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EVERYTHING You Know About Manifesting Is WRONG! (Do This Instead) | Lewis Howes

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  1. 0:00 – 3:44

    Death, Energy, and Remembering Life Is Temporary

    1. SS

      When you give, you find yourself in a better space. When you share with others, you feel even more happier. Getting more, earning more, nothing wrong about it. Don't feel guilt about, guilty about it. You can go on, but make sure-

    2. LH

      I think you gotta have a dream. The School of Greatness. Really? [laughs] Yeah. Please welcome Lewis Howes. I read in your bio that you graduated college when you were 17, I believe, and you also studied physics. But you're also a very gifted spiritual leader. So I'm curious what you have learned from physics and spirituality about death and what happens when we die. This has been something I've been very curious about. Heard lots of different answers out there, but I'm curious from your experience and your wisdom what happens when we die.

    3. SS

      You know, with physics we know, um, matter and energy, they're interconvertible and they, uh, you cannot destroy them. Right? So our spirit is nothing but energy.

    4. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    5. SS

      So it's just, uh, a parting way with the, the body.

    6. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    7. SS

      The spirit, eh?

    8. LH

      Yes.

    9. SS

      It stays on. The energy stays on. I would say it's just like a mini sleep. You know when you go to... Every night when you knock the pillow, and then you are off for, you know, so many hours. You don't know where you are, and then you wake up. In the same way, think, uh, but with little more intensity, with little more awareness.

    10. LH

      [laughs]

    11. SS

      Little more awareness. That is, uh, parting away from the physical body. It's, it appears to be so painful for, uh, once you've not had that experience. But, uh, people who have had near-death experiences-

    12. LH

      Mm-hmm

    13. SS

      ... you might have heard from them all.

    14. LH

      Yeah.

    15. SS

      That it's a very pleasant thing. So also in meditation, when you go into deep meditation, you can see that, uh, there is a difference.

    16. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    17. SS

      Very notable difference and, uh, it's not as, uh, mm, painful or ugly as one think of.

    18. LH

      Right. Do you think we should fear it or be more excited about death then?

    19. SS

      Neither. Just take it as it is. [laughs]

    20. LH

      Just take it as it is. I heard, um, I don't know if this is 100% true or not, but I heard that the country of Bhutan is supposed to be one of the happiest places in the world. I'm not sure if that's 100% true or not. And I heard that one of their practices or philosophies is to think about their death multiple times a day. I don't know if it's three times or five times a day. And I don't know if the whole country does this or if this is just a, a practice that some people do. Why would it be valuable to think about our death multiple times throughout the day or the week?

    21. SS

      You don't have to think multiple times, but time and again reminding ourself that, uh, you're in a transit lounge, my dear. [laughs] You're going to exit from here sometime. And, uh, the life here is temporary, you know? It's, it's ephemerical. When this idea comes to our mind, what happens is, uh, those unnecessary things that we get embroiled into-

    22. LH

      Mm

    23. SS

      ... they just drop off.

    24. LH

      Right.

    25. SS

      So more purposefulness starts coming, uh, into our life. And we think, "Hey, what is... Look. Wait a minute. What is it I want?" You know? "Is this what really what I want?" Uh, these questions rise up within you.

    26. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    27. SS

      'Cause you know life is short, and you want to, you want to get maximum out of it.

    28. LH

      Right.

  2. 3:44 – 7:50

    Confusion, Intuition, and Handling Big Demands

    1. LH

      Was there ever a point in your life where you didn't know what you wanted or why you wanted something?

    2. SS

      Not since I was a child. Uh-

    3. LH

      [laughs]

    4. SS

      ... always had a, an idea, you know, what's going to happen.

    5. LH

      There's a lot of people that seem, in the world, that seems like they're struggling to figure out their mission or purpose or what they want. They're kind of scattered or they're just unsure of what direction to go. It s- it seems like you didn't have that that much.

    6. SS

      No, I didn't have that problem. Yeah. [laughs]

    7. LH

      So for people that have that problem, how can they start to figure out at least just the next step towards a direction?

    8. SS

      Ah. You know, confusion is very good.

    9. LH

      It's good?

