Tony Robbins MASTERCLASS On How To CHANGE YOUR LIFE Today! | Lewis Howes

1. 0:00 – 7:09

   Fatherhood at 61 and What Parenting Teaches

   1. TRTony Robbins0:00

      I said, "Look where I am right now." Because I wouldn't assemble the story that my past equals my future. The past only equals your future if you live there. If you're using a rear view mirror to guide yourself, you're gonna crash. So what you've been through is horrific. What you've been through is unjust. I'm on your side, but if you hang on to it-

   2. LHLewis Howes0:19

      I think you gotta have a dream. The School of Greatness.

   3. TRTony Robbins0:21

      Really? [laughs]

   4. LHLewis Howes0:22

      [laughs] Yeah. Please welcome Lewis Howes. Every time I get the chance to interview you, this is interview number four now for the show with you. The last three interviews have done over six million views-

   5. TRTony Robbins0:33

      [laughs]

   6. LHLewis Howes0:33

      ... and have changed m- millions of people's lives. Um, we've done them on your plane, we've been in hotels, and now we're virtually here.

   7. TRTony Robbins0:40

      [laughs] Yeah.

   8. LHLewis Howes0:41

      And every, every time I get to interview you, I, I have a ritual. You may not remember, but I've told the story of how I first, uh, saw you in person, so I wanna tell it really quickly so I set the context here. It's about 22 years ago, my dad bought myself and my mom tickets to an event he used to host that was like a big three-day conference success. All these great speakers came. Actually, um, Trump was there, um, Larry King was there, all these great football coaches. It was in St. Louis, Missouri, and you came down on stage at one point. I'm sitting about halfway back in the arena on the floor level, and you came off stage and walked down. I remember it vividly. There was a song, Don't Worry, Be Happy, that was playing. I don't even know if you remember this part of your speech.

   9. TRTony Robbins1:26

      I do remember that, yes.

   10. LHLewis Howes1:28

       You came down... I mean, I'm sure you, you had this story at all your events, but you came down off this song and came down and you stop right next to me. I'm probably 50 yard line back in the arena, so halfway back. You stop right over me. You don't look at me. You look out, you say something to the crowd. I have no clue what you said, but I remember the energy you pos- you possessed in that moment and I was like, "I wanna have that confidence one day, and that energy." And that, that's, that moment has stuck with me for the last 22 years. So I wanna acknowledge you for constantly being an inspiration to not only myself, but millions of people around the world, from your way of, from your way of being, the way you open your heart, and the way you see other people. So I really, really appreciate your consistent, your consistency over the four-plus decades of work. And my f- my first question is what is it like being a father of a daughter?

   11. TRTony Robbins2:20

       [laughs] Yes. I, I'm 61, which I can't even believe I'm 61, but I thank God I feel better than I did when I was 30 physically, and I train harder, I'm stronger, and psychologically better. So yes, I just have a brand-new daughter. I have five grandkids that are older than my daughter [laughs] and I've got five kids in total. My oldest is 54 and my youngest now is four weeks t- tomorrow. So it's, uh, it's beautiful. She's the greatest gift and she's a rainbow baby. We tried so many different ways. So we're just so, so grateful to have her, and, um, we're keeping her life out of social media. I certainly mention her, but we don't show her pictures and don't talk about her name, just to give her a little bit of space from what the world-

   12. LHLewis Howes2:59

       For sure

   13. TRTony Robbins2:59

       ... is like, where everybody's trying to get likes for something. I don't want my daughter to have that habit, so we're gonna give her-

   14. LHLewis Howes3:04

       For sure

   15. TRTony Robbins3:04

       ... a little space there. But it's very kind of you to ask, and there's no greater gift. I'm, you know, anybody who's a father or a mother out there knows, uh, nothing, anything else you experience in life, nothing comes close.

   16. LHLewis Howes3:14

       What, and what's the biggest lesson she's taught you in these first few weeks?

   17. TRTony Robbins3:17

       Well, she's already restructured my life [laughs]

   18. LHLewis Howes3:20

       [laughs]

   19. TRTony Robbins3:21

       Like no one else has. I mean, I can sit there and hold her and obsess about her, and I, you know, like 40 minutes will go by and I'm just staring into her eyes, you know? It's that kind of thing. So she's put a little balance in me, that's for sure. And, and you know, also, you know, I've, I've, I, like you, I'm obsessed with being fit and strong and alive. It's required for what I do, and to do it at the quality I wanna do for 44 years plus, and I plan to do it for a lot longer, so... But you know, when I start thinking about her life, I'm 61. I remember telling my wife, I said, "I'm not having a kid after 50." I said, "I'm not [laughs] gonna be, you know, you know, 80 years old at the kid's high school graduation," and so forth. But now it's like for me to see her at 30-plus, I gotta be 90-plus, so, um, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm well on my way to making sure that happened, but it's given me even greater incentives.

   20. LHLewis Howes4:06

       I love that. Uh, for all the, the young people here who are, maybe they're, they're just having their first kid and they're in their late 20s, early 30s, around that range, what are the three habits or skills you wish you would've known then that you wish all of them start to learn at this age in their life?

   21. TRTony Robbins4:25

       It's a tough one, 'cause I think at every stage of your life you look at life differently, so it's hard to tell someone in their 20s how [laughs] they should be till they've experienced certain things. There are certain things that just be words. But if I was gonna give a couple habits, I'd say the first habit is to not judge yourself too hard, 'cause I think that's what young people do a lot, and I think people do of all ages. You know, when you're 61 years old and you've lived as much life as I have, a little less judgment [laughs] of myself in this area. Uh, you know, it's, don't make everything life and death, because then the kid feels that, and it isn't all life and death, you know? Uh, when my... I, I've gotta be honest, I thought when my daughter's crying, it's like I hate anybody in pain, you know? I thought it was gonna just pierce me and make life so difficult. But fortunately, number one, she doesn't cry. She's like... I told my wife, "I don't know how this kid came from us 'cause this kid [laughs] is so zen." She cries when she's gotta go to the bathroom, when she's got a diaper, she cries when she's hungry, but otherwise she's pretty zen. But the cry even then is different for me now. So it's not life and death. I'm not hyper-judgmental of it. And then the third thing is decide what's most important that you want for your child, the two or three most important things. For me, it's that child feels so incredibly loved, and for me, not yet, but as the child develops, it's developing a sense that life is something that's calling to you to give something, not to get something. I think if I could give any lesson to my child, it's the lesson of contribution which makes life so meaningful, the depth of relationship that comes from having such a deep love. I think those two things are the minimum. But you gotta decide what do you want for your child, 'cause, you know, they're their own being. You're gonna have your plans, how you think they should be, and then they're gonna be how they are, right? [laughs] And, but what you can shape is their value system, and not every individual value, but the, the, the global values. The, you know, that life is a balance, that of course you're gonna go to extremes, but balance is how the body maintains, it's how life gets in balance. It's like look for that. It's like life is not about me, it's about we. That life is calling to you to give something. Don't ask what your country's asking for you, as, you know, a Democratic president once said, "What are you gonna do for your country?" We kinda lost that theme, not only in our country, but in our parenting. And so, I see a lot of kids today that are like, they're, "What, what is my parent doing for me?" I could never imagine that thought in my life. My whole thing was like, n- not what am I... What can I do for my parents was my focus, you know? What can I do? And all those little patterns lead to a life that is more meaningful and fulfilling. But I don't think, o- overcontrolling is not gonna get you where you wanna go based on my history, 'cause this isn't my first rodeo.

   22. LHLewis Howes6:44

       [laughs]

   23. TRTony Robbins6:44

       I got four children before that, three of which I adopted. So, I was 24 and had a 17-year-old son instantly, an 11-year-old, a five-year-old, and one on the way. So, you learn to grow differently. And you know, my former spouse who had those kids, she'd been married twice before me, so they were from different parents. And so, I adopted them all and brought them in my life. Probably got some of the greatest growth in my life from that experience of parenting.

   24. LHLewis Howes7:06

       [sighs]

2. 7:09 – 15:08

   Why Loving Others Comes Before Loving Yourself

   1. LHLewis Howes7:09

      And, and for those that grew up and don't feel like they got the love they wanted, or the love they deserved, or the love they were supposed to have, or whatever, and people haven't learned how to love themselves, whether it be because they didn't get it from their parents so they didn't learn it, how can they learn to love themselves later in their life when they never really felt it?

   2. TRTony Robbins7:28

      I think this idea of loving yourself is a cultural obsession that has no basis in reality. Uh, here's the challenge. When you're born, what do you gotta do to be loved? Nothing.

   3. LHLewis Howes7:38

      [laughs]

   4. TRTony Robbins7:38

      'Cause your mother's on drugs. Uh, natural drugs, oxytocin. So you look like a lizard and she thinks you're beautiful.

   5. LHLewis Howes7:44

      [laughs]

   6. TRTony Robbins7:44

      You know, you're fat, you shit all over, you throw up, and you're still beautiful, right? For a while, you're unconditionally loved. And thank God, we wouldn't have survived otherwise. And I'm, I'm so, I love women so much, I have so much respect for women, even more so going through birth again. No man will ever fully appreciate what a woman does or what a baby demands of a mother if you're breastfeeding, and the energy, and the no sleep. I mean, it just, it's amazing what women do in our life. But the point is, in the beginning you gotta do nothing, and then the oxytocin wears off, and suddenly you do the same scream or yell, throw your food, and now you get yelled at, or hit, or the worst one of all, you get ignored. And then fear enters your body.

   7. LHLewis Howes8:21

      Yeah.

