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Canelo Álvarez: How Meditation CHANGED My Life & Helps Me WIN!

Welcome to The School of Greatness! Today, we’re stepping into the ring with none other than Canelo Álvarez, a true titan of the boxing world.

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  1. 0:00 – 1:40

    Intro

    1. CÁ

      Nobody, nobody believes in, in me before, and I showed them what person can accomplish with determination, with that believe in yourself and everything, and I, I'm just starting. [crowd cheering]

    2. LH

      [bell dings] And now, entering the arena, here is the pound for pound king. Saúl Canelo Álvarez.

    3. CÁ

      Meditation change my mind. I'm feeling my best. I feel, not just in boxing, in life.

    4. LH

      Do you have any fear when you fight today?

    5. CÁ

      I never feel fear.

    6. LH

      Really? [bell dings] What is it you want your legacy to be after that last match?

    7. CÁ

      One of the best in the history of boxing. And I'm gonna cry [laughs] that day. When you walk into the ring and hear all the people screaming, and that's singing that song you put and everything, I'm gonna, I'm gonna miss that moments.

    8. LH

      Hey, guys. We're here in a remote location, and we just interviewed Canelo, the greatest boxer arguably of all time, and it's been amazing to see behind the scenes. We're here where he actually trains. Some of his shoes, some of his gloves. You know, you've got the bag. You have Canelo right here, the logo. We've got his shoes and gloves over here that are actually drying, getting ready for a session, sparring session later. And, uh, we got the ring behind, so I'll show you really quick. All right. It's pretty cool.

  2. 1:40 – 3:14

    Pursuing Passions and Loving the Process

    1. LH

      Uh, and one of the things that I was really impressed and inspired about him was his, his commitment and his passion for his sport, for his family, for team that he's been with for a long time, and for just the process of being a champion. And he really talks about not having the fear of pursuing your dreams and pursuing your passions, but loving the process. Again, we're in this remote location. He's got his whole setup. He's got a, a, a detailed regimen every single day. Train, rest, run, rest. You know, think about and visualize. He's just getting into meditation. So it's so cool to see after nearly 20 years, almost two decades of mastering his craft and being at the top of his game, he's learning meditation this year, and he's talking about how it's changing his mind. It's changing his life. It's changing his ability to bring the power to his fights by adding more skills. So he's not slowing down. He's only getting better. He's only improving himself even more, and I think it's really cool to see someone after this many years who has made so much money, hundreds of millions of dollars in his career, all the businesses, all the success, all the fame. He's a king in his country. People of Mexico love this man. It's so cool to see that he's humble, to see that he talks about love, that he talks about his passion, and I just think that's really cool. So we're here, um, in this location. It was an amazing

  3. 3:14 – 4:55

    Mike Tyson on his boxing career

    1. LH

      experience to watch him behind the scenes, to connect with him, and I hope you enjoy this interview. The first thing I wanna ask you, you've almost been boxing for 20 years. Almost two decades.

    2. CÁ

      Yeah.

    3. LH

      Is there a difference between how you trained early on when you were a nobody, the first few years in your teens, versus how you train now? Mentally, physically, is there a difference? If so, what is that difference?

    4. CÁ

      Mentally is, I think is the same mentality. The same hungry, you know? Is, uh, for me is I train my menta- my, my, my mind is always try to get more. Try to get more, uh, history, uh, to my career, and, and I never... It's never enough for me.

    5. LH

      Really?

    6. CÁ

      It never enough for me. I always train so hard because, you know, I, I started like that, training so hard because in my mind, always when I was kid, I say, "I wanna be a champion." And then I reali- I, I accomplish that champion, and I say, "It's, it's something else more. It's something else there." So I always, uh, my mind is always i- it never enough for my mind.

    7. LH

      Right.

    8. CÁ

      Is I always train so hard, and I s- uh, and I love boxing so much. I enjoy it. I enjoy it. I still enjoy it.

    9. LH

      You still enjoy it? But it's almost been 20 years, right? 20 years.

    10. CÁ

      19 professional.

    11. LH

      19 professional. What is the three greatest lessons that boxing has taught you in almost 20 years of boxing?

    12. CÁ

      Is b- is, is gonna

  4. 4:55 – 6:36

    Lessons learned from boxing

    1. CÁ

      be very difficult to pick three lessons because I think the man I am right now, I, I learn from, from boxing because my whole life, I, uh, I give my whole life to, to boxing. Uh, I think boxing teach me everything, everything. Bad and goods, and, uh, and everything. I think, I think boxing made me.

    2. LH

      It made you, yeah? What is the, um, what is the lesson that you would, you would say to your younger self, with all the wisdom and experience you have now?

    3. CÁ

      It's... The only thing I can, I can say to, to them, like, um, if I ha-

    4. LH

      If you're 15 in front of you

    5. CÁ

      ... I have my, my, my son and say, "You, you, you can do whatever you want. You just, you just need to be able to, to have, able to sacrifices, discipline, and, uh, hard work."

