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Lewis HowesYour Subconscious Mind Is Sabotaging You (Here's How To Rewire It) | Peter Crone
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135 min read · 27,254 words- 0:00 – 3:26
Intro
- PCPeter Crone
I don't know many humans who don't suffer. They're just trying to avoid a bad future that hasn't happened yet. It's one of the craziest paradoxes of being human is that whilst it's a great survival instrument, it's a horrific way of living a thriving, creative life. It wasn't love. It was more attachment, possession, codependency. That's how most relationships get formed.
- LHLewis Howes
Insecurity too, right?
- PCPeter Crone
All of it.
- LHLewis Howes
A leading expert in human potential and performance who has spent decades coaching elite athletes, top executives, and high performers. Please welcome Peter Crone. How hard is it to create amazing love in a relationship with someone else?
- PCPeter Crone
True love is learning to embrace all parts of you, including the part of you that feels unlovable. If I'm fully okay with me, then I can extend that to others. If I'm not, then I'm only gonna find fault with those that I meet. You pick up a pen that's got red ink in it, it's gonna write in red. Like, it doesn't matter how hard you try. The conditioning of our subconscious will eventually manifest.
- LHLewis Howes
Do you feel like most people are suffering in the world today?
- PCPeter Crone
Oh, gosh.
- LHLewis Howes
Welcome back, everyone, to The School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have the inspiring Peter Crone in the house. Good to see you, sir.
- PCPeter Crone
I mean it. It's genuinely great to be here. This is such a pleasure, and yeah, I, I just admire who you are and even more so after our little, uh, tête-à-tête before.
- LHLewis Howes
We, we had a whole podcast before this, so now we're gonna start recording for real.
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
Everything that you teach people is around how to create less suffering and more freedom.
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
And I'm curious, um, what do you think is the number one thing then that blocks people from reaching their full potential with freedom in mind?
- PCPeter Crone
Oh, gosh. I mean, I feel borderline concerned that I might speak for an hour to that just alone. Um, I think it's part of the joy and the challenge of being human, which is we become misidentified with this sort of identity of ourselves. Like, there's this personality that typically gets forged in our childhood. We think that we're this, we're not that. Kids are often told, "Don't do this. You're bad. You're wrong. You're right." And so we start to forge this facade, and that becomes the very constraint against which we tend to spend the rest of our life trying to overcome or disproving, fixing it or pr- improving. And, um, so that, to me, is the greatest obstacle. Like, I literally, over the retreat, I was telling you a little bit about, I said the greatest adversary any human being is ever gonna sort of face during the course of their life is their own identity. To me, it's the ultimate addiction, is the idea of ourselves that, um, becomes the obstacle to the very essence of who we are beneath that, so that's why one of my catchphrases is, "I don't solve problems, I dissolve them."
- LHLewis Howes
Mm. Is the subconscious mind something that develops our identity?
- PCPeter Crone
I would say it's the foundation for it. So these underlying, um... Very similar to, like, we're obviously in a huge building here, and the size of the building has to be commensurate with the size of the foundation or vice versa, right? Like, we couldn't, uh, build the foundations that were set for a 1,200-square-foot home and build this beautiful building that you've got your studio in. It wouldn't... They're, they're incompatible, right? So I think the subconscious creates the foundation for then the personality which is born from that. So the genesis of who we think we are is really built upon these, you know, Carl Jung would call it more unconscious ideas of ourselves that inform the way that we think, feel, act, and then the commensurate results that come from that.
- LHLewis Howes
Right.
- 3:26 – 6:33
How Past Trauma Shapes Identity
- LHLewis Howes
I mean, you talk about this, where you were seven when you lost your mom-
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... and then 17 when you lost your dad.
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
So you were alone, essentially, without parents, without biological parents by 17.
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
How did that experience and environment and subconscious programming-
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... develop your identity at 17?