   8. TRTony Robbins8:21

      And then the rest of your life you're looking for, how can I get this unconditional love? And I remember in the beginning asking myself, 'cause yeah, I studied all animals and, with the level of dependency they have. And you know, human beings have the longest period of dependency for survival of any creature other than other primates. Whales will be dependent for a year, birds for a few weeks, and boom, get your ass out there and fly [laughs] , you know? It's a different world. We have this long dependency. It's just the nature of how we are. And then I thought to myself, "So why, why don't we just have unconditional love all the time?" And I think my answer is because then you never grow or give anything to life. You think everything is about you. And unfortunately, there are a large population of kids that are raised in a generation of parents that were helicopter parents that thought everything should be about the child, and they wonder why they're selfish today. Or why they, you know, don't seem to have great relationships [laughs] where you gotta be with somebody else or you gotta put somebody else ahead of you. That's what love is. Love is putting somebody else ahead of yourself. Loving yourself usually comes, for most human beings, by starting to have a value and just appreciating people, not because of what they do, not because of what they have, just 'cause you feel their essence. And it's easy to do that with somebody you love than it's with yourself, but when you start to with somebody else and you're not judging and you're truly loving them, then it's much more natural because you're already doing the loving. You're not getting it from somewhere else. Someone may say something, look at you a certain way as a trigger, but all love is self-love. This bullshit, "I don't love myself," if you've ever been someone who felt loved, you loved yourself. They didn't love you, they said something, they did something with their eyes, and you used that as a trigger to release love inside of you. But loving yourself every moment all the time is not the secret to success. Having appreciation for yourself is different than constantly loving. Now, in the Bible it says, "Love thy neighbor as thyself," so I think it's a worthy goal and it's useful, but most people are obsessed with it. And I think, get on about living a life that's meaningful and you'll love yourself.

   9. LHLewis Howes10:14

      Mm-hmm.

   10. TRTony Robbins10:14

       As long as you focus on you, you're not gonna love you. 'Cause the human brain is always looking for what's wrong, what to protect, what needs to be changed. It's the survival instinct, and so it's looking for things to fight or flight or try to freeze or pretend you're not there about yourself. But when you're in a bit of service, when you're trying to serve something more than yourself, that's when the higher part of your consciousness is there. That's when your heart is flowing. And when you're doing that, you're not thinking about you, and therefore you feel love. And I can tell you my own experience, I've, I don't have to, no one else would have to earn love with me, but my strategy has been I gotta earn my own love, right? I gotta be worthy of my own love. I don't do that to somebody else.

   11. LHLewis Howes10:51

       How do you do that?

   12. TRTony Robbins10:53

       Well, by helping millions of people for [laughs] you know, 44 years.

   13. LHLewis Howes10:57

       [laughs]

   14. TRTony Robbins10:57

       Now I'm finally at the stage where, oh yeah, I fucking love myself. I'm out there-

   15. LHLewis Howes11:01

       Right

   16. TRTony Robbins11:01

       ... I enjoy myself, I appreciate it. But along the way, I've always earned it. Now, I don't think that's necessarily healthy or not, but I like what it's done with me. If, I know people that just think they're God's gift to creation, and they don't add anybody to any other human being, and they're assholes to be around. They love themself. So I just, I would challenge that whole belief system. I'd say it's appreciating yourself, it's loving the people around you, and the more you can unconditionally love others, the more you'll unconditionally love yourself. But trying to start with yourself when you're not doing with others, forget it. It'll never happen.

   17. LHLewis Howes11:33

       Was there ever a moment where you didn't, uh, unconditionally love yourself? And, and if so, and if so, when did that shift where you stopped that and you started saying, "Okay, I appreciate myself because of my contribution and my service and who I am"? When, when was that shift?

   18. TRTony Robbins11:49

       I don't think it was ever I just didn't love myself. There are times, obviously, to be angry with yourself or frustrated with yourself or thinking, you know, "I'm not doing enough." I mean, I can remember my birthdays, to be honest with you, probably up till my 40th birthday, in- including my 40th birthday, uh, you know, you have a birthday with a zero on it once you're over, past 30, you know, 35, sometimes five years on it as well, people look at their life differently culturally. And I, and I used to think it was bullshit, but sure enough, I would do it. And I remember turning 40 ... I was really, really unhappy. I was like, "Jesus, I've not done enough. I've not helped enough people." I'd helped tens of millions of people at that point [laughs] already, ton, all over the earth in 100 plus countries at that point, but it was still kinda stuck in my head. So I would earn the love by over-delivering, change somebody's life. Like, I don't get it 'cause somebody says, "Oh, well, I love you, Tony." I mean, I appreciate that. Or, "Oh, you're the greatest." It's gotta be my standard. [laughs] My standard's higher than their standard for me, right? So when I get up and someone's gonna kill themself and it's, they're suicidal, and boom, turn around and they're no longer not gonna kill themself but they're transformed, their life is there, you know, that's when I go, "Okay, you know, now we- we've hit the center of what I'm made for. Now, you know, I deserve to feel this euphoric feeling within myself and appreciation." And even then, I still know it's God coming through me. I don't have the delusion it's just me. But I think sometime after 40, I finally saw the stupidity of it and I accumulated enough that I looked at life with fresh eyes. And I can say by the time I turned 60 a year ago, I noticed it was interesting, 'cause my birthday I didn't have an ounce of it. I was just like, you know, how could I at this stage in my life when I've had the privilege of serving so many humans in so many contexts? You know, from turning around, you know, guy's gonna kill himself with PTSD to helping kids turn around, to getting kids off cocaine, or adults, to, you know, helping people build multi-billion dollar businesses from nothing. And when I've lived this long, I can't go by without hearing half a dozen stories a day or dozen stories a day from people telling me how something I did changed their life. So it's not that I'm so smart now, it's just I've stacked it. By the way, though, stacking is the way you can do things. Most of us stack the negative. If you-

   19. LHLewis Howes13:53

       Mm

   20. TRTony Robbins13:53

       ... are really angry, it's not usually 'cause of just the moment. It's that it happened again, you know? It's like, if you've ever lost it or overreacted to your kid or to a friend or a business, or even within yourself, it's because it happened again. We hit this one, two, three, many point, and then our nervous system overreacts. But what I've learned is you can stack the good. And look, for example, if you're, if you go in a s- a state of really strong anger for more than five minutes, your immune system is suppressed between an hour and a half to two hours. That's a physiological fact. But no one had done any study. I started stacking good. Like, okay, let me stack a dozen great memories. Feel them, see them, experience them. And I felt this biochemical change that didn't just last a half hour, an hour, or 10 minutes. It went on for a day or two. And so I think, uh, I've learned to stack the good. So just having experience is not enough. You gotta stack the good to be able to appreciate it. But I, I think, just come back to the main point here from my perspective, which could be completely [censored] just my perspective, so I wanna point that out. I think the more you find unconditional love for others, the easier it is to find in yourself, and I think the focus is serving and loving, and that's what will get to the point where you start doing it. But if you wanna speed it up, stack all the good you've done, you'll feel great about yourself.

3. 15:08 – 25:37

   Toxic People, Blame, and Escaping Your Past

   1. LHLewis Howes15:08

      I, I already know all the comments that are coming through, thousands of comments telling me, "But what about my family that's toxic? What about my partner who's toxic? And how do I love someone unconditionally when they don't respect me, I can't trust them?" W- what about situations like that?

   2. TRTony Robbins15:23

      All those reactions are natural human reactions from ego.

   3. LHLewis Howes15:28

      Mm.

   4. TRTony Robbins15:28

      'Cause it's all about you, me, me, me, what I'm not getting, what I'm not doing, and that's why you're in pain. And so don... I, I'm not telling you like I haven't done this [censored] . I've done it too in the past.

   5. LHLewis Howes15:37

      [laughs]

   6. TRTony Robbins15:37

      But it's an old pattern I don't really do anymore, and I, it used to affect me. Now, not d- a dominant one, or I wouldn't have become who I've become. Early in my life, I developed this belief that life is calling, not to give me something. Life is calling for me to deliver things, for me to bring something to life, and I felt the, the joy that came from not getting, but giving, and I got hooked on that core pattern and then the pattern of learning so I'd have something to give, which I know one of the things I respect about you, Lewis, is that you have that same pattern in you. You're, you're always trying to learn more, because underneath it all, you also wanna give it. You want it, you want it for you-

   7. LHLewis Howes16:13

      That's good

   8. TRTony Robbins16:13

      ... but you wanna share it, right?

   9. LHLewis Howes16:14

      Yeah.

   10. TRTony Robbins16:14

       And so those patterns help me not be in what they're not giving, and, and all this language. Language, today people don't understand the power of their language, like toxic. What the hell are you talking about?

   11. LHLewis Howes16:27

       [laughs]

   12. TRTony Robbins16:27

       You, you've been wa- reading too much social media and thinking about yourself, or somebody raised you to constantly judge everybody else. We live in a culture now where people, you know, you're evil or you're like me. [laughs] That's basically-

   13. LHLewis Howes16:39

       Right. Yeah. It is

   14. TRTony Robbins16:40

       ... how it is, right? The whole world, everybody else is immoral unless they do what you do, think what you think, experience what you think. I mean, being a liberal, I was a liberal, right? Being a liberal growing up meant you, I would, I would fight for your ability to say and believe whatever you want different than me. Today, now everybody wants everybody to think the same thing, otherwise they're evil or otherwise they could hurt me. What ever happened to sticks and stones will break your bones, [laughs] and words will never hurt me? We have this whole thing that words are evil. Words are action. Word... It's [censored] , and all it does is make you incredibly weak as a human being, and you're more than that. We all are more than that. But you know what? Like a kid that's never broken their bones, deathly afraid of breaking a bone. But if you're a kid and you're rough and tumble, you broke multiple bones and they healed, you don't have any fear of it. There's so many kids that have been raised to be safe and secure every moment. Anything that's insecure or unsafe, they don't wanna be a part of, including language. And what it does is make you incredibly weak and fearful, and that's why there's so many people that are abundant that are angry all the time, 'cause they're angry 'cause they're not growing.