    6. LH

      Yes.

    7. CÁ

      And have a good mentality because if you have that threes, th- three things, discipline, uh, sacrifices, and, and, and-

    8. LH

      Hard work

    9. CÁ

      ... hard work. But if you don't have that mentality, it's gonna be ve- Very difficult

    10. LH

      How do you keep the, the hunger alive inside of you for so long, though? It... 'Cause you were starting out as a young man wanting to be a champion, you became a champion, but how do you continue year after year to stay hungry and love it so much?

    11. CÁ

      I, I don't know. I don't know. I, I, I always say because I love what I do, and I, I have that passion on me, and I love what I do and, and I enjoy it, and I'm that kind of man since, uh, uh, I'm that kind of person say, if I'm gonna do something,

  5. 6:36 – 8:26

    Overcoming Fear in Boxing

    1. CÁ

      I'm gonna do 100%.

    2. LH

      Yeah

    3. CÁ

      Not in the middle, not 90%, no. I'm 100%. I always, uh, uh, try to do my best and try to do my everything and, and I, I think because I love what I do.

    4. LH

      Mm-hmm. How do you manage fear? Did you have a lot of fear growing up as you started fighting, and do you have any fear when you fight today?

    5. CÁ

      I never feel fear-

    6. LH

      Really?

    7. CÁ

      ... in, in, in boxing. I never feel how it's like to f- feel that, that fear. I always enjoyed my, my... I just enjoy a lot. I- my favorite day, my favorite thing is sparring days and a fight day is I, I just enjoy it a lot.

    8. LH

      Yeah

    9. CÁ

      I, I enjoy it, and I never have that experience to f- to f- to feel the fear or something. No, never.

    10. LH

      When you became a champion, world champion, did you feel fear to lose that ever?

    11. CÁ

      No.

    12. LH

      Really?

    13. CÁ

      No. Never. Never feel that fear.

    14. LH

      Why not? What, did someone teach you how to overcome fear?

    15. CÁ

      No

    16. LH

      Or is it-

    17. CÁ

      I don't know. I, I just, I always say because I, I really enjoy boxing. I really love boxing. I really love being in the, in the, in the ring fighting. I never thinking about, oh, if this happen or... I always go with the mentality to, to win and enjoy.

    18. LH

      Do you ever... When you're preparing for a fight, do you ever think about, "Well, what happens if I get knocked down or if I lose? Will I feel bad or..."

    19. CÁ

      I, I never think about lose. I never think about lose. I always think and train, uh, for the win.

    20. LH

      Yes

    21. CÁ

      And yes, I do. I, I, I think about if, if I get knocked out, how I'm gonna reaction, and we train about everything.

    22. LH

      You train it.

  6. 8:26 – 10:07

    The Fighter Mentality

    1. CÁ

      Yeah

    2. LH

      When you... You'll fall down and train it.

    3. CÁ

      If I feel dizzy, what I'm gonna do.

    4. LH

      Really?

    5. CÁ

      I, I, I al- we always train about that.

    6. LH

      Wow.

    7. CÁ

      We, we prepare ourself for, for everything, of course, but I never think about losing.

    8. LH

      Wow. What is the process like the day of a fight for you? Mentally and emotionally, how do you prepare for that fight?

    9. CÁ

      For me, it's a normal day.

    10. LH

      Just like-

    11. CÁ

      For me, I just-

    12. LH

      ... grab a cup of coffee, relax-

    13. CÁ

      Yeah

    14. LH

      ... hang out

    15. CÁ

      Relax. Obviously, uh, very relaxed, but, uh, for me, in my mind, it's, is, it's a normal day.

    16. LH

      Really?

    17. CÁ

      Yeah

    18. LH

      But the world is gonna watch you on these fights.

    19. CÁ

      Yeah, I know.

    20. LH

      There's so much money on the line, the, you know, the-

    21. CÁ

      I don't think about that. For me, it's normal. I'm gonna do my thing, and that's it. Obviously, I think, I, I, I, I, I put everything together that they... we, we put in the whole training camp.

    22. LH

      Uh-huh.

    23. CÁ

      I put, okay, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, and we train for this and that. But, uh, for me, it's a normal day, it's like, uh-

    24. LH

      You wake up the same time

    25. CÁ

      If, if you see me in the, if you see me in the locker room 20 minutes before the fight, I'm, I'm listen music, uh, chilling with my, with my team. So, I'm... For me, it's normal day.

    26. LH

      Are you not visualizing the fight?

    27. CÁ

      Yeah, always.

    28. LH

      You are?

    29. CÁ

      I always visualize my, my, my fight in, in the night. I know, okay, if this happen, I'm gonna do this. Uh, everything.

