy1:23

       Mm-hmm.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:24

       "What is that?"
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   So when I'm near…

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

   2. DHDan Hardy15:00

      So when I'm near a coast, I wanna make the most of it, but I had no warm training clothes so I'm out there running. And the reason I was out there running a- and my lungs felt like they were bleeding was because you put a, a, uh, Instagram mess- uh, Instagram post up saying something about not being lazy and it just, it got me str- I was like, I picked it up, it was the first post that came up on Instagram, I was still laying in bed and I was like, "I'm gonna see Joe next week."

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:24

      (laughs)

   4. DHDan Hardy15:25

      I've, I've, I've gotta be, I've gotta be inspired in this moment. So thank you.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:27

      I, well, uh, my pleasure. I'm, I'm very thankful for you. That no- and I'm thankful for all those people that, there's legitimate people that make posts like that that are fuel.

   6. DHDan Hardy15:36

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:36

      They're mental fuel. You know, like when Goggins makes a post or when Jocko makes a post or my friend Cam Hanes makes a post, I read those posts and I fucking wanna get going.

   8. DHDan Hardy15:46

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:46

      I wanna get going 'cause I know they're getting after it.

   10. DHDan Hardy15:48

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       It's, it sounds so, like, for people who are not into exercise, for people who think that we're macho assholes, this is, like, an excellent place where you would criticize. Like, "God, it's so cliche. What are you gonna go get after it?" I'm telling you there is great value spiritually in doing something hard.

   12. DHDan Hardy16:07

       For sure.

   13. JRJoe Rogan16:07

       There is.

   14. DHDan Hardy16:08

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:08

       There's something about it. It makes, it makes you a better person. Sounds ridiculous, but all my favorite people can fucking push themselves.

   16. DHDan Hardy16:17

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:17

       All my favorite people work out hard.

   18. DHDan Hardy16:20

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:20

       Because when they do it, it breaks down bullshit better than anything else you can do. It just breaks down bullshit. You know who you are when you're done.

   20. DHDan Hardy16:30

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:30

       You know when you've bitched out, you know when you've started coasting the last 30 seconds of a round. You know, you know all that, man. You can't lie to yourself.

   22. DHDan Hardy16:38

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:39

       It's the, the grand exposure of who you are. And it only comes during, like, s- extreme duress. It only cl- comes when you're doing something that's hard as fuck, whether it's rolling jujitsu or running hills or doing yoga, it comes in those moments where you wanna fucking quit.

   24. DHDan Hardy16:55

       Yeah. It's been a while since I've been in California now. I was actually reminiscing on some of those late night Legends sessions back in the day.

   25. JRJoe Rogan17:01

       Those were great, man.

   26. DHDan Hardy17:01

       Do you remember those days?

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:02

       Yes, those were great.

   28. DHDan Hardy17:03

       And I even took a drive past the place and I just, and it's, it's empty. There's nothing there now.

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:07

       (sighs)

   30. DHDan Hardy17:07

       But I, I took a drive past it and I remember, like, we were in there till, like, 10:30, 11:00 at night.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   He's so tall and…

   1. DHDan Hardy30:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      He's so tall and long, and he moved so good for a big heavyweight.

   3. DHDan Hardy30:03

      Nice dude though.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      God damn.

   5. DHDan Hardy30:04

      Mm-hmm.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      He's a great guy.

   7. DHDan Hardy30:05

      Mm-hmm. Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:05

      He's a sweetheart of a guy.

   9. DHDan Hardy30:07

      He is.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:07

       And he really genuinely cares to reach out to people and tell them that if you are going through depression, if you're dealing with and suffering from mental illness, talk about it and get help.

   11. DHDan Hardy30:17

       Mm-hmm.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:17

       Because I almost killed myself, and now here I am, champ of the world, feeling great.

   13. DHDan Hardy30:21

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:22

       You know.

   15. DHDan Hardy30:22

       I'd love to see him against Andy Ruiz.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:24

       I would love to see that too.

   17. DHDan Hardy30:25

       Can you imagine that?

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:25

       I think we'll see that.

   19. DHDan Hardy30:26

       Yeah, I hope so.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       I think we'll see all these fights. A- Andy Ruiz is, uh, not looking forward to fighting in Saudi Arabia apparently.

   21. DHDan Hardy30:32

       Yeah, why is it there? That makes no sense at all.

   22. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       I do not... Look, again, one more time, I'm a moron, I'm not a fight promoter, I don't know what the fuck goes on behind the so- the scenes with lawyers and, uh, I don't know what, what the contract said that he had, but what I had heard was that he had to fight in England. Like, that was in the contract. That's what I had heard. But that could be horse shit.

   23. DHDan Hardy30:52

       Yeah. I mean, I, I-

   24. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       I have no idea. Maybe it, maybe it says in the contract that they have the right to tell him. I shouldn't even said that I heard that, because I don't even remember who told it to me. But the point is, there's a story that just came out that he does not want this fight to be in Saudi Arabia and I think he wants to fight in New York again. He, he said he doesn't trust it over there. You know, like, he, he doesn't trust it in England either. He doesn't trust f- fighting Joshua in England. He's like, "No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no."

