Lenny's PodcastWP Engine's Jason Cohen: Why churn caps every company's size
Diagnose stalled growth in order, logo churn first, then pricing and positioning; retention last. Jason Cohen's framework from building 2 unicorns.
Lenny RachitskyhostJason Cohenguest
CHAPTERS
- 0:00 – 5:19
Introduction to Jason Cohen
- 5:19 – 8:25
Jason’s writing journey
- 8:25 – 18:17
Questions to ask when your product stops growing
- 18:17 – 20:27
Getting real customer feedback
- 20:27 – 26:54
Analyzing cancellation reasons
- 26:54 – 29:35
Onboarding and activation
- 29:35 – 35:46
Quick summary
- 35:46 – 41:46
Revisiting pricing strategies
- 41:46 – 47:52
Positioning strategies
- 47:52 – 52:06
Why pricing is inseparable from your strategy
- 52:06 – 1:00:25
The importance of net revenue retention (NRR)
- 1:00:25 – 1:04:34
Asking whether or not this is good for the customer
- 1:04:34 – 1:06:42
Leveraging existing customers
- 1:06:42 – 1:09:41
Are your acquisition channels saturated? The “elephant curve”
- 1:09:41 – 1:12:04
Why all marketing channels eventually decline
- 1:12:04 – 1:13:36
Direct vs. indirect marketing channels
- 1:13:36 – 1:19:04
Getting creative with new channels
- 1:19:04 – 1:25:57
Do you actually need to grow?
- 1:25:57 – 1:29:27
Deciding when to quit
- 1:29:27 – 1:33:21
Book announcement
- 1:33:21 – 1:34:35
AI corner
- 1:34:35 – 1:37:43
Contrarian corner
- 1:37:43 – 1:46:03
Lightning round and final thoughts
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