JRE MMA Show #95 with Brendan Schaub

1. 0:03 – 1:18

   UFC fight week logistics: empty arena, distancing, and testing

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:03

      Fight week. (gasps) It's here.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub0:06

      Dude.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      It's here. We're just a couple days away. Here we are, Thursday. We got Friday, and then Saturday's fights, and I gotta go. I'm gonna be in Jacksonville, Florida. I'm gonna be doing commentary in an empty arena. No one's gonna be near me. Everybody has to be really far away from each other. We're gonna be on separate corners of the octagon, which, which fucking sucks.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub0:24

      You, DC-

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:25

      And Hanick.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub0:26

      ... and, and Hanick.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:26

      'Cause, 'cause when things go crazy, DC and I are always grabbing each other.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub0:29

      I know.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:29

      We're like, "Ah!"

   10. BSBrendan Schaub0:31

       You guys vibe off of each other.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       Can't do that. Everybody's a pussy. But we're all tested. That's what doesn't make any sense.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub0:36

       That's what I'm saying. If you all agree, like, yeah-

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       Yeah.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub0:38

       ... we'll risk it, man. We're all, we're all healthy. We're all fine.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       Well, not only are we all healthy and fine, we're tested. We're, we're clean. We don't have it. It's not... Like, we, we don't have to be far apart from each other. I got tested yesterday. I got the results back from my nose swab. That's negative. And then two days before that, I took an antibody test. That's negative, too. I'm, I'm 100% negative.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub0:58

       So whose idea is this?

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       It's fucking s- the state. The state just has real rigid guidelines, apparently. They just wanna make sure that everybody's safe. Cam Hanes wanted to come with me. He couldn't come. Cam or anybody else.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub1:09

       They won't let Cam in?

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       Nope, nope.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub1:11

       (laughs) Do you know what Cam would do to COVID?

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:13

       (laughs) It doesn't have a chance.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub1:14

       Not a chance.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:15

       He's so good with that kinda cardio.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub1:16

       God, come on, man.

2. 1:18 – 2:58

   Elon Musk, COVID statistics, and debate over death counts

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:18

      Listen, I had Elon on the podcast yesterday and we talked about what the actual death rate is versus what everyone thought it was going to be.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub1:26

      Is he good at reading stats?

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:27

      Yeah.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub1:27

      I don't know.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:28

      He said it's a, um, a magnitude of 10 to 50%, 10 to 50 times less deadly than they thought it was going to be. That's pretty big.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub1:37

      That's huge.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:38

      Yeah. The, especially when they start getting to things like... I don't know if you've seen the, um, um, there's a prison where they tested these prisoners and 98% of them had it and were, had been-

   8. BSBrendan Schaub1:47

      I had no idea.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:48

      ... asymptomatic.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub1:49

       Yep.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:49

       Yeah.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub1:49

       Everybody was fine?

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:50

       Yeah, they're finding that in a lot of places. A lot of people are asymptomatic.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub1:54

       And Elon goes hard in the paint, too.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:56

       Yeah, he goes hard in the paint.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub1:57

       Which I love.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:58

       He said yesterday-

   18. BSBrendan Schaub1:59

       I'm a huge fan.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:59

       ... if you got bit by a shark and g- and died, and you had COVID, they would count it as a COVID death.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub2:03

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:04

       Right?

   22. BSBrendan Schaub2:04

       100%. I mean, he's probably making a joke.

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:06

       He's, he is, but he's not.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub2:08

       Yeah, but he's not.

   25. JRJoe Rogan2:08

       Yeah.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub2:09

       Yeah, he's not.

   27. JRJoe Rogan2:10

       Yeah.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub2:10

       It's so, it's so ridiculous, man.

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:12

       Mm-hmm. Did we find out whether or not that's true about the heart attacks, the heart disease? 'Cause someone else brought it up to me today. Someone else who's a, a, a pretty smart person in New York.

   30. JVJamie Vernon2:22

       I looked. I c- I couldn't even find the numbers, so I don't know where they got those numbers.
3. 2:58 – 4:52

   Risk factors, reopening arguments, and the 'get in shape' rant

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:58

      I don't think so. I think shutting it down for a couple weeks is not a bad idea to get a sense of it, but once the numbers are back... I mean, I think right now, it needs to restart. People need to be precautious. They need to follow social distancing guidelines, wear masks if possible, especially until we get it all wrapped up and figure out what it is in, in terms of, like, what the treatment c- like, they, they ha- what is that stuff called again? Rem- remdesivir? Was it?

