i’m begging you to allow yourself to become wealthy | Jamie Sea

1. 0:00 – 1:05

   Creating Financial Abundance

   1. LHLewis Howes0:00

      Why are women more designed to create abundance in financial terms than men?

   2. JSJamie Sea0:07

      I would say the, the magic sauce for money, it is this balance of softness and love. The more deeply even men could be in touch with that side of themselves-

   3. LHLewis Howes0:17

      They unlock-

   4. JSJamie Sea0:18

      Unbelievable abundance. Unbelievable

   5. LHLewis Howes0:20

      She's an educator, an author, and an entrepreneur, who after building two seven-figure businesses, she walked away from all of it and rebuilt her life from scratch. We have the inspiring Jamie Sea in the house. What would you say then is blocking people's ability to make more money the most?

   6. JSJamie Sea0:36

      There's five specific layers: visibility, loyalty, responsibility. So when someone shows me a specific behavior, I can look and I can look at their social media, I can look at the way that they're communicating, and I know exactly what layer is activated.

   7. LHLewis Howes0:50

      What is the thing that is mentally blocking them or emotionally blocking them from creating more financial abundance?

   8. JSJamie Sea0:57

      So think about it this way, is when you are...

2. 1:05 – 2:49

   Nervous System & Money

   1. LHLewis Howes1:05

      How do our nervous system and our identity affect our ability to make more money?

   2. JSJamie Sea1:10

      That is a actually very interesting process. I think most people when they learn about the subconscious mind or learn about growth or the nervous system or identity work, it's in two separate camps. There's the subconscious mind camp, there's the nervous system camp, and I actually see them as one solid experience. The subconscious is everything that's taking in the story. Your identity is built in there.

   3. LHLewis Howes1:35

      Mm.

   4. JSJamie Sea1:35

      Everything that you know about yourself, the way you perceive what you can actually achieve, what you think is possible, uh, how safe it is for you to actually grow, what you believe is, uh, holding you back or keeping you where you are. And then the actual nervous system is the thing that's communicating directly with all of those stories and all of those perceived limitations. And the nervous system is then going to always be the one that's saying, "Hey, you're getting too close to where we are unfamiliar, and we're gonna pump the brakes."

   5. LHLewis Howes2:07

      Even if it's more money what people want?

   6. JSJamie Sea2:10

      And that is the interesting thing because you would say consciously, "I desire all of this growth. I want the bigger business," or, "I want to feel more confident." And the body is putting all of the brakes because it doesn't know how to actually familiarize itself there.

   7. LHLewis Howes2:25

      Mm.

   8. JSJamie Sea2:25

      And it shows up as the procrastination or hyper hustle or even this process of, you know, overthinking or feeling a lot more fear or a lot more doubt. All of the sensations that you're feeling in the body is direct communication and information from the subconscious mind about your identity.

   9. LHLewis Howes2:45

      So what would you say then is blocking people's ability to make more money

3. 2:49 – 6:47

   The #1 Money Block

   1. LHLewis Howes2:49

      the most?

   2. JSJamie Sea2:50

      I would say-

   3. LHLewis Howes2:50

      [clears throat]

   4. JSJamie Sea2:51

      ... the ability to receive. Because when we think about making money, there's so many ways, right? You, you can learn how to scale a business. You can learn how to launch a product. You can learn all of the ways to run ads-

   5. LHLewis Howes3:04

      Mm

   6. JSJamie Sea3:04

      ... or, you know, familiarize yourself with social media marketing. But the moment you actually have to sell or believe in yourself or communicate or be able to actually have conviction in what you have to offer, that is actually a receiving process-

   7. LHLewis Howes3:20

      Mm

   8. JSJamie Sea3:20

      ... more than it is a making money process.

   9. LHLewis Howes3:22

      So if someone hasn't learned how to receive-

   10. JSJamie Sea3:26

       Mm-hmm

   11. LHLewis Howes3:26

       ... more money, more abundance, more wealth, what is the process to actually learning how to feel safe to make more money and receive it and not feel overwhelmed or like they're gonna sabotage it?

   12. JSJamie Sea3:38

       An easy way to even familiarize yourself with receiving and what your relationship is with receiving is how do you receive a compliment?

   13. LHLewis Howes3:46

       Mm.

   14. JSJamie Sea3:46

       If someone is saying, "Oh my gosh, I love your shirt," or, "I love your hair," do you say, "Oh my gosh, I got it off the, the dollar rack," or, "I haven't washed my hair in, in, you know, five days," or, "Oh my gosh, this?" No. It's this deflecting. It's minimizing. It's pushing away. It's this unconscious, um, process where you just don't feel okay being witnessed, being chosen, being seen, being celebrated, and being okay with someone paying attention to you.

   15. LHLewis Howes4:16

       Why is receiving a compliment so hard for so many people then?

   16. JSJamie Sea4:19

       We have been raised to be more digestible-

   17. LHLewis Howes4:24

       Mm

   18. JSJamie Sea4:24

       ... to be the one who doesn't talk too loud, the one who is, you know, "Use your manners. Say ah. Stay this way."

   19. LHLewis Howes4:32

       [laughs]

   20. JSJamie Sea4:33

       "Do this." When you are in the process of making more money or selling or expanding yourself in any capacity, it doesn't even have to be with just money, you have to recognize that the way that you are able to stand in your bigness and stand in your greatness and stand in your ability to shine is something that is most likely learned-

   21. LHLewis Howes4:53

       Mm

   22. JSJamie Sea4:53

       ... and has to be learned over time. The majority of people have been taught to minimize because standing out could be this process of rejection, uh, and how your body receives rejection. It could be pointing the finger. "You're so... You're too much."

   23. LHLewis Howes5:10

       Mm.

   24. JSJamie Sea5:11

       You know, "Quiet down. Don't say, don't say that too loudly." And being able to receive that could almost be the ability of saying, "Oh, they might think that I am cocky," or, "They might think-

   25. LHLewis Howes5:24

       Mm-hmm

   26. JSJamie Sea5:24

       ... that I'm too much or full of myself."

   27. LHLewis Howes5:26

       Yeah.

   28. JSJamie Sea5:26

       When really it's just, "Thank you." Mm-hmm.

   29. LHLewis Howes5:29

       So how can someone learn to receive all the celebration, all the praise, all the abundance, all the opportunities for growth and success or money or what- whatever it might be, while also staying a good person and not being an egomaniac or a narcissist?

