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50 min read · 9,914 words- 0:00 – 2:51
Early fame before social media: character over celebrity
- TMTamera Mowry
I didn't realize that my self value was in those likes.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- TMTamera Mowry
Be prepared. Not everybody around you is on your team.
- LHLewis Howes
Right.
- TMTamera Mowry
You always say you have a final question-
- LHLewis Howes
This is it
- TMTamera Mowry
... but it's not your final question.
- LHLewis Howes
This is it. I promise this is it. This-
- TMTamera Mowry
Okay
- LHLewis Howes
... it's one- I think you gotta have a dream.
- TMTamera Mowry
The School of Greatness.
- LHLewis Howes
Really? [laughs] Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
Please welcome Lewis Howes.
- LHLewis Howes
So you grew, you kinda grew up pre-social media, where you were famous, well-known on TV for many years.
- TMTamera Mowry
Yes.
- LHLewis Howes
And you were young.
- TMTamera Mowry
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
You were like teen, early 20s into that show.
- TMTamera Mowry
Yes.
- LHLewis Howes
What was that like being, I guess, famous, if you wanna call it that, pre-social media days, and how did you learn to stay confident, not l- you know, not get insecure or let things get to your head at such an early age while achieving that much and being famous on the, on the scene?
- TMTamera Mowry
I know. I would have to say my upbringing.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
My environment.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
My mom, my dad, my grandmother, my aunts, my uncles, they were all very proud of what I achieved-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm
- TMTamera Mowry
... at such a young age, but it didn't define me in their eyes.
- LHLewis Howes
What defined you?
- TMTamera Mowry
Yes. Character.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- 2:51 – 5:16
Life after a hit show: silence, typecasting, and starting over
- LHLewis Howes
Now, I've, uh, I've interviewed different actors who said that, you know, some of them, I won't say their names, but they had some big shows, right?
- TMTamera Mowry
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
They were on for three, four, five, seven seasons or whatever for big shows, and then for years they were not able to get anything-
- TMTamera Mowry
Yes
- LHLewis Howes
... because they were kinda typecast and-
- TMTamera Mowry
Yes
- LHLewis Howes
... you know. How did you, especially being even more kinda pigeonholed as a twin-
- TMTamera Mowry
Yes
- LHLewis Howes
... actor, which is very rare, it's a very niche role.
- TMTamera Mowry
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
It was successful. How were you able to reinvent or continue building your career beyond that original huge show? And did things keep happening right away?
- TMTamera Mowry
No.
- LHLewis Howes
Or did it take some years where you're like-
- TMTamera Mowry
Took some years
- LHLewis Howes
... "We're not getting any phone calls."
- TMTamera Mowry
E- exactly.
- LHLewis Howes
Really?
- TMTamera Mowry
So I was prepared for the transition of becoming, as Tim Reid would say, a civilian.
- LHLewis Howes
Really? [laughs]
- TMTamera Mowry
Uh, I was ready for that. What I wasn't prepared for was the silence of phone calls that happened after that.
- LHLewis Howes
What do you mean?
- TMTamera Mowry
Well-
- LHLewis Howes
Like you calling people and no one picking up or you're not getting calls?
- TMTamera Mowry
Not getting calls.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
Or going out for auditions and people just seeing this young comedic girl when you are actually [laughs] a, a woman.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
You're, I, I was 21 when I ended that show.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- TMTamera Mowry
But, I mean, I do have the gift of young face-
- 5:16 – 8:05
Turning criticism into fuel: classes, craft, and booking the next role
- TMTamera Mowry
And in that moment I could've, two things could've happened. I could've believed her or I could've used it as fuel.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
And that is what I did. So I took acting classes.
- LHLewis Howes
Really?
- TMTamera Mowry
Yes. Yep.
- LHLewis Howes
After five, seven years-
- TMTamera Mowry
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... of being acting consistently on this massive show, you went back and took classes?
- TMTamera Mowry
And guess what? I'm still taking acting classes.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow, that's great.
- TMTamera Mowry
I, I always want to learn.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
And I had to learn the art of auditioning, and I didn't real-
- LHLewis Howes
That's so true
- TMTamera Mowry
... 'cause I was working for six, seven years. I forgot how to audition. So I pretty much had to start all over. I didn't get a series. I was 21 When I ended Sister, Sister, I didn't get a series until I was 25, 26
- LHLewis Howes
Wow, that's-
- TMTamera Mowry
So it was four years
- LHLewis Howes
... 45 years is a long wait for someone who's been working consistently.
