JRE MMA Show #84 with Brendan Schaub

Joe Rogan 0:10 (sipping) There's a lot of shit on this table.

Brendan Schaub 0:12 Yeah. This, this table's ridiculous. I'm a mess and m- this table's reflecting of the busyness of my life right now. I need to take some time and clean this fucking table. But the thing is, man, people keep bringing me shit, like Paul Stamet-

Joe Rogan 0:23 But it's all cool shit.

Brendan Schaub 0:24 Paul, I love you buddy, but you gave me a mushroom hat. This hat is made out of-

Joe Rogan 0:27 Please put that on. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 0:28 Yes, I'll put this on. (laughs) Wait, I don't know which ... Is this the way to wear it?

Narrator 0:32 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 0:32 Like this way?

Joe Rogan 0:33 Yeah, I think so. (laughs) Let me ...

Narrator 0:35 Yep.

Joe Rogan 0:35 (laughs) That's fucking great.

Brendan Schaub 0:37 So people keep giving me cool shit.

Joe Rogan 0:39 Yeah. You also g-

Brendan Schaub 0:39 They also gave me this mushroom. It's a dried mushroom. People give me all this cool shit and so I go, "Oh thank you." And then I don't know where to put it.

Joe Rogan 0:46 You set it down.

Brendan Schaub 0:47 I got, uh, Dan Aykroyd's vodka in the corner there, a cool skull vodka thing.

Joe Rogan 0:51 Got it. I've never seen-

Brendan Schaub 0:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:52 ... someone push vodka so hard on a podcast. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 0:54 Bro, he goes hard in the paint with his vodka sales.

Joe Rogan 0:56 Great promotion. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 0:57 It's very smooth and it's Dan Aykroyd, so you're like, "I'll buy it just to l- I wanna hear you talk."

Joe Rogan 1:01 The Blues Brother? I'm in, dude.

Brendan Schaub 1:03 Dude, come on, man.

Joe Rogan 1:04 I bought it. I bought it.

Brendan Schaub 1:04 He was ... He was a cone head. I mean, he's, he's one of the original Saturday Night Live slayers, like, the real OG.

Joe Rogan 1:12 Oh, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 1:12 One of The Blues Brothers!

Joe Rogan 1:14 Blues Brother.

Brendan Schaub 1:15 Yeah. Hey man, we started this podcast off talking, like, off the record and I, I thought it was probably good for everybody here, like, when ... I'm so happy you're not fighting, you know?

Joe Rogan 1:25 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 1:25 And what d- what we were saying was that I know that I was a dick to you to get you to stop doing it, but I felt sc- I felt like home- there was almost no other way that you were gonna let ... I felt like (sighs) I felt scared. I've seen too many people that are just ... There's this, there's a moment (snaps fingers) where it changes, where they stop being that person, and they keep fighting, and you see it. You see the deterioration and no one steps in and no one stops them, and then I talk ... You'll talk to them alone, man. Maybe you run into them in Vegas. Maybe you both have a couple of drinks and you see each other at the bar and you're like, "Hey, how's things?" And you have these conversations and then the reality sets in. Things are not good for a lot of these guys. A lot of these guys that have taken punishment for too long, there's no bringing them back, man. They get to this spot where you know, everyone knows there's something wrong and no one says anything to them. And I was real scared that that was gonna happen to you. I was real scared, you know? Like I didn't anticipate ... When we did that crazy podcast that wound up being, you know, this, like, intervention, I didn't even know I was gonna do it. But while it was happening I was like, "I ... This ... You gotta stop." That's all I was thinking is, "You gotta get ou-" I was ... 'Cause, but, we were a little high. You were ...

Joe Rogan 2:44 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 2:44 We were, we're ... But we're ... I found, I don't even remember if we were drinking but we probably were. But I remember that, being so sensitive to it, like, "This ... There's something has to be done, like now." You gotta, you, you had so many other possibilities that there's, if ... Like, most guys that are all in on fighting, they don't have anything on the side. Like there's almost nothing else there.

Joe Rogan 3:04 No.

Brendan Schaub 3:04 There's almost just fighting and maybe a family, right?

Joe Rogan 3:06 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 3:07 But you were, you were starting to flourish. You were hilarious on podcast. What ... You know, that can go away.

Joe Rogan 3:15 Me and guys become shells and, man, I ... (clears throat) I-

Brendan Schaub 3:18 You see it, right?

Joe Rogan 3:19 Yeah, oh, dude.

Brendan Schaub 3:20 Now that you're out, you, you see it, right?

Joe Rogan 3:23 (sighs) Yeah, thank, thank God or whoever's up there, man, for you and Brian Callan. Thank fucking God, man.

Brendan Schaub 3:29 I know it came out dicky. I know it did and I, um, I know, I know I apologized then and I apologize now. I was just scared, man.

Joe Rogan 3:34 But I think that's the only way you could do it, you know, like, that's ... Nope.

Brendan Schaub 3:37 I knew you weren't gonna listen. I knew you, you had this pride, like you were ... You were, look, we were talking about before the show, you were a top 10 professional heavyweight in the biggest organization in the world. That's a, that's a identity thing too, man. That, like, you, you ... People get strapped into that identity. That's one of the harder things about fighters is when you quit, you, you have to find meaning in your life. Like, what did, what are you good at now? Because, dude, for me, I know I, I never did anything professionally but it was the formative stages of my life where the only thing that gave me any feelings of good was martial arts. It was the-

Joe Rogan 4:11 You didn't feel like a loser?

Brendan Schaub 4:12 The only thing.

Joe Rogan 4:13 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 4:13 The only thing. Everything else, I felt, even the st- I was kinda good at drawing but even then I was like, I, my drawing teacher didn't like me, I had friends that I was, uh, close with in the class, we all drew and we liked our stuff, but, man, I felt like a fucking loser except for martial arts. So when I quit and then I'm just doing comedy and I suck at comedy, I was eating shit (slaps table) and I was like, "What am I quitting for? Like, I'm qui- I'm quitting something that I was good at to be something that I suck at that I maybe think I have this pipe dream that I could eventually make a living out of?" I remember that feeling of not having an identity and obviously when you're 21 no one has an identity anyway, you're always so-

Joe Rogan 4:50 No, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 4:50 ... you're so fucking confused.

Joe Rogan 4:51 You're in your head, you're trying to figure it out.

Brendan Schaub 4:54 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 4:54 I was super fortunate where I was surrounded by guys like you, Callan, Burt, Tom, and it's just like, where the ... I wanted to be in that party. I was, I was so fortunate, I could ... The stars aligned for me where I was at this party over here and guys were getting CT and, you know, you're fighting and it's fucking grind and then you guys were over here. I'm like, "Well I wanna be one of them. I'm, I'm good, man. I'm good, I wanna do that."

Brendan Schaub 5:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:18 And I think it took that bridging that gap, you ... And to be honest I, I think that would, that's the only way that you could've done it because, uh, the, the ego that I had at the time, especially fighting, man, getting to that level, it was like, that ego's insane. The narcissist and the, the, the dream of, "Oh, I can beat Cain or Stipe, these guys." And I (clears throat) I think the only way that I could've bridged that gap is by you going so hard in the paint, you know?

Brendan Schaub 5:44 Dude, I was so scared about Ngannou. I was so scared they were gonna fight you with Ngannou or someone (claps hands) like that. You know what I mean? (sighs) I was so scared you were gonna get murked by some, some ... When you weren't all in anymore, you know?

Joe Rogan 5:58 Yes.

Brendan Schaub 5:58 Those big fucking ... When you watch, like, when, when, uh, Francis murked Overeem.... with that left hook. That uppercut. Jesus Christ. Like, if that was you- Oh my gosh. And I was calling that fight, man. Oh, dude. It would be v- and I love Alistair, he's a great guy. Yeah. I have a deep appreciation for him as a fighter. Hullabaloo. I mean, I'm, um, yeah, and my, my feeling was when he came over as K-1 Grand Prix champion, I'm like, "This is the most celebrated striker we've ever had in MMA." And you saw it in his fight with Brock Lesnar. Phenomenal. Dude, he, people,

Brendan Schaub 6:28 man, that, one of the things that makes that Francis-KO so fucking crazy. Insane. I mean, this, he did the same thing to Junior dos Santos, remember? Overeem did it. Yep. He hit him with a beautiful left hook s- very similar punch. Super worried about that with you, man. But, but I also, I also think too, for me, it was like this quick, uh, ascension into, into this UFC, and I'm, and I'm fighting these top 10, top 15 guys, I'm in this, I'm in this world, but it's like it, I was almost like a cheat code because I was really athletic. I was really, really athletic with my background, so I, I got, I passed a lot of guys fast with my athleticism. But then you get to a certain point where you're fighting these vets, where they've f- they've fought big powerful athletic guys before. Yeah. But then it comes down to experience and technique, and that's always, always gonna win. Nine times out of 10, that's always gonna win. The thing is about striking too, is like striking when you mix in with wrestling, you can kind of get away with a lot more. A lot more crazy shit happens. People knock people out that maybe wouldn't knock people out normally. You know, like, f- Kevin Randleman was an amazing example of that. He knocked out Mirko Cro Cop with a left hook, remember that? Yep, yep. Now, if they were in a straight kickboxing match, it's definitely possible that Kevin could do that. Kevin was an incredible athlete. But you would favor, heavily, that Mirko would be able to stuff that. All day. All day, most likely, because he was so elite in that realm. But you add striking to MMA and, you know, there's like, there's so much craziness going on that sometimes it's hard for people to clearly establish, like, who's actually better on their feet until someone can stop the craziness. You know, there's a blurred lines. Yeah, and then you get to this level, there's this level where you get, like, a Masvidal. He's a perfect example 'cause he's so goddamn good. He's so smart and he's so technical, and he finds these openings that maybe other people don't see or maybe they can't get to where those openings are, and he finds those. So you think you're doing good, you think you're doing good, but he's waiting. He's waiting for the moment where he sees this spot that he's been looking

Brendan Schaub 8:29 at and boom- Yep. ... he cracks Darren Till with that step-in left hook and puts him out. Vomitable. You put a fucking animal like Darren Till- Agreed. ... out cold, come on, man. I, I, I think Jon's one of those guys too. Yes. Like, we kind of, because of his last few opponents, everyone's like, "God, maybe he's old or he's lost a step." Not me. No. I watch and I go, "Oh, he's playing with his food." Yeah. He's playing with his food and it's not, I'm not disrespecting those guys who he's fought or Dominick Reyes, who he's gonna fight. But for Jon, you look at his legacy and the legends that he's fought, it's tough for him to get up for the challenge. Yeah. So he's playing with his food right now. Wait- Well- Wait till he fights, I'm telling you, wait till he goes to heavyweight, you're gonna see the old Jon. When he, when, when there's actual, where he thinks it's a challenge. Yes. Wait till you see him fight a Stipe or Francis. You're gonna see the, the monster come out. Right now, he's just picking with his food, "Yeah, I'll do that. All right. Yeah, let's do it." I think he's- I think he's in cruise control. I think you're entirely correct, and I think when you are at that elite a level, when you've never been defeated, you have one loss, it's a bullshit loss, everybody knows it's a bullshit loss, he j- really should get his record cleaned. That should be something the U- I mean, they cleared him with this whole picogram shit. They found out that this is, we just have this new ability to measure substances in the most minuscule amounts that it's so ridiculous that just some random sort of, uh, vitamin that has some contaminant one, one millionth of a fucking gram or whatever the hell it is- Water or a dick pill or protein, whatever the fuck you're eating. All kinds of shit tests positive that's not a drug, it's not like someone's cheating. It's just... So they cleared him on that, right? USADA makes this whole statement about the, the new way they're viewing this stuff because the fact their equipment's just amazing. You can't hide from them anymore, man. Shout out to USADA though. Yes, shout out. I l- I like that USADA went, "Yeah, it's so good- It's ridiculous. ... you guys are flagging." Yes. "We're gonna back off." Yep, and they did the same- I like that they learned from it. I love it. I love that they did the same with marijuana. They realized, like, we, we're not dealing with an, a performance enhancer. As long as these guys aren't fighting high- Yeah. ... this is just like he- helping them sleep and relax. It's not hurting, it's not helping anybody in terms of, it's like, it's not making them stronger or faster. (laughs) So the, and it might help them with anxiety and a lot of other things, so they, they released that, right? They're doing good things. But with Jon, it's cleared that he, he wasn't taking anything. Yes. This is just some, some shit that's a residual, uh, like, a residue that's on something else, some contaminated supplement. Same thing what happened with Tim Means. Tim Means got busted the same way. They, I mean, they dragged it out with him for months- It was a lot of guys. Yeah. ... when he was at his peak, really. I know, man. When he was peaking in the UFC and he was- It's fucked now. ... one, one of the most interesting welterweights. All of the sudden, boom, he gets a suspension from t- tainted supplements. You look at the guy, he's not a fucking steroid user. Dude, how about Tom Lawler? Yes, yes. Law- kind of lost his career. Josh Barnett. I know, same thing. And, uh, people are upset, but if you're USADA, you're like, "We don't know what to tell you, dude." Yes. Like, "We're trying to move forward and get better." Right. It sucks for those guys and I, I feel so terrible for those guys. But if you're USADA, you're like, "Our bad, we learn though, man. There's nothing you can do." The, the thing is USADA has a long career, you know? When you got a guy like Tim Means or a guy like Josh Barnett, there's a window. Well, Josh has had an extremely long window, obviously, youngest ever UFC heavyweight champion. The longest, yeah. Um, but that extremely long window, I mean, it's gonna come to a close, and they took away a, a large chunk of it- I know, it's a shame. ... for something that turned out to not be accurate. But-... they're gonna last a long time. With these guys, like, uh, they say that, like, at their peak, the best fighters have nine years at their peak.