   2. JVJamie Vernon3:20

      Remdesivir.

   3. JRJoe Rogan3:21

      Remdesivir, this new, uh, antiviral treatment that they say is, uh-

   4. BSBrendan Schaub3:25

      Supposed to work?

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:25

      ... w- w- working really well with it.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub3:27

      I think if you have underlying health conditions-

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:29

      Yes.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub3:29

      ... and you're over 60, put on a mask. If you don't, it should be up to me if I wanna wear it.

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:33

      Did you know that the average age of COVID death users, or p- people who get COVID and die is higher than the average age of death?

   10. BSBrendan Schaub3:44

       That's nuts.

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:45

       (laughs)

   12. BSBrendan Schaub3:45

       That's nuts. I'm so glad Elon came on.

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:48

       Isn't that a crazy number?

   14. BSBrendan Schaub3:48

       And just dropped some fucking knowledge.

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:50

       That's a crazy number. That's crazy.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub3:51

       You know what's, you know what's weird? That- And it, it... There's this weird, like, toxic culture who wants it to be bad.

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:57

       Mm-hmm.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub3:57

       So when Elon spits these facts, I'm sure your podcast comes out, people are like, "No," and they start t- sh- throwing other facts. Like, no, dude, these are the stats.

   19. JRJoe Rogan4:04

       Yeah.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub4:04

       It's tough to argue with these hard, cold facts, man.

   21. JRJoe Rogan4:07

       Dude, people, people are so scared.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub4:08

       "Well, Elon's no doctor." Again, save it, dude.

   23. JRJoe Rogan4:11

       Yeah.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub4:11

       We're looking at stats.

   25. JRJoe Rogan4:13

       Yeah.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub4:13

       I think he can read stats.

   27. JRJoe Rogan4:14

       Yeah.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub4:14

       The dude can get us to the fucking... To Mars. He can build a fucking planet, you know?

   29. JRJoe Rogan4:18

       (laughs)

   30. BSBrendan Schaub4:18

       I think we, I think we're gonna be all right. He can read those. I'm gonna listen to that guy.
4. 4:52 – 6:40

   Rattlesnakes everywhere: trail encounters and venom horror stories

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:52

      Bro, how many fucking rattlesnakes are in your neighborhood? Every day, you're sending me a video of a new rattlesnake. That's ridiculous.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub4:58

      And that's, that's, that's like that dirt Mulholland Road and the Topanga Canyon. Like, that's those dirt roads.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:04

      Mm-hmm.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub5:04

      And they're everywhere.

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:06

      Do they go on the road in sun?

   6. BSBrendan Schaub5:06

      They go on the road. They go to... In the sun.

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:09

      Ugh.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub5:09

      And now, I'm just, I don't know, accustomed to... I used to be so scared to go by. In the morning, I'm like, "God, here we go."

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:15

      (laughs)

   10. BSBrendan Schaub5:15

       I'd be so scared. But now, it's like, they're not gonna bother me. I mean, if I, if I step on one, it's, uh, you know, it's gonna be trouble.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:21

       Yeah.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub5:21

       But, um, I'd still rather get... Well, I'd, I'd rather get COVID than get bit by a rattlesnake. I'll tell you that right now.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:26

       100%.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub5:27

       100%.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:27

       100%.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub5:28

       But, you, they look like these big logs.

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:31

       That Mike Posner guy, he got bit by a rattlesnake.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub5:33

       He got bit by one.

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:33

       And he was fucked up, right?

   20. JVJamie Vernon5:34

       Baby... It was a baby one.

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:35

       Yeah.

   22. JVJamie Vernon5:36

       So they have stronger venom, I guess? 'Cause they don't know.

   23. JRJoe Rogan5:38

       No, that's a myth, apparently.

   24. BSBrendan Schaub5:39

       Yeah, apparently.

   25. JVJamie Vernon5:39

       Okay. Well, all right well... Okay.

   26. JRJoe Rogan5:41

       But they all sucked.

   27. JVJamie Vernon5:42

       Okay. It didn't look-

   28. BSBrendan Schaub5:43

       Did you see-

   29. JVJamie Vernon5:43

       ... like it was fun for them.