    10. SS

      They should feel that... They should be lucky that they got this confusion.

    11. LH

      Why is that?

    12. SS

      Every confusion tells you that you are growing.

    13. LH

      Ah.

    14. SS

      You're not happy with what it is, what is. You're not contented, but you are looking for something more.

    15. LH

      Mm.

    16. SS

      And confusion is that state in between two, uh, two steps of progress in life. So if you're confused, know that it's just a momentary phase.

    17. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    18. SS

      And, uh, something of the past you are, you are ready to let go.

    19. LH

      Interesting.

    20. SS

      And you are looking for something, uh, different in the future.

    21. LH

      So you, it seems like you weren't really confused that much 'cause you knew what you wanted to create, you knew what your direction was, and you've been on that journey for a long time.

    22. SS

      Yeah. It's another aspect within us that is intuitive power.

    23. LH

      Intuitive power.

    24. SS

      If we, if we tap into our intuitive power, then, you know, um, not much confusion is there.

    25. LH

      Mm-hmm. Besides meditation, 'cause I'm assuming that's a big part of it, how would we tap into our intuitive power more powerfully?

    26. SS

      Live in the present moment.

    27. LH

      Mm.

    28. SS

      Keep your mind more focused i- the now and here. Be with the nature. And, uh, um, keep aside for some time that busy mind which, uh, which says, "I have so many things to do. I want... They want to do this, do that, do that." Say, "Okay. I'm not going to do anything now."

    29. LH

      Mm.

    30. SS

      How about not doing anything for a few moment? You know, getting off of that, that coat that you wear all the time. Mm. That gives you an opening into a space that you really seek for.

  3. 7:50 – 9:58

    Worrying Big and Why Serving Others Prevents Depression

    1. LH

      What do you worry about, then?

    2. SS

      Nothing.

    3. LH

      [laughs]

    4. SS

      If at all you had to worry, I would say, you know, you should worry big. You should worry about the planet.

    5. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    6. SS

      About the environment, about the violence in the world. These are some big worries, is worth having.

    7. LH

      Yeah. [laughs]

    8. SS

      And, uh, and once we, uh, think in these lines, then that gives you a, a lot of energy.

    9. LH

      Mm.

    10. SS

      It motivates you.

    11. LH

      Mm.

    12. SS

      Like you, like you motivate people-

    13. LH

      Mm

    14. SS

      ... to do things, you know? It, it's a self-motivating factor-

    15. LH

      Yeah

    16. SS

      ... um, when you see world in a, with a wide angle lens.

    17. LH

      It motivates you more when you focus on bigger challenges in the world, as opposed to-

    18. SS

      You bet

    19. LH

      ... focusing on yourself. What happens when we just focus on our needs, our own goals, and not also supporting others?

    20. SS

      Well, uh, you don't realize your full potential. If you're just thinking about yourself-

    21. LH

      Mm-hmm

    22. SS

      ... your little things that you need to, uh... Anyway, you can achieve it. Anyway, you can do it. You are going to, uh, have what you, what you focus on. But it cannot give you the satisfaction-

    23. LH

      Mm-hmm

    24. SS

      ... which you get by sharing, mm, with everyone-

    25. LH

      Mm

    26. SS

      ... with the whole world. Now, there is a formula to get depressed. That is just think only about yourself.

    27. LH

      [laughs]

    28. SS

      What about me, what about me, you know? You're bound to get depressed.

    29. LH

      Right.

    30. SS

      And today, in our world, uh, this is the biggest challenge. People who are only thinking about themself, they're more depressed than those who are, uh, you know, focused on some social activity-

  4. 9:58 – 14:33

    Understanding Doubt and Fear of Failure

    1. LH

      Has there ever been a time where you've doubted yourself?

    2. SS

      You know, doubt is just, uh, low prana. Prana is energy, I would say.

    3. LH

      Low prana.

    4. SS

      Low prana.

    5. LH

      What is prana?

    6. SS

      Prana is a life force. When your life force is low, then you doubt.

    7. LH

      Mm.

    8. SS

      You doubt yourself, you doubt others, you doubt everybody. The best way is to do some breathing exercise at that moment.