Joe Rogan 11:44 God, that's a long time.

Brendan Schaub 11:45 It's a long time. The only guys who really hit that nine-year stride at peak form, I think is, like, Anderson, Fedor. There's, like, a few, like, real legends. GSP, obviously. GSP-

Joe Rogan 11:55 GSP. Jon.

Brendan Schaub 11:56 Jon, obviously. Right? Jon is, uh, undefeated right now. I mean, h- they took his title away, wins it back, right? He's never, never lost a title fight and you're dealing with... The guy wins the title, youngest ever in the sport, flying knee opener on Shogun. Had a... Just nothing but success since then. People are, like, inspecting him with a microscope, ex- expecting him to fall off. Like, you're dealing with the GOAT, man.

Joe Rogan 12:20 It's hilarious.

Brendan Schaub 12:21 He's the GOAT.

Joe Rogan 12:21 And e- even after the Santos fight, I'm like, "Oh, and Santos had one leg?" So I went back and watched Jon Jones fight and you watch, you're like, "Oh, he's in... He couldn't give two fucks about being in there right now."

Brendan Schaub 12:31 Well, he was smart too, because that guy-

Joe Rogan 12:32 He's smart and he's calculated.

Brendan Schaub 12:34 ... was dangerous.

Joe Rogan 12:34 It's dangerous, but at the same time, he coulda took him down.

Brendan Schaub 12:36 Yes.

Joe Rogan 12:36 His coach is like, "Dude."

Brendan Schaub 12:38 True.

Joe Rogan 12:38 I'm talking to his manager, like, "We were like, 'Dude, take him down.' He's like, 'Nah, I'm- I'm just gonna stay in this.'"

Brendan Schaub 12:43 Right. Right. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:43 And he won. It's hard for him to, to... 'Cause you look at the resume of guys he's beat and then they're like... Again, it's not a knock on Dominic Grace, it's not a knock on Corey Anderson or, uh, uh, Anthony Smith, but you're like, "Here's Anthony Smith." And Jon's like, "All right. Yeah, let's do it, man." So, it... You know, that... He's fucking with his food right now.

Brendan Schaub 13:01 Well, he's so good, but he's still able to fight out... Like, the Gustafsson fight, the early one, the first one, was a perfect example of him falling into a trap, right? Partying too hard, didn't train.

Joe Rogan 13:13 Trained for two weeks, sir.

Brendan Schaub 13:14 Barely, right?

Joe Rogan 13:15 Barely.

Brendan Schaub 13:15 E- everyone in camp was like... They were, like, saying, "What? What do we do here?" He goes out and guts it out. Wins in the stretch, wins down the stretch, like he had to be pushed-

Joe Rogan 13:25 A war.

Brendan Schaub 13:25 ... to win down the stretch, right?

Joe Rogan 13:26 Then it comes back-

Brendan Schaub 13:27 And I trained with Gusman for that fight and I'm talking the best I've ever seen in the training room.

Joe Rogan 13:32 I was like-

Brendan Schaub 13:32 Hard to imagine.

Joe Rogan 13:33 ... "Oh, this guy's never gonna lose."

Brendan Schaub 13:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:35 "Oh, he's the best I've ever seen." He would spar five rounds with me, then jump in with a heavyweight professional boxer and fuck him up, five, five, five, five... Beat the fuck out of me and I'm like, "Wha... He's never gonna lose." Jon didn't... You don't understand.

Brendan Schaub 13:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:50 Didn't train-

Brendan Schaub 13:51 Didn't train.

Joe Rogan 13:51 ... went the distance and beat that man.

Brendan Schaub 13:54 And won down the stretch. Won down the stretch, gutted it out.

Joe Rogan 13:57 That's... And Gusman's the best light heavyweight of all time if he was in a different era and there's no DC or Jon Jones. He's the GOAT.

Brendan Schaub 14:04 Th- he... But you can't say that. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:05 I'm just saying he's... (laughs) That's how good he is. He's the GOAT if those two fucking guys aren't there.

Brendan Schaub 14:09 Yeah, you're right. He was this close to being the GOAT of them.

Joe Rogan 14:11 He was this close to being both of them.

Brendan Schaub 14:11 Right, he could-

Joe Rogan 14:12 This fucking close, dude.

Brendan Schaub 14:13 He could with the first fight.

Joe Rogan 14:15 Yes.

Brendan Schaub 14:15 But then the second fight, Jon just runs him over.

Joe Rogan 14:17 'Cause Jon took it serious-

Brendan Schaub 14:18 Took it very seriously and wanted to prove a point.

Joe Rogan 14:20 ... and went, "Oh, he's good." Check this out.

Brendan Schaub 14:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:22 How about the DC fight? "All right, beat you in decision, that's cool."

Brendan Schaub 14:25 Head kick.

Joe Rogan 14:25 Run it back.

Brendan Schaub 14:26 Boom, KO.

Joe Rogan 14:27 Head kick.

Brendan Schaub 14:28 Yeah. And o- not just a head kick, but a head kick on the side where DC said, "You're not gonna trick me into leaning towards my right while you could hit me with that left kick." Like, they actually had a conversation about it.

Joe Rogan 14:38 The GOAT.

Brendan Schaub 14:39 And he still hit him with that.

Joe Rogan 14:39 Here's what's interesting about this, is light heavyweight is so... I wish, I just wish Jon would dip out and be like, "You guys do your thing. Build the division up and then-"

Brendan Schaub 14:46 No, no, no, no, no, no. I like what he's doing.

Joe Rogan 14:48 Uh, well, no. He's defending it, sure, but here's, here's the thing. He, he's not stimulated by that. He's talking shit to the middleweight champion of the world.

Brendan Schaub 14:57 Well-

Joe Rogan 14:57 He's busy talking shit to Izzy.

Brendan Schaub 14:58 Israel's talking shit to him too. That's, uh... They're having a lot of fun together.

Joe Rogan 15:01 It's entertaining, though.

Brendan Schaub 15:01 Yeah, they're having a lot of fun. But, uh, listen, ultimately I think it's good for everybody. I think that's... That, that little feud between Izzy and Jon Jones, first of all, it elevates-

Joe Rogan 15:10 It's fantastic.

Brendan Schaub 15:10 ... Izzy because all these people that didn't know who he was, like, "Why is Jon Jones talking shit to... Oh, look at this motherfu- Holy shit-"

Joe Rogan 15:17 "He's bad."

Brendan Schaub 15:17 "... he's good." And then they watch his fights and go, "This is why Jon Jones is talking shit to him, 'cause he starched Robert Whittaker, basically the end of the first round, the fight was over."

Joe Rogan 15:25 Over.

Brendan Schaub 15:25 I mean, Robert Whittaker was Fucks-ville and then he-

Joe Rogan 15:27 And he's, and he stops good on the mic.

Brendan Schaub 15:28 ... he stops good on the second. Dude, he's good.

Joe Rogan 15:29 And his, and his social media, he's, he's lighting him up there.

Brendan Schaub 15:31 He's good everywhere. He's good everywhere.

Joe Rogan 15:32 How about this?

Brendan Schaub 15:33 And he's a great guy.

Joe Rogan 15:34 The best. I fucking love him.

Brendan Schaub 15:35 He's a really great guy.

Joe Rogan 15:36 Love him. Love him.

Brendan Schaub 15:37 And honest as fuck, dude.

Joe Rogan 15:38 You know he bought a McLaren 720S?

Brendan Schaub 15:40 Yes, he did.

Joe Rogan 15:40 When he told me that I went, "Dude."

Brendan Schaub 15:42 Yes, he did.

Joe Rogan 15:42 I gave him a hug. I was so excited for him. I thought it was a car guy. He goes, "I gotta be honest, man, I just bought it 'cause it looked like this anime character." I went...

Brendan Schaub 15:48 (screams) He's in the anime.

Joe Rogan 15:49 "All right, we got the right car."

Brendan Schaub 15:51 D- is it on the right side? I... When I know a car is awesome, but it's got a steering wheel on the wrong side, I'm like, "Ugh."

Joe Rogan 15:56 I know.

Brendan Schaub 15:57 "Get that thing away from me."

Joe Rogan 15:58 Like, "Goddam, what are you doing, dude?"

Brendan Schaub 15:59 (laughs) I saw this incredible Porsche they had, like this 1972 RS, but it had the steering wheel on the right-hand side. I'm like, "Get outta here with that garbage."

Joe Rogan 16:07 You get this fake shit out of here.

Brendan Schaub 16:09 "What is this?"

Joe Rogan 16:09 I know, dude.

Brendan Schaub 16:09 "Your steering wheel's on the wrong side."

Joe Rogan 16:11 What's crazy is, uh, Izzy told me they actually offered the fight to him already.

Brendan Schaub 16:15 (exhales)

Joe Rogan 16:16 Do you know that?

Brendan Schaub 16:17 Jesus.

Joe Rogan 16:17 And he went-

Brendan Schaub 16:18 He's smart.

Joe Rogan 16:18 He's smart 'cause he went, "Oh, no, no, you're not gonna Canelo me, Floyd Mayweather Canelo me."

Brendan Schaub 16:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:22 "You're trying to get me while I'm really young in the game."

Brendan Schaub 16:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:24 "No, no, no. We're doing two years."

Brendan Schaub 16:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:26 "We're doing two years in Vegas."

Brendan Schaub 16:28 Yeah. Look at Izzy.

Joe Rogan 16:29 Look at him.

Brendan Schaub 16:29 Look at that car.

Joe Rogan 16:30 720S.

Brendan Schaub 16:31 Oh. That's a beautiful car, man.

Joe Rogan 16:32 That thing's a demon.

Brendan Schaub 16:33 I saw one the other day. They sound good too.

Joe Rogan 16:36 It's a spaceship inside.

Brendan Schaub 16:37 Mm, they're beautiful, man. That's a beautiful car.

Joe Rogan 16:40 It's a great fucking car.

Brendan Schaub 16:41 He's special, man. I think he's gonna be the next big superstar, I really do.

Joe Rogan 16:44 Me too.

Brendan Schaub 16:44 He's got everything going for him.

Joe Rogan 16:46 Checks all the boxes.

Brendan Schaub 16:47 Spectacular talent, great personality. He's fun. I mean, he, he fights with as much skill as we've ever seen a striker. I mean, he's Anderson Silva 2.0. He really is, man. His striking is out of this fucking world, man.

Joe Rogan 16:59 But he has all the skills Anderson had, but he's amazing on the mic.

Brendan Schaub 17:03 Yes.

Joe Rogan 17:03 Anderson was terrible on the mic.

Brendan Schaub 17:04 Well, you know, he's both Portuguese-

Joe Rogan 17:05 He's got a high-pitched voice.

Brendan Schaub 17:07 ... and kind of fun of it, though.

Joe Rogan 17:08 It was like... That was almost like, "Well, don't talk." (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 17:10 (laughs) But he was so good it didn't matter.

Joe Rogan 17:12 Agree.

Brendan Schaub 17:13 Like, Anderson was so good, it didn't matter if we didn't understand what he said. Everybody loved him, man.

Joe Rogan 17:18 'Cause he was, it was like-

Brendan Schaub 17:19 Dude.

Joe Rogan 17:19 He was the GOAT at the time. Also, y- but also, the, the game's different. Now it's so much of a spectra, like entertainment-

Brendan Schaub 17:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:25 ... where, A- Anderson would still be Anderson, but it was different back then. We were more appreciative of those guys-

Brendan Schaub 17:31 Yes.

Joe Rogan 17:32 ... 'cause we, I feel like... I don't know, maybe the fan base understood the sport more? 'Cause like GSP was huge, not a great shit-talker. Anderson Silva, not a great shit-talker.

Brendan Schaub 17:40 Right.

Joe Rogan 17:40 Like, we loved those guys.

Brendan Schaub 17:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:42 Cain Velasquez, terrible talker.

Brendan Schaub 17:43 Never talked shit, ever.

Joe Rogan 17:44 But those were-

Brendan Schaub 17:45 Just ran people over.

Joe Rogan 17:45 Those were the big boys.

Brendan Schaub 17:47 Yep, yep. GSP is a perfect example. Nothing but nice, always. Never talked shit.

Joe Rogan 17:52 ... never.

Brendan Schaub 17:52 You know, never.

Joe Rogan 17:53 Never.

Brendan Schaub 17:53 Max Holloway, I mean, Max will talk a little shit, but it's more playful.

Joe Rogan 17:57 Yeah, it's never-

Brendan Schaub 17:57 It's more like, "We'll see, we'll see."

Joe Rogan 17:59 But Stylebender really doesn't talk shit unless you initiate it.

Brendan Schaub 18:03 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:03 If you initiate it, game, match.

Brendan Schaub 18:05 Oh, it's a, it's a devastator. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:08 (laughs) Oh, and he's good at it.

Brendan Schaub 18:09 He's good at it.

Joe Rogan 18:09 He's so ... He likes people the fuck up.

Brendan Schaub 18:11 Ugh, him and Jon Jones going back and forth is kinda fucking hilarious.

Joe Rogan 18:14 It's good for both of them.

