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Lewis HowesDr Joe Dispenza: Manifest Abundance & HEAL Your Body in the 5th Dimension (YOU Can Do This!)
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135 min read · 26,891 words- 0:00 – 6:12
Intro
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
The probability that we're seeing the truth of reality is zero. Everything that I'm perceiving with my senses in three-dimensional reality is fooling me into the illusion of separation. Time is the separation between two points of consciousness, so you could actually shorten the distance between the thought of what you want and the experience of having it.
- SPSpeaker
Wow. One of the most sought after speakers in the world. New York Times best-selling author. A pioneer in emerging science and spirituality. Dr. Joe Dispenza. Please give a warm welcome to Dr. Joe Dispenza. [audience applauding] [audience cheering] They're telling me I'm gonna be paralyzed either way, you know, so why don't I roll the dice, right? And just take a chance. There's a intelligence that's giving me life, okay? I- it's a consciousness. It must be aware of me, and- And you essentially had a pact with consciousness, God, the universe, and said, "If I'm healed, I will commit my life to this." Yeah. I was educated. I knew a lot about the spine. I'm talking to orthopedic surgeons that are telling me, "You're never gonna walk again." There's energy for miracles. We see them all the time. There's energy for healing. Yes.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
We see it all the time. There's energy for the mystical. We see it all the time.
- SPSpeaker
Yeah, yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And you collapse time and space, and when you do that, then the synchronicities, serendipities, the coincidences, the opportunities start to prove to you that you're actually the creator of your life instead of the victim of your life. If your vision is to be wealthy, if your vision is to be in love, if your vision is to be, I don't know, whatever it is, to have a mystical experience, and you're here. I tell my kids this from the time they were little.
- SPSpeaker
I'm so excited about this episode with Dr. Joe Dispenza. He is one of our biggest guests of all time with over 55 million views on our videos. So if you like this, make sure to share it with one friend and leave a like or a comment below. Also, big announcement, Dr. Joe is a keynote speaker at this year's Summit of Greatness in Los Angeles in September. Make sure you get your tickets. The link is below, or you can go to summitofgreatness.com to see Dr. Joe live. Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have the inspiring Dr. Joe Dispenza in the house. Good to see you once again, my friend.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Great to be with you, Lewis, as always.
- SPSpeaker
Very excited. I was telling you beforehand that our interviews on YouTube have done over 55 million views together over the last five years since we've had you on many different interviews.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
How many interviews have I done?
- SPSpeaker
Probably five, I'm assuming.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Wow.
- SPSpeaker
Four or five. Um, and maybe six. I don't know. But people love when you're on here. Um, I've been to your event, seven-day, week-long event that is incredible, and the things I witnessed there within myself about how my mind and my body transformed was so powerful, and the things I witnessed from others were extremely powerful. We're gonna talk about some of that work that you're doing today. But I think people are just resonating with your message because they're confused about the world. They're confused about their mind. They're confused about their body. They're confused about the struggles and the challenges that they're facing on a day-to-day basis.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Mm-hmm.
- SPSpeaker
They wanna learn how to simplify their life. They wanna learn how to draw on their life, attract their desired future. They wanna learn how to manifest better. They wanna learn how to have a more peaceful, harmonious life. And they don't understand how to tap into the energy, the frequencies, the pharmaceutical healing powers within us, not outside of us.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Okay.
- SPSpeaker
'Cause we think it's all outside of us. And you talk about a lot of this. You have incredible bestselling books. We're gonna talk about the documentary as well. But before we get into how, what, and why people can start accessing these things, can you share, for people who maybe don't fully know your context of your story, how you even got into this, what you've discovered before, and what you're starting to discover now in terms of this work and this space?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Sure, sure. F- first of all, thank you-
- SPSpeaker
Of course
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... for all of that. Um, I think I just was raised in a family where I had two parents that were... My mother was first-generation Italian. My father was from Italy. And, um, they were very family-based, and they loved their children, and whatever interests that, that my brother and I had, they would, they would fully support and endorse. And so I was a curious kid, uh, but was also very Western, played, you know, sports just like everybody. Um, and then I, I read a book, uh, by Paramahansa Yogananda and when I was 19 years old, Autobiography of Yogi.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And, um, what intrigued me the most was I was raised in a very traditional Roman Catholic family, that there were other things happening that I was unaware of, these saints and these mystics in the book that had really powerful, um, effects on reality. Caused me to start thinking differently. And so I kind of got really super involved in yoga, super involved in martial arts. It was, it was unpredictable for me to do anything like that, but it somehow it piqued my interest. And then went through college, went through graduate school, uh, moved to San Diego, and, um, had a martial arts studio. I had a yoga studio.
- SPSpeaker
Really?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah. Um, and-
- SPSpeaker
Were you teaching yoga, or were you just in the studio?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah, I was teaching yoga w- in the '80s when people said-
- SPSpeaker
Come on
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... people said that you were gonna get possessed by yoga. Like, I had, like, I had challenges because nobody did yoga. So I had a yoga studio in, uh, right in Pacific Beach in San Diego. And, um, and I also, I also spent a lot of time studying hypnosis because I had roommates in, in college, uh, that were deep state, uh, somnambulists. They, they would, uh, sleep and talk to each other in their sleep the entire time.
- SPSpeaker
Really?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Uh, yeah, it was kinda weird.
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- 6:12 – 12:24
The Power of Hypnosis and Mind Over Matter
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And I'm like, "This, this, this could help me." You know? And it was really about hypnosis. So I started reading about hypnosis while I was taking 21 credits because what I wanted to do is I wanted to go to class and not have to take any notes.
- SPSpeaker
Hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
I wanted to-
- SPSpeaker
Right
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... to learn everything right in class so I didn't have to study, and then I could just replay the lecture, uh, by the end of the day, and I would remember as, remember as much as I could. So it required, you know, a little bit of programming for that.
- SPSpeaker
Hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Anyway, long story short, I took a good portion of my, my, uh, college loan and I went to a, a, a school that taught different levels of hypnosis, you know, from hypnotist all the way to c- uh, clinical hypnotherapist.
- SPSpeaker
Really?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
I put over 500 hours in in studying it, and I, and I started my own practice, and that's how I generated money to go to, to, to chiropractic college. And, and, um, I started witnessing some pretty amazing changes in people, like right before my eyes. Like, there was some power to the mind that I saw. The effects were taking place right in front of me, which of course piqued my interest again.
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
I got decent at the fact that I didn't have to take any notes, uh, when I went to school, and, um, and ran a clinical practice. And then, and then when I m- when I moved from Atlanta to San Diego to start my life after I'd graduated, uh, I, I, uh, started doing triathlons, and that was kind of the hotbed where triathlons were.
- SPSpeaker
San Diego, SoCal.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
San Die- yeah, Southern California. I sponsored all the 10K races in, in, uh, in San Diego. And, and then I was ... I w- I w- was in a triathlon and I got run over by a truck, and I broke six vertebrae in my spine, and the prognosis was pretty bad.
- SPSpeaker
How old are you at this time now?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
I was probably 24 years old.
- SPSpeaker
Okay.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
It was 1986. Uh, 24, 23 years old. And, and, uh, the typical surgical procedure for something like that is pretty radical. And, and I've talked about this on your show, but they wanted to put long rods in my spine.
- SPSpeaker
Oh, okay.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
The length of my spine pretty much because the six vertebrae were right in the middle of my spine, T8, T9, T10, T11, T12, and L1. And, and the top one had broken more than 60%, compressed more than 60%, and the neural arch was broken like a pretzel-
- SPSpeaker
Hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... you know. So anyway, that, the, you dr- you, you know, you drill the rods in and it cantilevers the spine, you know, the, the spinal column off the spinal cord.
- SPSpeaker
There's not much flexibility in that afterwards.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You, you know, that was my big thing, right? Because I, we had four opinions-
- SPSpeaker
Hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... from four of the leading surgeons, and they were all saying, "Surgery, surgery, surgery." In 1986, um, you really just didn't tell a doctor you weren't gonna have surgery. In fact, they thought I had a head injury when I was saying I don't wanna have the surgery. But I thought, "Listen, I'm not going anywhere. I'm not doing anything. They're gonna tell me, they're telling me I'm gonna be paralyzed either way, you know? So why don't I roll the dice, right, and just take a chance?" There's a intelligence that's giving me life, okay? It, it's a consciousness. It must be aware of me, and conscious, uh, uh, uh, when you're conscious, you're aware. When you're aware, you're paying attention. When you're paying attention, you're present. So if it's a consciousness, it's present with me, so I gotta get present with it. I gotta give it a plan. I give it a design. I gotta give it a very specific orders. And then I gotta surrender 'cause I can't do it. It, this in- intelligence knows how to heal way better than I do. Anyway, theoretically, it sounds really good, but I couldn't get my mind to do what I wanted it to do.
- SPSpeaker
Hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
It just kept going to the worst case scenario. I'm gonna live in a wheelchair for the rest of my life. I, should I sell my practice? Should I sell my home? I'm never gonna walk again, you know. And I couldn't control my mind. Uh, and that was the part that really intrigued me the most because I had s- I read the book where the mystics were doing all these kind of incredible miracles and healings and, and I saw s- witnessed some of the powers of the mind when I was doing hypnosis, and I knew I had to get beyond my analytical thinking mind to get into the operating system to make a change, and I couldn't control my mind then. It was a dark night of the soul for me because I kept going to the worst case scenario-
- SPSpeaker
Hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... instead of the w- the future that I wanted. And I think when we're pressed in stress or survival, you always prepare for the worst, right?
- SPSpeaker
Yes.
- 12:24 – 18:34
A Journey of Healing and Transformation
- SPSpeaker
the universe, and said, "If I'm healed, I will commit my life to this."
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah. If this works-
- SPSpeaker
Yeah
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... if what I... 'Cause, you know, I, I was educated, I knew a lot [laughs] about the spine, you know?
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And they're... I'm talking to orthopedic surgeons that are telling me, "You're never gonna walk again." And, and I'm talking to orthopedic surgeons that are telling me, you know, "You don't have much flexibility in your spine." And I'm thinking, "You may not have any flexibility in your spine, but I have a whole lot more flexibility than you do," right?
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And so I had to weigh what I knew against what I didn't know, and that, I think that's really that moment. It was a... That's the dark night of the soul, right?
- SPSpeaker
Interesting.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
'Cause you, you can't, you can't ask anybody their opinion, 'cause they're not you, and nobody gets you but you, because you're the one that has to make the choice, right? So I had a lot of sleepless nights, a lot of lonely nights, you know? And, um, when I started noticing those changes, then my belief in what I was doing was just amplified by tenfold. In other words, I wasn't dreading doing it any longer. I was looking forward to doing it, because I knew something was changing, you know? So all I needed was one thing, just notice. As soon as I noticed that one thing change, I'm like, "Okay. Whatever I, whatever I'm doing is starting to work." Now I had more ambition, more passion, more presence, more clarity, more intention, um, more creativity, and I can con- I was able to control my mind a lot better. So when I got back on my feet, I was like a different person.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
I mean, the, the, the homes and the cars and the, you know, the money and all that stuff, it just wasn't as important to me any longer, because I was, like, on my feet again. Like, I just wanted to sit at the table with my buddies and have dinner. I just wanted to take a shower.
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Like, you know, I wanted to use the toilet. Like, I just wanted to do... I wanted to watch the sun set. I mean, I wasn't taking anything for granted. Like, if I duffed a shot on the golf course, I'd be like, "Who the hell cares?"
