JRE MMA Show #94 with Brendan Schaub

Joe Rogan 0:00 Quarantine, baby. How you holding up? (smacks lips)

Brendan Schaub 0:04 Getting through, man.

Joe Rogan 0:05 Are you weirded or just accepting it?

Brendan Schaub 0:07 I'm accepting it, and I'm, I'm trying to stay positive. I send you guys all the positive stats I get. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:13 (laughs) Well, I know several people that have gotten it and gotten over it. The worst was Michael Yeo. And I need to confirm this with Michael, but I'm pretty sure Michael had a cold, and then caught the corona, and then got pneumonia. And-

Brendan Schaub 0:25 Jesus Christ.

Joe Rogan 0:25 And he got it real bad.

Brendan Schaub 0:27 Yeah, he's bad.

Joe Rogan 0:27 He, he got it real bad. He was hospitalized for a week.

Brendan Schaub 0:30 Yeah, his posts choke me up. Did you see his Instagram posts?

Joe Rogan 0:32 Yes, yes. And you see him coughing while he's doing it.

Brendan Schaub 0:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:36 He's such a good guy.

Brendan Schaub 0:37 He's the nicest guy.

Joe Rogan 0:38 He's the nicest guy. If we lost him, that'd be fucking-

Brendan Schaub 0:41 It'd be a shame.

Joe Rogan 0:41 ... devastating. Um, I know people that have gotten it, gotten over it, not, not m- much of a problem. You know? And they, they just felt like shit for a couple days, and then they were fine.

Brendan Schaub 0:52 But that's the majority of people, Joe.

Joe Rogan 0:53 Majority of people.

Brendan Schaub 0:54 I know people get upset when I say that-

Joe Rogan 0:55 And it's true, though.

Brendan Schaub 0:56 ... it's true, though. Those are the numbers.

Joe Rogan 0:57 Yeah, there's-

Brendan Schaub 0:57 Majority of the people get it and they're fine.

Joe Rogan 0:59 Yeah. What I'm hoping is-

Brendan Schaub 1:02 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 1:02 ... they come up with, with a legitimate treatment where it's like, "This is confirmed that if you take hydroxychloroquine," you know, with Z-Pak.

Brendan Schaub 1:10 And the Z-Pak.

Joe Rogan 1:10 If they say something like that, this is confirmed, if they say, "W- we got it covered folks, we no longer have to worry about people dying of coronavirus."

Brendan Schaub 1:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:18 "We just catch it real early," sorta like Tamiflu-

Brendan Schaub 1:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:21 ... or some other things that... Look, staph used to fucking kill the shit out of people.

Brendan Schaub 1:25 Oh, tons.

Joe Rogan 1:25 You know? Killed a lot of people. Infections killed a lot of fucking people. Now, they give you antibiotics. I mean, imagine if jujitsu killed people. Imagine if you went to the gym and you got staph and you died. How many fucking people would train? I wouldn't train. Nobody would train.

Brendan Schaub 1:39 Hell, no.

Joe Rogan 1:39 You'd be so terrified of staph, right? Well, that's how we are right now with this coronavirus. We're worried because we don't have, like, a rock solid legitimate treatment or a vaccine.

Brendan Schaub 1:49 But that hydrochlorothiane, whatever the hell it is, it's Z-Pak-

Joe Rogan 1:52 Chloroquine.

Brendan Schaub 1:52 ... supposed to, supposed to work. The trials that they've seen, right?

Joe Rogan 1:55 Yeah. Well-

Brendan Schaub 1:55 For some people.

Joe Rogan 1:57 D- (sighs) You know that it's what they call anecdotal evidence. It's not 100% proven clinical trial, peer-reviewed where they can say, "Hey, we, we had a 160 people that were coronavirus positive. We put them on this hydroxychloroquine, 100%."

Brendan Schaub 2:09 It takes a lot of time.

Joe Rogan 2:10 It takes a lot of time.

Brendan Schaub 2:10 We don't have time.

Joe Rogan 2:11 Right. But the guy... There's a few doctors in New York that have implemented it and some, uh, some very positive results according to them. Now, is that, is that enough to, you know, to say, "Hey, we're good"? I don't... No, I don't think so. But-

Brendan Schaub 2:25 I think what's funny is in our group of friends, you have some who are, they won't step a foot outside their house, then you have some who are kinda in the middle, then you have some s- who are super loosey-goosey, you know? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:38 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 2:38 It's just like (sniffs) -

Joe Rogan 2:39 Those are the dangerous ones.

Brendan Schaub 2:39 ... it's just like a Rolodex.

Joe Rogan 2:40 The real problem is with people who are, are compromised, old people, you know, people whose immune system is already fragile. And now, the thing is if you or I got it, we'd be fine hopefully, but then what if you gave it to your grandma, you know what I mean?

Brendan Schaub 2:55 Don't go around your grandma, dumbass.

Joe Rogan 2:56 Don't go around your grandma. This is the real, the... I think the real way to handle this moving forward is probably going to be something along the lines of make sure that old people aren't exposed, make sure that high-risk people are not exposed, and make sure that you don't expose yourself to them if you have it.

Brendan Schaub 3:13 Correct.

Joe Rogan 3:14 And then, you know-

Brendan Schaub 3:15 Get your ass back to work.

Joe Rogan 3:16 Yeah. And hopefully there's some sort- sort of a treatment. But get your ass back to work is really important.

Brendan Schaub 3:20 Hell yeah, it is.

Joe Rogan 3:21 There's so many businesses that are going under. I don't think we've seen anything like this ever.

Brendan Schaub 3:24 It's scary, man.

Joe Rogan 3:24 Ever. In- in-

Brendan Schaub 3:26 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 3:26 ... I don't think ever in the history of America there's been a thing where everything just, like, instantly (snaps fingers) shut down. No one works, no one does anything, everyone stays home. When-

Brendan Schaub 3:35 And how long are we gonna do it for though?

Joe Rogan 3:37 Right. I think they're saying the end of May now.

Brendan Schaub 3:41 Really? 'Cause-

Joe Rogan 3:41 In California. That's what I've heard.

Brendan Schaub 3:42 Well, California, the, the governor's kind of a pussy.

Joe Rogan 3:46 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 3:46 And he's, he was talking about, you know, th- with this... We might go on, it might be like this for a year, you know? So-

Joe Rogan 3:51 Did he say that?

Brendan Schaub 3:51 Yeah. He said that. So again, he's a giant pussy. But when you hear Trump, he was talking to some reporter that asked him a question and he said, "I'm thinking, you know, we're not far off from after Easter opening things back up."

Joe Rogan 4:03 Mm. Yeah. Look, if people... (sighs) Fuck. There's so many people-

Brendan Schaub 4:08 It's so tough.

Joe Rogan 4:08 There's so-

Brendan Schaub 4:08 It's so tricky.

Joe Rogan 4:09 It's so, it's so tough. Like, look, if it's just us in this room, I am not that worried because I take a lot of vitamins, I'm in the fucking sauna every day, I have a very strong immune system.

Brendan Schaub 4:19 You're fit.

Joe Rogan 4:20 I take probiotics, I work out, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 4:21 When you walked in, I said, "I will lick your face right now." You said, "What are we doing? Hugging? What are we doing?" I said, "I will lick your fucking face, Joe."

Joe Rogan 4:26 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 4:26 "I'm not scared of shit." (claps hands) "I'm healthy as hell." (claps hands)

Joe Rogan 4:29 Yeah, but that's the difference between someone who's actively taking care of their body and does so all year round.

Brendan Schaub 4:35 Yes.

Joe Rogan 4:35 Versus people who are always boozing, have high blood pressure, are overweight. I'm talking to you, Berke Kreischer. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 4:41 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:41 All these, all these people-

Brendan Schaub 4:42 (laughs) You always think you're talking about... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:45 (laughs) I just wanna let him know that I am. Look, I love the guy, I don't want him to die.

Brendan Schaub 4:49 Me too.

Joe Rogan 4:50 There's a lot of people like that though that we're friends with that don't-

Brendan Schaub 4:52 That's on you, homie.

Joe Rogan 4:54 They don't... I know. It is on them.

Brendan Schaub 4:54 Get in shape, dude.

Joe Rogan 4:55 Yup, yup. If it, if it bounces right off you but it kills someone that's your age, whose fault is that?

Brendan Schaub 5:02 If- if they're severely-

Joe Rogan 5:03 It's kind of-

Brendan Schaub 5:03 ... out of shape-

Joe Rogan 5:04 ... it's kind of their fault.

Brendan Schaub 5:04 ... that's on you, man.

Joe Rogan 5:05 It's kind of their fault. Unless they have a disease. See, the- and then there's people that-

Brendan Schaub 5:08 That's a different animal.

Joe Rogan 5:09 Yeah, there's people that have diseases, and those diseases prevent them from being healthy. That's a different animal. So, and then you have to think about that percentage of the population. (sighs) There's so many variables, man.

Brendan Schaub 5:19 Dude, I went to, uh, th- this market, th- this giant market over-

Joe Rogan 5:22 Were they selling bats?

Brendan Schaub 5:23 No, but I would've bought one.

Joe Rogan 5:24 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 5:25 I love bats. Not for soup. I'd save them.

Joe Rogan 5:27 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 5:27 Um, but yeah, there, there's, like, this fresh market and there're peep- it was packed, man.

Joe Rogan 5:32 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 5:32 I'm like, "Goddamn." But everyone had a mask on and I saw two, like... I'm not even trying to be funny. They're probably equal 800 pounds, one probably 400 pounds, his wife another 400 pounds, with masks on. I'm like, "You..." That's what... You think the mask, that's what... That's not what's gonna kill you, homie.

Joe Rogan 5:46 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 5:47 That's not-

Joe Rogan 5:47 You're already fucked.

Brendan Schaub 5:48 You're the... Yeah, you're super fucked.Thin out the herd, man.

Joe Rogan 5:51 Well, I, I hope this is a wake-up call for people that aren't taking care of themselves because there's a lot of people that just think it's not necessary and they look at someone like you or I that's vain, that take ... That, you know, likes to ... Like, I often, I get up in the morning, I look at my body in the mirror. I'm like, "Oh."

Brendan Schaub 6:05 Oh, every morning.

Joe Rogan 6:05 "Looking good."

Brendan Schaub 6:06 Every morning.

Joe Rogan 6:06 "Looking good, looking good." (laughs) It gets-

Brendan Schaub 6:08 Oh, I straight up-

Joe Rogan 6:09 It gets- (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 6:09 I'm straight up old school Mr. Venice.

Joe Rogan 6:12 I, I fu-

Brendan Schaub 6:12 Me too.

Joe Rogan 6:13 I'll fuckin' s- I do it in front of my kids too. I was like, "What?"

Brendan Schaub 6:15 Oh, me too. (laughs) Me too.

Joe Rogan 6:15 I go, "What?"

Brendan Schaub 6:16 (laughs) Me too.

Joe Rogan 6:17 But it's fun.

Brendan Schaub 6:18 (laughs) Me too.

Joe Rogan 6:19 Yeah, they do it too.

Brendan Schaub 6:20 I got my-

Joe Rogan 6:20 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 6:20 I got my son up 'cause I ... We have a hot tub and pool, and the pool is freezing. And I've, I've been mountain biking every day, so my legs are sore. So, I go hot, cold, hot, cold.

Joe Rogan 6:28 Ah.

Brendan Schaub 6:28 And now he's doing it.

Joe Rogan 6:29 Oh, nice.

Brendan Schaub 6:29 He goes pop ... And he gets out. He goes, "Papa, I'm getting big muscles."

Joe Rogan 6:32 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 6:33 I said, "You're getting there, dude. You're getting there."

Joe Rogan 6:35 (laughs) My daughter got up real early today. Like, she woke ... Set her alarm for 8:00. And I go, "Why'd you get up at 8:00?" She goes, "'Cause I realize when I get up at 10:00 that I don't get as much done during the day and the day is shorter."

Brendan Schaub 6:45 Oh, man.

Joe Rogan 6:46 I go, "Wow." I go, "That's very wise." So, you know how kids are dabbing? She's got like a half-

Brendan Schaub 6:51 Doing this.

Joe Rogan 6:51 She does a half-dab now. It's just ...

Brendan Schaub 6:52 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:53 It's like a new thing. She says something. She goes, "I am wise."

Brendan Schaub 6:56 (laughs) I am wi- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:57 And she's like flexing on me. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 7:00 (claps hands) That kid's gonna be successful, man.

Joe Rogan 7:01 That's hilarious. She's th- ... She's a little beast. My 11-year-old's a beast.

Brendan Schaub 7:05 Ain't it crazy to see that?

Joe Rogan 7:07 It's crazy. It's weird. She's got all of my attributes, my like obsessive attributes, but without any of the, "I didn't have a good childhood." Like, she's got-

Brendan Schaub 7:16 That's trouble.

Joe Rogan 7:17 Well, it's d- ... Yeah, she's like super-

Brendan Schaub 7:17 In a good way.

Joe Rogan 7:18 She's super confident.

Brendan Schaub 7:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:20 She's not, like, doing it because, like, I want someone to love me.

Brendan Schaub 7:23 Yes.

Joe Rogan 7:23 I want to prove-

Brendan Schaub 7:23 Doesn't come from a dark place.

Joe Rogan 7:24 ... that I have value. Yeah, it's not coming from, "I want to be valu-" ... She's like, "I want to be awesome at everything."

Brendan Schaub 7:28 And that's when she's gonna thrive.

Joe Rogan 7:29 And she's always laughing. She laughs at everything. She's this funny kid, man. She's always laughing.

Brendan Schaub 7:35 I love it.

Joe Rogan 7:35 Yeah, she's always, like, crack- ... Like, she's- ... She'll say something like, "Bah!" She thinks-

Brendan Schaub 7:38 Nothing better.

Joe Rogan 7:39 She thinks things are funny. Like, she's got a very interesting sense of humor. It's weird w- seeing kids grow up, you know, with no, uh, no fear. You know, like, I grew up-

Brendan Schaub 7:52 Don't you worry about it though?

Joe Rogan 7:53 Yes. That's the-

Brendan Schaub 7:54 I worry about it.

