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0:00 – 0:04
Intro
1. LHLewis Howes
  [upbeat music]
0:04 – 1:09
Introduction and Why Intelligence Isn't Fixed
1. LHLewis Howes
  So I'm here with Jim Kwik. Thanks so much for coming on, my man. I appreciate it.
2. JKJim Kwik
  Thanks for coming to Superhero HQ.
3. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah, this is an epic place.
4. JKJim Kwik
  [laughs]
5. LHLewis Howes
  And, uh, you're gonna have lots of parties here, so I'm gonna be visiting a lot soon.
6. JKJim Kwik
  Very cool.
7. LHLewis Howes
  Uh, now Jim, for those that don't know, Jim is, uh, the master of memory, is kind of what I think of you. You're like this master of the brain-
8. JKJim Kwik
  Oh
9. LHLewis Howes
  ... memory. I remember watching you on stage, I can't remember specifically where. I think it was a summit series, potentially, and you just captivated me by your memory. You went on stage and you're like, "Okay, 50 audience members, um, you know, give me two different numbers each."
10. JKJim Kwik
  Yeah.
11. LHLewis Howes
  And we all raised our hands and we said like, "21, 15," or something. And there was like 100 numbers, and then you recited it all back.
12. JKJim Kwik
  Wow.
13. LHLewis Howes
  And I was like, "Whatever he has, I need to learn how to have it."
14. JKJim Kwik
  [laughs]
15. LHLewis Howes
  So very excited to dive into how to master the brain, and memory, and some different tools and tricks that we can do to become superheroes ourselves, right?
16. JKJim Kwik
  Cool. Well, I'm, I'm a fan, so-
17. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah
18. JKJim Kwik
  ... anything that has to do with greatness-
19. LHLewis Howes
  [laughs]
20. JKJim Kwik
  ... I'm all about, so.
21. LHLewis Howes
  Very cool. So let's start off with what really inspired you to hack, uh, the brain in the first place.
22. JKJim Kwik
  Yeah.
23. LHLewis Howes
  Was there something that happened to you that wanted to do this?
1:09 – 9:38
Learning Challenges and the Mentor's Bucket List
1. JKJim Kwik
  It was. Um, a lot of people, when they see me do these demos where I memorize a room full of people's names, or numbers, like you mentioned, or lots of words, I tell people, "I don't do this to impress you."
2. LHLewis Howes
  Mm-hmm.
3. JKJim Kwik
  "I do this more to really express to you what's really possible."
4. LHLewis Howes
  Mm-hmm.
5. JKJim Kwik
  Because anyone can do this. Because we've been, we've been told, we've been told a lie, that our memory, our intelligence, our genius is fixed, kinda like our shoe size. And through my experience of doing this for the past two decades, nothing could be furthest from the truth.
6. LHLewis Howes
  Hmm.
7. JKJim Kwik
  You know, people have unbelievable gifts inside them, they're just not shown how. I always thought it was interesting that school would teach us, like, what to learn, like, those subjects that are important, math, and history, and science, and Spanish, the what to learn, but n- never on how to learn.
8. LHLewis Howes
  Hmm.
9. JKJim Kwik
  You know, how to focus, how to concentrate, how to be creative, how to think for yourself, how to read faster, how to, how to remember things.
10. LHLewis Howes
  Right.
11. JKJim Kwik
  Like, maybe it should've been the fourth R. Remember reading, writing, arithmetic-
12. LHLewis Howes
  Uh-huh
13. JKJim Kwik
  ... but also recall, because there is no learning without remembering, and Socrates said that.
14. LHLewis Howes
  Wow.
15. JKJim Kwik
  But how I got started on this is I actually grew up with learning challenges, and a lot of people don't know that. But when I was, uh, in kindergarten, I had a really bad accident and I had a head injury, and it left me feeling like I was broken, that my brain didn't work. And I had these focus issues, I couldn't remember things, and it took me an extra two years to learn how to read.
16. LHLewis Howes
  Wow.