   30. JSJamie Sea5:45

       It starts with your relationship of how you speak to yourself.
4. 6:47 – 9:13

   Earn More Without Burnout

   1. LHLewis Howes6:47

      Both of us went down a path early in our business careers where we are driven to make more and hustle harder-

   2. JSJamie Sea6:53

      Mm

   3. LHLewis Howes6:53

      ... and do whatever it takes, and stay up all night, and just figure out ways to earn more in our business.

   4. JSJamie Sea6:58

      Mm.

   5. LHLewis Howes6:59

      And it leads to burnout when you live that way, and it also leads to a sense of, like, scarcity. It's like, "Okay, I'm doing more, but what's the purpose," right? How does someone learn how to earn more with less stress, with less scarcity, and be able to receive it and feel they are deserving and worthy of it? You could feel like, "Oh, my God, I just made all this money," and you really can blow it up in your mind. So how do we learn to do this?

   6. JSJamie Sea7:27

      Mm.

   7. LHLewis Howes7:28

      So it's just, yeah, of course, this money comes, it goes. It's okay either way.

   8. JSJamie Sea7:33

      With the process of deeply understanding your purpose and why you're doing things, it has to be rooted in a why.

   9. LHLewis Howes7:41

      Mm.

   10. JSJamie Sea7:41

       And most people, I'll actually sit with them and I say, "Why do you wanna make the money?"

   11. LHLewis Howes7:45

       Mm.

   12. JSJamie Sea7:46

       "Why do you wanna do these things?" And sometimes they'll say, "I wanna prove it to myself that I can," or, "I want to just have the... I wanna have all of these other things." And while there's nothing wrong with having all of the incredible, you know, a beautiful home, or the accolades, or all of the things to prove to yourself that you can, there has to be something deeper-

   13. LHLewis Howes8:08

       Mm

   14. JSJamie Sea8:08

       ... besides what you're achieving. And if it's only the money, if it's only the praise, if it's only the likes, if it's only the opportunities, that is always gonna be fleeting because we are creating a felt sense of, "I'm okay when the money comes in."

   15. LHLewis Howes8:24

       Mm.

   16. JSJamie Sea8:24

       "I'm okay when I'm praised. I'm okay only when someone else validates me, when I get a like, or when I get a follow, or when I reach this new goal." And that's why most people, when they slow down, end up feeling this sense of anxiety, never enough-itis. "I have to reach the next goal." They reach the goal, they keep moving, and then they can't ever slow down, is because they aren't actually creating safety within their own body and their own-

   17. LHLewis Howes8:51

       Mm

   18. JSJamie Sea8:51

       ... nervous system. And it has to be the other way around-

   19. LHLewis Howes8:55

       Mm

   20. JSJamie Sea8:55

       ... versus everything outside of me creates my safety, and my okayness, and my enoughness versus I am okay, I am enough, I am good, and I create from that space. And everything else is just a byproduct of how, how I see myself.

   21. LHLewis Howes9:12

       I can see people,

5. 9:13 – 14:02

   Finding Internal Safety

   1. LHLewis Howes9:13

      you know, watching or listening saying, "Well, but if I'm broke, I'm not okay."

   2. JSJamie Sea9:17

      Mm.

   3. LHLewis Howes9:17

      "I'm living in scarcity, so I-"

   4. JSJamie Sea9:19

      Mm-hmm

   5. LHLewis Howes9:19

      ... "don't feel okay. So how do I start to feel okay inside of me when I'm month to month, you know, I've got all these responsibilities, I'm barely sleeping, I'm working a couple jobs, and I'm in debt. I made some bad decisions from the past, or I took these student loans out and I wish I didn't," whatever it might be.

   6. JSJamie Sea9:36

      Mm.

   7. LHLewis Howes9:36

      How does someone feel safety within themselves when they have no certainty outside of them?

   8. JSJamie Sea9:41

      As someone who was broke the majority of my life, I understand this on every cellular structure of my body.

   9. LHLewis Howes9:48

      [laughs]

   10. JSJamie Sea9:49

       I get it. I would say that the first thing is compassion with yourself, patience with yourself, and understanding that it's okay that it feels hard right now.

   11. LHLewis Howes9:59

       Mm.

   12. JSJamie Sea9:59

       It's okay that you don't have certainty right now. And the next thing to kind of anchor into even more deeply is where is there already abundance within me? Where is there already abundance available? Because when we are in a state of survival, when we are in a state of fight or flight, when we are in a state of I am not okay because I don't have enough in the bank account, which is a very valid reason-

   13. LHLewis Howes10:24

       Yes

   14. JSJamie Sea10:24

       ... and I'll never invalidate anyone for feeling that. Very, very, very, very real and a deeply emotional experience. However, when we actually take just a moment each day and prioritize what is already here for me, can I, can I turn on the faucet? Is there water?

   15. LHLewis Howes10:42

       Mm.

   16. JSJamie Sea10:42

       Can I go and look at the trees, and can I see how many leaves, how many blades of grass, how many people there are? Can I sit and look at my child in the eyes and notice how much magic is here? Can I open the fridge and have an apple?

   17. LHLewis Howes10:58

       [laughs]

   18. JSJamie Sea10:59

       Where is there already abundance that's here that you can anchor into?

   19. LHLewis Howes11:03

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JSJamie Sea11:03

       Because we cannot create clarity and solid momentum and movement when we are in the survival part of the brain. So if you can even just take a moment just to, even if it's not the life you wanna live right now, even if you're not at all where you wanna be, finding it on purpose in small incremental moments so that your body can relax, your body can feel calm, and then you can take action and take the mo- momentum and movement, and it will be so much more powerful that way.

   21. LHLewis Howes11:32

       Mm. You mostly work with a lot of women, correct?

   22. JSJamie Sea11:34

       About 95%-

   23. LHLewis Howes11:35

       Yeah

   24. JSJamie Sea11:35

       ... are women.

   25. LHLewis Howes11:35

       Yeah. I'm curious, from your perspective, why are women more designed to create abundance in financial terms than men, in your mind?

   26. JSJamie Sea11:46

       I would say that women have an ability to experience such a maternal aspect of caretaking and such a deep understanding of there's so much that we have innately built within us that is soft, that is gentle, and we have a really beautiful balance of the masculine and the feminine energy.

   27. LHLewis Howes12:13

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JSJamie Sea12:13

       So we can really deeply hold space for ourselves and hold space for others, which is really the- [sighs] I would say the, the magic sauce for money. It is this balance of softness and love and caretaking, and then there's this structure, and there's this, these boundaries that we can put in, and the mixture together. I'm not saying that that's not available to men at all.