Joe Rogan 7:54 That's the problem because they're so well taken care of. I feel like when y- ... O- o- all of our friends, like, almost everyone I know, to a man, that's interesting, ha- ha- and to a woman, had some sort of fucked up chaotic childhood.

Brendan Schaub 8:09 There's some darkness there.

Joe Rogan 8:10 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 8:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:10 That's what made them interesting. It's what made them successful in a lot of ways. But I don't know if it's necessary. I feel like there's valuable lessons that you can get. Like, for you, I think a lot of your lessons you got in sports, right?

Brendan Schaub 8:23 Correct. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:24 I think that's ... I think every kid, a real... It's all my friends that are fucked up, like emotionally, that can't deal with loss, they don't play sports. They never played sports. There's a lot of people that I know that didn't play sports that don't know how to lose.

Brendan Schaub 8:36 And that's such a disadvantage.

Joe Rogan 8:38 Oh, for sure.

Brendan Schaub 8:38 'Cause when you're playing sports when you're young, it ... I mean, it's hard times, man.

Joe Rogan 8:42 Oh, my God.

Brendan Schaub 8:42 And then we get ... As you get to the higher level, you know, in college, it's ... You know, it's pretty cutthroat, man. You learn to deal with these heartbreaking issues and pick up your boots and keep going.

Joe Rogan 8:50 You also develop a thick skin.

Brendan Schaub 8:53 Yes.

Joe Rogan 8:53 God. Oh, my God.

Brendan Schaub 8:54 And a chip on your shoulder.

Joe Rogan 8:55 A chip on your shoulder and a thick skin. Those always-

Brendan Schaub 8:56 The biggest chip on your shoulder.

Joe Rogan 8:57 So important to get through life though. You need that. You need to understand what competition ... You need to look at that person. Like, you know, like, uh, sparring. There's alwa- ... There was always that one dude you don't want to spar. You're like, "Oh, fuck this guy. I do not want to spar this guy." But you have to, and then-

Brendan Schaub 9:13 You have to. It's the only way to get better.

Joe Rogan 9:14 And then you ... There's this moment where you're lined up and there he is. And like, "Oh boy, time to get my ass kicked."

Brendan Schaub 9:20 But also in, in football, that's when I realized, oh, everybody's not treated the same. And that, that's, that's the real world. Like, we're not treated the same. Like, I remember the star running back, Bobby Purify. He ... You know, I've always been a huge shoe guy. He would get custom, one-of-one designer cleats and shoes in his locker.

Joe Rogan 9:37 Whoa.

Brendan Schaub 9:37 And then he'd give me these old ones.

Joe Rogan 9:39 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 9:39 And he was next to me. And I was like, "I get it. I get it."

Joe Rogan 9:42 Yeah, if you want-

Brendan Schaub 9:43 It hurt my feelings forever, man.

Joe Rogan 9:45 It has to.

Brendan Schaub 9:45 I was like, "God, those look sweet."

Joe Rogan 9:47 People get mad at people that are, like, uber successful, but those, those people like him, like, you know, the Jordans of the world, the people that are just like the fucking ah, the guy who's the ... What David Goggins likes to call uncommon amongst uncommon men.

Brendan Schaub 10:02 Yes.

Joe Rogan 10:02 You know, tho- ... That's just how life is and you see that and you realize where the benefits are in being that person. And then you also see the drawbacks.

Brendan Schaub 10:10 You see a huge drawback, especially in their personal life.

Joe Rogan 10:12 Oh. Oh, you, you're a crazy person.

Brendan Schaub 10:14 It's tough to manage outside that core ac- ... Outside that octagon, it's tough to manage.

Joe Rogan 10:18 I mean, talk to Tyson. Talk to Tyson about who he was when he was the king of the world. He couldn't manage it. I mean, no one, no one can main- maintain that. You gotta-

Brendan Schaub 10:25 Talk to Jon Jones right now.

Joe Rogan 10:26 Talk to Jon Jones right now. Right now. Yeah, right now. Yeah. I mean, t- ... I got s- ... This is the last, the last one with Jon Jones I got sad. That's the first time out of all the Jons things.

Brendan Schaub 10:38 This recent one?

Joe Rogan 10:38 Yeah, I got sad. I've been disappointed before, but this one I got sad. Um, because I watched that video, the vid- ... The arrest video. The arrest video was sad.

Brendan Schaub 10:48 Ah, it's such a bummer when you watch that video.

Joe Rogan 10:50 Y-

Brendan Schaub 10:50 You know, you know, you know what was a little alarming there? When, when I think CTE has something to do with this. I know we harp on CTE, but when he goes, "Hey, Jon, I need you to do this, this, and this." He goes, "I'm gonna warn you, my short-term memory is terrible."

Joe Rogan 11:02 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 11:02 "So, it's not because I'm drunk." And that wa- ... Even as he's drunk, he was cautious enough to say that. Saying, "Hey, man, my, my, my short-term memory is shit because I get punched in the head all the time."

Joe Rogan 11:12 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 11:12 "So, that ... So, if you're basing it off that, we're gonna be in trouble." I was like, "Oh, no."

Joe Rogan 11:16 I think that was a little bit of it.

Brendan Schaub 11:17 And his legs were so skinny. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:21 (laughs) It fucks people up with those skinny legs.

Brendan Schaub 11:23 Dude, they're so thin.

Joe Rogan 11:25 Well, his calves are crazy. His calves are so much smaller than mine, and I'm so much smaller than him.

Brendan Schaub 11:30 It's insane.

Joe Rogan 11:31 It doesn't make ... How about Will Sasso's calves?

Brendan Schaub 11:33 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 11:33 Those are the most ridiculous things. Calen and I spent 15 minutes on Will Sasso's calfs the other day.

Brendan Schaub 11:39 Fascinating.

Joe Rogan 11:39 They're crazy.

Brendan Schaub 11:39 Calen has good calves too.

Joe Rogan 11:41 They're not bad, but they're not Will Sasso's.

Brendan Schaub 11:42 No. Not Sass- ... No, Sasso.

Joe Rogan 11:43 Sasso seems like he should be able to jump over a building.

Brendan Schaub 11:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:46 Like, he should be able to just ... From a standing position, just launch himself, and it's-

Brendan Schaub 11:48 He looks like Hulk.

Joe Rogan 11:49 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 11:49 It literally looks like Hulk wearing fucking cutoff jeans.

Joe Rogan 11:52 Yeah. Now, Jon Jones. Now, imagine like, the Thiago Santos fight. The ... Look at this ... His calf.... that's preposterous.

Brendan Schaub 11:58 That's the one Brian had here. You see, Bri- Brian shaved his head and it's a-

Joe Rogan 12:01 When did he shave his head? What?

Brendan Schaub 12:03 ... tough cut. Like, two, two days ago.

Joe Rogan 12:04 No. Where's the pictures?

Brendan Schaub 12:06 Uh, I mean, I posted them on my Instagram story.

Joe Rogan 12:07 Yes, I need to see this.

Brendan Schaub 12:07 I don't wanna go too hard on him.

Joe Rogan 12:09 You should.

Narrator 12:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:10 I need to see this. I need... How come I didn't know? Why didn't he send me a picture? That's a good move for him, to shave his head.

Brendan Schaub 12:16 E- but he needs to go sh- he needs to go, uh, even more, 'cause the top is-

Joe Rogan 12:20 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 12:21 Yeah, he-he went-

Joe Rogan 12:21 Well, does he have the hair transplant scar? Yes, he does.

Brendan Schaub 12:23 He does. That's what I said.

Joe Rogan 12:24 He does.

Brendan Schaub 12:24 I said, "Oh, you have the same thing Rogan has."

Joe Rogan 12:26 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 12:26 But his is small and I go-

Joe Rogan 12:28 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 12:28 ... "You need to, you need to shave down more."

Joe Rogan 12:30 Yeah, he needs to go all the way.

Brendan Schaub 12:32 There he is.

Joe Rogan 12:32 Just go all the way. Yeah, good. Good for him. He probably feels free that way.

Brendan Schaub 12:38 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:38 It's freeing now that he... Look-

Brendan Schaub 12:40 He fucked up though, 'cause he cut it himself, so it's, like, all uneven.

Joe Rogan 12:43 Uh-oh.

Brendan Schaub 12:43 So I could not stop laughing.

Joe Rogan 12:44 Well, he needs to just get some trimmers. I- I cut mine myself, but I fucking go (imitates trimmer)

Brendan Schaub 12:48 But you're- you're a seasoned vet. You're a seasoned vet.

Joe Rogan 12:51 Yeah, but even the first time I did it, you just go all the way down to the bottom. Just go to the bottom. He's- he's got one of them trimmers on him where you leave a little bit of hair.

Brendan Schaub 12:58 That's what he has.

Joe Rogan 12:58 Yeah. I- I go to the bottom and then I let it grow, like, a few days-

Brendan Schaub 13:02 And then you go.

Joe Rogan 13:02 ... and then I go back to the bottom again. I just...

Narrator 13:04 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 13:04 He looks a little like Bruce Willis.

Joe Rogan 13:06 He looks... He doesn't look bad.

Brendan Schaub 13:07 He doesn't look... He needs to shave it more. Y- y- you gotta see it in person. It's a little... It's a long ass-

Joe Rogan 13:10 It's fucked up. I could not stop laughing.

Brendan Schaub 13:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:12 I could... We couldn't get through the show. I could not stop laughing.

Narrator 13:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:15 He's trying to be all serious. I just kept laughing. Well, that's Kallen, though.

Brendan Schaub 13:19 Yeah, the best.

Joe Rogan 13:20 He's- he's such a fucking charact- I don't know a single human like him. Try to find someone like him.

Brendan Schaub 13:25 No, never.

Joe Rogan 13:26 You're never gonna-

Brendan Schaub 13:26 He's going crazy at the corona. He gets mad.

Joe Rogan 13:28 Oh, God.

Brendan Schaub 13:29 He gets real mad.

Joe Rogan 13:29 Why does he get mad?

Brendan Schaub 13:30 Just 'cause we're on lockdown. He's, "W- when's this shit gonna end, man?"

Joe Rogan 13:33 When he's mad.

Brendan Schaub 13:33 "When we going back to restaurants?"

Joe Rogan 13:34 Th- the text message that he sends, he gets very angry. "I have to cook for himself."

Brendan Schaub 13:37 When they go back to restaurants... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:39 (laughs) Has to cook for himself. That's his big anger. He can't go to Via Veneto or Felix.

Brendan Schaub 13:44 Can't hang out with his friends.

Joe Rogan 13:45 That place, Felix, we were supposed to go, um, right before... Well, I went on the 14th. It was-

Brendan Schaub 13:51 With Kallen?

Joe Rogan 13:52 No, I went with my wife on the 14th, right before the lockdown. And we were like, "Should we go out? We should go out. Let's just go out. Let's just do it." We had reservations, but we had them, like, five days earlier and started getting... As it getting closer and closer, it seemed like everything was, like, kind of, shutting down. People were pulling away.

Brendan Schaub 14:07 Yeah, you could feel it.

Joe Rogan 14:07 And then it was, like, a couple days later that they shut down everything.

Brendan Schaub 14:10 But you did eat there?

Joe Rogan 14:11 Yeah, we ate there.

Brendan Schaub 14:12 It's good, huh?

Joe Rogan 14:13 Fucking fantastic. That place is awesome. Apparently, they and, um, a lot of other restaurants, they have to-go. I think Felix is doing Felix to-go. And so you just order-

Brendan Schaub 14:22 All of them have to do that.

Joe Rogan 14:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have.

Brendan Schaub 14:23 Fricking Flappers hit me up because they, uh, they have to... That's how they're making money. That's how they're covering their- their rent right now, is they have to sell the f-... And they have good food, but they have to do the takeout.

Joe Rogan 14:33 Mm-hmm. Well...

Brendan Schaub 14:33 Just to keep the doors open.

Joe Rogan 14:34 I'm glad people are innovating and they're coming up with ways to- to stay open, but it would be a real bummer if places like Felix went under or that other place that Kallen loves, Via Veneto, (clears throat) that place in Venice. That place is excellent too.

Brendan Schaub 14:47 Excellent. The thing about those, they have high rent.

Joe Rogan 14:49 Yes, high rent.

Brendan Schaub 14:50 And off Main Street.

Joe Rogan 14:51 Yep. I mean, they're- they're right on Abbot Kinney, right?

Brendan Schaub 14:54 Uh, they're- they're off Main Street. Well- well, Felix off Abbot.

Joe Rogan 14:57 They're off Main Street. Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 14:57 Yeah, even higher rent. What the fuck? Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:58 Yeah. Abbot Kinney's the-

Brendan Schaub 14:59 Abbot's the most expensive road in, uh, California.

Joe Rogan 15:01 Is it really?

Brendan Schaub 15:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:02 Yeah. Why does everybody like that area? Is it the homeless people that attracts them?

Brendan Schaub 15:05 There's a... It- it's like-

Joe Rogan 15:06 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 15:06 ... it's a weird vibe. (laughs) It's like the poorest of the poor and the richest of the rich.

Joe Rogan 15:11 It's so strange.

Brendan Schaub 15:11 It's so strange.

Joe Rogan 15:12 We were driving there and then we- we stopped at a red light. And there was, like, this nice house to the left, like, this super modern-looking Venice-style house. And right across the street, on the right was 20 tents.

Brendan Schaub 15:23 I know.

Joe Rogan 15:24 Camped out.

Brendan Schaub 15:25 It's such a bummer.

Joe Rogan 15:26 Just... Why do they let that happ-... That is the dumbest thing, that they let that happen.

Brendan Schaub 15:30 And you know what they do?

Joe Rogan 15:30 They let people take over the sidewalks.

Brendan Schaub 15:31 You- you know what these bums do to get- to get money, is if a house goes for sale or rent, these bums squat in front of the house so the seller or the renter has to come up and be like, "You guys gotta get outta here," and, like, pay us. So then they give them money, they leave and then they rent the house.

Joe Rogan 15:44 Man, there should be a service.

Brendan Schaub 15:46 It's a hustle.

Joe Rogan 15:47 Should be a service that cleans that up. It-

Brendan Schaub 15:49 It's called COVID-19.