   30. JRJoe Rogan5:43

       No.
5. 6:40 – 9:11

   Alex Smith’s leg injury, stem cells, and the future of bionic upgrades

   1. UDUnknown (friend/example being discussed)6:40

      Did you watch that thing I sent you about Alex Smith, that quarterback? Did you see it?

   2. BSBrendan Schaub6:44

      I saw it.

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:44

      I, I started watching-

   4. BSBrendan Schaub6:45

      Insane.

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:45

      ... but I couldn't. It was gross.

   6. UDUnknown (friend/example being discussed)6:46

      Yeah, it was gnarly, man.

   7. BSBrendan Schaub6:48

      It's insane. He got, he got some, uh, flesh-eating bacteria in his leg once... A compound fracture when he was playing for the Redskins.

   8. JRJoe Rogan6:53

      (laughs)

   9. BSBrendan Schaub6:53

      They had to take muscle from his left leg and put it in the right leg. It's just a nightmare. I probably would've amputated it.

   10. JRJoe Rogan6:59

       What?

   11. UDUnknown (friend/example being discussed)6:59

       He wants to... He's still under contract, and he's, he's gonna try to play again-

   12. BSBrendan Schaub7:03

       He'll do it.

   13. UDUnknown (friend/example being discussed)7:03

       ... but, I mean, I don't know if that's gonna happen.

   14. JRJoe Rogan7:05

       Is that how-

   15. BSBrendan Schaub7:06

       It, it, it was so bad where they're like, "You're not gonna have motion in your foot." And most, the, the, when we see these kind of, um, injuries, it's usually soldiers from stepping on IEDs or whatever, so most of the time they just amputate it because your leg's never gonna be the same. Otherwise, you're looking at 18-month, you know, you're in this cast with braces and screws into the muscle and the bone. You're looking at that long layover. And even after then, you're probably not gonna have motion in your foot. I'm like, "Dude, just take it off. Give me that fucking cool RoboCop carbon fiber one." Toss some Specialized stickers on that bitch, get it sponsored.

   16. JRJoe Rogan7:36

       But the thing is-

   17. BSBrendan Schaub7:36

       Fucking Shred City.

   18. JRJoe Rogan7:37

       ... they're changing, like every year, they're changing what they can and can't do in terms of, like, biologicals like stem cells-

   19. BSBrendan Schaub7:45

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan7:45

       ... and different treatments they come up with. You know, they can fix ACLs now without, uh, using anything other than your ACL.

   21. BSBrendan Schaub7:52

       Oh, damn.

   22. JRJoe Rogan7:53

       Yeah. Dr. Roddy Magee was showing me these videos of this guy who they did it to, and then he went into the Olympics four months after surgery.

   23. BSBrendan Schaub8:00

       That's pretty gangster.

   24. JRJoe Rogan8:01

       It's crazy. They're blowing out their ACLs, right, the ACL snaps.

   25. BSBrendan Schaub8:04

       Which was game over back in the day.

   26. JRJoe Rogan8:06

       Yeah, well, it used to be they had to replace it, uh, either with a patella tendon graft, hamstring graft-

   27. BSBrendan Schaub8:11

       Or a cadaver.

   28. JRJoe Rogan8:12

       ... or a cadaver.

   29. BSBrendan Schaub8:12

       Cadaver, yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan8:12

       I've had a patella tendon graft on the left and a cadaver on my right. But this thing, now they're taking the actual ACL that exists and they have some new way of suturing it, and they squirt some stem cells up in there and it heals up.
6. 9:11 – 15:32

   UFC 249 hype: Gaethje vs Ferguson as chaos vs endurance

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:11

      Did you, have you watched the Countdown Show for this, this weekend's event?

   2. BSBrendan Schaub9:14

      I watched it. Did you see the trailer that I posted?

   3. JRJoe Rogan9:18

      No, I did not.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub9:19

      (puffs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan9:19

      What'd you post?

   6. BSBrendan Schaub9:19

      I, I got emotional watching it. Well, Dana posted it and someone sa- sh- sent it to me. I'm like, "Oh, shit, I gotta (laughs) I gotta post it?" And Dana has me blocked, so I can't click on his profile and see it. I'm like, "What the fuck, man?"

   7. JRJoe Rogan9:31

      Oh, he has you blocked on Instagram?