Brendan Schaub 18:15 It's great for, for Izzy because if Jon is that concerned about him, everybody's gotta realize, like, "Oh, this guy's for real."

Joe Rogan 18:22 And I always s- I wouldn't entertain it when people would bring it up. I go, "Izzy too small, it's just a fucking... It's nothing. It's like Bigfoot."

Brendan Schaub 18:28 It's-

Joe Rogan 18:28 "We're never gonna see it. Get out of here."

Brendan Schaub 18:29 It's a big difference. There's a big size difference.

Joe Rogan 18:31 There's a big difference, but Izzy's fucking big, man.

Brendan Schaub 18:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:33 When he walked up, I've never met him before, when he walked up, I went, "Damn, dude, you are not small."

Brendan Schaub 18:38 No, but he's only about 200 or so pounds, like, 205, somewhere around that range.

Joe Rogan 18:44 He said he was 203, I think.

Brendan Schaub 18:45 Yeah, he's in that range. Jon's probably 235 right now, right? And Jon has two brothers that are elite NFL athletes.

Joe Rogan 18:53 Pro Bowlers.

Brendan Schaub 18:53 I mean, bro, he comes from fantastic genetics. I mean, he's just got super athlete family. They're just... And he's huge.

Joe Rogan 19:01 Jon's so big.

Brendan Schaub 19:01 That, that size difference is so big.

Joe Rogan 19:04 He's 6'6".

Brendan Schaub 19:04 Like, could you see Izzy as a heavyweight? I don't know if I could.

Joe Rogan 19:07 No, no. No.

Brendan Schaub 19:07 He would be overblown. It would be too hard for him to deal with the really big guys, you know?

Joe Rogan 19:11 Uh, they swear it's gonna happen, though. Izzy loves it. He's-

Brendan Schaub 19:14 He's gonna go up to heavyweight?

Joe Rogan 19:15 Yeah, he's-

Brendan Schaub 19:15 Or Jon Jones?

Joe Rogan 19:16 Uh, Izzy's gonna go up.

Brendan Schaub 19:18 He's gonna go up to heavyweight?

Joe Rogan 19:19 Yeah, he's down for what... He's like, "I don't care, man."

Brendan Schaub 19:21 He doesn't care. Well, he's so good, technically. I mean, who knows, man? Maybe he's doing specific kinds of training that keeps his body light, and maybe if he lifted weights, he would actually get better. Who the fuck knows?

Joe Rogan 19:30 The only thing that would worry m- worry me about that fight, and I'd be rooting hard for Izzy in that fight, but the only thing that worries me is Jon's wrestling.

Brendan Schaub 19:36 Oh, yeah, man.

Joe Rogan 19:36 You forget how good... Remember he took down DC in Olympics.

Brendan Schaub 19:39 Yes. He did. He wanted to make a point, first round.

Joe Rogan 19:42 So if he wants to play that game-

Brendan Schaub 19:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:44 ... he can play it.

Brendan Schaub 19:45 But Jon can do everything. And when he's... What he does, one thing that he does better than anybody that's ever, ever fought, utilize distance. He utilizes distance better than anybody. He's the very best at keeping you here. And a lot of people accuse him of poking people in the eyes. There have been some incidents. I don't think he's doing it on purpose. I think... And I, I agree with you, he shouldn't do it, he should close his fist. But what I'm saying is, the way his style is, he keeps you out here and then bang, keeps you out here, bang-

Joe Rogan 20:13 Yeah, it's a distance fever.

Brendan Schaub 20:13 ... side kick to the leg, oblique kick-

Joe Rogan 20:15 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 20:16 ... leg kick, pops you with a jab, hits you with a knee, keeps you here, keeps you here.

Joe Rogan 20:20 He's our Santanas, really.

Brendan Schaub 20:21 Yeah. Dude's just-

Joe Rogan 20:22 He's feeling out like a snake's tongue.

Brendan Schaub 20:23 Yeah, he's got space, like-

Joe Rogan 20:25 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 20:25 ... this much space where he could fuck you up, but you can't hit him.

Joe Rogan 20:29 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 20:29 He's got this sp- 'Cause he's, he's also, he's so comfortable in world championship fights. He's had nothing but world championship fights.

Joe Rogan 20:36 That's all he knows.

Brendan Schaub 20:37 Yes. So when you're at the top of the food chain with the bright lights, main event, and you're like, "Holy shit, this is the big one." Jon's like, "This is a fight." Uh, all his fights-

Joe Rogan 20:45 Another day, in the office.

Brendan Schaub 20:47 ... are like this. That's how Tyson was when Tyson was crushing people. That's how Anderson was when Anderson was crushing people.

Joe Rogan 20:52 They thrive in the lights.

Brendan Schaub 20:53 And, and they get to this point where you're, you have to be so much better to beat them because you're shitting your pants going in, you're compromised, and you're fighting a guy who's at the peak. He's in the zone. I mean, Anderson, like, when he fought Stephan Bonnar in Brazil-

Joe Rogan 21:07 Oh, my God.

Brendan Schaub 21:07 ... you remember that shit, dude? He was in the zone, man. When he fucked up Forrest Griffin-

Joe Rogan 21:12 Ugh.

Brendan Schaub 21:12 ... he was in the zone. There was this zone where Anderson was... When he front kicked Vitor in the face.

Joe Rogan 21:16 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 21:16 There was Anderson for a few years that was like, "Holy shit."

Joe Rogan 21:20 Holy shit. Holy fuck. People forget.

Brendan Schaub 21:21 It's hard... We people forget. It's hard when you look at it retroactively, you gotta go back and understand the times we were living in. We're talking about 2005, 2006, right?

Joe Rogan 21:29 Do you remember when he first came on? Like, we knew of him in Pride. If you were hardcore, you knew of him in Pride.

Brendan Schaub 21:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:34 But you didn't know, like, how good he is. And then they go, "Hey, Chris Leben, we got something for you." And Chris Leben goes, "I'll fight him."

Brendan Schaub 21:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:40 And Chris Leben had that noggin, that head, so he could take punches.

Brendan Schaub 21:44 Dude.

Joe Rogan 21:45 And s- fucking Anderson Silva lit that dude up. You were like, "What the fuck is happening right now?"

Brendan Schaub 21:51 I have friends that bet on fights and that was one of them that I said-

Joe Rogan 21:53 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 21:53 ... "Listen to me, bet the house on the Brazilian."

Joe Rogan 21:56 Dude.

Brendan Schaub 21:56 I mean, bet the house. And then show the video-

Joe Rogan 22:00 How about he showed him time?

Brendan Schaub 22:00 How about he was gonna stop quick?

Joe Rogan 22:00 And big Nog was like, "No, you gotta keep going, dude."

Brendan Schaub 22:03 Crazy, he was, he was fighting over in Cage Warriors, I remember when he fought, uh, Jorge Rivera in Cage Warriors and let Jorge punch him in the face.

Joe Rogan 22:09 Oh, that's right, with his hands tied.

Brendan Schaub 22:10 Let him, stood right in front of him.

Joe Rogan 22:11 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 22:11 Let him punch him in the face. Let him punch him in the face. Then he smiles at him and kicks his ass and stops him. Dude, he fucked everybody up over there. Remember when he fucked up Lee Murray?

Joe Rogan 22:20 Oh, my God, dude.

Brendan Schaub 22:20 Back when Lee Murray was murking people with one punch.

Joe Rogan 22:23 People forget, too.

Brendan Schaub 22:24 Whoo, Lee Murray can crack.

Joe Rogan 22:24 Lee Murray was problems, man. Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 22:26 That guy could crack.

Joe Rogan 22:28 Rob a bank for a year.

Brendan Schaub 22:28 Horrible. Yeah, rob a lot of banks.

Joe Rogan 22:30 Hell yeah. Shout out to Lee Murray.

Brendan Schaub 22:31 Did the big-

Joe Rogan 22:31 Is he out yet?

Brendan Schaub 22:32 No, jail for life, son.

Joe Rogan 22:34 Oh, they gave him life?

Brendan Schaub 22:35 Oh, he's gonna be in there forever. They don't even know where the money is.

Joe Rogan 22:38 Ugh.

Brendan Schaub 22:38 They're missing, like, $50 million. It's a goddamn Guy Ritchie movie.

Joe Rogan 22:41 I know.

Brendan Schaub 22:42 Isn't Guy Ritchie making a movie about that?

Joe Rogan 22:44 On Lee Murray?

Brendan Schaub 22:45 Uh, let's see. Here's a little thought. People don't know, Lee Murray came into prominence because he got in a street fight with Tito Ortiz.

Joe Rogan 22:51 And Chuck Liddell was there.

Brendan Schaub 22:53 But Chuck didn't fight him, though, right? With Tito, actually, it's like-

Joe Rogan 22:55 Chuck was fighting with other friends.

Brendan Schaub 22:56 Oh.

Joe Rogan 22:57 But the rumor is, is Lee Murray starched Tito.

Brendan Schaub 23:01 Well, the rumor was that he hit him.

Joe Rogan 23:04 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 23:04 I knew that he hit him, but I think Tito had... I'm not making excuses for anybody, but I think what I heard was Tito had, like, dress shoes on, like, slippery-ass dress shoes.

Joe Rogan 23:11 If you ask the tr- If you... I talked to Chuck about it and he goes, "His... No one got knocked out. It was a scuffle and then we separated." He goes-

Brendan Schaub 23:17 Yeah, that's what I heard.

Joe Rogan 23:17 "Chuck hates Tito," he goes, "but I'm not gonna-"

Brendan Schaub 23:19 Right.

Joe Rogan 23:19 "... spread the rumor." He didn't get knocked out.

Brendan Schaub 23:21 No, I heard he got punched.

Joe Rogan 23:22 Tito's fighting-

Brendan Schaub 23:23 But w-

Joe Rogan 23:23 ... this weekend, by the way.

Brendan Schaub 23:24 Yeah, who's he fighting?

Joe Rogan 23:25 Some guy who got... W- wore a mask and got destroyed by Cro Cop.

Brendan Schaub 23:29 Oh, that guy?

Joe Rogan 23:30 That guy. Remember, like, in Pride?

Brendan Schaub 23:31 Yeah, the blood came dripping down-

Joe Rogan 23:31 He was like, "I'll try it out, but I'm gonna wear a mask." (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 23:34 ... under the mask. Dude, it's like a movie.

Joe Rogan 23:35 Like, uh, it's a horror movie. It was a horror movie.

Brendan Schaub 23:37 Get that Dos Carros, go get the KO from Mirko Cro Cop versus Dos Carros. Mirko hits him with left kick cemetery right to the fucking dome. And when the dude goes out, as he slumps, blood is dripping out of the inside of the mask across his eyes.

Joe Rogan 23:53 It's a horror movie.

Brendan Schaub 23:54 But it's like, if you were gonna s- if Tarantino was gonna film this...

Joe Rogan 23:57 You'd be like, "Come on, bro."

Brendan Schaub 23:57 He'd be like, "Come on, the blood's dripping down."

Joe Rogan 23:59 "Dude, come out of the mask."

Brendan Schaub 23:59 "Get out of here. Watch this." It's fucking... First of all-... the Japanese people are so mean.

Joe Rogan 24:04 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 24:05 The, here it is, it's right when he gets him up against the, the corner is when he lands this. Let it, let it roll here a little bit. He cracks him a few times, just to let him know, "Bro-

Joe Rogan 24:12 This guy's a wrestler, by the way.

Brendan Schaub 24:13 ... you're making a huge mistake. You fucked up so bad." 'Cause this guy has no business being in there. And Mirko, at the time-

Joe Rogan 24:20 Oh, dude.

Brendan Schaub 24:20 ... is the peak. He's the best kickboxer we had ever seen in the sport b- at that time, in the heavyweight division. This was like, Alistair was still not Alistair back then, you know? He hadn't made it. Mirko was the first. He was the first real-

Joe Rogan 24:32 (sighs)

Brendan Schaub 24:32 ... K-1 superstar because he was explosive. Like, a lot of the guys like Ernesto Hoost or maybe Peter Aerts, they maybe wouldn't have made the transition the way Mirko did. Mirko was like, "Boom!"

Joe Rogan 24:41 Oh.

Brendan Schaub 24:42 "Look at that, son. One shot, bang!"

Joe Rogan 24:43 Oh.

Brendan Schaub 24:43 Now watch when they close up on him. Watch-

Joe Rogan 24:46 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 24:46 Watch when they close in on him and you see the blood. Come on, bitch, where's the blood?

Joe Rogan 24:48 He tried, he tried to take the mask off?

Brendan Schaub 24:49 Oh!

Joe Rogan 24:51 Oh!

Brendan Schaub 24:51 It's edited out, these fucks.

Joe Rogan 24:54 Yeah, they tried to rip the mask off in time, but they don't get it.

Brendan Schaub 24:55 See if you can find Dos Carros... Boy, I hope I didn't make out the blood part. I don't think I did. I think it definitely happened.

Joe Rogan 25:00 No, blood comes out. It's right, it's, it's when they're trying to get it off.

Brendan Schaub 25:04 Yeah, okay. So when they, they go back to the dude...

Narrator 25:07 Right here.

Brendan Schaub 25:09 Okay, there's blood, but let me see where the blood comes out of. They, don't they show it dripping? Maybe I saw it on a photo. It's harder-

Joe Rogan 25:15 No, I remember seeing it too.

Brendan Schaub 25:17 But it might be one of those things, like the Berenstain Bears?