   29. LHLewis Howes12:38

       Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

   30. JSJamie Sea12:38

       But I think that men have, all... I mean, all of us have been built into the patriarchal aspect of our society, and I would say that the more deeply even men could be in touch with that side of themselves-
6. 14:02 – 21:05

   The Wealth Container

   1. LHLewis Howes14:02

      and coach, [smacks lips] what is the biggest money barrier that they have that's blocking them from financial abundance? And what is the, the number one thing that when they start implementing it, money just starts to flow?

   2. JSJamie Sea14:19

      There's multiple layers of this. Uh, the way that I actually work with this within my clients is I think about this as the Wealth Container. So this is the nervous system subconscious experience of what does my body feel safe enough to hold and expand and receive? And there's five specific layers: visibility, loyalty, responsibility, and we have ease and identity. And when we look through these specific layers, they show up very specifically. So when someone shows me a specific behavior, I can look and I can look at their social media. I can look at the way that they're communicating, and I know exactly what layer is activated. And I would say the-

   3. LHLewis Howes15:03

      Hmm

   4. JSJamie Sea15:03

      ... majority of them fall between two of them, which is responsibility and loyalty. Responsibility is, especially for those at a younger age who held a lot more responsibility, they have become the hyper-independent ones, the hypervigilant ones, the women who will feel like they have to do everything themselves, and you get to a place, and you know this just as well as anyone else who, who runs a business, that you can't do it all alone.

   5. LHLewis Howes15:30

      No.

   6. JSJamie Sea15:31

      You can't do it alone.

   7. LHLewis Howes15:33

      Yeah.

   8. JSJamie Sea15:33

      So you'll see them, uh, with the inability to outsource or trust others.

   9. LHLewis Howes15:37

      Mm-hmm.

   10. JSJamie Sea15:37

       They will drive themselves into hours and hours and hours when they honestly could create so much spaciousness if they just focused on the things that they actually truly thrived in.

   11. LHLewis Howes15:49

       Hmm.

   12. JSJamie Sea15:49

       All of their life force energy would come back, and they'd be massively powerful. I mean, just the amount of magnetism that would pour from them would be-

   13. LHLewis Howes15:57

       Hmm

   14. JSJamie Sea15:57

       ... unbelievable if they just allowed support in.

   15. LHLewis Howes16:00

       Wow.

   16. JSJamie Sea16:01

       That's the receiving aspect as well.

   17. LHLewis Howes16:02

       Wow.

   18. JSJamie Sea16:03

       Support in there. And then the second one would be the loyalty, which is, I mean, on a biological level, we all want to belong. We don't want to be othered. We don't want to look different. We don't want to be pointed at or laughed at or ostracized. And it's the moment when we recognize that if you are an entrepreneur, you are going to face all of the parts of yourself that need to be witnessed.

   19. LHLewis Howes16:28

       Hmm.

   20. JSJamie Sea16:28

       And one of the biggest things is the fear of outgrowing the people that raised them.

   21. LHLewis Howes16:33

       Oh.

   22. JSJamie Sea16:34

       Ugh.

   23. LHLewis Howes16:34

       I know that one. [laughs]

   24. JSJamie Sea16:36

       Looking different than the people that raised you, even though-

   25. LHLewis Howes16:39

       Your friends-

   26. JSJamie Sea16:39

       ... if on a-

   27. LHLewis Howes16:39

       ... your community, your family-

   28. JSJamie Sea16:41

       Mm-hmm

   29. LHLewis Howes16:41

       ... whatever it might be, right?

   30. JSJamie Sea16:42

       Being different and being-
7. 21:05 – 28:54

   Hustle vs. Magnetic Mindset

   1. LHLewis Howes21:05

      for me energetically.

   2. JSJamie Sea21:06

      Mm-hmm.

   3. LHLewis Howes21:06

      Someone watching or listening is like, "I've got this project or this idea or this launch or this thing that I really wanna put out there, and I've either been working on it or I'm planning to start it right now and hopefully launch it in the next couple of months," whatever it might be. This new journey of this side project or this business or something. And one of them is like, "I'm broke. I don't have anything. This has to work out or I'm screwed."

   4. JSJamie Sea21:30

      Mm-hmm.

   5. LHLewis Howes21:31

      And they're coming from a place of scarcity or n- need.

   6. JSJamie Sea21:34

      Mm-hmm.

   7. LHLewis Howes21:34

      The other one is, "I'm broke, but I'm creating this from a place of expansion and abundance. I hope it works out. I'm gonna give it my all, and I'm gonna bring my unique gifts, my joy, my love, my, my, my excitement every single moment to this, no matter what the result is." What is the difference between those two individuals energetically over the next few months if they consistently do those same things?

   8. JSJamie Sea22:00

      The person that you mentioned first, the one who is saying, "This has to work," the one thing I will say is they're most likely in a process of outsourcing all of their trust to someone else. They're in the process of outsourcing everything on something outside of themselves.

   9. LHLewis Howes22:18

      Mm.

   10. JSJamie Sea22:19

       So what I mean by this is that when people are in this process of it needs to work, they're usually very strategy heavy. They're very much in the process of asking everyone else's opinion. They're probably over-consuming everything on social media, implementing every, every strategy. Maybe even having someone say, "This is the strategy you should do to be successful," but maybe it's not that feels good to them, and they haven't learned what actually feels good to them because a strategy can only work if it works for you-

   11. LHLewis Howes22:51

       Mm

   12. JSJamie Sea22:51

       ... if it feels good for you because there's millions of strategies, and they generally will work if the energy-

   13. LHLewis Howes22:57

       Yeah

   14. JSJamie Sea22:57

       ... is consistent behind it.

   15. LHLewis Howes22:58

       Yeah.

   16. JSJamie Sea22:58

       And if this person was to continue this way, they're most likely going to feel a lot of self-doubt along the way. Even if it does work, it'll probably be a place where they have a difficult time receiving it.

   17. LHLewis Howes23:12

       Mm.

   18. JSJamie Sea23:13

       The fear of it, the other shoe dropping of, now that I have it, I have to keep going, otherwise everything will fall apart because if you come from the energy of I'm broke, I'm... Everything is, everything is scarce, everything... I have to work so, so hard to get there, that energy doesn't go away immediately when something comes to you.

   19. LHLewis Howes23:33

       No, it almost amplifies.

