JRE MMA Show #94 with Brendan Schaub

1. 0:00 – 1:02

   Quarantine check-in and firsthand COVID stories

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      Quarantine, baby. How you holding up? (smacks lips)

   2. BSBrendan Schaub0:04

      Getting through, man.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:05

      Are you weirded or just accepting it?

   4. BSBrendan Schaub0:07

      I'm accepting it, and I'm, I'm trying to stay positive. I send you guys all the positive stats I get. (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      (laughs) Well, I know several people that have gotten it and gotten over it. The worst was Michael Yeo. And I need to confirm this with Michael, but I'm pretty sure Michael had a cold, and then caught the corona, and then got pneumonia. And-

   6. BSBrendan Schaub0:25

      Jesus Christ.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:25

      And he got it real bad.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub0:27

      Yeah, he's bad.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:27

      He, he got it real bad. He was hospitalized for a week.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub0:30

       Yeah, his posts choke me up. Did you see his Instagram posts?

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       Yes, yes. And you see him coughing while he's doing it.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub0:35

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       He's such a good guy.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub0:37

       He's the nicest guy.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       He's the nicest guy. If we lost him, that'd be fucking-

   16. BSBrendan Schaub0:41

       It'd be a shame.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       ... devastating. Um, I know people that have gotten it, gotten over it, not, not m- much of a problem. You know? And they, they just felt like shit for a couple days, and then they were fine.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub0:52

       But that's the majority of people, Joe.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       Majority of people.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub0:54

       I know people get upset when I say that-

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       And it's true, though.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub0:56

       ... it's true, though. Those are the numbers.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       Yeah, there's-

   24. BSBrendan Schaub0:57

       Majority of the people get it and they're fine.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       Yeah. What I'm hoping is-

   26. BSBrendan Schaub1:02

       (clears throat)

2. 1:02 – 2:25

   Hope for early treatments: hydroxychloroquine, Z-Pak, and what counts as proof

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:02

      ... they come up with, with a legitimate treatment where it's like, "This is confirmed that if you take hydroxychloroquine," you know, with Z-Pak.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub1:10

      And the Z-Pak.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:10

      If they say something like that, this is confirmed, if they say, "W- we got it covered folks, we no longer have to worry about people dying of coronavirus."

   4. BSBrendan Schaub1:18

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:18

      "We just catch it real early," sorta like Tamiflu-

   6. BSBrendan Schaub1:21

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:21

      ... or some other things that... Look, staph used to fucking kill the shit out of people.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub1:25

      Oh, tons.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:25

      You know? Killed a lot of people. Infections killed a lot of fucking people. Now, they give you antibiotics. I mean, imagine if jujitsu killed people. Imagine if you went to the gym and you got staph and you died. How many fucking people would train? I wouldn't train. Nobody would train.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub1:39

       Hell, no.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:39

       You'd be so terrified of staph, right? Well, that's how we are right now with this coronavirus. We're worried because we don't have, like, a rock solid legitimate treatment or a vaccine.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub1:49

       But that hydrochlorothiane, whatever the hell it is, it's Z-Pak-

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:52

       Chloroquine.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub1:52

       ... supposed to, supposed to work. The trials that they've seen, right?

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:55

       Yeah. Well-

   16. BSBrendan Schaub1:55

       For some people.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:57

       D- (sighs) You know that it's what they call anecdotal evidence. It's not 100% proven clinical trial, peer-reviewed where they can say, "Hey, we, we had a 160 people that were coronavirus positive. We put them on this hydroxychloroquine, 100%."

   18. BSBrendan Schaub2:09

       It takes a lot of time.

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:10

       It takes a lot of time.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub2:10

       We don't have time.

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:11

       Right. But the guy... There's a few doctors in New York that have implemented it and some, uh, some very positive results according to them. Now, is that, is that enough to, you know, to say, "Hey, we're good"? I don't... No, I don't think so. But-

3. 2:25 – 4:09

   Protect the vulnerable, restart work, and the economic cliff

   1. BSBrendan Schaub2:25

      I think what's funny is in our group of friends, you have some who are, they won't step a foot outside their house, then you have some who are kinda in the middle, then you have some s- who are super loosey-goosey, you know? (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:38

      (laughs)

   3. BSBrendan Schaub2:38

      It's just like (sniffs) -

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:39

      Those are the dangerous ones.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub2:39

      ... it's just like a Rolodex.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:40

      The real problem is with people who are, are compromised, old people, you know, people whose immune system is already fragile. And now, the thing is if you or I got it, we'd be fine hopefully, but then what if you gave it to your grandma, you know what I mean?