Narrator 25:20 Right.

Brendan Schaub 25:21 Where everybody remembers it wrong?

Joe Rogan 25:22 Oh, you're right. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 25:23 (laughs) No, they got blood. There, there, there's obviously some bleeding on his head 'cause they're, they're cleaning it up. But I remember seeing him slumped and then the blood trickles down.

Joe Rogan 25:32 Hey, what the fuck-

Brendan Schaub 25:32 Go back and-

Joe Rogan 25:32 ... was that guy thinking fighting Mi- I had that trip

Narrator 25:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:35 ... my head going, "What the fuck were they..."

Brendan Schaub 25:37 The Japanese don't care, they'll pay you.

Joe Rogan 25:37 But what, what was he thinking?

Brendan Schaub 25:39 Oh, man. Dudes are j- s- they, this idea, like they can just do it.

Joe Rogan 25:43 (sighs)

Brendan Schaub 25:43 "Oh, it'll be fine. Oh, what's the big deal?"

Joe Rogan 25:45 "It's Mirko Cro Cop."

Brendan Schaub 25:46 "I've been in a fight before."

Joe Rogan 25:47 Oh my God.

Brendan Schaub 25:48 Dude, you knock that guy out?

Joe Rogan 25:50 Yeah, I know. How about that, haters?

Brendan Schaub 25:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:54 (laughs) That guy we just kicked kissed his ass. Brendan knocked him out.

Brendan Schaub 25:58 Yeah, man.

Joe Rogan 26:00 He, uh, he had a, he was still doing the damn thing too.

Brendan Schaub 26:02 Bro, his KO of Wanderlei Silva-

Joe Rogan 26:05 And so he had a heart attack.

Brendan Schaub 26:05 ... is one of the most horrific in the sport.

Joe Rogan 26:07 Wow, it's bad.

Brendan Schaub 26:07 In the sport.

Joe Rogan 26:07 The best.

Brendan Schaub 26:07 Because that was two fights. It was one, his first fight with mixed martial arts rules, like modified rules. Remember, you could only go to the ground for like X amount of seconds.

Joe Rogan 26:16 Yeah, it was strange.

Brendan Schaub 26:16 They did some weird rule. And if it went to the distance, it would be a draw. So the fight went to the distance. So then after that, Mirko has a series of fights with high level competition and gets way better at sprawling. Also brings Dean Lister into his camp.

Joe Rogan 26:28 Werdum as well.

Brendan Schaub 26:29 Werdum. So he gets real comfortable with jujitsu, real comfortable with grappling. He's working with these elite guys, powerful wrestlers, the whole deal. Then they have the second fight. The second fight's in the heavyweight tournament and Wanderlei's on... Oh, the Mexican Supplements.

Joe Rogan 26:43 Ah, I love that Wanderlei.

Brendan Schaub 26:44 Woo! That's the best Wanderlei, the berserker. Go find that.

Narrator 26:48 He's doing this.

Brendan Schaub 26:48 Mirko Cro Cop versus Wanderlei Silva 2. It's a great fight and Wanderlei got bigger than Cro Cop. Wanderlei weighed, if I remember correctly, I may be wrong but I- I think I'm right, Wanderlei weighed 218 and, uh, Cro Cop weighed 214. I think Wanderlei was actually heavier.

Joe Rogan 27:03 Wanderlei of pure Brazilian steel.

Brendan Schaub 27:04 Imagine if I was right about that, if I really remember those numbers.

Joe Rogan 27:07 That'd be great. Great, great mind.

Narrator 27:09 We're sorry, we're sorry.

Brendan Schaub 27:09 Wanderlei Silva... I know we had an issue.

Joe Rogan 27:10 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 27:10 Sorry, while, while we were talking, the, was that the whole s- thing-

Narrator 27:14 No, no. I just wanted to shut off the TV myself, sorry.

Brendan Schaub 27:15 ... go down or just the TVs? Um, Wanderlei Silva versus Mirko Cro Cop 2.

Narrator 27:21 Okay.

Brendan Schaub 27:21 'Cause in that one, that one, Mirko was fully comfortable with, with MMA. He wasn't getting taken down, he knew his wanderlei wasn't arresting.

Joe Rogan 27:29 His take down offense was insane.

Brendan Schaub 27:30 And he wasn't worried about being submitted either 'cause he'd been training with Dean Lister and Fabricio Werdum, so he's just-

Joe Rogan 27:35 Smart.

Brendan Schaub 27:36 ... sending missiles.

Joe Rogan 27:37 You know, he's the one who got Werdum into Pride and into MMA.

Brendan Schaub 27:41 Really?

Joe Rogan 27:41 He, he brought Werdum in for jujitsu and then Werdum's like, "Oh, that's kind of cool."

Brendan Schaub 27:45 Wow. That's crazy. That's right.

Joe Rogan 27:48 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 27:48 That's right before Werdum fought Junior dos Santos. Remember when no one knew who dos Santos was and I think it was like a late minute substitute?

Joe Rogan 27:55 It was, yeah, late minute.

Brendan Schaub 27:56 Yeah. And Junior hit him with the upper cut. See, see this is the second fight. In the second fight, Wanderlei is facing a completely different animal because look at that, shakes him off. M- Cro Cop was physically strong as fuck, he was moving like a real MMA fighter who's also an elite kickboxer. It was a different animal.

Joe Rogan 28:14 Look how big his legs were, dude.

Brendan Schaub 28:15 Dude. You weren't submitting him. He's been rolling with Fabricio Werdum, so he, he lets him up and he's just battering Wanderlei in this fight.

Joe Rogan 28:21 Oh.

Brendan Schaub 28:21 Look at this straight left hand. Boom! Boom! I mean, before the KO, it's horrific, right? He's beating the shit out of Wanderlei.

Joe Rogan 28:28 Beating the brakes off him.

Brendan Schaub 28:29 Wanderlei is supposed to be fighting 185, that's his real weight class. He's just bulked up and you just can't hang with a guy that's this fucking good as a heavyweight. And so then Wanderlei gets up, they give him a yellow card-

Joe Rogan 28:40 Boom!

Brendan Schaub 28:41 ... kick to the body and then sets up the big high kick to the head.

Joe Rogan 28:45 (sighs)

Brendan Schaub 28:45 I mean, Wanderlei's trying, man. He's swinging, he's swinging-

Joe Rogan 28:48 The ass weather. For, he's swinging for the fences.

Brendan Schaub 28:50 He is, but dude, that fucking left kick to the forearms right there just numbed his arms. Boom!

Joe Rogan 28:54 Oh.

Brendan Schaub 28:54 And there's the head kick. Back up to the kick to the body. Back up before that.

Joe Rogan 28:57 Sets it up.

Brendan Schaub 28:58 Watch this kick to the body, dude, 'cause you see Wanderlei's arms. You know how when a dude gets shin slammed into the arms, they have this like, like... Oh, look at that one, right to the gut.

Joe Rogan 29:06 But you see him go...

Brendan Schaub 29:07 Yeah. Oh my God, dude. I mean, he's slamming, it's the, hitting forearm and gut. And here's the high kick. Boom. So you eat a couple of those to your body or to your, to your arms, your, everything just goes off. Everything is fucked up now. And then he hits him with that high kick. Woo!

Joe Rogan 29:25 Shout out to Cro Cop.

Brendan Schaub 29:26 Shout out to Cro Cop.

Joe Rogan 29:27 Right leg hospital, left leg cemetery.

Narrator 29:29 He had to say it, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 29:29 Yeah, dude. (smacks lips) But that was a, a perfect example of Pride at its peak.

Joe Rogan 29:35 You wanna know how cocky I was when I was a fighter? When we came out, you know the first thing I did? I threw a high kick at Cro Cop.

Brendan Schaub 29:41 Yeah, I know.

Joe Rogan 29:41 I threw a head kick and he blocked it and smiled. I was like, "You fucking idiot."

Brendan Schaub 29:45 (laughs)

Narrator 29:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:45 I was like, "Just wanna let you know, man."

Brendan Schaub 29:48 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:48 (laughs) Hilarious. (sighs) Dude, how about fucking Cowboy Connor?

Brendan Schaub 29:53 That's a very good fight.

Joe Rogan 29:55 It's a perfect time.

Brendan Schaub 29:55 Long time overdue, right? Perfect time for it too.

Joe Rogan 29:57 Me too. I agree.

Brendan Schaub 29:59 Because I like how Cowboy's fighting now. He's so calm and relaxed in there.

Joe Rogan 30:03 Well, he's lost his last two, but-

Brendan Schaub 30:04 Yeah, but-

Joe Rogan 30:04 ... they were to the top, you know, top of the heap.

Brendan Schaub 30:07 Yeah. I mean, he fought Gaethje who I think is-

Joe Rogan 30:09 Nightmare matchup.

Brendan Schaub 30:09 ... the scariest fucking guy in the division right now. He scares me because Gaethje's like... He's...It's like he's on a suicide mission. It's like either he's gonna go or you're gonna go, and a lot of people say that, but they don't really mean it.

Joe Rogan 30:24 Agree.

Brendan Schaub 30:24 He fucking means it.

Joe Rogan 30:26 He meant it.

Brendan Schaub 30:26 And he's backed off at that a hair, so he still controlled wildness.

Joe Rogan 30:32 If you say he's a brawler, he does not like it.

Brendan Schaub 30:34 I don't think he necessarily is.

Joe Rogan 30:36 He's not.

Brendan Schaub 30:36 I think what he is, though, he's a, just, he's wild, but it's intelligent pressure.

Joe Rogan 30:40 It's controlled chaos.

Brendan Schaub 30:41 Yes. It's beat-

Joe Rogan 30:42 And he-

Brendan Schaub 30:42 ... better than ever.

Joe Rogan 30:43 And he has a great chin.

Brendan Schaub 30:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:44 Phenomenal wrestling, knockout power.

Brendan Schaub 30:46 Having those fights where it didn't go his way because of the chaos, I think is just making him be just a little bit more calculated.

Joe Rogan 30:53 Agreed.

Brendan Schaub 30:53 Just a little bit, and that's all he needs.

Joe Rogan 30:54 More and more cerebral.

Brendan Schaub 30:55 Dude, when he fucked up Barboza, I was like, "Jesus."

Joe Rogan 30:58 Jesus Christ.

Brendan Schaub 30:58 Who does that to Barboza?

Joe Rogan 30:59 Here's the thing though, 'cause I, I thought they were... Gaethje's kinda left out in the cold with all these match-ups being announced with Khabib, Tony, Conor, Cowboy. Khabib's kinda left out where he's just like, "All right, what the fuck do we do now, man?"

Brendan Schaub 31:11 Yeah. Gaethje is a little bit left out in the cold, but not really.

Joe Rogan 31:13 Did I say Khabib or Gaethje?

Brendan Schaub 31:15 You said Gaethje, and then you said Khabib later.

Joe Rogan 31:16 Oh, right, right.

Brendan Schaub 31:16 But I know what you meant.

Joe Rogan 31:17 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 31:18 I th- Gaethje is a little bit left out, but if anybody gets injured, he's right in there. See, like, we're in this weird place where we're pretending these fights are all gonna happen. We hope. We hope and pray-

Joe Rogan 31:28 Dude, don't you dream too big.

Brendan Schaub 31:29 ... that Khabib and Tony, we hope and pray that Cowboy and Conor actually make it to the dance, but they might not make it to the dance.

Joe Rogan 31:35 It's the nature of the sport.

Brendan Schaub 31:36 So if somebody doesn't make it to the dance, guess who gets a phone call? Justin Gaethje. And, and-

Joe Rogan 31:40 Or, or Masvidal.

Brendan Schaub 31:41 Or Masvidal, but Masvidal's 170. He's 155.

Joe Rogan 31:43 Yeah, I'm saying, I'm saying for Conor.

Brendan Schaub 31:45 Oh, for Conor. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:46 'Cause that, 'cause that fight, you know Conor versus Cowboy's at welterweight?

Brendan Schaub 31:48 Yes.

Joe Rogan 31:49 Which when it was first announced, I was like, "Oh, at 55? Man, that's a tough fight for Cowboy. Slow starter. Conor's a finisher. Comes out the gates like a fucking banshee."

Brendan Schaub 31:57 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 31:57 And then my brother texts me and goes, "Man, you know it's at welterweight?" I'm like, "Why the fuck would they do that?"

Brendan Schaub 32:01 'Cause Conor doesn't wanna lose any weight.

Joe Rogan 32:03 Ugh. I don't-

Brendan Schaub 32:04 Listen, dude, I think that guy tortured himself to get down to 45 so hard, and when you looked at what he looked like when he was on the scale-

Joe Rogan 32:12 Oh.

Brendan Schaub 32:13 ... when he was flexing, he looked like a goddamn zombie.

Joe Rogan 32:15 A skeleton.

Brendan Schaub 32:15 It was horrible. So I think... You don't, nobody, you, whether he complains or not about that, nobody rides for free. You do that to your body for a couple of years, you're doing some fucking damage, and it makes it harder to lose the weight afterwards, right? So then he's going up to 55. He's, you know, he's obviously elite at 55, wins the title at 55, has the, the great rematch with Diaz at 70, right? And then comes back and fights Khabib at 55 again and gets mauled. You know, he has a fight with Cowboy, you're, you're gonna... He's really a 55-er that can fight welterweight. That's the right size for him, versus... I don't think Nate is fighting 55 in any time in the future anymore.