17. JKJim Kwik
  And I struggled, you know, privately, and then also publicly. And, uh, you know, when you're that age, you, you know, you get very self-conscious.
18. LHLewis Howes
  Sure.
19. JKJim Kwik
  You know, you become very introverted, very shy. You don't wanna connect with people 'cause you feel like there's something wrong with you. And so that was, that was my academic life. You know, I just worked so much harder. And I don't know if people watching this can relate, but just, you know, struggling with overwhelm or overload.
20. LHLewis Howes
  Hmm.
21. JKJim Kwik
  Too much to learn, too little time, and it stresses you out. And you're like, "Why can't I do this? Why is everyone else succeeding so much faster, and I have to do, you know, all this... Like, not even fair."
22. LHLewis Howes
  Right.
23. JKJim Kwik
  And that's, that's what happened.
24. LHLewis Howes
  Wow.
25. JKJim Kwik
  And, um-
26. LHLewis Howes
  So that, that's, kind of early on made you want to then master it, since you were having such a hard time.
27. JKJim Kwik
  It did. I mean, I think our struggles really can be some strengths, and you know this.
28. LHLewis Howes
  Mm, of course.
29. JKJim Kwik
  You know, like-
30. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah
9:38 – 12:54
Hospital Breakthrough and Learning How to Learn
1. JKJim Kwik
  And it's funny when you put things out in the universe, you know, ask a new question, you get a new answer. It made me say, "Well, what's my problem?" And I was like, "You know, my problem is, um, I'm a really slow learner."
2. LHLewis Howes
  Mm.
3. JKJim Kwik
  That's what I came up with. I was just like, "I'm, I'm a really slow learner."
4. LHLewis Howes
  Is that your problem, or is that your story?
5. JKJim Kwik
  That was my [laughs] ... That was definitely my story and my perceived problem there.
6. LHLewis Howes
  Okay.
7. JKJim Kwik
  And so, and I was owning it, too. 'Cause I was fighting. No one could tell me different-
8. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah
9. JKJim Kwik
  ... because I was fighting my lim- from like limitations, if you will.
10. LHLewis Howes
  Right, right.
11. JKJim Kwik
  And so I got to ke- keep them.
12. LHLewis Howes
  And it became true every day, huh?
13. JKJim Kwik
  Yeah.
14. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah.
15. JKJim Kwik
  And I was really, and you know, I had this whole story. I had this brain injury and everything. But I was like, "Well, if my problem is I have a s- I'm a slow learner, how do I think differently about it?" And it was like, well, you know, how do I learn how to be a faster learner? And then I thought about school.
16. LHLewis Howes
  Mm.
17. JKJim Kwik
  And I was like, no, school doesn't teach you those things.
18. LHLewis Howes
  Mm.
19. JKJim Kwik
  Much like, you know, school doesn't teach you a lot of things, like a lot of stuff-
20. LHLewis Howes
  The things that are most important, right? Like-
21. JKJim Kwik
  A lot of things that you have in, you know, in, in the, in your podcasts, right?
22. LHLewis Howes
  Right. Yeah.
23. JKJim Kwik
  The things that are just, you know, move the needle in people's lives-
24. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah
25. JKJim Kwik
  ... in terms of their joy and their health, their relationships-
26. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah
27. JKJim Kwik
  ... their success, their finances.
28. LHLewis Howes
  Finances.
29. JKJim Kwik
  Everything.
30. LHLewis Howes
  Most important things.
12:54 – 16:43
The Student Who Read 30 Books and Learning as a Superpower
1. LHLewis Howes
  Now, what is it, you know, I've always... This is my story.
2. JKJim Kwik
  Yeah.
3. LHLewis Howes
  I've always had a hard time comprehending and staying-
4. JKJim Kwik
  Yeah
5. LHLewis Howes
  ... focused in books.
6. JKJim Kwik
  Yeah.