- TMTamera Mowry
Yeah, and there were moments of doubt.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
There were moments of, okay, I thought I was just gonna quit. I was ... I went to school, I went to college. I, that's something I always wanted to do.
- LHLewis Howes
You went to Pepperdine, right?
- TMTamera Mowry
Pepperdine University.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
I was feeling, I was literally, my country accent came out, feeling, I was [laughs] well, signing like a, filling out a questionnaire to become a private school kindergarten teacher, 'cause I literally thought I was never gonna work again.
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs] Shut up.
- TMTamera Mowry
I swear.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- TMTamera Mowry
Mm-hmm. The moment I filled that out, I got a call, and it was an audition for Strong Medicine.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- 8:05 – 11:14
When success stops: depression, identity, and redefining what ‘success’ means
- LHLewis Howes
So when did you start? When was the first season? How old were you?
- TMTamera Mowry
I was [laughs] 14, and it didn't air until we were 15, 16.
- LHLewis Howes
So 14 to 21 you were working-
- TMTamera Mowry
Yes, 14 to 21 working
- LHLewis Howes
... on the show. So how in those four years afterwards, so you were going to school afterwards-
- TMTamera Mowry
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... you weren't booking anything. People said, "Uh, stick to this other type of comedy."
- TMTamera Mowry
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
"You can't do this."
- TMTamera Mowry
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
How did you overcome the self-doubt? Or were you not doubting yourself and you were-
- TMTamera Mowry
Oh, major.
- LHLewis Howes
Really?
- TMTamera Mowry
I went into depression.
- LHLewis Howes
Really?
- TMTamera Mowry
Yes. Yes. And I was depressed because for so long I knew exactly where I was going-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- TMTamera Mowry
... what I was doing, and then there was an immediate halt, and I was like, "What now?"
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- TMTamera Mowry
Like, what am I gonna do? I had this conversation with myself where I was like, "I achieved so much so young. I have so much life to live. I guess this is it."
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- TMTamera Mowry
I guess I just achieved it.
- LHLewis Howes
You were at the mountaintop.
- TMTamera Mowry
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
Really. I've always felt like this sense of concern for Olympians-
- TMTamera Mowry
Mm. Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... in their teens.
- TMTamera Mowry
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
Especially gold medal winners when they're, like, 16, gymnasts or something, because you can never recreate the feeling of billions of people watching you winning a gold medal. Like, and then all the press and the success that comes with it. Probably a year or two later, it's like, "Okay, w- what, who am I now?"
- TMTamera Mowry
Exactly.
- 11:14 – 14:05
Getting help and finding peace through change: therapy and faith
- TMTamera Mowry
But it was still successful to me because, it was called Roommates on ABC Family. Um, it was the first comedy that I did after Sister, Sister, and it took years to land another one. But to answer your question before, I was depressed. Um, and you know, I think the hardest part for me was to acknowledge that this person who made a lot of money at a young age, who achieved a lot at a young age, can say they were depressed.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- TMTamera Mowry
And in a way, I felt weak, but you're actually ... And here I am a psych major.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
Um, but in that moment, I realized the strength was actually owning up that-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- TMTamera Mowry
... I needed help in this area.
- LHLewis Howes
Really?
- TMTamera Mowry
So I started seeing a psychologist, and I worked through that
- LHLewis Howes
And you were studying psy- you have a psychology degree from Pepperdine.
- TMTamera Mowry
Yes.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
Yeah. But I realized the root of it was I have an issue with change.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- TMTamera Mowry
That's very normal.
- LHLewis Howes
Right. It's hard to change.
- TMTamera Mowry
Because I would let those moments define my happiness.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
But it's inevitable, things are going to change.
- LHLewis Howes
Right.
- TMTamera Mowry
So if you base your happiness on change, change is always happening. Well, yes, change, you're gonna be like this, "I'm happy, I'm not. I'm happy, I'm not."
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs]
- TMTamera Mowry
That's what I was going-
- LHLewis Howes
So, yeah
- TMTamera Mowry
... I was on this, like, crazy emotional rollercoaster.
- LHLewis Howes
For someone like you, who's, your career is, uh, constantly evolving, you know?