   15. LHLewis Howes17:42

       Mm.

   16. TRTony Robbins17:42

       So don't get me wrong. I know some people are not a good influence. I'm not denying that. I'm just saying you're more than somebody's influence, unless you obsess about it every moment and make them wrong so you can make yourself feel superior morally, psychologically, or spiritually, and it's [censored] . Stop the pattern. We've all done it. Catch yourself, 'cause if you want joy, happiness, and freedom, and an extraordinary life, it will not come from blame. Never.

   17. LHLewis Howes18:05

       Mm.

   18. TRTony Robbins18:06

       There's no pride that comes from blame. I don't mean fake pride where you make [censored] up to feel good. I'm talking about real pride. Pride is something you earn. Like, people tell me, "Oh, I have no self-esteem because my parents used to say this or they'd say that." I'd say, "That's such [censored] !" I'm not saying it's [censored] they didn't say that. I said, "It's bullshit that's why you don't have self-esteem." Self-esteem does not come from what people say about you.

   19. LHLewis Howes18:27

       Mm.

   20. TRTony Robbins18:27

       Self-esteem comes from what you experience about yourself. See, someone can tell you your whole life you're a piece of crap, and then part of you can go, "You're full of it. I'm gonna show you." Lots of people have done that. They never bought it. Or someone can tell you you're beautiful your whole life, you go, "I'm not really beautiful." So what people tell you doesn't matter at all. It's what you stack. It's what you assemble.

   21. LHLewis Howes18:48

       Mm.

   22. TRTony Robbins18:48

       It's what you create. It's the habit of what you put in your head. And today I don't blame you, because we got a whole culture that's always blaming somebody else for something in their life. But blame is not a strategy for pride. That's why you listen to these blaming people, they're all angry all the time. Listen, if I wanted to blame, I grew up in an environment, I didn't even share it till my mom passed, and even then I didn't share. I grew up in a pretty rough environment. My mom was a beautiful soul, but when she drank alcohol and she mixed it with prescription drugs, it was a different creature, and it was a violent creature. And I have a younger brother five years younger, and a younger sister seven years younger, and my mom would get nuts, and I didn't want them to get hurt. So I was 5'1" in high school, she'd grab me by the hair and smash me against the wall till I bled. Now, I never shared this, and I'm not, uh, denigrating her in any way. I only shared it, uh, like four or five years after she died-

   23. LHLewis Howes19:40

       Mm

   24. TRTony Robbins19:40

       ... um, because I was talking to a group of kids in New York City, um, all without fathers, um, 80% African American, about, uh, 20% Hispanic out of their group, roughly. No white kids. And I'm talking about your biography is not your destiny, and it doesn't matter what you've been through. What you decide now is what's gonna control your life. What you decide each day going forward is gonna decide your life. And I look at them seeing me, and I can read their minds. "This big, tall, white, rich guy is gonna tell me biography doesn't matter." So I said, "You know, let me tell you my story," and I told them the whole story, way more than I'm telling you, and every one of them was crying their eyes out when I was done. I said, "Look where I am right now. Because I wouldn't assemble the story that my past equals my future." The past only equals your future if you live there. If you're using a rear view mirror to guide yourself, you're gonna crash. So what you've been through is horrific. What you've been through is unjust. I'm on your side. But if you hang on to it, you have no future, and you have no one to blame but yourself. And these kids, to their credit, man, they just responded to the challenge, 'cause they first cried their eyes out hearing all the stories. My mom would think I was lying, and I wasn't lying. She poured liquid soap down my throat till I threw up, and I wasn't lying. So it's not the physical abuse, it's the fact that this is the person you love most that's trying to hurt you that messes with your head.

   25. LHLewis Howes20:56

       Mm.

   26. TRTony Robbins20:57

       So I could have been messed up for life, but I didn't, 'cause something inside me says, "I'm responsible for this life." And part of that is 'cause I started reading when I was 13, 14, biographies of people, the greatest people in history, and reading their lives and finding out, guess what? Their lives were far from perfect. [laughs] Some of them had worse lives than I had. But when you have no reference and all you do is go online and you talk to other people, making everybody else toxic, and I'm like this and they didn't do that, then you get to have the [censored] life just like those other people. Why are they online so much? 'Cause they don't have a life.

   27. LHLewis Howes21:27

       Mm-hmm.

   28. TRTony Robbins21:28

       Right? Don't be one of those. Free yourself from the chains of your past. I'm not saying your past doesn't matter, but listen. My mother, I tell people this all the time and it's the truth, if my mother had been the mother I wanted her to be, the mother she should have been, I would not be the man I'm proud to be today.

   29. LHLewis Howes21:51

       Mm.

   30. TRTony Robbins21:51

       Because I had to become a practical psychologist way before any schooling. Figure out when's she gonna go in a mood, how do I change her state, how do I protect her from the kids, what do I... I mean, it was life and death, and it was to some extent. [laughs] So I developed skills at such a young age, then when I learned things, I just added to my skills. But I had a core sense of certainty that I could turn anybody around, 'cause it started with my mother. And thank God for her. And she encouraged me in so many ways. She did so many great things. And she loved me, even though it didn't look like it at times.
4. 25:37 – 33:18

   Where to Start When Life Breaks Down

   1. LHLewis Howes25:37

      It seems like what I'm seeing and hearing from a lot of people, that this past year everything has fallen apart for them, their health, their relationships, their finances, their mission or purpose, and these, y- their spiritual awareness. Like, every area of life has been in breakdown mode for, for some people. Well, not everyone. Some people have had incredible lives and have stepped up to the occasion and broken through on all these things, but I'm seeing a pattern of a lot of people breaking down in many areas. Hypothetical scenario, let's say you, you could only focus on one thing to get you started. You only had the time and energy to focus on one of these areas. Your health, your relationships are all breaking down. Your finances are in... failing, failing everywhere. Where should people lean into first to kinda create that foundation so that everything else can start to rise as well?

   2. TRTony Robbins26:24

      I think before you answer what to do, you gotta answer why you're there.

   3. LHLewis Howes26:27

      Mm.

   4. TRTony Robbins26:29

      It is not because of the pandemic. I remember when 9/11 happened and people would tell, "Oh, my God. My life was destroyed because of 9/11," da, da, da. And there were people in the same building who turned their life around, became, grew spiritually, grew closer to their family, made their businesses larger, and the same building burned down, right? Um, I know in my case, you know, 9/11 comes. If you can imagine, you know, I'm fortunate enough to have now more than 80 companies in all these different industries, and obviously, you know, I've done pretty darn well b- by most people's [laughs] standards of business and life. But my core mission is what I do for a living. It's why I'm here talking to you right now. It's getting people to be free and alive and have the level of fulfillment that, that they deserve to have. I know they desire, but I also believe they deserve to have, but to deserve to have it, you gotta do certain things, right? And so you're not in a place of being overweight because you lost your job. So stop the bullshit blame. Blame is not a strategy for a meaningful life. Blame is not a strategy for greatness. So you gotta resolve that, number one. And then you-

   5. LHLewis Howes27:27

      Yeah

   6. TRTony Robbins27:27

      ... your question was what's the one thing to focus on if you only focus on one? I think it's smart to focus on one thing primarily. Focusing on too many can be overwhelming. Other people, it's fo- it's good to focus on multiple things. It depends on your personality. So I wouldn't presuppose. But then the answer would be whichever thing you're most desirous of changing, whatever thing is giving you the most pain. So if it's your relationship, I'd go full force on that. Now, in the world we're in today, you know, you don't usually have the, the privilege of going, "Okay, I wanna work on just being happy." Well, I can train you to be happy while hell's breaking loose. You can sit in this chair and be totally euphoric. But if you do that in a Western culture, people come and take your furniture, right? [laughs] So you probably have to work on both your business or financial side and some personal side. I would be working on both. And to me, the way to attack that, if you're not sure which area, is to start with the body. And I know you can relate to this, Lewis, 'cause you and I both share this in common. It's like I always teach physiology first, as you well know. If you change the body, you'll change the emotions. If you change the emotions, you'll change your decisions, and you'll change the quality of your life, 'cause the quality of your life is your emotions.

   7. LHLewis Howes28:32

      Mm-hmm.

   8. TRTony Robbins28:33

      It's not what you get. You can have a billion dollars and commit suicide. People have done it, right? You can have beautiful relationships and commit suicide. You can have people loving you and be sad all the time. Our pattern of emotion is our home, and you have to upgrade your home. You have to train it, and one way to train it is the emotion comes from the way you move, the way you breathe, the way you speak. So if I said to your listeners, uh, there's a depressed person behind the curtain over here, and I'll give $100,000 to their favorite charity if they had to describe their body, their posture, and they're depressed, you tell me. I'll just use you as the example. What does that person look like?

   9. LHLewis Howes29:11

      They're, they're slouched down. They're looking down at their feet. They're not looking upward. Their, their shoulders are over. They're-

   10. TRTony Robbins29:17

       Are they, are they breathing full or shallow, do you think?

   11. LHLewis Howes29:19

       They're shallow.

   12. TRTony Robbins29:20

       Are they talking fast or slow?

   13. LHLewis Howes29:23

       They're talking pro- if they're depressed, they're probably talking fast 'cause they're not calm.