    30. LH

      How much energy does it take from you to visualize? It's... There's a lot of energy to train, to run every day, to, to spar, to lift,

  7. 10:07 – 11:41

    The mindset of a champion

    1. LH

      but how much energy to actually think at night about what you're gonna do in the ring?

    2. CÁ

      I just think. I, I, I don't, I don't, I don't put so much energy to think because I just, I just, "Okay, I'm gonna do this and this. I train for this," and that's it.

    3. LH

      Yeah

    4. CÁ

      I... For me, like, uh, my life routine.

    5. LH

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    6. CÁ

      It's not like I wanna, uh, do this or, or to stress myself. No.

    7. LH

      It's relaxing

    8. CÁ

      It's relaxing

    9. LH

      It's relaxing. Wow, that's beautiful. And what do you think about after you win a fight? When you've prepared for months and you win a big fight, and the whole world is watching, how does it make you feel?

    10. CÁ

      It's the best feeling.

    11. LH

      Yeah.

    12. CÁ

      It's the best feeling because you put your life there. You put everything in the training camp. You left your family, you left everything for that moment.

    13. LH

      Yes

    14. CÁ

      For that moment, for the win. You prepare yourself for, for the win, and it's the best feeling.

    15. LH

      Yes

    16. CÁ

      Then is, is when you, uh, realize everything, uh, everything you do, everything, the sacrifices, the, the discipline you put in the gym, uh, there is the results.

    17. LH

      It's worth it. Yeah, yeah. Did you ever doubt yourself growing up?

    18. CÁ

      Never

    19. LH

      Like self-doubt?

    20. CÁ

      Never

    21. LH

      Insecurities?

    22. CÁ

      Never in my life.

    23. LH

      How did you learn that, though?

    24. CÁ

      I don't know

    25. LH

      So many people in the world are insecure about who they are, right? They doubt.

    26. CÁ

      I never doubt about myself. Never

    27. LH

      Was that your parents or your grandmother or-

    28. CÁ

      No, I don't know

    29. LH

      ... did they teach you how to believe in yourself?

    30. CÁ

      I don't know. My mentality

  8. 11:41 – 13:26

    Overcoming Insecurities in Boxing and Business

    1. CÁ

      is always like, I don't care who is there, I'm, I'm gonna do, achieve my goals no matter what. So, and I just started professional boxing when I was 15 years old. So, sometime my trainer, my trainers s- saw the opponent and say, "Hey, he's, he's too strong, and he's, he's, uh, 30 years old," and I don't care I don't, I don't, I, uh, I don't, I don't really care, and then two rounds and that

    2. LH

      And you knock them out, yeah. Do you have... I mean, do you ever have any insecurities outside of boxing, like starting business or, and some other ventures? Are you-

    3. CÁ

      No.

    4. LH

      No [laughs] no insecurities?

    5. CÁ

      No. I think the, the, the first time I jump in the, in the bus and try to sell ice creams in, in the bus, I feel a little, I don't know, insecure or I feel a little shame-

    6. LH

      Nervous

    7. CÁ

      ... because, you know, I'm red hair, I have freckles and everything, and, uh, I, I feel like a little ashamed. I don't... Maybe insecure.

    8. LH

      It's okay.

    9. CÁ

      But when-

    10. LH

      But you're like five, six, seven years old?

    11. CÁ

      Yeah.

    12. LH

      Yeah, young.

    13. CÁ

      Five, five, six years old.

    14. LH

      Selling popsicles.

    15. CÁ

      And, and then I say, "What happened? Nothing happened."

    16. LH

      [laughs]

    17. CÁ

      I, I... And then I start, I start feeling good, but I, I think that moment I feel like a little insecure because the people saw me and say something about, about me. I don't know. But then I re- I, I don't give a f-

    18. LH

      So like, so 25 years ago was the last time you were insecure?

    19. CÁ

      Yeah. [laughs]

    20. LH

      [laughs] But in, when you're starting business, 'cause you've got all these

  9. 13:26 – 15:11

    Building Partnerships and Overcoming Worries

    1. LH

      businesses that you've, you've been building in Mexico and USA as well, are you... You know, do you feel like, "Oh, maybe I don't understand business fully like everyone else yet because I'm mostly a boxer?" Do you ever get worried about that?

    2. CÁ

      Worry? Yes, but I'm not insecure.

    3. LH

      Okay.

    4. CÁ

      Is, is different. Worry about, okay, I'm gonna do with the correct persons, find the correct pers- persons and-

    5. LH

      Partners

    6. CÁ

      ... partners and everything, you know? But never insecure, because it's, it's there a lot of people bring with business and this and this, but I, at the end of the day, I'm gonna do whatever I want. And I say, okay, I wanna do this. I'm gonna find the correct person to do it. So maybe worry about to find the correct partner. Yeah.

    7. LH

      Right people, yeah.

    8. CÁ

      Right people.