- TMTamera Mowry
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
From acting to hosting to pro- you know, producing, all these other things you're doing and involved in, and maybe it'll last for five years, maybe it'll last for five months. We don't know. We book it, and then they cancel it right a-
- TMTamera Mowry
Yes
- LHLewis Howes
... it's like, I'm sure you've been through all this.
- 14:05 – 18:12
Rejection as the job: ‘I am good enough’ and rebuilding self-worth
- LHLewis Howes
Uh, what would you say is the biggest adversity you've faced in it professionally, then? Since s- since day one of Sister, Sister to now, of all those professional experiences, what's been the, the biggest lesson and the hardest thing to overcome?
- TMTamera Mowry
Rejection.
- LHLewis Howes
How many times have you been rejected?
- TMTamera Mowry
[laughs] I lost count.
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs] Hundreds? Thousands?
- TMTamera Mowry
What's that, what is that TikTok? More.
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs]
- TMTamera Mowry
More.
- LHLewis Howes
Right.
- TMTamera Mowry
Probably more. More. I literally lost count. Think of it, I've been in the business ever since I was 11.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow. And you're what, 25 now, right?
- TMTamera Mowry
Yeah, right. Thanks.
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs]
- TMTamera Mowry
43. [laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
Uh, but, uh, I mean, more than a hundred at, at, at least.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- TMTamera Mowry
And our business is based on, that's where we're gonna get deep, our business is based on rejection, being liked-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- TMTamera Mowry
... and people telling you how to do things.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
Think about it. When you audition, probably 1 out of 20 auditions, like dating, it's, it's, you're gonna find, you're gonna, you're gonna nail it. You're gonna get it. You're gonna, you're gonna get that part. Once you nail it, the director is telling you what you need to do better.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- TMTamera Mowry
Then-
- LHLewis Howes
So you got the gig, but now-
- TMTamera Mowry
Then we-
- LHLewis Howes
... "Change this, change this, change this."
- TMTamera Mowry
But more, after that-
- LHLewis Howes
What?
- TMTamera Mowry
Once you've done your project, you have critics
- 18:12 – 22:47
Twins in Hollywood: shared auditions, separate paths, and protecting the bond
- TMTamera Mowry
Yes, and what my sister said recently that became viral is that we auditioned for Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. We did.
- LHLewis Howes
You did?
- TMTamera Mowry
Yeah. Yep.
- LHLewis Howes
And?
- TMTamera Mowry
We did not obviously get it.
- LHLewis Howes
Right, but you did-
- TMTamera Mowry
But we got Sister, Sister
- LHLewis Howes
... that's huge.
- TMTamera Mowry
So boom. [laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs]
- TMTamera Mowry
You see what I'm saying? So-
- LHLewis Howes
And what would your roles have been for Fresh Prince?
- TMTamera Mowry
Tatyana Ali's, uh, character. Lord, I can't-
- LHLewis Howes
Okay
- TMTamera Mowry
... remember her, uh, forgot the character's name, but yeah. Uh, we would've been the, the girl in, uh, Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
- LHLewis Howes
Okay. Oh, you would've been splitting the role?
- TMTamera Mowry
Um, one of us would've gotten it.
- LHLewis Howes
Oh, one of you.
- TMTamera Mowry
So we both... Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
Oh.
- TMTamera Mowry
And we've, we've gone through that too. And here's another thing we can talk about. We, my sister and I are twins.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
We look alike. We talk alike. We used to dress alike. [laughs] And we used to go out for the same roles.
- LHLewis Howes
Really?
- TMTamera Mowry
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
Who would book the role more?
- TMTamera Mowry
It would depend.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- TMTamera Mowry
Tia was the Barbie girl. After Sister, Sister, I immediately, uh, well, it was four years. I, I got, not immediately, but I got the, the show Strong Medicine.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- 22:47 – 34:13
Being an empath in a harsh feedback world: talk show lessons and boundaries
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah. [laughs] So did you guys ever feel like you had a rivalry then, or were you always been supportive?
- TMTamera Mowry
I feel like there was never rivalry. There was disappointment when we did our reality show, and it's the reason why we left it.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- TMTamera Mowry
Because never before in our life did it become Team Tia, Team Tamera.
- LHLewis Howes
Oh, then it was like a competition almost.
- TMTamera Mowry
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
Oh, that's not good.
