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Lewis HowesCREATOR of “THE SECRET” Reveals How The LAW of ATTRACTION Actually Works! 🤯 | Rhonda Byrne
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CHAPTERS
- 0:00 – 2:38
Rhonda Byrne on the Law of Attraction and The Secret's reach
Lewis Howes welcomes Rhonda Byrne, noting The Secret's roughly 34 million copies in print and her rare in-person interview. He asks her to explain the Law of Attraction in simple terms.
- •The Secret has nearly 34 million copies in print in over 50 languages
- •This is one of Byrne's first in-person interviews since Oprah about 16 years ago
- •Byrne has also created The Secret Manifestation cards
- •Howes notes the celebration and the criticism The Secret has received
- 2:38 – 10:04
The Law of Attraction explained: what we speak is what we get
Byrne explains that every person is a creator and that focused thought manifests in life. She says speaking about lack or overwhelm brings more of it, and that people should talk about what they want. She describes the mind as a trainable program.
- •Every human being is a creator, and focused thought manifests in life
- •Saying "I'm broke" or "I'm overwhelmed" brings more of the same
- •All the action in the world won't override a held belief
- •Talk about what you want until you have it
- •The mind is just a program that can be trained to lean positive
- 10:04 – 11:30
Wanting without lack: how to ask and let go
Howes asks how to speak about desires without it coming from lack. Byrne says that adding "it's not here yet" cancels the manifestation, and that we can simply ask and receive.
- •Saying "but it's not in my life right now" cancels the manifestation
- •"I would really love to have this" is a softer way to ask
- •Thoughts of "it's not here yet" produce more of not having it
- •We underestimate our power to ask and have it given
- 11:30 – 18:14
Answering the critics and success stories from book signings
Howes raises the criticism that you can't just think something into existence without action. Byrne says everyone has the right to their beliefs and shares stories of people who transformed their lives. She also describes how her own night of collapse led to The Secret despite her company being $2 million in debt.
- •Byrne responds to naysayers with "good for them"
- •Lester Levinson's padlocked-room example of knowing you have it
- •A book-signing attendee manifested a top sound studio in LA
- •Byrne was $2 million in debt and held only the thought of taking this to the world
- 18:14 – 22:31
Everything is on track, even in breakdown
Using one of her cards, Howes asks how we are being moved toward magnificence even during suffering. Byrne uses her own collapse, her father's sudden death, and the earlier firing as events that led to discovering The Secret.
- •Card: "Everything is always on track, always"
- •Her health, relationships, finances and grief all collapsed on one night
- •Making films about murder and being fired earlier all led to The Secret
- •Byrne says everything is unfolding perfectly and that we are consciousness with no end
- 22:31 – 31:36
Gratitude through suffering, and the cost of resentment
Howes reads cards about being grateful for challenges and gratitude as a multiplier, and asks how to be grateful amid pain. Byrne calls gratitude the fastest way to change a life and shares how it lifted her mother out of grief. She also says holding resentment attracts more resentment.
- •Gratitude is the fastest way to change your life
- •Taking things for granted means they get taken from us
- •Byrne's mother lifted herself out of grief by being grateful for her marriage and children
- •Resentment attracts more circumstances that cause resentment, signaling something to let go of
- •Feelings are powerful manifestors, and Byrne says fear around COVID made things seem worse
- 31:36 – 39:15
Thoughts versus feelings, and living in joy
Asked whether thoughts or feelings matter more, Byrne says to use whichever is easiest, though she became very sensitive to her feelings. Howes shares how choosing to bring joy everywhere unlocked opportunities, and Byrne says joy sits at the frequency of love.
- •Byrne paid attention to both thoughts and feelings and avoided emails when not feeling good
- •She distinguishes being happy from being unhappy, with no middle
- •Howes decided to bring joy into every room when he lacked direction
- •Byrne says everything you want is on the joy frequency and nothing is more important than feeling good
- •Joy manifests fast, while grief and despair manifest slowly
- 39:15 – 43:21
Embracing depression with love
Byrne shares a time she became depressed while extremely worried about her daughter. Positive thoughts felt weak, so she imagined putting her arms around the feeling, and it dissolved within days.