- PCPeter Crone
Um, I mean, unfortunately, I wasn't aware of it until many years later [laughs] which is always the case, right? Uh, but what I discovered in my first kind of what I thought was a loving relationship as best as I could know at the ripe old age of 28-
- LHLewis Howes
Uh-huh
- PCPeter Crone
... um, the first person I thought was, "Oh, my God, she's the one," [laughs] um, uh, was the, like, a profound sense of fear of loss. So what that looked like in the relationship was the compensation patterns, the strategies, was do everything I could to, as is always the case, like I s- I use quotes as you know, say, "Past hurt informs future fear." So my past hart, past hurt of parents dying, no one would begrudge me. You know, that was, uh, obviously a very challenging situation to go through. And so the way that I would try to compensate, which is how the brain works, right? It's designed to predict and protect. So it's one of the craziest, like, paradoxes of being human is that whilst it's a great survival instrument, it's a horrific, like, way of living a thriving, creative life where we can be free. It's more we're looking out for these worst-case scenarios or, as I tell people, the, you know, they're just trying to avoid a bad future that hasn't happened yet, right? So I was trying to avoid a bad future of loss. What that looked like in the relationship was I became the perfect boyfriend.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- PCPeter Crone
So it was not just Peter who she adored and loved. She had no issue with me. It was my way of trying to mitigate the hurt that I was still carrying.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- PCPeter Crone
So the perfect boyfriend became Peter Plus, right? And so, um-
- LHLewis Howes
Over and above everything was it like.
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah, I was already loving, kind, generous. I considered myself to be a good dude, you know? Like, I've never shouted. I've never hit anyone. I've never cheated. Like, you know, on paper, like, I check all the boxes, but it was, that was insufficient for my identity-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- PCPeter Crone
... which was like, "I love this person," which, of course, now I see wasn't love. It was more attachment, possession, codependency. That's how most relationships get formed, the-
- LHLewis Howes
Insecurity, too, right?
- PCPeter Crone
All of it.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- PCPeter Crone
Right. Fear. And so that then created the, what I consider to be the best strategy, which is all unconscious, right? It's all survival. The primordial imperative of every mammal is to survive. So I'm trying to survive, not realizing what I'm trys- trying to survive is my own feelings of inadequacy that she might leave me-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah. Wow
- PCPeter Crone
... which then becomes self-fulfilling, right? So when people talk about sabotage, it's not inaccurate, but I want people to consider it's not sabotage so much as self-fulfillment. Right? Like, you're not sabotaging anything. You're actually fulfilling on your code and your wiring
- LHLewis Howes
A projection of your program
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
All right
- PCPeter Crone
So it's like you pick up a pen that's got red ink in it, you know, like, it- it's gonna- it's gonna write in red. Like, it doesn't matter how hard you try. So likewise with our wiring, the conditioning of our subconscious will eventually manifest. Like, people talk about manifestation all day, and I'm like, I just feel they have no full understanding. So yeah, so that led to her leaving, which was, at the time, the most painful thing that subsequently
- 6:33 – 14:03
The Epiphany That Ends Suffering
- PCPeter Crone
became the most powerful thing 'cause about two months after my own demise of, you know, my suffering and my sadness and my desperation, I, for whatever bizarre reasons in the way that my karma apparently is scheduled to unfold, I had this sudden epiphany and I was asking these questions incessantly. Like, "Where is she? Will I see her again one day? Is she dating someone else? Will I have love like that again?" You know? [laughs] And, um, it was keeping me up at night quite literally 'cause I'm trying to find the answer to the question, which is the way that the ego tries to resolve its own fear with certainty, which itself is a complete misnomer 'cause life is uncertain. So when I realized, um, there was no answer to the questions, I guess I got the epiphany of the answer to all the questions in the same time. Where is she? Is she dating someone else? Will I see her again? Will I fall in love? It was all the same answer: I don't know.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- PCPeter Crone
I don't know where she is. I don't know if she's dating. It was just emphatically the truth, and for the first time in my life, I realized not only is the nature of life uncertainty, which is such a conflict for the ego that wants to know, but I was completely at peace with it. I felt a freedom through my body cascade in every cell that I'd never, ever experienced, and that started my whole next chapter in my career and-
- LHLewis Howes
Really?
- PCPeter Crone
I met... Yeah. I met some people for dinner. The craziest part, with- without getting too deep down the rabbit hole, quantum physics, within 15 minutes, back then, without showing my age, you know, I think I had a cellphone, but everything was pred- predominantly landline. [laughs] I was sitting at my shitty IKEA desk in a rent-controlled apartment with next to nothing for my name, and the phone rang within 15 minutes of the epiphany, right? And now she calls me. I haven't spoken to her for six weeks. Now she's crying.
- LHLewis Howes
This is like Swingers.
- PCPeter Crone
[laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
Have you seen the movie Swingers?
- PCPeter Crone
No. [laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
Oh, man. Okay.
- PCPeter Crone
I think I have a different-
- LHLewis Howes
He finally, like-
- PCPeter Crone
... interpretation of Swingers. [laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
No, no, no. He finally, in the movie, he finally, like, lets go of the girl he's obsessed about, that they're not together for a year.