    9. LH

      To make sure it's good. Do you ever feel... I mean, you're a legend and an icon all around the world, but specifically in Mexico, right? Mexicans love you. Uh, I love visiting Mexico. Obviously, my fiancée's from Mexico, and people love you there. Do you ever feel a pressure to make them proud or to do the right things or...?

    10. CÁ

      In some, in some point, yes.

    11. LH

      Really?

    12. CÁ

      In some point, yes, because you know we have a huge history in boxing-

    13. LH

      Yes

    14. CÁ

      ... in Mexico. In some point, yes, but, um, in some there time I say, you know, I, I, I always do my best.

    15. LH

      Yes.

    16. CÁ

      And I put my best in there. So, uh, I know they, my fans, my really, my true fans, they proud about me.

    17. LH

      Yeah.

    18. CÁ

      Because I, they know I, I, I put everything, uh, everything there.

  10. 15:11 – 17:01

    Love for Mexico

    1. CÁ

      Is, is, is there people who don't like, but, uh, but I know that they... I can't do anything with that people.

    2. LH

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    3. CÁ

      You know? But in some moment, yes, I feel like, uh, oh, I need to do this to, to make my, uh, my fans happy, but, uh, then you realize I put everything I, I, I can in there, so they, they will be happy.

    4. LH

      Yeah. What is it you love about Mexico and, and Mexican people the most?

    5. CÁ

      Everything. Everything. Mexico is, is very unique. It's very unique. You know, the, the, the warm of the person, the service they, they give you, and the love. Uh, we have a lot of places, beautiful places in Mexico. I think we have a lot of, a lot of good things in Mex- uh, a lot of good things in Mexico.

    6. LH

      Yeah. The, the culture, the people, the love is something that I appreciate and really enjoy. Um, you've got a, you know, you've got a family, you've got kids. What changed for you in boxing when you started to have kids? Did something shift inside of you?

    7. CÁ

      I, uh, I started having kids since I was 17 years old.

    8. LH

      17.

    9. CÁ

      So yeah, changed my mind a lot because, uh, then I, I have responsibility of a big man. So very hard, very hard at, at the beginning, but, uh, at the end of the day, um, I have three jobs and then go to train, and went three jobs and then go to train because, you know, I have the best for my, for my daughter that moment when I was 17 years old.

    10. LH

      What were those

  11. 17:01 – 18:46

    Working as an Ice Cream Seller at 17

    1. LH

      jobs? What were those three jobs?

    2. CÁ

      Uh, sells ice creams.

    3. LH

      When you were 17?

    4. CÁ

      Yeah.

    5. LH

      Wow.

    6. CÁ

      I, my, my... I help my dad, my bro- and two of my brothers.

    7. LH

      Wow.

    8. CÁ

      So then go to train and...

    9. LH

      Sell ice cream.

    10. CÁ

      Yeah.

    11. LH

      'Cause you dropped out of school, high school, correct?

    12. CÁ

      Yeah. When I was 15 years old.

    13. LH

      Right. You didn't like school?

    14. CÁ

      I didn't.

    15. LH

      [laughs] I didn't either.

    16. CÁ

      [laughs] I didn't.

    17. LH

      I didn't like it either.

    18. CÁ

      But maybe if I have a, a different life and different, different positions, maybe I, I do like the school, but for me it was different.

    19. LH

      You're speaking of the warmth, you know. You t- I've, I heard you talk about your grandmother really loving you in a big way growing up, your father, your mother. I'm curious, could you share the biggest thing you've learned from your grandmother, your father, and your mother? One lesson from each that they taught you.

    20. CÁ

      I think they never, they never surrender in everything.

    21. LH

      They never surrender?

    22. CÁ

      Never. They always hard workings. They always... With love, uh- I think if you walking in life with love, you, you, you gonna be good

    23. LH

      Mm

    24. CÁ

      ... everywhere. Everywhere, no matter what. If you walking with love, you gonna be good in life.

    25. LH

      Have you always had love in your heart?

    26. CÁ

      Yeah

    27. LH

      Or have you ever had anger or resentment?

    28. CÁ

      I think in some point, yes, but I always have love in my, in my, in my heart because, you know, I always, whatever I do, I do with my heart.

  12. 18:46 – 20:24

    Love and Fighting

    1. LH

      Right. When you have love in your heart but you're a boxer and you're fighting someone, uh-

    2. CÁ

      I need to. Yeah, it's like a, it's like a animal.

    3. LH

      Right

    4. CÁ

      If you are whatever animal, you're good, but if you need to bring food for your family or you need to take care of your family, you gonna-

    5. LH

      You're fighting

    6. CÁ

      ... do everything.

    7. LH

      Yeah

    8. CÁ

      And fight. So I'm, I'm walking with love, but, uh, I'm a fighter.

    9. LH

      You walk with love, but when you're fighting...