7. LHLewis Howes
  Now, half of it is probably I'm just not interested in the topic or the book-
8. JKJim Kwik
  Yeah
9. LHLewis Howes
  ... or it's not well-written, but what are some things that people can do just, you know, right away, uh, to increase their comprehension and just speed it up a little bit-
10. JKJim Kwik
  Yeah
11. LHLewis Howes
  ... so that they s- are able to stay focused long enough throughout the book?
12. JKJim Kwik
  It's, it's amazing what people could do because here's, um, here's part of it. It's like motivation plays a big role, first of all.
13. LHLewis Howes
  Mm.
14. JKJim Kwik
  Like you've mentioned, like, things that you're interested in.
15. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah.
16. JKJim Kwik
  Like, this, this girl, I, I wanted to ask, uh, not how she did it, but I wanted to know why she read 30 books in 30 days, and I find out that she paused. I, and she eventually told me it's because her mother was dying of terminal cancer-
17. LHLewis Howes
  Mm. Mm
18. JKJim Kwik
  ... and was given 60 days to live, and the books she was reading were books to be able to save her mother's life.
19. LHLewis Howes
  Wow.
20. JKJim Kwik
  Yeah. It's just like-
21. LHLewis Howes
  Talk about motivation. I just got chills. Wow.
22. JKJim Kwik
  I, I, and I, and, like, I, I don't... It's hard for me to even talk about 'cause my memory is so clear of these events.
23. LHLewis Howes
  Oh.
24. JKJim Kwik
  And not just because I, I'm a mem- memory expert. It's just it takes me back because I, I, at that time, I'm 18. I just w- wish her luck. I'll say prayers and said, you know, but what do you do? And then six months later, I get a call from this young lady, and she's crying and crying, crying for minutes, and I find out that they're tears of joy.
25. LHLewis Howes
  Wow.
26. JKJim Kwik
  And I find out that her mother not only survived, but her mother's really starting to improve. Doctors don't know why or how. The doctors actually call it a miracle, but her mother tributes it 100% to the great advice she got from her daughter, who learned it from all these books. I mean-
27. LHLewis Howes
  Whoa.
28. JKJim Kwik
  And those kind of things, that's where I really, it went into my body that, you know, the right, that learning, that if knowledge is power, learning is a superpower.
29. LHLewis Howes
  That's what I was gonna ask you next-
30. JKJim Kwik
  Yeah
16:43 – 19:40
Three Keys to Memory: MOM and Motivation
1. JKJim Kwik
  Yeah. Okay, so there, there are three keys for improving your memory. Three keys, right? So if you're ever forgetting something, if you forget things, you feel absent-minded, like senior moments are coming a little bit early. You're, you're in the shower, you can't remember if you shampooed your hair. You know-
2. LHLewis Howes
  Right. [laughs]
3. JKJim Kwik
  ... so you end up doing it twice. You misplace your wallet, your phone-
4. LHLewis Howes
  Keys. Yeah
5. JKJim Kwik
  ... your, your keys or your car. [laughs]
6. LHLewis Howes
  [laughs]
7. JKJim Kwik
  You know, you see the people like, "Where'd I park my car?"
8. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah.
9. JKJim Kwik
  You know, these kind of... And they waste a lot of time, too, and they take away, you know, all the treasures. I don't mean just financial treasures. I mean just the important things, you know, in our life. But there's three keys, and remember Mom, M-O-M. Always remember Mom. So if you're ever forgetting something, usually one of those three things are missing. All right, so let's take names. 'Cause when people say, "I want a better memory," I, I hear them say, like, "Oh, I wanna be better at sports," you know, 'cause you're, you're just, you're such an athlete.
10. LHLewis Howes
  Sure.
11. JKJim Kwik
  But it's like somebody comes to you, like, like, "Well, what sport specifically do you wanna be better at?" Because you, there are different techniques and different training for different things.
12. LHLewis Howes
  Sure. Yeah.
13. JKJim Kwik
  So remembering names, different than learning languages.
14. LHLewis Howes
  Mm.