   20. JSJamie Sea23:34

       It doesn't. No, but it, it brings... It highlights it, and it, it gets even bigger.

   21. LHLewis Howes23:37

       Yeah.

   22. JSJamie Sea23:37

       And that's why so many entrepreneurs burn themselves out is because they're operating from the mentality of somebody who had to make it work.

   23. LHLewis Howes23:45

       Mm-hmm.

   24. JSJamie Sea23:45

       And they've never adapted to this person who can trust themselves. They've never actually proof stacked that they've always figured it out.

   25. LHLewis Howes23:53

       Yeah.

   26. JSJamie Sea23:53

       They've always been okay, even if it wasn't the ideal outcome.

   27. LHLewis Howes23:56

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JSJamie Sea23:57

       Energetically for the second person, they-

   29. LHLewis Howes23:59

       Who's coming from a place of-

   30. JSJamie Sea24:00

       Of abundance
8. 28:54 – 32:07

   Overcoming Money Shame

   1. LHLewis Howes28:54

      around money, how does that block their ability to receive more?

   2. JSJamie Sea28:59

      I think there's layers there, and it's individual to each person of, you know, was this shame because of the potential mistakes that you think you made with... I see this with the stories around debt, the stories around-

   3. LHLewis Howes29:12

      Mm-hmm

   4. JSJamie Sea29:12

      ... you know, people who had to take out a credit card or, you know, do the loans, and they're paying things off, and there's a lot of embarrassment of thinking, "I should have made a better decision," or an investment in a, in a coach or in an opportunity and it didn't come through.

   5. LHLewis Howes29:25

      Mm-hmm.

   6. JSJamie Sea29:25

      And there's shame because I, I should have gotten it, right? I should have known better, when you did the best you could with the knowledge that you had at the time. And I would also say that there's sometimes layers of shame around people who were raised by people who struggled, who maybe thought of money a certain way. You know, we're constantly getting feedback and data every moment of every day, especially in our childhood, and it shows up as, you know, your parents fighting about money.

   7. LHLewis Howes30:00

      Mm-hmm.

   8. JSJamie Sea30:01

      The subtle, "Bill has to be paid," and the huff and the puff or the fight that's happening, and you have to close the door to not hear it, or the, "We can't afford it," or, "That's too expensive," or, "Who does that person think they are?" And you create this internalized experience of whatever you associate the people that are, are raising me, associate with those people, that thing, and then you desire it later on in life. There's a mix of emotion there.

   9. LHLewis Howes30:32

      Mm.

   10. JSJamie Sea30:32

       I want to be successful. I desire because I have a big dream and I have a big goal, but I also am really deeply embarrassed to want something that I was maybe raised to believe was bad.

   11. LHLewis Howes30:43

       Mm-hmm. Did you have that growing up?

   12. JSJamie Sea30:46

       I did, although I- I- I'm always very careful about-

   13. LHLewis Howes30:51

       Mm-hmm

   14. JSJamie Sea30:51

       ... anything that I say about my, my upbringing, mainly because with my parents, they really did the best they could. My father was, you know, the caretaker for a lot of, you know, he has a lot of [laughs] a lot of siblings, and he did the best he could, and he was raised on the you work hard.

   15. LHLewis Howes31:10

       Mm-hmm.

   16. JSJamie Sea31:11

       And he was at work all the time. And my mother, uh, you know, she worked really, really, really, really hard as well, and it was, uh, i- I think a lack of awareness-

   17. LHLewis Howes31:23

       Mm-hmm

   18. JSJamie Sea31:23

       ... a lack of knowledge, a lack of understanding, and you, you just take the story in.

   19. LHLewis Howes31:29

       Yeah.

   20. JSJamie Sea31:29

       And it's... You, you, you choose at some point to recognize that, is the story mine or is it someone else's?

   21. LHLewis Howes31:35

       Mm-hmm.

   22. JSJamie Sea31:35

       And do I wanna believe that story anymore?

   23. LHLewis Howes31:37

       Yeah.

   24. JSJamie Sea31:38

       But it was definitely kind of an imprint-

   25. LHLewis Howes31:41

       Yeah, sure

   26. JSJamie Sea31:41

       ... of believing that people that were wealthy were bad, bad people.

   27. LHLewis Howes31:44

       Really?

   28. JSJamie Sea31:44

       And even to this day, my father will even say, "I don't understand how you have success and you don't scam people."

   29. LHLewis Howes31:52

       Oh, my gosh.

   30. JSJamie Sea31:53

       Or, "I don't understand how you are so giving, or why you donate so much, or why you give back to people so much."
9. 32:07 – 37:06

   Human Design in Business

   1. JSJamie Sea32:07

      And I said, "You know, Dad, I, I think that both can be true. I think there can be good people, and I think there can be good people with money, and there can be good people without money, and there can be people that don't have the highest value system with money, without money." But the one thing that I will always say to him is that money is a n- is neutral, and when someone receives it, it only highlights their value system. So if you're a good person and you don't have a lot of resources, you likely will donate your time.

   2. LHLewis Howes32:36

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JSJamie Sea32:36

      You will be there for other people, and then when you actually have more resources, you can help even more. And that's the value system I operate on, and I think that's the value system he always operated on as well, and he just never saw it as like, oh, you can be, you can be an multi-eight figure founder and also be the kindest, loving, generous human.

   4. LHLewis Howes33:01

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JSJamie Sea33:01

      Like, they can live together. So it was a very much a, a disbelief process for him.

   6. LHLewis Howes33:05

      Wow. For women who have been working really hard for maybe 10-plus years, who are finally starting to break free-

   7. JSJamie Sea33:14

      Mm

   8. LHLewis Howes33:14

      ... financially, they're getting to that six-figure, multiple six-figure, multiple seven-figure mark in their business, but they're feeling burnt out and exhausted, what type of wisdom do you share with those individuals?

   9. JSJamie Sea33:28

      This is the work that I do with a lot of my high-level clients, and it's the most beautiful work, and I'm so beyond grateful to be able to, to see them grow and to see them with this because a lot of them are experiencing so much growth and so much expansion all at once. And the wisdom that I will always share with them is through the lens of three things, which is the subconscious, the nervous system, and then also human design.