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
I was just different. And I couldn't go back to my same life any longer.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
'Cause I was not the same guy. I'd been initiated in a lot of ways. And, and I was taking information that was kind of theoretical and, and philosophical, um, and, and really just speculating on, uh, is it possible, right? And I just, I just... When I produced those effects, I thought, uh, "Oh my God, I, I can't go back to my life any longer. I'm a different person." So I moved to the Pacific Northwest, and I wondered for the longest time what happened to me. Like, what, what exactly... How did it... If it happened, how did that happen, you know? So there were no traditional textbooks-
- SPSpeaker
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... that were talking about any of this. And I used to go to University of Washington Library and sit there for hours trying to find information that would at least tell me, like, how it's possible that I could get vertebral height back after a compression fracture. Like, what... how is that possible?
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
What is, what is... I- if bones are made of proteins, how were genes signaled? If I changed my mind, how did I change my mind? If my mind did affect my body, how did my mind affect my body? And if I, and I have to pay attention in order to do that, you know, what is the process of paying attention? So I'd sold everything, and I just, I bought a ranch, raised my kids out in the country. We, drank water out of the ground. We had our gardens, you know, it was just kind of a cool time. And I had a lot of time on my hands to think, you know, a lot of time. So I was investigating all these ideas, and I couldn't find it in the traditional models. I found it more in neuroplasticity and neuroendocrinology and psychoneuroimmunology, the mind-body connection. Epigenetics, what's that? You know? Electromagnetism, quantum. Like, you... I remember reading something that said you cannot explain a cut, the physiology of a cut, without a quantum understanding of reality. And I thought, "Well, that's really interesting," because the mechanistic model says it's charges and then, you know, it's molecules. And it's not like that at all. It's something else. And so I, I embarked on this journey, and then I thought, "God, are there are other people that ever had similar experiences that I had-
- SPSpeaker
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... that couldn't, that healed their body in some way?" And that's when I started studying spontaneous remissions. And so I traveled to over 17 different countries and interviewed people that were treating conventionally or unconventionally, they were staying the same or getting worse, and all of a sudden they got better.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And I wanted to know what the cause was that produced that effect. Now-
- SPSpeaker
Of the spontaneous remission?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Of the spontaneous remission.
- SPSpeaker
Or would that be called a, a healing?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Quantum healing, whatever you wanna call it.
- 18:34 – 24:40
A Moment of Change and Healing
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
uh, that was giving them life. And, um, they thought that they could interact with it and connect with it. So I was curious because I believed that as well, and that was a commonality. The second thing that was really fascinating was that they changed. Um, they said, "Okay, if I have six months to live, um, if I only have a certain amount of... If I, if I actually healed tomorrow, how would I live? If I, if I had another chance, how would I live? I'm gonna start living that way." Or, um, "If I only have six months to live, do I really wanna be an attorney? No. Mm-hmm. I wanna be an artist." And they just changed. And I think, you know- Hmm ... really interesting because I think when you, when they understood that if they, on some level at the end, when you changed, when they changed, they healed, right? So, and then I started studying the idea of the personality, right? Hmm. Your personality, how you think, how you act, and how you feel. Keep thinking the same way, keep acting the same way, keep feeling the same way. Your personality's the same. Your body and your life is the same, and nothing changes in our life until we change. Hmm. Right? And so these people started, when they reached that lowered, lowest denominator, where the chemo wasn't working and the radiation wasn't working, the drug trial wasn't working, the surgeries didn't work, and the diet didn't work, and, uh, you know, the yoga didn't work, and the ayahuasca or whatever it was, the psilocybin, LSD didn't work. They still were dealing with their health condition. There was a moment where they were like, they were, they, nothing was making that feeling of emptiness go away. Hmm. Nothing, that, that disturbance, that discomfort, nothing was making it go away. And I think when you're at that point, um, you can see yourself clearly through the eyes of someone else because you don't feel like you any longer, right? So you can pay attention to how you're thinking. You can notice, you know, how you're, you've been acting for the last 20 years. Hmm. Choices you've been making. And you can look at the feelings that you've been feeling your entire life, and I think that is the moment we become conscious of our unconscious self, which is, for the most part, programmed to be 95% of who we are- Hmm, hmm ... in terms of our attitudes, our beliefs, our perceptions, our unconscious habits and behaviors, and our kind of redundant and automatic emotional responses, right? So 95% is subconscious, right? So- Wow ... the first step is becoming conscious of the unconscious self, and that's not comfortable because you gotta light a match in a dark place, and you gotta come up against yourself, right? And so they, on some level, they broke the habit of being themselves, and they realized that the emotions that they were living by really weren't loving to them. The anger, the resentment, they were just like, "I, uh, I can't hold onto this any longer." And I think the stronger the emotion we feel towards some past event or some circumstance in our life, the more we pay attention to it, right? And where you place your attention is where you place your energy. And, and, and you're managing your attention and energy to some person or some circumstance or some past event, you're giving your power away, right? So build your field, build your, take your power back, take your attention off that person, overcome the emotion. You free your body from the past because the emotion really is just a record of the past. So I, I saw that the majority of the emotions that these people were living by, that they changed, were the emotions that were derived from the hormones of stress. Hmm. And when you're living in stress, you're living in survival and anger and aggression and hatred and, and of, uh- Jealousy ... jealousy and envy and insecurity- Yeah ... and fear and anxiety and worry and, uh, vigilance and hopelessness and powerlessness and guilt and shame and unworthiness. They're... And, uh, entitlement, importance, control, the, uh, competition. They're all derived- Hmm ... really, and driven by these hormones of stress. And so turns out that the, it's really s- hard to stop feeling those emotions because they're like an addiction. The arousal that's created from living in that emergency state consumes an enormous amount of the body's energy for some threat or some danger in the outer environment, and there's no energy in the inner environment for growth and repair. And the long-term effects of living in survival, and remember, stress is when your brain and body are knocked out of homeostasis. It's knocked out of balance. So long-term effects- Wow ... of living in that chronic state of stress, the body's constantly in imbalance, and that imbalance becomes a new balance. Now the person's headed for disease, 'cause no organism can live in survival or emergency for an extended period of time. It'll consume all its energy. There's no vital force for growth and repair, for long-term building projects. Wow. So I started s- really studying really what stress does. And you know, you could have the perfect diet and take all the vitamins and all the peptides and time it all, and you can do, you know, high-intensity- Put them in a bathtub and then just leave it ... training and fasting and yoga- 10 hours of sleep a [laughs] ... and massage and chiropractic and acupuncture. But if you're living in constant fear emotionally, and you're thinking about your problems, and your thought about your problems is turning on the same stress response as if you're being chased by a lion- Hmm ... or your reaction to a coworker is producing the same chemical change as if there were some threat in your environment, what was once very adaptive becomes very maladaptive, because turning on that stress response and never giving the body a chance to turn it off, to bring it back into balance, is disease. So I s- discovered that, like, people get addicted to the rush- Wow ... of these chemicals, and they use the problems and conditions in their life to reaffirm their addiction to that emotion. Ugh. And on some level, they become addicted to the life they don't even like, and that's why it's really hard to change. Because when you break an addiction, you go through cravings, and the, the addiction is when the body has been conditioned to be the mind. And it's looking for its familiar chemistry, for an arousal that takes away the f- the, the, the, whatever it is the person's feeling in terms of emptiness or whatever. So I got fascinated
- 24:40 – 30:40
The Power of Forgiveness and Change
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
because if you can turn the, on the stress response just by thought alone, and the long-term effects down-regulate genes and create disease, then our thoughts can make us sick. And I was like, "Oh my God, these people realized innately that when they forgave..." What is forgiveness? When I discovered it was just overcoming the emotion.
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You just finish the emotion and, and now, um, you, you, you have wisdom, 'cause the memory without the emotional charge is called wisdom. And when you overcome the emotion, you no long- no longer have your attention on that person or problem, and it's all okay, right? So free the body from the chains of the past and it can become renewed again.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And so it was very interesting to see that, uh, many, many of these people, without knowing it or not, stopped signaling the same genes in the same way when they overcame that emotional state. They were like, "I, I hate my job. I hate my relationship. I- I'm gonna just make choices. If I only have six months to live-
- SPSpeaker
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... I'm gonna live happy.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Like, I don't wanna live unhappy."
- SPSpeaker
I'm gonna choose to live happy.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
I'm choosing, right?
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And if you're choosing, you're changing.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And if you're not choosing, you're not changing. If you're not changing, you're not choosing, right? So they made a choice, and the hardest part about change is not making the same choice as you did the day before.
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And get ready, the moment you do, you can intellectualize, but it's gonna be uncomfortable. It's gonna be unpredictable. It's gonna be unfamiliar. There's gonna be some uncertainty. You're getting... You're stepping into the unknown. And if the addiction of those emotions where the body's been conditioned to be the mind, the body starts telling the mind to return back to the known.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Start tomorrow. You're a failure. It's your mother's fault. You were abused. Um, there's, I need a brain scan. There's something's wrong here. This isn't right. You know, all of the voices come up because the body's wanting you to think the same way so you can make the same choice, so you can do the same thing, so you can create the same experience, so you can feel the same emotion, return back to that familiar place.
- SPSpeaker
Why does the body want you to stay in a familiar place of fear and stress when it's not the most optimal place to be in this physical world?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
I think, I think it, because the emotions cause us to see the future through the lens of the past, 'cause the emotion is a record of the past. So you're always planning for the worst thing to happen when you're in that state. So, so the body has been conditioned to be the mind. The servant is the master, and the program's like, you know, how do you open a doorknob? Well, you may not consciously remember, but you'd go, "Oh, you do it this way." Well, your body knows how to do it better than your conscious mind.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
It's 95% of who we are is those automatic behaviors-
- SPSpeaker
Yes
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... emotional responses. So, so, so epigenetic says the environment signals the gene. But the end product of an experience in the environment is an emotion. So the body's so objective that when it's living in an emotional state, it's believing it's living the same past experience 24 hours a day. So not knowing it consciously, the person, when they surrendered the emotion and they overcame the emotion, they no longer signal the same genes in the same way. If they're no longer behaving the same way, there's behavior-dependent genes that are no longer sign- uh, signaled.
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
There are experience-dependent genes. If you stop having the same experiences, you'll stop s- uh, signaling those same genes. And genes make proteins. And proteins are responsible for the structure and function of your body, and the expression of proteins is the expression of life. So without knowing it, they changed.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
They became so conscious of their unconscious thoughts, behaviors, and emotions that they wouldn't go unconscious to that m- in their waking day. They knew that, that that old self had to be retired.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- 30:40 – 36:29
Creating a Future Life of Gratitude and Joy
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
and frustration any longer.
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
I wanna feel gratitude. I wanna feel joy. I wanna feel inspired. I wanna be in love. These are the feelings I wanna create. Can I teach my body emotionally what that future life looks like before it happens? And this was where it got really exciting for me, because they weren't visualizing their disease going away. They weren't doing their inward work to heal. They were doing their inward work to change.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And when they changed, they healed, right?
- SPSpeaker
Interesting.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So if a belief is just a thought you keep thinking over and over again until it's hardwired and your brain's automatic, right? So their belief is that they can't, can't heal. Now, could I install a new belief, and can I keep remembering that belief-
- SPSpeaker
Interesting
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... and keep firing and wiring, and if I keep firing and wiring, I'm gonna install the hardware. If I keep doing it over and over again, a- after I'm firing and wiring new circuits and I have the hardware, will the circuits fire easier the more I do it and become more like a software program?
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Could that be the new belief, the new voice in my head that says I can heal? Do I wanna believe this or I wanna believe this, right? So with intention and with attention, they kept reminding themselves what they did wanna believe. In other words, they kept remembering to think that way, and if you keep doing it over and over again, of course, that's a belief, so.