Joe Rogan 15:50 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 15:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:51 I don't think it's affecting them. They already- they already had tuberculosis and fucking-

Brendan Schaub 15:55 The Black Plague.

Joe Rogan 15:55 ... Legionnaire's disease. They got everything.

Brendan Schaub 15:57 They got everything. They don't give a fuck.

Joe Rogan 15:58 Pr-... I mean, they were finding... What was that, uh, crazy medieval disease they were finding in, uh, bums and homeless people in Skid Row? Uh...

Brendan Schaub 16:07 Jesus Christ.

Joe Rogan 16:08 It was a crazy disease that they hadn't found... Goddammit. Do you remember it, Jamie? We were talking-

Narrator 16:14 Yeah, it- it's the... It sounds like the crazy, crazy one, but it's, like... Oh, typhus. It's typhus.

Joe Rogan 16:18 Typhus, yeah.

Narrator 16:18 It's, like, the precursor to typhoid fever.

Joe Rogan 16:20 Yeah. Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 16:20 Jesus Christ.

Joe Rogan 16:21 They found that? (laughs) Look-

Brendan Schaub 16:23 I don't know what you do.

Joe Rogan 16:24 I mean, people are worried about bats? How about people that shit on the street? What kind of... I mean, we're talking about diseases that have come out of these Chinese wet markets. There easily could be diseases that come out of LA, out of these- these homeless encampments.

Brendan Schaub 16:37 Yeah. But no one's eating homeless soup.

Joe Rogan 16:39 Well, I don't know what they're eating. Who knows what they're doing. But it's just not a matter of eating. It's a matter of being around all that waste.

Brendan Schaub 16:44 But I thought that's- that's how the- how this all got started is someone ate that bat soup.

Joe Rogan 16:48 No, they don't think it's eating it. No.

Brendan Schaub 16:49 Oh, really?

Joe Rogan 16:50 They think it's being near them. The- the whole idea... They think the f- patient zero, I believe the theory is, the current theory is patient zero... See- see who can find this, was traced to a woman that worked next to the bat stand.

Narrator 17:03 Yeah, that's the one. I remember we read it a few weeks ago.

Joe Rogan 17:04 Right.

Narrator 17:05 That may or may not be the actual patient zero, but-

Joe Rogan 17:07 Yeah, I don't think-

Narrator 17:08 ... now with time that could be.

Brendan Schaub 17:09 Is she still alive?

Narrator 17:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:10 I don't think they really, really... You know what's crazy? They can trace the genetics of this virus and they're saying that it came from people that came from Europe.

Brendan Schaub 17:18 What?

Joe Rogan 17:19 The... Yeah, in- in New York City, I should say. I mean, it obviously came from China, but the people that got it in New York City got it from people who traveled to New York City from Europe. And like-

Brendan Schaub 17:28 And those Europeans were in China, went back home to Europe-

Joe Rogan 17:31 Yes.

Brendan Schaub 17:31 ... then came to New York.

Joe Rogan 17:32 Yeah. And they think it-

Brendan Schaub 17:33 Bastards.

Joe Rogan 17:34 ... might have gotten here as early as December and maybe even November. Like, they don't even know.

Brendan Schaub 17:39 I heard November.

Joe Rogan 17:40 I think November. They think it g- they think-... two, they got there two weeks at least before the first case. And there's many people that could have gotten it that did not know that they got it and got over it.

Brendan Schaub 17:52 And I know, I know it's the coolest thing to say right now, dude, I'm telling you when I was doing Ontario Improv in end of Nov- or December, I was the sickest I've ever been and it lasted for 12 to 14 days. And I told my brother, "You might have to take me to the emergency room." After I got done with my last show, I was like, we were driving home, I'm like, "We might have to go to the emergency room." I felt-

Joe Rogan 18:08 Really?

Brendan Schaub 18:09 ... so fucking, the sickest I've ever been.

Joe Rogan 18:11 What, wh- in what way? What were you...

Brendan Schaub 18:12 I, uh, I had shakes, cold sweats. I, uh, I was just sick, man. Was just super-

Joe Rogan 18:18 Coughing?

Brendan Schaub 18:18 Sick, coughing, horrible coughing.

Joe Rogan 18:19 Huh.

Brendan Schaub 18:20 It was bad.

Joe Rogan 18:21 See, the thing is, that could also be a bad flu. It's the thing-

Brendan Schaub 18:23 Yeah, who knows?

Joe Rogan 18:24 Yeah. Look, this is one of the things that we, in this text thread that you and I are in, we, we started sharing the numbers of people that have died from the flu. That is, it's stunning, man.

Brendan Schaub 18:34 It's alarming.

Joe Rogan 18:34 It's stunning. I didn't know. I mean, I knew a lot of people died from the flu, but until you see it on paper, you're like, "What? That many?"

Brendan Schaub 18:41 Man, imagine if CNN did a whole marketing thing on how the flu's killing everyone every day.

Joe Rogan 18:46 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 18:46 And there's this fucking, puts all this fear in everybody. If they did every day like they're doing for corona, we'd be scared shitless, man.

Joe Rogan 18:51 True, but there's some preventative measures to deal with the flu.

Brendan Schaub 18:53 Correct. We have the vaccine. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:55 And then we have, we, uh, well, flu shots, and we also have Tamiflu. There's a bunch of different remedies. We know what the flu is.

Brendan Schaub 19:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:01 This is a, this is a really dangerous one, because it, it does something to your respiratory system where it scars the lining of the respiratory system. It scars people's lungs. And there's so much inflammation that they can't get oxygen.

Brendan Schaub 19:13 Here's the other issues. They're saying that you probably have it two days before you sh- start, start showing signs.

Joe Rogan 19:19 If you show signs at all.

Brendan Schaub 19:21 Yeah, some don't at all.

Joe Rogan 19:22 Idris Elba apparently never showed any signs. "Stanford studies coronavirus early spread in California, looks at herd immunity potential. Researchers at Stanford University are trying to determine if the novel coronavirus may have been circulated in California as early as last fall."

Brendan Schaub 19:36 Your boy had it.

Joe Rogan 19:37 "And whether it's playing a role in the relative slow spread in the state." Wow. I hope we do have herd immunity. Let's get back to the store.

Brendan Schaub 19:43 Oh, dear God.

Joe Rogan 19:43 Please, herd immunity. Come on.

Brendan Schaub 19:46 Joey Diaz called me the other day just to reach out to tell me he loves me and making sure I'm doing the right things.

Joe Rogan 19:52 You're doing the right thing, dog.

Brendan Schaub 19:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:53 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 19:53 I fucking love you, Brendan Schaub. I'm like, "All right, man." Um, but yeah, I, I, we were talking about The Comedy Store, and I was like, "They'll be fine, though." He's like, "Maybe."

Joe Rogan 20:01 Yeah, maybe. It's a big maybe. It's a lot of money to run that place. Especially on Sunset.

Brendan Schaub 20:06 Fortunately, fortunately, for the last six years, they've been making a shitload of money.

Joe Rogan 20:12 Yeah, if they're smart-

Brendan Schaub 20:13 You know, if they've been doing it really well.

Joe Rogan 20:13 ... they should be okay.

Brendan Schaub 20:14 I think they, well, Peter Schorr is a very, very bright man.

Joe Rogan 20:17 Very smart.

Brendan Schaub 20:17 Very smart. And I think he's doing the right thing. And I think, uh, I think they'll be okay. Look, we could always do a shitload of shows when the sh- store comes back and donate all the money. I'm happy to do that. I'm happy to do that.

Joe Rogan 20:30 I'd, I'd give them rent right now.

Brendan Schaub 20:32 I'll tell everybody, uh, if you didn't see my Instagram, my shows with Dave Chappelle have been moved to September. But the, when I say moved to September, I go like this.

Joe Rogan 20:40 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 20:41 You're gonna do it in September, Joe.

Joe Rogan 20:42 (clears throat)

Brendan Schaub 20:42 I saw your post on New York. You were like, "Co-" When is that? November 3rd?

Joe Rogan 20:45 October 3rd, yes.

Brendan Schaub 20:46 You're doing it? Hey, dude. It's happening October, I bet, in New York.

Joe Rogan 20:49 I hope so. I hope so.

Brendan Schaub 20:51 Come on.

Joe Rogan 20:52 That Fauci guy said people aren't gonna shake hands anymore. Did you see that shit?

Brendan Schaub 20:55 I'm bowing to everyone from now on.

Joe Rogan 20:57 Bowing. (imitates yelping) They're like, "What?"

Brendan Schaub 20:59 (hyrics) Hai-tee.

Joe Rogan 20:59 "I like that."

Brendan Schaub 21:00 Just 'cause it's cool.

Joe Rogan 21:00 "I like that." Or you could do it Thai style. (imitates singing)

Brendan Schaub 21:03 Just... Mm. No, fuck no.

Joe Rogan 21:05 Yeah. That's not bad. Steven Seagal style. I'm gonna wear beads, but not, I'm just gonna wrap them around my wrists.

Brendan Schaub 21:09 (laughs) Just sort of like this.

Joe Rogan 21:11 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 21:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:12 (laughs) There's been a lot of knuckleheads online with this, uh, coronavirus talking about healing and positive energy and manifesting-

Brendan Schaub 21:22 Oh, no. Oh, no.

Joe Rogan 21:23 ... your truth and so much nonsense.

Brendan Schaub 21:26 There's a lot of nonsense, a lot of bro science. I throw a lot of bro science out there, but I go off a lot of numbers that I get from way smarter people than me.

Joe Rogan 21:33 Yeah, but you're, you're, what you're doing is you're tweeting actual facts and then throwing a little bro science into the mix.

Brendan Schaub 21:39 Correct. That's also my career in general.

Joe Rogan 21:41 What, what I'm talking about is just so many people that are just, you know, "This is a global transformation and this is our opportunity."

Brendan Schaub 21:49 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 21:49 I hope everybody gets better out of this. I hope, I hope people recognize that our society is fragile.

Brendan Schaub 21:56 Don't you see a lot... This is an- another positive. Do you see a lot more people working out?

Joe Rogan 22:00 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 22:00 Like, when I get ready to go on my, my, uh, bike ride, I see so many more people walking, kids-

Joe Rogan 22:06 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 22:06 ... families. I...

Joe Rogan 22:06 They have time.

Brendan Schaub 22:07 This what it took to, to get you guys to fucking walk outside?

Joe Rogan 22:10 Well, most people-

Brendan Schaub 22:12 Time.

Joe Rogan 22:12 ... you know, they, they, they don't... I mean, unless you're working from home or, you know, you're, um... If you're in any kind of service industry, your job is gone, all right?

Brendan Schaub 22:21 That's fair. Fair enough.

Joe Rogan 22:22 For now. So they have time. There's a lot of people whose jobs are shut down. I don't know what the numbers are, but there's a lot more people-

Brendan Schaub 22:28 Oh, man, tons.

Joe Rogan 22:28 ... at home during the day. A lot of people are home schooling their kids. Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 22:33 That's a, there- there's part of me that when Dana came out and said he's gonna do the UFC, there's part of me that was, uh, super proud of him. Just, you know, I, I, I know he was gonna get a lot of blowback for it and the UFC's getting a lot of blowback for it. But a part of me was like, "Fuck yeah, dude. Good for you, man."

Joe Rogan 22:50 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 22:50 "For figuring it out. Good for you. Good for you."

Joe Rogan 22:54 Pretty gangster move. Go to an Indian reservation.

Brendan Schaub 22:57 Really g- and then went, "And for international fights, how about an island, bitches?"

Joe Rogan 23:00 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 23:00 It's like, wait, what? Is this Mortal Kombat?

Joe Rogan 23:03 Well, I bet, I bet someone who, uh, Enter the Dragon. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 23:06 (laughs) Wait, what? Island fights? Yeah, don't worry about it. I'm not gonna tell you where it's at. I'm not telling anybody. We're just gonna, you're gonna get on a flight, private flight, and we're flying you to the island, you and your team." I was like, (sighs) "I hope they fight on the sand."

Joe Rogan 23:17 I hope they fight in the sand.

Brendan Schaub 23:17 I can't hate on the guy. I can't hate on the guy anymore, man. He's fucking-

Joe Rogan 23:19 I hope they fight in the sand.

Brendan Schaub 23:20 Oh, it'd be so sick.

Joe Rogan 23:22 (laughs) Right on the beach.

Brendan Schaub 23:23 So sick.

Joe Rogan 23:23 Do you remember Bodog, when Bodog had fights on the beach?

Brendan Schaub 23:26 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:28 Bodog was interesting, man. People forgot about Bodog.

Brendan Schaub 23:31 Fedor started there. Cain started there.

Joe Rogan 23:33 Yeah. Well, Fedor didn't start there. Fedor went to there.

Brendan Schaub 23:34 Oh, I'm sorry. He did start there, but he- he did fight on there. Cain, I think, uh... He fought on there, started there.

Joe Rogan 23:39 Yeah, Cain started there. Yeah, yeah, as, uh, Masvidal fought Yves Edwards there.

Brendan Schaub 23:42 That's right.

Joe Rogan 23:43 Stopped him with a head kick.

Brendan Schaub 23:44 Fuck, dude.

Joe Rogan 23:44 Yeah. Dude, there were some great fights. Remember when Fedor... Did Fedor fight Matt Lindland on Bodog? Was that Bodog in Russia?

Brendan Schaub 23:50 Or was that Affliction?

Joe Rogan 23:51 ... no, I don't think so.

Brendan Schaub 23:53 I think you're right.

Joe Rogan 23:53 I think Fedor and Matt Lindland was Bodog and r- ... and I think Matt Lindland was about to take Fedor down and Fedor grabbed the rope. And it was a big controversy.

Brendan Schaub 24:03 Oh, that's right, he grabbed the rope and then he knocked him out, right?

Joe Rogan 24:05 Well, he s- ... Yeah, he, he-

Brendan Schaub 24:05 He slammed him?

Joe Rogan 24:07 ... I think he submitted him. I think he submitted him. Uh, here it is. Matt Lindland and Fedor.

Brendan Schaub 24:11 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 24:12 Yeah. So-

Brendan Schaub 24:13 I know he slams him.