   14. TRTony Robbins29:28

       Well, no, that's usually stressed. Depressed is different than stressed.

   15. LHLewis Howes29:31

       They're slow. They're probably talking low volume, slower than.

   16. TRTony Robbins29:36

       And all those physical characteristics change your biochemistry towards this feeling of being depressed, and in a depressed state you won't do anything. When I used to be depressed, and I don't get it anymore, I just took it out of my life. I even took the language of it out of my life, because the words you create, create a biochemical response. But when I did that decades ago, 'cause I was, like, having those thoughts like, "Is there a reason to still be here?" That kind of crazy [censored] in your head. I got out of it by using anger originally. I'd much... Like, sometimes if somebody's really sad or depressed, I'll make them angry, and people are like, "What's he doing? He's making them angry." 'Cause angry is much more resourceful than depressed. From anger I can get you to laughter. I can get you to taking action. I... So and then gradually I got where I didn't need anger. It was about growth. It was about contribution. It was about meaning. So there's, like, stages to go through. But to answer your question-

   17. LHLewis Howes30:19

       Mm-hmm

   18. TRTony Robbins30:19

       ... they should work on both their business side of their life and personal, one of each.

   19. LHLewis Howes30:23

       Mm-hmm.

   20. TRTony Robbins30:23

       And in order for either one of those to work, you need to be in a strong emotional state, and if you start with your body, like you know I start every morning in my cold water, start every morning with my workout. I start every morning by feeding my mind, right? So there's certain things you gotta do physically so you're strong enough to remember the truth. 'Cause remember, fear is physical You feel it in your throat or your gut. So it's courage. Courage doesn't mean you're not afraid. It just means you're strong enough, you push through in spite of the fear, right? And courage feels different in the body. So when you go lift or you go for a sprint or a strong run, or you jump in that freezing water, when you push your mind to go beyond what's comfortable, you feel a strength inside you, and that strength will help you to change your body, your emotions, your relationships, whatever. But then the other thing I'll say is model someone who's successful. Don't just do this [censored] by trial and error. Like find somebody who has what you want, ideally maybe more than one person, two or three, and see, go, "What are they doing different than you in their relationship? What do they believe different than you about relationship?" If it's their body, what are they doing different? They're not lucky. They're doing things differently. You might be slightly biochemically different, but there's patterns there that you can see. And so instead of learning by trial and error, which can take decades, you may never learn, Jim Rohn taught me success leaves clues, man. Find someone who's got what you want, study what they do, every aspect of it, and then add yourself to it, and that's the pathway to speed of transformation. So now, like, you know, I've done it. I'm not the only person. There's so many companies that went from worse off than they'd ever been in their history to the best off because they found a way to pivot. But that required a psychological piece of not blame. So maybe it's time for you to think for yourself and model what works instead of just what you're told. That's something to consider for yourself.

   21. LHLewis Howes32:04

       It's one of the reasons you've got millions of people that model after you, just like myself in many areas of my life. I've got three final questions. Is that okay to ask three final questions?

   22. TRTony Robbins32:12

       Sure. Of course.

   23. LHLewis Howes32:12

       Okay.

   24. TRTony Robbins32:13

       Yeah, I went long on this here.

   25. LHLewis Howes32:14

       Want to be res- want to be respectful of your time since we're at the top of the hour. Just want to make sure I'm good. Um, you mentioned, I had, uh, you know, I had the opportunity to go to Fiji with you and Dean Graziosi and a group of people about a year and a half ago, and you mentioned that winter was coming. This was in 2019, I guess, or yeah, right before 2020, and you mentioned winter is coming. I don't know how, how, where, what, what type of crisis is happening, uh, but something's gonna happen. It may be in six months, it may be in the next few years, but something is happening. And from people that went through 9/11 to the housing crisis of 2008, 2009, to then 2020, what would you say if people want to prepare themselves to create more financial abundance over the next 10 years? With winter coming maybe again sooner than later, what should people be focusing on in order to earn more and invest more so that they're not overwhelmed financially with the next winter?

5. 33:18 – 38:38

   Winter Is Coming: Generations and the Four Aims of Life

   1. TRTony Robbins33:18

      Well, first of all, I want to acknowledge that every generation, if ... There, there's a book everyone should read. It's called The Fourth Turning. It's not a great read, I'll be honest with you in advance. I read it 25 years ago. One of the most seminal books I've ever read because what it'll show you is that every generation goes through different stages. A wintertime, a really, really rough time. A springtime, like after the rough times, we usually see this easy growth. You know, a summer where, God, I'm working hard, doesn't seem the reward. And then a fall where all the rewards show up in a major level. But those seasons, which may be 10, 20 years, are a way of thinking. For some people, those seasons happen in their youth, some midlife, some later because there's a cycle of history. It's thousand years of history you can study. It's fascinating. I'm not gonna try to explain it to you right now, but if you want perspective, it's there. The generation you're speaking of, the millennial generation, a very special generation, I don't mean special like you're so special, but special because they have a unique place in human history. They've experienced certain shocks at a certain time. They are an archetype of one of the four seasons of life. The last one is called the Great Generation. Think about this. If you were born in the year, say, 1900, 1901, 1902, something like that, when you're coming of age, 20 years old, when you're wanting to think about your life and where it's going and all that stuff, right, let's say 1910, excuse me. When you're coming of age, if you're born in 1910, the stock market crashes. The biggest depression in human history, at least that we're aware of, modern history, happens. You know, 50% of the people seem to be losing their jobs. There, there seems to be no hope whatsoever. Right as you're coming to your early prime, gonna make things happen. Oh, so that's 1929. What happens a decade later when you're about to turn 30? Another seminal time in your life. World War II breaks out. Holy [censored] , the whole world looks like it's gonna be getting over.

   2. LHLewis Howes35:01

      [laughs]

   3. TRTony Robbins35:02

      We're talking about world war all over the earth, and it looks like Hitler's gonna win, and that we're gonna have Nazism everywhere, and countries are dropping like flies, and the economy's going through the floor, and you just turned 30.

   4. LHLewis Howes35:14

      [laughs] Right.

   5. TRTony Robbins35:17

      But guess what? At 40, the greatest bull market in the history of the world began for that generation.

   6. LHLewis Howes35:24

      Mm.

   7. TRTony Robbins35:24

      But they were so tested and so strong from everything they'd been through, but then they were tested by their own kids who didn't have to go through that suffering, who thought life should be easy for them and said, "Look at you. You're not balanced. You aren't fair to women." And they weren't, right? But they were busy fighting wars to get to the point where you'd have time to do that. It's like see people say, you know, art for the sake of art's sake is for the well-fed, right? [laughs] You know, it's like, you know, these people have a different jou- and so the... It's not like challenges disappear, but they're called the Great Generation because they found their way through those things, 'cause it was a generation that was not taught to look for excuses.

   8. LHLewis Howes36:00

      Mm.

   9. TRTony Robbins36:01

      I think the millennial generation is the next great generation, if they play their cards right, and I think there's enough great people in that generation to help lead a new direction for it. And I think there's, technology allows them to connect in new ways, but technology unfortunately also pits them against other people because if you've seen The Social Dilemma, you know there are people manipulating your brain and your biochemistry and your dopamine right now. So, but I think they'll figure that out. I think they really will. Now, the answer to your question, I wanna give that context, 'cause without the context, all this is about survival or doing okay for yourself.

   10. LHLewis Howes36:35

       Mm-hmm.

   11. TRTony Robbins36:35

       And I think you're not gonna feel a great life just trying to take care of yourself. Don't get me wrong. It's like if you know the Indian tradition, in India the, they teach the, these four aims of life. The first aim is artha, A-R-T-H-A, and what that means is prosperity and security, that it's important to take care of that because when that prosperity and security is there, it's not like that's not spiritual Taking care of yourself and your family is part of life, and so you need to do that. And then the next level of development, the next aim of life, is kama, K-A-M-A, and that means pleasure. And it's good to find pleasure in, like, if you found good work that serves more than yourself, you're gonna prosper. But then do you enjoy it? And do you enjoy your life, and do you appreciate things? And it's like finding that appreciation, it isn't just sensuality or sexuality, it's music, it's art, it's family, it's all these things. It's the history of your own country and finding the good, right? And then the third level for that, most people have heard of, is dharma, which is, you know, your purpose or your truth. But notice, you really don't have a real clear dharma in most people, unless they got some level of prosperity or security, some level of enjoyment of life, that they get to the point of thinking broader. Now, some people early on are trying to find their purpose. "What's my purpose? What's my purpose? I gotta find my ultimate purpose." Who said there's one freaking purpose?

   12. LHLewis Howes37:48

       Mm.

   13. TRTony Robbins37:48

       Where did you get that delusion, and why does it have to be so huge? I know, like, when I was a young kid, I had this purpose statement. "The purpose of my life is to be a passionate, loving, incredible creation of what God shows is possible by serving all His humanity and lifting them." And I, I mean, I went on and on and on.

   14. LHLewis Howes38:03

       [laughs]

   15. TRTony Robbins38:04

       But now, like, what's my purpose? How can I help?

   16. LHLewis Howes38:08

       Mm.