15. JKJim Kwik
  Different PIN numbers and passcodes and all the different things you need to remember.
16. LHLewis Howes
  So everything's different.
17. JKJim Kwik
  Everything's different.
18. LHLewis Howes
  Okay.
19. JKJim Kwik
  And so, but there's certain principles that are the same.
20. LHLewis Howes
  Okay.
21. JKJim Kwik
  So the M in Mom is this. Let's say someone has horrible with names, right? But let's say that there's a suitcase of $100,000 cash if you just remember the name of the next stranger you meet. How many people are gonna remember that person's name?
22. LHLewis Howes
  I'll remember.
23. JKJim Kwik
  Everyone, right?
24. LHLewis Howes
  [laughs]
25. JKJim Kwik
  Everyone. And so that's the thing. The M stands for motivation.
26. LHLewis Howes
  Mm.
27. JKJim Kwik
  So it's interesting. So all of a sudden everyone's a memory expert, but it had nothing to do with their capacity or their potential. Everyone could do it. It's just whether or not they decided to do it or not, if they wanted to.
28. LHLewis Howes
  It's alm- it's almost like if it's worth it enough or the consequences are ... uh, you know, that big-
29. JKJim Kwik
  Right
30. LHLewis Howes
  ... or the stakes are that big if you're gonna miss out on, on not, right? It's like the motivation.
19:40 – 23:43
Observation: Attention, Presence and Listening
1. JKJim Kwik
  And so you want to get that drive first, right? So motivation. The O is something interesting. You know, I, I, I have people do this. I have them just kind of shake out their hand like this, and I say, "Make a fist," and I say, "Put it to their chin." And then I go like this, and everyone puts it here, but I said chin.
2. LHLewis Howes
  Mm.
3. JKJim Kwik
  And this is the difference. The O stands for observation.
4. LHLewis Howes
  Oh, okay.
5. JKJim Kwik
  And I find that a lot of people blame their memory issues, and they think it's like a, a retention issue, but I find it's really a attention issue.
6. LHLewis Howes
  Okay.
7. JKJim Kwik
  It's an attention issue.
8. LHLewis Howes
  Of being present, you mean? Or-
9. JKJim Kwik
  It is.
10. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah.
11. JKJim Kwik
  That, that's a big part of it. It's like, you know, let's, let's say everyone uses a search engine like Google every single day, but a lot of people, they use it 10 times a day. If I ask them, "Are you willing to bet your life you know what colors the letters are?"
12. LHLewis Howes
  Pfft. I don't know.
13. JKJim Kwik
  Because that's, that's an observation.
14. LHLewis Howes
  Sure.
15. JKJim Kwik
  You know, there's a difference between looking at something and seeing it, really seeing it.
16. LHLewis Howes
  Wow.
17. JKJim Kwik
  There's a difference between hearing something and really listening. You know, like leaders-
18. LHLewis Howes
  Mm
19. JKJim Kwik
  ... like for example, um, I had this whole escapade with the X-Men, which was insane, but I had to leave the, the set because, uh, there I had to go to a charity event. And one of the people that I think, leaders, independent of your political bent, who has incredible memory, is President Clinton.
20. LHLewis Howes
  Mm.
21. JKJim Kwik
  Every single time I've met President Clinton, he's remembered my name, remembered me-
22. LHLewis Howes
  No way.
23. JKJim Kwik
  He does. And how many people does-
24. LHLewis Howes
  He says, "Hey, Jim Kwik to you."
25. JKJim Kwik
  Yes. How many people does Clinton meet on a regular basis, right?
26. LHLewis Howes
  A lot.
27. JKJim Kwik
  And so that's a leadership skill, though, right? And so FDR was incredible with names also. He would walk around The White House and point people out and say hi to them, say, say hi to their spouse, and using by name. I mean, that's, 'cause think about the sweetest sound to a person's ears, right?
28. LHLewis Howes
  Their name.
29. JKJim Kwik
  It's their name.
30. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah.