   7. BSBrendan Schaub2:55

      Don't go around your grandma, dumbass.

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:56

      Don't go around your grandma. This is the real, the... I think the real way to handle this moving forward is probably going to be something along the lines of make sure that old people aren't exposed, make sure that high-risk people are not exposed, and make sure that you don't expose yourself to them if you have it.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub3:13

      Correct.

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:14

       And then, you know-

   11. BSBrendan Schaub3:15

       Get your ass back to work.

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:16

       Yeah. And hopefully there's some sort- sort of a treatment. But get your ass back to work is really important.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub3:20

       Hell yeah, it is.

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:21

       There's so many businesses that are going under. I don't think we've seen anything like this ever.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub3:24

       It's scary, man.

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:24

       Ever. In- in-

   17. BSBrendan Schaub3:26

       Uh-huh.

   18. JRJoe Rogan3:26

       ... I don't think ever in the history of America there's been a thing where everything just, like, instantly (snaps fingers) shut down. No one works, no one does anything, everyone stays home. When-

   19. BSBrendan Schaub3:35

       And how long are we gonna do it for though?

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:37

       Right. I think they're saying the end of May now.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub3:41

       Really? 'Cause-

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:41

       In California. That's what I've heard.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub3:42

       Well, California, the, the governor's kind of a pussy.

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:46

       (laughs)

   25. BSBrendan Schaub3:46

       And he's, he was talking about, you know, th- with this... We might go on, it might be like this for a year, you know? So-

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:51

       Did he say that?

   27. BSBrendan Schaub3:51

       Yeah. He said that. So again, he's a giant pussy. But when you hear Trump, he was talking to some reporter that asked him a question and he said, "I'm thinking, you know, we're not far off from after Easter opening things back up."

   28. JRJoe Rogan4:03

       Mm. Yeah. Look, if people... (sighs) Fuck. There's so many people-

   29. BSBrendan Schaub4:08

       It's so tough.

   30. JRJoe Rogan4:08

       There's so-
4. 4:09 – 6:35

   Fitness, immunity talk, and the ‘wake-up call’ for unhealthy lifestyles

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:09

      It's so, it's so tough. Like, look, if it's just us in this room, I am not that worried because I take a lot of vitamins, I'm in the fucking sauna every day, I have a very strong immune system.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub4:19

      You're fit.

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:20

      I take probiotics, I work out, yeah.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub4:21

      When you walked in, I said, "I will lick your face right now." You said, "What are we doing? Hugging? What are we doing?" I said, "I will lick your fucking face, Joe."

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:26

      (laughs)

   6. BSBrendan Schaub4:26

      "I'm not scared of shit." (claps hands) "I'm healthy as hell." (claps hands)

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:29

      Yeah, but that's the difference between someone who's actively taking care of their body and does so all year round.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub4:35

      Yes.

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:35

      Versus people who are always boozing, have high blood pressure, are overweight. I'm talking to you, Berke Kreischer. (laughs)

   10. BSBrendan Schaub4:41

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:41

       All these, all these people-

   12. BSBrendan Schaub4:42

       (laughs) You always think you're talking about... (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:45

       (laughs) I just wanna let him know that I am. Look, I love the guy, I don't want him to die.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub4:49

       Me too.

   15. JRJoe Rogan4:50

       There's a lot of people like that though that we're friends with that don't-

   16. BSBrendan Schaub4:52

       That's on you, homie.

   17. JRJoe Rogan4:54

       They don't... I know. It is on them.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub4:54

       Get in shape, dude.

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:55

       Yup, yup. If it, if it bounces right off you but it kills someone that's your age, whose fault is that?

   20. BSBrendan Schaub5:02

       If- if they're severely-

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:03

       It's kind of-

   22. BSBrendan Schaub5:03

       ... out of shape-

   23. JRJoe Rogan5:04

       ... it's kind of their fault.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub5:04

       ... that's on you, man.

   25. JRJoe Rogan5:05

       It's kind of their fault. Unless they have a disease. See, the- and then there's people that-

   26. BSBrendan Schaub5:08

       That's a different animal.

   27. JRJoe Rogan5:09

       Yeah, there's people that have diseases, and those diseases prevent them from being healthy. That's a different animal. So, and then you have to think about that percentage of the population. (sighs) There's so many variables, man.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub5:19

       Dude, I went to, uh, th- this market, th- this giant market over-

   29. JRJoe Rogan5:22

       Were they selling bats?