- SPSpeaker
What do you... But before you go on there, what is, what do you think is the belief that holds most people back in the world?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Uh, their, their belief in themselves. I mean-
- SPSpeaker
Their lack of belief or their belief-
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah, the lack of belief in themselves. I mean, for you to truly believe-
- SPSpeaker
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... in possibility-
- SPSpeaker
Yeah
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... a new possibility, you better believe in yourself.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And if you're gonna believe in yourself, if you believe in yourself, you gotta believe in a new possibility. You can't do one without the other.
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So again, going from the old self to the new self and changing that belief, you come up against that belief that says you can't. It's too hard. You'll never change. Nobody else has done this. Whatever it is, right?
- SPSpeaker
I've heard you say many times at your retreats, but also on here before, that your personal, or your personality is your personal reality.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Right.
- SPSpeaker
I think that's what you've said.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah.
- SPSpeaker
And so when you're... If I'm getting that right, your personality is your personal reality, and if your belief in self is limiting or limited and a lower frequency or doubting constantly, then that's gonna become your personal reality, it sounds like.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah. You'll have a lot of reasons to doubt in your life.
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm.
- 36:29 – 42:39
The Power of Thoughts in Creating the Future
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
your brain creates a holographic image, a picture, and you're selecting a new possibility. And you're like, "I can do that. Like, I, that's possible." That's the... You're selecting a new possibility, right? That's the creative center. It's, it's an unknown, and for the passionate person- That thought in their mind literally becomes the experience and the end product of the experience is the emotion. So the person who's seeing that future and all of a sudden feels the empowerment, the success, the abundance, the gratitude from the healing, it's that thought and that feeling, it's that image and that emotion, it's that stimulus and that response that's conditioning the body to emotionally be in the future. Now think about this.
- SPSpeaker
Hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
If you're feeling the feelings of your future as if it's already happened.
- SPSpeaker
Wow.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
If your body is feeling the emotion of your future like it's already happened, you won't be looking for it. You only look for it when you feel like it hasn't happened. When it's already happened, you're no longer looking for it, which means you're no longer separate. And that's-
- SPSpeaker
Wow
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... when people started having really powerful changes. So I started studying the frontal lobe and the frontal lobe's like a volume control. When it switches on and you assign meaning to an act, if I said, "Lewis, if you did this," like whatever it is, "If you did this," and I can tell you all the reasons, all the benefits, and I can give you the what and the why. And you go, "I got it, I got it, I got it." And I showed you how. The moment you got the how, if you understood the what and the why, you would assign meaning to the task.
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And the frontal lobe switches on and it wants the intentional outcome. It doesn't want a half an outcome, it wants the outcome, and it's gonna keep doing it until it shortens the distance between the thought and the experience, right? So somehow this frontal lobe would switch on and lower the volume, the circuits in the brain that cause you to process your body, to feel your body, to be aware of anything in your environment and what your environment made of, objects and people and bodies and things and places, and not be thinking about the future or the past. You're so locked in the present moment that space and time somehow change.
- SPSpeaker
Hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And their inner world becomes more real than their outer world. And it was fascinating because when they came back on some level, they felt differently. So anyway, so I wrote a book about it, um, called Evolve Your Brain: The Science of Changing Your Mind, in a very heady, very academic. And I think when you write your first book, you write to your biggest critics, right?
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And, um, and then there were some, um, documentaries that came out and people were starting to ask really important questions.
- SPSpeaker
Hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Like the theory and the philosophy was really good, but people started saying to me, "Okay, um, if your thoughts have something to do with your future or your life, um, how do you do it? Like how do you do it?" And then the second question was, "If my personality creates my personal reality and I gotta change my, uh, personality to change my personal reality, why is it so hard to change?" I mean, I mean, if, uh... and most people try to create a new personal reality as the same personality, it doesn't work.
- SPSpeaker
Hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So how do I change so my life changes? And I thought, "What a great question." And I saw that it wasn't as easy to change as we, as we think, right?
- SPSpeaker
[laughs] Right.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You could say on Monday morning you're gonna stop cursing and stop complaining.
- SPSpeaker
Yeah, good luck.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And then by 3:00 in the afternoon, you're unconscious.
- SPSpeaker
Son of a [laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You've defaulted back to the old self, right? And that's that how many times do I have to forget-
- SPSpeaker
Uh-huh
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... and go unconscious till I stop forgetting and start remembering. I mean, if you wanna be happy, really happy in your life, you gotta stop complaining, 'cause complaining doesn't make you feel happy.
- SPSpeaker
Hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
If you wanna be happy, you can't judge another person, 'cause the judgment is not gonna make you feel happy. So you gotta... The, that, that, anything that's not love in you must die.
- SPSpeaker
Hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You know, I mean, or-
- SPSpeaker
Wow
- 42:39 – 48:47
Witnessing the Tremors
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
I don't have any tremors. Um, I'm out of my wheelchair [laughs] and they're dancing around." And, and I, I was, I was... I think I was more surprised than anybody. Like, I was really super surprised. what was taking place. I was, was witnessing something happening right before my eyes, and I kept saying, "Something's gotta be... There must be an inner event that's going on there, that inside that person that is so real, so transcendental that it's changing their biology and they're up-regulating genes for health and they're down-regulating genes for, for disease, and something's going on in their brain, something's going on in their body." And so that's when I changed everything. That's when I said, "Okay, we're gonna stop doing these weekend events and we're gonna do a four-day event. One evening and four full days, and we're gonna do scientific measurements. We're gonna measure brains-
- SPSpeaker
Wow
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... before the event and brains after the event.
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And I wanted to see that the changes weren't just in their mind. I wanted to know that they were in their brains. So we hired, I brought a team of neuroscientists together. We did a lot of quantitative EEGs, and then I did something really interesting and we started measuring brains in real time, so I could see their brains while the meditation was going on. And, um, and then we... If, if it requires a clear intention, that's a function of a coherent brain, and an elevated emotion, which is a function of the heart, okay?
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Let's see if we can change the brain and heart in really specific ways. So in the beginning, we partnered with HeartMath Institute and we did a lot of analysis on HRV, and we wanted people to be able to sustain heart coherence not just for five minutes, but for 45 minutes. I wanted it to become a skill. I want-
- SPSpeaker
What is heart coherence, for people that don't know?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Okay. So I'll tell you what heart incoherence is first, and then I'll tell you what heart coherence is.
- SPSpeaker
[laughs] Okay.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So if you're living in stress, and you're living in survival, and there's a physiological change in your body when you perceive a threat or a danger in your outer world, or you have the perception that something's gonna get worse, and that automatic or autonomic system switches on, and there's an arousal that takes place and there's a rush of adrenaline, and your heart rate starts to, to increase, and your respiratory rate starts to increase, and blood is sent to the extremities, away from the internal organs, and glucose is being mobilized, and you're getting a lot of energy to run, fight, or hide. But let's just say that you're in this, on a Zoom call, and you're reacting to a coworker-
- SPSpeaker
Hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... in the same way you would fight off a predator.
- SPSpeaker
Hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And your heart is beating, but you're not exerting yourself, so the heart starts beating against a closed system. It's like pumping against restricted system and-
- SPSpeaker
Your body's not moving.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Right.
- SPSpeaker
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And, and so there, you're not, you're not, you're not using that energy.
- SPSpeaker
Not transforming it into the energy.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Right. You're sitting there. You're stepping on the gas and the brake at the same time.
- SPSpeaker
Ooh.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And the heart's beating against a closed system, and it starts beating very r- uh, out of order, very erratically, and it starts, it starts y- losing its variability in terms of its beat. And, and when that, when the heart gets incoherent, if you study any type of waves, when waves are incoherent and they interfere with each other, they cancel each other out. And when waves cancel each other out, energy drops. So, so energy-
- SPSpeaker
Hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... leaves the heart when you're resentful, when you're impatient, when you're judgmental, when you're frustrated. No doubt about it, your heart's beating differently than when you're grateful, when you're appreciative, when you're kind, when you're caring, when you're loving, when you're inspired. The heart is moving out of survival, and we discovered that the heart is the creative center.
- SPSpeaker
Hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And when the heart, when energy moves into the heart, and you're breathing and you're converting your body out of that fight or flight nervous system, that sympathetic system, if you can convert it into the parasympathetic system, that nervous system of relaxation, the heart can come out. It's no longer, it's no longer living in survival or stress. And energy naturally moves into the heart, and the heart starts beating in this beautiful rhythm, like beating a drum or dropping a pebble after pebble after pebble in the water, water. And the heart starts to emit an external field, a magnetic field. But what we discovered that was even more exciting was that once energy drops into the heart, the, the heart, the creative center, resets the baseline for the emotional trauma in the past and tells the brain the, the past is over, and that's the moment it sends a very strong signal to the brain and the brain moves into a very creative state. Frontal lobe and the al-
- SPSpeaker
Hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... alpha brain waves are created, and now you're starting to seeing images and pictures. The heart's telling the brain it's safe to create. And so the-
- SPSpeaker
Wow
- 48:47 – 54:37
The Brain in an Aroused State
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
is created when you can't control something.
- SPSpeaker
Hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You can't predict something, or you have the perception that something in your life's gonna get worse and this alarm system switches on. And now what we try to do- ... is we try to control and predict and manage everything in our life. So the arousal causes the brain to go into a super alert state. We become materialists and we narrow our focus, we get over-focused, and we shift our attention from one person to another person to another problem to another thing to another-
- SPSpeaker
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... place to another meeting. And every one of those elements in your life is mapped neurologically as a neurological network in the brain. So shift your attention in an aroused state to one person to another person to another person to another problem to another thing to another place, like a lightning storm in the clouds, the brain starts firing its compartments and its modules out of order. Measure the brain when it's like that, and it's really incoherent.
- SPSpeaker
It's chaos.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
It's chaos. And when the brain's incoherent, we're incoherent, right? When the brain's not working right, we're not working right. When we're in stress, then we become obsessive. You- when you're in stress, you're over-focusing. You're very narrow-focused-
- SPSpeaker
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... and you're over-focusing on whatever that issue or that problem is, and it's consuming all of your attention, right? So we discovered then if we could teach people to go from that narrow focus, and because stress causes us to become materialists, if there's a predator behind the rock, you freeze and you narrow your focus on the cause, and you're looking at the material world.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You're looking at matter. You're looking at the particle because in survival, that's where your attention should be, on your body, on your environment, and on time. In other words, if T-Rex is chasing you-
- SPSpeaker
Right
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... you better be thinking about your body.
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You better be thinking about where you're gonna run in your environment w- or what object or thing you can hide behind.
- SPSpeaker
To get to safety. Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Right. And you're gonna be thinking about how much time it's gonna take me to get from here to there, right?
- SPSpeaker
You need to be in the 3D world.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You're immersed in the 3D world, and the senses are heightened because that's where the threat and danger is. So all of our attention and energy goes in the 3D world, and now we're victims to however the 3D world plays out, right? And so we're matter trying to change matter on some level. When the brain is firing out of order like that and the more incoherent it gets, the more incoherent or dysregulated the autonomic nervous system gets. And stress is autonomic dysregulation, so-
- SPSpeaker
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... the autonomic nervous system controls and coordinates all other systems. So your heart moves out of balance. You can have arrhythmias, tachycardia. Your digestive system, it's not a time to digest-
- SPSpeaker
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... when you're living in stress and survival.
- SPSpeaker
Right.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So your digestive juices shut down. Um, you know, your coordination of enzymatic release changes, your sensitivities to things because your response to the environment is weakening the organism. Blood goes to the hindbrain and away from the forebrain, so you're more reactive. Your immune system dials way down because all the energy's gone for the outer world. All the energy is going to the extremities and muscles, so you get tightness and soreness 'cause you're not exerting yourself.
