Swapcast - Podcast On A Plane with John Dudley (Audio Only)

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   And we're rolling. (glass clinks)…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      And we're rolling. (glass clinks) Cheers.

   2. JDJohn Dudley0:03

      Cheers.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:04

      That's, that's only part of a Cat Lady. I mean-

   4. JDJohn Dudley0:07

      (sighs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      ... obviously.

   6. JDJohn Dudley0:08

      Yeah, that's just the one... Well, it's the critical part.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      It is. It is.

   8. JDJohn Dudley0:13

      Without... Without the red wine, the Cat Lady is not that ridiculous.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      (laughs)

   10. JDJohn Dudley0:16

       Right? It's just red wine-

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:17

       Yeah.

   12. JDJohn Dudley0:17

       It's like tequila and Red Bull.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:19

       Yep.

   14. JDJohn Dudley0:19

       That's normal.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:20

       Yeah.

   16. JDJohn Dudley0:20

       I mean, that's like Red Bull and vodka. It's not too crazy.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       Yeah.

   18. JDJohn Dudley0:23

       You pour the red wine in there and you're like, "What are you doing?" (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       Now you're just desperate. (laughs) Now you're just, like, everyone shows up to a party with what they found in their parents' refrigerator-

   20. JDJohn Dudley0:33

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       ... and then the Cat Lady appears.

   22. JDJohn Dudley0:35

       Have you ever made one of those since then?

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       Yeah, a lot.

   24. JDJohn Dudley0:39

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       I tur- (laughs) I turn people onto it all the time.

   26. JDJohn Dudley0:44

       That day was so ridiculous.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       I've gone into bars where people recognize me and then they... The waitress comes over and says, "The bartender would like to give you this Cat Lady." And I'm like-

   28. JDJohn Dudley0:55

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       ... "What?" (laughs) Yeah.

   30. JDJohn Dudley0:57

       For people who don't know what we're talking about, the Cat Lady was a drink that John invented two years ago in Lanai. Two years ago?
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Well definitely the one…

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      feel like that with, with the four fletch setups we have, I feel like the arrows are quieter than what we've shot in the past, personally.

   2. JDJohn Dudley15:07

      Well definitely the one I shot last year, because last year here I was trying to use a fixed blade and it was a fixed blade with some holes in it.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:14

      Yeah.

   4. JDJohn Dudley15:15

      And it was like a whistle of death. (laughs) It was (whistles)

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:18

      Well, on some of those longer shots, the, the deer would turn, but you could see them look up-

   6. JDJohn Dudley15:23

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:23

      ... like on the footage.

   8. JDJohn Dudley15:25

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:25

      These, they didn't do that.

   10. JDJohn Dudley15:26

       Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:26

       They just looked our way. They never looked up to like that sound that they could hear coming in.

   12. JDJohn Dudley15:32

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:32

       So that's why I think the, the projectile was good. But these things are just, they're keyed in. And we talked to, uh, our buddies, uh, Sloan from Yeti and Cole Kramer were over on the main island hunting Axis too.

   14. JDJohn Dudley15:46

       They're on Maui.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:47

       Oh yeah, they're on Maui hunting Axis, and I asked them how they were doing and they're like, "Dude, shot a few does, missed a few, lost a few. These things are just crazy how fast they react and move." And you say it's just, you think it's from tigers.

   16. JDJohn Dudley16:06

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       You think it's-

   18. JDJohn Dudley16:07

       They evolved to get away from tigers.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:09

       It's probably what it is.

   20. JDJohn Dudley16:10

       Yeah, they're, they're from India. They were given to King Kamehameha I think in the 1800s but th- they're just an insanely fast animal. They're so much faster. You think of mule deer as being fast, like mule deer are drunk and on pills compared to these things.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:24

       (laughs) Yeah.

   22. JDJohn Dudley16:25

       (laughs) Really, they're like, they're so slow. I mean-

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:28

       I think these are, these are as fast as a highly pressured south Texas whitetail that's coming to a feeder-

   24. JDJohn Dudley16:36

       Mm-hmm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:36

       ... that's kind of like-

   26. JDJohn Dudley16:37

       Jumpy.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:38

       ... twitching-

   28. JDJohn Dudley16:39

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:39

       ... the whole time it's there and you kind of have to aim... I got to the point where when I was out with Cam, Cam asked me where I aimed. I said, "Dude, my pin was sitting in the corner pocket of the leg and the body." Like I literally, every time I drew back, I put my, the pin I wanted on the back of its front leg, I s- followed that back leg up until it touched the bottom of the body and I was pulling right there.

   30. JDJohn Dudley17:10

       Mm-hmm.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   On the planet. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      the best you could-

   2. JDJohn Dudley30:01

      On the planet.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      ... on the planet.

   4. JDJohn Dudley30:02

      And it's 20 bucks.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      (laughs)

   6. JDJohn Dudley30:04

      20 bucks and you might see Dave Chappelle, Joey Diaz, Ari Shaffir, Tom Segura, Bert Kreischer, me. I mean, you- you see Chris D'Elia.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:14

      Diaz.

