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Lessons from Airtable’s unconventional growth strategy | Zoelle Egner

Zoelle Egner is best known for her time at Airtable (currently valued at $11 billion), where she was the 11th employee and built and led the initial marketing and customer success teams. Currently she’s the Head of Marketing and Growth at Block Party, a company that designs consumer tools for online safety and anti-harassment. In today’s episode, we explore the marketing strategies that helped Airtable punch above its weight and build an established brand. We also dig into how Airtable was able to find its first super-users, how customer success played a key role in getting early traction, and the do’s and don’ts for marketing investments. Zoelle also shares her experience working for VaccinateCA (which ended up playing a massive role in helping get people vaccinated during the pandemic) and several tips for obtaining valuable customer feedback. — Brought to you by OneSchema—import CSV data 10x faster: https://oneschema.co/lenny; Pando—always-on employee progression: https://www.pando.com/lenny; and Lenny’s Job Board—hire the best product people, find the best product gigs: https://www.lennysjobs.com/talent. Find the full transcript here: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/lessons-from-airtables-unconventional Where to find Zoelle Egner: • Twitter: https://twitter.com/zoelle • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zoelleegner/ Where to find Lenny: • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com • Twitter: https://twitter.com/lennysan • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/ Referenced: • Patrick McKenzie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/patio11 • The Last of Us on HBO: https://www.hbo.com/the-last-of-us • Airtable: https://www.airtable.com/ • Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/ • Block Party app: https://www.blockpartyapp.com/ • Kathy Sierra’s book Badass: Making Users Awesome: https://www.amazon.com/Badass-Making-Awesome-Kathy-Sierra/dp/1491919019 • Gainsight: https://www.gainsight.com/ • Datadog: https://www.datadoghq.com/ • Notion: https://www.notion.so/ • Zapier: https://zapier.com/ • Computing Taste: Algorithms and the Makers of Music Recommendation: https://www.amazon.com/Computing-Taste-Algorithms-Makers-Recommendation/dp/0226822974 • Ancillary Justice: https://www.amazon.com/Ancillary-Justice-Imperial-Radch-Leckie/dp/031624662X/ • The Happiness Lab podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-happiness-lab-with-dr-laurie-santos/id1474245040 • Gastropod podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/gastropod/id918896288 • Everything Everywhere All at Once on Showtime: https://www.sho.com/titles/3493875/everything-everywhere-all-at-once • Extraordinary Attorney Woo on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/81518991 • Figma: https://www.figma.com/ • Webflow: https://webflow.com/ • Clay: https://www.clay.com/ • MKT1 Newsletter: https://newsletter.mkt1.co/ • Emily Kramer on Lenny’s Podcast: https://www.lennyspodcast.com/how-to-build-a-powerful-marketing-machine-emily-kramer-asana-carta-mkt1/ In this episode, we cover: (00:00) How VaccinateCA helped bridge a gap in infrastructure (05:00) Zoelle’s lessons from her time at VaccinateCA (18:04) How Zoelle broke into the tech industry (19:01) Flocking patterns (24:21) What Block Party does (24:32) Zoelle’s storytelling (29:15) Tactics for punching above your weight as a small startup (31:30) The importance of having a highly detail-oriented person on staff (33:33) Why Airtable used billboards (36:43) Growth and marketing strategies at Airtable (42:29) Using data provided by your customers to build features that help future customers (50:59) Why customer success and marketing should be one team (52:56) Things to avoid in marketing (58:04) The power of templates (1:00:58) Why Airtable did not prioritize templates for top-of-funnel revenue (1:02:04) Why just getting PR to “get PR” is not a good strategy (1:04:57) The importance of getting customer feedback and investing in customer success (1:05:51) Simple strategies for getting customer feedback (1:07:53) Lightning round Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.

Zoelle EgnerguestLenny Rachitskyhost
Jan 29, 20231h 13mWatch on YouTube ↗

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January 29, 2023
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1h 13m
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Zoelle Egner is best known for her time at Airtable (currently valued at $11 billion), where she was the 11th employee and built and led the initial marketing and customer success teams. Currently she’s the Head of Marketing and Growth at Block Party, a company that designs consumer tools for online safety and anti-harassment. In today’s episode, we explore the marketing strategies that helped Airtable punch above its weight and build an established brand. We also dig into how Airtable was able to find its first super-users, how customer success played a key role in getting early traction, and the do’s and don’ts for marketing investments. Zoelle also shares her experience working for VaccinateCA (which ended up playing a massive role in helping get people vaccinated during the pandemic) and several tips for obtaining valuable customer feedback. — Brought to you by OneSchema—import CSV data 10x faster: https://oneschema.co/lenny; Pando—always-on employee progression: https://www.pando.com/lenny; and Lenny’s Job Board—hire the best product people, find the best product gigs: https://www.lennysjobs.com/talent. Find the full transcript here: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/lessons-from-airtables-unconventional Where to find Zoelle Egner:

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In this episode, we cover: (00:00) How VaccinateCA helped bridge a gap in infrastructure (05:00) Zoelle’s lessons from her time at VaccinateCA (18:04) How Zoelle broke into the tech industry (19:01) Flocking patterns (24:21) What Block Party does (24:32) Zoelle’s storytelling (29:15) Tactics for punching above your weight as a small startup (31:30) The importance of having a highly detail-oriented person on staff (33:33) Why Airtable used billboards (36:43) Growth and marketing strategies at Airtable (42:29) Using data provided by your customers to build features that help future customers (50:59) Why customer success and marketing should be one team (52:56) Things to avoid in marketing (58:04) The power of templates (1:00:58) Why Airtable did not prioritize templates for top-of-funnel revenue (1:02:04) Why just getting PR to “get PR” is not a good strategy (1:04:57) The importance of getting customer feedback and investing in customer success (1:05:51) Simple strategies for getting customer feedback (1:07:53) Lightning round Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.

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  • Zoelle Egner

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  • Lenny Rachitsky

    host
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EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, featuring Zoelle Egner and Lenny Rachitsky, Lessons from Airtable’s unconventional growth strategy | Zoelle Egner explores airtable’s early growth: tiny team, huge impact through champions Zoelle Egner shares how Airtable grew from a tiny early team into a trusted, widely adopted product by obsessing over quality, customer success, and word-of-mouth. She explains why Airtable invested in customer success before sales, how they identified and nurtured internal champions, and why seemingly small brand signals (like polished emails or billboards) helped them ‘punch above their weight’. Zoelle also contrasts high-ROI tactics (deep customer conversations, templates, targeted swag) with common low-ROI distractions (flashy sponsorships, category creation for its own sake, vanity PR). Throughout, she emphasizes treating marketing and customer success as a unified function whose core job is making customers successful enough to evangelize the product.

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