- SPSpeaker
Wow.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
It's not a time to procreate. It's not a time to make a baby. All those, all those systems that require long-term projects, um, are, are shut down. We discovered, uh, during this process, if we could teach people to do the exact opposite.
- SPSpeaker
[laughs] Right.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
To take their attention off of everything physical, off their body-
- SPSpeaker
Uh-huh
- 54:37 – 1:00:46
The Illusion of Separation in Three-Dimensional Reality
- SPSpeaker
with my senses the biggest limitation I have? Uh, and I think this is from The Habit of Being Yourself.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah, so, um, the probability that we're seeing the truth of reality-
- SPSpeaker
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... is zero.
- SPSpeaker
[laughs] Wait, wait. What does that mean? Say that again, and what does that mean?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
The probability that you and I are perceiving all of reality is zero.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
We are looking at a small frequency of light. The spectrum of visible light, red, orange, yellow, blue, green, indigo, violet, that rainbow of light, that's a small spectrum in the huge electromagnetic field, right? All those different frequencies. We got this small little bandwidth. Look at, look in a physics book or any book or Google it. Mm-hmm. And you'll see the wavelength of light, this tiny little, tiny little band in this huge number of frequencies there are in the universe. That, that small band of frequency, the light that's coming from the sun, the light that's coming from these lights, they're, that light is bouncing off the most stable form of energy. In this room, right? Yeah. Matter- Yes ... is the most stable form of energy. Yes. And it's fooling us into the illusion of separation. Mm. So now I'm consciousness. You're consciousness. How do I know I'm consciousness? 'Cause I'm aware, right? But in the three-dimensional reality, right, I'm, I'm conscious, but what I'm conscious also is me, of me, and everything else that exists in three-dimensional reality I'm conscious that I'm separate of. I'm separate from the cameras, I'm separate from you, I'm separate from this table. Everything that I'm perceiving with my senses in three-dimensional reality is fooling me into the illusion of separation. So in three-dimensional reality, our senses plug us into that reality. Take away your sight, take away your hearing, take away your smell, take away your taste, take away your feeling with your body, you would have no experience of three-dimensional reality, but yet it could still exist. Mm. But you're unaware of it. So then here I am local in space and time, and everything is height and depth and width, and th- I'm into this illusion of separation, and in this realm of three-dimensional reality there's an infinite amount of space. Space is eternal. In fact, it's accelerating, right? So the way we experience everything in three-dimensional reality is we do things. So if I want to go from here, uh, to my car to get something, I have the thought, I'm Joe Dispenza, I'm local in space and time, I'm separate from everyone and everything, I'm aware, and I, my awareness goes to my car. Mm-hmm. So now I have another point of awareness, another point of consciousness. I have a thought, and I wanna have an experience. And the only way I'm gonna have the experience in three-dimensional reality, as far as I know, to get to my car is I'm gonna have to get up and move my body through space from one point of consciousness to another point of consciousness, from the cause to the effect, from the thought to the experience. And as I move through space, that's called time. So time is the separation between two points of consciousness. So everything that we create in this three-dimensional reality takes time- Mm-hmm ... and it takes energy. So then there's you. You have a dream. You're aware that you're here. I'm local in space and time in this moment, and I wanna have this dream of going on a vacation or having, making- Mm ... millions of dollars or getting a perfect partner, whatever that is, and your brain naturally puts that vision of your future, and it estimates two years down the road or three years down the road. Why? 'Cause you gotta save money. Mm-hmm. You gotta sacrifice. You gotta work extra hours. You gotta cheat a little bit. You gotta lie a little bit. You gotta compete a little bit. If you're matter trying to change matter, and, and you want this experience in three-dimensional reality, it's gonna take a lot of time and energy 'cause your brain's gonna say, "I know you." It's gonna take a lot of doing back and forth- Mm-hmm ... until you finally have the experience, and when you have the experience, the emotion that's created from the experience takes away the lack or separation from not having it. Mm-hmm. So in three-dimensional reality, we create from lack or separation. You see someone with a sports car, you see someone with a wardrobe, and you look at it, and your brain automatically goes, "I want that because I don't have it." So we create in three-dimensional reality based on lack. And so the brains has the image, "I want one of those," it puts it in the future, and then we have to work really hard. And for matter trying to change matter, we force outcomes, we control outcomes, uh, we try to predict outcomes. Mm-hmm. We compete for outcomes, because there's o- only a certain number of resources that we can do in three-dimensional reality to get what we want. You can get really good at it after a while. You can get trained, you can get educated, you can learn from your mistakes. Yes. And sooner or later, you'll be able to accumulate a lot of things that take away a lot of lack for a lot of people, but the question is then, does it make them happy, right? [laughs] Right, right. So anyway, so- So that's the 3D. So that's the 3D world, right? Yes. So then, so then you, you, you see the wardrobe and you see the sports car, your brain creates the image, you come back to three-dimensional reality and it's not there, and you think it, we can't create reality because it didn't appear, right? Mm-hmm. And so, so then our belief that we are creators in our life has to be changed, right? And the only way you can change that belief is through experience, because experience is the best professor. So you said, you know, I, it's probably really hard to do that, because we call that getting beyond yourself. Mm-hmm. Well, think about it. If you're living by the addiction of the hormones of stress, and all of your attention is on your body, your environment, and time, and to change is to be greater than your body- Mm-hmm ... to be greater than your environment, and to be greater than time, then when you're addicted to the hormones of stress or you're living in stress, it's really hard to change. That's hard to do. It's really not a time to change. So we discovered, and we've looked at enough brain scans, that when you say, "I can't do this, it's too hard," instead
- 1:00:46 – 1:06:27
Stepping into the Unknown
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
of you getting up and quitting and saying, "I can't meditate," or, "This is not for me," that if you actually sit and you go past that thought, you're stepping into the unknown. Mm. If you catch yourself wandering to your cellphone or to your social media page or what your pet is doing or your spouse is doing, catch yourself, and you catch yourself doing that and going unconscious and return back to the present moment, you'll get really good at catching yourself from going unconscious. And you'll start getting really conscious.
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And [laughs] that you're bringing your attention back into the present moment, and that laboring for the present moment is the unknown. And so you teach a person how to do that, and, uh, and, and sooner or later they get good at it. So when we were doing the events-
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... we were doing these four-day events, we started measuring gene expression. We saw that people can change their gene expressions in four days. All good genes, you know, for antioxidants, for stem cells, for immune regulation, um, for neurogenesis. We saw that they can lengthen their telomeres, you know, their, change their biological age if they practice the work for 60 days. We saw that the majority of people, at the end of seven days, their brain was working better. We saw an enormous amount of change in anxiety and depression. How could you be anxious if you're not trying to predict the future anymore and you've, you've mastered the moment, right?
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And so people were thinking that they were doing their meditations wrong when their mind wandered, but they're actually doing it right, 'cause that's the process of being able to stay conscious and not go unconscious.
- SPSpeaker
To come back to it.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Right.
- SPSpeaker
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
We also discovered if I push a person past the point where they normally stop, you know, where they say, "I'm done," that's their, you know, that's their comfort.
- SPSpeaker
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
If I take them past that point, that's when the brain changes the most.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
That's when they have their ba- their biggest change.
- SPSpeaker
When they break through discomfort.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
When they, when they f- when they, when they get to the point where they're uncomfortable, and instead of giving up and saying, "This is too uncomfortable, I can't meditate," if I give them something to do, while they're doing that and they can reorganize that dissonance and create coherence in their brain and heart, that free energy that's been created by, by keep lowering the volume to the emotion and taking the attention off the person. The body wants to get up and do something and go, and you watch it wanting to be programmed and get up, and you bring it back to the present moment. You're training the animal, right?
- SPSpeaker
Yes.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You're training the animal self, right?
- SPSpeaker
Yeah, yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And that's overcoming the body, and it takes an enormous amount of energy, an enormous amount of awareness to do it. And yet, like training any animal, sooner or later when the body realizes it's no longer the mind, it surrenders.
- SPSpeaker
Yes.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
When that occurs, there's a huge liberation of energy, and energy naturally moves right into the heart. The body can relax into the unknown.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
The familiar past, when people are living by the same emotions every day because they're recalling a memory from their past and they feel the emotion-
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... associated with it, they're in the familiar past. If they're predicting the future and thinking about all the people they have to see and the places they have to go and the things they have to do at the exact same time, that predictable future is the known, the familiar past is the known. The only place where the unknown exists is the present moment.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So if the unknown is a scary place because it's been built into our biology, and you're, you've got to go against thousands of years of conditioning and work with your body. I'm telling you, there's a moment where the body finally surrenders. Energy moves to the heart. Once it goes to the heart, like a springboard, it's released right to the brain. The heart and the brain. The heart tells the brain to create, the forebrain switches on, and now the person starts thinking, "There's got to be another way. There's a new way," right? And, and it resets the baseline emotionally in the body to tell the body the event is over. So we started doing these f- four-day events, and we were getting all these great changes. And, and then we started seeing something really crazy happen. In the middle of a meditation when they were broadening their awareness and taking their attention off the particle, off matter-
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm
- 1:06:27 – 1:12:35
States of Consciousness
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
which plugs you into three-dimensional reality through your senses, the autobiographical self, the reflection of everything known in your environment, the repository of everything you've learned and experienced in your life, that, that brain goes into theta, lights are out in the personality.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And you're not aware of your body, your environment, and time. And in theta-
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... the brainwaves are so slow that energy moves out of the thinking brain and drops right into the limbic brain, the seat of the autonomic nervous system. Now, when you're in theta, you're in a hypnotic state. And when you're in a hypnotic state, you're suggestible to information, and suggestibility is your ability to accept the information, believe in the information, surrender to the information without analyzing whether it's the truth or not, and that's exactly what programs the autonomic nervous system-
- SPSpeaker
Interesting
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... to make the pharmacy of chemicals equal to the information the person is receiving.