   8. BSBrendan Schaub9:32

      Yeah, I'm like, "We're, oh, we're, we're blocking people now?" We're throwing spinach at shit?

   9. JRJoe Rogan9:36

      When? (laughs) Who would he block you?

   10. BSBrendan Schaub9:37

       We're blocking... I don't know. Probably when we got into that whole scuffle on Instagram.

   11. JRJoe Rogan9:40

       Oh.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub9:41

       But that was his doing, not mine.

   13. JRJoe Rogan9:42

       How long ago was that?

   14. BSBrendan Schaub9:43

       At least two years ago.

   15. JRJoe Rogan9:44

       God.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub9:44

       That's his doing, not mine.

   17. JRJoe Rogan9:45

       I tried so hard to mend that bridge.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub9:48

       (sighs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan9:48

       I've had so many sit-downs.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub9:50

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan9:51

       (laughs)

   22. BSBrendan Schaub9:51

       I don't get the hate, man. I don't get it.

   23. JRJoe Rogan9:54

       But I love both of you-

   24. BSBrendan Schaub9:54

       Who's a bigger-

   25. JRJoe Rogan9:55

       ... so it's a problem, you know? It's like I don't get it.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub9:57

       But it's so strange, like when you, when you look at a list of people, like, who's a bigger advocate for the UFC?

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:02

       No- nobody. Nobody but you.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub10:03

       I mean, y- but... You?

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:04

       Yeah.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub10:05

       And you work for it.
7. 15:32 – 18:17

   Stacked card tour: Cruz, Ngannou–Rozenstruik, Kattar–Stephens and more

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:32

      It's a giant card. The card is stacked. It is one of the most stacked cards in the history of the sport.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub15:38

      Since UFC 100.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:39

      It's-

   4. BSBrendan Schaub15:39

      If you ... From top to bottom-

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:40

      Yeah.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub15:40

      ... UFC 100.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:41

      It's, there's so many great fights that people are forgetting, like, oh yeah, look, uh, Francis Ngannou versus Rosenstrat. I mean, that fight.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub15:50

      Filthy, dude.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:51

      Holy shit.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub15:52

       Dude, how about Dominick Cruz?

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       Saudo-

   12. BSBrendan Schaub15:53

       The King at 135.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:54

       ... Cruz. Crazy. And everybody's forgetting, it's so good, people forgot Jeremy Stephens versus Calvin Kattar.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub16:00

       That's a fucking fight.

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       That's a ... Look, I really believe Calvin Kattar is the dark horse in that division.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub16:05

       That's fair.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:05

       I think he might be the champ some day.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub16:07

       I agree.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:07

       He's got a real shot.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub16:08

       Yep.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:09

       Goddamn that's a good fight.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub16:10

       I wish it was five rounds though.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:12

       Uh, yeah-

   24. BSBrendan Schaub16:13

       Kattar's better than five.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:14

       Well, I ... Yeah, well, if you look at the Zabite fight, he was fucking Zabite up-

   26. BSBrendan Schaub16:18

       Oh, he would've, he would've beat Zabite, man.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:19

       ... in that third round. Yeah.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub16:19

       I wholeheartedly believe that.

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:20

       He might've stopped him.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub16:21

       Mm-hmm.
8. 18:17 – 24:38

   Fight Island rumors and dream matchmaking: Masvidal, Conor, GSP, Diaz

   1. JRJoe Rogan18:17

      There's some sort of a fight for, um-

   2. BSBrendan Schaub18:22

      ... Masvidal?

   3. JRJoe Rogan18:23

      For Masvidal?

   4. BSBrendan Schaub18:23

      I think it's Conor on Fight Island.

   5. JRJoe Rogan18:25

      Hmm.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub18:27

      That's what my, uh, fight brain's going towards.

   7. JRJoe Rogan18:30

      (sighs)

   8. BSBrendan Schaub18:30

      Because he said, "We have a bigger fight for Masvidal." 'Cause they said Kamaru vs Masvidal for the belt, right? That was the talk for everyone.

   9. JRJoe Rogan18:36

      A bigger fight-

   10. BSBrendan Schaub18:36

       And he goes, "We have a more exciting fight." I'm like-

   11. JRJoe Rogan18:37

       Bigger fight.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub18:38

       ... "Well, there, there's only two guys who'd be bigger, Conor-"

   13. JRJoe Rogan18:40

       GSP.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub18:41

       Nah, I, I, I'd love if GSP, but I don't think so.