- PCPeter Crone
Okay
- LHLewis Howes
And then she calls him, and he's like, "This is the test."
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
It's like, okay, do I go back to the old person or-
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... old place?
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
Or do I, now that she's given me everything I want, am I ready to move on type of thing.
- PCPeter Crone
Right
- LHLewis Howes
But when she called you, what happened?
- PCPeter Crone
A, a myriad of things went through my mind so quickly just by virtue of the fact that I had stepped into a new dimension, right? Without sounding too poetic.
- LHLewis Howes
Energetically.
- PCPeter Crone
Energetically, I was a new human being.
- LHLewis Howes
You shifted.
- PCPeter Crone
Completely, and it really spoke to, in quantum realms, entanglement theory, right? So what I realized simultaneously, like within split seconds, all of these different, like, bubbles just popped where I was like, holy shit, life is uncertainty. I'm totally at peace with that, and even if I'm not, it doesn't matter how much I try to work it out, and I'm pretty high IQ. I'm still not gonna know because life is uncertainty, right? That, that's the paradox. Like, we're designed as humans to try and perpetuate our existence.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- 14:03 – 23:09
Self-Acceptance & True Love
- LHLewis Howes
... If someone wants to create the most beautiful love life that they've ever had, what type of relationship do they need to have with themselves first before they can create that in a relationship with someone else?
- PCPeter Crone
Ooh, what a beautiful question. I mean, in the simplest terms, it's the most profound capital A acceptance of self.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- PCPeter Crone
Right? Love is an all-embracing experience. There's no agenda with love. Now, there's different forms. I talk about masculine and feminine. I think feminine is much more unconditional, like the child, which congrats again on becoming a dad. Like, you know, as the babies grow and they start to stumble and fall or even fail at school or have their first heartbreak, typically mom's the first one that they will go to because that represents unconditional love, right? There's an all-pervasive acceptance of whoever you are, whatever you're expressing. I think that's why women are incredible, like, friends, right? 'Cause a girlfriend can just lose it and her friend gets it. You know, I think this is where men tend to be horrific listeners, right? 'Cause they wanna fix it, [laughs] right?
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- PCPeter Crone
And so after the fact then, you know, you come to the dad maybe as a child, and then that's like, okay, well now you feel held, seen, and heard with the three qualities I say every human being wants. And then the dad can bring in the discipline and the understanding and the analysis of like, well, you know, your girl was riding her bike for the first time. She's five and she fell off and, you know, it's got a boo-boo and she's bleeding a little bit, a little scuff on her knee, and mom takes care of it and cleans it up and then she comes to you, and you can go back out there and give her the courage and help her understand, well, the speed and da, da, da, you know, and all the analytics, right? So I think in order to get to that place, we, we kind of have to embody both masculine and feminine, right? Which is to have the part of us that allows all of us ... And I always say, like, what better backdrop against what to lear- what to feel love and learn love than the imperfection of our own humanity, right?
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- PCPeter Crone
Like, which human doesn't like or love the parts of themselves that they get compliments on or that they know they've-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- PCPeter Crone
... got great skin, great hair, great, you know-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah, yeah
- PCPeter Crone
... boobs, great butt, great [laughs] whatever it is, right? It's like, yes, but then they see the cellulite or the crooked nose or the whatever, rugby ears with guys I used to grow up with at school and, you know. It's like that, that's the real, that's the treasure of where I developed love, you know? And I say true love is learning to embrace all parts of you, including the part of you that feels unlovable.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm. That's it right there.
- PCPeter Crone
And that's the precursor to a great relationship, because if I'm fully-
- LHLewis Howes
That's it
- PCPeter Crone
... okay with me, then I can extend that to others. If I'm not, then I'm only gonna find fault with those that I meet.
- LHLewis Howes
So if we live in a state of shame, guilt-
- PCPeter Crone
[clears throat]
- LHLewis Howes
... or not enough-ness, how hard is it to create amazing love in a relationship with someone else?
- PCPeter Crone
I don't know if it's how hard, I just say it's impossible. [laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
Wow.
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah. Yeah, I would say it's impossible, 'cause it wouldn't be real love, it would be compensatory love. It would be adaptive-
- LHLewis Howes
Performative also, in a sense, right?
- PCPeter Crone
It's strategic, right? Meaning so if I'm-
- LHLewis Howes
Survival love.
- PCPeter Crone
Yes, which therefore isn't love.
- LHLewis Howes
Don't leave me, stay with me-
- PCPeter Crone
[laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
... what do I need to do so that you love me or whatever, right?