   30. BSBrendan Schaub5:23

       No, but I would've bought one.
5. 6:35 – 10:25

   Parenting in lockdown and why sports teach resilience

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:35

      (laughs) My daughter got up real early today. Like, she woke ... Set her alarm for 8:00. And I go, "Why'd you get up at 8:00?" She goes, "'Cause I realize when I get up at 10:00 that I don't get as much done during the day and the day is shorter."

   2. BSBrendan Schaub6:45

      Oh, man.

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:46

      I go, "Wow." I go, "That's very wise." So, you know how kids are dabbing? She's got like a half-

   4. BSBrendan Schaub6:51

      Doing this.

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:51

      She does a half-dab now. It's just ...

   6. BSBrendan Schaub6:52

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:53

      It's like a new thing. She says something. She goes, "I am wise."

   8. BSBrendan Schaub6:56

      (laughs) I am wi- (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:57

      And she's like flexing on me. (laughs)

   10. BSBrendan Schaub7:00

       (claps hands) That kid's gonna be successful, man.

   11. JRJoe Rogan7:01

       That's hilarious. She's th- ... She's a little beast. My 11-year-old's a beast.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub7:05

       Ain't it crazy to see that?

   13. JRJoe Rogan7:07

       It's crazy. It's weird. She's got all of my attributes, my like obsessive attributes, but without any of the, "I didn't have a good childhood." Like, she's got-

   14. BSBrendan Schaub7:16

       That's trouble.

   15. JRJoe Rogan7:17

       Well, it's d- ... Yeah, she's like super-

   16. BSBrendan Schaub7:17

       In a good way.

   17. JRJoe Rogan7:18

       She's super confident.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub7:19

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan7:20

       She's not, like, doing it because, like, I want someone to love me.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub7:23

       Yes.

   21. JRJoe Rogan7:23

       I want to prove-

   22. BSBrendan Schaub7:23

       Doesn't come from a dark place.

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:24

       ... that I have value. Yeah, it's not coming from, "I want to be valu-" ... She's like, "I want to be awesome at everything."

   24. BSBrendan Schaub7:28

       And that's when she's gonna thrive.

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:29

       And she's always laughing. She laughs at everything. She's this funny kid, man. She's always laughing.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub7:35

       I love it.

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:35

       Yeah, she's always, like, crack- ... Like, she's- ... She'll say something like, "Bah!" She thinks-

   28. BSBrendan Schaub7:38

       Nothing better.

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:39

       She thinks things are funny. Like, she's got a very interesting sense of humor. It's weird w- seeing kids grow up, you know, with no, uh, no fear. You know, like, I grew up-

   30. BSBrendan Schaub7:52

       Don't you worry about it though?
6. 10:25 – 13:45

   Fame, CTE worries, and the Jon Jones arrest video (plus classic tangents)

   1. BSBrendan Schaub10:25

      Talk to Jon Jones right now.

   2. JRJoe Rogan10:26

      Talk to Jon Jones right now. Right now. Yeah, right now. Yeah. I mean, t- ... I got s- ... This is the last, the last one with Jon Jones I got sad. That's the first time out of all the Jons things.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub10:38

      This recent one?

   4. JRJoe Rogan10:38

      Yeah, I got sad. I've been disappointed before, but this one I got sad. Um, because I watched that video, the vid- ... The arrest video. The arrest video was sad.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub10:48

      Ah, it's such a bummer when you watch that video.

   6. JRJoe Rogan10:50

      Y-

   7. BSBrendan Schaub10:50

      You know, you know, you know what was a little alarming there? When, when I think CTE has something to do with this. I know we harp on CTE, but when he goes, "Hey, Jon, I need you to do this, this, and this." He goes, "I'm gonna warn you, my short-term memory is terrible."

   8. JRJoe Rogan11:02

      Yeah.

   9. BSBrendan Schaub11:02

      "So, it's not because I'm drunk." And that wa- ... Even as he's drunk, he was cautious enough to say that. Saying, "Hey, man, my, my, my short-term memory is shit because I get punched in the head all the time."

   10. JRJoe Rogan11:12

       Yeah.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub11:12

       "So, that ... So, if you're basing it off that, we're gonna be in trouble." I was like, "Oh, no."

   12. JRJoe Rogan11:16

       I think that was a little bit of it.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub11:17

       And his legs were so skinny. (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan11:21

       (laughs) It fucks people up with those skinny legs.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub11:23

       Dude, they're so thin.

   16. JRJoe Rogan11:25

       Well, his calves are crazy. His calves are so much smaller than mine, and I'm so much smaller than him.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub11:30

       It's insane.