23:43 – 25:48
Caring Over Impressing: Interested vs. Interesting
1. LHLewis Howes
  So what's the mechanics then for, uh, you know, say I'm going to an event and there's-
2. JKJim Kwik
  Yeah
3. LHLewis Howes
  ... 10 people that someone's introducing me to-
4. JKJim Kwik
  Yeah
5. LHLewis Howes
  ... and I'm shaking their hand. We've all done this before.
6. JKJim Kwik
  Mm-hmm.
7. LHLewis Howes
  It's like, "Hi, hi, hi, hi." What's the mechanics-
8. JKJim Kwik
  Yeah
9. LHLewis Howes
  ... to remember, you know?
10. JKJim Kwik
  I mean, we've all had the experience. So relationship's all proximity and it's all who you know, right?
11. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah.
12. JKJim Kwik
  And who knows you back.
13. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah.
14. JKJim Kwik
  Right? And one of the most standout skills that I know of is walk into a room meeting 20 strangers and leaving saying goodbye to every single-
15. LHLewis Howes
  With their name
16. JKJim Kwik
  ... one of them with their name.
17. LHLewis Howes
  Can you do that?
18. JKJim Kwik
  Because who-
19. LHLewis Howes
  [laughs] Oh my gosh.
20. JKJim Kwik
  Because who, because who are they all gonna remember when you walk out of the room?
21. LHLewis Howes
  You.
22. JKJim Kwik
  That, that's a standout skill.
23. LHLewis Howes
  That's a skill.
24. JKJim Kwik
  And that, that's the thing that, because when you remember people's name, they feel like that you care. Because what's the opposite if you forget someone's name? How do they feel?
25. LHLewis Howes
  That you don't care.
26. JKJim Kwik
  That you don't care, that they're not important.
27. LHLewis Howes
  And you know, this is what I've been, uh, you know, thinking my whole life, 'cause I've never felt like I've had the book smarts.
28. JKJim Kwik
  Yeah.
29. LHLewis Howes
  But I felt like I've cared-
30. JKJim Kwik
  Yeah
25:48 – 30:53
BE SUAVE Part One: Believe, Exercise, Say, Use
1. JKJim Kwik
  Just any part of this will be better than nothing.
2. LHLewis Howes
  Okay.
3. JKJim Kwik
  All right? I want you to remember be suave. Be suave, like you are.
4. LHLewis Howes
  That's how I live my life, man. [laughs]
5. JKJim Kwik
  I know. This is you, man.
6. LHLewis Howes
  [laughs]
7. JKJim Kwik
  So when you're, people are going out and they're, they're, they're checking the mirror on their makeup and-
8. LHLewis Howes
  Mm-hmm
9. JKJim Kwik
  ... their, their, their clothing. I want them to say, "I'm gonna be suave." So the B stands for believe, 'cause you know this better than anyone.
10. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah.
11. JKJim Kwik
  Believe you can or believe you can't, either way-
12. LHLewis Howes
  You're right
13. JKJim Kwik
  ... you're right.
14. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah.
15. JKJim Kwik
  Right? And so here's the thing with beliefs. What I mean by that is you wanna kill the ANTs. You know, our, our friend, Dr. Daniel Amen, the big brain doctor, talks about killing ANTs, automatic negative thoughts. Because here's the thing, like, um, you know, with a name like Kwik, I had to be a runner growing up. You know, like I always tell people, my name's Jim Kwik-
16. LHLewis Howes
  [laughs]
17. JKJim Kwik
  ... Kwik Learning, help people learn quickly, and they're like, "Kwik really is my last name?"
18. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah.
19. JKJim Kwik
  Yeah, it's really my last name. 'Cause with, like, a name like Kwik, your life and destiny is pretty much planned out.
20. LHLewis Howes
  Mm.
21. JKJim Kwik
  I had to be a runner back in school. I have to, I have to be careful when I'm driving, because the worst name to be pulled over-
22. LHLewis Howes
  [laughs]
23. JKJim Kwik
  ... when you're speeding.