- TMTamera Mowry
And I feel like the producers knew exactly what they were doing in a reality show.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
So [laughs] it was like, I, I, I remember her just being so upset with how they, uh, portrayed her-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm
- TMTamera Mowry
... and how I was being portrayed. You know? Like, I'm the crier, I'm this, I'm that. Um, but yes, I do cry. I'm emotional, and it's because I've learnt. I'm an empath.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
And I finally have learned that as well. So the reason why I'm very emotional is because I feel, you know how you have your senses? I, m- my sense to feel other people's energy and their vibe is heightened.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- TMTamera Mowry
So if you're not feeling well or we're talking about a serious topic, I feel that to the umpteenth degree. Or if we're talking about something sad, I feel that, and it, and it could be, it could be draining.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
So that explains my emotional-
- LHLewis Howes
Sure
- TMTamera Mowry
... side. But now I know where it comes from.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
And I'm okay. I'm okay with it. It doesn't mean I'm weak or- I'm sure it's hell not weak. Um, it doesn't mean I'm so happy. No, it's actually a superpower.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
Because-
- LHLewis Howes
You're connect- you're, you're connected
- TMTamera Mowry
... connected.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
And I'm able to, you know, put myself in, in someone else's shoes.
- LHLewis Howes
Sure, yeah. What do you feel like has been the, uh, the biggest insecurity you've overcome then since you started in your career?
- TMTamera Mowry
I'm overcoming it.
- 34:13 – 37:26
Image pressure in entertainment: staying healthy without obsession
- LHLewis Howes
Did you see, um, I guess in the last, what is it? 32 years, 33 years you've been in this industry, right?
- TMTamera Mowry
[laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
Since you were 11. [laughs]
- TMTamera Mowry
I never did the math. [laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
You've been a- you've been around a lot of, uh, a lot of successful people, people who have, who've come and sustained and grown, and people who are big that have gone away, in a sense, in the, in the industry. You've been around a lot of famous, successful, thriving people. What do you see as a common insecurity that everyone's had in the last 33 years, whether they're teen star, adult star, come and go? Is it, "I'm not good enough," or is there another s- insecurity or fear you've seen overall in the industry?
- TMTamera Mowry
I would say, and I can't speak for everyone.
- LHLewis Howes
Sure. Your, your experience.
- TMTamera Mowry
[laughs] Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
Your observation.
- TMTamera Mowry
My observation, especially women, and even men, what am I talking about? 'Cause I dated actors in my day. And I would say image.
- LHLewis Howes
Really?
- TMTamera Mowry
Image.
- LHLewis Howes
You mean, like, how they're perceived, or they're-
- TMTamera Mowry
No
- LHLewis Howes
... afraid of how they look?
- TMTamera Mowry
How they look.
- LHLewis Howes
To themselves, or how other people are talking about them?
- TMTamera Mowry
How other perceive them. Like, you always-
- LHLewis Howes
About their body image?
- TMTamera Mowry
Yes. You always-
- LHLewis Howes
Wow
- TMTamera Mowry
... have to look a certain way. If you see, you see a person come out and be like, "I'm happy and proud of my curves. This is great." Then the moment they get a [laughs] hit film, where did all those curves go?
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
Where did all that go? Or women getting older-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- TMTamera Mowry
... in the industry. You know? So I would say it doesn't matter how big you are, so like the A-lister to the D-list, it's always that image.
- LHLewis Howes
Really?
- TMTamera Mowry
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
It's because we're constantly being seen.
- 37:26 – 42:52
Social media and self-worth: likes, algorithms, and authenticity
- LHLewis Howes
And what is, speaking of image and social media, you know, you were, uh, had big shows pre-social media.
- TMTamera Mowry
Yes.
- LHLewis Howes
Then you've grown into, you know, your own big following on social media. How have you learned to not let your image define you on social media, and use it for good in terms of connection-
- TMTamera Mowry
That's such-
- LHLewis Howes
... and creation and, you know, promotion, and not like-
- TMTamera Mowry
Good question
- LHLewis Howes
... you know, am I always in the perfect filter, the angles? Like, uh, how-
- TMTamera Mowry
So-
- LHLewis Howes
How have you... [laughs]
- TMTamera Mowry
Subconsciously.
- LHLewis Howes
Uh-huh.