   8. JDJohn Dudley30:14

      You see, uh, Tony Hinchcliffe.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:16

      Ian was there.

   10. JDJohn Dudley30:17

       Ian Edwards.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:18

       Yes (laughs) .

   12. JDJohn Dudley30:19

       Uh, Owen Smith. It's just over and over and over, it's like the lineup is insane, guys you've never heard of that are murderers.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:25

       Y- yeah. Yeah.

   14. JDJohn Dudley30:26

       You know? I mean, it's, uh, it's a beautiful place. It's one of the main things that keeps me in LA.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:31

       Yeah, for sure.

   16. JDJohn Dudley30:32

       That and the podcast.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:33

       You have a good routine.

   18. JDJohn Dudley30:35

       Yeah, man, I was ready to go. I was ready to get the hell out of California a long time ago.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:40

       (laughs)

   20. JDJohn Dudley30:40

       It's like they sucked me in.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:42

       Well, what's cool about our relationship too is... There comes this point about November where you fully switch gears to comedy, and I fully switch gears to product development coming out, really working on my shooting, and I go in this- I kinda go reclusive as a friend. There's been- I think at Chri- at Christmas time, didn't I text you at Christmas and I said-

   22. JDJohn Dudley31:10

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:11

       ... "S- you know, sorry for being a bad friend."

   24. JDJohn Dudley31:13

       You weren't a bad friend.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       (laughs)

   26. JDJohn Dudley31:13

       We're both doing the same thing. We're both wrapped up, you know?

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:15

       Yeah, I'm like, you know- I just said, "I know you're doing the same," but, like, that's from I think as soon as elk season ends.

   28. JDJohn Dudley31:24

       Mm-hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:24

       You go-

   30. JDJohn Dudley31:25

       Yeah.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      ride their past to, you know, to try to, you know, build something. Whereas Andy's almost, you almost have to drag it out of him.

   2. JDJohn Dudley45:10

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:11

      You know, you almost have to say like, "No, dude. You've done some really cool shit. We need to talk about this."

   4. JDJohn Dudley45:17

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:17

      And he's trying to say, "Well, there's more to me than that."

   6. JDJohn Dudley45:20

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:20

      "You know, there's more to me than that." But I think once people really see that honesty come forward, that's what people are grasping for. They're like, "I really want, I really like that person that I'm seeing. That's what I want more of."

   8. JDJohn Dudley45:33

      Yeah, you're not produced, you know? When someone watches a, a, a knock-on, uh-

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:36

      Yeah, that's a good way to put- yeah.

   10. JDJohn Dudley45:36

       ... when you're doing a live stream or whether you're doing a podcast, you're not produced. And that's the same with me. I don't have anyone telling me to do it. I've been in that situation where I had someone telling me to do, and it- telling me what to do or what to say. And it's, it's just, it's not as effective.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:52

       Yeah.

   12. JDJohn Dudley45:52

       It's just not as, it's not as genuine. It doesn't come across that way.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:56

       Yup. I saw today, it's f- it's weird how your phone, your phone's a spy. I got, today I got ads pulled up in my Instagram about travel coolers, dude.

   14. JDJohn Dudley46:10

       Whoa, 'cause we were talking about coolers?

   15. JRJoe Rogan46:12

       Yeah, last night at dinner.

   16. JDJohn Dudley46:13

       Wow.

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:14

       How we were gonna get our meat home. Isn't that-

   18. JDJohn Dudley46:16

       That's crazy.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:16

       ... isn't it?

   20. JDJohn Dudley46:17

       That's so weird.

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:18

       It's crazy, crazy.

   22. JDJohn Dudley46:19

       So it's listening to us?

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:20

       It's listening for sure. Yeah, it's-

   24. JDJohn Dudley46:23

       But who's, who can tell us what's happening? I wanna know. Like, what is your ph- I need to get someone on that tells me what the hell your phone is listening to, 'cause that does happen to people all the time, where all of a sudden their, their Google feed, their newsfeed-

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:37

       If-

   26. JDJohn Dudley46:37

       ... has ads in it.

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:38

       ... if that happens, we get really high before they come on just so you can-

   28. JDJohn Dudley46:42

       Hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:42

       ... really s- dude, where so you can really trip out.

   30. JDJohn Dudley46:44

       Yeah, yeah.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:15:00

   I knew you better.…

   1. JDJohn Dudley1:00:00

      like, a fairly easy rack. But sometimes I like to play four balls ahead. Like if- if there's a cluster that I know I have to break it out, I can't- I can't fuck around. I have to make sure that I'm on the, uh, the high side of this ball because when I collide, when I make the shot, I have to hit that second ball or I will h- or I won- I won't be able to get out. I'm trying to get out. I'm not trying to just... When I, when I watch someone play, like, 'cause e- everybody likes to say they know how to play pool, which is hilarious. People come to my podcast studio, they're like, "Oh, you play pool? Let's play some pool." Okay, let's play some pool.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:31

      I knew you better. I knew you well enough to just say, "I don't know shit about pool."