24. LHLewis Howes
  Oh, yeah, a little quick over here, a bit.
25. JKJim Kwik
  Yeah. It's like, you want to have that on your license, you're not gonna talk your way out of that ticket.
26. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah.
27. JKJim Kwik
  And I get to teach speed learning, you know-
28. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah
29. JKJim Kwik
  ... and speed-reading, speed memory and stuff.
30. LHLewis Howes
  Were you a distance runner or a sprinter?
30:53 – 37:41
BE SUAVE Part Two: Ask, Visualize, End
1. JKJim Kwik
  The A stands for ask, and this is a really big one. Ask. 'Cause what's everyone's favorite subject? It's like, it's not travel, it's not entrepreneurship.
2. LHLewis Howes
  Right.
3. JKJim Kwik
  It's not even, you know, it's not shopping. It's themselves, right?
4. LHLewis Howes
  Sure, sure.
5. JKJim Kwik
  And you ever meet somebody a- and their name is a little different than you're used to, like you've never heard that name before?
6. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah, yeah.
7. JKJim Kwik
  You know, probably 80% of the people you meet, you know, Lewis and Jim, they're pretty, pretty common names.
8. LHLewis Howes
  Mm-hmm.
9. JKJim Kwik
  But sometimes you meet someone named Afsal or Riddiger or Isis or, or what have you. You know, then you ask about a person's name, and what can you ask about a person's name?
10. LHLewis Howes
  Hmm.
11. JKJim Kwik
  You know, you could ask like, "How do you spell it?"
12. LHLewis Howes
  What does it mean?
13. JKJim Kwik
  What does it mean?
14. LHLewis Howes
  What does it stand for?
15. JKJim Kwik
  What does it stand for? Who you're named after. Are you related to this person?
16. LHLewis Howes
  Hmm.
17. JKJim Kwik
  You know, all these questions. And you know, ev- for the most part, everyone gets very complimented because a name, and again, is the sweetest sound to a person's ears, right? And think about why, though, like the psychology of it. You know, a child, what's one of the first words they learn how to write?
18. LHLewis Howes
  Their name.
19. JKJim Kwik
  Their name. How much-
20. LHLewis Howes
  Their mom or dad
21. JKJim Kwik
  ... exactly. And how much, how much love were they given when they did it right? You know, all that emotion tied into like-
22. LHLewis Howes
  Wow. Interesting
23. JKJim Kwik
  ... 'cause I think, you know, one of the challenges people have, like one of the biggest fears people have is not being good enough. You know, that we're not good enough, and if we're not good enough, we're not gonna be loved.
24. LHLewis Howes
  Hmm.
25. JKJim Kwik
  And if we're not gonna be loved, you know, we're not gonna be... We're gonna die or something, you know?
26. LHLewis Howes
  Right.
27. JKJim Kwik
  And so, but that name is like our identity, right? So you always wanna be able to refer to that. So you ask about a person's name and they're complimented. So like for example, I was, uh, speaking at the country's largest life insurance company, about 100 people in the room. Training director was there, and her name was Nankita. Nankita. And I was like, "Wow, that's a really beautiful name," sincerely, right?
28. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah.
29. JKJim Kwik
  And so I was like, "You know, you know, how is it s- uh, spelled? Where is it from?" I said, "What does it mean?" And she paused, and she looked at every, all her coworkers, and she says, "It means graceful falling waters." And I was like, "Whoa."
30. LHLewis Howes
  [laughs]
37:41 – 45:13
Ten Daily Habits for a Sharper Brain
1. LHLewis Howes
  That's cool. Uh, gonna have a couple questions left for this interview, and then we're gonna have some extra videos-
2. JKJim Kwik
  Yeah
3. LHLewis Howes
  ... with some more memory tips for people. I'll tell you guys where to go for those at the show notes, uh, after this interview. But I wanna ask you, what are some daily habits or rituals that you have to just sharpen your mind every single day-
4. JKJim Kwik
  Yeah
5. LHLewis Howes
  ... that others can apply?