Joe Rogan 24:14 Matt Lindland, who at the time, I'm pretty sure he submitted him, I c- ... I think he got him in an arm bar.

Brendan Schaub 24:19 He did, he submitted him, but I, I, I remember him slamming him for some reason.

Joe Rogan 24:21 But, but, b- ... Go before that though. (coughs) Matt Lindland's knees-

Brendan Schaub 24:25 Matt Lindland's knees always scared me.

Joe Rogan 24:26 ... he got double under ... Yeah, he's got him in an arm bar there. So Matt Lindland made the ... got the clinch. I believe he got double underhooks. Yep. And, and now look, he's-

Brendan Schaub 24:34 He wraps it around.

Joe Rogan 24:34 ... elevating Fedor and Fedor's grabbing the fucking rope. Totally grabbed the rope. And look, who ... Is that Dan Miragliotta who's trying to-

Brendan Schaub 24:43 Looks like Eve, Eve Levine.

Joe Rogan 24:46 I don't know. Eve Edwards? Eve Levine?

Brendan Schaub 24:46 Eve Levine.

Joe Rogan 24:46 Eve Edwards, Eve Levine. But look, he kept grabbing the rope and Mi- ... Like Matt Lindland had him and grabbed the rope.

Brendan Schaub 24:51 Holy sh- ... Yeah, and then he reversed it.

Joe Rogan 24:52 And then used it to reverse them.

Brendan Schaub 24:53 Yeah, that's what I remember.

Joe Rogan 24:54 Cheater.

Brendan Schaub 24:55 Fuck, dude.

Joe Rogan 24:56 Oh, f-

Brendan Schaub 24:56 Fucking Russians, am I right?

Joe Rogan 24:58 So che- ... (laughs) Yeah. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 25:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:00 Well, in that moment, that's just straight up cheating. I mean, and that's how he got top position. Matt Lindland took him down.

Brendan Schaub 25:07 Yeah, Bodog was always great.

Joe Rogan 25:07 And meanwh- ... Matt Lindland is a fucking guy who fought at 170, he fought at 185. Did he fight at 170? That-

Brendan Schaub 25:14 He was so tough.

Joe Rogan 25:16 Definitely fought 180. 185, tough as fuck.

Brendan Schaub 25:17 185. He was so tough.

Joe Rogan 25:18 Tough as fuck. About as tough as it gets.

Brendan Schaub 25:20 You h- ... You hear the stories about him at a ... with him, Rendo, Chael Sonnen.

Joe Rogan 25:24 Oh, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 25:25 Just the-

Joe Rogan 25:25 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 25:26 ... who's who, man.

Joe Rogan 25:26 But he got fucked there though.

Brendan Schaub 25:28 Yeah, he did.

Joe Rogan 25:28 That's bullshit.

Brendan Schaub 25:29 Hey, man.

Joe Rogan 25:30 That's the problem with ropes though, right? It's like it's right there.

Brendan Schaub 25:32 Yeah, ropes, they can always do it.

Joe Rogan 25:34 Remember when ... There was, uh, a couple moments in Pride where guys got trapped in the ropes and then submitted.

Brendan Schaub 25:39 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 25:39 Somebody got triangled while their head was trapped in the rope-

Brendan Schaub 25:43 (coughs)

Joe Rogan 25:43 ... and then they got triangled on top of that.

Brendan Schaub 25:45 There's also nothing worse when you get knocked out and you fall through the ropes.

Joe Rogan 25:48 Oh my God, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 25:49 It's so embarrassing.

Joe Rogan 25:50 Well, how about Bernard Hopkins, last fight of his career, when he fought Joe Smith? Joe Smith KOs him, well, he drops him, and, and M- ... Bernard goes through the ropes and hits his head on the ground.

Brendan Schaub 26:01 Oh.

Joe Rogan 26:01 Which is crazy.

Brendan Schaub 26:02 Nice.

Joe Rogan 26:02 You're like, "How do you fucking guys not have wi- ... Like, are, are w- ... Is the, uh, apron of, uh, a ring for boxing that expensive? Why can't you make it bigger? Why can't you make it so that a guy doesn't fall?"

Brendan Schaub 26:15 Or have security where if they see something, you know?

Joe Rogan 26:18 Well, they, they would have to act quickly and be there in time and y- ... So they'd have to be around, standing in all this means-

Brendan Schaub 26:23 On the ring. That'd be a little distracting.

Joe Rogan 26:25 It would be hugely distracting, and it'd be terrible for the people that are watching. But, I mean, all you had to do is, like, what ... Do you remember what Bellator did? What Bellator did when they were doing kickboxing and, uh, MMA at the same time, so they have this round ring for Bellator, and then they put a square ring in the center of that for kickboxing.

Brendan Schaub 26:42 Oh, that's right.

Joe Rogan 26:42 So if you fell through the ropes, you just fell out into that round-

Brendan Schaub 26:45 That's what I did.

Joe Rogan 26:46 ... area where the Bellator cage would be. It was perfect.

Brendan Schaub 26:48 Well, to be ... play devil's advocate, if you're boxing though, you're like, "Dude, how many times have people fallen out of the fucking ring?" We know it's Bernard Hopkins-

Joe Rogan 26:54 What if Bernard Hopkins died from that?

Brendan Schaub 26:56 I mean, he's also 70 years old fighting, so it's like-

Joe Rogan 26:58 He was 51 or 52, I think.

Brendan Schaub 27:00 I mean, come on, dude.

Joe Rogan 27:01 It's crazy.

Brendan Schaub 27:01 Fighting this young, fucking un- ... Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 27:03 Oh, yeah, look at this too. Caught in a triangle inside the ropes, so his leg is wrapped up in the rope, and the dude's caught in a triangle. Crazy.

Brendan Schaub 27:11 Jesus Christ.

Joe Rogan 27:12 Ridiculous. Yeah, it's happened more than once too. (coughs) People have been arm barred that way too.

Brendan Schaub 27:18 Did you think, uh, UFC 249 was gonna happen?

Joe Rogan 27:22 I didn't know what was gonna happen. When Khabib couldn't make it, I was like, "I bet this is gonna be the end of it."

Brendan Schaub 27:26 Me too, I was like, "Oh, it's over."

Joe Rogan 27:27 But then I saw Kamaru Usman saying, "You better get ready to m- ... make weight, bitch," and I was like, "Oh, my God, if Usman fights Masvidal, holy shit."

Brendan Schaub 27:34 Christ.

Joe Rogan 27:35 "Like, that's worth it. That's a fight." But then when I heard it was Gaethje and Ferguson, I'm like, "Oh, shit."

Brendan Schaub 27:41 First team, all violence.

Joe Rogan 27:43 I don't know what Gaethje's been doing though. Has he been training like he's training for a fight?

Brendan Schaub 27:48 I don't know. They, they asked him. I saw, I think it was Brett, uh, Okamoto goes, uh, "How prepared are you?" And he ... It took him a while to answer and then he, he said something to him and I was like, "Oh, this could be tough." He goes, "I have 18 minutes in me."

Joe Rogan 28:03 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 28:04 (laughs) He g- ... He goes, "All, all ... You know, all my fights, I, I don't go decision. I either get knocked out or I knock somebody out." He goes, uh, "You know, I talk to my family, I talk to my coaches, I now have 18 minutes of fucking fury." And he goes, "And it's pretty tough to deal with." And I was like, "God-

Joe Rogan 28:16 It is tough to deal with, but if anybody-

Brendan Schaub 28:18 It's the toughest to deal with.

Joe Rogan 28:19 But if there's anybody that has the endurance to take it to that 18 minutes and keep going, it's Tony.

Brendan Schaub 28:25 He, he, he-

Joe Rogan 28:25 Tony has the most endurance I've ever seen.

Brendan Schaub 28:27 But the only, the only thing that's a little scary when I heard him say that, he does throw caution to the wind, Gaethje does, and it's tough to deal with 'cause he's probably the hardest hitter at 55, and Tony gets hit, man. That's one thing about Tony-

Joe Rogan 28:38 Doesn't get hit.

Brendan Schaub 28:38 He does like to get hit. He- he-

Joe Rogan 28:40 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 28:40 I think he actually enjoys it and he welcomes it. With Gaethje, I don't know if he can play that game, especially for 18 minutes.

Joe Rogan 28:46 Well, I don't know if he enjoys it, I just think that he has this pressure forward style.

Brendan Schaub 28:50 He's game for it, is what I mean.

Joe Rogan 28:51 Yeah, he's, he's game.

Brendan Schaub 28:52 He's game.

Joe Rogan 28:52 He's 100% game for it. But he has such a pressure style that it's inevitable that you get hit, you know? He's not fighting like Wonderboy or something like that, he's not fighting elusive-

Brendan Schaub 29:00 No.

Joe Rogan 29:00 ... or mighty mouse. He's fighting ... He's, he's trying to break you. I mean, in Tony's fights, there's somewhere around the second or third round where you see the look in these guys' faces, like, "Motherfucker."

Brendan Schaub 29:09 I know.

Joe Rogan 29:09 "How is he keeping up this pace?"

Brendan Schaub 29:11 Justin's kind of the same way, he just goes forward like a little tank.

Joe Rogan 29:14 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 29:14 Just keeps going.

Joe Rogan 29:15 He did-

Brendan Schaub 29:15 It's such a good fight.

Joe Rogan 29:16 My favorite fight with Justin was-

Brendan Schaub 29:18 (coughs)

Joe Rogan 29:18 ... Barboza, 'cause Barboza's a savage and Justin just ran him over.

Brendan Schaub 29:23 Fucked him up.

Joe Rogan 29:23 Ran him over.

Brendan Schaub 29:24 His fight with Poirier, and his fight with Eddie Alvarez, although he lost both-

Joe Rogan 29:27 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 29:27 ... but all of them are good, man.

Joe Rogan 29:28 Oh, they were great. Uh, Poirier, his leg was almost done. It was almost done, but Poirier pulled it out with a knockout.

Brendan Schaub 29:34 Poirier actually came out on record and said he thinks Gaethje's gonna win.

Joe Rogan 29:37 Really?

Brendan Schaub 29:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:39 That's 'cause he's never fought Tony, you know? He's fought Gaethje and beat him, and it would be great if Gaethje beat Tony and then it makes him look good.

Brendan Schaub 29:47 We-

Joe Rogan 29:47 I don't necessarily know if that's...... I mean- (sighs) I, it's not that Tony can't win. It's not that, uh, b- of- f- that Gaethje can't win either. It's like, who... I- in my opinion, this is a who the fuck knows.

Brendan Schaub 29:59 It's a who the fuck knows, especially in these conditions.

Joe Rogan 30:01 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 30:01 It's like, what camp have they had? Especially Justin, you know?

Joe Rogan 30:05 Well, I know Tony's had a camp.

Brendan Schaub 30:06 Tony's had a camp, but y- you gotta real- e- everything's, everything's not normal, like you're not getting the same amount of guys in that training room.

Joe Rogan 30:12 Yeah, but Tony's not normal.

Brendan Schaub 30:13 (laughs) To- Tony's not normal.

Joe Rogan 30:15 Tony, if Tony-

Brendan Schaub 30:15 If anyone's gonna thrive in the situation, it's Tony.

Joe Rogan 30:17 Yeah. He didn't... You know, he didn't spar at all, apparently, according to everyone that I've talked to-

Brendan Schaub 30:22 His camp.

Joe Rogan 30:22 ... for, for the Pettis fight-

Brendan Schaub 30:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:24 ... after his surgery. So the guy has knee surgery, like a really complex knee surgery, where his ligament is reattached to his leg and he has a m- massive scar. I mean, he's got a 12-inch scar on the side of his leg. Five months later, he's fighting again.

Brendan Schaub 30:38 He's crazy.

Joe Rogan 30:39 That's nuts. That's nuts. And didn't do any sparring, just, just rehabbed everything, got himself in shape.

Brendan Schaub 30:45 He looked pretty good.

Joe Rogan 30:46 He looked fucking fantastic.

Brendan Schaub 30:47 He got wobbled in that fight.

Joe Rogan 30:48 Of course he did. He was fighting Pettis. Pettis is a master striker. Pettis knocked out Wonderboy with a Superman punch.

Brendan Schaub 30:53 100%. (hand slaps on table)

Joe Rogan 30:55 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 30:55 I- I don't know if he can take those same hits the way G- Gaethje hits, though.

Joe Rogan 30:58 That's a good question. Gaethje, you know, Gaethje comes after you, man. He comes out and he's got phe- nominal leg kicks. His leg kicks are sensational. And he throws leg kicks from crazy angles too, like he'll, he'll be like right up tight with you, like right here, and he's chopping at your leg. It's kinda...

Brendan Schaub 31:15 It's amazing.

Joe Rogan 31:15 It's interesting how he does it, like he's not a- he's not... He doesn't have a Muay Thai background, which is really crazy, though.

Brendan Schaub 31:21 See, he just learned to kick about four years ago.

Joe Rogan 31:23 Well, more than that, 'cause I remember in the PFL he was fucking people up with leg kicks.

Brendan Schaub 31:25 I'm just saying like he's not... He has no kickboxing background.

Joe Rogan 31:28 Right, right, right.

Brendan Schaub 31:28 He came from University of Northern Colorado to Grudge Training Center with Trevor Whitman and all of us-

Joe Rogan 31:33 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 31:33 ... and came in there as a, a pure wrestler with terrible eyesight. He'd always take his glass off and squint-

Joe Rogan 31:38 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 31:38 ... and he's just this fucking monster.

Joe Rogan 31:41 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 31:41 And then he started teaching the leg kicking, like holy shit, the guy can leg kick.

Joe Rogan 31:44 But it's crazy how good he does it.

Brendan Schaub 31:46 He's amazing at it.

Joe Rogan 31:47 His leg kicks are sensational, like you would think that he was some Muay Thai champion or something like that.

Brendan Schaub 31:52 It's amazing.

Joe Rogan 31:53 Yeah. Yeah, I mean-

Brendan Schaub 31:54 This is what I want. I wanna see Tony shoot for a takedown.

Joe Rogan 31:58 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 31:59 I don't know why... I, I, I know obviously Justin Gaethje has phenomenal wrestling, he's so athletic and he was a All-American at Northern Colorado. Tony's a stud too, I think he's a Juco champ.

