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A step-by-step guide to crafting a sales pitch that wins | April Dunford (author of Sales Pitch)

April Dunford is a speaker, mentor, podcaster, best-selling author, and beloved returning guest to the show. Last year, she joined me on the pod to discuss product positioning and differentiated value. Today, April offers invaluable insights from her latest book, Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win. We go deep on the art of effective pitching and selling, and April shares the specific framework she’s used to successfully pitch products at companies like Google, IBM, Postman, and Epic Games. Together we discuss: • Tactical advice on pitch creation and testing • Real-life examples of companies transforming their narratives into successful sales strategies • How to combat customer inaction • How to become your prospect’s guide in their buying journey • The importance of differentiated value • Marketing’s role in the process • Why you should avoid FOMO as a sales strategy • Tips for handling objections — Brought to you by Composer—the AI-powered trading platform: https://www.composer.trade/?utm_source=lenny&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=10-22-23 | Eppo—Run reliable, impactful experiments: https://www.geteppo.com/ | LinkedIn Ads—Reach professionals and drive results for your business: https://www.linkedin.com/podlenny — Find the transcript and references at: ⁠https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/a-step-by-step-guide-to-crafting — Where to find April Dunford: • Website: https://www.aprildunford.com/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/ • Newsletter: https://aprildunford.substack.com/ — Where to find Lenny: • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/ — In this episode, we cover: (00:00) April’s background (03:46) Fixing poor positioning with storytelling at Help Scout (12:22) Pitch components: setup and differentiated value (14:13) Wrapping up the sales pitch (15:56) Handling objections effectively (19:13) Understanding buyer’s mindset and market perception (25:46) Avoiding FOMO as a sales strategy (29:28) Lenny’s stressful experience buying community forum software for Airbnb (31:04) Empowering champions within client businesses (34:36) Who this framework is useful for (36:38) Advice on working cross-functionally (38:59) Differentiated value defined with examples (44:16) Selling with calm confidence (46:19) Qualifying leads (48:31) April’s thoughts on category creation (53:05) Geoffrey Moore’s “bowling pin strategy” (55:21) Conclusion of the setup phase: sharing the perfect world (57:11) The follow-through: differentiated value with proof and objection refutation (1:00:21) Why sales pitches fail (1:01:30) Best practices for pitch testing (1:05:32) General timeline for positioning and pitch creation (1:06:50) Marketing’s role in the process (1:08:38) The impact of developing a killer sales pitch (1:10:39) Andy Raskin’s positioning framework (1:15:50) Lightning round — Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com. — Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed.

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Oct 21, 20231h 30mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

April Dunford reveals a simple, powerful framework for winning sales pitches

  1. April Dunford explains why 40–60% of B2B buying processes end in no decision, arguing that buyers are more paralyzed by fear and confusion than loyalty to the status quo. She introduces a structured, story-driven sales pitch that starts with market insight and alternatives, then moves to your differentiated value, proof, objections, and a clear ask. Central to her approach is teaching buyers how to buy: giving them a clear mental model of the market, trade-offs, and what a “perfect” solution looks like for them. She emphasizes that tightening positioning and overhauling the pitch can quickly and dramatically increase conversion from first meeting to qualified opportunity.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Most lost deals die from buyer indecision, not better competitors.

40–60% of B2B purchase processes end in no decision because buyers can’t confidently choose and fear making a career-risky mistake, so they default to delaying rather than switching.

Your pitch should start by teaching the market, not demoing features.

Instead of jumping into a product walkthrough, begin with your insight about the market, the main alternative approaches (and their pros/cons), and then align on what a ‘perfect world’ solution would look like.

Anchor everything in differentiated value: why pick you over alternatives.

Work backward from competitors and your unique capabilities to the specific value only you can deliver; structure the demo as ‘here’s the key value, now let me show you how we do it,’ not ‘here’s every feature.’

Explicitly help buyers ‘learn how to buy’ your category.

Buyers often have never purchased software like yours before; give them a simple map of market options, what matters for companies like them, and clear purchase criteria so they feel safer making a call.

Arm your internal champion to navigate the buying committee.

Most B2B deals involve 5–7 stakeholders; your job is to equip the champion with materials, answers, ROI, security details, and rollout plans to preemptively handle IT, finance, and leadership objections.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Most of the folks in B2B software, most of the time, your buyer has never purchased software like yours before.

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40 to 60% of B2B purchase processes end in no decision… not because the status quo is better, but because they couldn’t figure out how to make a choice confidently.

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The core of a good sales pitch is really deeply understanding your differentiated value—what is the value I can deliver that no other solution can?

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We should be teaching customers how to buy. We eat, sleep, and breathe this market—they don’t.

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If all of this was easy, we’d be on a beach drinking out of a coconut.

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Why B2B purchase processes stall and end in no decisionCore structure of a winning B2B sales pitch (setup and follow-through)Differentiated value and how it connects to positioningHelping anxious buyers “learn how to buy” and reduce riskHandling objections and arming the internal championRole of product, marketing, and sales in crafting the pitchCategory creation, trends-based narratives, and alternative pitching frameworks

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