6. JKJim Kwik
  Okay. So, um, so I think, here's the thing when it comes to your memory, two-thirds of it is, is, so people are concerned that they're growing older, but I could say you can improve your memory regardless of your age, your background-
7. LHLewis Howes
  Mm
8. JKJim Kwik
  ... your career, your diet, your level of education, your financial situation, your gender, your health situation, your-
9. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah
10. JKJim Kwik
  ... IQ, anything, it can be improved. Here's the thing, one-third of your, of your memory is, is predetermined by biology and genetics, but that's so exciting because that means two-thirds, the majority-
11. LHLewis Howes
  Wow
12. JKJim Kwik
  ... twice as much, is completely in your control.
13. LHLewis Howes
  That's cool.
14. JKJim Kwik
  And so the things that move the needle, for example, are, like, 10 things that I'm thinking about that's gonna move the needle completely of that, that, that two-thirds. So it's, it's a good diet, right? So a good diet, 'cause you are what you eat, right?
15. LHLewis Howes
  Sure.
16. JKJim Kwik
  And so there's certain brain foods that we know is, is good for your m-
17. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah
18. JKJim Kwik
  ... is good for your mind.
19. LHLewis Howes
  Dr. Amen talked about that as well.
20. JKJim Kwik
  A lot, a lot of that.
21. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah.
22. JKJim Kwik
  You know, everything from, from, from blueberries to walnuts and, and everything, right?
23. LHLewis Howes
  Right.
24. JKJim Kwik
  So there's good diet. Then number two, killing ANTs, killing the automatic negative thoughts.
25. LHLewis Howes
  Wow.
26. JKJim Kwik
  Which is a big for a lot of people. Remember, your mind is always eavesdropping on your self-talk.
27. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah.
28. JKJim Kwik
  And it's a practice, right? So you wanna be able to, to eliminate the negative talk. And you can't just eliminate something, you just, you have to replace it with something else.
29. LHLewis Howes
  Something positive, right?
30. JKJim Kwik
  Right? Exactly. You can't just stop smoking, you have to start doing something else. So, so my mem... 'Cause here's the thing that you want to avoid, a lot of people start taking pride in how bad certain things are in their life.
45:13 – 50:46
The X-Men Story: Finding His School
1. LHLewis Howes
  But I wanna ask you before those final two questions, tell me about the whole X-Men experience you had. Were you, were you coaching the, a whole X-Men group or-
2. JKJim Kwik
  Um, yeah. So, so we have that photograph that's, that's there-
3. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah
4. JKJim Kwik
  ... with me and the cast, and the backstory for that in terms of, like, like, a school of greatness-
5. LHLewis Howes
  Uh-huh
6. JKJim Kwik
  ... speaking of school of greatness-
7. LHLewis Howes
  Uh-huh
8. JKJim Kwik
  ... is this, is, um, um, one of, one of, last year, one of, I had the privilege to go in and train the chairman of, uh, 20th Century Fox-
9. LHLewis Howes
  Mm-hmm
10. JKJim Kwik
  ... and his senior staff, about 20 people. And, uh, and, uh, when going down the hallway, I was lit up because I would see all these movie posters.
11. LHLewis Howes
  [laughs]
12. JKJim Kwik
  You know, 'cause I, I became a kid again.
13. LHLewis Howes
  Sure.
14. JKJim Kwik
  You know, I, you know, Titanic and Star Wars and Aliens and Avatar. I'm just like-
15. LHLewis Howes
  Amazing
16. JKJim Kwik
  ... and I go in, and I, and I, I, I'm really great. Like, I'm, I, like [laughs] -
17. LHLewis Howes
  [laughs]
18. JKJim Kwik
  I, I like to be, like, humble, but, but I-
19. LHLewis Howes
  But you feel it [laughs]
20. JKJim Kwik
  ... but we, it was, it was amazing.