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah, which is dependency, which is human. And I have all the compassion, like again, one of my quotes, though, you can't be held accountable for that which you're oblivious to, which breeds compassion.
- 23:09 – 25:19
Why Willpower Fails
- LHLewis Howes
through willpower it sounds like.
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
It's like, okay, I'm gonna will myself to changing habits or changing, like, a positive mindset, but if you are stuck with a r- a wiring or a subconscious mind or a nervous system that is still stuck in a past trauma or-
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... past belief or past identity-
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... why will willpower not work?
- PCPeter Crone
Beautiful question. I hope I can sum it up quite quickly and succinctly for people. So willpower is an aspect of the ego based in survival. So I make a distinction. I love to, to sort of use language to help people unpack things. So willpower is based in the energy of force. Even if you look at it anatomically, force physiologically is eventually gonna create lactic acid. It's not an efficient-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- PCPeter Crone
... energy system, right? But-
- LHLewis Howes
Not sustainable.
- PCPeter Crone
Totally.
- LHLewis Howes
It's not renewable. It's not reusable, right?
- PCPeter Crone
No, you're gonna collapse, right?
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- PCPeter Crone
Which is what happens when we're coming from ego. You hit your head up against the wall. You go to work in a job you don't love.
- LHLewis Howes
Burn out.
- PCPeter Crone
You're in a relationship, and fuck it, right? And then the second one is power. Like I always say, like, with my athletes, I always... which I know you've got a lot of background in, I'll ask them to say, "I'm forceful," and I want them to feel that. How does that come across? If you are competing at whatever your chosen sport is, and you're coming from a forceful place, describe that. They're like, "I feel tense. I'm pushing hard. I'm not in flow, da, da, da, and I'm trying to make things happen." And then I say, "You're powerful." And they're like, "Wow, I just feel so at peace," right?
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- PCPeter Crone
So they're the distinctions. But to answer the question directly why it doesn't work is I say you can use force to temporarily override habits, right? That's all that force is doing. Willpower, you're inspired by someone, you know, you, you go to a coach, you talk to a therapist, you watch something on TV, listen hopefully to many of your shows that are inspiring and they're like, "You know what? Fuck it. This is my month. I'm gonna get in shape." Even the beginning of the year, right, the misnomer that January's the time that I should get in shape. I mean, it's all just made up. It's ridiculous, but most people cancel their membership in February. Like, the stats speak for themselves. So you can use force to temporarily override habit, but you can never violate identity.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- PCPeter Crone
And when people get that, like that's the self-fulfilling prophecy of your own programming.
- LHLewis Howes
So how do we shift from-
- 25:19 – 33:47
How to Shift Your Identity
- PCPeter Crone
Mm
- LHLewis Howes
... the old self, the old identity that has strategically helped us get to where we are-
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... helped us survive, these strategies have served us in certain ways to survive-
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... to get to a certain level.
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
Then eventually we all figure out that, okay, that level has limits.
- PCPeter Crone
Mm.
- LHLewis Howes
And so how do we shift an old identity into a new identity if it's not willpower?
- PCPeter Crone
One word, death.
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs] Kill the ego?
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah. [laughs] Yeah, it's death. I mean, it's really the ultimate metamorphosis-
- LHLewis Howes
Without physically dying
- PCPeter Crone
... no.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- PCPeter Crone
Well, no, i- in a way, right? Like, and this is a powerful distinction for people to understand. Death, I love talking about death. Like, I studied much of the Eastern philosophies.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- PCPeter Crone
There's a book called, or books called the Upanishads, which is sort of this spoken, um, distillation over generations, the orators, the gurus that would pass on through spoken word these different powerful distinctions, right? So there's a group of books called the Upanishads, and there's one called the Katha, K-A-T-H-A, if anyone wants to read it, uh, where this little boy goes to talk to the death, uh, god or the god of death to discover what is this thing. Um, and he talks about the only way to, um, be free of death is to die to the idea of death itself.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- PCPeter Crone
And so again, we get poetic, and it's really the eternal nature, I would assert, is who we are. Form comes and goes. We've been talking for, well, an hour and a half before, which is beautiful, and 20 minutes maybe on air, but in that period we're not the same physical person-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- PCPeter Crone
... 'cause millions, millions of cells are dying, and to the degree that our cells are able to replicate without any kind of com- uh, compensations or compromise, we stay young. This is the whole world of longevity, right? Like in telomeres and, you know, real cell replication, if you really understand it, is without the context of we have a arc of existence. If, if that wasn't there with telomeres or whatever is really sort of the trigger switch for us to eventually leave this paradigm, then cell replication means you sort of live forever, right? Which is what longevity experts are trying to tap into. Funnily enough, that's really what happens to a cancerous cell, right? It sort of replicates perfectly, and then it overtakes. Um, and we can get into that, but I think cells that are in that state are living in a hostile environment, so that's physiologically for me the quintessential expression of survival is a cell that's like, "I'm out of here. I've got to do my own thing," which is no different than a kid that runs away from home in a hostile environment.