   17. TRTony Robbins38:08

       I mean, serving is what my purpose is. I don't need all this [censored] . And that, that means I can do it when I introdu- when I say hello to the mailman, I can do it in front of 50,000 people, I can do it with my child, right? And there's lots of different purposes as you go through your life. But most people are trying to get that, they haven't even figured out what the hell they're gonna do. They haven't even figured out enjoy their life. Your purpose will unfold if you do the right thing. So now to answer your question precisely and specifically, in short order, [laughs] you need to put

6. 38:38 – 44:04

   Owning Your Future: Ideal Client and the Irresistible Offer

   1. TRTony Robbins38:38

      yourself in a position, if you're gonna be successful, is to have ideally your own business or a business where the more value you add, the more you earn. You can work for someone else and do that. If you have stock options, you could do that, if you've got bonuses. But to me, autonomy, if you really want an extraordinary life, I believe, this is just personal preference, this is my opinion, this isn't the truth for everyone, is if you can find yourself in a place where the more value you add, the more you can grow mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and financially, then you can write your own ticket, right? And so owning your own business, to me, is one of the ways to do that, or partnering with somebody in a business, or working for somebody, but where they treat you as a partner, you get a piece of the business. So you don't have to be only on your own. But if you're gonna grow, you need to make whatever business you're part, even if you work for somebody else, you gotta think like an owner. 'Cause if you do, you'll become one. And if you think like an owner and you're gonna succeed, then you gotta model the people that are successful. It's like why we put this challenge together. It's not just me. We've got about a dozen of the best people in the world, all different ways. 'Cause they're like, "Oh, Tony can do this," but what about, here's Jenna Kutcher with her camera and what she's doing, making a couple million dollars a year being a mom, enjoying her life, right? So they get to meet them all, and not just be inspired, but this is specifically how to do it. 'Cause you know and I know, there's [censored] you get to have that I didn't have 20 years ago, or even 15 or 5 years ago, some of it, but certainly not 30 years ago. It cost a fortune to do the stuff, everything's for free now. You can put up a podcast and reach millions of people. That was impossible in the stage of my life. So there are ways to leapfrog because of technology, that you wanna take advantage of. So you wanna model somebody that's incredible, but then what's gonna make that business work or not is two things. Do you understand who your ideal client is? You can't be a client to everybody. You gotta know who's my id- you can help everybody, but who's your ideal client? Who's the client that's gonna stay with you when the economy gets bad? 'Cause as you said, winter always comes. I was saying winter came then because I knew we'd had a bull market so long that we're gonna have to have a bear market. We usually have one every five years. We had this unbelievable long period of time where, without having one, and I wanted people prepared. 'Cause when things go down is your greatest opportunity. Right now, your greatest fucking opportunity of your life is happening because we're coming out of winter, and we're not fully in springtime yet, although the economy's heating up, and it's artificially heating up. They're gonna pour so much money into it that you can be an idiot and do well in this economy.

   2. LHLewis Howes41:01

      Mm.

   3. TRTony Robbins41:01

      But you wanna take advantage of this time because when it goes back again, 'cause it will, we can't just keep printing dollars forever, or putting ones and zeros in computers, without inflation. We're already starting to see it, and most of you don't know what inflation is. I remember buying my first house at 18 years old, a triplex, at 18% interest. It's hard to make money at 18% interest.

   4. LHLewis Howes41:21

      Yeah.

   5. TRTony Robbins41:21

      Now you got, like, two and a half for people right now. Y- that's different universes. So you gotta be prepared for whatever's coming, and the way you do that is know who your ideal customer is who you can add value to, fall in love with them, what do they need, what do they want, what do they hate? And not fall in love with your product. Fall in love with them so you can keep meeting their needs, and then come up with an irresistible offer. If you have those two things, you're gonna win. I mean, I remember, I, I saw, there's a great little series out right now on, um, [smacks lips] I think it's the History Channel. They've done these series in the past, you may have seen them, Lewis, like the, the, you know, the, the people that shaped America, and they show, like, all the, the, you know, the g- the guys that built Standard Oil, like the Rockefellers and so forth.

   6. LHLewis Howes42:00

      Mm-hmm.

   7. TRTony Robbins42:00

      They're doing one right now on the food that built America, and it's fascinating. And so one of those stories was about the pizza business, and I won't run it for you, but one of those was such a perfect example, it was Domino's Pizza. He was going bankrupt. He couldn't figure out what the hell to do. He couldn't make any money no matter what. And then one day, he had a problem delivering something, and somebody was pissed off, and they go, "I will not accept this pizza if it takes more than 30 minutes." And he was... And he heard it. And then he tried on every call, "Domino's Pizza, we deliver within 30 minutes or your pizza is free." He made an irresistible offer. Not just that we'll deliver by 30 minutes, but I will be penalized, you will get it for free if you don't. That offer turned Domino's from a losing company to the one of the most dominant pizza companies in the history of the world.

   8. LHLewis Howes42:45

      Wow.

   9. TRTony Robbins42:45

      Having an irresistible offer and knowing who his client was. He went for kids in college. He targeted them, 'cause they ate more pizza, and you could deliver more to the same dorm with more people. So he knew his ideal clients. He knew who else he wanted to serve. He came up with the irresistible offer. Done deal. Unbelievable business

   10. LHLewis Howes43:03

       And this is one of the things you guys are teaching in the Own Your Future Challenge, which if, I want everyone listening or watching to sign up for this. It's completely free. You can go to lewishowes.com/future. It'll take you right there. You guys are doing this week-long challenge, you and our friend Dean Graziosi, talking about how to build and scale an irresistible offer, talking about how to build a business, a side hustle, whatever it is, using your knowledge and information to build something, to earn something on the side that eventually you could take it-

   11. TRTony Robbins43:33

       What's unique about this challenge, and it's not just me, as you said, it's a bunch of people, is we're gonna use technology each step of the way, each day, so you start to build a business that you could start to launch at the end-

   12. LHLewis Howes43:44

       Yeah

   13. TRTony Robbins43:44

       ... because this technology can do in minutes what used to take months or years, and/or if you already have a business, how to grow it dynamically. So it's not just gonna be sitting back with philosophy. We're gonna be calling you. There's no charge for the program. The charge is you gotta take uncomfortable action each day using a little bit of technology we'll show you how to do, and then you're gonna have something real at the end, not just inspiration.

7. 44:04 – 48:38

   Three Truths and the Definition of Greatness

   1. LHLewis Howes44:04

      I love it. Yeah, I want everyone to, to, to sign up for this. It's completely free, lewishowes.com/future. Um, there's gonna be a lot of great content. A lot of my mutual friends are gonna be on there teaching, sharing some of their, their greatest strategies about how they built and scaled their businesses and brands, so make sure you sign up for that. Final two questions. Uh, this is a question I've asked you before. You probably don't, probably don't remember. I think the last time I interviewed you was four or five years ago, but it's called the three truths, and I like to make it a... spin this question. Um, it's a hypothetical scenario. Imagine it's your last day on earth many years away, and you get to accomplish and live as long as you wanna live, but eventually you gotta turn the lights off. And for whatever reason, Tony, you've gotta take all of your work with you, your written words, your audio, the video. No one has access to your content anymore. They steal the books out of people's homes, and it goes with you to the next place, hypothetically. But you get to leave behind three things you know to be true, the three lessons you would share with the world, and this is all we would have, uh, from your information. What would you say are those three lessons that you would share with your daughter or to the world if this is all we would have to remember you by?

   2. TRTony Robbins45:13

      Life is not about me. Life is about we. The quality of life is the quality of relationships, and relationships are grown by giving, not by demanding, not by judging. Um, I'd say secondly, uh, love is the answer with strength. Uh, you have to have s- love and strength together. Those two resources, anything can be transformed, anything can be accomplished, 'cause with love and strength, you'll have a larger vision. Um, if it's true love. I don't want to talk about love w- in a sense of just trying to get something. I mean true love, which is about how can I give something, but still having strength also, so you're not run over. And I'd say, um, I'd say constant never-ending learning will make life not only interesting, but the meaningfulness will come because you'll have something to give, and that'll tie back to the first piece that I described. So, I mean, there's so much it's hard [laughs] to reduce to three things, but off the top of my head, those would be my first three.

   3. LHLewis Howes46:06

      I love those. And Dean, uh, Graziosi said one of the greatest lessons you've taught him is about love and relationships, and he said that you told him you feel love when you give it rather than when you receive it, and also in a relationship, never keep score. And so I just wanted to mention that as something that, uh, has been impactful for him and so many of your, your friends that you've taught this to, especially myself, in, in relationships and understanding relationships. Uh, before I ask the final question, I wanna acknowledge you, Tony, as I, uh, uh, as I've done many times before, and I will continue to do for as long as you're alive, for constantly being a, a symbol of inspiration to so many people, for constantly showing up. You don't have to do this stuff anymore. You've done a million times over the work of helping so many people, and the, the ability, the amount of growth that you continue to have in wanting to serve at a higher level continues to inspire me like you'll never know. And so I wanna acknowledge you for leading the way, for, for constantly serving so many people that will never know that you touched their lives directly, 'cause you're doing it not for them to know you're doing it. Um, on every area of life, I really appreciate who you are as a human. And my final question is what is your definition of greatness?

   4. TRTony Robbins47:21

      I think greatness is service. I think, uh, great service is, is a great life. I think, um, you know, as you live your life, and I'm fortunate enough to uncover this earlier in my life, not because I'm such a good person, I think just 'cause I love people, and because I then attracted really brilliant people 20, 30 years my senior who had been through all the patterns. In the end, it's not what you get [laughs] that's gonna make you happy. It's who you become, and it's, uh, who you've been able to touch. And, um, you know, so I think greatness is service. I think greatness is finding the way to do more for others than anybody else, uh, because that'll also come back to you in spades from the standpoint of your own sense of internal pride, not external, but your own sense... Like, people could take away everything I have. They can't take away who I've become as a man by my service and, uh, by my growth. So I think, um, I think purpose and, and having a sense of progress are the two things that create a great life. If you got a higher purpose than yourself, that's gonna give you the motivation and the energy to drive when everybody else is exhausted and you're exhausted. And if you're making progress, you'll feel the rewards that come from that. I think those two are twin powers in a great life.