   18. JRJoe Rogan11:31

       It doesn't make ... How about Will Sasso's calves?

   19. BSBrendan Schaub11:33

       Oh, my God.

   20. JRJoe Rogan11:33

       Those are the most ridiculous things. Calen and I spent 15 minutes on Will Sasso's calfs the other day.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub11:39

       Fascinating.

   22. JRJoe Rogan11:39

       They're crazy.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub11:39

       Calen has good calves too.

   24. JRJoe Rogan11:41

       They're not bad, but they're not Will Sasso's.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub11:42

       No. Not Sass- ... No, Sasso.

   26. JRJoe Rogan11:43

       Sasso seems like he should be able to jump over a building.

   27. BSBrendan Schaub11:46

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan11:46

       Like, he should be able to just ... From a standing position, just launch himself, and it's-

   29. BSBrendan Schaub11:48

       He looks like Hulk.

   30. JRJoe Rogan11:49

       Yeah.
7. 13:45 – 22:33

   Restaurants under pressure, Venice homelessness, and tracing COVID’s spread

   1. JRJoe Rogan13:45

      That place, Felix, we were supposed to go, um, right before... Well, I went on the 14th. It was-

   2. BSBrendan Schaub13:51

      With Kallen?

   3. JRJoe Rogan13:52

      No, I went with my wife on the 14th, right before the lockdown. And we were like, "Should we go out? We should go out. Let's just go out. Let's just do it." We had reservations, but we had them, like, five days earlier and started getting... As it getting closer and closer, it seemed like everything was, like, kind of, shutting down. People were pulling away.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub14:07

      Yeah, you could feel it.

   5. JRJoe Rogan14:07

      And then it was, like, a couple days later that they shut down everything.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub14:10

      But you did eat there?

   7. JRJoe Rogan14:11

      Yeah, we ate there.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub14:12

      It's good, huh?

   9. JRJoe Rogan14:13

      Fucking fantastic. That place is awesome. Apparently, they and, um, a lot of other restaurants, they have to-go. I think Felix is doing Felix to-go. And so you just order-

   10. BSBrendan Schaub14:22

       All of them have to do that.

   11. JRJoe Rogan14:23

       Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub14:23

       Fricking Flappers hit me up because they, uh, they have to... That's how they're making money. That's how they're covering their- their rent right now, is they have to sell the f-... And they have good food, but they have to do the takeout.

   13. JRJoe Rogan14:33

       Mm-hmm. Well...

   14. BSBrendan Schaub14:33

       Just to keep the doors open.

   15. JRJoe Rogan14:34

       I'm glad people are innovating and they're coming up with ways to- to stay open, but it would be a real bummer if places like Felix went under or that other place that Kallen loves, Via Veneto, (clears throat) that place in Venice. That place is excellent too.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub14:47

       Excellent. The thing about those, they have high rent.

   17. JRJoe Rogan14:49

       Yes, high rent.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub14:50

       And off Main Street.

   19. JRJoe Rogan14:51

       Yep. I mean, they're- they're right on Abbot Kinney, right?

   20. BSBrendan Schaub14:54

       Uh, they're- they're off Main Street. Well- well, Felix off Abbot.

   21. JRJoe Rogan14:57

       They're off Main Street. Yeah.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub14:57

       Yeah, even higher rent. What the fuck? Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan14:58

       Yeah. Abbot Kinney's the-

   24. BSBrendan Schaub14:59

       Abbot's the most expensive road in, uh, California.

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:01

       Is it really?

   26. BSBrendan Schaub15:01

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:02

       Yeah. Why does everybody like that area? Is it the homeless people that attracts them?

   28. BSBrendan Schaub15:05

       There's a... It- it's like-

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:06

       (laughs)

   30. BSBrendan Schaub15:06

       ... it's a weird vibe. (laughs) It's like the poorest of the poor and the richest of the rich.
8. 22:33 – 27:18

   Dana White’s pandemic UFC plans: ‘Fight Island,’ old-school promotions, and ropes vs cages

   1. BSBrendan Schaub22:33

      That's a, there- there's part of me that when Dana came out and said he's gonna do the UFC, there's part of me that was, uh, super proud of him. Just, you know, I, I, I know he was gonna get a lot of blowback for it and the UFC's getting a lot of blowback for it. But a part of me was like, "Fuck yeah, dude. Good for you, man."

   2. JRJoe Rogan22:50

      Yeah.

   3. BSBrendan Schaub22:50

      "For figuring it out. Good for you. Good for you."

   4. JRJoe Rogan22:54

      Pretty gangster move. Go to an Indian reservation.