- TMTamera Mowry
And I, as you can tell, I keep it real.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
With the change of the algorithm [laughs] that has happened recently, like what the hell-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah, yeah
- TMTamera Mowry
... has happened here, I didn't realize that my self-value was in those likes.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- TMTamera Mowry
'Cause at one point, and I'm human, that's what I-
- LHLewis Howes
Right
- TMTamera Mowry
... I'm, because for so long I was like, k- killing it, killing it, killing it, killing it. Woo-hoo. And then now all of a sudden I'm like, what the hell happened here? And I knew-
- LHLewis Howes
And did you go back to, "I'm not good enough," if the-
- TMTamera Mowry
I had a moment, yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... with the engagement. If you're like, "Okay, I'm getting a million likes on a photo, on a video, and now I'm only getting half a million." It's still a half a million people, but psychologically, what was happening?
- TMTamera Mowry
Um, yeah. So like I said, subconsciously I was getting my value there.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- TMTamera Mowry
And I had to have that moment again, being like, "Hey, look, I'm not doing this..." And you have to mean it. You can't just say it.
- LHLewis Howes
You do.
- TMTamera Mowry
You have to mean it.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
Mm, for real. [laughs]
- 42:52 – 47:22
What she’d tell her younger self: motives, opportunists, and ‘you are good enough’
- LHLewis Howes
If you could, uh, if you could go back to 10, right before you were gonna get into this journey-
- TMTamera Mowry
Okay
- LHLewis Howes
... you know, of, of a big massive show, and then, you know, the, the career you've had with all the ups and downs, if you could tell the 10-year-old version of you three things to look out for and to be aware of for the next 33 years of your career and life with dating and, and the business and family and fame and... What would you say to that 10-year-old version of you?
- TMTamera Mowry
I would say make sure you're doing this for all the right reasons.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
Because you have to understand in this business, no matter how many times they say they love you, they like you, it is business.
- LHLewis Howes
And they will-
- TMTamera Mowry
You're a product.
- LHLewis Howes
And they'll cut you out in a moment.
- TMTamera Mowry
And they will the gifts stop, the phone calls stop.
- LHLewis Howes
Really?
- TMTamera Mowry
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- TMTamera Mowry
Boom, just like that. Um, so make sure that you stay present and realize you are doing this because you love it, it is your craft, and, um, enjoy it.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
Don't let the rejection, the ratings, or the reviews get to you. Um, keep your eyes on the passion.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
And I just made that up right now. Keep your eyes on the passion. Realize why, realize the why.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
Why you're doing this.
- LHLewis Howes
Why are you doing this right now?
- TMTamera Mowry
I, I love to act in the sense of I love telling a story.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
And if you notice all the things that I do, I want the story to impact a person in a positive way. I realize what theater, the theatrics, whatever, I realize what it can do to the human soul.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
You can be having the worst day, you turn on a film, and it can make you laugh. It can make you feel, you know, cry. Um, it can make you learn, it can make you feel like you're not alone. If you're going through a divorce, you're going through whatever, and you see a film of a woman going through the same thing that you're going through, and you see that she persevered, and you see a little bit of yourself in her, it can change your life.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
That is why I do it. And in doing so, I wanna make sure that I'm doing the best that I can, and that's why I'm always learning.
- LHLewis Howes
Right.
- TMTamera Mowry
Second thing I would warn myself is to, oh, God, realize that... Hmm.
- 47:22 – 49:42
Marriage, motherhood, and trade-offs: honesty as the foundation
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah. I've got a few final questions for you.
- TMTamera Mowry
Okay.
- LHLewis Howes
I respect your time. Uh, I guess you've been married for 10 years, you were saying, 17 years together.
- TMTamera Mowry
Yeah. [laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
What is that like being, you know, in a long-term committed relationship while being in the business, where it seems like people don't last that long in this industry? How are you... How have you been... I guess, what's the biggest lesson you've learned about intimacy and long-term committed relationship, marriage, and being a mom-
- TMTamera Mowry
Oh
- LHLewis Howes
... while pursuing your dreams?
- TMTamera Mowry
I'm exhausted. [laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs] And how do you make it all work? And, and, uh, you know, how do you navigate the intimate relationship side of things while pursuing dreams and being a mom?
- TMTamera Mowry
I realize that when I say yes to something, I'm saying no to something.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
So saying yes to a job is saying no to being there every, that, those days for my children, and what am I gonna do with that? Um, and that's been challenging. I'm gonna say it is challenging. I'm not gonna say it's hard.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
I mean, I'm not gonna s- mm, it- Hard is like, "Ah, ah, oh, huh."
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
Challenging means there's always a challenge that we need to work-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm
- TMTamera Mowry
... at. Now more than ever, my husband and I, we're connected. Um, I love him more than I ever have.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm, that's beautiful.