   5. LHLewis Howes48:31

      Tony Robbins, thanks for all your service and generosity, my friend. I'm so grateful, and thanks for being here.

   6. TRTony Robbins48:37

      Thank you, Lewis. Great to see you again.

8. 48:38 – 1:00:47

   Howes's Takeaways: Body, Positivity, Service and Irresistibility

   1. LHLewis Howes48:38

      So just finished up this amazing interview with Tony Robbins, and I was reflecting on some of the things he talked about. I've had the chance to be around him a few different times. We've had Three previous interviews that were all incredible. I think got over six million views on those. I've spent some intimate time in some mastermind meetings with him. I've been to his live events. I've, I've had the opportunity to be a- be around him a few times. I have a lot of mutual friends who are very close to Tony. And I just wanted to share some of my big takeaways from this interview, and also what I've learned from him since I've really been aware of him, uh, as a kid growing up. And one of the things that he mentioned here was a lot of people struggle, especially after a, a breakdown in life, whether it be this pandemic or some type of breakdown, and lots of things have broken down, your finances, your relationships, your health, your purpose, your mission, you're not clear on what you wanna do next. He really said, you know, focus on these different areas, but make sure your body is strong. When your body's strong, then you have the energy, the presence, the power to make better decisions, to have the focus to work on those relationships, to give the attention and the creativity to launch your business. All these things stem from the foundation of your body, and I can speak from personal experience that when my, uh, body is really out of shape and I'm not moving and I'm not working out and I'm eating horrible for weeks or months on end, and, and it's really, I've just kinda lost my, my physical body in that sense. I feel less. I feel like I don't believe in myself as much. I feel less confident. I don't feel as good in my relationships. I don't feel as confident in business. And it really stems from having the energy, the clarity, the focus. And make sure you put the attention on taking care of your body. Make sure the nutrition, the sleep, the physical activity, you are making this a priority. You're putting this in your calendar, scheduling it first on a daily basis. What are you gonna do to set yourself up to win? He talked about making sure you set yourself up to win by finding the right model of people on how they do it. There are a lot of busy people out there who've got kids and families and businesses and responsibilities who are also able to take care of their physical body and their health, so modeling those individuals. I think it's really important to find a personal advisory board. Tony talked about this towards the end, where he's always finding his, his mentors who are 20 years senior, right? He's finding people who've been there, done that, so he can accelerate that time and that learning curve. Something I've learned from him that I think is extremely important is find the model of success. He mentioned finding three people, so why not find your own personal advisory board of individuals who have the health or the physical body and the, [lips smack] the physical activity and the nutritional side of their life figured out? Find people who have the financial side figured out. I'm doing this on a consistent basis. I've got more than three people in every area. I've got coaches and therapists and, uh, you know, billionaire friends and physical specimens that I'm always trying to learn from. And then he said focusing on one thing at first. Like, focus on this. Get it under control so you have the energy to do more things. Uh, I think when you schedule that priority, the thing that's the biggest pain right now, and scheduling it on a daily basis, this becomes a non-negotiable for you. That's when you can really start to see results and changes, when you're taking that consistent action. So that was one thing I took away. Number, uh, two is stacking positives. You know, you think about it, we've got, you know, neuroscientists and psychologists who've come on the School of Greatness say that there's, what, 50,000 or 80,000 thoughts a day that a human being has on average, and who knows what the actual statistic is. But most people will agree in the, the science world that our thoughts are on repeat. So we're, if we're having negative thoughts consistently and we're having them on repeat consistently, then we're stacking negative thoughts. And this has been used to protect us and to make sure we're looking out for what's harmful and things that are bad and all the things we can fix. But he said stacking the positives. And he said he removes the language of depression from him. He's like, "I'm not gonna get depressed. I'm, I... First it was depression, then I said, 'No, I'm just gonna get angry,' because anger will give me energy. It'll give me something to at least work towards and take action on. Maybe it's not the best action, but it's better than the depressed action, which is nothing." Uh, so stacking the positives and rewarding yourself. "Oh, I had lots of great thoughts today. I had lots of good memories today. I didn't focus on the negative thoughts and the negative memories. I'm stacking the positive." You may piss people off by just being a positive human being, and I'm not saying suppress your feelings and hurt and pain. You can still feel and work through those, but then get back to a positive state. You know, the world makes room for passionate, positive people. You, you don't wanna be around negative people with a bad attitude that don't take action. That doesn't inspire you in an intimate relationship, uh, uh, a partnership in your business, hiring someone for your team. That doesn't inspire you. The world makes room for positive, passionate people. And so figuring out, how can I make it a game in my mind where I'm training myself to stack positivity, stack positive, good thoughts, quality thoughts, not negative, suffering thoughts. That was another thing that I really loved, stacking positivities. And again, you may piss people off because they're not in the mood and they're negative and you're positive, but I'd rather you piss people off for being positive than piss people off for being negative. [lips smack] The next thing that I said, uh, that he's talked about, which I thought was really fascinating, is loving others is when you'll truly love yourself. And really, the key to success is to, to be in service and, and to learn how to love and contribute to other people. And I, I love this perspective 'cause I think a lot of people are in this mode of wanting, "And I need someone else to love me, and I need my family to love me and see me for who I am, and I need my partner to love me the way I wanna be loved." And I'm all for the, the five lo- love languages and actually just learning how to communicate and give and receive love. But I like his perspec- perspective in saying, "You know what? It's not, it shouldn't always be about me, me, me and what I need, but how can I serve? How can I love others unconditionally?" Which is really hard when someone isn't receptive or when someone's defensive or when someone doesn't receive your love. Um, but that's when you can really elevate yourself to another level, is when you can learn to love someone else. And not need it in return, but in return, you love yourself because of how you're giving love to other people. Just that perspective shift I thought was interesting. I'm also a big fan of just learning to accept yourself. Accept yourself through your past, your pain, your hurt, your shame, the things you've done to hurt other people, all that stuff. Like, accept yourself, and then make a commitment moving forward on how you're going to show up differently to create a new positive attitude for yourself, a new energy, a new contract with yourself in the world. So love yourself by loving other people. I love that. And he said loving yourself is not the secret, but really loving other people. He also mentioned we, not me, as one of his, um, truths, and I'm a big fan that we're all in this together, that y- you're, you're in this together with the world, but also it's we, not me, in a intimate partnership. It's we, not me, in a business. It's we, not me, in a, in a team, a sports setting. It's we, not me, in everything. In friendships, it needs to be ab- be about we, not me. And for most of my life, I'll admit it, I was about, "What can I do for me? How can I gain a leg up? How can I look better than others? How can I be the winner and someone else be the loser?" In every context of life. And that didn't work. It, it made me have a s- a surface level of fake confidence. It made me feel a little bit better for a moment, but then at the end of the day, just more and more suffering, um, less fulfillment, and really less confidence when I was coming from that place. But when you are in a position to say, "You know what? I'm here to shine the light on you. I'm here to lift you up. I want to be of service to you," it'll always come back. It may not come back directly in that moment, but it'll always come back around when you're focused on, "How can I serve? How can I show up to help someone else succeed? How can we all win together? How can we all grow and improve together?" And that's really a, a key in my mind is coming from a place of we, not me, and it's really hard when you lack. It's really hard when you're suffering, you're struggling, you don't have any money, you don't have the love you want, all those things. When you're coming from that place of, "I don't have," then you are going to be in a much more miserable environment because you're keeping company that is not positive and it's focused on me, not on, "How can I serve?" Not how, how I can contribute, how I can give, how can lift others up. I think it was Zig Ziglar that said, "If you want to accomplish all your goals in your life, help everyone else accomplish their goals." You know, we, we, we learn through other models of success that those who help the most people in a business become billionaires, typically. The ones that have the biggest followings, uh, of users on apps, or customers, and they are in service to those customers, they help them solve the biggest pain point or problem, those are the ones that are rewarded financially because they were in service for others, not about themselves. And then the last thing that he mentioned, which was building an irresistible offer. I think when you can create an irresistible offer in your business or in your personal life, that you show up in such a way that is so irresistible that you get the partner you want of your dreams, that you get the friends you want of your dreams, that you attract the team members, the colleagues, the, you know, all these people are attracted to you like a magnet because you are irresistible, and you're creating an irresistible offer to not be around you. The people have to be around you because you're a magnet and you're attracting them. And again, you become irresistible when you are able to go beyond your pain, go beyond your fears, your doubts, your insecurities, your lack of confidence. You become irresistible to everyone around you. You become a magnet of opportunities, of love, of attraction, of all these things by your energy, your way of being, of how you show up for other people. You're not a magnet, you're not irresistible when you are a taker, when you are negative, when you're blaming. When you're doing all these other things, you're not irresistible. So create an irresistible offer in your business and you'll be financially abundant. Become irresistible in your life, and you'll create abundance in your life. You'll feel, uh, love, support, um, guidance, friendship, connection that you've never felt before when you show up being irresistible, and that takes working on yourself. That takes developing skills. That takes overcoming your challenges, your pain. That takes being vulnerable. It takes being uncomfortable in so many different ways. It takes taking care of your body, which we talked about in the beginning. It takes a lot of different things, but greatness doesn't come to everyone who just shows up and says, "I'm negative. Give me everything. I deserve it." Greatness comes to those who are willing to look within and see all the different pain and shame and frustration that they might feel, and they learn to use that pain and to heal it, embrace it, overcome it, and really be of service for other people in the gifts and talents that they develop within themselves. That's what this is all about. I've learned a lot of lessons from Tony Robbins over the years. This is just some reflection right after this interview that I wanted to share with you. We've got so many other big lessons that we've learned from Tony in some of our previous three interviews, and what I want to do is share some of those best moments

9. 1:00:47 – 1:13:16

   Earning Versus Compounding: Wealth Lessons and Fees

   1. LHLewis Howes1:00:47

      with you right now. Because these moments blew me away when I was sitting across from Tony, and he shared these stories and these insights. So I want you to watch these right now. And before we get into it, make sure you check out the challenge, the Own Your Future Challenge. If you go to lewishowes.com/future, you can sign up for free. You can get opted in to go through this experience and learn about- How to create an irresistible offer, how to build and scale your own business by Tony Robbins, Dean Graziosi, and many other of my friends who are top business leaders and digital marketers in the world. So make sure you go to Lewishowes.com/future right now. Sign up. It's absolutely free. I want you to get this information. And now let's dive in to some of the most mind-blowing moments with Tony Robbins. [upbeat music] I feel like I've done a pretty good job of earning a lot of money over the last few years.