   5. BSBrendan Schaub22:57

      Really g- and then went, "And for international fights, how about an island, bitches?"

   6. JRJoe Rogan23:00

      (laughs)

   7. BSBrendan Schaub23:00

      It's like, wait, what? Is this Mortal Kombat?

   8. JRJoe Rogan23:03

      Well, I bet, I bet someone who, uh, Enter the Dragon. (laughs)

   9. BSBrendan Schaub23:06

      (laughs) Wait, what? Island fights? Yeah, don't worry about it. I'm not gonna tell you where it's at. I'm not telling anybody. We're just gonna, you're gonna get on a flight, private flight, and we're flying you to the island, you and your team." I was like, (sighs) "I hope they fight on the sand."

   10. JRJoe Rogan23:17

       I hope they fight in the sand.

   11. BSBrendan Schaub23:17

       I can't hate on the guy. I can't hate on the guy anymore, man. He's fucking-

   12. JRJoe Rogan23:19

       I hope they fight in the sand.

   13. BSBrendan Schaub23:20

       Oh, it'd be so sick.

   14. JRJoe Rogan23:22

       (laughs) Right on the beach.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub23:23

       So sick.

   16. JRJoe Rogan23:23

       Do you remember Bodog, when Bodog had fights on the beach?

   17. BSBrendan Schaub23:26

       Yeah, yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan23:28

       Bodog was interesting, man. People forgot about Bodog.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub23:31

       Fedor started there. Cain started there.

   20. JRJoe Rogan23:33

       Yeah. Well, Fedor didn't start there. Fedor went to there.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub23:34

       Oh, I'm sorry. He did start there, but he- he did fight on there. Cain, I think, uh... He fought on there, started there.

   22. JRJoe Rogan23:39

       Yeah, Cain started there. Yeah, yeah, as, uh, Masvidal fought Yves Edwards there.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub23:42

       That's right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan23:43

       Stopped him with a head kick.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub23:44

       Fuck, dude.

   26. JRJoe Rogan23:44

       Yeah. Dude, there were some great fights. Remember when Fedor... Did Fedor fight Matt Lindland on Bodog? Was that Bodog in Russia?

   27. BSBrendan Schaub23:50

       Or was that Affliction?

   28. JRJoe Rogan23:51

       ... no, I don't think so.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub23:53

       I think you're right.

   30. JRJoe Rogan23:53

       I think Fedor and Matt Lindland was Bodog and r- ... and I think Matt Lindland was about to take Fedor down and Fedor grabbed the rope. And it was a big controversy.
9. 27:18 – 41:43

   UFC 249 deep-dive: matchups, training camps, card depth, and COVID testing logistics

   1. BSBrendan Schaub27:18

      Did you think, uh, UFC 249 was gonna happen?

   2. JRJoe Rogan27:22

      I didn't know what was gonna happen. When Khabib couldn't make it, I was like, "I bet this is gonna be the end of it."

   3. BSBrendan Schaub27:26

      Me too, I was like, "Oh, it's over."

   4. JRJoe Rogan27:27

      But then I saw Kamaru Usman saying, "You better get ready to m- ... make weight, bitch," and I was like, "Oh, my God, if Usman fights Masvidal, holy shit."

   5. BSBrendan Schaub27:34

      Christ.

   6. JRJoe Rogan27:35

      "Like, that's worth it. That's a fight." But then when I heard it was Gaethje and Ferguson, I'm like, "Oh, shit."

   7. BSBrendan Schaub27:41

      First team, all violence.

   8. JRJoe Rogan27:43

      I don't know what Gaethje's been doing though. Has he been training like he's training for a fight?

   9. BSBrendan Schaub27:48

      I don't know. They, they asked him. I saw, I think it was Brett, uh, Okamoto goes, uh, "How prepared are you?" And he ... It took him a while to answer and then he, he said something to him and I was like, "Oh, this could be tough." He goes, "I have 18 minutes in me."

   10. JRJoe Rogan28:03

       (laughs)

   11. BSBrendan Schaub28:04

       (laughs) He g- ... He goes, "All, all ... You know, all my fights, I, I don't go decision. I either get knocked out or I knock somebody out." He goes, uh, "You know, I talk to my family, I talk to my coaches, I now have 18 minutes of fucking fury." And he goes, "And it's pretty tough to deal with." And I was like, "God-

   12. JRJoe Rogan28:16

       It is tough to deal with, but if anybody-

   13. BSBrendan Schaub28:18

       It's the toughest to deal with.

   14. JRJoe Rogan28:19

       But if there's anybody that has the endurance to take it to that 18 minutes and keep going, it's Tony.