    10. CÁ

      I'm a fighter

    11. LH

      You're a fighter. Did something switch in your mind when you had your daughter at 17? Did you become more focused as a fighter, or did anything shift inside of you in terms of, "I need to work harder", or was it the same type of routine?

    12. CÁ

      Same

    13. LH

      Same

    14. CÁ

      Same. For me, I never doubt about being a world champion.

    15. LH

      You never thought-

    16. CÁ

      No matter what. Ne- never a doubt

    17. LH

      Never a doubt about you being-

    18. CÁ

      Never a doubt. I, I... My daughter comes and I say, "Even more." Even more focus, even more, uh, determinate everything. I think my daughter teach me a lot of things and made me put that extra.

    19. LH

      Really? So you trained harder, you focused more?

    20. CÁ

      Yeah. I think my daughter put, uh, made me put that extra motivation.

    21. LH

      And you have, you have a big family, like seven or eight siblings, right?

    22. CÁ

      Eight. Yeah

    23. LH

      Eight, seven brothers or six brothers, right?

    24. CÁ

      Seven and, uh, one sister.

    25. LH

      That's incredible. And I w- I saw a video of you talking about how

  13. 20:24 – 22:01

    Balancing Personal and Professional Challenges

    1. LH

      your brother got kidnapped at one point right before a fight.

    2. CÁ

      Yeah

    3. LH

      Is that true? Did that-

    4. CÁ

      That's true, yeah.

    5. LH

      How did you manage... And I... You had to do all these interviews, you had to prepare for a fight mentally, emotionally. How were you able to focus and deal with the kidnapping of your brother?

    6. CÁ

      It was very difficult.

    7. LH

      Yeah

    8. CÁ

      For me, it was very difficult because it was the, the week of the fight.

    9. LH

      That's crazy

    10. CÁ

      So it was a very difficult time for, for, for me and for, for the family. But, uh, I don't know. I don't know how my mind go, go for that situation, but, uh, I always say, you know, I'm gonna do my best in everything. And, and at the end, everything was good and, and, and, and, and I handled good.

    11. LH

      You handled it. Did you think about stopping the fight or...?

    12. CÁ

      No. Oh, never

    13. LH

      Right. Just keep going, [laughs] keep going no matter what.

    14. CÁ

      My life need to keep going.

    15. LH

      What has being a father taught you about life now that you're a father of many kids? What has that taught you about life?

    16. CÁ

      I think, I think everything you need to... Because you need to walking with example for your kids, you know? It's the best teach for them.

    17. LH

      Your kids are the be- you're the best teacher for them.

    18. CÁ

      Yeah. If you do the correct things and they saw you, how you, how you do that, the things, I think they gonna learn.

    19. LH

      Right. Right

    20. CÁ

      You can

  14. 22:01 – 23:42

    The Power of Meditation in Life and Boxing

    1. CÁ

      say a lot of things, but if they saw you doing-

    2. LH

      Your example. Yeah, yeah, your way of being

    3. CÁ

      ... you know, it's, it's... The example is, uh, the best thing.

    4. LH

      Yeah. We were talking about meditation before we started filming, that this year you started getting into meditation.

    5. CÁ

      Yeah

    6. LH

      Breathing, listening to music, meditation. We were talking about Dr. Joe Dispenza before. What has meditation s- done to you to support you in your training and preparing for fighting?

    7. CÁ

      I f- I feel in my best moment right now because of the meditation, yeah. I feel in my best. I feel, uh, not just in boxing, in life

    8. LH

      Life. In relationships

    9. CÁ

      Relationship, uh, friends, uh, business, uh, boxing, everything. Everything. I think for me, meditation change my mind

    10. LH

      Really?

    11. CÁ

      Change my, changed my life.

    12. LH

      What have you learned about it so far?

    13. CÁ

      Everything. You n- Like what I say, if you walking with love, you gonna be good everywhere. And it's a lot of things that love comes, you know?

    14. LH

      Bad things too, right?

    15. CÁ

      Limits. Limits, respect. Ev- The loves come with a lot of things, but, uh, we don't so- We just think our love is love. No, love comes with limits, with respect, with, uh... A lot, a lot of things comes with love. So if you walking with love, I think you're gonna be good everywhere.

    16. LH

      Yes. Uh, I ask a lot of people about the difference between success and greatness.

  15. 23:42 – 25:42

    La Grandeza vs. El Éxito

    1. LH

      This show is called The School of Greatness, and I'm curious, what is your definition of success versus greatness?

    2. CÁ

      No sé traduce en español, greatness.

    3. LH

      No. Is there a word for greatness in, in Spanish? Is it

    4. CÁ

      Um, uh, greatness in Spanish is like, uh, uh, lo mejor. The best

    5. LH

      The best

    6. CÁ

      Lo mejor, lo mejor

    7. LH

      The best. Okay

    8. CÁ

      Lo mejor, yeah

    9. LH

      What... In your mind, what is the definition of greatness versus the definition of success?