    9. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    10. SS

      And then right there, you are out of that, uh, doubting mind. You know, uh, another thing is, uh, we must understand the mechanism of doubt itself.

    11. LH

      Say that again.

    12. SS

      We, we should understand what doubt is all about.

    13. LH

      What is it, yeah.

    14. SS

      It's always about something positive. Have you thought about it?

    15. LH

      Give me an example.

    16. SS

      You know, uh, someone, uh, doubts the honesty of someone.

    17. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    18. SS

      But you don't doubt the dishonesty of somebody.

    19. LH

      Mm. Right.

    20. SS

      See, you hear from somebody, "So-and-so is dishonest," you don't go, "Really?"

    21. LH

      [laughs] Right.

    22. SS

      Same way, when someone tells you, "I love you so much," you ask them, "Really?" We doubt love. We never doubt hatred.

    23. LH

      Mm.

    24. SS

      If someone says, "I'm so, I'm mad at you," you don't, you never go, "Really?"

    25. LH

      Mm.

    26. SS

      You know? You, you wonder about, uh, mm, those, uh, wonderful qualities that we have.

    27. LH

      Right.

    28. SS

      And so we doubt them, too.

    29. LH

      Yeah.

    30. SS

      We doubt the honesty of a person. We doubt, um, our own happiness. If someone asks, um, asks you, "Are you happy?" You say, "Well, I'm not sure." But you're so certain about your depression.

  5. 14:33 – 17:32

    Facing Prejudice with Patience

    1. LH

      What's been the biggest challenge you've had to overcome so far in your life, your adult life?

    2. SS

      Prejudice.

    3. LH

      Prejudice?

    4. SS

      Prejudice. People have lots of different type of prejudice. Of, uh, race, religion, culture, language, gender, and this is the... This is what, uh, you know, I feel, um, is a hindrance to our society.

    5. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    6. SS

      World over. Every country.

    7. LH

      Yeah.

    8. SS

      There are prejudice. Also, all type of prejudice. People who think they know, and they don't know that there are paradigm shifts and things-

    9. LH

      Mm-hmm

    10. SS

      ... to keep happening differently. This was, um, what we had to face in the beginning, you know? When I used to talk about meditation and yoga, breathing. 40 years back, people thought it's-

    11. LH

      You're crazy or something. Yeah

    12. SS

      ... some weird. It's, it's, it's not for normal people. It's a little weird. It's not for the normal, you know, common-

    13. LH

      The mainstream masses. Yeah

    14. SS

      ... the mainstream. [laughs]

    15. LH

      And now yoga and meditation's everywhere. [laughs]

    16. SS

      Everywhere. [laughs]

    17. LH

      You can't go down the street in LA without seeing a yoga studio.

    18. SS

      Yeah, yeah, yeah. This talk is a type of prejudice. Uh, um, when we see this sort of prejudice, uh, about gender, what we see in Afghanistan or some of the Gulf countries against women, and in Africa, I mean, it pains, you know?

    19. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    20. SS

      It, it's, it's painful. See, um, they should all be treated equally.

    21. LH

      Right.

    22. SS

      Justice should prevail.

    23. LH

      How have you dealt with prejudice over your life, then?

    24. SS

      With patience and perseverance.

    25. LH

      Yeah.

    26. SS

      And, uh, not let that, um, preoccupy you. You know? You, you see prejudice, but don't pay too much attention to it.

    27. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    28. SS

      You just keep going ahead.

    29. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    30. SS

      And, you know, it gets sorted out by itself.

  6. 17:32 – 24:32

    Abundance, Giving, and Spiritual Wealth

    1. LH

      Young people seem to want, um, at least in this country, they seem to want to manifest abundance in their life. It seems like they want more financial abundance, more, uh, abundant health, you know, abundance in their relationships. Why do you think humans are wired for more, wired for abundance? Why is it so important?

    2. SS

      There's nothing wrong about it. You go for abundance, but don't postpone being happy-

    3. LH

      Mm

    4. SS

      ... for a future date.

    5. LH

      Yes.

    6. SS

      You have to be happy now, here, today. And nothing wrong for you to think about, uh, you know, what you need to do in five years later or 10 years later. You can, you can have a... You can go for abundance. You can go for more and more, uh, whatever you feel like. But don't forget, um, there is something much bigger inside of it.