   10. LHLewis Howes33:58

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JSJamie Sea33:58

       Human design really takes in a lot of the way that your energy naturally flows, the, the way that you decide, the way that you move. And a lot of times what ends up happening is we create this idea of, this is how you are meant to grow. This is how you are meant to build a business. This is how you are supposed to do it. Even if I hurt myself along the way-

   12. LHLewis Howes34:21

       Mm-hmm

   13. JSJamie Sea34:21

       ... even if my body's exhausted along the way, this is, this is what it takes in the pursuit of greatness to reach my goals. And when I actually audit the way that their design is, they've been going against the way that their energy actually-

   14. LHLewis Howes34:36

       Mm-hmm

   15. JSJamie Sea34:36

       ... moves the entire time. I'll give you an example. So some people listening right now might not actually be familiar with, with human design, but one of the most incredible things that you could ever learn is just the way that you are actually meant to have your energy move in your business. Because some of my clients are w- they're generator types, and so if you're not familiar what this is, this is the, the type of people who are meant to only say yes and only do the things in their business that are a full body yes, and it always comes from the sacral, which is in the gut. So it's either a move forward or a move back. And most entrepreneurs are making decisions from the neck up.

   16. LHLewis Howes35:16

       Mm.

   17. JSJamie Sea35:16

       They're running their business from the neck up, and no one is actually meant to make a decision from the brain. And each of us are designed so beautifully and uniquely to decide to move to create, and you reserve so much more life force energy, and you cannot possibly burn out when you actually implement those, those three things with the subconscious, the nervous system, and human design. So one of my clients is a generator type.

   18. LHLewis Howes35:40

       Mm.

   19. JSJamie Sea35:40

       Sacral. Hell yes, hell no. Um, it's... The, the best advice I was ever given is, if it's not a hell yes, it is a hell no.

   20. LHLewis Howes35:48

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JSJamie Sea35:48

       There's no hell maybe. [laughs] And, uh, she had had colitis her whole life, stomach issues her whole life. Within four months of working with me, gone.

   22. LHLewis Howes35:59

       Wow. She-

   23. JSJamie Sea35:59

       Because her body was fighting her the whole way.

   24. LHLewis Howes36:02

       Mm-hmm.

   25. JSJamie Sea36:02

       And she was now creating from, do I actually want to do this? Do I want to do that? And her body would say yes or it would say no, and everything she said yes, her magnetism was unbelievable.

   26. LHLewis Howes36:13

       Wow.

   27. JSJamie Sea36:13

       The amount of clients that would come in, the amount of... She's like, "Uh, my videos are getting millions of, millions of reach, a- and that never happened before." And the one thing that truly helps women, uh, honestly anyone at that level of, of growth, immense growth, is understanding how your body works because at that point it's not a strategy game. It's, it's an internal expansion game.

   28. LHLewis Howes36:39

       Mm-hmm.

   29. JSJamie Sea36:39

       It's always, it's always that. And you ask anyone who's, who's massively successful that, yes, there's strategy involved, but it's really only running 5% of your business. Everything else is you.

   30. LHLewis Howes36:52

       Yeah
10. 37:06 – 44:43

    Fear of Visibility

    1. LHLewis Howes37:06

       or emotionally blocking them from creating more financial abundance?

    2. JSJamie Sea37:09

       Visibility.

    3. LHLewis Howes37:10

       What does that mean?

    4. JSJamie Sea37:11

       So think about it this way, is when you are, when you are marketing, just in general, okay? So you have a business.

    5. LHLewis Howes37:20

       Uh-huh.

    6. JSJamie Sea37:20

       Now you gotta go and create the content. You gotta do it all.

    7. LHLewis Howes37:22

       You gotta put yourself out there. Yeah, yeah.

    8. JSJamie Sea37:23

       You gotta put yourself out there.

    9. LHLewis Howes37:24

       And what if no one likes it?

    10. JSJamie Sea37:25

        What if no one likes it?

    11. LHLewis Howes37:25

        What if no one comments? What if no one buys?

    12. JSJamie Sea37:27

        How do I feel with me being me?

    13. LHLewis Howes37:32

        Ooh.

    14. JSJamie Sea37:32

        Am I even me?

    15. LHLewis Howes37:33

        Am I good enough?

    16. JSJamie Sea37:34

        There's a performative energy that also happens. I'll see them behind the scenes, and they're funny, and they're chill, and they're relaxed, and they're quirky, and they're fu- like, just so funny. And then all of a sudden they put the camera up and they're like...

    17. LHLewis Howes37:46

        Right. [laughs]

    18. JSJamie Sea37:47

        This performative voice.

    19. LHLewis Howes37:48

        Uh-huh.

    20. JSJamie Sea37:48

        And like, wh- no. Like it-

    21. LHLewis Howes37:50

        20 takes. Yeah, you're trying to make it perfect

    22. JSJamie Sea37:52

        Exactly. The, the h- there has to be this script. I have to, I have to follow the rules. I have to do this thing for it to work. And you find that the ones that truly honor what it takes to be seen and to honor all of the emotional experiences that come with that, because how can you support yourself if someone says something about you, if someone doesn't like what you do, if someone doesn't like how you look, if they don't l- if you say something that i- goes against the grain, uh, that someone doesn't believe in, if somebody, you know, says, "I don't actually believe you. I don't think you're doing great"?

    23. LHLewis Howes38:31

        Ooh.

    24. JSJamie Sea38:31

        How can you hold that energy within your own body and say, "I know who I am. I know what I believe"? That's the internal work. Because the more you can do that, the more you can support yourself with just that alone, like, no matter what anyone says, if it hurts me, if it, if it affects my body on some level, there's a part of me that's, that might believe that's true.

    25. LHLewis Howes38:58

        Mm.

    26. JSJamie Sea38:59

        And that's the work.

    27. LHLewis Howes39:00

        What if it is true?

    28. JSJamie Sea39:01

        If it is true, like, how can I honor that?

    29. LHLewis Howes39:04

        Mm.

    30. JSJamie Sea39:04

        How can I... And it's usually wherever there's that raw energy of like, "Oh, that freaking hurt. Ugh." That was a gut punch, right? Or if someone says something that you are deeply insecure about your whole life, and they say something about it, you're gonna not show up in your power. You're gonna not... You're gonna, you're gonna hold back. You're going to want to hide in some capacity.
11. 44:43 – 51:43

    Stop Strategy Hopping

    1. JSJamie Sea44:43

       of all of that.

    2. LHLewis Howes44:44

       The two strategies for you then, the tactical strategy that you're using right now that is working-

    3. JSJamie Sea44:49

       Mm-hmm

    4. LHLewis Howes44:49

       ... and the internal strategy or internal way of being-

    5. JSJamie Sea44:53

       Mm-hmm

    6. LHLewis Howes44:53

       ... that shows up most effective when you implement a launch, trying to market your business. What are those two things?

