Lenny's PodcastMelissa Perri: Why SAFe quietly fails real product teams
Through scaled agile frameworks built for developers, SAFe drifts; product owners ripping it up grow into product managers focused on real customer impact.
Lenny RachitskyhostMelissa PerriguestKristina (OneSchema)guest
CHAPTERS
- 0:00 – 2:12
Melissa’s background
- 2:12 – 6:37
The rise of the product owner role
- 6:37 – 8:27
Understanding Agile and Scrum
- 8:27 – 10:41
Challenges in Agile transformations
- 10:41 – 13:58
The history of the product owner role
- 13:58 – 15:43
The Scrum Guide
- 15:43 – 21:01
Product owner responsibilities
- 21:01 – 26:21
Adopting Scrum in organizations
- 26:21 – 35:20
The origins and implementation of SAFe
- 35:20 – 40:33
Why Melissa doesn’t recommend SAFe
- 40:33 – 49:12
Advice for implementing a digital transformation
- 49:12 – 51:27
An example of SAFe adoption
- 51:27 – 56:53
The value of experienced product leaders
- 56:53 – 1:04:14
Career paths for product owners
- 1:04:14 – 1:06:41
Transitioning from product owner to product manager
- 1:06:41 – 1:11:43
Be careful relying on certifications
- 1:11:43 – 1:16:55
Evaluating existing product owners
- 1:16:55 – 1:24:19
Final thoughts on Agile and product management
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