    7. LH

      What is that?

    8. SS

      That you should not forget. The joy, the happiness that you get in sharing. Now, there are two type of joy. One is, uh, that you get when you get things.

    9. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    10. SS

      This is an infant joy. As kids we're all-

    11. LH

      Right. [laughs]

    12. SS

      ... have, you know, your birthday presents, you know, your gift, Christmas gifts, when, you know-

    13. LH

      Mm

    14. SS

      ... uh, you are, uh, eager to get something. And when you get, you become so happy.

    15. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    16. SS

      But there is another happiness. That's of the grandmother's happiness, grandfather's happiness.

    17. LH

      Mm.

    18. SS

      The Santa Claus happiness. [laughs]

    19. LH

      Mm-hmm. When I give.

    20. SS

      When you give you find yourself in a better space. When you share with others, you feel even more happier. That's a mature happiness. And that type of happiness we must aim for in our life.

    21. LH

      Mm.

    22. SS

      You know? It's okay, the, the joy of having, getting more, earning more, nothing wrong about it. Don't feel guilt about, guilty about it. You can go on, but make sure you share and get the greater joy by sharing.

    23. LH

      What happens if we don't share?

    24. SS

      You remain t- um, you, you remain very restricted in your personal and social life.

    25. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    26. SS

      In your inner spiritual life. You remain very restricted. I would say, how do you like a friend of yours who is very selfish?

    27. LH

      Mm. You don't like them as much.

    28. SS

      You don't like them.

    29. LH

      Yeah.

    30. SS

      Right? So don't want you to be, mm, seen as a someone who, who cares and shares with everybody.

  7. 24:32 – 27:17

    Loving Those Who Cause Harm

    1. LH

      How does someone love the people that do a lot of harm in the world, or that are causing a lot of pain, or that are hurting them personally? How does someone learn to love without being taken advantage of or, you know, abused or these things?

    2. SS

      Yes. Um, see, when you see someone is doing wrong, you can't love them straight away.

    3. LH

      Mm.

    4. SS

      It's impossible.

    5. LH

      Mm.

    6. SS

      And you'll try, you'll do all that you can. Then it will be failure.

    7. LH

      Yeah.

    8. SS

      First and foremost is we have to see every culprit as a victim inside them crying for help.

    9. LH

      Mm.

    10. SS

      If someone is doing wrong, why are they doing wrong?

    11. LH

      They're hurting inside.

    12. SS

      They are hurting inside. So when you see them from a wide angle lens, you see that they need help.

    13. LH

      Mm.

    14. SS

      See, every child who has come into this planet have come as a good baby. Lovely, happy, loving child. But in growing up or with lo- wrong information, lack of proper education, or an environment has made them what they are today. So they need no condemnation but compassion.

    15. LH

      Mm.

    16. SS

      So if you can reach out to them, reach out and, uh, understand them. And you know, when we start shaking hands with these people and make them understand where they are, what they are, they transform.

    17. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    18. SS

      You know, we have been doing this work in the prisons around the world. About 800,000 prisoners.

    19. LH

      Prisoners?

    20. SS

      Prisoners, yeah.

    21. LH

      Wow.

    22. SS

      The hardcore criminals, many of them. Total transformation.

    23. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    24. SS

      And you see they're not bad guys as we think they are.

    25. LH

      Right, just made bad decisions, yeah.

    26. SS

      Yeah. And circumstances and situation-

    27. LH

      Mm, of course

    28. SS

      ... put them where they are.

    29. LH

      Absolutely.

    30. SS

      And they're nice pe- good people.

  8. 27:17 – 34:51

    The Soul, Reincarnation, and Meditation's Wow

    1. LH

      You mentioned the soul's enthusiasm. I'm curious, in your, in your thoughts, when does the soul enter the body?

    2. SS

      The body, yeah.

    3. LH

      When does it enter the body? This is something I'm very fascinated about. When the body's being formed in the belly, when does the soul enter? And where is the soul? How big is the soul? Where is it? I'll start with that question first. [laughs]

    4. SS

      Now, I, if I ask the question, where are you in your body, what you would say?