    7. JSJamie Sea45:02

       From a strategic standpoint, something that's always been very natural for me is picking up my phone and just saying what I wanna say.

    8. LHLewis Howes45:10

       Mm-hmm.

    9. JSJamie Sea45:10

       I'm not a script person. I cannot do a sc- like, my brain just goes offline. Uh, and, and a lot of the times when I'm actually talking, I just have this little download that's like, "This is the topic that I wanna talk about."

    10. LHLewis Howes45:22

        Mm-hmm. And you just riff.

    11. JSJamie Sea45:23

        And I riff.

    12. LHLewis Howes45:24

        Wow.

    13. JSJamie Sea45:25

        The one thing that I will say I'm very intentional about, and it's the way that my brain has kind of always functioned, however I've kind of mapped how it functions and then taught it to people-

    14. LHLewis Howes45:35

        Mm-hmm

    15. JSJamie Sea45:35

        ... so that they can be intentional about that, which is I never make content just to make content. I think about where I want someone to go first, whether that's to a resource, whether that's to a, a video that I want them to watch, whether that's, uh, a workshop that I'm teaching, whether that's an invitation-

    16. LHLewis Howes45:53

        Mm-hmm

    17. JSJamie Sea45:54

        ... to have a DM conversation. I'm always thinking about-

    18. LHLewis Howes45:57

        Mm-hmm

    19. JSJamie Sea45:57

        ... where do I want them to go first? What is the thing that is actually going to make that the inevitable next step? And then I riff to that point.

    20. LHLewis Howes46:06

        So you know where to send people at the end, essentially.

    21. JSJamie Sea46:08

        Yeah.

    22. LHLewis Howes46:08

        Yeah.

    23. JSJamie Sea46:08

        'Cause a lot of times people are like, "Oh, I'll just talk about these three things," but it doesn't make sense. And then they're like, "Uh, what do I do now?"

    24. LHLewis Howes46:15

        [laughs] Yeah.

    25. JSJamie Sea46:16

        [laughs] What do I, where do I send them now?

    26. LHLewis Howes46:17

        What do I say people? [laughs]

    27. JSJamie Sea46:17

        Like, where do I s- but it, it, it's actually a reverse engineering process. And then the internal state, I will say, is that from my human design, I'm a human design projector, which means I think in systems. I see problems. I see things that people don't see-

    28. LHLewis Howes46:30

        Mm-hmm

    29. JSJamie Sea46:31

        ... within themselves very, very easily, and I see patterns. Um, actually, um, part of my design is pattern recognition, so I can see a pattern a mile away-

    30. LHLewis Howes46:41

        Mm-hmm
12. 51:43 – 57:07

    Overcoming Indecision

    1. LHLewis Howes51:43

       A lot of people all say, "You know, I've got so many ideas."

    2. JSJamie Sea51:46

       [laughs]

    3. LHLewis Howes51:47

       "I've got so many ideas."

    4. JSJamie Sea51:48

       Mm-hmm.

    5. LHLewis Howes51:49

       "I've got... I wanna launch a book, and I wanna do this course. I wanna do, blah, blah." They've got... "I don't know what to do." How does someone make a decision on how they're gonna make their money?

    6. JSJamie Sea51:57

       Well, one thing that I will say is that a lot of that is actually a nervous system response. That's overwhe- that's classic overwhelm of all of these things, right? And the body will actually do that on purpose so that you won't move.

    7. LHLewis Howes52:12

       Mm.

    8. JSJamie Sea52:13

       It's actually a very subtle nervous system response of, "If I keep you more overwhelmed, if I keep you in lack of clarity, then you stay as you are." And that's the nervous system and the subconscious' job. We're not primed for success, which is why this work is so important, but it's, its job, "I will keep you in what I know, in how you were raised, and what beliefs you have, and how you see the world, and how you see yourself, and I will keep you in what I know is familiar, even if it's not what you want." So that actually is classic nervous system.

    9. LHLewis Howes52:46

       Yeah.

    10. JSJamie Sea52:47

        And it is only until that person is able to find clarity and safety in the body and come from a regulated space and then also understand how they make decisions. Because, for example, some people make decisions, like my youngest is self-projected, um, coming back to Human Design, which means she can only make a decision when she hears clarity coming from her voice. So it looks like, "Sweetie, do you want cheese? Do you want an apple? Do you want a smoothie?" And then she's like, "Ooh, I want cheese. No, actually, I don't. I think-

    11. LHLewis Howes53:22

        Mm-hmm

    12. JSJamie Sea53:22

        ... I want pancakes. No, I want cereal."

    13. LHLewis Howes53:24

        Mm.

    14. JSJamie Sea53:24

        And to someone else, that could look like you don't know how to make up your mind. You're wishy-washy. You're indecisive, when really she's finding the yes in her voice.

    15. LHLewis Howes53:32

        Mm.

    16. JSJamie Sea53:32

        For me, I'm a splenic, so mine's intuition. It's very quiet.

    17. LHLewis Howes53:36

        You just know right away.

    18. JSJamie Sea53:36

        I just know it-

    19. LHLewis Howes53:37

        Yeah

    20. JSJamie Sea53:37

        ... and it doesn't make sense. Someone who's a sacral, it's like it's either there or it's not, but if you're always here, if you're always in the head, you're never gonna understand-

    21. LHLewis Howes53:46

        Mm

    22. JSJamie Sea53:47

        ... what feels right for you. You know, once you're really in tune to that and you trust it, because we've only built trust from the mind. And I would say for somebody who's like, "I just don't know where to start," if all things of all possibilities equaled success, if every single outcome, if the book launch, the podcast launch, the product launch, all of it resulted in your happiness, all of it resulted in your joy, the money, all of it, what feels like something you can put energy into that feels exciting? Like, the thing that you can do now. Let's just say you could even do a podcast, a little... Let's say you could do it all, but maybe not all right now.

    23. LHLewis Howes54:26

        Mm-hmm.

    24. JSJamie Sea54:26

        What do you in this nervous system state, this season of your life, nervous system capacity, your actual season of life, you might be a new mother, you might be, you know, um, you know, coming out of a difficult grief season, what do you have capacity, what's easiest for you to feel like you can put your energy in without it backfiring the level of, "This is too much for me"? Because some people are like, "I wanna launch the podcast," but it's not really what they're ready for right now.

    25. LHLewis Howes54:58

        Mm-hmm.