- •She felt she had thought herself into depression through believing scary thoughts
- •Positive thoughts felt weak against the strength of the depression
- •Feelings are sensations, and she chose to love the depression instead of resisting it
- •What you resist persists, and nothing negative can remain in the face of love
- •The depression was gone in about three days
- 43:21 – 50:12
Worthiness, greatness, and kindness
Howes asks how people can know they are worthy of great things. Byrne says she only recognized afterward that her life led to The Secret and describes different forms of greatness, including her mother's. They also discuss kindness and choosing happiness.
- •Byrne did not know her destiny until she discovered The Secret, then knew it completely
- •Her newsroom experience informed her decision to limit media after The Secret exploded
- •Her mother achieved greatness as a mother and wife, while others take risks
- •Bringing joy to others by your presence is a great life
- •A hairdresser decided to be happy and later got his own salon
- 50:12 – 57:05
Handling success and writing The Secret
Howes asks how Byrne handled the pressure of massive success. She says she never felt it was about her, describes writing the book at speed in a Santa Monica apartment, and says she felt like a stenographer.
- •She made a conscious decision to limit interviews
- •She felt the message was the star, not her
- •Making the documentary and writing the book felt miraculous, and writing took a physical toll
- •She had never written before but turned "I'm not a writer" into "Yes, I am"
- •She wrote simply because the concept was hard to grasp then
- 57:05 – 1:07:24
Believing versus knowing, and manifesting when it hasn't arrived
Asked about timing and frustration, Byrne says the difference is belief and describes her own state as knowing. Howes relates this to his Christian Science upbringing. Byrne says you only need to believe more than not, and shares the pregnancy visualization and Olympic volleyball stories.
- •Byrne's belief was knowing it had already happened, beyond the mind
- •You can manifest with believing as long as you believe more than you doubt
- •If you need patience, you aren't believing it has manifested
- •A woman who couldn't conceive was told to visualize holding the baby and became pregnant within a month
- •Australian volleyball players filled their apartment with gold and won; action after mental creation is effortless
- 1:07:24 – 1:16:04
Staying humble and acting as if
Howes asks how to keep ego from consuming success. Byrne says to stay humble and grateful, and describes celebrating before the book came out. They share suitcase, bridle and Oprah audience stories, the universe abhorring a vacuum, and making room for a partner or baby.
- •Staying humble and grateful, since you never do it alone
- •Byrne's team danced and celebrated The Secret's success in daily intention meetings before it happened
- •Howes' suitcase tradition led to booking a trip to Japan
- •Acting as if: a woman flew to Chicago and got an Oprah audience seat; another bought a bridle and was offered a horse
- •Create a vacuum, like space for a partner or a nursery, and don't believe thoughts that you don't deserve it
- 1:16:04 – 1:22:12
Navigating negative thoughts and gossip
Byrne says the key is awareness of what's happening in your mind, and catching negative thoughts gets faster with practice. She says gossip is a very low frequency and that thinking badly of others comes back to us because the law responds only to our own thoughts.
- •Notice your feelings as the first sign of negative thoughts
- •Catching a spiral, even afterward, is progress and gets faster with practice
- •The mind is a program shaped by what we put into it
- •Gossip is a very low frequency
- •Whatever you say or think about others is brought to you
- 1:22:12 – 1:29:32
The manifestation cards, what's next, three truths and greatness
Howes promotes The Secret Manifestation cards and where to find them. Byrne shares her plans for apps and a possible book, her three truths, and her definition of greatness as humility. She starts to discuss money, saying people block it with limiting beliefs.
- •The deck has 65 cards and a 16-page booklet, available at thesecret.tv
- •Byrne wants to keep creating to reach and help more people
- •Her three truths: love everything and everyone, be grateful for every moment, be the joy
- •She defines greatness as humility
- •She says people block money by thinking they don't have enough or don't deserve it