- LHLewis Howes
Yes.
- PCPeter Crone
So if you look at it physiologically. But to come back to death, really what I'm talking about is the death of identity, which is based in linguistics. It's the death of the idea of yourself, or as I say, the only way to stay really alive is to constantly die to previous iterations of yourself. So to overcome identity is-
- LHLewis Howes
So how do we do that?
- PCPeter Crone
Step one, awareness. Carl Jung, great quote, "Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will drive your life and you'll call it fate."
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- PCPeter Crone
So when it's like, "Oh, I knew that would happen. Too good to be true. I knew it wouldn't last," right? As though it happened to us, not realizing our programming is the precursor to the unfolding of the manifest world. So without fault, and I said you can't be held accountable for that which you're oblivious to, that breeds compassion. It's like, oh, by virtue of my conditioning, I think, feel, act, and then create the life that is now what I see on the screen that I'm trying to adjust without realizing the projection room is behind me and the 35-millimeter screen, which is my, or the film, is my subconscious, which is informing the way I see things. So-
- LHLewis Howes
Based on the programming that I've had for my whole life.
- 33:47 – 48:08
Triggers Reveal Your Lack of Freedom
- PCPeter Crone
it's, uh ... One of my favorite quotes that gets shared the most is that life will present you with people and circumstances to reveal where you're not free.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- PCPeter Crone
That's why we're here.
- LHLewis Howes
That's so true.
- PCPeter Crone
And that's why-
- LHLewis Howes
Gosh, man
- PCPeter Crone
... isn't that powerful?
- LHLewis Howes
So true.
- PCPeter Crone
I mean, I'm-
- LHLewis Howes
Is there ... Where in your life right now has life revealed where you're not free?
- PCPeter Crone
It's been a minute. I mean, even on the back of the retreat, it's kind of funny. Like, we were talking about this before, and I'm always happy to share anything. I'm an open book. I have nothing to hide. And during the course of the retreat, day two, a guy stands up, and he shared, he said, "I just wanna point out who this guy is on stage. I don't think many of you realize." Like, they're all here. They've flown across the world. They've spent money that they probably have, you know, grappled to put together in, in ways that they're really committed to the work, and it means a lot to me. I'm, I'm ... Uh, I think you probably experience this. As much as my star has ridden, risen, I would say commensurate with that is my humility, right?
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- PCPeter Crone
Like I, I've gone the other way.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- PCPeter Crone
I was probably more cocky when I was insecure. Now I'm like, I'm just so flattered-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- PCPeter Crone
... when anyone stops me and says thank you. So, um, I stood on the stage, never spoken to this guy. He's been in my mastermind. And, uh, he said, "I don't know if you understand." He said, "I'm in finance. I've done the math. I want you all to realize how much this guy cares, 'cause he's pouring his heart and soul out helping you transform lives on stage live, holding space for people who've been abused, hit, sexually assaulted, uh, with all the care in the world, and he's losing money on this event." And I just started crying. And so I would say there's a component, and I'm sure you can relate to this as a leader, that, you know, I don't ... I'm not particularly religious. I think that's part of your background, and I love pulling tenants from powerful dogmas and stories and great leaders before us, and I love the expression Jesus said where, "Forgive them, Lord. They know not what they do."
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm.
- PCPeter Crone
And so sometimes I realize I have a gift, um, that I can't even explain but I'm grateful for. I feel like the luckiest man alive to be able to do what I do. But at times it means that people can't see what I see. You know, there's the expression of talent can hit a target no one else can hit.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- PCPeter Crone
Genius can hit a target no one else can see. And it's some-
- LHLewis Howes
What's the target you're trying to hit?
- PCPeter Crone
For me, there's no ... It's no more trying for me. Like, I'm hitting a target no one can see.
- LHLewis Howes
Ah.
- PCPeter Crone
That's the gift, right? Like, people are like, "How can you change someone's life so quickly-
- LHLewis Howes
Wow
- PCPeter Crone
... someone you've never met?" They stand up in a live. They talk about an eating disorder that-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- PCPeter Crone
... started with sexual abuse, and now they're da, da, da, da. And-
- LHLewis Howes
That's your gift.