   15. JRJoe Rogan18:44

       GSP. You know why? No belt.

   16. BSBrendan Schaub18:46

       No belt.

   17. JRJoe Rogan18:47

       They don't have to worry about GSP taking off.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub18:49

       Taking off?

   19. JRJoe Rogan18:50

       GSP fights Masvidal that'd be gigantic.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub18:53

       (laughs) The nice guy vs the bad boy.

   21. JRJoe Rogan18:54

       Gigantic.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub18:56

       Conor/Masvidal's the fight. But then I wasn't even thinking of GSP.

   23. JRJoe Rogan18:59

       How about GSP/conor?

   24. BSBrendan Schaub19:01

       Amazing fight.

   25. JRJoe Rogan19:02

       At 170.

   26. BSBrendan Schaub19:03

       Amazing. Well, I don't like Conor at 170 but-

   27. JRJoe Rogan19:06

       GSP/conor at 170.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub19:08

       Dude, ready for this? How about Masvidal/Nick Diaz?

   29. JRJoe Rogan19:11

       (gasps)

   30. BSBrendan Schaub19:12

       Robin-
9. 24:38 – 33:52

   Division depth and the case for new weight classes every 10 pounds

   1. JRJoe Rogan24:38

      ... 55, when you look at 55, 70, and 85, dude. (smacks lips) It is murderer's row from top to fucking bottom.

   2. BSBrendan Schaub24:45

      Top to bottom. Has Dos Anjos fought Leon? He hasn't, right?

   3. JRJoe Rogan24:50

      No.

   4. BSBrendan Schaub24:51

      That's a possibility. He has a-

   5. JRJoe Rogan24:53

      He has a lot of possibilities.

   6. BSBrendan Schaub24:54

      Chiesa just beat Dos Anjos.

   7. JRJoe Rogan24:56

      Yep.

   8. BSBrendan Schaub24:57

      Um, Gilbert beat D- I mean, it really seems like Leon and Stephen Thompson is the way to go. Wonderboy and Leon- Leon seems like it has to happen, right?

   9. JRJoe Rogan25:06

      Talk to your boy.

   10. BSBrendan Schaub25:07

       I mean, that's probably what they're gonna do on Fight Island-

   11. JRJoe Rogan25:09

       That makes sense.

   12. BSBrendan Schaub25:09

       ... if I had to guess.

   13. JRJoe Rogan25:10

       That'd be a great fight.

   14. BSBrendan Schaub25:11

       That's a great fight.

   15. JRJoe Rogan25:12

       (clears throat)

   16. BSBrendan Schaub25:13

       I like that a lot. Now, where's Robbie Lawler in the mix?

   17. JRJoe Rogan25:16

       Robbie's at 11.

   18. BSBrendan Schaub25:18

       It's interesting, right? 'Cause after Colby, Colby just kind of ran him over, didn't he?

   19. JRJoe Rogan25:23

       Yeah, he did.

   20. BSBrendan Schaub25:24

       Robbie versus Geoff Neal would be a crazy fight.

   21. JRJoe Rogan25:27

       That's a great fight too.

   22. BSBrendan Schaub25:28

       That's a great fight. That's a great coming out party for Geoff Neal. God, what a fucking-

   23. JRJoe Rogan25:33

       That's all they need-

   24. BSBrendan Schaub25:34

       ... division.

   25. JRJoe Rogan25:34

       ... is one big fight. Dude-

   26. BSBrendan Schaub25:35

       (sighs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan25:35

       How about your boy, Barboza, going down to 45? How the fuck does he do that? That guy's shredded.

   28. BSBrendan Schaub25:41

       Well, he can't be good. He can't be healthy.

   29. JRJoe Rogan25:43

       He's shredded at 55.

   30. BSBrendan Schaub25:44

       And if you think 45's easier than 55, I got another thing for you, brother.
10. 33:52 – 38:29

    Lockdown enforcement stories: mask culture, bike tickets, and media incentives

    1. JRJoe Rogan33:52

       The, and also, who knows what kind of fight camps these guys are getting? Right? Like this is anything-

    2. BSBrendan Schaub33:57

       Training partners would be the biggest thing.

    3. JRJoe Rogan33:58

       Mm-hmm.

    4. BSBrendan Schaub33:59

       The only one I'm not worried about is Tony Ferguson.