Joe Rogan 32:07 A stud.

Brendan Schaub 32:07 So, let's... M- someone shoot in on the fucking guy.

Joe Rogan 32:11 That's-

Brendan Schaub 32:11 Well, no one does it.

Joe Rogan 32:12 Yeah, no one does it. Well, the... What's interesting about Gaethje is you never see him wrestling.

Brendan Schaub 32:16 Never.

Joe Rogan 32:16 That's what's so crazy. It's like the guy's got this great wrestling pedigree, but he just strikes at everybody and smashes, and, and smashes real strikers like Barboza.

Brendan Schaub 32:25 He wants to be violent.

Joe Rogan 32:26 Yeah, it's-

Brendan Schaub 32:27 He wants it all violent.

Joe Rogan 32:27 It's so nuts. He's so unique.

Brendan Schaub 32:29 This, this, this fight's actually... N- not that... You know, obviously you want Khabib-Tony, that's the greatest fight in UFC history, I think, at lightweight.

Joe Rogan 32:35 It's cursed!

Brendan Schaub 32:36 It's fucking... Dude, it's such a shame.

Joe Rogan 32:38 Cursed!

Brendan Schaub 32:38 It, it, it... He might... Five times?

Joe Rogan 32:40 Five times it's been canceled.

Brendan Schaub 32:42 Five times? What are... What the fuck? I wanna see that. That's the fight of the two, the best 155s on the planet. But Gaethje-Tony, I think will be more entertaining.

Joe Rogan 32:51 Are you serious?

Brendan Schaub 32:51 'Cause they're so violent, they're so fu-... Think of these two fucking maniacs. There's... Thi- this fight can't be boring. It's impossible to be boring.

Joe Rogan 32:59 I don't think... I think you're right, I don't think it can be boring. However, I said that about Stylebender versus Yoel Romero. I thought that was gonna be chaos.

Brendan Schaub 33:08 Well, you didn't know Yoel wasn't gonna fight.

Joe Rogan 33:10 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 33:11 I guarantee you Gaethje and Tony are gonna fight.

Joe Rogan 33:14 Well, I, I also said that-

Brendan Schaub 33:14 I bet my bottom dollar.

Joe Rogan 33:15 ... about Ngannou and D- Derrick Lewis.

Brendan Schaub 33:18 I didn't know Derr- Derrick Lewis had... fucking back gave out, and I didn't know Francis had a blown fucking ACL or whatever it was.

Joe Rogan 33:23 Did he? Francis had a blown ACL?

Brendan Schaub 33:24 He, some... So he was injured in that fight. Both of them were injured.

Joe Rogan 33:27 I didn't know Francis was injured. I thought he was just... M- his mind was hesitant because of this DPA fight.

Brendan Schaub 33:30 Uh, apparently both of them had injuries.

Joe Rogan 33:32 Oh, I didn't know that. Bro, that's a fight this weekend.

Brendan Schaub 33:35 No one's ti-... You know what's co-main event now?

Joe Rogan 33:37 Ngannou and Rosenstrake.

Brendan Schaub 33:37 You know what's co-main?

Joe Rogan 33:38 It should be. I- it should be.

Brendan Schaub 33:40 I take- They had Greg Hardy and whoever the fuck he's fighting above that.

Joe Rogan 33:44 Oh, that's-

Brendan Schaub 33:44 I'm like, "What are you guys doing?"

Joe Rogan 33:45 I think that was because it was on ESPN and the other one was, was on ESPN+. I think the idea was that you're gonna have Ngannou and Rosenstrake, which is just fucking-

Brendan Schaub 33:51 It's like the main event for ESPN+.

Joe Rogan 33:53 That's, that's, that's Disneyland at the end of the night. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

Brendan Schaub 33:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:57 That fight is crazy. Rosenstrake, b- people better not be sleeping on him, man.

Brendan Schaub 34:01 No.

Joe Rogan 34:01 He's a terrifying man.

Brendan Schaub 34:03 He's a professional kickboxer.

Joe Rogan 34:05 And he takes a tremendous shot. You look at Overeem, didn't do nothing to him.

Brendan Schaub 34:10 No.

Joe Rogan 34:10 They, they fought for the entire five rounds, he didn't do nothing to him until Rosenstrake caught him with that bomb.

Brendan Schaub 34:15 Rosenstrake was gonna lose that fight to Adalbert Bomb.

Joe Rogan 34:16 He was gonna lose that... He was gonna lose that fight. He was gonna lose that fight.

Brendan Schaub 34:20 D- did... I... This is-

Joe Rogan 34:21 Oh, it's in the prelims still. It's still on ESPN.

Brendan Schaub 34:24 It's, it's, it's co-main event now. I talked to his agent last night.

Joe Rogan 34:26 Oh, this is because the, uh, Rose Namajunas fight is pulled off.

Brendan Schaub 34:29 Do they still have Rose on there?

Narrator 34:31 No.

Joe Rogan 34:31 Okay, Uriah Hall-

Brendan Schaub 34:32 May- maybe they kept it there then.

Joe Rogan 34:33 ... and Jacare Souza. People were saying that it was Ryan Hall.

Brendan Schaub 34:38 Yeah, you guys texted me that and I, and I didn't text you back-

Joe Rogan 34:40 So, I s-

Brendan Schaub 34:40 ... because I thought you guys were joking.

Joe Rogan 34:41 Somebody's... No, somebody sent me a meme that said Ryan Hall versus Jacare Souza. And I was like, "Is that real?"

Brendan Schaub 34:47 And Eddie goes, "Can they even do that in their weight class?" And I thought you guys... I was like, "Uh, they're joking." So I didn't respond to it.

Joe Rogan 34:53 I didn't think it was a joke.

Brendan Schaub 34:53 But of course it's Ryan Hall.

Joe Rogan 34:54 I thought, you... N- look, Ryan Hall has such a hard time finding opponents.

Brendan Schaub 35:00 He got a fight though.

Joe Rogan 35:01 Did he?

Brendan Schaub 35:01 He got a fight.

Joe Rogan 35:02 Who?

Brendan Schaub 35:04 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 35:04 Put that, put that-

Brendan Schaub 35:04 St- Hey stud, he's fighting a stud.

Joe Rogan 35:07 Is he?

Brendan Schaub 35:07 Um, Ricar- Ricardo Lamas.

Joe Rogan 35:09 Oh, okay. That's a good fight for him. That's a good fight, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 35:11 That's a tough fucking fight. Nobody wants to fight Ryan Hall, man.

Joe Rogan 35:13 Exactly. Finally gets returned to us.

Brendan Schaub 35:15 Yes.

Joe Rogan 35:15 Ricardo Lamas in May. Yeah, he's, he's so difficult because Hall is so tall and long and-

Brendan Schaub 35:22 But also, how dare you guys think he was fighting Jacare?

Joe Rogan 35:24 Well, well, I didn't understand it. I thought maybe he just said, "Fuck it. I have no camp, but I want to fight. I weigh 185, I wanna do that."

Brendan Schaub 35:30 I'd watch the shit out of that.

Joe Rogan 35:32 Imagine. I mean, I don't think he's losing 40 pounds in between fights, but he's a tall guy. He's like six feet, isn't he?

Brendan Schaub 35:39 Yeah, he's-

Joe Rogan 35:39 Ryan Hall.

Brendan Schaub 35:39 Yeah, he's not, he's not... Yeah, he's thin.

Joe Rogan 35:40 He's not short for the division.

Brendan Schaub 35:42 He's thin.

Joe Rogan 35:42 Yeah, he's, he's thin, but I mean... Fuck. And he's also... He's a Firas Alhabib guy, right?

Brendan Schaub 35:47 Uh, Rahal?

Joe Rogan 35:49 Yeah. I'm p- I'm pretty sure he's training-

Brendan Schaub 35:50 He, he-

Joe Rogan 35:51 ... at, at Tristar.

Brendan Schaub 35:51 No, he trains down here now. He's at, out of Cali. He has his own gym in, uh, Orange County, and he trains at Kenny Florian's.

Joe Rogan 35:56 Did he ever train with Sahabi?

Brendan Schaub 35:58 Um-

Joe Rogan 35:58 Why do I feel like he was with Sahabi?

Brendan Schaub 36:00 Maybe he did early on, but he's been out of, uh, Cali.

Joe Rogan 36:04 Interesting. So-

Brendan Schaub 36:04 His own school and then Kenny's.

Joe Rogan 36:06 What is his, uh, what's his camp? Like, who's putting together the camp? Like, who's-

Brendan Schaub 36:10 I, I'm not... I don't know who his head guy is.

Joe Rogan 36:11 Alexander Hernandez comes back.

Brendan Schaub 36:13 That's a great fight.

Joe Rogan 36:14 I, I don't know.

Brendan Schaub 36:16 Dude, I, I don't, I don't think people r-

Joe Rogan 36:17 The rest are hard.

Brendan Schaub 36:17 ... realize the, the fucking-

Joe Rogan 36:20 Depth.

Brendan Schaub 36:20 Dude, Francis Ngannou versus Bostenstuck-

Joe Rogan 36:23 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 36:23 ... is insane, man.

Joe Rogan 36:24 That's gonna be amazing.

Brendan Schaub 36:25 And i- i- and if you, if you just-

Joe Rogan 36:27 Ooh, Marlon-

Brendan Schaub 36:27 People-

Joe Rogan 36:28 ... Viera and Ray Borg, that's a good fight, too.

Brendan Schaub 36:30 That's a ridiculous fight. People don't give Francis enough credit. You look at his record, you're like... Well, obviously he had his hiccup against Stipe and then-

Joe Rogan 36:36 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 36:37 ... the Derrick Lewis, I don't count. But besides Stipe, dude, the run and the dudes that he's beat?

Joe Rogan 36:42 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 36:42 If he were to g- become champion, y- you're talking top five of all time, man.

Joe Rogan 36:46 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 36:46 You look at his record, like, holy shit.

Joe Rogan 36:49 If he becomes champion, I mean, it- it-

Brendan Schaub 36:51 He knocked out Cain Velasquez.

Joe Rogan 36:52 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 36:52 Knocked out JDS.

Joe Rogan 36:53 Yep.

Brendan Schaub 36:53 Alistair Overeem.

Joe Rogan 36:54 Yep.

Brendan Schaub 36:55 Uh, Andrei Arlovski.

Joe Rogan 36:56 Yep.

Brendan Schaub 36:56 I mean, the whole... I mean, the who's who.

Joe Rogan 36:58 And the way he knocks 'em out, that's the thing. It's just the way he knocks 'em out. But he's getting old... I mean, he's, he's getting up there in age. He's like 37 now, I think?

Brendan Schaub 37:07 Dude, you know something to think about with Khabib-

Joe Rogan 37:10 How old is he?

Brendan Schaub 37:10 ... and Tony and these guys?

Joe Rogan 37:12 Does it say how old he is?

Narrator 37:13 Not here.

Brendan Schaub 37:13 He has to be 30-something. You know Tony's 36.

Joe Rogan 37:16 Is he?

Brendan Schaub 37:17 And for a lightwe- for a heavyweight, it doesn't matter. For a lightweight, that's a, that's a-

Joe Rogan 37:20 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 37:20 ... long in the tooth.

Joe Rogan 37:22 It's not gonna say it there. They're gonna... Th- th- they hide that information. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 37:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:27 But let me see the main card. What's, what's th- what's the main card look like now?

Brendan Schaub 37:30 The card's so filthy.

Narrator 37:32 I just took that one off of it.

Brendan Schaub 37:33 Jeremy Stephens, Calvin Kattar?

Narrator 37:35 Kattar are down here on the bottom.

Joe Rogan 37:36 What?

Narrator 37:37 Down on the bottom of the screen, if you can see that.

Joe Rogan 37:39 Oh, okay.

Narrator 37:39 I don't think we can actually-

Joe Rogan 37:39 Oh, th- that's th- the Jeremy Stephens, Calvin Kattar is a fantastic fight.

Brendan Schaub 37:43 (gasps) Dude, how about fucking, uh, your boy's on there? Niko Price.

Joe Rogan 37:47 So-

Brendan Schaub 37:48 Luque. (gasps)

Joe Rogan 37:48 ... it still says Greg Hardy is the co-main, but that's been changed, right?

Brendan Schaub 37:53 I- uh, that's... From what I understand-

Joe Rogan 37:54 Vicente Luque and Niko Price.

Brendan Schaub 37:55 Let me, let me text him right now. From what I understand, he's the co-main event.

Joe Rogan 37:58 J- Jeremy Stephens and Calvin Kattar, that's the sleeper of the night. I think Calvin Kattar is the dark horse of the 145-pound division. That motherfucker's scary. He's a beast. I mean, he, uh, he's had a... I think he's had two losses inside the octagon. I think, uh, um... (clicks tongue)

Brendan Schaub 38:16 God, that's a fucking fight.

Joe Rogan 38:18 Renato Moicano, uh, beat him with leg kicks. He, he, uh, b- made a real good adjustment and started catching him with leg kicks and won a decision. And then, he beat, uh, he beat a bunch of guys and lost as a beat. And he lost as a beat in a fight where he was, he was dominating-

Brendan Schaub 38:37 It was a good fight.

Joe Rogan 38:38 ... in that third round.

Brendan Schaub 38:38 Yeah, that, that was a tossup.

Joe Rogan 38:40 He was dominating that third round.

Brendan Schaub 38:41 Agree.

Joe Rogan 38:41 And I was like, "Man, if this is a five-round fight, I like Kattar."

Brendan Schaub 38:45 Me too. All day.

Joe Rogan 38:46 He fucked up Lamas. That was a fight where right away, you could see the, the difference in the hands. Calvin trains a lot with boxers. He's got vicious hands, like super accurate and really long. Like, if you see... If you go to his Instagram, he put up the KO of Lamas. It's very interesting because he ranges him. He ranges him, and then he drops these super long punches on him.

Brendan Schaub 39:10 He's a Boston kid, right?

Joe Rogan 39:11 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 39:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:12 The... But the... It's the l- Like, watch how he sets this up. Like, he moves his hands. One, two. See the range?