- 48:08 – 54:27
The Power of Holding Space
- LHLewis Howes
of seeing, holding space for someone emotionally, energetically, spiritually-
- PCPeter Crone
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... because it is probably the most vulnerable thing to do-
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... to put yourself out there and say, "I see you. I acknowledge you."
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
You know, what you just did there was so powerful and profound. Like, thank you for the gift that you are. Most people-
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... don't have the awareness or the skillset-
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... to say it because it is scary.
- PCPeter Crone
It's scary.
- LHLewis Howes
It's hard to do.
- PCPeter Crone
And I think at an even more subtle, primal level, they're too busy trying to survive.
- LHLewis Howes
Of course.
- PCPeter Crone
Like, the power of acknowledgement, if you really understand it-
- LHLewis Howes
Yes
- PCPeter Crone
... it's a, it's a very generous act. I don't think, you know, for people like yourself, and, you know, I work with the best of the best in all s- walks of life, right? And so I've seen this with my athletes. I've seen this with my VIPs, where there's this assumption that they, they, they're just good, right? Like as you said earlier. And yet there's that, still that innocence of a child, whether it's unreconciled trauma or just the, the fact that we carry that with us.
- LHLewis Howes
Yes.
- PCPeter Crone
You know? You don't forget what you went through, even if you've transcended it or integrated it.
- LHLewis Howes
Yes, yes.
- PCPeter Crone
And so that's where I feel like the, the ability to acknowledge speaks volumes about somebody's own work to have transcended their own need for recognition or survival.
- LHLewis Howes
Yes. Uh-huh.
- PCPeter Crone
And there's not many people who've gotten to that, right? And so it's not like I'm missing. It's just, it's kinda nice even for me, like, you know, people come to me with all sorts of questions and woes, and I, and I love that. I feel very privileged that I get to hold space, and even people have-
- LHLewis Howes
And serve. Yeah, yeah
- PCPeter Crone
... and to serve. And people like, you know ... I, I had a, a live event a few months ago, and every person who stood up, it's predominantly a female audience, I think for a number of reasons. I think the, the female archetype is a little more evolved. They're more intuitive, and they get this work.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- PCPeter Crone
And they wanna be the nurturers. They wanna understand. Men are too busy trying to, you know, conquer and survive, and they love challenges, and they're out, out in the world, and the women are more the inner work, right? And but these three women stood up at my live and every single conversation built upon itself in vulnerability. Like, the first woman stood up and it was so profound in terms of her talking about not having a cycle for 20 years and how that had, you know, obviously created, like, so much doubt and judgment, and, uh, it, it stemmed from an eating disorder that she developed because she saw once on a TV show these women with eating disorders and they got attention. So she thought, "Finally, if I-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- PCPeter Crone
... stop eating, I'll get attention from my mother," who didn't see her.
- 54:27 – 1:06:52
Why Your Partner Isn't #1
- LHLewis Howes
question, you know?
- PCPeter Crone
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
To every woman asks a guy at some point-
- PCPeter Crone
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... like, "Hey, what are your priorities in life?"
- PCPeter Crone
Mm-hmm.
- LHLewis Howes
"And in this relationship?" And I told her, "Are you sure you want the truth?"
- PCPeter Crone
Mm.
- LHLewis Howes
"Because if I tell you the honest truth, you're not gonna wanna be with me, or you're gonna be upset, or you're gonna cry or something, 'cause this is what's happened to me in the past."
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
No woman wanted to hear what I had to say, or they were, they were hurt by it.
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah. Or overwhelmed.
- LHLewis Howes
Overwhelmed by it, right?
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
And she said ... You know, then now she got worried. She's like, "What do you mean? What's gonna ha- ... You know, what are you ... [laughs] Is this some dark thing or something?"
- PCPeter Crone
[laughs]
- LHLewis Howes
I go, "No."
- PCPeter Crone
I've got six dead people in my basement.
- LHLewis Howes
But [laughs] exa- [laughs] But I was like, "My p- you know, my priorities, when I say them to people, it sounds really selfish, and I just don't think you're gonna be ... You're, you're not gonna wanna be with me after this."
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
So, you know, I was actually getting sad before I said it because I was like, "Man, this has been a great few months, but I think-
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... it's, like, it's over probably."
- PCPeter Crone
Little courage then.