    5. JRJoe Rogan34:01

       Well, how-

    6. BSBrendan Schaub34:02

       He's a lone wolf.

    7. JRJoe Rogan34:03

       What are gyms, how are gyms dealing with this? What, what happens to a guy like Dominick Cruz? Is he allowed to go to the gym and train? Like how do, what do they do? Well, they-

    8. BSBrendan Schaub34:12

       If, if you're one of those big names, I guarantee those guys are getting keys to the gym and going in and doing their thing.

    9. JRJoe Rogan34:16

       But even if you get a key to the gym, are you allowed to do that? Like, this is one of the things that's been weird-

    10. BSBrendan Schaub34:20

        Who's gonna stop you?

    11. JRJoe Rogan34:21

        But this is one of the things that's been weird. They're giving people tickets for shit.

    12. BSBrendan Schaub34:25

        Dude, I got a ticket for riding my bike.

    13. JRJoe Rogan34:27

        What?

    14. BSBrendan Schaub34:27

        I didn't tell you this?

    15. JRJoe Rogan34:28

        No.

    16. BSBrendan Schaub34:29

        Yeah, I got a ticket and-

    17. JRJoe Rogan34:29

        Did we talk about this yesterday?

    18. JVJamie Vernon34:32

        Uh, I mean, I, (clears throat) I brought it up. I wasn't sure-

    19. JRJoe Rogan34:33

        He brought it up.

    20. JVJamie Vernon34:33

        ... if it was accurate or not.

    21. BSBrendan Schaub34:34

        What did Elon say?

    22. JVJamie Vernon34:35

        It wasn't, it wasn't-

    23. BSBrendan Schaub34:35

        "Can you get me out of it?"

    24. JRJoe Rogan34:36

        (laughs)

    25. BSBrendan Schaub34:36

        Oh, fuck.

    26. JVJamie Vernon34:38

        It wasn't an Elon podcast. (laughs)

    27. JRJoe Rogan34:39

        (laughs)

    28. BSBrendan Schaub34:39

        (laughs)

    29. JRJoe Rogan34:39

        Yeah.

    30. JVJamie Vernon34:39

        (laughs)
11. 38:29 – 1:02:05

    Murder hornets, extreme pain TV, and Schaub’s growing wildlife obsession

    1. BSBrendan Schaub38:29

       And then China said they're starting to get over COVID, release the fucking warrior hornets-

    2. JRJoe Rogan38:33

       (laughs)

    3. BSBrendan Schaub38:33

       ... where the fuck they are.

    4. JRJoe Rogan38:35

       (laughs) The murder hornets.

    5. BSBrendan Schaub38:36

       The murder hornets. That's what I thought this was-

    6. JRJoe Rogan38:39

       No.

    7. BSBrendan Schaub38:39

       ... when I walked in, dude.

    8. JRJoe Rogan38:40

       They're about that size, though. That's a tarantula hawk. I think those Asian hornets are actually bigger than that.

    9. BSBrendan Schaub38:46

       It make, it makes me feel sick.

    10. JRJoe Rogan38:47

        They're so big.

    11. BSBrendan Schaub38:48

        Well, if they're in Washington, I bet their fucking thick asses are gonna head to California. Everybody loves California. How many-

    12. JRJoe Rogan38:54

        How many of them did they find?

    13. BSBrendan Schaub38:56

        I don't know. A shit ton, right? Have you seen the... I was like, "How bad can they be?" And I look on the video, they're intercepting bees and ripping their fucking heads off, dude.

    14. JRJoe Rogan39:04

        Cutting their heads off. They snip their heads in half with their, their mandibles. Yeah. And they kill thousands of bees. Look at the size of these fucks.

    15. BSBrendan Schaub39:11

        Oh my God.

    16. JRJoe Rogan39:12

        And they show up on these... in, at these colonies, these bee colonies, they show up at the hives-

    17. BSBrendan Schaub39:17

        And do work.

    18. JRJoe Rogan39:17

        ... and just burn through the hives, just start chopping heads off. There's a horrendous video of these Asian hornets that show up at this beehive and just start chopping them in half. Have you seen that video where that Coyote Peterson guy lets one sting him?

    19. BSBrendan Schaub39:30

        And it-

    20. JRJoe Rogan39:31

        Oh, my God.