- SPSpeaker
Wow.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So a hypnotist puts somebody in a state, they're in theta, and they can say, "Act like a chicken," or whatever it is, and the person takes that suggestion all the way in and, and it changes their behavior, right? But the person's in a meditation. They're in, they're in a suggestible state, but their eyes are closed. There's music filling the space. They're not eating, they're not tasting, they're not smelling, they're not moving around feeling with their body. But the door is open between the conscious mind and the subconscious mind. There's only one other place, one other place where you can get information from, and that's frequency. And we discovered when the brain is in a state of coherence, in a state of order, and the person is dialing down the thinking brain, all of a sudden there becomes an entrainment between that invisible field of energy- Mm ... that exists beyond our senses- Mm ... and the person's autonomic nervous system, which is like a tuning fork. And right on the top of the limbic brain, right, sitting right on top is this little antenna called the pineal gland. Mm-hmm. And it has these little crystals in it that are very sensitive to electromagnetic frequencies. Dial down the thinking brain, open the door between the conscious mind and the subconscious mind, energy falls back into the limbic brain. Teach a person how to stay relaxed, half asleep, let their body be asleep while they're awake. Tune into energy and frequency. Get their brain entrained, get their heart entrained to, to coherence. Sooner or later, there's a read, there's a match. And the moment there's a match and the energy is hitting that pineal gland, the entire limbic brain goes into these unbelievably high, high, high states of autonomic regulation. Now remember, stress is autonomic dysregulation. Yeah. But now we're talking about energy and forming matter, and the autonomic nervous system is moving into such high states of coherence and such a fast frequency that every single cell in the person's body is being informed with new information. And at, the effect of that is a biological upgrade. Like, there's the eczema, now it's gone. Yeah. There's a Parkinson's, now it's gone. There's a stage four cancer that was in the bones, that was in the organs, now it's gone. And there's the blindness, now the person's seeing. There's the muscular dystrophy, which is insane, uh, and now the person's out of their wheelchair. There's a myasthenia gravis, now it's gone. There's a spinal cord injury, there's a stroke. The person's all of a sudden took a bite of wholeness because that unifying field of energy, according to Bohm, is undivided wholeness. Mm. It's a frequency. It exists faster than the speed of light and equals- Wow ... MC squared. So anything that's material or physical that's vibrating or traveling at the speed of light is gonna turn into pure energy. It'll disappear. And when it disappears, you move into that realm where everything's connected, uh, the, everything is more orderly, everything is more whole, so their interaction with wholeness is being reflected in their biology. So we started seeing- Wow ... these elegant states, and then we started doing seven-day events because I was like, "If this is happening in four days, why don't we go to seven days?" Now we just did our 50th. I saw that. That's a cr- 50th week-long- It's incredible. I know. I spent the year of my life [laughs] Holy cow. Doing week, week-long events. So we did 50 week-long events, and now a scientist and friend of mine who's a medical doctor- Mm-hmm ... and a researcher, PhD, super intelligent, very well-trained empirical scientist, comes to one of our week-long events in Cancun, and he sees someone on the stage that was diagnosed with stage four cancer that metastasized to all, all of her organs in her body. And now all of a sudden she's on the stage. She was at an event two months earlier in Mallorca, now she came to Cancun. She's on the stage, and she said, "The doctors told me to go home and die. I tried everything. I tried all the drug trials, the, the chemos, the, the diets, da, da, da, and, um, I had a moment." And when people make that connection, the arousal that's taking place in the nervous system is not like the arousal from stress. It's not fear, it's not pain. Mm-hmm. It's not anger or aggression. The arousal is ecstasy. Like, a person has a moment where they do not have the words to describe this unfamiliar familiar feeling. It is the most familiar- Mm ... unfamiliar feeling. You for- you forget, you forgot that you were wholeness. Like, you remember, "Oh, I came from here." Like, it's this kind of moment. And the connection is not the love you feel when you see your puppy. Uh, it's- Right ... it's not the love you feel- Which is a good, it's a good kind of love, but yeah. It's, it's a def- you know, that's a lo- it's a kind of bonding- It's a 3D love, you know? [laughs] ... 3D chemical thing. This is electric. Yeah. This is, like, where you feel an arousal where you're connecting to some energy or frequency and the arousal is bliss. The, the arousal a- is pure love, it's ecstasy, and this is the moment where, um, the person's having an inner experience that is carrying an amplitude of energy that's greater than the betrayal- Mm-hmm ... the shock, the diagnosis, the abuse, the rape, whatever it was. It brings the body literally out of the past, right into the present moment. Mm. And the arousal comes with a release of brain chemistry that causes the person to have a very
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The Healing Power of Meditation
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
profound transcendental inner experience where it's more real than anything they've ever experienced in their life. And experience enriches the brain, so now their brain is getting rewired to some mystical moment, and then a signal that's being traveled to the body that's lifting the body with energy and light. And the body's... All disease is a lowering of frequency, an incoherent frequency. Mm-hmm. The body's getting a, a dose of order. It's getting a dose of high regulation. It's getting a dose of wholeness. And then the wholeness then is reflected. So this guy, who's a friend of mine, sees all of this, and he's a researcher at, a fellow at UC, UC San Diego. And I went to breakfast, and he was, like, right in my face. [laughs] And he runs 17 clinics in Southern California, and he's a brilliant dude. And he's like- Drug trial clinics. Drug, drug clinics, right? He runs... He's a physician. He runs pain clinics. Yeah. Gotcha. And, and for PTSD, and so, and all other kinds of pain And he was like, "I don't know. Like, we gotta start doing research." I said, "I've been doing research, monkey." He said, "No, no, no. We gotta do research, research, research."
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So that's when we partnered with UC San Diego.
- SPSpeaker
Uh-huh.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And that's when we started doing these seven-day events, and we've got probably the largest database in the world on meditation. So-
- SPSpeaker
Wow.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So when we take the blood of those people who have that connection, there's information in their blood that was not present before the week-long event.
- SPSpeaker
Hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
There's chemistry in their blood that's being transformed from information on frequency. It's being transduced into chemistry that somehow reflects greater health and greater order. So when we started doing the research with UCSD, and we saw the... The scientists were, by the way, extremely dubious. They were very skeptical.
- SPSpeaker
Yeah, yeah. They were skeptical, yeah, yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
They wouldn't even give me the handshake. You know, they just thought I was kind of a, you know, crazy dude. But I said to them, "Okay, 90% of the people think the same thoughts every day. Same thoughts, same memories, same thoughts. Same thoughts, same choices. Same choices, same behaviors. Same behaviors, same experiences. Same experiences, same feelings and emotions. Same emotions influence very same thoughts. Biology has to stay the same."
- SPSpeaker
Same outcomes.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Same outcomes. I give people new information, really have it be information that's based in science. It's the contemporary language of mysticism. Have them learn that information. Make it simple. But it's easier to forget it than it is to remember it, so you gotta teach it back to a person next to you. You gotta wire it in your brain. You gotta understand what you're doing and why you're doing it, right? Install the hardware. Nothing left to conjecture. Nothing left to superstition. Nothing left to talk about. Learn the information. You got new thoughts. To ge- to set up the conditions in the environment for people to apply it, to use it, to personalize it, make a different choice. Do something differently. Create some new experiences, feel new emotions. Will their biology change? And they were like, "Theoretically, yes." Well, they had no idea.
- SPSpeaker
Hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
After our first event we did with them, right before COVID, there were such dramatic changes in novice meditators that really never meditated before. They were just kind of like, "My, my husband told me to come. My wife told me to come. My coworker, my sister told me to come." And then experienced meditators as well. And when we took the b- plasma from those advanced meditators and we started experimenting with it, like they closed the lab because COVID happened. And we put the spike protein, the, the COVID virus, the pseudovirus, in the presence of the plasma of an advanced meditator, and did what's called an adoptive transfer. Put an ACE receptor cell, uh, a lung cell with an ACE receptor. That's where COVID usually enters. We saw that on electron microscope, both exterior and interior, that somehow the plasma of people who had those transcendental moments that were experienced meditators, the virus couldn't enter the cell. It was-
- SPSpeaker
It was defending it.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
It, it... The, the s- the cell was greater than the environment.
- SPSpeaker
Wow.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
In other words, there was some mechanism that was causing those furry little spike protei- proteins and viruses to stick to the outside of the cell. They couldn't get in. So then we did a bunch of experiments and we isolated a protein in the plasma of advanced meditators. That's information that was not there before the week-long.
- SPSpeaker
Wow.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
But was there at the end of the week-long, without taking any exogenous substance or adding, ingesting anything, changing their diet, taking a drug. All of a sudden, their blood has this information that's causing their body to be greater than their environment. There's an immunity that's taking place, and we found this little protein, and proteins come from genes. And somehow, novice meditators were upregulating thousands and thousands of metabolites in their blood-
- SPSpeaker
Hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... at the end of seven days to suggest that their body literally was living in a new environment, and they were in a ballroom.
- SPSpeaker
Right.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
The ballroom looks like a big sound booth. There's nothing really stimulating in a ballroom.
- SPSpeaker
Yeah, yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And without eating anything or taking any drugs or any pharmaceuticals or any vitamins or changing their diet or any therapies, their body was making a host of different chemicals and upregulating thousands of metabolites and genes to suggest that their body was literally li- living in a whole new life.
- SPSpeaker
Hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
When we take the plasma then of those people that have this kind of interaction with energy and frequency, and we put it in the presence of cancer cells, like a uterine cancer cell, [laughs] the, the, the, the mitochondrial function in the cancer cell, and the, you know, cancer cells love to move and multiply, and the mitochondria are the energy packets that cause them to do that. 70% of the mitochondrial function in the cancer cell, lights were out and, and took the energy out of the cancer cell. So we expanded the study to-
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Wow
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The Healing Power of Meditation
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
meditators, 84% had the same effect on mitochondrial function. That's more than eight out of 10 people. That's four to five people somehow are producing this anti-carcinogenic chemical.
- SPSpeaker
Wow.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Take the information in the blood, put it in the presence of an Alzheimer's gene that downregulates the gene for Alzheimer's. There's pro-life-
- SPSpeaker
Wow
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... pro growth in there. Take the plasma of advanced meditators at the end of seven days and look at their gene expression. Now, everybody in the 2,000 people, or 2,200, 2,500 people a week-long event has their own gene- genotype, right? Yours is different than mine. If you're a different race, it's different. Everybody has their own genotype. But at the end of seven days, 77% of the population is expressing the same genes and making the same proteins. In other words, the flock. The herd, the tribe-
- SPSpeaker
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... right? The, the, the school, the collective. There's an emergent consciousness when people behave the same way that's evolving their biology collectively-
- SPSpeaker
Wow
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... for the better, for the good. And so we started seeing, like, people reporting pain levels dropping from their health conditions. So we, we did a study with 63 different health conditions, one intervention, meditation. 63 different health conditions re- 100% of people reported a change in their energy, their fatigue, and their pain levels. So then we started looking. Is the body making natural pain relievers? And so we started s- looking at endogenous opiates. 100% of the people at the end of seven days were making their own endogenous opiates. In other words, they weren't taking morphine. They weren't taking, um, Percocet. And yet their body was making their own endogenous-
- SPSpeaker
Really?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... chemicals that reduce pain in 63 different health conditions. There's no drug that you give for 63 different health conditions that take, uh, uh, uh, like diseases that take away pain, so-
- SPSpeaker
Is that the mind influencing the cell, or is that the heart influencing the mind-
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
It's, it's-
- SPSpeaker
... to then transmit a pain relief?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
It-
- SPSpeaker
What is that?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah, so, so I think there's several... Great question. There's several factors involved. The heart produces opioids, and we practice.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
We practice sustaining heart coherence. We wanna get so good at doing it with our eyes closed we can do it with-
- SPSpeaker
Yeah
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... our eyes open, right? So-
- SPSpeaker
When you feel love, you feel free.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Right. And, and not only free, but you're totally okay with everybody.
- SPSpeaker
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
I-
- SPSpeaker
I love everything. Yeah. [laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah. You see beauty. When you're in your heart, you see beauty.
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And, and, and we've, our ox- our students' oxytocin levels sometimes are 200 times normal.
- SPSpeaker
Wow.
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Explaining the Unknown Beyond Three-Dimensional Reality
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
unknown. Because in the circuitry of their brain in three-dimensional reality, this is information that's coming from beyond three-dimensional reality. There's no s- there's no language for that. It's, there's a language for everything that you know, so the only you can, thing you can do is you can try to explain- An unknown by using a lots of knowns, and that's kind of a Habian law. Get enough circuits firing if I said, you know, "Receptor sites look like craters on the moon, but they're not craters. They're more like flowers when flowers have antennas, and the center is a kaleidoscope, and the chemical fits in like a lock and key and turns a kaleidoscope. And like dropping a pebble in the water, the antenna gets the signal, and the DNA unzips like unzipping a zipper." You know, like, so you're using all these metaphors-
- SPSpeaker
Wow
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... to help someone understand something unknown called a receptor site, right? So when people have these transcendental experiences with energy and information beyond their senses, they don't have the language to describe like it's... And, and the language specialist came to the event in, um, Jeff, he's such a great guy. He came to the event in Marco Island September of last year, and he had a moment. He had a big moment. In fact, it was so big, he wanted to get on a Zoom call with me, and he was tr- we were laughing so hard because he c- he's a language specialist.