   15. BSBrendan Schaub28:25

       He, he, he-

   16. JRJoe Rogan28:25

       Tony has the most endurance I've ever seen.

   17. BSBrendan Schaub28:27

       But the only, the only thing that's a little scary when I heard him say that, he does throw caution to the wind, Gaethje does, and it's tough to deal with 'cause he's probably the hardest hitter at 55, and Tony gets hit, man. That's one thing about Tony-

   18. JRJoe Rogan28:38

       Doesn't get hit.

   19. BSBrendan Schaub28:38

       He does like to get hit. He- he-

   20. JRJoe Rogan28:40

       (laughs)

   21. BSBrendan Schaub28:40

       I think he actually enjoys it and he welcomes it. With Gaethje, I don't know if he can play that game, especially for 18 minutes.

   22. JRJoe Rogan28:46

       Well, I don't know if he enjoys it, I just think that he has this pressure forward style.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub28:50

       He's game for it, is what I mean.

   24. JRJoe Rogan28:51

       Yeah, he's, he's game.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub28:52

       He's game.

   26. JRJoe Rogan28:52

       He's 100% game for it. But he has such a pressure style that it's inevitable that you get hit, you know? He's not fighting like Wonderboy or something like that, he's not fighting elusive-

   27. BSBrendan Schaub29:00

       No.

   28. JRJoe Rogan29:00

       ... or mighty mouse. He's fighting ... He's, he's trying to break you. I mean, in Tony's fights, there's somewhere around the second or third round where you see the look in these guys' faces, like, "Motherfucker."

   29. BSBrendan Schaub29:09

       I know.

   30. JRJoe Rogan29:09

       "How is he keeping up this pace?"
10. 41:43 – 45:57

    From football to the cage: why elite team athletes can thrive in MMA

    1. JRJoe Rogan41:43

       ... but there's a thing about guys like that, where from the time they're young, they realize this insane work ethic is how you make it. And they also ... They're, they're used to these regimented programs, right? Where a lot of football players, and you can speak on this, they're used to these programs where everybody's doing the same kind of work, versus boxers or, or MMA fighters.

    2. BSBrendan Schaub42:05

       Yeah, you're on your own.

    3. JRJoe Rogan42:05

       You're on your own, and sometimes-

    4. BSBrendan Schaub42:07

       Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan42:07

       ... you half-ass it and sometimes you're not disciplined, you fuck off, you don't go to kickboxing. You decide, "I don't want to go to jujitsu today, I wanna fuck my girlfriend." That kind of shit doesn't happen in football.

    6. BSBrendan Schaub42:16

       It doesn't work that way. E- especially at, like, University of Colorado or Ohio State. So, if you're one of 10 linebackers and you're all doing the exact same thing, you're all fighting for your job every day.

    7. JRJoe Rogan42:27

       Yeah.

    8. BSBrendan Schaub42:27

       And if you, for whatever reason, don't do something well and this guy does, he's probably gonna play over you.

    9. JRJoe Rogan42:33

       Yeah.

    10. BSBrendan Schaub42:33

        So you're like ... It's this heightened, fricking competition-

    11. JRJoe Rogan42:36

        Yeah.

    12. BSBrendan Schaub42:36

        ... all the time, man. And it brings the best out of you.

    13. JRJoe Rogan42:39

        It does. Eric Andrews was a football player too, right?

    14. BSBrendan Schaub42:42

        Yeah.

    15. JRJoe Rogan42:43

        Another beast.

    16. BSBrendan Schaub42:43

        Alabama stud.

    17. JRJoe Rogan42:44

        Go watch his fight with Khalil Roundtree.

    18. BSBrendan Schaub42:46

        Oh, he looked amazing.

    19. JRJoe Rogan42:47

        And the motherfucker doesn't flinch. Khalil Roundtree was lighting him up, lighting him up. He never flinched. Khalil Roundtree was fucking his legs up in a way, uh, very rarely you see. 'Cause-

    20. BSBrendan Schaub42:59

        His leg was so fucked up.

    21. JRJoe Rogan43:00

        And he ... Khalil was full Muay Thai light on the front legs. Whack, whack, whack, whoa.

    22. BSBrendan Schaub43:05

        He looked phenomenal.

    23. JRJoe Rogan43:06

        Dude, when Khalil's on his game, he, he displays some of the best Muay Thai you're gonna see in the UFC.

    24. BSBrendan Schaub43:12

        That, that Eric Andrews just ... I know you don't watch football, Joe. So, he played at Alabama, and he was on the national champion team. So that, that's like crème de la crème.