Joe Rogan 32:52 No. Nate-

Brendan Schaub 32:52 He's too big now.

Joe Rogan 32:53 He's too big, but m- my, my only issue with s- at 70, and I, I would assume his team decided to do it at 70, is when I look at Conor McGregor as a welterweight, is his power the same as it was at 45 and 55? Is his timing the same? His speed? Because-

Brendan Schaub 33:09 No, but he's fighting a guy who, I think in his eyes, is not really a welterweight.

Joe Rogan 33:14 You think that, oh, 55-er, 'cause he did most of his work at 55?

Brendan Schaub 33:17 'Cause he think, he, I think he thinks of Cowboy as a guy who'll fight at 170, but he's really a 55-er.

Joe Rogan 33:23 That's fair. My only issue with that is, and I'm a huge Conor McGregor fan, obviously Cerrone's a f- uh, a friend of mine, so I, I just want him to have a great fight, but it, when people were complaining about this fight, when the internet's like, "Ah, it's whatever," to me. I think it's a phenomenal fight because I think if you're a Cowboy fan, you know I always said Cowboy was too much of a company man. The UFC and Dana would go, "Cut weight, dude. Fight this fight. Do this. Turn a- quick turnaround." Right? Cowboy, the, the legend of Cowboy was born. He's jumping off fucking ships and whatever the hell.

Brendan Schaub 33:54 Right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:54 He's riding fucking bulls and whatever the fuck he was doing the week of the fight.

Brendan Schaub 33:58 Yep.

Joe Rogan 33:58 And he was ki- killing himself to make weight, and I just went, "Does it ever work out for anybody who says, who's a yes man to the UFC?" Not really. But now we've seen it's worked out for Cowboy, because this is his... You know, I, I, I don't put too much into titles anymore. Like, this is Cowboy's title shot. You got the biggest fight in the game. You're fighting Conor McGregor. You're making, you're gonna make millions of dollars. This is the golden goose. When you talk to, if you talk to Kamaru Usman, Colby Covington, Masvidal, Khabib, Tony... Maybe not those two, but if you talk to anyone, "Who do you want to fight?" Everyone says Conor, 'cause you know it's the biggest fight you can get in the game. Cowboy got it. By being... He's, he's, he's paid his dues. He's earned it. He's getting millions and millions of dollars. Win, lose, or draw, it's a good fight for Cowboy.

Brendan Schaub 34:41 I think they should make a red panties night belt.

Joe Rogan 34:43 Mm, that'd be cool.

Brendan Schaub 34:44 Whoever gets to fight Conor, you get a red panties night belt. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:47 'Cause, 'cause the belts don't, the belts, like, the belts are whatever now, you know?

Brendan Schaub 34:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:51 'Cause, 'cause, like, think about-

Brendan Schaub 34:52 Hire some, like, super hot actress to wear them for a day. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:54 Oh, dude. I would love that. And they win those. That'd be so sick.

Brendan Schaub 34:59 But, no, a belt (sighs) with, like, f- framed red panties in it.

Joe Rogan 35:03 That'd be so dope.

Brendan Schaub 35:05 I think he's... You know, Conor's calculated in his comeback, and I think this is a smart fight for him because he's not fighting someone who's too big, right? Where I feel like, you know, that was the argument about Nate, even though Nate did of course fight at 55 for a long time. He's a-

Joe Rogan 35:19 He's a big dude, man.

Brendan Schaub 35:19 ... big dude. Um, you know, and then there's some other guys that want to fight him at 170 that are real 170s. Like, Masvidal is a perfect example of that. Masvidal was a 155 for a long time, but he's not anymore. If you look at his frame, like you l- go look back when he fought, like, Michael Chiesa, which was like 2000 (inhales) (exhales) 13? 14?

Joe Rogan 35:40 14.

Brendan Schaub 35:40 Somewhere around then, right? So Masvidal back then was, like, a skinny guy, man.

Joe Rogan 35:45 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 35:45 He was rea-

Joe Rogan 35:45 Real skinny.

Brendan Schaub 35:46 He wasn't defined, you know? He-

Joe Rogan 35:48 Wasn't a man yet, almost.

Brendan Schaub 35:49 Well-

Joe Rogan 35:49 Like, he grew into his body.

Brendan Schaub 35:50 ... He, he w- was also killing himself to make 55, right?

Joe Rogan 35:53 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 35:53 And, and you can't pack on any weight, you can't put any muscle. When he went up to 170, we got to see who he really is.

Joe Rogan 35:59 See-

Brendan Schaub 35:59 I mean, we knew who he really was before. I mean, he knocked out, um, Yves Edwards in Bo-Dog fight.

Joe Rogan 36:03 Old school.

Brendan Schaub 36:03 Remember that?

Joe Rogan 36:04 Yeah, no, this was when Yves was a monster.

Brendan Schaub 36:06 Yves was probably the best 55-pounder in the world back then.

Joe Rogan 36:08 People forget about that too.

Brendan Schaub 36:09 They do forget.

Joe Rogan 36:10 Um, but I, one of the reasons why... I was trying to think why they would do it at 70. I think you're right where Cowboy is the natural 155, he's not a huge-

Brendan Schaub 36:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:18 ... welterweight, but the other thing is, is now that Conor fights at 70, now he has options. He can play in 70, he can play at 55.

Brendan Schaub 36:25 Right.

Joe Rogan 36:25 In 70, and I, I, I know his team wants to do it, and his manager told me this, Masvidal told me this, they want to be co-main, co-main event against Nick Diaz, and they want the Conor fight.

Brendan Schaub 36:34 Is Nick taking fights?

Joe Rogan 36:36 He announced on his Instagram that he has big news about a fight.... on a, on his Instagram story. I guess, some- he-

Brendan Schaub 36:42 Did you see his interview with Ariel?

Joe Rogan 36:43 Yep.

Brendan Schaub 36:44 What'd you think?

Joe Rogan 36:45 Uh, what'd you think? (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 36:47 Um, I didn't, I didn't think he looked happy.

Joe Rogan 36:49 No.

Brendan Schaub 36:50 I thought, you know, it was real troubled and a lot of rambling, I mean, a lot of thoughts, trying to get out of his head.

Joe Rogan 36:56 A lot of rants.

Brendan Schaub 36:57 You know, I mean, I, I think, I don't ... It's like-

Joe Rogan 37:00 But have you ever watched an interview and been like, "Oh, damn, that was-"

Brendan Schaub 37:03 With him? No.

Joe Rogan 37:03 Yeah, like that was super clear.

Brendan Schaub 37:04 Look, I mean, I don't think that's his jam, you know?

Joe Rogan 37:06 No.

Brendan Schaub 37:07 His, his jam is fucking people up.

Joe Rogan 37:08 They talk about that. Him and Nate.

Brendan Schaub 37:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:09 They're just like, "Ah, it's a little..."

Brendan Schaub 37:11 And Morik.

Joe Rogan 37:11 I know. It's, it's tough 'cause, 'cause again, we kicked this podcast off with CT and stuff like that. So it's like, is, is that a combination of him fighting? Is that what's going on there? Those are-

Brendan Schaub 37:21 Right.

Joe Rogan 37:22 ... the years of the wars or is that just-

Brendan Schaub 37:23 Right.

Joe Rogan 37:23 ... is that just him?

Brendan Schaub 37:24 We don't know.

Joe Rogan 37:25 But like-

Brendan Schaub 37:25 I don't know him well enough. But I mean-

Joe Rogan 37:27 Me neither.

Brendan Schaub 37:27 ... I know guys, you know, that are in that same era that are having real problems now.

Joe Rogan 37:33 Big time.

Brendan Schaub 37:34 I mean, you gotta remember when he was fighting in Strikeforce. God, you remember his fight with Paul Daley? Jesus Christ.

Joe Rogan 37:37 Oh, my God, dude.

Brendan Schaub 37:38 How about his Cyborg fight? How good was he, man?

Joe Rogan 37:40 I don't know. He was so good.

Brendan Schaub 37:41 Ni- How about his Frank Shamrock fight? Holy fuck, man.

Joe Rogan 37:44 It, it's a shame what happened with him and his brother in the UFC. We didn't, we didn't get enough of it.

Brendan Schaub 37:48 Well, the big th- Well, Nate didn't get appreciated enough. And after the-

Joe Rogan 37:52 And he got fucked.

Brendan Schaub 37:53 Yeah. And I, I had always said that after the Conor fight, one of the reasons why those fights were so big was Nate. And for whatever reason, no one was putting that together. I'm like, "This guy's a superstar." People go crazy when they see him. Like this is not-

Joe Rogan 38:06 They like the realness.

Brendan Schaub 38:07 ... a regular fight. He's real-

Joe Rogan 38:08 No.

Brendan Schaub 38:08 ... as fuck and he smokes weed.

Joe Rogan 38:09 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 38:09 He's a stoner champion.

Joe Rogan 38:11 And, and he says "fuck you" to the man and everyone can relate-

Brendan Schaub 38:13 Yes.

Joe Rogan 38:13 ... to that. Yeah, I get that.

Brendan Schaub 38:13 And even the vegans love him 'cause he, sometimes he follows a vegan diet. He-

Joe Rogan 38:17 Yeah, checks all the boxes for a lot of reasons.

Brendan Schaub 38:19 ... can't. See, he's like ... He's got so many good things and he's tough as shit and he'll fight anybody and he's b- been a veteran. He's been f- fucking fighting forever. He's had so many wars.

Joe Rogan 38:28 What did you think of his fight against Masvidal? We haven't talked in a long time, dude.

Brendan Schaub 38:31 Masvidal. I know, Masvidal's so good, man. He's so good.

Joe Rogan 38:34 I thought Masvidal, out of the three rounds ... I thought it was best case for Nate too, that they did, that that doctor stopped the fight, because I thought Masvidal was setting up to, to finish him. And I, and you know Nate's never been finished, though.

Brendan Schaub 38:48 He has been finished. Josh Thompson finished him.

Joe Rogan 38:49 Oh, that's right, but I'm saying-

Brendan Schaub 38:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:50 ... y- y- you know, it's, it, it was going that way.

Brendan Schaub 38:53 Yeah. It went-

Joe Rogan 38:53 Where his best case scenario, he could be like, "Dude, what the fuck?" Where-

Brendan Schaub 38:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:56 ... he doesn't lose any of that, you know ...

Brendan Schaub 38:59 Right. No, I, I hear you.

Joe Rogan 38:59 ... swag that he ran into.

Brendan Schaub 39:01 Yeah, I, I ... Well, the Josh Thompson fight was more competitive up until the moment Josh landed that high kick.

Joe Rogan 39:07 Correct, that high kick. That's right.

Brendan Schaub 39:07 It was a good fight. Josh was-

Joe Rogan 39:09 Because I keep forgetting that.

Brendan Schaub 39:09 I think Josh was still winning that fight. Um, I would have to go back and watch it again.

Joe Rogan 39:13 It was more competitive, though.

Brendan Schaub 39:14 It was more competitive, yes.

Joe Rogan 39:14 'Cause this Masvidal fight, I didn't find it that com-

Brendan Schaub 39:16 I didn't think it was competitive.

Joe Rogan 39:17 When they got on the mic and went, "Oh, rematch," I went, "No, there's no way." And when Dana was like, "No, that's not happening," I was like, "Oh, he, he gets it."

Brendan Schaub 39:22 Look, it was certainly competitive in that Masvidal was in a fight. It wasn't like he ran him over.

Joe Rogan 39:27 No.

Brendan Schaub 39:27 I mean, they, they went hard rounds.

Joe Rogan 39:28 No one's gonna run Nate over.

Brendan Schaub 39:29 But that first round was devastating. Masvidal is fucking good, man. He's fucking smart. He sees things and he can act on things that other guys just, they just either don't have the ability to, or they don't throw themselves in the fire correctly like he does. And then, he gets out good. His defense is on point.

Joe Rogan 39:46 He's good at everything.

Brendan Schaub 39:47 He stands straight up too. He's got a totally different style. Like, when you see Masvidal stand, like he's n- he's hardly ever crouching.

Joe Rogan 39:55 Not scratched up. No.

Brendan Schaub 39:55 Dude, he stands straight up. He's got so much confidence in his wrestling, take down, defense, and his striking, and his f- his octagon IQ, that when he puts it all together, he's able to fight with his best stand up stance. You know, he's fighting, like, and he makes you aware very clear, very quickly that you're in danger with his hands. He's throwing bombs at your fucking head.

Joe Rogan 40:18 Think about th- think about his experience, man.

Brendan Schaub 40:20 Dude!

Joe Rogan 40:20 Think about the guys he's beaten. So now-

Brendan Schaub 40:22 Dude!

Joe Rogan 40:22 ... he's here, so you know, when you talk to him, he's like, "The belt? Fuck the belt. I got the BMF title."

Brendan Schaub 40:28 Yes.

Joe Rogan 40:28 He's like, "Uh, uh, uh, Colby and, and Kamaru are just, that ... They're third or fourth options for me, man. They're ... I'm looking at Nick Diaz. I'm looking at Conor." You know? There's just ... He's like, "I don't care about the belt, man."

Brendan Schaub 40:39 I see why he would say that, but I think it would be a real shame if right now, in his prime of primes, he didn't fight for the title. I just feel like he's so close and that w- that would be ... He's huge right now.

Joe Rogan 40:51 Huge.

Brendan Schaub 40:51 Huge.

Joe Rogan 40:52 You wouldn't rather see him fight Nick or Conor?