- SPSpeaker
He couldn't explain it.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
He did- he did not have the language [laughs]
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... to explain what happened. So-
- SPSpeaker
Oh, man
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... check the microbiome out. We l- started looking at the microbiome, and I'll stop here because I can go on. We look at the microbiome. Now, you know this. You're a health-minded guy. You wanna change the microbiome? Okay. Stop eating sugar, stop eating starch, no alcohol, don't eat too late.
- SPSpeaker
And smoking. Yeah, yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
No smoking, uh, you know, um, take your probiotics, yeah, you know, all of that. And maybe in six months, you may see [laughs] a few different-
- SPSpeaker
Sure, sure
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... like a phylum of microbiomes changing. At the end of seven days-
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... there are such dramatic changes in the microbiome that our, that our AI, that our, our, our computers that have algorithms to predict diseases, say diseases like, uh, anxiety or cancer or PTSD. We, the machine learns when a person has PTSD, there's a very specific microbiome they have, very similar for cancer, very similar for PTSD. Okay, so you can predict more than 70, 80%, 90% when a person has a health condition by looking at their microbiome. At the end of seven days, the, the, the [laughs] , the, the, the AI, the machine learning couldn't predict, the, the, couldn't predict it. The algorithm couldn't predict it at all. It couldn't tell-
- SPSpeaker
Hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... if the person had the cancer in lung. And there were f- so many probiotic-
- SPSpeaker
Wow
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... mic- uh, microorganisms that were upregulated for inflammation, to reduce cancer, for cancer response to treatment. Seven days?
- SPSpeaker
Wow.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Seven days, and I said to one of the, one of our research team, "Well, what do you think it is?" And one of the researchers said, "I don't know." And the other researcher looked at me, and he said, "They're not the same person. If they were the same person, they'd have the same microbiome, and in seven days they're a different person. Different person, different microbiome." But the microbiomes that are being created-
- SPSpeaker
Wow
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... the competition for healthy microbiomes are squashing the microbiomes that control a lot of, of diabetes and, and inflammation and cancers. And so we showed this data-
- SPSpeaker
Wow
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... to one of our neuroscientists on the team, and she was like, "Uh, excuse me?" Like, um, I, I, she, she didn't even, she couldn't even compute how all of these changes would have such a dramatic effect on the microbiome. So I wanna be very clear that, number one, I'm not saying this, I'm not saying that meditation somehow has an effect on the, uh, the COVID virus or, uh, on the cancer regulation. I'm not saying that. The data's saying that. Like, y- the... And I keep telling the scientists, "I can't believe this is the truth. Like, I can't believe it."
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And when you see a scientist running a study-
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... like five times over and over again, I love it.
- SPSpeaker
Trying to disprove or... Yeah.
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The Power of Consciousness
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
that we have that's overwhelming in the scientific studies that we can do, and I can go on for another two hours about all the studies. Evidence in science, in research, and evidence in human testimony, evidence is the loudest voice, and I think that's what changes consciousness. I think that's what changes a collective consciousness. So there is a field of intelligence that exists beyond our senses that we're unaware of, and that unifying field of energy, it makes up more of the universe than the physical universe you and I are living in. Mm. And so then can you teach a person to get beyond their senses, to get beyond their body, to get beyond all the people and objects and things and places in their environment, to stop trying to predict the future and stop emotionally revisiting the past and labor for the present moment and become pure consciousness? If you can teach people the right information, then set up the conditions in the environment for them to experience it, the first couple days will be choppy because it, it takes an enormous amount- Yes ... for David to face Goliath. Mm. And you gotta get up, right up against every one of those thoughts. There are, there are the thoughts that are always slipping by people's awareness, you know, that talk them out of possibility. And I think when people do that, they get in the habit of stopping, uh, to believe in themselves. Mm. They get in the habit of quitting. They get in, in the habit, you know, of absolving their effort and using some excuse to do that. Seven-day immersion where you go all in, you start early in the morning, you go late at night, is information transformation. It's information transformation. We build information transformation. Stand as it, walk as it, sit as it, lie down as it, become it, right? So the overcoming process we've discovered is the becoming process. Mm. And that 95% that's unconscious, you have to face off with and you gotta finish it so the thought doesn't slip by your awareness unnoticed by you when you return back into your life, or your emotional response to the same person or same circumstance causes you to no longer see the vision of your future because you're feeling the emotions of your past. You'll believe in your past more than you'll believe in your future, right? And so, so when I... We started doing all these case history studies and really looking at people's stories. It was so obvious that there was... They were doing exactly what the people that had their spontaneous remissions were doing. They weren't doing their meditations to heal. [laughs] That's not why they were doing them. They were doing their meditations to change. Right. And they were surrendering any aspect of their limited self to join the greater self, to lose some sense of self, separation to nothing, and that nothing turns out to be rich in something. And energy and frequency is, carries information, and so interacting with that energy and frequency with coherence in your nervous system begins to be translated into our biology as a reflection of wholeness, and we see it across the board over and over again. So when a person- Wow ... then becomes nobody, no one, no thing, nowhere, and no time, and they're in that void, in that vacuum, in that nothing, if you teach them to pay more attention to it and put more awareness on it and feel their connection to it, not only is their nervous system gonna get highly organized and highly entrained, but when they connect to it and that little radio receiver at the top of the limbic brain, the pineal, that little radio receiver starts to transduce infor- information into chemistry in the brain, that's when the person has that full-on sensory experience beyond their senses, and now they're in that 5D reality. Mm. And in 5D, it's all energy, it's all frequency, it's all connected. There's no separation. Um, i- it's all consciousness. It's all vibration. Um, uh, y- there's nowhere to go. You're everywhere all at once. There's no separation 'cause there's nothing to be separated from. So training people over time with information- Wow ... to understand that when they get to the field, if they're gonna create from the field instead of from matter, like if you're creating from matter to matter, it's just gonna take you a long time. Right, right. [laughs] But the idea then with brain and heart coherence, brain coherence, clear intention, electrical charge in the quantum field, send the signal out, we talked about this last time, elevated emotion, heart emotion, magnetic field, coherent heart, that's what draws the experience to you, right? If you create from the field instead of from matter, and it's not matter that's creating the field, it's the field that's creating matter, get as close to source as you can, get close to singularity, to that zero point field, oneness, wholeness, whatever you wanna call that, and there's less separation between your consciousness and the consciousness, a pure consciousness. If there's less separation between two points of consciousness, there's less time. You create from the field instead of from matter. You could actually shorten the distance between the thought of what you want- Mm ... and the experience of having it. And the cool part about it is when you get your nervous system tuned and there's a vibrational match and you're creating from source, why would you go anywhere to get it? Mm. You would... If you were source, you wouldn't go anywhere to get it. You would draw it to you, and you collapse time and space. And when you do that, then the synchronicities, the serendipities, the coincidences, the opportunities start to prove to you that you're actually the creator of your life instead of the victim of your life. And so then people do the work, not because they have to. Mm. They do the work because they don't want the magic to end. I mean, every time I go into nothing, I, I, I go into nothing with the understanding that it's not nothing. I, I, I saw the data. The scientists do meditation. I ask them, "Why do you do meditation?" They say, "Because it's medicine." This is medicine.
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Yes.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Like, I do the, I do the work because I'm the one that's... I'm the grad student [laughs] running the trial here. I saw what it did. Uh, like this
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Changing Beliefs and Emotional States
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
is m- I'm doing it with the intention of changing my biology.
- SPSpeaker
Yes.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And the other thing I discovered when people tell, give their testimonials, is they're, they're... When they do their meditation sometimes three times a day. And like, wow, three times a day. Why three times a day? Well, that's because they're, they're, all the other things they've been doing and conventional and unconventional things aren't working, and the only thing that can work is their belief in themselves.
- SPSpeaker
Mm. Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So when they default, when they respond and react and start doubting, and they start feeling the emotions of their past, they can't believe in their future any longer, so they gotta sit down and change that. And when it's the hardest, it matters the most.
- SPSpeaker
That's when you gotta do it.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
That's when it matters the most, 'cause anything after that point is easy. So they're doing their meditations three times in one day to keep changing their emotional state. 'Cause when you feel the elevated emotion, you can believe in that future 'cause that emotion connects you to that future. So it would be really prudent to get really good at s- sustaining heart coherence with your eyes open. N- no person, no circumstance, no condition move you from the state, right?
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
That's the, that's the initiation, right? So some of these people would have changes in their health, you know, by doing their meditation every day, but their blood values and their scans weren't changing, and they're like, "Okay, wait a second. I'm not gonna say this isn't working 'cause I'm sleeping better and I have less pain and I have my appetite back and, you know, and I feel better, I have more energy, but my cancer's still there and what, what am I missing? What's my blind spot? Oh my God. When I see this person I'm, I... And I go to here and I go there and I do this, I re- I default."
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
I had seamlessly default back to the old person. So they, they, they're, they're actually doing their meditations to make sure that they can sustain that state and they start rehearsing. One hour of a good meditation against 15 hours in my day where I'm stressed out and fearful and anxious, I'm signaling the wrong genes here. My body can't go back into homeostasis. I'm out of homeostasis. Okay. This isn't loving to me. Justified, valid or not, me holding a grudge against that person, it's only killing me. I'm, I'm drinking the poison th- hoping they're gonna die.
- SPSpeaker
Yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So they're like, they get, "Oh my God, this is more loving to me to feel this way." So now they... So the walking meditations that we do become very instrumental-
- SPSpeaker
Yes
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... because you gotta walk as it. You gotta walk as it in your life. Like, you gotta walk as it in your life. You gotta believe it-
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... behave and become. Believe-
- SPSpeaker
Yeah
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... behave, become. That's the m- you know, that's the mantra.
- SPSpeaker
And really practicing it is what will allow you to become it more frequently.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Exactly. Exactly. Until you actually become it.
- SPSpeaker
Yes.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And so, so learning how to do it with your eyes open and, and, and when you lose it, when nothing else is working, they would do their meditations to change their belief over and over again, and they had to make a decision to change their energy, to, to, to signal their body that they could believe. And the stronger the emotion, the more they remember the belief. And so we've uncovered a lot of little, uh, uh, singular mysteries that add up to a bigger understanding about how to make this brain and heart of ours work better, and to begin to become br- coherent brain, coherent heart, you got a Wi-Fi signal. You got a Wi-Fi signal, you can connect to energy-
- SPSpeaker
Sure
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... you connect to information. Dissonance, incoherence in the brain, incoherence, and now you got, you got no signal.
- SPSpeaker
[laughs] .
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You got static on the wire.
- SPSpeaker
[laughs] .
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You got nothing. You can't connect.
- SPSpeaker
Yes.
