JRE MMA Show #88 with Frankie Edgar

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   Boom. What's up, Frankie?…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      Boom. What's up, Frankie? How are you, brother?

   2. FEFrankie Edgar0:02

      What's up, Joe?

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      Good to see you, man.

   4. FEFrankie Edgar0:03

      Hey, good to be here and see Joe.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:04

      Good to have you. We talked about this many times.

   6. FEFrankie Edgar0:06

      We have. Uh, you know, uh, my buddy, Chris Liguori, I gotta shout him out 'cause he got me listening to you, you know, years ago, and, uh, he's been telling me to come on this podcast for- forever. So, I'm fi- I'm glad to finally get it done, so shout out to Chris. I know he's listening.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Hi, Chris.

   8. FEFrankie Edgar0:19

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      Um, so you got your own podcast now?

   10. FEFrankie Edgar0:21

       I do. Uh, me and Roger Mathews from, uh, Jersey Shore fame, he was the ex-husband of, of J- J-Woww.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       (laughs)

   12. FEFrankie Edgar0:27

       Uh, so we- the Champ and the Tramp.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       (laughs)

   14. FEFrankie Edgar0:29

       Champ and the Tramp, yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Is that what you guys are called? (laughs)

   16. FEFrankie Edgar0:30

       Yeah, Champ and the Tramp.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       That's hilarious. That's hilarious. So, uh, what's happening, man? You, you just got off of the, um, Chan Sung Jung fight.

   18. FEFrankie Edgar0:38

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       And what's next? What are you up to?

   20. FEFrankie Edgar0:40

       I'm gonna go down 35.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       Yeah?

   22. FEFrankie Edgar0:42

       You know, uh-

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       How much do you walk around at?

   24. FEFrankie Edgar0:44

       I'm probably, like, 56 right now.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       Wow.

   26. FEFrankie Edgar0:46

       You know, so for (can opening) - for 45, or, well, for 55-

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Marlon's gotta be bigger than you, right?

   28. FEFrankie Edgar0:50

       Marlon is b- about a little bit bigger than me. Yeah, I think so. I think he walks around a little heavier. He's a little bit more of an eater than I am. (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       Dude, that guy, I can't- I have a hard time believing he makes 35 sometimes.

   30. FEFrankie Edgar1:00

       Yeah.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah, I'm seeing, like,…

   1. FEFrankie Edgar15:00

      but now these kids are polished right away, you know?

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:03

      Yeah, I'm seeing, like, 20-year-old kids with crazy skills.

   3. FEFrankie Edgar15:05

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      Yeah.

   5. FEFrankie Edgar15:06

      They're polished. They've been doing it for five years already.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:08

      You see that kid, uh, Edmen Shabazyan?

   7. FEFrankie Edgar15:11

      Yes.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:11

      You seen him?

   9. FEFrankie Edgar15:11

      Yes.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:12

       Fucking incredible.

   11. FEFrankie Edgar15:13

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:13

       He's, like, I think he's 21 now.

   13. FEFrankie Edgar15:15

       Right.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:15

       And he is just a fucking murderer, man.

   15. FEFrankie Edgar15:18

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:18

       It's crazy.

   17. FEFrankie Edgar15:19

       He's, it's, it's amazing that, um, 18 years older than some of these kids (laughs) , you know what I mean?

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:23

       That is crazy. When do you think you're gonna not do this anymore?

   19. FEFrankie Edgar15:28

       I don't know. You know, I, I always say I have three, three rules is, uh, as long as I'm enjoying it and I want to do it, as long as I'm competitive. I don't want to lose fights to guys I think I should be able to beat, and, uh, as long as my body holds up, so...

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       And how old are you now?

   21. FEFrankie Edgar15:44

       38.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       So for the lighter weight divisions, that's older.

   23. FEFrankie Edgar15:47

       That's older. Yeah, yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:49

       Yeah.

   25. FEFrankie Edgar15:49

       I, I mean, I, I feel good. My body feels good. I mean, always, always little injuries here and there.

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       Mm-hmm.

   27. FEFrankie Edgar15:54

       Um, but, uh, I, I enjoy it. It's still fun. You know, my last couple of fights didn't go the way I wanted them to, you know, what, what... Holloway, obviously, I thought he gave me a pretty good run, um, it was very-

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:05

       That was very good fight.

   29. FEFrankie Edgar16:06

       He's big dude. It was tough to, to kind of close that range, and I was in on some of his sh- some of his legs, I just couldn't really move him. He just felt like he was part of the, part of the... like a tree, you know? And then, uh, you know, took that fight with Crane Zambian, obviously didn't go as I expected, but, uh, you know, I got to bounce back from this one.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:24

       Wh- when you think about your preparation, like, between when you first started to now, like, as you get older, is there anything that you do differently?
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Oh. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

   2. FEFrankie Edgar30:00

      Oh.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      I also had it recently on my lower back 'cause I was getting, um-... uh, sciatica. Same shit. That fixed it. It- it's- it's basically a more potent version of platelet-rich plasma.