Brendan Schaub 40:55 No.

Joe Rogan 40:56 Interesting.

Brendan Schaub 40:57 No. Well, I wanna see first, no matter what, Colby and Usman.

Joe Rogan 41:00 You ... And you're getting that.

Brendan Schaub 41:02 Yes.

Joe Rogan 41:02 That's guaranteed.

Brendan Schaub 41:02 Super excited about that. Once-

Joe Rogan 41:03 Phenomenal fight.

Brendan Schaub 41:04 Once that's done, I want Masvidal to fight for the title, whoever's got the belt. I think if Masvidal and Nate Diaz or Nick Diaz don't fight on the undercard ...

Joe Rogan 41:15 That'd be so dope.

Brendan Schaub 41:16 I don't know if it's gonna fight. If that, if they actually made that ...

Joe Rogan 41:19 No. I have no idea.

Brendan Schaub 41:19 I have no idea.

Joe Rogan 41:20 I, I know they want it, and his management said the UFC has reached out-

Brendan Schaub 41:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:23 ... to Nick and they're trying to figure that out.

Brendan Schaub 41:25 If they do make that fight happen, I mean, of course I'm gonna be excited to see it. Of course. But my thoughts are that, right now, we're experiencing Masvidal in this very strange zone where you see fighters enter into it, whether it's through this rededication or refocusing of his, of his, of his intent and his discipline. You know, he, you know his story, how he went and did that reality show?

Joe Rogan 41:48 Yeah. And came back and was like ...

Brendan Schaub 41:50 Yeah, he didn't have any food, man. He's on this-fuckin' South American reality show. He had to go to this village and ask for food.

Joe Rogan 41:55 He also said he got, like ... H- he had time to, like, get out from ... and like sit back-

Brendan Schaub 41:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:00 ... and like think about everything that's going on. He was like, "All right."

Brendan Schaub 42:02 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 42:02 "This is what I wanna do." And then came back and was like, "Let's do it, man." Then just, he became this superstar. And I th- I just, you know, when, when, when I meet those guys and, you know, obviously, I know their story and you get around them, you just ... I have this sense of just, like, "I'm so happy for them, man." Like th- that's why I talk about a Nick Diaz fight for Jorge and I, I talk about a Conor McGregor fight, because D- you're not ... The title ... Like Kamaru and Colby, they're not making real money, man.

Brendan Schaub 42:27 You don't think that the Colby ... That Colby's gonna bring in a lot of people?

Joe Rogan 42:31 No. Well, the record would say he doesn't. And I love Colby's Fantastic Fighter, but as far as ticket sales and pay-per-views, no.

Brendan Schaub 42:36 Let me tell you something though.

Joe Rogan 42:36 He knows who does?

Brendan Schaub 42:37 From the UFC. From the UFC. This ... Colby, with one big win-... right now, like see, he hasn't fought in a while, right? He fights Robbie Lawler, before that it was a whole year.

Joe Rogan 42:47 Yes.

Brendan Schaub 42:47 So there hasn't been a lot of activity.

Joe Rogan 42:48 Him and Dana hate each other.

Brendan Schaub 42:49 But his crazy shit talking, with his $3 suit and his fucking MAGA hat and his book-

Joe Rogan 42:53 And the strippers.

Brendan Schaub 42:54 If he gets through it... Right, yeah, and the strippers.

Joe Rogan 42:56 Fantastic.

Brendan Schaub 42:56 If he gets through and he beats Kamaru Usman and he, and he, and it gets on the n- the internet and it becomes like a thing, he could be the next huge superstar. He knows what he's doing. And you and I both know him. He's not like that guy-

Joe Rogan 43:11 Not at all.

Brendan Schaub 43:11 ... at all.

Joe Rogan 43:11 That's why I love him.

Brendan Schaub 43:12 This is a fucking character. He's a really nice guy.

Joe Rogan 43:14 The best.

Brendan Schaub 43:15 He's smart as shit, and his fucking discipline is unparalleled. And people look at him with that stupid suit on and the MAGA hat- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:23 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 43:23 ... that he's carrying around Donald Trump Jr's book-

Joe Rogan 43:25 And two strippers.

Brendan Schaub 43:26 ... and uh, it's fucking amazing, dude. He's the, he's got the best act-

Joe Rogan 43:31 The whole shtick.

Brendan Schaub 43:31 ... that anybody's ever put on in the UFC because he's got an act. All these other guys are talking shit. He's talking shit through a character.

Joe Rogan 43:37 He's playing game.

Brendan Schaub 43:38 He made a guy.

Joe Rogan 43:39 He's playing a game.

Brendan Schaub 43:40 Do you think he thinks that suit looks good?

Joe Rogan 43:41 No, he fucking knows.

Brendan Schaub 43:42 Look at that fucking suit.

Joe Rogan 43:43 All of it's, all of it-

Brendan Schaub 43:44 Dude, that suit is the cheapest suit he could find. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:47 Dude, dude, when I did a food truck with him, when I did a food truck with him, like in between you could see me like... (sighs)

Brendan Schaub 43:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:52 And I'd be like, "Dude, you don't have to do this, man. We can just..." And he's like, "No, no, it's cool."

Brendan Schaub 43:56 (laughs) He has to. He has to.

Joe Rogan 43:57 And then the strippers, he goes, "Uh, can you, uh... How about... You know what would be fun? If one of you massage..." (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 44:03 Dude.

Joe Rogan 44:03 He says, "If one of you massage my shoulders..." She goes, "Sh- get the fuck out of here."

Brendan Schaub 44:06 Look at him sitting there with his book, triggered, with his fucking, with his suit on.

Joe Rogan 44:11 He's so funny, man.

Brendan Schaub 44:13 (laughs) And the fucking hat is signed. Close in on the hat.

Narrator 44:16 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 44:16 Close in on the hat.

Joe Rogan 44:17 Clos- by Donald Trump-

Brendan Schaub 44:18 Yes.

Joe Rogan 44:18 ... 'cause he went to the White House.

Brendan Schaub 44:18 Look at that.

Joe Rogan 44:19 When he was the interim champ.

Brendan Schaub 44:20 Bro. He's still the interim champ.

Joe Rogan 44:23 Yes.

Brendan Schaub 44:23 You, you can't just take it from him. It doesn't make any sense.

Joe Rogan 44:25 But what's interesting too is, you know, remember him and Masvidal had, uh... They were training partners, so there's a story there.

Brendan Schaub 44:31 Yes.

Joe Rogan 44:31 But a- a- again, I, I, I think for Masvid-

Brendan Schaub 44:33 But they're friends apparently.

Joe Rogan 44:35 Yes. But also (laughs) yeah, it's like a Andy Kaufman thing. So if-

Brendan Schaub 44:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:40 (laughs) But I just... For, for Masvidal to ride off in the sunset and be set up with his kids, I wanna see him fight Conor, I wanna see him fight, fight Nick, and then ride off.

Brendan Schaub 44:46 I know he made a ton of loot for that last fight. He made a ton of loot for that last fight. So... And it was a big success, right? Everybody wanted to see that fight. It was big. And I think Masvidal's name's never been brighter. Whoever wins the title.

Joe Rogan 44:58 Dude, think about the story of him versus Nick Diaz.

Brendan Schaub 45:01 I love... Listen-

Joe Rogan 45:01 And Nick Diaz going, "You beat my little brother."

Brendan Schaub 45:04 ... I would prefer... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:04 That's the most I've ever related to the Diaz brothers when he goes, "Dude, you beat my little brother?" 'Cause I have an older brother. I was like, "Oh hell yeah, get him, Nick."

Brendan Schaub 45:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:10 "I'm in now, bro." (laughs) "Yeah, fuck him up, man."

Brendan Schaub 45:14 And people would love that too. I mean, it'll definitely be successful. But I would like to see Nick be real active before he fights-

Joe Rogan 45:21 That's not happening, brother.

Brendan Schaub 45:21 ... a guy like Masvidal.

Joe Rogan 45:22 That's not happening.

Brendan Schaub 45:22 I know, I know. You're right. You're right.

Joe Rogan 45:24 Think... That's what's crazy about the UFC. Warmup fights?

Brendan Schaub 45:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:27 Excuse me?

Brendan Schaub 45:28 No, yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:28 Conor hasn't won a fight in three years.

Brendan Schaub 45:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:30 Then before that, the only fight he's had against Khabib, he, he, he gets done boxing-

Brendan Schaub 45:35 No.

Joe Rogan 45:35 ... then fights fucking Khabib?

Brendan Schaub 45:37 He hasn't beaten anybody since the Eddie Alvarez fight when he won, won the title.

Joe Rogan 45:40 That's crazy, right?

Brendan Schaub 45:41 Yeah. It is kind of crazy. Three million-

Joe Rogan 45:43 But he's on-

Brendan Schaub 45:43 He's making fucking half a billion dollars.

Joe Rogan 45:45 This is where you gotta... Whatever you wanna say about Conor, obviously his outside documentary on antics are, have been crazy. But you gotta respect the guy who has all that money and goes, "Yeah, I'll fight, uh, Cerrone in January at welterweight." The... You know, number five lightweight in the world-

Brendan Schaub 46:02 Do you-

Joe Rogan 46:02 ... and he's like, "Yeah, I'll fight that guy."

Brendan Schaub 46:03 Do you think that he can reignite the fire that he had like when he KO'd Derek Brunson?

Joe Rogan 46:10 Nope.

Brendan Schaub 46:10 When he was coming up?

Joe Rogan 46:11 Mm-mm.

Brendan Schaub 46:12 No?

Joe Rogan 46:12 Not with that money in the bank.

Brendan Schaub 46:14 (sighs) That sucks.

Joe Rogan 46:15 I don't, I don't think fighting comes from that place.

Brendan Schaub 46:17 But how come some guys, when they have hundreds of millions of dollars, they still fuck people up? Like Tyson in his prime, Lennox Lewis in his prime.

Joe Rogan 46:24 Tyson fucked people up until he, until he f- until the bully fought back.

Brendan Schaub 46:29 Oh, you mean Evander Holyfield?

Joe Rogan 46:29 And then he got fucked and he was never... Yeah, he was never the same.

Brendan Schaub 46:32 Mm. I think he's also tired of it too, man.

Joe Rogan 46:35 I think it was a combination of the, the... He fought a guy who wasn't scared and didn't back down.

Brendan Schaub 46:39 Yep.

Joe Rogan 46:39 And was like, "Yeah, bring it, dude."

Brendan Schaub 46:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:41 And he got fucked... He's lost every fight that the guy was like, "I'm not scared." He lost those fights.

Brendan Schaub 46:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:45 But I'm not saying Tyson wasn't great, but when... Evander Holyfield's a better boxer, man, he's a better fighter, but he don't get the respect.

Brendan Schaub 46:51 Well, there was some guys that weren't scared of him that, that s- that stood in with him and he beat him by decision. You know, like didn't he beat Razor Ruddock by decision? They had a lot of shit talking. He KO'd Bonecrusher Smith, right?

Joe Rogan 47:04 Yeah, but when we're talking about the tip of the spear, like Evander Holyfield in these-

Brendan Schaub 47:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:07 ... in these great bowl-

Brendan Schaub 47:07 Well, Evander Holyfield at that time...

Joe Rogan 47:09 You know?

Brendan Schaub 47:10 Evander Holyfield, there's a g- real good argument for sure that he's one of the greatest of all time.

Joe Rogan 47:14 Ah, easy.

Brendan Schaub 47:14 He's the only guy to ever win the title four times.

Joe Rogan 47:16 Easy. But I-

Brendan Schaub 47:18 He's-

Joe Rogan 47:18 But I, but I just think, you know, with, with Conor, especially this day and age, the UFC is different than boxing where it's such a grind, man.

Brendan Schaub 47:25 I was just gonna say, is it Evander?

Joe Rogan 47:26 And you guys are so good. Oh, my bad. Go ahead.

Brendan Schaub 47:28 Oh, sorry. Was it... Evander spent all that money.

Joe Rogan 47:31 Oh yeah, on that one. Like one house.

Brendan Schaub 47:32 That's what I'm saying. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:34 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 47:35 He bought, you know who owns that house?

Joe Rogan 47:35 He bought some hotel in Atlanta.

Brendan Schaub 47:37 Rick Ross. Rick Ross. The fake Rick Ross owns that house.

Joe Rogan 47:39 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 47:40 Not the real Freeway Ricky, the real drug dealer.

Joe Rogan 47:42 The... Yeah, the-

Brendan Schaub 47:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:43 ... the rapper.

Brendan Schaub 47:43 Who's out there doing positive things in the community?

Joe Rogan 47:45 Yeah, hell yeah.

Brendan Schaub 47:45 The rapper.

Joe Rogan 47:46 The rapper.

Brendan Schaub 47:46 Who took his name. He lost in court trying to get his name back, trying to get that guy to stop using his name or pay him to use his fucking name.

Joe Rogan 47:53 And how about that rapper Rick Ross used to be a cop? And now he talks about dope and all this shit.

Brendan Schaub 47:57 Yes. Well, he was a security guard at a prison.

Joe Rogan 47:58 Fuck, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 47:59 I think. So I think something along those lines.

Joe Rogan 48:00 Yeah, something like that. And how about he owns-

Brendan Schaub 48:01 Look at that house.

Joe Rogan 48:02 Dude.

Brendan Schaub 48:03 So Evander Holyfield made hundreds of millions of dollars.