- LHLewis Howes
And she was like, "No, I wanna hear it. Let's ..." You know? I said, "Okay. My number one priority, uh, in our relationship will never be you," and I don't know any woman that doesn't wanna hear ... that wants to hear from the man that they're in a relationship with-
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... that they are not number one.
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
And I said, "My number one priority is, is gonna be always be my health, or at least I want it to be my health-
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- 1:06:52 – 1:19:03
The Truth About Manifestation
- LHLewis Howes
earlier, about most people don't understand manifestation or they're doing it wrong.
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
What is manifestation and what's the right way to do it?
- PCPeter Crone
Um, great question. So I would say manifestation is a word that's attributed to something that the ego thinks it's incumbent upon itself to do, right? And that's really where the ego comes from, right?
- LHLewis Howes
Oh.
- PCPeter Crone
It's like, okay, I am gonna manifest. But to your great question earlier about how do we overcome these deep ingrained programs and conditionings, we can't do it through willpower. I'd say for that reason, manifestation has become a bedfellow with willpower, right? I'm gonna manifest my dream partner, the dream home, the yacht, the money, da da da. So really if we look at the mechanics of it, like not being a spiritual teacher but a phys- physicist, your conditioning, if we look at the chain of creation of, like, the genesis of anything, I would assert that there's consciousness to begin with, and there's subconscious constraints that lead to our conscious thinking built in with our limiting beliefs that create our emotional body, our actions, and our outcome. That is the chain of manifestation. Where most people get stuck is we see experts, teachers like, "Do this, don't do that." We're in the realm of action, which is so far downstream. It's like stage five, right? Like, you know, you can with willpower, okay, the doctor told me this, don't do that, stop eating In-N-Out burgers or whatever people are doing. I'll bring my cholesterol level down. But you're never actually gonna be able to sustain that 'cause you can't violate identity, which is way upstream with your subconscious. So-
- LHLewis Howes
Or you'll always fall back into your programming.
- PCPeter Crone
Have to, right? You can't violate-
- LHLewis Howes
So you might be able to get results, but then eventually-
- PCPeter Crone
Temporarily
- LHLewis Howes
... you fall back into programming.
- PCPeter Crone
You know?
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- PCPeter Crone
Fall in love, you've got all of this new enthusiasm for life. You're like, "This is the time," or, "This is the new year and I'm gonna get it," whatever it is. We get these momentary glimpses of greatness, you know?
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- PCPeter Crone
And it's like, but it can't be sustained because the wiring is like, yeah, that's cute, but wait till we kick in. [laughs] So manifestation is really understanding that chain. I look at the three arenas of time, space, and identity, right? So if manifestation is, it's usually something outside of us, I wanna manifest, fill in the blank. It's always based in time because wanting as an energetic creates time, right? Wanting is a future-based proposition. We don't have. If we want, we don't have. There-
- LHLewis Howes
And is it, is it coming now? Is it coming in a year or 10 years? Like, when will it come to me?
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah. Either way, it's, it's in the future, right? It's not here. That's-
- LHLewis Howes
And it's something we lack in the moment.
- PCPeter Crone
And it's always, that to me is one of the predominant prisons that I talk about, which is our relationship to the present moment, which is the lens of this isn't it, right? That, that's a default. Factory setting's there. The way-
- LHLewis Howes
What we have now isn't-
- PCPeter Crone
It isn't it. But I'm getting there. I'm getting there. I'm working really hard. I've got... I subscribed to this new magazine that's gonna help me to whatever, [laughs] you know.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah, lose five pounds in five days.
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah, yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah, yeah.
- PCPeter Crone
Men's Health, six-pack abs-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah, yeah, yeah
- PCPeter Crone
... how to get them. Three decades of telling you, and you still don't have them, you know? [laughs] Um, so they're the three arenas where there's this mon- misnomer. It's outside of me, uh, it's based in time, right? It's gonna take a while, and it's incumbent upon me. So they're the big-
- LHLewis Howes
I have to do something.
- PCPeter Crone
But the doing, if we look at the cascade, subconscious, beliefs, feelings, actions, do something, outcomes, right? It's way too late. So true manifestation is really the revelatory process of understanding your wiring, that you are doing nothing but manifesting all day. That's it. You know, all you do as a human is manifest. So it's not like I'm manifesting 'cause of my wiring, and then I, big sort of I- ego, am gonna manifest on top of the manifestation that's happening automatically.
- 1:19:03 – 1:33:31
Breaking the "Not Enough" Trap
- LHLewis Howes
has some type of negative belief-
- PCPeter Crone
Mm-hmm
- LHLewis Howes
... that is connected to their identity, current state-
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... they have a memory from the past that made them believe that they are bad and wrong.