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The Illusion of Three-dimensional Reality
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
by our senses- Mm ... that this is the only reality there is. And so much of our attention is on our bodies, on the people in our life, on the things we own, and the places we live, the places we live, the places we need to be, the places we need to go, and time itself, that we create this identity that's identifying with three-dimensional reality, and we have no awareness of where we've come from. Throw in the hormones of stress and activate the senses, and now you're really your body. Now you're really your environment. That's where all your attention is. You're really obsessed with time, and now you gotta play by the rules of Newtonian physics, and now everything is predictable, everything is known, everything you gotta plan to make happen in three-dimensional reality. So then vibration, think of a pendulum. Think of pendulum. You got that point at the top, and swing a pendulum, and anything that vibrates, anything that oscillates, moves between two points of rest, two poles. And at the point where it goes at one point and it stops, that is the point of absolute rest. That is no time. At the point where it's at the very bottom, right at, right when the, right from the point, right straight down, perpendicular, vertical, that point right there is this, when it's moving at its absolute speed. Mm. Then it's gotta go uphill, and then it stops, and now you're at a point of absolute rest. So this oscillation that's created is called a frequency, right? And if you were to measure that mathematically, it's a sine wave. And at the very top of, say, the sine wave, the peak, that's the point of absolute rest. Mm-hmm. As it moves down, and it's moving down, that, right in the middle is the point of absolute speed, and then it goes to the point of absolute rest. Now, absolute rest is no time. Source energy, there's no space and there's no time. There's no separation. So then the slowest frequency then, in that point where it starts oscillating, you can see the slower frequencies are touching source a lot less. As the frequencies get faster, as the points of absolute speed and the points of absolute rest get closer and closer together, you're touching source more- Mm ... because you're touching no time more. Interesting. So now you feel more whole. You, m- you feel more love. You feel more freedom. You feel more faster frequencies, more bliss, more wholeness, because there's less separation. Interesting. So now the fastest frequencies, Planck constant, the frequency is so fast, take a centimeter of this frequency, and there's enough energy to create the entire universe. Wow. That's how much energy's in there, okay? Wow. So you get to a point where the, the points of absolute speed and the points of absolute rest merge. That, that point, that non-vibratory state, has an infinite number of potentials and an enormous amount of power. It is the source of everything physical and material, right? So then energy slows down, and as it slows down, it has its own characteristics, and it reaches a point where it can no longer be whole. When it reaches a point where it n- no longer can be whole, it divides. It separates. It bursts. Mm-hmm. And now you have light and photons and electrons and positive charge and negative charge, and past and future, and sound, and i- the frequency slows all the way down into density, right? So then our job then is to take all of our attention off our body, off our environment and time, and really move to a place where we're conscious of nothing but you as an awareness. Mm. And when you do that, that point of where you become pure consciousness is the door to the quantum field. Wow. That's where we start interacting with different energies and frequencies. So we use this model to help people understand that the closer you get to source, if you're at, you're vibrating at this frequency as pure consciousness and you're creating from here, there's less separation between you as your individual consciousness and oneness. If there's less separation between two points of consciousness and you're creating from the field, it should appear in three-dimensional reality in a shorter amount of time. Mm, mm. Down here, there's a lot of separation. It's just gonna take you a long time- To get there ... to create what you want, right? So getting beyond yourself and becoming pure consciousness, there's a whole unlearning process that has to go on. Why? Because we're still programmed to believe when we're in that void or in that vacuum, in that nothing, in the emptiness, you, we actually believe there's Lewis or Joe Dispenza, I'm here, and then there's the vacuum and the void here, and you still believe you're separate, and that is a whole unlearning process that has to go on to realize that you're a thought. You're an awareness there. And in that state, if you're truly there, aware of nothing but you, and if you're creating from that place, your thought actually produces a frequency. And [laughs] if you can feel the frequency of the thought, in other words, the thought of your abundance in the f- 5D reality produces the feeling of abundance- Yes ... of worthiness. Your thought of your wealth in three-dimensional reality produces the feeling of lack of not having it. So when we create from the field, we have to create from the state where we feel the feeling of the event before it occurs. In the quantum, you have to feel it first to experience it in three-dimensional reality. So change the information- Wow ... in the field, you change the hologram. This is all a hologram. You're, you're gonna change the projection in three-dimensional reality. So we teach people how to practice with brain and heart coherence to change more information in the field, keep changing the information in the field, get closer and closer to source. This is the greater mind. You don't have to worry about when it's gonna happen or how it's gonna happen or try to predict it. [laughs] It's none of your business.
- SPSpeaker
Right.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
That would-
- SPSpeaker
And you're, and, and you already feel good too.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah. You, you're creating from wholeness.
- SPSpeaker
Right.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You're creating from wholeness instead of from lack. And so when you start synchronizing your energy in the proper way, and you keep, you keep inputting into the field, then you start seeing the synchronicities in your life, you know? Uh, huh.
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And I'm not, we're not talking about a parking space.
- SPSpeaker
Yeah, yeah. [laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
We're talking about, like, opportunities, like, in your life.
- SPSpeaker
Oh,
- 1:50:33 – 1:56:49
Creating from the Field
- SPSpeaker
yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Well, whatever I just did this morning, I'm going back tomorrow. I'm doing it again 'cause I believe now that I'm the creator, and that is what actually enhances the outcome, right? So people in this work, they do the work because they don't want the magic to end, right? Experimenting creating from the field instead of from matter to shorten the distance, the time between the thought of what you want and the experience of having it when we create from the field instead of from matter. And so you gotta get to the field first, and you gotta get to the field, and you can't go as, you can't go as a somebody.
- SPSpeaker
Yeah. [laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You gotta go as a nobody. And I, I think I've labored for years to get people to get beyond themselves and, and that's the work. You know, that's really the work.
- SPSpeaker
[sighs] I always love when you come on because I can just sit here and watch and listen for hours. Um, and I think this, what you just shared right there, is gonna be extremely helpful for people. You know, we're gonna have this up while you were sharing for them to visually understand this 'cause I think it can get complex trying to conceptualize these things. Again, you said we need metaphors to explain these things-
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah
- SPSpeaker
... so people can start to feel and understand and say, "Okay. Well, maybe I could get there." When we're in so much stress, so much of feelings of lack, so much feeling of-
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Confusion
- SPSpeaker
... anxiety, confusion, overwhelm, uh, not enough-ness, and a, a deep sense of insecurity and self-doubt, it is v- it's... it feels like it can be almost impossible to start even thinking about these things-
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah
- SPSpeaker
... let alone spending five minutes trying to meditate-
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah
- SPSpeaker
... let alone starting to believe in a potential future. And so I appreciate the way you explaining it and showing visually kind of like, "Okay, here's-"
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
There's a caveat to that too.
- SPSpeaker
Yes. Tell me.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
The caveat is you gotta pass through the s- the valley of the shadow of darkness.
- SPSpeaker
[laughs] It sucks.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Because every one of those lower frequencies is carrying information. Every one of those emotions have memories.
- SPSpeaker
Loss-
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So you gotta-
- SPSpeaker
... pain, victimization, suffering
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... you gotta go through... Yeah, you gotta... You just... Some people stop and they say, "Oh-
- SPSpeaker
It's too much
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... it's too much. I feel this suffering because of my childhood-
- SPSpeaker
Uh-huh
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... because of my past." And, and that's where they stay. So the job then when you become nobody, no one, no thing, nowhere, no time, is you gotta go pa- you gotta go like, "Is there anything beyond this guilt? It... I, I've been feeling this feeling so long and suffering, I didn't even know I was... It just was suffering. It's just how I al- always feel." So-
- SPSpeaker
It's all new.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So you gotta pass through those different emotions. You gotta go through one by one. And listen, it's so important because when you're not reaching for your cell phone-
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... and you're not turning on your computer or the TV to watch the game or going shopping or calling a friend, you're, you know, you're, you sit with yourself, right? And y- all... I want all... I want everybody to come up against themselves. I mean, if not now-
- 1:56:49 – 2:02:45
Changing Your Personal Reality
- SPSpeaker
Yes. And then the fourth thing I think you said is they lost track of space and time.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Look, there's nothing that you said that's so outside of a beginner's mind to accept this. I mean, who's beating your heart? Who's digesting your food? Who's running all those automatic func- Something's giving you life, and it's pretty intelligent. I mean, you have little tiny enzymes zipping through the trillions and trillions of cells of your body and changing mutations. You're not thinking about that. There's an intelligence-
- SPSpeaker
Yes
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... that's giving you life. And if it isn't intelligence, then it is a consciousness, right? So, like, just acknowledging that it's within you is enough. Everybody, everybody has done something great in their life at least once. I don't care what it is. You just got a wild-ass idea.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And you saw this possibility, and you got so wrapped up in the possibility that it could happen to you that you started feeling the emotion. You were giving your body a taste of the future when you felt that emotion, and no person, no circumstance, no in-law, no relative, no friend is gonna talk you out. No pain, nothing, no excuse is gonna talk you out of that future. You felt it. Everybody's done that. They married a clear intention with an elevated emotion, and then they said, "Okay, [laughs] um, what choices am I gonna start making? I'm gonna write them down. What things am I gonna start doing? What are my goals? What are my experiences I want?" And every goal you wrote down, you thought, "Oh, my God, it's gonna feel like this." You just, you got really clear, and you just kept reviewing all the things you, you needed to do, right? And how you had to choose and w- how you wanted to think and what you did wanna believe. And you took time to keep l- keeping it alive, right? And you gotta... You, it's so much easier to forget it than to remember, so you gotta revisit it over and over again. Then we all did this. "Uh, I'm too tired. Uh, I'll start tomorrow. I don't feel good." That's not gonna be in my wheelhouse. That's not g- That's, that's me not changing and me not choosing. Okay, so what... So what choices am I gonna stop making? Am I... I'm gonna get off the couch. I'm not gonna scroll for an hour. I'm gonna get out of bed early. You know, these are things. I'm gonna not sleep in. I'm not gonna do this, whatever it is. Uh, what, what things am I gonna stop doing? What, what habits am I gonna break? Okay, I can't keep doing the same thing. I gotta do the different things. What experiences am I gonna stay away from with certain people and certain parts of my life? I'm just not gonna... I don't wanna go there. Like, I need to disconnect from those experiences. And what feelings are gonna bring me to a lower denominator-
- SPSpeaker
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... that's gonna cause me to feel like my old self and, and not believe in my future? And, and I... We did this, you know? Everybody's done it, and then you stick with it, and you're believing in it, and your energy's changed, and you're excited. Nobody knows what's up with you, but you're just, you're excited about something, and it's like your little private little creation that you're nurturing. And then when you start seeing the things change, and you start, it's working, right? And then you start taking your foot off the gas a little bit, and now you start believing a little bit more, and you ease up. And when it happens, you feel more whole.
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You feel more joyful, and you feel more giving and more loving and, and-
- SPSpeaker
Yes
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... and more present and more patient. That's the side effect of us, um, you know, reaching, reaching that vision of our future. And if your vision is to be wealthy, if your vision is to be in love, if your vision is to be, I don't know, whatever it is, to have a mystical experience, and you're here, I tell my kids this from the time they were little. You cannot be wealthy if you wanna be wealthy if you're this person.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You're gonna have to do a lot of changing, a lot of changing to arrive there. You can't be that person. If you wanna be healthy and you're not healthy, or you're out of shape, or you're overweight or underweight or whatever it is, if you want to arrive at that p- that goal, you're gonna have to make a lot of different choices, do a lot of different things, create a lot of different experiences, and feel very differently than when you started.
- SPSpeaker
Yes.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And when you finally change, you're gonna w- you're gonna arrive, arrive, right, at that vision. So we were talking to the language specialists. We had 15 scientists in San Diego a couple months ago, and all, all of the people that are deeply engaged in it. And I, I wanna make this really practical for, for people. There's personality and personal reality. Change your personality, change your personal reality. Meditation means to become familiar with. Become familiar with the old self. Know thyself so well that you don't go there any longer.