- TMTamera Mowry
Because it's deeper.
- LHLewis Howes
That's beautiful.
- TMTamera Mowry
Yeah. And we had to be-
- LHLewis Howes
But you're honest with each other, which is the key it seems like.
- TMTamera Mowry
That was the key.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
And you have to, but this is the thing, it's like some people are like, "I don't know if I can be honest with the part-"
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- TMTamera Mowry
Then why are you guys together?
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
Like, you need, that is what makes a relationship, a long-
- 49:42 – 51:33
Current project spotlight: Table Wars and hosting with Martha Stewart
- LHLewis Howes
Um, before we get to the final couple questions, you got a show out right now called Table Wars.
- TMTamera Mowry
Yes, Table Wars.
- LHLewis Howes
Tell me what it is, and, um, how we can watch it.
- TMTamera Mowry
Okay. You can watch it on HGTV, starting November 14th. I host the show with the amazing Martha Stewart.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
And-
- LHLewis Howes
What's she like?
- TMTamera Mowry
She's a, a force.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
Let me just tell you.
- LHLewis Howes
That's great.
- TMTamera Mowry
She is elegance, like chic.
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs]
- TMTamera Mowry
Like in the dictionary, chic, Martha Stewart.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah, yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
Um, but to make a long story short, it is a show about tablescaping. Tablescaping is when you basically set up your table for an event.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
So whether it is a Thanksgiving meal, a Christmas dinner, a wedding, a bridal shower, a birthday party, you always have that table, you know, looking gorgeous-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- TMTamera Mowry
... and beautiful. And we have people from all over the country come in and compete, and they win $50,000. That's a lot of money.
- LHLewis Howes
So they, you have different challenges. They have tables. They have like a sem- an, you have an hour to go create this thing.
- TMTamera Mowry
It's amazing what they do in the time.
- LHLewis Howes
They're like throwing stuff together, and they're like...
- TMTamera Mowry
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
It's kinda like Cake Wars for table.
- TMTamera Mowry
100%.
- LHLewis Howes
There you go.
- TMTamera Mowry
Yes.
- LHLewis Howes
I like it.
- TMTamera Mowry
Mm-hmm.
- 51:33 – 55:02
Legacy questions: three truths, definition of greatness, and an unfinished money conversation
- LHLewis Howes
Um, this is a question I ask everyone at the end, called the three truths. So I'd like you to imagine a hypothetical scenario that many years away from now, it's your last day on Earth.
- TMTamera Mowry
Wow.
- LHLewis Howes
And you get to accomplish everything you've ever dreamed of. Everything you wanna have happen, it happens. You get to create, you get to make, all the good stuff, it all happens. But for whatever reason, you gotta take all of your content with you when you, when you go to the next place.
- TMTamera Mowry
Okay.
- LHLewis Howes
It's your last day. Every show, this interview, books, content, movies, it all goes away. So no one has access to your content anymore.
- TMTamera Mowry
Okay.
- LHLewis Howes
But you get to leave behind three things you know to be true, from all your lessons in life.
- TMTamera Mowry
Okay.
- LHLewis Howes
And this is all we would have to remember you by.
- TMTamera Mowry
Okay, okay.
- LHLewis Howes
What, what would be those three lessons or three truths you would share with the world?
- TMTamera Mowry
Strive to leave this world better than you found it.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
Live your authentic life. Don't strive to be like anyone else. And, um, oh, God, the third one. Living authentically yourself is, um... I, I read this, uh, book, The Alchemist.
- LHLewis Howes
Yes.
- TMTamera Mowry
Um, and what I learned is, is ultimately, you make your decisions.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- TMTamera Mowry
You make it. You can be inspired, encouraged by other people, but ultimately, that is your choice.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- TMTamera Mowry
Those are the three.
- LHLewis Howes
That's beautiful.
- TMTamera Mowry
Thank you.
- LHLewis Howes
Uh, one final question, Tamera.
- TMTamera Mowry
Yes.
- LHLewis Howes
Um, but before I ask it, I wanna acknowledge you for being an incredible gift in the world.
- TMTamera Mowry
Oh, my God, don't make me cry.
- LHLewis Howes
The way you've shown up-
- TMTamera Mowry
Oh, my God. [laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
... consistently as, uh, you know, someone in the industry to set an example, as a really courageous, authentic woman-
- TMTamera Mowry
Thank you
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