Brendan Schaub 39:18 Boom!

Joe Rogan 39:19 Boom! The length of that. And he's huge for a 45-or-2.

Brendan Schaub 39:23 And he's a big boy.

Joe Rogan 39:23 Really tall and long.

Brendan Schaub 39:25 Geez.

Joe Rogan 39:25 But the fucking torque in that right hand. He, he, he s- spins him around-

Brendan Schaub 39:30 God!

Joe Rogan 39:30 ... with the left and then puts the lights out with the right. Look at that guy. That guy is fucking picture perfect, man. Picture perfect. Oh, shit. Irish Mickey Ward says, "Good luck, Calvin."

Brendan Schaub 39:39 Wow.

Joe Rogan 39:39 How about seeing that looking down?

Brendan Schaub 39:41 Six g- Six Gun Gibson.

Joe Rogan 39:43 Six Gun Gibson.

Brendan Schaub 39:43 Yeah. Jesus Christ.

Joe Rogan 39:44 But that, that one-two was sensational.

Brendan Schaub 39:46 Dude, him for Stephens is a phenomenal fight.

Joe Rogan 39:48 Phenomenal fight, phenomenal fight.

Brendan Schaub 39:49 You look at all the fights, it's like, "Man, fight of the night? Good luck."

Joe Rogan 39:53 Mm-hmm. I know, right?

Brendan Schaub 39:53 Niko Price.

Joe Rogan 39:54 I know.

Brendan Schaub 39:54 Luque? (gasps)

Joe Rogan 39:55 I know. Vicente Luque is an animal and Niko Price is an animal. Both those guys together, that's a f-

Brendan Schaub 40:01 I c- I couldn't believe-

Joe Rogan 40:01 Go back to that. Go back to what you just sh- you had up there, Jimmy.

Narrator 40:04 Oh, yes, sir.

Joe Rogan 40:04 The, the, the whole full, full card.

Narrator 40:05 You got it, so it's doing it.

Brendan Schaub 40:07 I couldn't... There it is.

Joe Rogan 40:08 Hmm. It took fucking hell.

Brendan Schaub 40:09 I couldn't believe when the UFC announced this, some people hated on it. I'm like, "You fucking-"

Joe Rogan 40:13 That's-

Brendan Schaub 40:13 "... negative bitches."

Joe Rogan 40:14 ... just how it is.

Brendan Schaub 40:15 That's insane.

Joe Rogan 40:16 That's just how it is.

Brendan Schaub 40:16 We're in the corona times and Dana pulled this off?

Joe Rogan 40:19 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 40:19 This... If this was-

Joe Rogan 40:20 The corona times? (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 40:21 We're in the corona times? Dude, if this was a regular pay-per-view, it'd make my dick hard.

Joe Rogan 40:25 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 40:25 Let alone with corona. This is amazing. The Greg Hardy, De Castro... Listen, not a h- not a highly skilled fight. Somebody's going to fucking sleep, hopefully. But to be co-main event is a little crazy.

Joe Rogan 40:36 Well, I was interested that Greg Hardy stepped up and fought Volkov.

Brendan Schaub 40:41 And didn't look bad.

Joe Rogan 40:42 Didn't look bad. And-

Brendan Schaub 40:43 Didn't get annihilated.

Joe Rogan 40:44 Didn't get annihilated against one of the best heavyweights in the division.

Brendan Schaub 40:46 Correct. Stud.

Joe Rogan 40:47 I mean, Alexander is a really technical fighter.

Brendan Schaub 40:50 Oh, super stud.

Joe Rogan 40:50 And real long. Real tall and long. I mean, look at what he did to Fabricio Werdum. Fabricio Werdum was the UFC heavyweight champion. He fucked him up. And Greg Hardy went the distance with him and did not look bad.

Brendan Schaub 41:00 And had one hand.

Joe Rogan 41:01 Yeah, and he... Yeah, broke his hand early in the fight. He's going to get better. He's a stud athlete. The difference between, like, guys like... First of all, he doesn't have another way, right? He doesn't have a fucking football career anymore.

Brendan Schaub 41:14 No.

Joe Rogan 41:14 He's not gonna play pro baseball.

Brendan Schaub 41:15 This is it.

Joe Rogan 41:15 This is it.

Brendan Schaub 41:16 There's no podcasting.

Joe Rogan 41:17 Right.

Brendan Schaub 41:17 There's no- there's no- just, just-

Joe Rogan 41:18 There's nothing else.

Brendan Schaub 41:18 This is it.

Joe Rogan 41:19 And he's got a d- a dicey past in terms of the law and-

Brendan Schaub 41:22 Some would say the diciest.

Joe Rogan 41:23 It's pretty dicey.

Brendan Schaub 41:24 Then Jon Jones says, "Hold my beer." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:28 (laughs)

Narrator 41:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:28 It's hold, hold my tequila.

Brendan Schaub 41:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:32 (laughs) But, but Greg Hardy's a fucking elite athlete. He's a guy who knows how to be a professional athlete and-

Brendan Schaub 41:38 He was all pro, Joe.

Joe Rogan 41:39 Yeah, he's legit, man.

Brendan Schaub 41:41 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:41 Super stud athlete.

Brendan Schaub 41:42 Pro baller.

Joe Rogan 41:43 ... but there's a thing about guys like that, where from the time they're young, they realize this insane work ethic is how you make it. And they also ... They're, they're used to these regimented programs, right? Where a lot of football players, and you can speak on this, they're used to these programs where everybody's doing the same kind of work, versus boxers or, or MMA fighters.

Brendan Schaub 42:05 Yeah, you're on your own.

Joe Rogan 42:05 You're on your own, and sometimes-

Brendan Schaub 42:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:07 ... you half-ass it and sometimes you're not disciplined, you fuck off, you don't go to kickboxing. You decide, "I don't want to go to jujitsu today, I wanna fuck my girlfriend." That kind of shit doesn't happen in football.

Brendan Schaub 42:16 It doesn't work that way. E- especially at, like, University of Colorado or Ohio State. So, if you're one of 10 linebackers and you're all doing the exact same thing, you're all fighting for your job every day.

Joe Rogan 42:27 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 42:27 And if you, for whatever reason, don't do something well and this guy does, he's probably gonna play over you.

Joe Rogan 42:33 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 42:33 So you're like ... It's this heightened, fricking competition-

Joe Rogan 42:36 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 42:36 ... all the time, man. And it brings the best out of you.

Joe Rogan 42:39 It does. Eric Andrews was a football player too, right?

Brendan Schaub 42:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:43 Another beast.

Brendan Schaub 42:43 Alabama stud.

Joe Rogan 42:44 Go watch his fight with Khalil Roundtree.

Brendan Schaub 42:46 Oh, he looked amazing.

Joe Rogan 42:47 And the motherfucker doesn't flinch. Khalil Roundtree was lighting him up, lighting him up. He never flinched. Khalil Roundtree was fucking his legs up in a way, uh, very rarely you see. 'Cause-

Brendan Schaub 42:59 His leg was so fucked up.

Joe Rogan 43:00 And he ... Khalil was full Muay Thai light on the front legs. Whack, whack, whack, whoa.

Brendan Schaub 43:05 He looked phenomenal.

Joe Rogan 43:06 Dude, when Khalil's on his game, he, he displays some of the best Muay Thai you're gonna see in the UFC.

Brendan Schaub 43:12 That, that Eric Andrews just ... I know you don't watch football, Joe. So, he played at Alabama, and he was on the national champion team. So that, that's like crème de la crème.

Joe Rogan 43:19 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 43:19 Doesn't get better than that. That's like wrestling at Ohio State or Oklahoma.

Joe Rogan 43:22 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 43:22 Like, he was a high-level football player.

Joe Rogan 43:24 Bro, he's a stud. That guy is an animal.

Brendan Schaub 43:27 Yeah, I'm a fan.

Joe Rogan 43:27 In terms of, like, h- and his ability to endure pain and his ab- and his ability to press forward. And, you know, and fights a lot. Takes fights ... Take a fight at light heavyweight, take a fight at 185.

Brendan Schaub 43:38 He's game.

Joe Rogan 43:39 He's game as fuck. And again, that's the thing that's like, these elite athletes, these guys who know what it takes to be a winner. You know? A few ... The, those Greg Hardy guys, Eric Andrews guys, and we're gonna get more of those, there's gonna be more guys like that. Let's see a path. And there's, there's more guys like that, that don't want to rely on a team, you know? They don't want, like ... If the team they're on sucks, they don't shine, they, they, they'd rather kill what they eat.

Brendan Schaub 44:06 100%.

Joe Rogan 44:07 You know what I mean?

Brendan Schaub 44:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:08 There's a lot of guys like that, where they'd rather just go out and do it themselves, and MMA is a sport where they can do that.

Brendan Schaub 44:14 Yep.

Joe Rogan 44:14 So you see a lot of these guys, they start practicing MMA, you know, off season, they train a little bit off season. I wouldn't be surprised if Jon's brother, Arthur, gets into MMA.

Brendan Schaub 44:24 Both of them.

Joe Rogan 44:24 Oh, for sure.

Brendan Schaub 44:24 I mean, Chandler's a, uh, all pro too, pro baller. But both of them.

Joe Rogan 44:28 But Arthur, Arthur trains with him a lot, doesn't he?

Brendan Schaub 44:29 Yeah, a ton.

Joe Rogan 44:30 Yeah, he's huge.

Brendan Schaub 44:31 He's such a big boy.

Joe Rogan 44:33 He's huge.

Brendan Schaub 44:33 So big.

Joe Rogan 44:34 If ... And he can fight, man. If he decided to start fighting, take on a few pro fights.

Brendan Schaub 44:38 Oh, d- I mean, I think Jon said in interviews, but I remember when Jon and I were talking, he, uh ... I mean, Ar- Arthur gives him problems.

Joe Rogan 44:45 Oh, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 44:46 Like, if they wrestle, it's problems, man.

Joe Rogan 44:47 Bro, he's huge.

Brendan Schaub 44:48 And explosive.

Joe Rogan 44:49 He's ... And he's huge.

Brendan Schaub 44:50 And the nicest guy.

Joe Rogan 44:51 The nicest guy, but he's so big. He's so much bigger than Jon.

Brendan Schaub 44:53 The brothers don't have problems though, huh? The bro ... You don't really hear much about the brothers fucking up.

Joe Rogan 44:58 Well, they've both been popped for steroids.

Brendan Schaub 45:01 Yeah, I mean, that's sports though.

Joe Rogan 45:02 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 45:02 I'm talking about, like, hanging out at Albuquerque at 4:00 in the morning with bums-

Joe Rogan 45:07 Shooting guns.

Brendan Schaub 45:07 ... and fucking shooting guns out of the-

Joe Rogan 45:08 Yeah. Well, they don't ... Well, they do get hit in the head. They get hit in the head football style.

Brendan Schaub 45:12 Anytime.

Joe Rogan 45:12 Which, by the way, I, I, I got through the Wandery series on ... I still haven't watched the Netflix documentary on your boy that looks exactly like you, Aaron Hernandez.

Brendan Schaub 45:20 (laughs) That's why I grew my shit out.

Joe Rogan 45:22 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 45:23 We look so much like each other.

Joe Rogan 45:24 It's ... So much is hilarious. But God damn, dude, that Wandery, uh, podcast series, Warrior-

Brendan Schaub 45:30 It's so good.

Joe Rogan 45:30 Oh, it's so good. I was-

Brendan Schaub 45:33 It's-

Joe Rogan 45:33 ... gripped. It was one of those ... You know, sometimes you get a podcast series like that, like another one is, um, uh, The Dropout about that, uh, Elizabeth Holmes chick that robbed everybody with that Th- Th- Theranos Company?

Brendan Schaub 45:44 Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:46 Yeah, yeah. That's another one that's like-

Brendan Schaub 45:46 Is it good?

Joe Rogan 45:47 Holy shit, is it good.

Brendan Schaub 45:48 I need a good one.

Joe Rogan 45:49 There's a few of those where you start and you're like, "What the fuck?"

Brendan Schaub 45:52 Dude, sometimes I'll sit in my car and wait till the episode's done.

Joe Rogan 45:55 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 45:55 It's ... I'm, like, so into it.

Joe Rogan 45:57 I'm on something right now that I know you're, you're, you've read, that Chaos book.

Brendan Schaub 46:01 The Charles Manson book?

Joe Rogan 46:02 Yes.

Brendan Schaub 46:02 Dude.

Joe Rogan 46:03 Bro, he's coming in.

Brendan Schaub 46:04 Who-

Joe Rogan 46:04 Tom O'Neill's coming in next week.

Brendan Schaub 46:06 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 46:06 Yes. I'm in the middle of that book right now.

Brendan Schaub 46:08 It's so good.

Joe Rogan 46:10 Holy ... Holy shit. Holy shit.

Brendan Schaub 46:13 Nuts. You look at Manson a little different.

Joe Rogan 46:14 You look at the whole thing a little different.

Brendan Schaub 46:15 Yes.

Joe Rogan 46:16 You're like, "What?" Yeah, I don't wanna say too much 'cause I, I want Tom to explain everything.

Brendan Schaub 46:20 When are you having him on?

Joe Rogan 46:21 Next week.

Brendan Schaub 46:21 That book's so fucking good.

Joe Rogan 46:23 Dude, I'm balls deep in that book right now.

Brendan Schaub 46:24 I've been ranting and raving about that book for ...

Joe Rogan 46:26 Grip. Well, what ... Well, the things that are absolutely provable that he knows, Charles Manson, the CIA, and the secret history of the '60s, the, the things that are absolutely 100% provable, just those things are mind blowers, where you're like, "Whoa."

Brendan Schaub 46:43 And, but, and it's documented too.

Joe Rogan 46:45 Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

Brendan Schaub 46:45 How the CIA-

Joe Rogan 46:46 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 46:46 ... and the LSD house in, in, uh, Haight-Ashbury in San Francisco-

Joe Rogan 46:50 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 46:51 ... and how he was doing wild shit and the CIA would let him go.

Joe Rogan 46:53 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 46:53 Or how he was out here at that ranch-

Joe Rogan 46:55 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 46:56 ... and the cops never ... They... People would go, "Dude, he's doing wild shit. Arrest him." They're like, "We're told not to touch him." You're like, "What?"