    5. LH

      I'm everywhere in my body.

    6. SS

      Everywhere and yet nowhere.

    7. LH

      Right.

    8. SS

      That, that's exactly the soul.

    9. LH

      Mm.

    10. SS

      You know? Soul is that energy, that vibe.

    11. LH

      Energy vibes, is that what you said?

    12. SS

      Energy vibes.

    13. LH

      Mm.

    14. SS

      It's the vibrations inside of you.

    15. LH

      Vibrations, yeah.

    16. SS

      So it's not a substance, it's a light.

    17. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    18. SS

      So at the time of conception, uh, uh, you know, this energy comes in. Uh, sometimes at the third month or, uh, ninth month or when the child is, uh, is, is being born. At the time also, these vibes can change.

    19. LH

      Mm.

    20. SS

      Three, four times in, uh, in the total period of those nine months.

    21. LH

      Wait a minute. The soul can change?

    22. SS

      Yeah, the vibes of the souls can change.

    23. LH

      Vibes.

    24. SS

      Yeah.

    25. LH

      Or the souls can change.

    26. SS

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    27. LH

      Different souls can be-

    28. SS

      Mm-hmm

    29. LH

      Really?

    30. SS

      Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

  9. 34:51 – 39:14

    Life as Disneyland and Quick Tools for Stress and Anxiety

    1. LH

      What is something that's surprised you about the human condition in the last few years that maybe you weren't even aware of, something new you discovered? 'Cause I feel like you've learned so much at a very young age. Is there anything new that surprised you about human behavior, why humans are acting the way they act, you know?

    2. SS

      See, well, I learned to see the human, uh, behavior, human life like a movie. It's interesting. [laughs]

    3. LH

      [laughs] Yeah, it is.

    4. SS

      You know? Human interactions and, uh, uh, the way things go on, the way people, uh, behave, it's, um, it's an entertainment place. It's a Disneyland. I think we are in a perpetual Disneyland. [laughs]

    5. LH

      Yeah.

    6. SS

      We all live. So when you see this from that witness, when, when you don't get yourself immersed in it, in the happenings, then you can enjoy it.

    7. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    8. SS

      It's, it's again, very difficult to say where we are h- heading to. Yeah. So why people are doing what, whatever they are doing, you know, if you question this, one thing comes very clear, everybody's looking for some happiness.

    9. LH

      Why are they looking for it? Why don't they just be it?

    10. SS

      Just be it. Because they don't know.

    11. LH

      They don't know how to be happy.

    12. SS

      How, how to be happy, how to get to the space.

    13. LH

      What's the-

    14. SS

      But as children, we have been

    15. LH

      Right. It's easy to get there

    16. SS

      ... everywhere there. As kids, we all had that experience. And, uh, if you are wise, you understand life in-

    17. LH

      Mm-hmm

    18. SS

      ... the, with the broader perspective. You are there.

    19. LH

      What's the fastest way to be happy if you're feeling stressed or anxious?

    20. SS

      Number one, uh, you need some practical tools when you feel -

    21. LH

      Mm-hmm

    22. SS

      ... stressed and anxious. Any amount of talking doesn't help. I would recommend people to attend to their breath.

    23. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    24. SS

      Take long, deep breaths. Do some breathing exercises.

    25. LH

      Get back in the body.

    26. SS

      Get back in the body.

    27. LH

      Yeah.

    28. SS

      Learn about breathing exercises. Do some breathing techniques, number one. Second, see life from a bigger perspective. Like we began today, uh, remembering the death.

    29. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    30. SS

      Remember, yes, I'm going to kick the bucket, you know?

  10. 39:14 – 44:49

    Depression, Veterans, Purpose, and Simple Lives

    1. LH

      And where does depression come from? We talked about it a little bit, but anxiety and stress is one thing, but depression, why do people get depressed and stay in a depressed state? Is it only 'cause they're thinking of themselves, or they're-

    2. SS

      Again, I would say low, uh, energy.

    3. LH

      Low energy. Yeah.

    4. SS

      Low prana.

    5. LH

      Low prana.

    6. SS

      And suicidal tendency is also same thing. You know, when the prana goes so down, then you don't want to keep this body.