    25. JRJoe Rogan43:19

        Mm-hmm.

    26. BSBrendan Schaub43:19

        Doesn't get better than that. That's like wrestling at Ohio State or Oklahoma.

    27. JRJoe Rogan43:22

        Mm-hmm.

    28. BSBrendan Schaub43:22

        Like, he was a high-level football player.

    29. JRJoe Rogan43:24

        Bro, he's a stud. That guy is an animal.

    30. BSBrendan Schaub43:27

        Yeah, I'm a fan.
11. 45:57 – 48:20

    True crime bingeing and the ‘Chaos’ rabbit hole: Manson, CIA programs, and the Unabomber

    1. JRJoe Rogan45:57

       I'm on something right now that I know you're, you're, you've read, that Chaos book.

    2. BSBrendan Schaub46:01

       The Charles Manson book?

    3. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       Yes.

    4. BSBrendan Schaub46:02

       Dude.

    5. JRJoe Rogan46:03

       Bro, he's coming in.

    6. BSBrendan Schaub46:04

       Who-

    7. JRJoe Rogan46:04

       Tom O'Neill's coming in next week.

    8. BSBrendan Schaub46:06

       Oh, shit.

    9. JRJoe Rogan46:06

       Yes. I'm in the middle of that book right now.

    10. BSBrendan Schaub46:08

        It's so good.

    11. JRJoe Rogan46:10

        Holy ... Holy shit. Holy shit.

    12. BSBrendan Schaub46:13

        Nuts. You look at Manson a little different.

    13. JRJoe Rogan46:14

        You look at the whole thing a little different.

    14. BSBrendan Schaub46:15

        Yes.

    15. JRJoe Rogan46:16

        You're like, "What?" Yeah, I don't wanna say too much 'cause I, I want Tom to explain everything.

    16. BSBrendan Schaub46:20

        When are you having him on?

    17. JRJoe Rogan46:21

        Next week.

    18. BSBrendan Schaub46:21

        That book's so fucking good.

    19. JRJoe Rogan46:23

        Dude, I'm balls deep in that book right now.

    20. BSBrendan Schaub46:24

        I've been ranting and raving about that book for ...

    21. JRJoe Rogan46:26

        Grip. Well, what ... Well, the things that are absolutely provable that he knows, Charles Manson, the CIA, and the secret history of the '60s, the, the things that are absolutely 100% provable, just those things are mind blowers, where you're like, "Whoa."

    22. BSBrendan Schaub46:43

        And, but, and it's documented too.

    23. JRJoe Rogan46:45

        Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

    24. BSBrendan Schaub46:45

        How the CIA-

    25. JRJoe Rogan46:46

        Yeah.

    26. BSBrendan Schaub46:46

        ... and the LSD house in, in, uh, Haight-Ashbury in San Francisco-

    27. JRJoe Rogan46:50

        Yeah.

    28. BSBrendan Schaub46:51

        ... and how he was doing wild shit and the CIA would let him go.

    29. JRJoe Rogan46:53

        Yeah.

    30. BSBrendan Schaub46:53

        Or how he was out here at that ranch-
12. 48:20 – 50:28

    Debunking 5G panic and diagnosing online doom psychology

    1. JRJoe Rogan48:20

       But he is correct that technology is eventually going to overcome people. Now imagine, and this is, this is, we're going deep down the Eddie Bravo rabbit hole.

    2. BSBrendan Schaub48:30

       I love it.

    3. JRJoe Rogan48:31

       Imagine if you were artificial intelligence and you had decided you wanted to assimilate with people, but you had to convince people. One of the best ways to convince people is to get them addicted to technology (snaps fingers) . Check, done, right? Everybody's addicted-

    4. BSBrendan Schaub48:47

       Cellphone.

    5. JRJoe Rogan48:47

       ... to technology. Then get them connected through social media apps, get them connected to technology. I mean, how many times you go to a restaurant, well, you don't, not right now, not at all, but any, anytime you go out in public before the quarantine, everybody was on their phone.

    6. BSBrendan Schaub49:00

       Everybody.

    7. JRJoe Rogan49:00

       Check. Now you throw a virus in there. So now they can't be with people. And then you make it so when they see people, they can't touch them. They can't hug people. They can't shake hands. They have to make distance. So now the only way you can connect with people is through Zoom or FaceTime or-

    8. BSBrendan Schaub49:17

       Technology.

    9. JRJoe Rogan49:18

       ... all the technology.

    10. BSBrendan Schaub49:18

        And then, and then while we're all quarantined, you're installing 5G towers.