    26. JSJamie Sea54:59

        It doesn't feel energetically aligned right now. And even if it's the thing that you feel is not the thing that you think you should be doing- Starting in a place that's easier on the body will always result in a better outcome.

    27. LHLewis Howes55:12

        Yeah, it's interesting. When I was broke in my 20s, um, living on my sister's couch, I had a mentor-

    28. JSJamie Sea55:19

        Mm

    29. LHLewis Howes55:19

        ... that I was working with for many months. And at one point, I was like, "Gosh, I just, I just don't know what I need to do to make more money."

    30. JSJamie Sea55:27

        Mm.
13. 57:07 – 1:00:21

    Navigating Massive Success

    1. LHLewis Howes57:07

       for you.

    2. JSJamie Sea57:08

       Mm-hmm.

    3. LHLewis Howes57:08

       So when you started to make... 'Cause you've had kind of two different paths, a path sh- where you were generating, you know, multiple seven figures in a business prior before this work.

    4. JSJamie Sea57:18

       Mm.

    5. LHLewis Howes57:18

       And then a path where you cr- exceeded well beyond that after you started doing nervous system work around money and business. When you started to unlock financial freedom at a whole new level, where it felt effortless, where it felt in your own human design, where it felt like, oh, I'm just in my natural feminine flow.

    6. JSJamie Sea57:40

       Mm.

    7. LHLewis Howes57:41

       Was there ever a moment where it became too scary 'cause you were like, "This is so much money that I didn't even know was possible-

    8. JSJamie Sea57:47

       Mm

    9. LHLewis Howes57:47

       ... at this level of ease"? And when that came, how did you navigate that?

    10. JSJamie Sea57:52

        The moment it felt like, whoa, whoa, we're at a, we're at another, we're at another level, was actually when [laughs] I said, I said to my husband, I was like, "I think we need a financial advisor."

    11. LHLewis Howes58:05

        [laughs]

    12. JSJamie Sea58:06

        I think we need... I, I think we, I think we have a lot in our bank account a- and, and I don't, um, what do we do with this?

    13. LHLewis Howes58:12

        Oh.

    14. JSJamie Sea58:13

        Like, what, what do we... I, I don't, what am, what is this? And it was just, it was just all coming in, and I was like, okay.

    15. LHLewis Howes58:19

        Now what?

    16. JSJamie Sea58:21

        Okay. So I remember sitting down with him, and he's like, "Okay, well yeah, let's, I think, I think we're ready for that." And so we, we got the financial advisors. We had the weekly calls with, with them. We're moving things around. And it was one of those moments where I had to really deeply sit with the fact that we were on a completely different level, and it felt very new, and there was a lot of new decisions that I had to make. There was a lot of different kinds of conversations that I had to have. There was [laughs] it was just, it was on a completely unfamiliar level, and I think a lot of people would've been very easily triggered back into, "I'm just gonna not show up online anymore."

    17. LHLewis Howes59:03

        Really? Yeah.

    18. JSJamie Sea59:03

        Like very subtle self-sabotage that you don't really real- 'cause it's like, oh, I have to, I have to call and I have to, I have to have these conversations. I have to do things that are different. I have to, you know, invest, or I have to do these things that maybe you're not familiar with. And it can easily show up in a very subtle way. So that was a big moment for, for me where it felt very stretchy. Oh, we are in a completely different caliber.

    19. LHLewis Howes59:27

        Mm-hmm.

    20. JSJamie Sea59:28

        But also I think simultaneously, because I had been doing so much internal work, I remember saying to myself, "It's o- you're fine. It's okay. This is new." [laughs] It was just like parenting myself.

    21. LHLewis Howes59:39

        [laughs]

    22. JSJamie Sea59:39

        You're okay.

    23. LHLewis Howes59:40

        Yeah, yeah.

    24. JSJamie Sea59:40

        You're all right. This is new. It's okay. And you're always gonna find the right people.

    25. LHLewis Howes59:45

        Mm.

    26. JSJamie Sea59:45

        Like, there's so many people available to you. There's so many people that want to help that are experts that can help you when you don't know. And I think that's the one thing that I've always been very intentional about is like, if I don't know something, I'm gonna find someone to support me with that. My dad actually asked me and he's like, "What do you think actually allowed for you to be as successful as, as you are?" And I said, "Knowing that I don't know everything."

    27. LHLewis Howes1:00:07

        Mm.

    28. JSJamie Sea1:00:08

        And I don't have to. I don't need to know absolutely. I don't have to be an expert in absolutely everything in business. The there are so many experts out there that can support me when I need it, and that doesn't ever have to be a limitation.

14. 1:00:21 – 1:08:13

    Reprogramming Your Inner Critic

    1. JSJamie Sea1:00:21

       I think a lot of times, this is what I talk about with my clients all of the time, is that when we talk about the nervous system work, when we talk about subconscious work, the, the conversation that really isn't had is the inner narrative part, which is how are you actually speaking to yourself? How are you holding yourself in your own indecision? How are you treating yourself when you make mistakes? How much pressure are you putting on yourself? Because pressure and judgment, those two things will absolutely activate your nervous system.

    2. LHLewis Howes1:00:48

       Mm.

    3. JSJamie Sea1:00:48

       They're the two main pieces that will actually create nervous system dysregulation in the body. So the ways that you are unconsciously putting a pressure cooker of stress, uh, and, and cortisol on your body just by saying you should be further along, just by saying you should know better, you should figure it out by now, you should have the answers, all of that is judgment. All of that is pressure, and that actually creates more contraction in the body, lack of clarity, and then you're operating from a completely different part of your brain. But the more that you can actually say, "Hey, you're all right."

    4. LHLewis Howes1:01:22

       Mm.

    5. JSJamie Sea1:01:22

       "I'm so, I'm so proud of you-"

    6. LHLewis Howes1:01:26

       Yeah

    7. JSJamie Sea1:01:26

       ... for being brave, for doing those things, and you're right on time. There's no rush."

    8. LHLewis Howes1:01:31

       Yeah.

    9. JSJamie Sea1:01:32

       "It's all gonna work." And you think about it even the way that that is when I, when I teach this to my clients, I say, "Imagine the inner narrative as a separate person outside of you, and imagine you saying, 'I have these big dreams. I wanna make this money,' or, "I wanna... I have this big... I wanna do this huge initiative," or, "I, I wanna start this, this brand," or, "I wanna launch this product," or, "I wanna do something new." And this person's saying to you, "You're gonna fail. You're gonna mess up. You're gonna fall down. Who's even gonna buy from you? You should be further along. You should be smarter. You don't know enough." What is that gonna do to you when you receive it? And it could be a, a fluctuation of, of aspects depending on how your body responds to it. So if you had a fight response, you're like, "I'll prove it to you that I can."

