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Inside Etsy’s product, growth, and marketplace evolution | Tim Holley (VP of Product)

Tim Holley is VP of Product at Etsy where he leads the Etsy buyer experience. With a tenure spanning more than a decade, Tim has seen the company through many transitions (both in culture, in leadership, and in growth), and his team’s product changes have had a significant impact on buyer retention, conversion, and global expansion. In this episode, we discuss: • Lessons from navigating corporate culture shifts • How Etsy capitalized on the explosive growth of e-commerce during the pandemic • Marketplace learnings: when to focus on supply vs. demand, optimizing conversion, and more • How Etsy solves the “graduation problem” • Tips for hiring product managers — Brought to you by Productroadmap.ai—AI to connect your roadmaps to revenue: https://productroadmap.ai | Eppo—Run reliable, impactful experiments: https://www.geteppo.com/ | OneSchema—Import CSV data 10x faster: https://oneschema.co/lenny Find the full transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/inside-etsys-product-growth-and-marketplace Where to find Tim Holley: • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timholley/ Where to find Lenny: • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com • Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/lennysan • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/ In this episode, we cover: (00:00) Tim’s background (04:23) Tim’s time away at SoulCycle and what led him back to Etsy (06:34) Lessons from the 2017 culture shift at Etsy (12:15) Etsy’s guiding principles (13:32) How Etsy adapted to increased demand during the early days of mask mandates (16:38) What Tim learned about managing stress with his team during the pandemic (18:46) Lessons from building a thriving marketplace (21:47) Prioritization at Etsy (24:37) Supply constraint vs. demand constraint (28:43) Conversion wins (33:27) Experimentation at Etsy (37:58) Acquisition and top-of-funnel tactics (39:44) The seller referral program (40:33) Etsy’s habit loop framework (44:11) How they set themselves apart from other marketplaces (51:23) Retaining sellers (53:23) The defunct Etsy studio (55:18) Running the product team (57:20) Who the decision maker is (1:01:20) What Tim looks for when hiring PMs (1:03:03) A reflection exercise Tim does with his teams (1:05:08) Lightning round Referenced: • Etsy: https://www.etsy.com/ • SoulCycle: https://www.soul-cycle.com/ • Inside the Revolution at Etsy: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/25/business/etsy-josh-silverman.html • Ronny Kohavi on Lenny’s Podcast: https://www.lennyspodcast.com/the-ultimate-guide-to-ab-testing-ronny-kohavi-airbnb-microsoft-amazon/ • How to Kickstart and Scale a Marketplace Business – Part 3: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-to-kickstart-and-scale-a-marketplace-911 • Team of Teams: New Rules of Engagement for a Complex World: https://www.amazon.com/Team-Teams-Rules-Engagement-Complex/dp/1591847486 • Let My People Go Surfing: The Education of a Reluctant Businessman: https://www.amazon.com/Let-People-Surfing-Education-Businessman-Including/dp/0143109677 • The Power Broker: Robert Moses and the Fall of New York: https://www.amazon.com/Power-Broker-Robert-Moses-Fall/dp/0394720245 • Yellowstone on Paramount+: https://www.paramountnetwork.com/shows/yellowstone • Nara Baby app: https://naraorganics.com/nara-baby-tracker • Huckleberry app: https://huckleberrycare.com/ Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com. Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed.

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Sep 2, 20231h 11mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

How Etsy Scaled Its Marketplace, Culture, And COVID Surge Responsibly

  1. Etsy VP of Product Tim Holley walks through Etsy’s evolution from a consensus-driven, mission-first startup into a fast-moving, data-driven marketplace with a clear North Star metric: gross merchandise sales (GMS).
  2. He explains how Etsy navigated key inflection points, including a major cultural reset under CEO Josh Silverman and the explosive COVID face-mask boom, while keeping its core mission of empowering independent sellers intact.
  3. The conversation covers marketplace dynamics (supply vs. demand, conversion, acquisition, retention), experimentation philosophy, and how Etsy balances buyer-centric growth with seller needs and brand integrity.
  4. Tim also shares how Etsy organizes cross-functional teams, what he looks for in PM hires, and specific product tactics—from behavioral nudges to copy changes—that meaningfully moved the business.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Anchor the company around a single clear North Star metric.

Etsy’s shift to treating GMS as the central KPI—and using it as the ‘drumbeat’ in every discussion—simplified prioritization, aligned teams across functions, and accelerated decision-making compared to its earlier consensus-heavy culture.

Balance strong mission and culture with speed and accountability.

Etsy moved from slow, consensus-based decisions to a model where PMs are accountable for choices, while still deeply incorporating cross-functional input and narrative clarity from leadership to avoid cultural whiplash.

In marketplaces, long-term success often requires shifting focus from supply-first to buyer outcomes.

Etsy initially obsessed over understanding and serving sellers, but later realized that its core job is to bring qualified buyers, drive sales for sellers, and build a world-class buyer experience that keeps them coming back.

Use behavioral nudges and rich social proof to reduce buyer uncertainty, especially with unique inventory.

Because every Etsy item is unique and often from unknown sellers, tactics like buyer review photos, scarcity messages (“only one left”), and clear microcopy materially improved conversion by increasing trust and decision confidence.

Crisis moments can expose your strengths if you move fast and stay close to customers.

During COVID, Etsy reacted overnight to face mask demand, directly rallied sellers, called top shops to ensure they could fulfill, and then deliberately shifted the narrative beyond masks—turning a spike into a retention opportunity.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

We went to sleep with typical April sales and woke up to Black Friday overnight.

Tim Holley

The reality is it’s a business and we needed to get faster at launching features, improving experience, and ultimately having a predictable way to drive GMS.

Tim Holley

The job of a marketplace is that sellers go there to make sales. If they’re not making sales, they probably won’t go to that marketplace.

Tim Holley

Brand-wise, ‘keep commerce human’ feels really simple, but it has lineage all the way back to valuing the unique and the handmade.

Tim Holley

You don’t have to have the best ideas, but you have to choose the best ideas.

Tim Holley (quoting Etsy’s CPO Nick)

Etsy’s cultural transformation under new leadership and adoption of GMS as a North Star metricManaging marketplace dynamics: supply vs. demand, seller-first origins, and buyer-centric evolutionCOVID-19 inflection point and Etsy’s rapid response to face mask demandConversion, acquisition, and retention tactics for a large two-sided marketplaceExperimentation philosophy, measurement challenges, and when not to A/B testBrand, policy, and supply integrity (IP enforcement, production assistance, graduation risk)Product organization design, cross-functional collaboration, and PM hiring criteria

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