   2. TRTony Robbins1:01:47

      Yes.

   3. LHLewis Howes1:01:47

      When before, I never knew how to make money.

   4. TRTony Robbins1:01:49

      Yeah.

   5. LHLewis Howes1:01:49

      I was a- an athlete.

   6. TRTony Robbins1:01:51

      Yeah.

   7. LHLewis Howes1:01:51

      I was trying to make it to the NFL. That was my only focus was-

   8. TRTony Robbins1:01:54

      Yeah

   9. LHLewis Howes1:01:54

      ... playing sports.

   10. TRTony Robbins1:01:55

       Yeah, yeah.

   11. LHLewis Howes1:01:55

       I didn't, never learned about how to make money.

   12. TRTony Robbins1:01:57

       Yeah.

   13. LHLewis Howes1:01:58

       So when I was able to dive into this and really learn the ins and outs of making money, but actually allowing money to make money for you-

   14. TRTony Robbins1:02:04

       Yeah, exactly. Make money while you sleep

   15. LHLewis Howes1:02:06

       ... make money while you sleep, it was so-

   16. TRTony Robbins1:02:07

       Yeah

   17. LHLewis Howes1:02:07

       ... interesting and I feel like I've done a good job of making money over the years, but there's so much more in here that I'm, like, fascinated by.

   18. TRTony Robbins1:02:14

       Well, it's interesting 'cause the, I did the same thing. You know, I come from a very poor background-

   19. LHLewis Howes1:02:17

       Uh-huh

   20. TRTony Robbins1:02:17

       ... and we had no money for food at times, quite literally, and, uh, it was, it was rough. So I'd, I wanna make sure money wasn't a, you know, an issue for my future family, so I figured out how to make money. And I figured when I was, I don't know, 23, I figured out how to make a million dollars in a year and I went from 38,000 to a million, and you don't do that by some new strategy. It was a psychological shift as well as a strategy shift.

   21. LHLewis Howes1:02:36

       Right.

   22. TRTony Robbins1:02:36

       But then I made the same amount of money for seven straight years even though I built a dozen more companies, helped more people than ever. But it was like unconsciously, what do you want more than a million dollars? What are you, you know, are you greedy?

   23. LHLewis Howes1:02:47

       [laughs]

   24. TRTony Robbins1:02:47

       And, and I was at, I was actually staying... Where was I? I was in, um, I was in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

   25. LHLewis Howes1:02:52

       Uh-huh.

   26. TRTony Robbins1:02:52

       And I arrived at 2:00 o'clock in the morning on my birthday. I didn't have a private plane, so I had to go, like, four different connections from where I was.

   27. LHLewis Howes1:02:58

       [laughs]

   28. TRTony Robbins1:02:59

       And I get in this place, and it's a horrible place, and I call my kids, and I'm talking to this woman on the phone named Maria, who used to run my house and take care of my kids. And I said, "You know, Maria, I'm sorry it's so late, but I wanna talk to my kids." "Oh, happy birthday." She gives me this whole thing. And then she walked me, "Mr. Robbins," you know, she says, "I never dreamed I'd live in a castle," 'cause I had a place called the Golden Castle.

   29. LHLewis Howes1:03:15

       [laughs]

   30. TRTony Robbins1:03:15

       "And I, and I just wanna thank you. I feel like a princess." She goes-
10. 1:13:16 – 1:20:30

    Hunger, Legacy, Ego and Handling Failure

    1. TRTony Robbins1:13:16

       well.

    2. LHLewis Howes1:13:16

       Sure, sure. Um, in a few sentences, what would you say is your current vision for life? What's, what's the vision you have and what's the legacy that you wanna leave behind?

    3. TRTony Robbins1:13:26

       I saw, uh... Have you seen Hamilton the play in New York?

    4. LHLewis Howes1:13:28

       I hear it's incredible.

    5. TRTony Robbins1:13:29

       I just wanna-

    6. LHLewis Howes1:13:30

       Everyone's raving about it. You've seen it, right, Nick?

    7. TRTony Robbins1:13:31

       Yeah.

    8. LHLewis Howes1:13:31

       Yeah, it's amazing, right?

    9. TRTony Robbins1:13:32

       Isn't it extraordinary?

    10. LHLewis Howes1:13:33

        It's amazing, man.

    11. TRTony Robbins1:13:33

        Yeah.

    12. LHLewis Howes1:13:34

        It's awesome.

    13. TRTony Robbins1:13:34

        I, I loved it. I, I thought it was a lot, might be a lot of hype, but it was as good as, as the promise.

    14. LHLewis Howes1:13:38

        Really?

    15. TRTony Robbins1:13:38

        There's a line in Hamilton that I thought was really interesting. It says, "Legacy is planting seeds in a garden that you'll never see."

    16. LHLewis Howes1:13:45

        Oh.

    17. TRTony Robbins1:13:46

        And that was really interesting. Um, but so for me, I know-

    18. LHLewis Howes1:13:51

        What's, what's the garden you wanna create you'll never see?

    19. TRTony Robbins1:13:52

        Yeah, yeah.

    20. LHLewis Howes1:13:53

        [laughs]

    21. TRTony Robbins1:13:53

        For me, it's human lives. For me, it's, it's I love... My life is about being a blessing in the lives of the people I meet. I hope that whoever decides to watch your video, um, I hope something here will strike them and they can say, you know, "I gotta get in proximity," or, "I gotta raise my standard," or, "I'm gonna go master my damn money. I'm not gonna dabble." I hope that it stimulates someone in a way where it becomes a blessing in their life.

    22. LHLewis Howes1:14:15

        Yeah.

    23. TRTony Robbins1:14:15

        And my legacy is the lives that I've touched, and my legacy is the institutions that I'm building right now, that when I'm gone, will continue to touch people. My foundation, the work that I'm doing with mentoring with kids.

    24. LHLewis Howes1:14:26

        Mm-hmm.

    25. TRTony Robbins1:14:26

        Um, I mean, the ability to touch another generation. But my heartfelt prayer every day is be a blessing. And you know, it's interesting, sometimes you're a blessing just by giving somebody a few moments-

    26. LHLewis Howes1:14:35

        Yeah

    27. TRTony Robbins1:14:35

        ... just by loving on them, just being with them. Sometimes you're being a blessing 'cause you coach them or you intervene with them. Um, you can be a blessing in so many ways, but that's my daily focus and it's not what I'm gonna build for the long term, it's really what am I gonna do right now.

    28. LHLewis Howes1:14:49

        Why is that? I mean, why do you want to create that legacy?

    29. TRTony Robbins1:14:52

        Um, again, it's less about legacy than it is about doing what I'm made for-

    30. LHLewis Howes1:14:57

        Right
11. 1:20:30 – 1:27:32

    Partnership, Money, and Emotional Fitness

    1. LHLewis Howes1:20:30

       now I'm curious about relationships and building wealth.

    2. TRTony Robbins1:20:33

       Yeah.

    3. LHLewis Howes1:20:33

       Is it important to... Or, or how important is it to have the right partner in a marriage or an intimate relationship in relating to building wealth? Does it matter who you choose, their mindsets? Um, does any of that play the effect in how much you're gonna make or...?

    4. TRTony Robbins1:20:50

       It won't affect how much you make, but it'll affect how [laughs] your relationship a lot, right?

    5. LHLewis Howes1:20:53

       Uh-huh.

    6. TRTony Robbins1:20:54

       You know, getting on the same page is really, really important. But when my wife and I met, my wife, we both grew up very poor. But I decided that I was gonna find a way to add so much value that money would never be a question for my family and-

    7. LHLewis Howes1:21:06

       Right

    8. TRTony Robbins1:21:06

       ... and, you know, it would never stop me from giving or doing or sharing anything.

    9. LHLewis Howes1:21:10

       Yeah.

    10. TRTony Robbins1:21:10

        And I made that decision early on. So I became an earner. I have ways of earning. She became a negotiator, a cost manager. Her mom's number one thing is somebody comes in, she goes, "Sharpen your pencil. That's not a good enough deal."

    11. LHLewis Howes1:21:21

        It's good.

    12. TRTony Robbins1:21:22

        And so when we first met, I remember we were, we were in New York City, and this dates me how old I am, but I remember when they first came out with digital cameras, the very first digital cameras from Sony.

    13. LHLewis Howes1:21:31

        [laughs]

    14. TRTony Robbins1:21:32

        And it was, like, such a cool thing. You could take 12 pictures or whatever it was in those days.