    7. LH

      Yeah.

    8. SS

      It's like having a very tight jacket. If your jacket is too tight, you just want to-

    9. LH

      Take it off. Yeah

    10. SS

      ... take it off.

    11. LH

      Yeah. [laughs]

    12. SS

      But it's not going to help when it's very cold and you're taking the jacket off. It's not going to help you.

    13. LH

      Right.

    14. SS

      Here again, when you increase your prana level-

    15. LH

      Mm-hmm

    16. SS

      ... your energy level-

    17. LH

      Breathing. Yeah

    18. SS

      ... breathing, meditation, all these practices.

    19. LH

      Service. Yeah.

    20. SS

      You are just, um, out of it.

    21. LH

      Yeah.

    22. SS

      You know, uh, here in America we have, uh, done these programs, welcome home troops for about 5,000, uh, veterans.

    23. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    24. SS

      You know, they were all very depressed and PTSD syndromes and, you know, post-traumatic stress center. Once they did the SKY, uh, exercises, the techniques, in three days, two days, three days, they were back, back to normal. They, they're back in themself.

    25. LH

      Their prana was higher.

    26. SS

      Their prana was higher, and their families were so happy. You know? You can't, you can't be happy if one of your family member is in depression.

    27. LH

      Mm.

    28. SS

      And the two head of the family is in depression. They are staying in the basement all day. You know, it, it impacts the entire family. So when they started doing these techniques and practice a little bit of meditation, short time, three, four days, five days, they are back to normal.

    29. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    30. SS

      And this has happened here. And same with the youngsters also in colleges, you know. We're teaching this, uh, SKY program in 101 universities all across-

  11. 44:49 – 52:39

    Radiating Energy, Negativity, Pain, and Staying Unburdened

    1. LH

      What happens when we radiate love energy or we radiate stress energy? If we're being that state, in that state of being, how is that energy radiating? How far does it radiate and ripple into others?

    2. SS

      I, uh, um... It depends on your, uh, centeredness, your disposition.

    3. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    4. SS

      That's how long it radiates.

    5. LH

      Mm-hmm. [laughs]

    6. SS

      See, each one of us are, um, just a fountain of love, fountain of joy, but somewhere it gets clogged. [laughs]

    7. LH

      Yeah.

    8. SS

      So you unclog it, then it, it, it's already available. Human potential, uh, is huge. It's humongous. I would say, uh, each individual can, uh, radiate so much of positivity-

    9. LH

      Yeah

    10. SS

      ... in the world, and that itself is a very big thing. It can nullify a lot of negativity around.

    11. LH

      Just having a positive energy.

    12. SS

      Absolutely.

    13. LH

      Yeah.

    14. SS

      Absolutely.

    15. LH

      What's more powerful, a positive energy or a negative state? Is it, is it easy to lift someone out of a negative state, or is it easier to pull someone down into a negative state if you're there?

    16. SS

      The... See, the easy or difficult is very comparative.

    17. LH

      Yeah. [laughs]

    18. SS

      It's very relative.

    19. LH

      Right.

    20. SS

      It depends on who is doing it.

    21. LH

      Sure.

    22. SS

      [laughs]

    23. LH

      And their energy. Yeah.

    24. SS

      Yeah, and their energy. For someone, it's very easy to get the negativity off like that.

    25. LH

      Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

    26. SS

      Now, for someone else, it's very difficult to suck them into negativity.

    27. LH

      Right.

    28. SS

      So it's a very, um, uh, it's very relative I would say.

    29. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    30. SS

      Mm-hmm. But one thing, um, people with negativity are more active than those with positivity. [laughs]

  12. 52:39 – 1:02:19

    Negative Self-Talk, Opinions of Others, and Meditation

    1. LH

      Speaking of the mind, why do you think so many people hold on to negative thoughts? Why do they say negative thoughts about themselves, think negative thoughts, and repeat it internally?

    2. SS

      See, neither at home nor in school have we ever been taught how to handle negative emotions.

    3. LH

      That's why we're here at The School of Greatness. [laughs]

    4. SS

      Never we were taught, right?

    5. LH

      Yeah.