   25. DHDan Hardy31:15

       Yeah. I get it. I mean, he's the champ now, he can call his shot, right?

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:18

       He's the champ now (laughs) .

   27. DHDan Hardy31:18

       He can call his shot.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:20

       He's the champ. Yeah, he's the champ, man.

   29. DHDan Hardy31:21

       Neutral territory.

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:21

       Fucking super nice guy. Have you met him?
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   No, it can't happen.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      Valentyna Shevchenko and Amanda Nunes, apparently.

   2. DHDan Hardy45:03

      No, it can't happen.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:03

      You see his new shirt?

   4. DHDan Hardy45:04

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:04

      He's got intergender champion shirts.

   6. DHDan Hardy45:06

      No, please.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:06

      Yes, yes, yes. Go to his Instagram. (laughs) I love it.

   8. DHDan Hardy45:09

      Please no.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:09

      I love it. Henry, I'm in your corner. You keep this up.

   10. DHDan Hardy45:11

       No, no, Henry. (slaps thigh)

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:12

       (laughs)

   12. DHDan Hardy45:12

       Come on.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:13

       He's going-

   14. DHDan Hardy45:13

       No more rabbits out of hats. No more capes and-

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:16

       (claps hands) He's got people excited about flyweight, man.

   16. DHDan Hardy45:18

       Yeah, but...

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:20

       Dude, you got to see his T-shirt.

   18. DHDan Hardy45:21

       Intergender stuff.

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:21

       I love it.

   20. DHDan Hardy45:22

       I can't... We can't... No, no.

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:23

       Look, they're all in on it, man. This might as well be pro wrestling.

   22. DHDan Hardy45:25

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan45:26

       Look at this. Everybody's in on it. Let me see it. Look at that. (laughs)

   24. DHDan Hardy45:31

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan45:31

       Intergender world champion. It's all in gold on a black shirt. God bless you, Henry Cejudo.

   26. DHDan Hardy45:36

       Oh, that's...

   27. JRJoe Rogan45:36

       God, God bless you.

   28. DHDan Hardy45:38

       That's terrible.

   29. JRJoe Rogan45:38

       I mean, he's fucking Andy-

   30. DHDan Hardy45:39

       Come on.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:04:09

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      language, what, that we made when we went with language.

   2. DHDan Hardy1:00:03

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

      Where we lost our ability to read each other the way we used to or to, to read thoughts and ideas way we used to.

   4. DHDan Hardy1:00:10

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:10

      We rely instead on this other thing. So it's sort of like when you wear shoes all the time, your feet get soft.

   6. DHDan Hardy1:00:18

      For sure.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

      You know? Like, you lose-

   8. DHDan Hardy1:00:18

      Well, we have, we have, I mean, we've done a lot of things to detach ourself from all of that stuff. You know what I mean?

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

      Yeah.

   10. DHDan Hardy1:00:22

       Like, and I, and I think, you, you know, people that, like, Wim Hof and Tim Shief and people like that that kinda go back to-... as far, as close back to nature as they can.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

       I'm telling you-

   12. DHDan Hardy1:00:33

       They must be-

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:33

       ... hell yeah.

   14. DHDan Hardy1:00:33

       ... tuning back into something that, that we're lacking. I always feel that, like that. I wanna get closer to that resonance. And I do feel like, like th- this study with the, the monkeys on the islands, the archipelago, and they drop sweet potatoes in the sand. Have you, have you heard this?

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

       I think so, but go ahead.

   16. DHDan Hardy1:00:48

       So, they, they drop sweet potatoes in... S- I, I mean, I'm... This is just a, a gathering of, of what I remember from reading the study. But there was a, a series of islands, all with the same species of monkey on the islands. They dropped sweet potatoes into the sand on one island, and the monkeys went over and bit into them. And because they were covered in sand, they spat them out and left them. Some of the younger monkeys realized that if they took them into the sea, they could wash the sand off and then they could eat the sweet potatoes. And then when they dropped the sweet potatoes onto the successive islands, they'd already knew to wash them in the sea.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:19

       Oh, right. So, that's very similar to the Rupert Sheldrake thing.

   18. DHDan Hardy1:01:23

       Mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:23

       That's really interesting.

   20. DHDan Hardy1:01:24

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:25

       Yeah, I really wonder, I mean, I really wonder how much, like, the human race benefits from the collective knowledge of everyone involved, not just through the internet and books and, and universities, but maybe even just through consciousness. Like, maybe there's some element of it that's being relayed through consciousness.

   22. DHDan Hardy1:01:43

       Mm-hmm. See, I'm invested in it because if I have an idea, I automatically think that that idea is now available to everybody else.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:49

       Hmm.

   24. DHDan Hardy1:01:49

       So, I need to jump on that shit pretty quick. So, I use it as, like, you know-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:53

       Oh, yeah.

   26. DHDan Hardy1:01:53

       ... a way of motivating myself.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:54

       Yeah. For sure, right? And if you, you know, if you have an idea, do you ever wonder where it's coming from?

   28. DHDan Hardy1:02:01

       Hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:02:02

       Like, where, where-

   30. DHDan Hardy1:02:03

       All the time.

Episode duration: 3:06:20