Lenny's PodcastJen Abel: Why founders should target tier-one logos earlier
Through $75K to $150K ACVs and vision casting over problem-based selling; Abel argues the mid-market is a trap and design partners are for learning.
Jen AbelguestLenny Rachitskyhost
CHAPTERS
- 0:00 – 4:38
Welcome back, Jen!
- 4:38 – 8:08
The myth of the mid-market
- 8:08 – 10:50
Targeting tier-one logos
- 10:50 – 15:35
Vision-casting vs. problem-selling
- 15:35 – 20:45
The importance of high ACVs
- 20:45 – 25:09
Don’t play the small business game with an enterprise company
- 25:09 – 28:11
Design partners: the double-edged sword
- 28:11 – 36:55
Finding the right company
- 36:55 – 43:21
Enterprise sales: the art of the deal
- 43:21 – 44:41
The problem with channel partnerships
- 44:41 – 50:24
Quick summary
- 50:24 – 56:49
Hiring the right enterprise salespeople
- 56:49 – 1:01:01
Structuring sales compensation
- 1:01:01 – 1:02:07
Building relationships in enterprise sales
- 1:02:07 – 1:07:31
The art of cold outreach
- 1:07:31 – 1:14:08
Outbound tooling and AI
- 1:14:08 – 1:21:35
Lightning round and final thoughts
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