    6. SS

      Nobody taught us how our breath is linked to our emotions and how emotions, uh, uh, and, uh, the sensation in different parts of the body are all linked.

    7. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    8. SS

      Nobody taught this, this wisdom. When we learn something about ourself, you know, about our body, our breath, mind, our intellect, our emotions, our memory, what do you... You know, if you are given 10 compliments and one insult, what you, what you hold on to?

    9. LH

      Most people hold on to the, the, uh, insult.

    10. SS

      Hold to the insult.

    11. LH

      Yeah, yeah.

    12. SS

      And 10 years of friendship and two months of, uh, conflict, uh, equalizes them.

    13. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    14. SS

      You know? It just erases the rest of it. So these tendencies of the mind, we have not understood, and that is what I call this whole program is Art of Living.

    15. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    16. SS

      Art of Happiness is, uh, learning about the seven layers of your own existence. Body, a little bit about our body, breath, mind, intellect, memory, ego. What is your ego? What is your, um, you know, self-pride or, um, how it interferes with you, with your behaviors, how it is necessary. If you have low self-esteem, how to get out of that.

    17. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    18. SS

      If you have hesitations inside of you, how to break that and why you draw boundaries around you and say, "This is what I am," rather than seeing little bit beyond, um, your own identity-

    19. LH

      Mm-hmm

    20. SS

      ... what you think as your identity. These are some very basic things, you know, that, uh, can trigger you. And uplift you to a happier state of mind.

    21. LH

      Yeah.

    22. SS

      And so these are the workshops we teach.

    23. LH

      Yeah.

    24. SS

      We have been teaching for the last 40 years now. [laughs]

    25. LH

      Wow.

    26. SS

      Yeah.

    27. LH

      You said the seven things: the body, the breath, the mind, intellect, memory, ego-

    28. SS

      And the self

    29. LH

      ... and the self.

    30. SS

      There's something deep inside you that doesn't change. Your body has changed-

  13. 1:02:19 – 1:08:12

    Mind, Consciousness, Memory, and SKY Breath Meditation

    1. LH

      Speaking of the mind, we talked about the soul. What is the mind compared to the soul, and where is the mind?

    2. SS

      Mind is the wave, soul is the ocean.

    3. LH

      Mind is the wave, soul is the ocean. Okay. Interesting. Where i- where is the mind... Is the mind also consciousness, or is the mind separate from consciousness?

    4. SS

      You see, mind is a function of consciousness.

    5. LH

      Okay.

    6. SS

      There is nothing separate from consciousness, including our body.

    7. LH

      So consciousness, the soul is in consciousness.

    8. SS

      Yeah.

    9. LH

      And the mind is in consciousness.

    10. SS

      Everything is in consciousness.

    11. LH

      Gotcha.

    12. SS

      It's like the space. Consciousness is like the space.

    13. LH

      Okay.

    14. SS

      What is not in space? Tell me.

    15. LH

      Everything's in space.

    16. SS

      Everything is in space.

    17. LH

      Right.

    18. SS

      That's it.

    19. LH

      So what is the difference between our consciousness and our mind?

    20. SS

      Our mind, uh, is a function of consciousness, which is chattering, which is expressing its emotions.

    21. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    22. SS

      You see? Um, and then it, it is called intellect when it start grabbing, grasping, and judging-

    23. LH

      Ah

    24. SS

      ... deciding. This is intellect. Mind is perception, you know. It's through the eyes, the mind sees. Through the nose, it smells. And through all the five senses, it's the mind which is experiencing.

    25. LH

      The, it's just... Yeah.

    26. SS

      If your mind is elsewhere and you are tasting a pudding, maybe apple pie, you don't taste it.

    27. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    28. SS

      You don't find the taste.

    29. LH

      [laughs] Right.

    30. SS

      And your mind is elsewhere, and, uh, um, music is being played, you don't hear it.

  14. 1:08:12 – 1:14:49

    Love, Relationships, and Staying Centered

    1. LH

      Love and relationships, it seems to be a great joy for a lot of people, but also causing a lot of stress and anxiety for people, depending on where they're at in their lives, the partner they chose, you know, all that stuff. You talk a lot about love and relationships. Why is it so... How do we find the right partner that is a great match, that adds the right values to what we're all about? And how important is choosing the right partner, or a partner that is aligned to your values and vision towards your life?