21. LHLewis Howes
  Sure.
22. JKJim Kwik
  Like, I mean, I got, like, everyone, they doubled their reading speed, and they-
23. LHLewis Howes
  Wow
24. JKJim Kwik
  ... their focus and all their mem- amazing, amazing stuff. As a thank you, the chairman took me around the studio. It's a closed lot, but showed me all the movie sets and television sets.
25. LHLewis Howes
  Wow.
26. JKJim Kwik
  And I was lit up like a kid, 'cause I'm still that kid. And I think I was really great in that moment because I was like a child.
27. LHLewis Howes
  Mm.
28. JKJim Kwik
  I was playful, and it was fun. I think that was a, that's the state you wanna learn in. Anyway, um, while we were walking the studio, I saw this movie poster of, uh, the upcoming Wolverine movie with Hugh Jackman, and I'm a huge-
29. LHLewis Howes
  Oh, he's so awesome
30. JKJim Kwik
  ... Hugh Jackman fan.
50:46 – 54:01
Staying Childlike: Stan Lee and Closing Questions
1. JKJim Kwik
  it just, so I just, it just, that's-
2. LHLewis Howes
  Wow
3. JKJim Kwik
  ... that's the story there. But, but the lesson there is, is, is twofold. I would say this. It came from being, um, s- for tapping, I think there's a, this childlike learner genius inside all of us.
4. LHLewis Howes
  Uh-huh.
5. JKJim Kwik
  And because I was that authentic and I kind of like let that out, it kinda led to, to that. So in what areas of our life can be, we be more playful and be more authentically us, especially when we're... You know, 'cause I don't think a- I think age really is not chronological age. It's more an age of-
6. LHLewis Howes
  Mm
7. JKJim Kwik
  ... in our mind, in our heart. You know, like, um, I'm friends with, uh, Stan Lee.
8. LHLewis Howes
  Mm.
9. JKJim Kwik
  And he's like, for me, the living Disney. Spider-Man.
10. LHLewis Howes
  Yeah.
11. JKJim Kwik
  X-Men, Iron Man, Avengers. And one chance, I had the opportunity to introduce him and another one of my heroes, Richard Branson, for dinner.
12. LHLewis Howes
  Wow.
13. JKJim Kwik
  And I pick him up here just down the street, and a, a 10-minute ride takes an hour, and I'm in the backseat with Stan Lee. And, and I'm asking him like, "Who's your favorite superhero?" And he's like, "You know, it's Iron Man." I'm like, "Oh, I love Iron Man." [laughs]
14. LHLewis Howes
  Sure. [laughs]
15. JKJim Kwik
  And he's like, "Who's your favorite?" I was like, I was like, "Spider-Man." And I say, "Spider-Man." He says, "With great power comes great responsibility."
16. LHLewis Howes
  Mm.
17. JKJim Kwik
  Like, you know, we know. And I was like, "You know, the opposite is also true, Stan. With great responsibility comes great power. You know, when we take responsibility, we have the power to really change things."
18. LHLewis Howes
  Mm.
19. JKJim Kwik
  But Stan has two passions. He's 92, turns, he's 92 years old, and he still goes to work here right down the street-
20. LHLewis Howes
  Amazing
21. JKJim Kwik
  ... nine to five, Monday through Friday. He loves telling stories. And he, the, his other passion is his wife, who's a year older.
22. LHLewis Howes
  Wow.
23. JKJim Kwik
  And that, that, what a role model. And he learns. He's one of the youngest oldest people I know-
24. LHLewis Howes
  Wow
25. JKJim Kwik
  ... at 92. And that's what I mean by a s- a state of mind.
26. LHLewis Howes
  So I wanna finalize this interview with two final questions. And the first one is, what are you most grateful for recently?
27. JKJim Kwik
  What am I most grateful for?
28. LHLewis Howes
  In your life. Just what are you most grateful for?
29. JKJim Kwik
  In my, in my life.
30. LHLewis Howes
  Mm-hmm.