- SPSpeaker
Mm, mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
But become familiar with the new self. Fire and wire new thoughts. Fire and wire new behaviors. Create new chemicals and feelings, and get familiar with that. Get... That's, that's crossing the river of change. Yeah, there's a biological death, but that's leaving behind the old, right? People do that, and, and some people change in 13 months. They heal in 13 months. They heal in eight months. They heal in four months. But along the way, they get signals. I... For me, with my own injury, that first time I felt my f- toes again, I was just like, "Man, I am... Now, that's it." It was all... I was like a dog on a bone. I was k- I knew it. That's the, that's the process. You evolve your experience, and you start practicing paying more attention to nothing and with that frequency, that non-local. I mean, how do you explain the quantum? Take away everything physical and material. Take away all the objects, bodies, the people, the things, the places, the Earth, the moon, the planets, the moons from the planets, the light from the planets, the sun, the light from the sun, the stars, the light from the stars, the galaxies. Take away everything material and physical, you're left with a vacuum, a void. And it just turns out that that vacuum and void, there's an enormous amount of information-
- SPSpeaker
That's a lot [laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... an enormous amount of energy. And if the atom is 99.99999999% nothing and information, and you're made of atoms, then I'm missing out-
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... on a lot of you, and all I'm doing is capturing a symbol that my brain is
- 2:02:45 – 2:08:39
The Science of Perception and Wholeness
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
wired to perceive. I mean, the brain has been shaped and molded over generations untold to live in survival. And when you're in survival, the only thing you're putting your attention is on the material world because those, those hormones cause us to become materialists. So you keep narrowing your focus on the predator, on the danger, and you're looking for food, and the brain is gonna be sculpted and molded over y- over thousands and thousands of years to just perceive-
- SPSpeaker
Wow
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... the frequency of light that's bouncing off the most stable form of energy, the slowest frequency that we perceive with our senses, that fool us into the illusion of separation. While the quantum field, there could be no physical world w- w- without the quantum. In other words, it's not this field that's em- the, the matter that's emitting a field, it's the field that's actually lowering its frequency and creating matter. So your, if your body is 99.9999% energy and frequency and information, and information actually outlives matter, then there's a whole unknown self that we have to become aware of.
- SPSpeaker
Wow.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And there's enormous amount of possibilities that exist in that field that we would never, ever, ever be- become aware of unless we had a new experience. And every new experience causes us to think about possibilities we would've never thought before until we had that experience.
- SPSpeaker
Yes.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And that's when it gets super exciting. So people come to our work for health. Yes, it's important 'cause they have a lack of it. People come for success and wealth because they have the lack of it. People come because they want to have a mystical experience because of the lack of it, because they want love in their life, because they have a lack of it. They come for all those reasons in the beginning, but what we discovered is that they're really coming for wholeness.
- SPSpeaker
Mm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And, you know, it's really hard to want when you're whole. And, you know, I discover that when people are really whole and they're happy with themselves, they're happy with others. And when they love themselves, they love others. And when they're grateful for what they've accomplished, they're grateful with others. If they're angry with themselves, they're angry with others. If they hate themselves, they hate others. If they judge themselves, they judge others. Yeah, it's the way it is. So we see an emergent consciousness at the end of seven days. You know, uh, we had 90 different countries at the last event-
- SPSpeaker
Wow
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... you know, from all over the world. And, and w- all over the world, people come together. At the end of seven days, there's an emergent community. There's a, there's a, uh, there's a emergence that takes place, like the school of fish-
- SPSpeaker
Mm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... like the flock of birds-
- SPSpeaker
Yes
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... behave the same way collectively. And what happens is there's an emergent consciousness, and it's being reflected in people's biology in seven days. And it's not one person, it's not two people, it's the majority of the collective. And collective networks of observers determine reality. And it's not the number of people.
- SPSpeaker
So true.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
It's not the amount of energy. You can have entropic energy. It really is the most coherent signal. Get people with brain and heart coherence. You know, I said in, I said in Switzerland just a couple weeks ago, 8,000, over 8,000 people at that event. I said, "Where else in the world would you see 8,000 people the same place at the same time meditating on the same thing?" Get the, get a collective in that kind of coherent state, they're actually altering the field right in the present moment. There's energy for miracles. We see 'em all the time. There's energy for healing.
- SPSpeaker
Yes.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
We see it all the time. There's energy for the mystical. We see it all the time. And because the collective, it's in their consciousness, and you can't have consciousness without energy. You can't have a thought without frequency. So the collective consciousness coming together is creating an alteration in possibilities. Get people sitting next to each other and their hearts go into coherence, into order, and their field that's being emitted meters wide is interfering with the person next to them, and it starts to synchronize. And when waves come together, they start building and they interfere, and they produce bigger amplitudes. Higher the amplitude, the higher the energy.
- SPSpeaker
Yes.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
So you see the collective coming together over the course of seven days, and by the end of seven days people feel like their future has already happened.
- SPSpeaker
Yes.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And so when their future already happens, you stop-
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... obsessing about when it's gonna happen, why it's gonna happen. It's impossible-
- SPSpeaker
Yes
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... to do that when you're in a state of wholeness 'cause you're not in lack, and that's when the magic happens.
- SPSpeaker
Yeah. You li- you feel like you, you are love. You feel like, I am love.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah.
- SPSpeaker
You know, I'm not searching for love. I'm not searching for more money or more relationships to feel it, because I am it. That-
- 2:08:39 – 2:14:05
Implementing Daily Mindfulness Practices
- SPSpeaker
on your website specifically.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah.
- SPSpeaker
But on iTunes or anywhere you wanna, you wanna download it.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
It's basically, it's basically what we just talked about.
- SPSpeaker
Exactly.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You're gonna start in the morning and you're gonna-
- SPSpeaker
Yes
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... decide who you no longer wanna be and you're gonna decide who you wanna be, and you're gonna remember to not think this way, to not, uh-
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... remind yourself to not think, act, and feel this way. And you're gonna remind yourself to think, act, and feel this way. And then at the end of the day, you're gonna s- ask yourself, "How did I do?"
- SPSpeaker
You gotta reflect. Yeah, yeah.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You go, "How did I do? Did I, where did I fall from grace?"
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
"When did I go unconscious? When did I get angry? Oh, another shot."
- SPSpeaker
Yes.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
"Tomorrow's another day. I want it."
- SPSpeaker
Bring it.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
"I wanna, I wanna be in that same circumstance where I behave differently, where I react emotionally differently. I got, I... That thought kept coming up. I'm gonna finish the thought in the meditation, and the rest of my day I'm not gonna-
- SPSpeaker
Mm-hmm
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... I'm not gonna allow that thought to slip by my awareness unchecked. I'm gonna catch every voice-"
- SPSpeaker
Yes
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... "every thought." So, so i- it's a great way to do what we just did. We, the, the 20 min- That's probably one of the most popular meditations-
- SPSpeaker
It's amazing
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... 'cause it's easy. But I just did a 30-minute one, too. Um, that's a l- again, a little bit longer, a little different, different music, but-
- SPSpeaker
Yeah, yeah. But ga- I mean, if you're just getting started, check out the morning and evening one. I think they're great. There's a ton of them that you have that I think are, everyone should download, but get started there. Um, the next thing I want you guys to do is to, if you have the chance to go to a seven-day retreat with Dr. Joe, I think they're sold out for the next two years probably. But they sell out within, like, 15 minutes. And, uh, if you get the chance, go sign up for Dr. Joe's email newsletter so you can be notified of when the events are out, and just be ready to get your ticket because it's really hard to book, get your ticket right now. I've got so many friends that try to book it all the time. They're like, "Ah, we missed it by 10 minutes, and they sold out." So it's a life-changing experience. If you feel called, like this is something you wanna try, go sign up for the newsletter, uh, at your website. We'll have that linked below. Uh, the next thing, we mentioned this ear- in the intro to this interview, uh, Dr. Joe is gonna be a featured speaker at Summit of Greatness. So if you haven't got your ticket yet for that, if his event has already been sold out, get a ticket for Summit of Greatness. We'll link that below. You can hear him speak and learn more about this in person at that event, at Summit of Greatness.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
I'm looking forward to that.
- SPSpeaker
It's gonna be amazing.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah.
- SPSpeaker
I'm pumped.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah.
- 2:14:05 – 2:20:18
The Power of Personal Evolution and Inspiration
- SPSpeaker
gonna teach you, and I'm not gonna keep evolving." Like, you keep evolving as a human, as an individual. physically, mentally, spiritually, and I, I appreciate seeing that from someone who's constantly teaching. 'Cause sometimes you see people teaching that, you know, let themselves go.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah, I think, I think I'm super inspired. I mean, in the last couple years, Lewis, I just, I just ... I, I, I think I was more surprised than anybody. I mean, seeing blind people see. Like, I, I, like, uh, people with muscular dystrophy. I mean, look that up. Look that up. You know, go Wikipedia and they'll tell you there is no cure. Out of the wheelchair, walking back into his life. Had a huge moment. ALS, like, I'm just ... You know, terminal cancers, you know, stage four cancers, metastatic cancer of the bones. Uh, the testimonials have humbled me. You know, growing a thyroid back. I mean, come on. Like, that's unbelievable.
- SPSpeaker
Wow.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Like, it's unbelievable for me, and I watch the testimonials, some of these 50 times in a row because I s- it's unbelievable for me. So I'm so humbled because I'm watching, like, those people are my heroes. Like, they're really doing some really inc- unbelievable things. When I look at the data and I see it's not just, like, 18% of the population has a 30% change in the right parietal lobe, you know? It's not like that.
- SPSpeaker
Right, right.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
It's like 77%, 84%, 100% of the population. The probability that it could happen to you and I-
- SPSpeaker
Crazy
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... is really, really high. So when I see the data, I keep saying to the scientists, "I can't believe this is the truth."
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
I just can't believe it's the truth. So, so I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm changing and learning because I, I, I, I don't, I, I don't know what ... I can't say it doesn't work any longer. I, I, I'm, I'm super open to, to whatever the next level is. We-
- SPSpeaker
What is the next level?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
I don't know. Like, we're doing now, we saw that intention has, can manufacture chemicals in the autonomic nervous system intentionally, so we've spent the last few months intentionally creating the molecules that are released from a part of the brain that create mystical experiences. Like, very profound, like DMT and those derivatives, and people have had some very big, [laughs] very big moments, uh, without any, without any exogenous, without ever taking anything outside.
- SPSpeaker
All internal.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Yeah. They're, they're ... And know I, I'm clear that the autonomic nervous system, give it the right intent and the intent is translated as information. You don't have to know how to make serpentine five. You don't have to know how to make dimethyltryptamine.
- SPSpeaker
Wow.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
The autonomic nervous system is like, it's our servant, right? Open the door between the conscious mind and the subconscious mind, plant the seed, keep doing it, and sooner or later your biology will change. So we're ... Every new experiment we have, we sit down and we go, "Oh my God," like, "Let's think about a way to do this with another molecule. Uh, if it's working like this and working like that, what if we do this," right? So, so our advanced follow-ups, they're changing so much because we're, we're experimenting-
- SPSpeaker
Wow
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... with, with ... If it's worked this way and this way, it's gotta work this way. And so we try it and, you know, we're, now we're developing devices and instrumentation to measure things that haven't been created yet because it's insane, so.
- SPSpeaker
Yeah. I'm so excited to go to advanced follow-up.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Dude, you're invited.
- SPSpeaker
It's gonna be amazing.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Wait a second. You're no longer invited.
- SPSpeaker
[laughs] I know.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
That's how I got you to the elite cl-
- SPSpeaker
I know.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
You cannot come.
- SPSpeaker
I know. [laughs]
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Ever. You cannot come-
- SPSpeaker
It's happening
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
... to one of my advanced follow-ups.
- 2:20:18 – 2:20:52
Understanding our Human Potential
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
There was nothing, was zero, absent. We have just scratched the surface. This is just the beginning to understanding our human potential. In order for us to find love, a part of us must die.
- SPSpeaker
Ooh.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Or anything-
- SPSpeaker
Wait, wait, wait. Why, why do we, why do we need to die to find love? Or part of us?
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
Because anything that's not love in us must die.
- SPSpeaker
Ooh.
- JDDr. Joe Dispenza
And that's the difference between knowing the path and walking the path, right? So, um, so one of the things that we w-
Episode duration: 2:20:52
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