    15. LHLewis Howes1:21:36

        [laughs]

    16. TRTony Robbins1:21:36

        But we were down in, um, New York City. We're in Times Square, and we went into one of those camera shops-

    17. LHLewis Howes1:21:42

        Mm

    18. TRTony Robbins1:21:42

        ... and it was Christmas time. And I saw the camera and I was, like, so excited about this camera. And I said, "You know what? I'm getting one for my brother, my sister, my mom," and, you know, I came up with, I don't know, it was like 12 cameras. And they were very expensive then.

    19. LHLewis Howes1:21:52

        Yeah.

    20. TRTony Robbins1:21:53

        I, I think they were, like, $1,200 or $2,000 each.

    21. LHLewis Howes1:21:54

        Yeah.

    22. TRTony Robbins1:21:54

        They were really crazy.

    23. LHLewis Howes1:21:56

        Now they're like 200 for the same, have the same-

    24. TRTony Robbins1:21:57

        Yeah. No, not, not even, it's a million times better.

    25. LHLewis Howes1:21:59

        Yeah.

    26. TRTony Robbins1:22:00

        But I went to the counter and the guy goes, "Oh my god, Tony Robbins, can I take a picture with you? I'll put it on the wall." And so I said, "Sure." And she goes, "Hey." She goes, "Sharpen your pencil. What kind of deal are you gonna give my boyfriend here?"

    27. LHLewis Howes1:22:10

        Oh my gosh.

    28. TRTony Robbins1:22:11

        And I wanted to grab her by the throat-

    29. LHLewis Howes1:22:13

        [laughs]

    30. TRTony Robbins1:22:13

        ... and just go, "What are you doing here?" It's like, "What are you doing?" And, and she's like, "No, no, what's the deal here?" And he goes, "Oh, well, uh, I give you 10% off." She goes, "Sharpen your pencil."
12. 1:27:32 – 1:41:09

    Gratitude, Giving and Overcoming Scarcity

    1. LHLewis Howes1:27:32

       In the book, uh, I was really excited to hear you talk about, you say the, um, secret to wealth is gratitude.

    2. TRTony Robbins1:27:38

       Yes.

    3. LHLewis Howes1:27:38

       Somewhere in the book it says that.

    4. TRTony Robbins1:27:39

       Yes.

    5. LHLewis Howes1:27:39

       And I think maybe it was someone else you were referencing.

    6. TRTony Robbins1:27:41

       Yes. It, it came from Sir John Templeton.

    7. LHLewis Howes1:27:42

       And every day I practice gratitude.

    8. TRTony Robbins1:27:45

       No, that's wonderful.

    9. LHLewis Howes1:27:45

       When I wake up and every night I always try to say to my girlfriend or someone I'm talking to before I go to sleep-

    10. TRTony Robbins1:27:50

        Yeah

    11. LHLewis Howes1:27:50

        ... three things I'm most grateful for.

    12. TRTony Robbins1:27:51

        That's great.

    13. LHLewis Howes1:27:52

        Now why ... So I was, I was pleased to see that. I was like, "I'm on the right track if I'm living-

    14. TRTony Robbins1:27:55

        Yeah

    15. LHLewis Howes1:27:55

        ... in gratitude." But why is that the secret to wealth?

    16. TRTony Robbins1:27:57

        Well, uh, Sir John Templeton's probably one of the greatest investors in history. He, people don't know his name. Uh, he started out with nothing. Um, he wasn't Sir and he wasn't from another country.

    17. LHLewis Howes1:28:06

        [laughs]

    18. TRTony Robbins1:28:06

        He came from the US. And he decided that he wanted to understand wealth, and so he saved $10,000, a huge amount of money in those days.

    19. LHLewis Howes1:28:12

        Uh-huh.

    20. TRTony Robbins1:28:13

        And when Hitler invaded Poland, he developed a belief, and his belief was you make your money in times of maximum pessimism. Like if you were around in 2000-

    21. LHLewis Howes1:28:21

        Really?

    22. TRTony Robbins1:28:21

        ... you know, 8, 9-

    23. LHLewis Howes1:28:22

        Yeah

    24. TRTony Robbins1:28:22

        ... you remember what it was like, right?

    25. LHLewis Howes1:28:23

        Yeah.

    26. TRTony Robbins1:28:24

        You could have bought, you know, the Sands in Las Vegas, you could have bought their stock for $2.28. Today it's $67.

    27. LHLewis Howes1:28:30

        Wow.

    28. TRTony Robbins1:28:30

        It's a 3000% return.

    29. LHLewis Howes1:28:32

        That's not bad.

    30. TRTony Robbins1:28:32

        Um, you could have bought s- uh, Citibank for less than a buck.
13. 1:41:09 – 2:07:50

    Becoming an Owner, Diversifying, and Why Winter Is the Best Time

    1. LHLewis Howes1:41:09

       But I wanted to ask first what the difference is between someone who is financially rich and who's, someone who's financially poor. What's the difference?

    2. TRTony Robbins1:41:17

       There's lots of differences, but I'd say the first one is someone who is financially rich is an owner. They're not a consumer. They're a consumer also, but when somebody is poor, they're a consumer. They, all they do is they take the ... You know, I always tell people we're all financial traders. A lot of people say, "I'm not a financial trader." Yes, you are. You're trading time for money.

    3. LHLewis Howes1:41:35

       Yeah.

    4. TRTony Robbins1:41:35

       And that's the worst trade you can ever make in your life. Um, somebody who's wealthy has made money their slave. They're no longer the slave to money, and the way they do that is they've figured out how to become an owner. And the way you do that in the most simplistic way, I, I even taught it in my first book, was you have to decide there's a percentage of money that you're gonna keep forever. You're not gonna give it to Kate Spade or Ferrari or anybody [laughs] else. You can do that too, but there's a percentage of that income that never will be touched, that you will grow and compound, and will provide income for the rest of your life so you don't have to work. Now, when I was growing up, everybody's goal was get rich enough so you never have to work. Now, like, all my friends are 15, 18 years my senior, people like, uh, Steve Wynn in-

    5. LHLewis Howes1:42:14

       Mm

    6. TRTony Robbins1:42:14

       ... m- most of Las Vegas. He's, like, 74. Uh, Warren Buffett's 85. Uh, Peter Guber, one of my dearest friends in the world, owns the Golden State Warriors, the LA Dodgers.

    7. LHLewis Howes1:42:22

       Yeah.

    8. TRTony Robbins1:42:22

       We're partners in the LAFC football team in LA. Um, brilliant guy, 74 years old. And they're all working harder now than they ever were, and they don't have to work. So the goal is make enough money so you don't have to work, and then you'll do what you love-

    9. LHLewis Howes1:42:35

       Right

    10. TRTony Robbins1:42:35

        ... and you'll pour your time and energy into it. But you have to make that decision. It's the first, most important decision, is I'm gonna become an owner of American business. You don't wanna have an Apple phone and not own Apple, and you don't wanna just own Apple, because any company can go up and down.

    11. LHLewis Howes1:42:49

        Right.

    12. TRTony Robbins1:42:49

        Right? You wanna own the index. You wanna own, you know, a variety with enough diversification. But if you can just shift, and I've taught people who've told me they couldn't, they have no money, they can't save.

    13. LHLewis Howes1:42:59

        Mm.

    14. TRTony Robbins1:42:59

        It's really easy once you get momentum.

    15. LHLewis Howes1:43:01

        Yeah.

    16. TRTony Robbins1:43:01

        There's a research project I did with, um, a gentleman, uh, who was nominated for a Nobel Prize on behavioral finance, and what he did was he said, "If you can even, you know ... You need to save 15% ideally, but if you could even save 3%," 'cause anybody can do that.

    17. LHLewis Howes1:43:16

        Right.

    18. TRTony Robbins1:43:16

        They took a group of blue collar workers in the Midwest and said, "We're gonna force you to save 3%." I think it was three and a quarter or three and a half. But then we're ... Everybody can di- go on a diet tomorrow.

    19. LHLewis Howes1:43:26

        Mm.

    20. TRTony Robbins1:43:26

        Everybody can save money tomorrow, right?

    21. LHLewis Howes1:43:28

        Yeah.

    22. TRTony Robbins1:43:28

        So his tool was, all right, you're not gonna save today. You're gonna save tomorrow. We'll do the 3.5%, but then you go to your employer and say, "The next time I get a raise, the first 5% goes to my savings account, to my investing account." And then every time you get a raise, you do that. Well, in 14 years, the average person was saving 15% and the top 40% were saving 20.

    23. LHLewis Howes1:43:50

        Mm.

    24. TRTony Robbins1:43:50

        Now let me explain what that means. Uh, you and I were together before. I, I... When I'm trying to explain compounding to people, everybody understands it intellectually, but when I ask some of the richest people in the world, "What are most investors failing to do?" And they all say, "They're not tapping the power of compounding." So if you're in a situation where, a- as an example, let's take, um, your... You've got $100,000-

    25. LHLewis Howes1:44:12

        Mm

    26. TRTony Robbins1:44:12

        ... that you've saved. You're 35 years old, and you put it in the market and just leave it there and never add anything to it. If you leave it in the market and you're only being charged 1% in fees, at retirement 35 years later, you got 762,000 from that hundred. Never added a dime. It grew that much.

    27. LHLewis Howes1:44:27

        Wow.

    28. TRTony Robbins1:44:28

        But if you pay 3% in fees, which is the average most people are paying. When you ask people what they're paying, they don't know-

    29. LHLewis Howes1:44:32

        Yeah

    30. TRTony Robbins1:44:32

        ... or they say 1%. Because when you hear about fees, let's say a mutual fund fee-

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