    10. LHLewis Howes1:02:12

        Mm.

    11. JSJamie Sea1:02:13

        "I'll show you." And then it's like the hyper-control, and then it's like, "Ah, let me be number one. Let me compete," right? And then there's the, the fawn response, which is, "Okay, you're probably right."

    12. LHLewis Howes1:02:24

        Mm.

    13. JSJamie Sea1:02:24

        "I'll just kind of shape-shift my way. I'll keep my prices low. I'll keep myself small just to be acceptable and to, to be... to feel safe that other people are okay around me." There might be the flight response, where you just do a whole bunch of busy work, but you don't actually do the work that moves the needle.

    14. LHLewis Howes1:02:39

        Yeah.

    15. JSJamie Sea1:02:40

        Yeah, and then there might be the freeze response, where you're just like, "I know the thing that I want to do, but I literally cannot do it." And you also can imagine now if that person standing in front of you, and now you have this big open heart, and you're excited, and you're joyful, and you cannot wait to reach your goals, and maybe just even a little bit scared, right? Because every level of expansion meets up against that. And this person says to you, "You are so brave. I got you. Like, even if you mi- make a mistake, that's okay. You're allowed to."

    16. LHLewis Howes1:03:12

        Yeah.

    17. JSJamie Sea1:03:12

        "It's okay. I got your back. Like, anything that happens, I'm gonna be right by your side. I think you're amazing. I think you're incredible. I think you're worthy. I think you're important. I think that this is the coolest thing that you could ever be doing, and I think there's so much space for you."

    18. LHLewis Howes1:03:25

        Mm-hmm.

    19. JSJamie Sea1:03:26

        How would that allow for you to feel driven, brave, taking new risks, putting yourself out there if you always knew that you were the safest place to come back to?

    20. LHLewis Howes1:03:36

        Yeah.

    21. JSJamie Sea1:03:36

        Because that's why people are a lot, a lot of why people are afraid to make mistakes. They are not a safe environment to come back to. So they'll do anything to avoid-

    22. LHLewis Howes1:03:44

        Pain

    23. JSJamie Sea1:03:45

        ... whatever-

    24. LHLewis Howes1:03:46

        Yeah, yeah

    25. JSJamie Sea1:03:46

        ... you are about to experience within your own experience.

    26. LHLewis Howes1:03:48

        Wow. What do you think would be the biggest thing that holds you back from doubling your business and doubling your audience over the next-

    27. JSJamie Sea1:03:57

        Hmm

    28. LHLewis Howes1:03:57

        ... 12 months, two years, three years, whatever it might be, even if that is something you want?

    29. JSJamie Sea1:04:02

        I do. I do. I- and then I will always say that the work is not about me. It's not about me. It's about... It's always been beyond me, and it's been very similar to what you were saying. Like, the work is you are kind of shifting into, "I wanna, I wanna provide-"

    30. LHLewis Howes1:04:20

        Service
15. 1:08:13 – 1:11:00

    Three Truths & Greatness

    1. JSJamie Sea1:08:13

       Mm.

    2. LHLewis Howes1:08:13

       So imagine hypothetical scenario, you get to live as long as you want on this earth, but eventually it's the last day for you.

    3. JSJamie Sea1:08:19

       Mm.

    4. LHLewis Howes1:08:19

       And you get to create whatever you wanna create from this moment on until the last day. But for whatever reason in the hypothetical question, you have to take all of your work with you when you pass on from this earth. So we don't have this conversation anymore. Any content you put out, it's all gone.

    5. JSJamie Sea1:08:36

       Mm-hmm.

    6. LHLewis Howes1:08:36

       But you get to leave behind three lessons to the world, three truths. What would those three truths be for you?

    7. JSJamie Sea1:08:42

       The three truths that I would want to leave behind is be present, because that really is the biggest gift of everything.

    8. LHLewis Howes1:08:53

       Mm.

    9. JSJamie Sea1:08:53

       'Cause when you are here in the now, it gets to be really beautiful.

    10. LHLewis Howes1:08:58

        Mm-hmm.

    11. JSJamie Sea1:09:00

        Love more deeply yourself, and listen. Those are the three truths I would say, is that when you are deeply present, when you are in the moment, everything that you desire actually can be found, and you feel so deeply regulated, and you feel so calm. And when you listen and when you love, it's just, life just gets to feel so much more beautiful.

    12. LHLewis Howes1:09:27

        Mm.

    13. JSJamie Sea1:09:27

        And you also just don't even understand [laughs] the, uh, amount of impact that you have when you emit just that alone. When you walk past somebody and you hold the door for them, or you ask them how their day is.

    14. LHLewis Howes1:09:43

        Mm-hmm.

    15. JSJamie Sea1:09:44

        And that is the thing that someone else is going home and feeling better about. It's the conversations that you're having with people in the grocery store. It's the, the time that you spend not on your phone with people that you love. It's, uh, being able to hold space and to be able just to, to love and to care for people.

    16. LHLewis Howes1:10:04

        Yeah.

    17. JSJamie Sea1:10:04

        And I mean, really that's, I think at the end of the day, that's really why we're all here.

    18. LHLewis Howes1:10:07

        Yeah.

    19. JSJamie Sea1:10:08

        That's-

    20. LHLewis Howes1:10:08

        That's cool.

    21. JSJamie Sea1:10:08

        Yeah.

    22. LHLewis Howes1:10:09

        Uh, final question, Jamie. What's your definition of greatness?

    23. JSJamie Sea1:10:12

        Allowing yourself to be fully who you were always created to be.

    24. LHLewis Howes1:10:16

        Wow.

    25. JSJamie Sea1:10:17

        Yeah. Without the stories, without holding the baggage of what came before you is what do you wanna believe? What do you want your story to be? What do you want to create while you're here? And that is, I would say, the epitome of greatness.

    26. LHLewis Howes1:10:35

        Mm. Jamie, thanks for being here.

    27. JSJamie Sea1:10:37

        Mm.

    28. LHLewis Howes1:10:37

        Appreciate you.

    29. JSJamie Sea1:10:38

        Thank you.

    30. LHLewis Howes1:10:38

        It's powerful.

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