Joe Rogan 47:02 Yeah. Dude, they-

Brendan Schaub 47:03 What the fuck?

Joe Rogan 47:04 They killed a caretaker at that ranch. They didn't find that guy's body until the s- the late '70s. Yeah, they, they did a lot of shit-

Brendan Schaub 47:10 It's one of my favorite books.

Joe Rogan 47:11 Y- It's a very good book. Uh, they did a lot of shit in the 1970s with drugs and people for experiments.

Brendan Schaub 47:19 Yes.

Joe Rogan 47:19 In the '60s and the '70s, and that's how they created the Unabomber, man. T- Ted Kaczynski was a part of the Harvard LSD program.

Brendan Schaub 47:27 Yeah, I wa- ... Did you watch that documentary?

Joe Rogan 47:28 The Net?

Brendan Schaub 47:29 Uh-

Joe Rogan 47:29 Is that the one you saw on?

Brendan Schaub 47:30 Um, it's on, uh, Netflix.

Joe Rogan 47:32 Which one is it?

Brendan Schaub 47:32 I forget, but it, it's about the Unabomber. And I, I didn't know that, I'm like, "Why is he such a ... Why was he so fucked up?"

Joe Rogan 47:37 Oh, is it Manhunter?

Brendan Schaub 47:38 I think so. Yes.

Joe Rogan 47:39 Yeah, I haven't watched that one.

Brendan Schaub 47:39 It's so good.

Narrator 47:41 No, there's another one.

Joe Rogan 47:42 There's another one?

Narrator 47:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:42 What's the other one called?

Brendan Schaub 47:43 Oh, that's what I'm-

Joe Rogan 47:44 Unabomber in His Own Words.

Brendan Schaub 47:45 So it's the first time ... They, they ... He only let one person ever interview him.

Joe Rogan 47:48 Oh, shit.

Brendan Schaub 47:48 And it's all the, the tapes from the interview.

Joe Rogan 47:52 Oh, shit.

Brendan Schaub 47:52 And, um, you know, his legal- his, his defense team goes, "Listen, dude, you're not going to get the death penalty if you just plead insanity." He goes, "Fu- I'm, I'm not insane." He goes, "Do I seem insane to you?" He goes, he goes, "I'm not insane." And so he fired his defense team because they wanted to say he was insane. He goes, "I'd rather die than be called insane." He's like, "I'm not insane. I'm a genius."

Joe Rogan 48:11 Whoa.

Brendan Schaub 48:11 (laughs)

Narrator 48:11 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 48:12 It's like, goddamn, dude. He was smart as fuck.

Joe Rogan 48:15 Well, he might be too smart because he's actually... Look, he's not correct to kill those people.

Brendan Schaub 48:20 No.

Joe Rogan 48:20 But he is correct that technology is eventually going to overcome people. Now imagine, and this is, this is, we're going deep down the Eddie Bravo rabbit hole.

Brendan Schaub 48:30 I love it.

Joe Rogan 48:31 Imagine if you were artificial intelligence and you had decided you wanted to assimilate with people, but you had to convince people. One of the best ways to convince people is to get them addicted to technology (snaps fingers) . Check, done, right? Everybody's addicted-

Brendan Schaub 48:47 Cellphone.

Joe Rogan 48:47 ... to technology. Then get them connected through social media apps, get them connected to technology. I mean, how many times you go to a restaurant, well, you don't, not right now, not at all, but any, anytime you go out in public before the quarantine, everybody was on their phone.

Brendan Schaub 49:00 Everybody.

Joe Rogan 49:00 Check. Now you throw a virus in there. So now they can't be with people. And then you make it so when they see people, they can't touch them. They can't hug people. They can't shake hands. They have to make distance. So now the only way you can connect with people is through Zoom or FaceTime or-

Brendan Schaub 49:17 Technology.

Joe Rogan 49:18 ... all the technology.

Brendan Schaub 49:18 And then, and then while we're all quarantined, you're installing 5G towers.

Joe Rogan 49:22 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Brendan Schaub 49:26 Did you see that? Uh, did you post that? Where it goes-

Joe Rogan 49:27 Yes.

Brendan Schaub 49:28 With that little Duvall?

Joe Rogan 49:29 Little Duvall, yeah.

Brendan Schaub 49:30 He goes, "Tell me, tell..." (laughs) He goes, "You tell motherfuckers."

Joe Rogan 49:32 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 49:32 He goes, "You need the 5G towers and-

Joe Rogan 49:35 Five countries have 5G towers.

Brendan Schaub 49:37 The rest more or less-

Joe Rogan 49:37 More than 100 countries have coronavirus-

Brendan Schaub 49:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:39 ... you fucking idiots. Not 5G.

Brendan Schaub 49:40 Legit point. Legit point.

Joe Rogan 49:41 It's the best point.

Brendan Schaub 49:43 The best point.

Joe Rogan 49:43 It's one of those points where you hear, you go, "Oh, yeah." "I saw Tyrese posted." He was like, "Y'all need to look at this 5G. That's what's causing all this and killing kids and coronavirus." I was like, "Oh, oh, buddy."

Brendan Schaub 49:53 Oh, he's so dumb. "Oh, buddy."

Joe Rogan 49:53 There's so many people-

Brendan Schaub 49:54 "Just make Fast and Furious 19. Shut the fuck up." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:57 They probably don't want him on it anymore.

Brendan Schaub 49:58 Yeah, they probably don't.

Joe Rogan 49:58 There's so many fucking people that think that 5G is what's killing people. But it's like there's always gonna be that thing where whenever something happens, people look for some nefarious backwoods sort of fucking answer.

Brendan Schaub 50:11 I also, I also think, uh, you know, in th- in this time, it's very easy to get down and depressed. And a lot of people thrive in that.

Joe Rogan 50:16 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 50:17 So they want it to be bad. It's like, "God, get out of here, man."

Joe Rogan 50:20 Dude, you're right.

Brendan Schaub 50:21 Get out of here.

Joe Rogan 50:22 You're right. You're right. There are people that are, like, they're happy the world is falling apart.

Brendan Schaub 50:26 They're thriving.

Joe Rogan 50:26 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 50:27 Thriving.

Joe Rogan 50:28 I saw some lady write some post about Justin Bieber. She was making fun of Justin Bieber's house, which, by the way, looks pretty pimp. They were like, "It's like-"

Brendan Schaub 50:37 It looks fucking dope.

Joe Rogan 50:38 Yeah, I know. They're like, "It's so disgusting."

Brendan Schaub 50:40 It looks like SimCity-

Joe Rogan 50:41 It's like a ugly house.

Brendan Schaub 50:41 Uh, it looks like a stupid SimCity house. Like...

Joe Rogan 50:43 But then she wrote, "Eat the rich." I'm like, "What?"

Brendan Schaub 50:48 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 50:48 Like, he's a singer. He's a-

Brendan Schaub 50:49 Meanwhile she looks, meanwhile she looks like an armadillo.

Joe Rogan 50:52 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 50:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:53 I'm sure.

Brendan Schaub 50:53 Let's eat you, bitch. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:55 (laughs) Take your shell off. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 50:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:57 Throw it, uh, uh, armadillo on the barbie.

Brendan Schaub 51:00 Take, take the shell off.

Joe Rogan 51:01 People are so crazy though. Like, because they're angry and they're frustrated. Like, it's like, uh, is it his fault that he's a super successful musician that has a crazy dope house?

Brendan Schaub 51:09 And super talented?

Joe Rogan 51:11 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 51:11 And also, that house? Let me look at your house, bitch.

Joe Rogan 51:14 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 51:14 Let me look at the armadillo house.

Joe Rogan 51:15 She shouldn't have a house. That's why she's angry. That's why she's like, "Oh, eat the rich."

Brendan Schaub 51:18 Yes.

Joe Rogan 51:18 She doesn't have a house.

Brendan Schaub 51:19 I saw one guy post this thing me and Cal talked about three years. "Hey, I've, I've heard horrible stories about Ellen. For every bad story you guys share, I'll donate $2 to this," you know, Corona-

Joe Rogan 51:28 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 51:28 I'm like, "Dude, what's wrong with you, man? Do something positive. You think this is positive-

Joe Rogan 51:33 Well-

Brendan Schaub 51:33 ... hating on fucking Ellen?"

Joe Rogan 51:34 People are cooped up, and they're filled with anger, and they find a target for that anger. They're filled with anxiety and depression and rage and... You know, I don't-

Brendan Schaub 51:44 So do something to get- be creative, man. Do something to get out of it.

Joe Rogan 51:47 Yeah. Good call. Yeah, but-

Brendan Schaub 51:50 Don't hate on the people who are doing it.

Joe Rogan 51:52 I think, uh-

Brendan Schaub 51:52 That's why you're in that position.

Joe Rogan 51:53 Did you see what Ellen did? This is really, really kind of funny. She said, uh, "Being stuck here in quarantine is like being in prison. I haven't changed my clothes in, in days and everyone's gay." (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 52:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:05 It's funny.

Brendan Schaub 52:05 It's funny.

Joe Rogan 52:06 It's funny. Um, and she got attacked. "Do you think this is prison? My grandmother died."

Brendan Schaub 52:11 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 52:11 "You're living in a mansion."

Brendan Schaub 52:13 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 52:13 That kind of shit. But I think it's probably partly because that guy came out and said, "Hey, Ellen's mean. Post your stories about Ellen being mean."

Brendan Schaub 52:21 Did you see the stories?

Joe Rogan 52:22 They're bad stories.

Brendan Schaub 52:22 They were so... No- nothing, nothing too bad, man.

Joe Rogan 52:26 What was it? She been-

Brendan Schaub 52:27 It was like, "Oh, the, uh, I came on her show, and before I left, she didn't say hi." It's like, okay.

Joe Rogan 52:32 "Ellen takes down video after jail joke about coronavirus self-quarantine."

Brendan Schaub 52:36 Oh, Ellen.

Joe Rogan 52:36 And lands in pr... Wow, she's, she's shook. She's shook right now.

Brendan Schaub 52:40 Go to your roots.

Joe Rogan 52:41 Because-

Brendan Schaub 52:41 You're a comic. Stand by it, man.

Joe Rogan 52:42 Well, there's a several other articles written about her being an asshole-

Brendan Schaub 52:45 Oh, being mean?

Joe Rogan 52:46 ... after that. Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 52:46 Because people capitalize on that.

Joe Rogan 52:47 Listen-

Brendan Schaub 52:47 I've heard about it. I've heard of it, you know, in entertainments all around.

Joe Rogan 52:51 But it's like, don't you also think that she's one of those tooth and claw get to the top? That's why she became Ellen-

Brendan Schaub 52:58 Correct.

Joe Rogan 52:58 ... in the first place, and that makes a lot of enemies.

Brendan Schaub 53:01 She's A-type.

Joe Rogan 53:02 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 53:02 She's an A-type personality. It's her show. It's her way or the highway, and it rubs a lot of people wrong.

Joe Rogan 53:06 And also probably maligned most of her life because she was a lesbian, had to keep it in tight.

Brendan Schaub 53:12 There's some darkness in there.

Joe Rogan 53:13 Yeah, there's some darkness in there, some anger in there, you know. I don't know. But the fucking joke's hilarious.

Brendan Schaub 53:19 Hilarious joke.

Joe Rogan 53:20 That's a great joke.

Brendan Schaub 53:21 Hilarious joke.

Joe Rogan 53:22 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 53:23 Great joke. I like Ellen.

Joe Rogan 53:24 "I'm wearing the same clothes and everyone's gay." That's funny.

Brendan Schaub 53:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:28 That's funny. (laughs) People are like, "Fuck you! Fuck you, eat the rich!"

Brendan Schaub 53:34 Real funny. God.

Joe Rogan 53:34 Eat the rich. It's so...

Brendan Schaub 53:36 My favorite, hate on Justin Bieber. Have you seen that fucking crib? You know what that looks like inside, you fucking morons?

Joe Rogan 53:41 You know how dope that crib is?

Brendan Schaub 53:42 It looks pretty cool. Yeah, but the thing is, like, it's saying it's the ugliest house ever is so crazy. It's weird looking, yeah, but when you're Justin Bieber, look at that-

Joe Rogan 53:54 Bro, that looks like a, some sort of ... Do you know what that looks like? It l- it looks like a museum. Like, you would go there and there'd be, like, a dinosaur in there and some fucking-

Brendan Schaub 54:01 Yeah, it looks like you can ... It looks like the opening to Jurassic Park.

Joe Rogan 54:03 Yeah, something about space.

Brendan Schaub 54:03 Yeah, it looks like one of those ... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:05 That's a dope house.

Brendan Schaub 54:06 I bet th- It's all glass, you just walk around butt-naked with his girl and shit.

Joe Rogan 54:10 (laughs) It looks like a giant salad spinner. Now you can lease it.

Brendan Schaub 54:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:13 Well, no one's gonna wanna lease it now. Social media users mock this Beverly Hills house, but tweeters got a few things wrong. First of all, you, you, you're s- let me see your house, you mocking this house.

Brendan Schaub 54:25 Yeah, po- post your house, dude.

Joe Rogan 54:25 Post your house, bitch. Post your shitty little apartment in Studio City that you're mocking this castle from, this fucking Tony Stark castle.

Brendan Schaub 54:33 60 grand a month.

Joe Rogan 54:34 Ooh, that's it? (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 54:37 Dude, that thing is fucking sick.

Joe Rogan 54:40 That h- (laughs) That house is sick. Look at the inside.

Brendan Schaub 54:42 That thing is so sick.

Joe Rogan 54:42 Look at the inside. That's it. That house is dope as fuck.

Brendan Schaub 54:44 It makes me like him more.

Joe Rogan 54:45 Yeah. You know, when I heard Justin Bieber songs, I thought it was sung by a girl.

Narrator 54:49 Really?

Joe Rogan 54:49 At first, you did?

Brendan Schaub 54:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:50 I had no idea. I thought it was a girl song.

Brendan Schaub 54:52 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 54:52 Then someone's like, "That's Justin Bieber." I'm like, "What?"