   4. FEFrankie Edgar30:12

      Okay.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:12

      Like, they heat the blood and they- they add something to it, and it's just a radical anti-inflammatory.

   6. FEFrankie Edgar30:18

      Right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:18

      And it's, you know, it's good 'cause it's also, it's your own blood, you know? They take your own blood out, spin it, and do this procedure to it.

   8. FEFrankie Edgar30:25

      Yeah, yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:25

      And then it takes like 12 hours, I think, 10 or 12 hours for the- it to become this ... They- it looks like this yellow serum.

   10. FEFrankie Edgar30:33

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:33

       And then this yellow serum, they inject into all your discs. I'm telling you, I had my friend, Dean Delraigo, down there. Dean had a real fucked up neck from a car accident. Some lady, he- he rides a motorcycle, some lady fucking clipped him and he went flying and it fucked his neck up to the point where we were ha- he's a comedian, we were hanging around The Comedy Store, and he gets nervous if anybody comes near him. Like, he's worried someone's gonna accidentally bump into him, and he was going, "Ah!"

   12. FEFrankie Edgar30:54

       And just be like, yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:55

       'Cause he was in so much pain.

   14. FEFrankie Edgar30:56

       Oh, man.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:56

       'Cause he was like real stiff. And so I sent him to that, uh, Lifespan Medicine place, and dude, he was (snaps fingers) fixed up. Like within a- a week or two, he was back.

   16. FEFrankie Edgar31:04

       Wow. Yeah, I- I would love to just be like a pin cushion, but they'd probably get me everywhere. (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:08

       Well, they can do crazy shit now, but it's a lot of money, you know?

   18. FEFrankie Edgar31:11

       Yeah, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:11

       And if you wanna travel to all these different spots.

   20. FEFrankie Edgar31:13

       Right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       It's, but it's- there's real benefit in this. My hope is that it's like cell phones. Remember when fucking cell phones were giant and they cost a billion dollars?

   22. FEFrankie Edgar31:22

       Right, right.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:22

       They were so expensive. And now you can get a cheap phone. Like, I saw a flip phone the other day at Best Buy for 50 bucks.

   24. FEFrankie Edgar31:28

       Wow, yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:29

       I was like, "You can get a phone for 50 bucks."

   26. FEFrankie Edgar31:31

       (laughs) It's not bad.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:31

       That's amazing.

   28. FEFrankie Edgar31:32

       Yeah, so hopefully stem cells goes that route. (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:34

       That's what I'm hoping. And I'm hoping that ... See, see the problem is like healthcare providers, like if you have insurance. Like insurance doesn't wanna cover any of that shit.

   30. FEFrankie Edgar31:42

       No, no, it doesn't make sense.
4. 45:00 – 59:06

   Handles are not there,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      tha- that's the positive aspect of the gi. The negative aspect of the gi is when guys go from the gi to MMA and they're looking for those handles, and the handles aren't there.

   2. FEFrankie Edgar45:08

      Handles are not there, yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:09

      Yeah. But Eddie always told us, "Just do the gi, but don't use collars. Don't use collars and sleeves." So my gi game was really just no gi-

   4. FEFrankie Edgar45:19

      No gi.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:19

      ... in a gi.

   6. FEFrankie Edgar45:19

      In a, in a gi.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:20

      Yeah.

   8. FEFrankie Edgar45:20

      That's kind of, I, I honestly probably, when I did the gi, I was mul- probably didn't grab as much as someone-

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:25

      Yeah.

   10. FEFrankie Edgar45:25

       ... so I wasn't used to it.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:26

       In desperado times, I'll grab the gi.

   12. FEFrankie Edgar45:28

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:28

       But for the-

   14. FEFrankie Edgar45:29

       Right, right. (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:29

       ... (laughs) you know-

   16. FEFrankie Edgar45:30

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:30

       ... gettin' fucked up. But for the most point, I think it's, you're better off just using overhooks and underhooks and cable grips and just working your s- your, your same positions that we do in no gi. So then, then you're doing the same game always.

   18. FEFrankie Edgar45:41

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:42

       But I th- I'm glad Ricardo said that, because to have such a, an accomplished Brazilian jujitsu artist like him, who's got this gigantic school and who was a accomplished fighter himself and now is a judge-

   20. FEFrankie Edgar45:53

       Right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:53

       ... to have him say that, like, yes.

   22. FEFrankie Edgar45:55

       Yes.

   23. JRJoe Rogan45:56

       For a long time, people got so connected to this idea that you need to do the gi in order to be good w- in MMA, which is no gi.

   24. FEFrankie Edgar46:03

       Yeah, it's just-

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:03

       It's slippery.

   26. FEFrankie Edgar46:04

       ... yeah. I mean, you know, even, like, Garry Tonon and Gordon Ryan-

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:07

       Mm-hmm.

   28. FEFrankie Edgar46:08

       ... I don't think those guys are in the gi very often, uh, uh, either.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:10

       Very rarely.

   30. FEFrankie Edgar46:11

       Yeah.

Episode duration: 2:11:07