    10. CÁ

      Success, I think success is, uh, in life if you do The, whatever thing, if you got success, that's success. But a greatness is-

    11. LH

      Like an accomplishment or like a-

    12. CÁ

      Accomplishment, yeah

    13. LH

      ... yeah

    14. CÁ

      Like a, you know, a world champion.

    15. LH

      Uh-huh.

    16. CÁ

      Okay. You-

    17. LH

      That's success.

    18. CÁ

      That's success.

    19. LH

      And what's greatness in your mind?

    20. CÁ

      What I, what I'm doing, that's greatness. Go out of your s- comfort zone-

    21. LH

      Mm

    22. CÁ

      ... and do things everybody say you're gonna, you, you can't do it. I think that's a difference. And, and, and, and believe in, in whatever you, you, you wanna do. I think what happened with me is nobody, nobody believes in, in, in me before because I'm too, too short for that weight classes and all this and that. And I-

    23. LH

      Skinny, short

    24. CÁ

      ... uh-huh

    25. LH

      Yeah

    26. CÁ

      And, and I showed them what person can accomplish with, with, with, uh, with that determination-

    27. LH

      Mm

    28. CÁ

      ... with that, uh, uh, believe in yourself and everything. I think... And I, and I, I'm just starting.

  16. 25:42 – 27:25

    The Importance of Life Outside of Boxing

    1. LH

      Right now?

    2. CÁ

      Yeah.

    3. LH

      Wow.

    4. CÁ

      I'm just starting because-

    5. LH

      In, in boxing?

    6. CÁ

      In boxing.

    7. LH

      You're just starting in boxing now?

    8. CÁ

      In bo- in boxing I'm... Whatever years, uh, come left, like four or five years, I don't know. But, uh, in my life, in my life, I think I want, I, I, I just want, wanna teach ev- other boxer, other athletes, they need to put things outside boxing, too.

    9. LH

      Mm.

    10. CÁ

      Because, you know, that history, that athletes come and win a lot of money or win a lot of, have a lot of success, and at the end of the day they got nothing.

    11. LH

      Right.

    12. CÁ

      Nobody, nobody... Everybody forget that athlete.

    13. LH

      Five years later.

    14. CÁ

      Five years later.

    15. LH

      10 years later, yeah.

    16. CÁ

      Yeah. So I wanna teach them they need to do something outside the boxing, outside every sport they do. And if you risk your life for 20 years in boxing, and then at the end of the day, five years later, you go in the same position, what's-

    17. LH

      Right. Yeah. Do you ever get worried about, um... My, my boxing trainer, when I work out for fun, I'm not a trainer like you obviously, but when I box for fun, a few years ago I said, "Hey," you know, all these YouTube people were, like, boxing and fighting, all these people. I said, "Hey, would you ever train me if someone wanted to fight me?" And he said, "I wouldn't train you." And he was an Olympic, uh, medalist. Olympic-

    18. CÁ

      Mm

    19. LH

      ... uh, medalist. He said, "I wouldn't train you."

  17. 27:25 – 28:55

    Concerns about Head Injuries in Boxing

    1. CÁ

      Boxing?

    2. LH

      Boxing. And he said, "I wouldn't train you." I said, "Why not?" He said, "Just the damage that people get with their, the head injuries."

    3. CÁ

      Mm-hmm.

    4. LH

      You know? And he said, "I've just seen too many fighters get hit so many times and hurt themselves."

    5. CÁ

      Mm-hmm.

    6. LH

      Has that ever worried you about just so much head?

    7. CÁ

      Part of my job.

    8. LH

      Right.

    9. CÁ

      Part of my job.

    10. LH

      Has it ever concerned you or worried you?

    11. CÁ

      I always, I always... That's what I train. I train to don't get so much hit.

    12. LH

      Yeah, you very good. Defense-

    13. CÁ

      Yeah

    14. LH

      ... is amazing.

    15. CÁ

      Yeah, defense. I train so much in defense. I don't get, I don't wanna get hit.

    16. LH

      Yeah. [laughs]

    17. CÁ

      Uh, but I mean, this is sport. Uh, I mean, I'm, I'm... But I can-

    18. LH

      It is what it is

    19. CÁ

      ... I, I never worry about it.

    20. LH

      Uh-huh.

    21. CÁ

      I, I worry about it because I've trained. I, I don't, I don't, I don't wanna get hit, but, uh, at the end of the day I'm, I'm there.

    22. LH

      Yeah.

    23. CÁ

      So.

    24. LH

      It's part of the job.

    25. CÁ

      Yeah.

    26. LH

      When you see someone like Muhammad Ali or other boxers who maybe have brain injuries who are older, does that ever worry you or concern you?

    27. CÁ

      No.

    28. LH

      No? Yeah.