    2. SS

      See, if the partners come with a... W- they have a common goal in life, it's like two parallel line going to the-

    3. LH

      Mm-hmm

    4. SS

      ... going to the goal. They'll always be there.

    5. LH

      Yeah.

    6. SS

      But if they're focused on each other all the time, there is a point they come and they cross.

    7. LH

      What happens when you cross?

    8. SS

      That's it. You go away. [laughs]

    9. LH

      [laughs]

    10. SS

      You know, you keep going away. So, to, to make this point more clear, I would say, first of all, have a common goal.

    11. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    12. SS

      A purpose together.

    13. LH

      Within the relationship together.

    14. SS

      Together.

    15. LH

      Not just, "I have this goal. You have a goal."

    16. SS

      Yeah, yeah.

    17. LH

      But our common goal.

    18. SS

      Our common goal. Shared values. Number two is give a room for others... Give a room for others' mistakes.

    19. LH

      Mm. They don't have to be perfect.

    20. SS

      They don't need to be perfect.

    21. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    22. SS

      And that acceptance of others with their flaws.

    23. LH

      What happens when we don't accept the person who we, we've chose to be with? Certain things about them we don't accept, what happens to the relationship?

    24. SS

      Well, you can't expect everybody to be like you all the time.

    25. LH

      Yeah. [laughs]

    26. SS

      You have to give them some room, you know-

    27. LH

      Yeah

    28. SS

      ... to change. Even if you want them to change, you have to give them time and space for changing.

    29. LH

      Mm-hmm. You can't expect them to change right now.

    30. SS

      Right. No, it's not possible.

  15. 1:14:49 – 1:19:43

    The Three Truths, Greatness, and Closing

    1. LH

      This is a question I ask, um, towards the end of my interview. It's called the three truths. So I'd like you to imagine a hypothetical scenario. It's you're, you live a very long life, but then it's your last day on Earth, right? Um, hypothetical, and you continue to, uh, serve humanity in such a massive way, and help people heal, and be centered, and meditation, and breathing, all the things. You, you live that life, but for whatever reason, um, all of your message goes away. Your content, the courses, all the, all the videos, for whatever reason, it goes somewhere else, and we don't have access to it anymore. But you get to leave behind three lessons that you would share with the world, three things you know to be true from everything you've learned, and this is all we would have left from you. What would you say would be those three things, the three truths that you would leave behind?

    2. SS

      Smile.

    3. LH

      Yeah. [laughs]

    4. SS

      That's it.

    5. LH

      That's it?

    6. SS

      [laughs]

    7. LH

      If you had-

    8. SS

      Smile

    9. LH

      ... if you had-

    10. SS

      Smile, smile

    11. LH

      ... there you go, three truths. Why smile?

    12. SS

      What else to do? [laughs]

    13. LH

      Mm-hmm.

    14. SS

      You know, you came into this planet crying.

    15. LH

      [laughs]

    16. SS

      When you exit, you should smile.

    17. LH

      Mm. Yeah, and you should smile throughout your whole time here.

    18. SS

      Smile.

    19. LH

      There you go. That's some wisdom for you.

    20. SS

      Yeah. And if you have not smiled throughout your life, you will not even smile at the end.

    21. LH

      Mm.

    22. SS

      You'll only do what you have been doing all through.

    23. LH

      Be stressed, sad. Yeah.

    24. SS

      Mm-hmm. See, when you, when when you go into a movie, nice movie, you see the movie. When you come out of it, what do you say? "Oh, I enjoyed it. It was nice." That's good enough.

    25. LH

      Yeah.

    26. SS

      You don't have to carry all the story of the movie in your head. Usually, people don't. They see that, they enjoy it, and they come out, and that's it.

    27. LH

      Yeah.

    28. SS

      Same with the life. This is a movie, that, uh, you are imperishable. I am imperishable. We are part of... We appear to be two, but we are part of one life.

    29. LH

      Yeah. Yeah.

    30. SS

      Although there are so many waves, they all appear different, but they're part of one ocean.

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