Joe Rogan 48:06 It's only 5.8.

Brendan Schaub 48:07 Oh, it's not bad because it's outside of Atlanta.

Joe Rogan 48:10 But it has 37 rooms and like all his family moved in.

Brendan Schaub 48:13 It's true. It costs a million dollars just to keep every year. I think that was the word. There was a million dollars to run.

Joe Rogan 48:18 For maintenance?

Brendan Schaub 48:19 Yeah, just everything.

Joe Rogan 48:20 Holy fuck, dude. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 48:21 (laughs) This is so big.

Joe Rogan 48:22 He moved into Bellagio. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 48:24 (laughs) Look, he did. He moved into Bellagio.

Joe Rogan 48:26 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 48:26 That house is so big. Imagine that Rick Ross made that with another dude's name just talking shit. What a great country. You could just talk shit in this country and you can make fucking millions of dollars.

Joe Rogan 48:35 And, and, and the other thing Rick Ross does is he owns like a hundred Buffalo Wild Wings.

Brendan Schaub 48:40 Ooh, that's a good move.

Joe Rogan 48:40 Or Bu- Buffalo Stops.

Narrator 48:42 Wingstop.

Joe Rogan 48:42 Wingstop.

Brendan Schaub 48:42 Wingstop.

Joe Rogan 48:42 Ooh, shout out to Wingstop. It's your crispy.

Brendan Schaub 48:44 Shout out to Wingstops. That's a good move, right? People always want wings. Wings have been around forever.

Joe Rogan 48:48 Dude, I fucking... My mouth's watering.

Brendan Schaub 48:50 Wings. Wings.

Joe Rogan 48:50 I love wings, dude.

Brendan Schaub 48:52 Love wings. There used to be a place right outside Boston Comedy in the Village. We'd do sets at Boston Comedy and there was this wing spot and they had, they had different levels and one was suicide.

Joe Rogan 49:03 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 49:03 They had... (laughs) ... this, you would get this suicide sauce on this fucking, on these wings. Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 49:09 Was it purple? Like was it-

Brendan Schaub 49:10 It was a-

Joe Rogan 49:11 ... purple seeds?

Brendan Schaub 49:11 ... I didn't know at the time, I didn't understand hot peppers, but it was definitely habanero, 'cause it was an, an orange color.

Joe Rogan 49:16 Oh.

Brendan Schaub 49:16 Like a real orange color. And you would eat those wings and just be like, Je- it's like a weird combination of pleasure and pain at the same time.

Joe Rogan 49:23 It takes your breath away.

Brendan Schaub 49:25 Ah!

Joe Rogan 49:25 Your lips go white.

Brendan Schaub 49:27 Ah!

Joe Rogan 49:28 I fucking love wings.

Brendan Schaub 49:29 Yeah. I don't wanna do that wing show, though. It's like not a good way to talk, man. You know, it's like, talk-

Joe Rogan 49:34 It'd be interesting on there with you.

Brendan Schaub 49:35 ... while snot's coming out of your nose-

Joe Rogan 49:37 I know.

Brendan Schaub 49:37 ... and you're crying.

Joe Rogan 49:38 You would do well at it, though.

Brendan Schaub 49:39 That's not a good place to talk.

Joe Rogan 49:40 It'd be fun, though.

Brendan Schaub 49:41 Just as silly.

Joe Rogan 49:41 It'd be fun to see you on the road.

Brendan Schaub 49:42 I know, but why, why are you asking people personal questions while they're crying?

Joe Rogan 49:45 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 49:45 While it's hot as fuck? Some guys just-

Joe Rogan 49:47 I can barely talk.

Brendan Schaub 49:49 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:49 Like some guys just crush it, where it doesn't-

Brendan Schaub 49:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:51 ... phase them. Like how does that happen?

Brendan Schaub 49:53 Oh, there's my friend, Tommy Hershko, I've talked about him before. We, there used to be a place called Chili My Soul in, um, Encino, and it was this crazy chili place. This guy was into the most ridiculously hot chili. It was so hot, you would have to like sign a waiver-

Joe Rogan 50:06 Oh, no.

Brendan Schaub 50:07 ... if you wanted to buy the stuff they put in it. And, uh, they were, he was tell- he was telling me that even with the, the hottest shit that they had, they had like a number system, I think, I think 10, you know, I think, uh, eight was like the most I could tolerate. But they would have these guys from Nepal come, and even with the 10, number 10, the hottest shit they had, these dudes would be putting some extra hot sauce on there.

Joe Rogan 50:26 Holy fuck.

Brendan Schaub 50:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:28 Do you like spicy stuff?

Brendan Schaub 50:29 I don't, I don't like it that spicy.

Joe Rogan 50:30 I like fla-

Brendan Schaub 50:31 I can't handle that.

Joe Rogan 50:31 ... spicy, but flavorful.

Brendan Schaub 50:32 I like spicy. I like, I love, um, jalapenos with elk. It's like my favorite meal.

Joe Rogan 50:37 Oh, jalapenos, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 50:38 I slice up like four or five jalapenos, and I'm, in a bunch of slices, every time I take a piece of elk, I put a piece of jalapeno on that bitch.

Joe Rogan 50:44 I know, when you po-

Brendan Schaub 50:45 Woo!

Joe Rogan 50:45 ... when you post it, I'm like balls deep in a cheese pizza, I'm like, "Goddamn it."

Brendan Schaub 50:49 Woo!

Joe Rogan 50:50 Dude. The stuff keeps you alive, gives you fuel.

Brendan Schaub 50:54 You eat that stuff?

Joe Rogan 50:55 I know.

Brendan Schaub 50:55 The spice from the pepper and the fucking...

Joe Rogan 50:57 Just sounds nice.

Brendan Schaub 50:58 Supernatural muscle of the elk meat. (growling) Oh, that's the menu, man. That was it. So yeah-

Joe Rogan 51:03 That's it?

Brendan Schaub 51:04 ... it was, it was, uh, a number system. Yeah, so 10, Demon is 10. See that? 10 will fucking end your life.

Joe Rogan 51:11 10 plus.

Brendan Schaub 51:12 And when... Oh, my God, 10 plus? Oh. And when they let you try it, they would let you try it in the tiniest cup, like a little, little paper cup, like that big, and they'd give you a-

Joe Rogan 51:21 Just sipping like that?

Brendan Schaub 51:21 ... little baby spoon, like one of them baby spoons you get at the ice cream store-

Joe Rogan 51:25 Oh, you're just-

Brendan Schaub 51:25 ... and then you wanna try that different flavor?

Joe Rogan 51:26 ... set your fucking mouth afire.

Brendan Schaub 51:27 "Can I try that French vanilla?" And they give you a little-

Joe Rogan 51:28 Little something, the plastic one?

Brendan Schaub 51:30 Yeah, they give you-

Joe Rogan 51:30 Or the wooden?

Brendan Schaub 51:30 ... a little something. That's what it's like. They would give you that and you would put it in your mouth, and I would immediately start hiccuping, like (hiccuping)

Joe Rogan 51:36 Jesus Christ.

Brendan Schaub 51:37 'Cause your, your body's like, "What in the fuck are you doing to me, man?"

Joe Rogan 51:40 There's been a, there's been a few people who on that, uh, that wing, whatever the fuck the Hot Ones is, yeah, Hot Ones, that's right, the Hot Ones, like Shia LaBeouf took all of them at the end, put them all together, and the guy's like, "I wouldn't do that, dude."

Brendan Schaub 51:51 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 51:51 And he did it in his... He was like s- about to throw up.

Brendan Schaub 51:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:54 They had to get like bring him milk or some shit.

Brendan Schaub 51:56 Well, Shia's got other issues. He's probably just-

Joe Rogan 51:59 Yeah, he does. Phenomenal actor though.

Brendan Schaub 52:01 Very good.

Joe Rogan 52:01 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 52:01 Very good actor.

Joe Rogan 52:02 Shout out to-

Brendan Schaub 52:03 You know-

Joe Rogan 52:03 ... uh, Peanut Butter Feltz, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 52:04 It's a hard road for all of us.

Joe Rogan 52:05 Yeah, it is.

Brendan Schaub 52:06 He just m- wanted to get a little further down the road just, "Ah!"

Joe Rogan 52:10 Dude. Spicy's not for me, dude.

Brendan Schaub 52:12 Right into your boy Logan Paul in Hawaii.

Joe Rogan 52:14 Did you really?

Brendan Schaub 52:14 Yeah, he was wandering around Hawaii.

Joe Rogan 52:16 Did you see h- did you see him? When were you there?

Brendan Schaub 52:17 Yeah, we said hi, we talked, uh, over Thanksgiving weekend.

Joe Rogan 52:19 He's a nice kid, right?

Brendan Schaub 52:19 Very nice.

Joe Rogan 52:20 Really nice.

Brendan Schaub 52:21 Yeah. I've talked to him before, I talked to him with you.

Joe Rogan 52:23 Oh, that's right, we were at The Comedy Store, he was there.

Brendan Schaub 52:24 And th- he had a good fight, man. Their fight was good. It was a good fight. They, they didn't get tired. I mean, they fucking went after it for six rounds.

Joe Rogan 52:31 Dude, for guys like-

Brendan Schaub 52:32 Yes!

Joe Rogan 52:32 ... that to go s- you know, I've-

Brendan Schaub 52:34 Six rounds!

Joe Rogan 52:34 ... I've seen guys who have experience in amateur boxing like wou- gassed the fuck out. In front of a crowd like-

Brendan Schaub 52:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:40 ... that? Pretty impressive.

Brendan Schaub 52:41 It's interesting, you know, h- here's a guy also doesn't need to do that. He makes a lot of money.

Joe Rogan 52:47 A ton of money.

Brendan Schaub 52:47 Makes a ton of money, right?

Joe Rogan 52:49 A ton of money. Whether you like it or not, that's the reality of it. Well, someone likes it, that's why he's making the money.

Brendan Schaub 52:52 But I mean, whether someone listening likes to hear it or not, the truth is he makes a ton of money.

Joe Rogan 52:56 Correct.

Brendan Schaub 52:56 You can lie all you- "No, man, he's broke. That guy lost all his money. Uh, nah." No. He's got all the money.

Joe Rogan 53:03 I've been to his house.

Brendan Schaub 53:03 And he'd still decided to fight, which is interesting. It's like, okay, you know, if y- if you have that competitive drive in you-

Joe Rogan 53:11 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 53:11 ... you know, if you really do have it in you, you're a little-

Joe Rogan 53:13 I think, I think for, for him and those YouTubers especially at his level, it's just like what's the next thing that we can compete, like get-

Brendan Schaub 53:21 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 53:21 ... everyone behind-

Brendan Schaub 53:22 Right.

Joe Rogan 53:22 ... and it was that... They could've done ballet dance and whatever it is, they would've sold millions and millions of do-... Like they could've-

Brendan Schaub 53:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:27 ... but they chose this, which I respect, but that KSI guy, who I've never seen, I'm not familiar with him. I know he's British though, I like British people. So I know he was like, they were like, "Hey, you wanna do a rematch?" He's like, "Fuck, I'm not getting hit in the face again. This was it, dude."

Brendan Schaub 53:38 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 53:39 "I'm done."

Brendan Schaub 53:39 Well, he won for sure, so, you know, for him, that's the best way to end it.

Joe Rogan 53:43 Yeah, he was like, "I'm out."

Brendan Schaub 53:44 And it was real controversial, you know?

Joe Rogan 53:46 Well, the ref, the penalty-

Brendan Schaub 53:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:47 ... on Logan I thought was ridiculous.

Brendan Schaub 53:48 It was a little too much.

Joe Rogan 53:49 That ref, that ref, and he's a respected ref, but it's also like you're in there for this, you know, this-

Brendan Schaub 53:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:55 ... kind of show, like-

Brendan Schaub 53:57 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 53:57 ... take it for what it is. These guys have never fought before. Don't take two points from Logan Paul because of that. Two points?

Brendan Schaub 54:01 Yeah, I didn't agree with that.

Joe Rogan 54:02 Without a warning? That's cr- ridiculous.

Brendan Schaub 54:03 I didn't agree with that. And I think, uh, with more fights, Logan could learn how to relax. He gets wild and starts swinging.

Joe Rogan 54:12 For sure, but Logan, stop boxing.

Brendan Schaub 54:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:14 You have a jagillion dollars-

Brendan Schaub 54:16 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 54:16 ... keep doing that, dude.

Brendan Schaub 54:17 Yes.

Joe Rogan 54:17 Fuck this, man.

Brendan Schaub 54:18 Exactly, exactly. But it was interesting watching him, like this kid can punch.

Joe Rogan 54:21 He's athletic, man.

Brendan Schaub 54:22 He's very athletic and-

Joe Rogan 54:23 Driven, has a work ethic.

Brendan Schaub 54:24 And in the heat of the battle, and he was trained by Shannon.

Joe Rogan 54:27 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 54:27 Shannon "The Cannon" Briggs, "Let's go, champ!"

Joe Rogan 54:29 "Let's go, champ."

Brendan Schaub 54:30 "Let's go, champ," was training him.

Joe Rogan 54:31 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 54:31 Shannon "The Cannon" knows how to fucking fight.

Joe Rogan 54:33 Yeah. He, no, he did a real camp and it's just like I respect it, but it's like stop fighting.

Brendan Schaub 54:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:37 Go do, I mean...

Brendan Schaub 54:38 Exactly. Well, maybe he will now. Maybe he will.