Brendan Schaub 54:54 Like the Yummy song? It's like, all right, dude.

Joe Rogan 54:57 Why are you laughing? I didn't know.

Brendan Schaub 54:59 (laughs) "I didn't know."

Joe Rogan 55:00 Bro, I listen to 98% classic rock, okay?

Brendan Schaub 55:03 (laughs) Yeah, that's ...

Joe Rogan 55:05 I'm that old, dude.

Brendan Schaub 55:05 But your, but your kids are listening to Justin Bieber.

Joe Rogan 55:08 Um, I don't know if they do.

Brendan Schaub 55:09 No?

Joe Rogan 55:10 Not around me, bro.

Brendan Schaub 55:10 Oh.

Joe Rogan 55:10 I shut that shit off. I throw it in the tub.

Brendan Schaub 55:12 "Get this shit out of here. Here's some Lynyrd Skynyrd." What?

Joe Rogan 55:15 (laughs) Yeah, if they work out at the gym, I, I make them listen to fucking Skynyrd and Zeppelin.

Brendan Schaub 55:21 But I'm sure they have the stuff they like.

Joe Rogan 55:23 Yes.

Brendan Schaub 55:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:24 Oh, my God, it's terrible. Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 55:27 I don't even know what kids listen to.

Joe Rogan 55:28 They sing a lot of Lizzo. My kids sing a lot of Lizzo.

Brendan Schaub 55:29 Lizzo?

Joe Rogan 55:29 Yeah. Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 55:31 I wonder if Lizzo's scared of corona.

Joe Rogan 55:34 She should be.

Brendan Schaub 55:35 (laughs) That's all I'm saying, man. She's not in shape.

Joe Rogan 55:38 Yeah, she should be. She should be. Well, a lot of people should be scared, you know?

Brendan Schaub 55:41 My dad hasn't left his house, but he's also, like, 63. So I'm like, "I get it, Papa."

Joe Rogan 55:45 Yeah, my parents got real spooked.

Brendan Schaub 55:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:47 My, my parents got real spooked. They don't, they don't do shit. They're holed up. I think that when the remedy comes out, hopefully when they figure out what it is, we're all gonna relax. But when Fauci was saying that we're not sh- shaking hands anymore ever, no shaking hands again ever, like, (sucks teeth) come on, bro.

Brendan Schaub 56:06 You're a pussy. I can't.

Joe Rogan 56:07 Come on, man.

Brendan Schaub 56:08 Dude, come on. That's, uh, that's why I kinda like that the UFC is doing their thing. And also, it's like, this is ... The, the UFC, the, the, Dana White and Fertitta is like, they're cowboys, man. They take risk.

Joe Rogan 56:20 They're cage-fighting promoters. There's no safety in that. Do you think that when Francis Ngannou fought Alistair Overeem and knocked him into another dimension-

Brendan Schaub 56:29 Ah, man.

Joe Rogan 56:29 ... do you think there's any safety in that?

Brendan Schaub 56:31 No.

Joe Rogan 56:31 Where's the safety?

Brendan Schaub 56:32 But Cor- Al- Alistair would rather have corona than eat that uppercut, you know what I'm saying? It's like-

Joe Rogan 56:36 100%.

Brendan Schaub 56:38 Also, you, the, the, I mean, Tony's probably the oldest guy in the card, card at 36.

Joe Rogan 56:42 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 56:42 Look at the odd of, if Tony w- let's say worst scenario, all the fighters got corona, look at the odds. They're all gonna be just fine, especially in the shape that they're in. Odds are they're gonna be fine. Now-

Joe Rogan 56:52 If Tony Ferguson gets corona, you'll see him the next day running hills.

Brendan Schaub 56:55 Yes.

Joe Rogan 56:56 With a mask on so he doesn't give it to other people.

Brendan Schaub 56:58 Correct. Correct.

Joe Rogan 56:58 He doesn't give a fuck.

Brendan Schaub 56:59 Now, as long as those fighters don't go back home and their, and their grandparents are around, that's where it gets dicey.

Joe Rogan 57:03 Yes, that's where it gets dicey.

Brendan Schaub 57:04 But I'm assuming they're not fucking idiots.

Joe Rogan 57:06 Yeah, that's where it gets dicey. I just wish there was a way to tell if you had it, because so many people are asymptomatic, you know, there's a lot of people that didn't feel any symptoms at all and then they found out that they had it and, like, whoa. You know? I wish there was a better way to know if you had it.

Brendan Schaub 57:22 But, but even if, if there's not, again, you look at the odds, the chances are ... And this is why Dana and the guys are going on with the fight. It's like, everyone should be fine.

Joe Rogan 57:29 Yes. "COVID-19 tests expected for fighters, coaches prior to UFC 249." So they're gonna test them, and I think what they're doing at the event is gonna, they're gonna temperature test everybody.

Brendan Schaub 57:41 Temperature testing, again, to play devil's advocate, it's a little tough because again, p- some people have and don't show symptoms for two days.

Joe Rogan 57:48 Yes, exactly.

Brendan Schaub 57:48 Or show symptoms at all.

Joe Rogan 57:49 "Expect to send test kits to fighters and their teams ahead of the event, which is currently rumored to take place at Tai Chi ... Tachi?"

Brendan Schaub 57:56 Tachipals.

Joe Rogan 57:56 "Tachipals Casino in Lemoore, California. A second round of testing is also expected to take place on site at 249. Testing is one of the strongest measures the promotion can take to ensure that those who attend the event are negative for the coronavirus, which has an incubation period of up to 14 days. It doesn't completely eliminate the possibility of spreading the virus. According to CDC, it's possible a person in early stages of infection could test negative on the test recognized by the Public Health Institute." Oh, great.

Brendan Schaub 58:22 Uh, I got an update on Francis, so-

Joe Rogan 58:23 Oh, yeah?

Brendan Schaub 58:24 Uh, they're, they're still finalizing the lineup, but they believe Francis will be co-main event.

Joe Rogan 58:28 Oh, it has to be.

Brendan Schaub 58:29 Why would you ... It has to be.

Joe Rogan 58:30 Why would you not? Why would you not?

Brendan Schaub 58:31 I mean, that's ... Uh-

Joe Rogan 58:32 But who do they have in the main event on ESPN, the, that's the, that's the fucking sweetener. That's the little taste of meth that gets you to buy the pay-per-view. (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 58:39 I know, who would you ...

Joe Rogan 58:41 Let me see the card again. Well, how about Stevens and Kattar? When is that? Is it on the main card?

Brendan Schaub 58:45 It's main card.

Joe Rogan 58:45 It should be on the main card. That's my fight.

Brendan Schaub 58:47 Luque Ni- Niko Price, that's my fight.

Joe Rogan 58:49 That's a great fight, too.

Brendan Schaub 58:50 The whole fucking card, dude.

Joe Rogan 58:52 Yeah, I, I just feel like-

Brendan Schaub 58:53 I wish it was free, though.

Joe Rogan 58:55 Hmm, no, they'd have to make that ... They've got to make that cheddar. William- WME, you know, like, you gotta think, all their touring acts, (snaps fingers) musicians, (snaps fingers) me, okay, I'm WME.

Brendan Schaub 59:06 Big deal for them.

Joe Rogan 59:07 All, all their, all their touring acts, (snaps fingers) everything has been canceled. Oh, 4/20 has been moved to October. 4/20 in Vancouver has moved to October 24th, October 24th.

Brendan Schaub 59:18 People are gonna get ... People are gonna be getting high October 24th.

Joe Rogan 59:19 We're gonna get high as fuck in Vancouver, hopefully. Hopefully COVID Two doesn't come out. So that's, uh, that's the main card. And go to the, uh, the, the prelims and see who's gonna be the ... If it's not-

Brendan Schaub 59:31 Jacare and Uriah Hall.

Joe Rogan 59:32 Oh, Jacare. That's it right there. Just move that one up. And then the bottom is Marlon Vera and Ray Borg. Now, go to, um, fight pass prelims. So what they'll do is they'll move up Michael Johnson and, uh, Kamaru Worthy. They'll do, do that. That's a great fight, too, by the way.

Brendan Schaub 59:47 Those games are g- Yeah, those are great, too.

Joe Rogan 59:48 They'll move that to ESPN.

Brendan Schaub 59:49 Do you know?

Joe Rogan 59:50 I heard, I heard the fighters are gonna be fine, but I heard the commentators are gonna be in super danger of getting corona. So you shouldn't do it- (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 59:55 ... and we should do a fight companion. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:59 ... where I-

Brendan Schaub 59:59 I selfishly don't want you to do it at all so we can do a great fight companion.

Joe Rogan 1:00:02 I, I selfishly don't wanna do it too but I also, uh, I'm very curious about what it's like to see a fight in an arena with no one there.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:07 Have you ever been to The Ultimate Fighter? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:09 No.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:09 I mean, granted it was in an arena but-

Joe Rogan 1:00:11 No.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:11 ... it's just, it, it just feels, it just feels different.

Joe Rogan 1:00:15 Yeah. Oh, sure.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:15 You, you can literally hear the ... Like, like, "Oh, God."

Joe Rogan 1:00:19 I know. It's gonna feel ... It's gonna sound really weird 'cause I scream a lot too. I'm like, "Oh." I'm gonna be like-

Brendan Schaub 1:00:23 Everyone's gonna hit.

Joe Rogan 1:00:24 Yeah. It's gonna be very strange. And they're gonna hear what I think should be done. They're gonna hear, like if-

Brendan Schaub 1:00:29 That might help.

Joe Rogan 1:00:30 Yeah. For DC, if DC's gonna be there with me, if someone's wrestling-

Brendan Schaub 1:00:33 So you think you're gonna do it?

Joe Rogan 1:00:34 I don't know. I'm thinking a lot about it.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:35 You still don't know?

Joe Rogan 1:00:36 I don't know.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:36 Dude, it's next Saturday.

Joe Rogan 1:00:37 I have to decide. Well, listen. I said that I would do it if it was gonna be in America. I talked to Dana. I said, "Look, man, you got ... You do it in America, I'm gonna do it." But it's not really in America. It's on an Indian reservation, which means it's not sanctioned by any Ath- Athletic Commission.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:49 So does it not count?

Narrator 1:00:50 No, it's a contained event.

Joe Rogan 1:00:51 It counts. What's that? Will be a sanctioned event?

Narrator 1:00:55 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 1:00:56 How?

Narrator 1:00:57 It says that, uh, all of their international events, they work together with the, uh, Nevada Commission to sanction them and th- the ABC, which is the Association of Boxing Commissions-

Brendan Schaub 1:01:05 Ooh.

Narrator 1:01:05 ... and Combat of Sports says this will be a sanctioned event.

Brendan Schaub 1:01:08 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 1:01:08 Oh.

Brendan Schaub 1:01:08 They pulled out all the stops.

Joe Rogan 1:01:10 Oh. How about how-

Narrator 1:01:11 They will now have, uh, imposed sanctions on them.

Joe Rogan 1:01:13 That's interesting. So how do they skirt the California rules for combat sports then?

Brendan Schaub 1:01:19 'Cause it's not ... They're technically not on-

Joe Rogan 1:01:22 They're not in California.

Brendan Schaub 1:01:23 ... an inju- jurisdiction, right?

Joe Rogan 1:01:24 Right. So they're using the ... Go back. Scroll back up again, please. Scroll back to the beginning of the article.

Brendan Schaub 1:01:30 Th- here's something to think about. If any other-

Joe Rogan 1:01:32 Association of Boxing Commission and Combat of Sports. So the ABC, which is the Association of Boxing and Combat of Sports, released a statement saying that, uh, it's taking place on tribal land. Dude, how great is tribal land?

Brendan Schaub 1:01:46 They can do anything.

Joe Rogan 1:01:47 They can do whatever they want.

Brendan Schaub 1:01:48 It's fantastic.

Joe Rogan 1:01:49 I mean-

Brendan Schaub 1:01:49 Just during these times.

Joe Rogan 1:01:50 They had a, a, a rough reason for why, you know-

Brendan Schaub 1:01:54 The roughest.

Joe Rogan 1:01:54 I mean, they used to own the whole country.

Brendan Schaub 1:01:56 They did.

Joe Rogan 1:01:57 "When the UFC does international events, they regulate themselves using Nevada State Athletic Commission inspectors. And this event, on sovereign land, is no different."

Brendan Schaub 1:02:05 Fantastic.

Joe Rogan 1:02:06 Sovereign land.

Brendan Schaub 1:02:06 Sovereign land.

Joe Rogan 1:02:07 We have little countries inside our country.

Brendan Schaub 1:02:08 This is fantastic. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:11 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 1:02:11 Here- here's what's interesting is, uh, any other ... Like, if Bellator, World Ser- PFL, if they were like, "Fuck California Commission, we're gonna do it on Native American land in California," they would never be allowed to work here again. That c- uh, that Athletic Commission would be like, "Dude, you fucked us over."

Joe Rogan 1:02:28 That's true.

Brendan Schaub 1:02:28 "We're not doing it." But the UFC's such a juggernaut, I don't think California's gonna flex on them. And the, and ... UFC has a close relationship with California.

Joe Rogan 1:02:36 Well, California Athletic Commission is run by Andy Foster. I'm a big fan of that dude.

Brendan Schaub 1:02:39 I like Andy.

Joe Rogan 1:02:39 He's the best. He-

Brendan Schaub 1:02:41 With the whole Jon Jones stuff?

Joe Rogan 1:02:42 Yeah.

Brendan Schaub 1:02:42 Remember all that?

Joe Rogan 1:02:42 Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub 1:02:43 So he has a pretty tight relationship with the UFC and Dana White, so I don't think it's gonna be an issue for them.

Joe Rogan 1:02:48 Well, I don't think so either if it's being sanctioned.

Brendan Schaub 1:02:52 Not by the California Athletic Commission, though.

Joe Rogan 1:02:54 Yeah, but-

Brendan Schaub 1:02:54 ABC Commission.

Joe Rogan 1:02:57 (laughs)

Brendan Schaub 1:02:57 Good enough. Uh, here's, here's what else is kind of interesting about this is, it's great Dana's putting it on. He made it happen. But you realize that one of the reasons they're making it happen is there's a little bit