    21. BSBrendan Schaub39:32

        My favorite's the camera guy, watch this. The guy's like, "Oh, God, the... Oh, God." "All right, now tell us what you're feeling, man. We got... That's why we do it. You gotta tell people what you're feeling." He's like, "Fuck! All right." You can tell he's, like, super annoyed.

    22. JRJoe Rogan39:42

        Yeah.

    23. BSBrendan Schaub39:43

        It was the worst pain.

    24. JRJoe Rogan39:44

        It seemed pretty bad. Well, and then 20 minutes later, his arm had swelled up like someone shoved a shoe under his skin. It was, like, all popped up and puffy. He couldn't touch anywhere near it, he was in agony.

    25. BSBrendan Schaub39:54

        Dude, have you seen Kings... Is it Kings of Pain, Jamie?

    26. UDUnknown (friend/example being discussed)39:57

        I-

    27. BSBrendan Schaub39:57

        I think it's Kings... It's on-

    28. UDUnknown (friend/example being discussed)39:58

        I do not remember the name.

    29. BSBrendan Schaub39:58

        It's on, uh, I think it's on, uh, the History Channel. I think it's on History Channel, but it's these two dudes, one Australian dude, one regular American dude who's a Marine, and they're, they're like, "The, the pain scale hasn't been done since, like, the 1970s, so we're gonna go around, we give it a one through 30. We rate, rank them on the, rank them on these, you know, criterias." So, they go around all over the world. These fucking dudes, man, they (laughs) they collect... These wasps, they collect, uh, you know, the tarantula hawk, and then the, the finale, I'm like, "Well, what are they gonna do here?" They get a... they catch a giant boa constrictor in the forest and then they put a mask on so it can't bite their neck and kill them, and then they give the thing their arm. Dude, this fucking python destroys their arm.

    30. JRJoe Rogan40:44

        Was it a python or a boa constrictor?
12. 1:02:05 – 1:17:39

    Politics and reopening fallout: economic damage, suicides, and trust in institutions

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:02:05

       Oh. It's gonna be real weird over the next six months when you see the economy 'cause, you know, some... The way a friend of mine put it, he- he goes, "There's so many people that are out of work right now and they don't even know it yet 'cause their business is not gonna be able to survive."

    2. BSBrendan Schaub1:02:19

       (sighs)

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:02:19

       Whatever they're in, whatever they do in small businesses, they think it, uh, at the high end, and we might lose as many as 40% of all small businesses.

    4. BSBrendan Schaub1:02:26

       That's insa- and for-

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:02:27

       It's insane.

    6. BSBrendan Schaub1:02:27

       ... and for what?

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:02:28

       For what?

    8. BSBrendan Schaub1:02:29

       When we look back on it, for what, man?

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:02:31

       Well, I wonder, I wonder-

    10. BSBrendan Schaub1:02:32

        It's gonna be a huge mistake.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:02:34

        ... overall what the death rate's gonna be when it comes to suicide, depression.

    12. BSBrendan Schaub1:02:39

        Uh, starve, hunger.

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:02:40

        Yes.

    14. BSBrendan Schaub1:02:40

        One in five kids are starving. One in five right now, I just read.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:02:44

        Where?

    16. BSBrendan Schaub1:02:44

        In America.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:02:46

        One in five are starving?

    18. BSBrendan Schaub1:02:47

        One in five. Look that shit up, Jamie. One in five during the... When- when there's a depression, one in five.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:02:53

        (sighs) Jesus Christ.

    20. BSBrendan Schaub1:02:55

        Domestic violence is up. Suicide will be up.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:02:58

        Swardson told me he was talking to the sheriff, and the sheriff said they usually deal with about one suicide a week, and now they're dealing with five a day.

    22. BSBrendan Schaub1:03:05

        No- no one's telling you this... Yeah, but let's keep the old, uh, healthy, man. Let's- let's- let's stay quarantined. It's like, you have no idea the rema-

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:03:11

        (coughs)

    24. BSBrendan Schaub1:03:11

        -fications. This is awful, man.

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:03:13

        I wonder how- how this is gonna affect the governor politically.

    26. BSBrendan Schaub1:03:18

        Newsom?

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:03:18

        I really won- yeah, I wun- really wonder.

    28. BSBrendan Schaub1:03:20

        Oh, uh, everybody wants to piss down his throat, even Democrats.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:03:23

        Are- are... Really?

    30. BSBrendan Schaub1:03:24

        Yeah.

Episode duration: 2:49:05