Joe Rogan 54:40 Yeah, like you checked that box, you're good, man.

Brendan Schaub 54:42 Dude, what do you think about Adesanya and Yoel Romero? Is that real?

Joe Rogan 54:45 It's not confirmed yet, is it?

Brendan Schaub 54:47 I don't know, I sent you something. I was hoping.

Joe Rogan 54:49 You sent that to me-

Brendan Schaub 54:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:50 ... and I was like, "Holy shit." I, 'cause I was at, I fell asleep and I woke up in the morning, I'm like, "Here we go." But...

Brendan Schaub 54:56 Is it not confirmed? Did someone troll me?

Joe Rogan 54:58 No, I don't think so.

Brendan Schaub 54:59 I think I found it on one of the websites I follow on Instagram.

Joe Rogan 55:02 It, but usually th- they leak there and then-

Brendan Schaub 55:04 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 55:04 ... it gets announced. But if-

Brendan Schaub 55:05 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 55:05 ... he does fight Yoel Romero, and when I was talking to-... uh, Jorge and Yoel Romero's, uh, manager when I was doing the food truck with Jorge. He was just like, "Oh, Jorge's getting a fight, man." I was like, "No, he's coming off a loss." He goes, "Think about his fucking losses." He goes, "He has his, he... Do you think he lost to Paulo Costa?" And I was like, "Mm, like no one got robbed, but I can see why they get Paulo," but you have an argument there. And he goes, "Think about before that, the Robert-Whittaker fight. He got fucked with that too."

Brendan Schaub 55:31 He definitely got robbed in the second Whittaker fight.

Joe Rogan 55:33 Correct.

Brendan Schaub 55:33 I thought he w- I thought he won that fight.

Joe Rogan 55:34 Yeah. So-

Brendan Schaub 55:35 I've said that many, many times too and I haven't really heard a good argument against it. He had him hurt real bad.

Joe Rogan 55:39 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 55:40 In at least two rounds.

Joe Rogan 55:41 Yeah, I'd have to go back, I remember at the time I did score it for Whittaker. Here's my thing, that's fine, if you think he won. Yeah, all right. I can see that. I see both sides. But that's an argument for giving, uh, Yoel Romero the title shot-

Brendan Schaub 55:53 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 55:53 ... because it's not like he got... If he got starts and then gave him the title shot, you're like, "What are you doing?"

Brendan Schaub 55:56 Is it real?

Narrator 55:57 This is on Yoel's page. It's not official yet.

Brendan Schaub 55:59 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 56:00 March 7th.

Brendan Schaub 56:02 March 7th.

Joe Rogan 56:03 Here's the problem if UFC 248. If Yoel hasn't heard, if Yoel hasn't heard anything-

Brendan Schaub 56:06 But that's on Yoel's page.

Joe Rogan 56:08 I know, but he goes, "A lot of people putting, saying we fight March. Should I be ready?"

Brendan Schaub 56:13 (laughs)

Narrator 56:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:13 (laughs) So it's like...

Narrator 56:15 A lot of people putting, saying we fight March.

Joe Rogan 56:19 How- how about, uh, uh-

Narrator 56:20 Should I be ready?

Joe Rogan 56:22 Should I be ready? Gay Jesus. Uh, how about, uh, Andrew Schulz?

Narrator 56:25 Don't forgay.

Joe Rogan 56:26 Andrew Schulz is super close with, uh, Izzy and, uh, he saw that and he goes, "Dude, why would Izzy fight this guy? He doesn't speak very good English." I'm like-

Brendan Schaub 56:35 What?

Joe Rogan 56:35 I'm like, "Dude, hold on."

Brendan Schaub 56:36 What did he say? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:37 He goes, he goes, "He doesn't speak English. He needs a guy to speak good English." Right?

Brendan Schaub 56:41 Talk trash, dude.

Joe Rogan 56:41 Speak ta- talk trash. And I go, "You don't understand."

Brendan Schaub 56:43 No.

Joe Rogan 56:43 Yoel Romero is such a fucking nightmare.

Brendan Schaub 56:46 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 56:46 And for Izzy to go after Yoel, it just ups the legend of Izzy. This is... What he's doing is perfect. Trust me, it's perfect.

Brendan Schaub 56:53 Andrew, stay in your lane.

Joe Rogan 56:54 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 56:54 We love you, Andrew. Stay in your lane.

Joe Rogan 56:57 (laughs) Don't you fuck this up. He's out here next week.

Brendan Schaub 57:00 Imagine if he talked... If he talked Izzy out of it, I'd be so mad at him.

Joe Rogan 57:02 He would, Izzy's not gonna listen to him about that.

Brendan Schaub 57:04 Of course he wouldn't.

Joe Rogan 57:05 Nah.

Brendan Schaub 57:05 But imagine if he did, what if Andrew had some fucking magic hypnosis power and then all of a sudden-

Joe Rogan 57:08 And Izzy was like, "God, talk to Schulz, man. I'm, I'm not gonna do it."

Brendan Schaub 57:11 ... he's like, "Fuck that fight. That guy can't even talk English." Like, "What the fuck are we doing?"

Joe Rogan 57:14 Why'd you do that?

Narrator 57:16 Don't forgay.

Brendan Schaub 57:17 Gay Jesus.

Narrator 57:18 Don't forgay.

Joe Rogan 57:20 Dude, how about one that fight is confirmed, Ferguson-Khabib is happening.

Brendan Schaub 57:23 How the fuck did people not understand, he was saying, "Don't forget." You know out of all the times that I've ever not done post-fight commentary, that was the, the time I was the most mad.

Joe Rogan 57:33 Would they not let you?

Brendan Schaub 57:35 I wasn't there. I wasn't there for that fight.

Joe Rogan 57:37 Oh, it was an online.

Brendan Schaub 57:37 So when he was saying, it was a fight that I wasn't there.

Joe Rogan 57:39 But it was i- somewhere... Where was that at?

Brendan Schaub 57:40 I don't know. I wasn't there.

Joe Rogan 57:41 But you weren't there.

Brendan Schaub 57:41 I wasn't there. It was like-

Joe Rogan 57:42 It was on pay-per-view.

Brendan Schaub 57:43 He was like, "Don't forgay, Jesus." Look, I, I know a lot of Cuban people. I know what the fuck he's saying. He's saying, "Don't forget, Jesus." It's not, "Don't... Go forgay." (laughs) Don't forgay.

Joe Rogan 57:54 Yeah. Why would he say... What, what, what, what did the thing just say?

Narrator 57:57 See D.C., Miami, Florida.

Brendan Schaub 57:57 Crank it up, crank it up so we can hear it.

Narrator 57:59 Hi Miami. Hi Florida. That's right.

Joe Rogan 58:02 It was a fight night, that's why he didn't do it, yeah.

Narrator 58:04 Listen people, listen, listen, listen.

Brendan Schaub 58:06 He's got a John...

Narrator 58:07 Listen.

Brendan Schaub 58:07 He's got a Bible quote on his forehead, folks.

Narrator 58:09 What happened to you, USA? What happened to you? What is going on you? Forget for the best of the birds of the world. The name is Jesus Christ.

Brendan Schaub 58:20 He said, "Don't forget."

Narrator 58:21 What happened to you?

Joe Rogan 58:22 That's it, he keeps going.

Narrator 58:22 What's up, USA?

Joe Rogan 58:24 Look-

Narrator 58:24 Go, go back where you go. Go for Jesus. Not forgay Jesus people.

Brendan Schaub 58:31 Not forget Jesus.

Joe Rogan 58:32 God, dude. But the thing is, he's going, "What's wrong with you Americans? What's wrong with you, Americans? You forget, you forget. You forget Jesus, you gay people." No.

Brendan Schaub 58:42 Dude.

Joe Rogan 58:42 Do you think that's what he said?

Brendan Schaub 58:43 That's exactly what he said. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:44 Okay. Lemme hear that again. (laughs) Damn.

Brendan Schaub 58:46 That's exactly-

Joe Rogan 58:47 You know what? Pause for a second. I'm gonna be honest.

Brendan Schaub 58:50 You thought that?

Joe Rogan 58:51 I'm gonna be honest, I did a little bit. I was like, "Wait, no."

Brendan Schaub 58:53 (laughs) Because he lines it up with, "What's wrong with you America?"

Joe Rogan 58:57 Oh, here's the-

Brendan Schaub 58:57 "What's wrong with you people?"

Joe Rogan 58:57 ... here's the problem, here's the problem. He said, "Forget," pretty clear. That's what fucked me up. "You forget, you forget."

Brendan Schaub 59:03 Right. But a guy like that-

Joe Rogan 59:03 "You forget, Jesus."

Brendan Schaub 59:05 ... who barely speaks.

Joe Rogan 59:05 "You believe in gay Jesus."

Brendan Schaub 59:07 Is that really what he said?

Joe Rogan 59:08 Yeah. (laughs) Play that shit again, bro. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 59:10 Oh, no. Cut it off, Jamie.

Narrator 59:13 What happened to you, USA?

Joe Rogan 59:16 Okay.

Narrator 59:16 What happened to you?

Joe Rogan 59:17 "What happened to you?" Hold on.

Narrator 59:18 What is going on you? Forget for the best of the birds-

Joe Rogan 59:22 Forget.

Narrator 59:23 ... of the world.

Joe Rogan 59:23 Okay.

Brendan Schaub 59:24 Yep, yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:24 You forget the best-

Brendan Schaub 59:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Narrator 59:25 He fell.

Brendan Schaub 59:25 USA, you forget, you forget the best in the world.

Joe Rogan 59:27 Forget, go ahead.

Narrator 59:29 Forgets of the world. The name is Jesus Christ. What happened to you?

Joe Rogan 59:33 What happened to you?

Narrator 59:35 What's up, USA?

Joe Rogan 59:35 What ha- what come, come?

Narrator 59:37 Go, go back where you go. Go for Jesus. Not forgay Jesus people.

Joe Rogan 59:41 Na- not for gay Jesus people.

Brendan Schaub 59:43 Maybe, but maybe not forget Jesus. It's like, "What happened to you? Not forget, Jesus." It wasn't like there was some gay thing that was going on that he was commenting on.

Joe Rogan 59:52 No, no, it's true. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 59:52 It could have easily, but he's, he's so bad at English.

Joe Rogan 59:55 He's so bad.

Brendan Schaub 59:56 It easily could be, "Don't forget, Jesus." He said, "Go for Jesus, don't forget Jesus."

Joe Rogan 1:00:03 The only problem is he goes, "What's wrong with you, USA? What's wrong with you? You forget the number one."

Brendan Schaub 1:00:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:08 "Jesus, what's wrong with you? Go back, go back."

Brendan Schaub 1:00:12 "Don't forget."

Joe Rogan 1:00:13 "Don't forget Jesus."

Brendan Schaub 1:00:14 "Don't Forget Jesus." Maybe it's "Don't forget Jesus."

Joe Rogan 1:00:15 But he says, "Don't forget," right? One more time. (laughs) Because it, it doesn't even make sense.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:19 (laughs) Because here, why am I breaking this down?

Narrator 1:00:21 We're gonna closed caption it.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:22 First of all, pause for a second. You gotta remember, he just got hit in the head.

Joe Rogan 1:00:26 A bunch.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:26 A gang of times.

Joe Rogan 1:00:27 Yes.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:27 Right? I mean, what fight was this? Do we remember? And look, he's got John 3:16 or 3:18 on a, on a b- bandana around his head. He's got a Bible quote on his fucking head.

Joe Rogan 1:00:36 Go for Jesus, not for gay Jesus, people.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:39 Go for Jesus, not forget Jesus.

Joe Rogan 1:00:42 Yeah, n- not forget.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:42 You forget.

Joe Rogan 1:00:43 You forget Jesus.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:44 It's, yeah-

Joe Rogan 1:00:45 It's e- it doesn't make sense.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:46 ... it's possible. It doesn't make sense, period.

Joe Rogan 1:00:48 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:48 No matter what it is.

Joe Rogan 1:00:48 For him, for him to say, "Not for gay Jesus."

Brendan Schaub 1:00:51 No.

Joe Rogan 1:00:51 That doesn't make sense.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:51 Doesn't make sense.

Joe Rogan 1:00:52 Because no one is saying Jesus is gay.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:52 Jesus is not gay.

Joe Rogan 1:00:53 No.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:54 No. There's no rumors anywhere.

Joe Rogan 1:00:55 He's saying, "Don't forget Jesus."

Brendan Schaub 1:00:56 We might have just started a rumor about Jesus being gay. Imagine if we were the first ones after all these years.

Joe Rogan 1:01:01 All these years. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 1:01:01 And like, "This is what I heard about Jesus." And then it becomes like, everybody's talking about it. Like G- Yoel was tell- there was a scroll, he really was gay.

Joe Rogan 1:01:08 Shut bro, get down. Shut shop down.

Brendan Schaub 1:01:11 Jesus was gay. Of course, he loves everybody.

Joe Rogan 1:01:13 It's confusing though. I can see how people mix those words.

Brendan Schaub 1:01:16 Don't forgay.

Joe Rogan 1:01:16 Because when we, when we first watched it, I went, "Oh, he's going hard in the paint on the USA and gays."

Brendan Schaub 1:01:20 But I remember thinking-

Joe Rogan 1:01:21 Don't forget Jesus.

Brendan Schaub 1:01:22 ... when I heard it that he was saying, "Don't forget," because a lot of