    11. JRJoe Rogan49:22

        Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

    12. BSBrendan Schaub49:26

        Did you see that? Uh, did you post that? Where it goes-

    13. JRJoe Rogan49:27

        Yes.

    14. BSBrendan Schaub49:28

        With that little Duvall?

    15. JRJoe Rogan49:29

        Little Duvall, yeah.

    16. BSBrendan Schaub49:30

        He goes, "Tell me, tell..." (laughs) He goes, "You tell motherfuckers."

    17. JRJoe Rogan49:32

        (laughs)

    18. BSBrendan Schaub49:32

        He goes, "You need the 5G towers and-

    19. JRJoe Rogan49:35

        Five countries have 5G towers.

    20. BSBrendan Schaub49:37

        The rest more or less-

    21. JRJoe Rogan49:37

        More than 100 countries have coronavirus-

    22. BSBrendan Schaub49:39

        Yeah.

    23. JRJoe Rogan49:39

        ... you fucking idiots. Not 5G.

    24. BSBrendan Schaub49:40

        Legit point. Legit point.

    25. JRJoe Rogan49:41

        It's the best point.

    26. BSBrendan Schaub49:43

        The best point.

    27. JRJoe Rogan49:43

        It's one of those points where you hear, you go, "Oh, yeah." "I saw Tyrese posted." He was like, "Y'all need to look at this 5G. That's what's causing all this and killing kids and coronavirus." I was like, "Oh, oh, buddy."

    28. BSBrendan Schaub49:53

        Oh, he's so dumb. "Oh, buddy."

    29. JRJoe Rogan49:53

        There's so many people-

    30. BSBrendan Schaub49:54

        "Just make Fast and Furious 19. Shut the fuck up." (laughs)
13. 50:28 – 1:16:00

    Quarantine outrage culture: ‘eat the rich,’ Ellen backlash, and celebrity pile-ons

    1. JRJoe Rogan50:28

       I saw some lady write some post about Justin Bieber. She was making fun of Justin Bieber's house, which, by the way, looks pretty pimp. They were like, "It's like-"

    2. BSBrendan Schaub50:37

       It looks fucking dope.

    3. JRJoe Rogan50:38

       Yeah, I know. They're like, "It's so disgusting."

    4. BSBrendan Schaub50:40

       It looks like SimCity-

    5. JRJoe Rogan50:41

       It's like a ugly house.

    6. BSBrendan Schaub50:41

       Uh, it looks like a stupid SimCity house. Like...

    7. JRJoe Rogan50:43

       But then she wrote, "Eat the rich." I'm like, "What?"

    8. BSBrendan Schaub50:48

       (sighs)

    9. JRJoe Rogan50:48

       Like, he's a singer. He's a-

    10. BSBrendan Schaub50:49

        Meanwhile she looks, meanwhile she looks like an armadillo.

    11. JRJoe Rogan50:52

        Yeah.

    12. BSBrendan Schaub50:52

        Yeah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan50:53

        I'm sure.

    14. BSBrendan Schaub50:53

        Let's eat you, bitch. (laughs)

    15. JRJoe Rogan50:55

        (laughs) Take your shell off. (laughs)

    16. BSBrendan Schaub50:57

        (laughs)

    17. JRJoe Rogan50:57

        Throw it, uh, uh, armadillo on the barbie.

    18. BSBrendan Schaub51:00

        Take, take the shell off.

    19. JRJoe Rogan51:01

        People are so crazy though. Like, because they're angry and they're frustrated. Like, it's like, uh, is it his fault that he's a super successful musician that has a crazy dope house?

    20. BSBrendan Schaub51:09

        And super talented?

    21. JRJoe Rogan51:11

        Yeah.

    22. BSBrendan Schaub51:11

        And also, that house? Let me look at your house, bitch.

    23. JRJoe Rogan51:14

        Yeah.

    24. BSBrendan Schaub51:14

        Let me look at the armadillo house.

    25. JRJoe Rogan51:15

        She shouldn't have a house. That's why she's angry. That's why she's like, "Oh, eat the rich."

    26. BSBrendan Schaub51:18

        Yes.

    27. JRJoe Rogan51:18

        She doesn't have a house.

    28. BSBrendan Schaub51:19

        I saw one guy post this thing me and Cal talked about three years. "Hey, I've, I've heard horrible stories about Ellen. For every bad story you guys share, I'll donate $2 to this," you know, Corona-

    29. JRJoe Rogan51:28

        Yeah.

    30. BSBrendan Schaub51:28

        I'm like, "Dude, what's wrong with you, man? Do something positive. You think this is positive-

Episode duration: 3:17:12