    29. CÁ

      No, because, you know, it's what I love, and at the end of the day-

    30. LH

      Yeah

  18. 28:55 – 30:35

    Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson: Who would be tougher?

    1. LH

      be a harder fight for you right now, Mike Tyson or Jake Paul?

    2. CÁ

      Well-

    3. LH

      In a hypothetical scenario, who do you think would be tougher for you?

    4. CÁ

      I think if you put them together the, in the ring with me, maybe it's gonna-

    5. LH

      Maybe both together [laughs]

    6. CÁ

      Maybe, maybe it's gonna be a-

    7. LH

      Maybe it's tough? [laughs]

    8. CÁ

      ... very, a little complicated.

    9. LH

      [laughs] But one or the other, they're-

    10. CÁ

      Yeah

    11. LH

      ... they're about the same you think?

    12. CÁ

      At least not, yeah.

    13. LH

      They're the same you think for you? Who do you think would, would win between them?

    14. CÁ

      It's, it's, it's hard to say, but you know, it's, it's risky for Mike Tyson.

    15. LH

      Really? Why?

    16. CÁ

      For sure. Yeah, because he's 57 and 58, I don't know, and, and it's... Boxing is no, it's not a joke.

    17. LH

      It's no joke.

    18. CÁ

      It's just, it's... But, uh, you know, I know, I get it, I get, I get, I get it what they, why they do this.

    19. LH

      It's a business.

    20. CÁ

      It's a business.

    21. LH

      Yeah, yeah.

    22. CÁ

      They're gonna fight with 18 ounces with no g-

    23. LH

      Bigger gloves.

    24. CÁ

      Yeah.

    25. LH

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    26. CÁ

      Yeah.

    27. LH

      It's a business. You, speaking of business, uh, you've been getting into business more and more over the years, which I'm excited to talk about as well. Real estate, your own businesses, Canelo Energy, you know, all these different brands that you're building, what excites you the most about business and entrepreneurship? And, and is it a, a distraction?

    28. CÁ

      No

    29. LH

      To do all that as well as fight ever?

    30. CÁ

      No.

  19. 30:35 – 32:27

    Becoming a Business Leader

    1. CÁ

      doing my team, everything. And, and I do what I need to do for my business, and I'm, I'm, I care about every business I have. But I like it. I enjoy doing real estates. I enjoy in building my drinks. And, and, and everything I do, I, I, I really enjoy it.

    2. LH

      Yeah. What is your vision for your-

    3. CÁ

      Gas stations, uh-

    4. LH

      Yeah

    5. CÁ

      ... everything.

    6. LH

      Every- You got a lot going on. What is your vision for your, for your future after boxing? Is it to be a business leader in the world, or what is the main vision that you have for business?

    7. CÁ

      Yeah. That's, that's my goal is being one of the best businessman in the world.

    8. LH

      Really?

    9. CÁ

      Yeah.

    10. LH

      Why does that excite you so much after boxing?

    11. CÁ

      I don't... I l- I just-

    12. LH

      You love it

    13. CÁ

      ... I d- I, I like, I l- I, I love to be involved in these kind of things and, and, and, and see how they going big and big and big and big, you know? Starting with, with some and then grow up. It's, uh, I l- I like it so much because when I was young, I saw my brother Ricardo. Um, he put a ice cream, uh, store with $5,000. And, um, bui- we build in five, six month, like a bu- bring people, bring people, bring people. And then he sell it for 30, $40,000. So, and I saw him, and I, I just start learning. Start learning, and, and I really enjoy that kind of things.

    14. LH

      Well, that's beautiful, man. I've got three final questions for you, but, uh, again,

  20. 32:27 – 34:09

    The Three Lessons to Share

    1. LH

      I want to thank you for taking the time to do this. This has been exciting. Um, this is a question I ask everyone towards the end of my conversations. It's, it's called the three truths. So it's a hypothetical question. So I want you to imagine you get to live as long as you want in life. You could be 100 years old or 120, whatever it is.

    2. CÁ

      Mm-hmm.

    3. LH

      You get to live as long as you want. You have the career you want in boxing for the next five, seven years. You become a mega billionaire in business. You do everything you want. You see your kids grow up. Um, but at the end of the day, it's the last day of life, and you only get to share three lessons with the world from everything you've learnt about boxing and relationships and love and business, what three lessons would you share with the world on your last day of life?

    4. CÁ

      I think love is the first one. Love. I think love is, is, is have a lot of, a lot of the three lessons I, I wanna say because love come with limits, respect and everything. But I think love, uh, determination and believe in yourself.

    5. LH

      Believe in yourself. How do people who feel very insecure, who don't love themselves, who don't have any skills or talents-

    6. CÁ

      I think everything come from that

    7. LH

      How do they learn to believe in themselves, though,

  21. 34:09 – 35:45

    The difficulties faced by the younger generation

    1. LH

      if they don't have it?