   3. JDJohn Dudley1:00:35

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

      When you're like, "Do you play pool?" I'm like, "Nope. How do I hold this thing?"

   5. JDJohn Dudley1:00:38

      (laughs) But I always... I watch how they make a ball. If they just try to make a ball, I was like, "Oh, okay, you can't play pool."

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:46

      (laughs)

   7. JDJohn Dudley1:00:46

      "You might be able to pocket some balls, but I'm gonna fuck you up in the long run."

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

      (laughs)

   9. JDJohn Dudley1:00:50

      (laughs) You might be able to make all the shots and run out and I'll say, "Congratulations. That was a disaster."

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:55

       (laughs) Yeah.

   11. JDJohn Dudley1:00:56

       "You got out, but that was terrible."

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

       I did that twice.

   13. JDJohn Dudley1:00:58

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:59

       It can happen. (laughs) Yeah. It's actually the perfect... This is the perfect time to talk about when people try to argue with me why... When they say, "What I'm doing's worked and it's always worked," and they're like, "We know you teach that way." The way that I teach-... I would say 80% of the people, it maximizes them, uh, to the best of their ability. Are there a fraction of people that are, like, the exemptions to the rule? Yeah. And you can probably go and win a tournament. You could probably, at some point in your career, if you go to enough major events, you'll win one doing it your way. But I- I'm certain that what I'm teaching will get the mass majority of people more production over a long run.

   15. JDJohn Dudley1:01:58

       They'll be more effective.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:01:59

       Right?

   17. JDJohn Dudley1:01:59

       It's the right way to do it.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:02:00

       Is that-

   19. JDJohn Dudley1:02:00

       It's the right way to do it.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:02:00

       I mean, is it the same?

   21. JDJohn Dudley1:02:01

       Yes.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:02:01

       It's like, I beat you two games of pool, but to me, that's like, you know, if you freaking throw three things out of the window, you know, one every 100 times is gonna land where you think it might land, but it's just cha- it's chance.

   23. JDJohn Dudley1:02:18

       Well, we're playing on a eight-by-four, which is a smaller table and it has buckets for holes. It's like-

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:02:23

       I like those buckets.

   25. JDJohn Dudley1:02:25

       All those things factor in. And, you know, the table that I have in my studio is-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:02:30

       Sucks.

   27. JDJohn Dudley1:02:31

       ... is brutal, man. (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:02:32

       (laughs)

   29. JDJohn Dudley1:02:32

       That's a brutal table. That's like one of those metal targets that has the softball-sized hole.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:02:36

       That's exactly what it is.
6. 1:15:00 – 1:16:41

   What did you tell…

   1. JDJohn Dudley1:15:00

      the grocery store. I got the ingredients based on that, and I- I- I- I cooked it on- on the Traeger with my phone.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:15:07

      What did you tell me you cooked at ... I think you said you cooked something only at 225 just so you could use a SuperSmoke.

   3. JDJohn Dudley1:15:15

      Well, I've been doing that a lot with roasts.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:15:17

      Oh, really?

   5. JDJohn Dudley1:15:18

      Yeah. I've been doing that a lot. I really like that SuperSmoke, man. It just- it does something to the, the f- I love that smoky flavor that you get. I think it's one of the best things about pellet grills. And I think th- I- I've had a lot of pellet grills, you know. Uh, the Traeger's the best. It's the best. It's the best at maintaining temperature. It gets to temperature better. It's the easiest to- to work. It does-

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:15:41

      So stable too.

   7. JDJohn Dudley1:15:42

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:15:42

      You can-

   9. JDJohn Dudley1:15:42

      I've had some complicated ones where they- it cooked good, but it was like you had to, like, read the manual to figure out how to do things, and Traeger's a straightforward ... But the- but pellet grills without a doubt are my favorite way to cook food because you're just getting fire and wood. There's no nonsense.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:16:00

       Yeah.

   11. JDJohn Dudley1:16:00

       There's no charcoal, lighter fluid. There's no briquettes. It's just wood and f- and fire. That's it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:16:07

       It's a pellet that's repetitive.

   13. JDJohn Dudley1:16:09

       Yeah, and then what they figured out, uh, how to do, first of all, it's so efficient. The Traeger uses so little pellets. Like, I- I- I fill that hopper once, I go five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 cooks-

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:16:23

       Yeah.

   15. JDJohn Dudley1:16:23

       ... with just ... I mean, it's a foot h- a foot deep of pellets.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:16:27

       Yeah.

   17. JDJohn Dudley1:16:27

       And it takes forever to run- run through that.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:16:30

       We were eating those ribeyes that night, and we're like, "Dude."

   19. JDJohn Dudley1:16:33

       That's as good as you're ever gonna get.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:16:34

       There's no, like, I haven't gone anywhere where I would say, "I need to know how this guy's doing this-"

   21. JDJohn Dudley1:16:39

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:16:39

       "... because it's better than what I'm making at home."

Episode duration: 1:25:41