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A step-by-step guide to crafting a sales pitch that wins | April Dunford (author of Sales Pitch)

April Dunford is a speaker, mentor, podcaster, best-selling author, and beloved returning guest to the show. Last year, she joined me on the pod to discuss product positioning and differentiated value. Today, April offers invaluable insights from her latest book, Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win. We go deep on the art of effective pitching and selling, and April shares the specific framework she’s used to successfully pitch products at companies like Google, IBM, Postman, and Epic Games. Together we discuss: • Tactical advice on pitch creation and testing • Real-life examples of companies transforming their narratives into successful sales strategies • How to combat customer inaction • How to become your prospect’s guide in their buying journey • The importance of differentiated value • Marketing’s role in the process • Why you should avoid FOMO as a sales strategy • Tips for handling objections — Brought to you by Composer—the AI-powered trading platform: https://www.composer.trade/?utm_source=lenny&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=10-22-23 | Eppo—Run reliable, impactful experiments: https://www.geteppo.com/ | LinkedIn Ads—Reach professionals and drive results for your business: https://www.linkedin.com/podlenny — Find the transcript and references at: ⁠https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/a-step-by-step-guide-to-crafting — Where to find April Dunford: • Website: https://www.aprildunford.com/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/ • Newsletter: https://aprildunford.substack.com/ — Where to find Lenny: • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/ — In this episode, we cover: (00:00) April’s background (03:46) Fixing poor positioning with storytelling at Help Scout (12:22) Pitch components: setup and differentiated value (14:13) Wrapping up the sales pitch (15:56) Handling objections effectively (19:13) Understanding buyer’s mindset and market perception (25:46) Avoiding FOMO as a sales strategy (29:28) Lenny’s stressful experience buying community forum software for Airbnb (31:04) Empowering champions within client businesses (34:36) Who this framework is useful for (36:38) Advice on working cross-functionally (38:59) Differentiated value defined with examples (44:16) Selling with calm confidence (46:19) Qualifying leads (48:31) April’s thoughts on category creation (53:05) Geoffrey Moore’s “bowling pin strategy” (55:21) Conclusion of the setup phase: sharing the perfect world (57:11) The follow-through: differentiated value with proof and objection refutation (1:00:21) Why sales pitches fail (1:01:30) Best practices for pitch testing (1:05:32) General timeline for positioning and pitch creation (1:06:50) Marketing’s role in the process (1:08:38) The impact of developing a killer sales pitch (1:10:39) Andy Raskin’s positioning framework (1:15:50) Lightning round — Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com. — Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed.

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Oct 22, 20231h 30mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 3:46

    April’s background

  2. 3:46 – 12:22

    Fixing poor positioning with storytelling at Help Scout

  3. 12:22 – 14:13

    Pitch components: setup and differentiated value

  4. 14:13 – 15:56

    Wrapping up the sales pitch

  5. 15:56 – 19:13

    Handling objections effectively

  6. 19:13 – 25:46

    Understanding buyer’s mindset and market perception

  7. 25:46 – 29:28

    Avoiding FOMO as a sales strategy

  8. 29:28 – 31:04

    Lenny’s stressful experience buying community forum software for Airbnb

  9. 31:04 – 34:36

    Empowering champions within client businesses

  10. 34:36 – 36:38

    Who this framework is useful for

  11. 36:38 – 38:59

    Advice on working cross-functionally

  12. 38:59 – 44:16

    Differentiated value defined with examples

  13. 44:16 – 46:19

    Selling with calm confidence

  14. 46:19 – 48:31

    Qualifying leads

  15. 48:31 – 53:05

    April’s thoughts on category creation

  16. 53:05 – 55:21

    Geoffrey Moore’s “bowling pin strategy”

  17. 55:21 – 57:11

    Conclusion of the setup phase: sharing the perfect world

  18. 57:11 – 1:00:21

    The follow-through: differentiated value with proof and objection refutation

  19. 1:00:21 – 1:01:30

    Why sales pitches fail

  20. 1:01:30 – 1:05:32

    Best practices for pitch testing

  21. 1:05:32 – 1:06:50

    General timeline for positioning and pitch creation

  22. 1:06:50 – 1:08:38

    Marketing’s role in the process

  23. 1:08:38 – 1:10:39

    The impact of developing a killer sales pitch

  24. 1:10:39 – 1:15:50

    Andy Raskin’s positioning framework

  25. 1:15:50 – 1:30:52

    Lightning round

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