    2. CÁ

      It's g- it's, it's very difficult because, you know, uh, uh, it's difficult to learn to have secure in yourself because they come with a lot of problems, not from, not from them, from the past generation.

    3. LH

      Yes.

    4. CÁ

      You know, from them. It's from the past generation, they have a lot of troubles.

    5. LH

      From their parents and-

    6. CÁ

      That, that's why they, you acting like... Because you have, you have, uh, problems that not your problems.

    7. LH

      Yes.

    8. CÁ

      It's your, your, your generation. So it's difficult. I think with meditation it's-

    9. LH

      It's possible, huh?

    10. CÁ

      It's possible.

    11. LH

      Because you had a lot of past problems in your, you know, in your family in the past, but how did you-

    12. CÁ

      It's not your problems.

    13. LH

      Right. Mm.

    14. CÁ

      But, uh, meditation teach you that.

    15. LH

      Yes.

    16. CÁ

      I think meditation is one of the best things I learned.

    17. LH

      That's beautiful, man.

    18. CÁ

      Because when you walking with that things you carry from your past, you acting like you're normal, but not.

    19. LH

      Mm.

    20. CÁ

      You're carrying with problems.

    21. LH

      From the past, yeah.

    22. CÁ

      And you have a lot of problems too, because you c- you, you walking with that-

    23. LH

      Yeah

    24. CÁ

      ... problems.

    25. LH

      Um, I, one more-

    26. CÁ

      And you acting

    27. LH

      You're acting from the past too. Yeah, yeah. I've got one final question for you. Um, but before I ask it, I wanna acknowledge you, Canelo, for your generosity, for your passion, for your love, uh, for your country, for the sport, for people, and, um, just how you show up with consistency

  22. 35:45 – 37:25

    Legacy and Love in Boxing

    1. LH

      in your life. It's inspiring to watch a champion be a good person as well. I know you give back to charities in your c- in your country, and you do so much good, so I acknowledge you for the loving man that you are in this world.

    2. CÁ

      Thank you so much.

    3. LH

      Um, my final question. When you're on top of this ring with your hands raised and the flag of Mexico behind you on your last fight, four, five, six, seven years away, and it's your last moment to stand up and say Viva Mexico after a win, what is it you want your legacy to be after that last match?

    4. CÁ

      One of the best in the history of boxing.

    5. LH

      Yeah

    6. CÁ

      And I'm gonna cry [laughs] that day

    7. LH

      That day?

    8. CÁ

      Yeah, a lot.

    9. LH

      Why would you?

    10. CÁ

      'Cause I'm gonna miss boxing so much.

    11. LH

      You'll miss it? Yeah.

    12. CÁ

      That moment when you walk into the ring and hear all the people screaming and that's singing that song you put and everything, I'm gonna, I'm gonna miss that moment. But, uh, that's life.

    13. LH

      That's life, man. You're a legend, man. Appreciate you, Canelo. Thanks, brother.

    14. CÁ

      Gracias. Gracias.

    15. LH

      Nice to meet you, brother.

    16. CÁ

      Gracias.

    17. LH

      So we just finished with Canelo, amazing time. Um, his English is getting better every time I see him do interviews, so it was really cool to watch him talk about love was one of the main things, how to have love in your heart for your sport, for your family, for your country, for the business that you're a part of. But he talked about

  23. 37:25 – 38:54

    Canelo: An Inspiring Journey

    1. LH

      love a lot, which I thought was really cool. And to see someone almost 20 years in a profession love his sport and his career just as much, and have just as much hunger as when he started almost 20 years ago is really inspiring to see. And to see how he keeps his, his family close, his team very close, and he doesn't have a lot of distractions. You know, he likes to train in an isolated location where there's not a lot of distractions. He likes to live in a location where he's not distracted, but just have the most important things in his life at all times. So I think it's really cool, uh, that at this age, this season of life, he is continually showing up, training harder than ever to be the best he can be, and he has no fear. He's not afraid to lose. Uh, he's not afraid to get hurt. He understands that comes with part of his career and what he's up to, but it doesn't hold him back from being determined to succeed and do something beautiful and great with his life. Uh, and you know, what he said at the end, which I thought was really cool, you know, what's it gonna feel like when you win that last fight and you decide it's time to retire, um, where he was reflecting on how that would look after 20, 25 years plus of a career, to then feel all the emotions rushing in on that last fight. So had a beautiful time, amazing inspiration with the greatest of all time, Canelo.

    2. CÁ

      And giving

  24. 38:54 – 39:12

    Investing in Yourself

    1. CÁ

      everything so you know deep inside if you every training give everything or not.

    2. CÁ

      Word.

    3. CÁ

      Things can come your way or not, but if you keep giving everything, you are, like she said, she always said this, you are investing. You are investing. If you give everything, no matter the outcome, you can have bad trainings or good trainin-

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