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
Whatever it might be, abuse, abandonment, they cheated, they did something wrong, someone did something wrong to them-
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... and they believe they are not lovable, they are bad, they are wrong, they are not enough.
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
And they've held onto that for 10, 20, 30 years.
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
How would you coach someone watching or listening right now, no matter what the belief is-
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... around I'm not enough-
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... I'm not lovable, I'm not worthy. How would you speak to them, no matter what the story is, on how to uncover that that's not true when they've been ... Their whole life they've said, "This is true."
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah, yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
This is my identity.
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
This is who I am.
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
How do they pull back the curtain and realize that they can shift into a new identity that is lovable and enough?
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah. Beautiful question, and it really, I think, speaks volumes about you, the host, the man, you know, who's so committed to helping people. And even at the beginning when you asked me, you know, what would, what would be the byproduct of ... What would make this a powerful conversation, and maybe this is that moment where we can ... And my response to you is that we, we really help nudge the needle from suffering to freedom-
- LHLewis Howes
Yes
- PCPeter Crone
... for millions of people.
- LHLewis Howes
Yes.
- PCPeter Crone
So it's slippery. It's not impossible, but not many people are walking around thinking they're not enough. It's different thoughts of I won't get the promotion. I'm not lovable. I'm not gonna find someone. I'm not gonna get the success that my parents wish I had, or you know, it's sort of a ... It's typically-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah, yeah
- PCPeter Crone
... a subtle step away. But if people can at least-
- 1:33:31 – 1:46:42
How Fear Manifests as Disease
- PCPeter Crone
stuff.
- LHLewis Howes
How do our mental stories and emotional fears manifest in the physical body?
- PCPeter Crone
Ooh, that's a whole podcast. I mean, dis-ease, like the ... Okay, so I'll break down the current operating system, what I call the 1.0 mindset, which its predominant imperative is survival.
- LHLewis Howes
Uh-huh.
- PCPeter Crone
So it's based in limitation, which we've covered ad nauseam today, which is limiting code. I'm not something. Like a limitation in the language that we use to identify ourself creates the predominant emotion of fear, right? That's, that's the cascade. Limiting language, it's a survival instinct, and therefore we are, to some degree, it's a cascade, you know, terror and panic at one extreme, and mild concern and worry at another. But overall, it's a fear-based, uh, relationship to life. Looking out for, don't wanna get in trouble with the missus, don't wanna upset the boss, don't wanna lose my job, don't want my parents-
- LHLewis Howes
It's language.
- PCPeter Crone
Language is the limitation. How that shows up in our emotional body is predominantly fear. Now, people are walking around saying, "Oh, I'm not scared," but I probably, if you booed them or, you know, they got some news about they're about to be fired-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- PCPeter Crone
... they would go into fear, right? It's there beneath the surface. As I say, other people's words don't upset you, they just relieve what you already ... They reveal what you already believed about yourself, right? Fear then gives the overarching experience, which we've discussed again, certainly now and then prior, suffering. Suffering, first noble truth of Buddhism, I think, you know, to be human is to suffer, inextricably connected. It's like saying, "I'm gonna jump in the ocean, but I don't wanna get wet." It- You can't, right? To be human is to suffer. So limiting code, subconscious 1.0 construct. Fear is the predominant emotion. Suffering is the overarching experience, which then leads to dis-ease, the absence of ease. That's how it cascades into the physiology. So it's unavoidable, and sickness, and again, I talked about cancer, which I know is a, a sort of sensitive subject for people, but that's the way I look at it. But whatever anybody creates, not consciously, so there's no guilt or shame, 'cause a lot of people go into this-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- PCPeter Crone
... woe is me, and they start berating themselves. "Oh, it's my own fault 'cause of the way..."
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- PCPeter Crone
It's not-
- LHLewis Howes
That doesn't help you create more ease.
- PCPeter Crone
It doesn't. And you can't, again, can't be held accountable for that which you're oblivious to. There's a distinction between fault and responsibility. Fault is all about shame and guilt. It's up to you. It's incumbent upon you. Responsibility is, in ways that I don't even comprehend, I'm nonetheless curating the events of my life and everything that's happened. That's power. I, I might not know why this thing-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- PCPeter Crone
... but if I can take responsibility ... I was once t- T-boned by a car that went through a red light and I was on a Vespa. Don't have to be a rocket scientist to know who won that fight, right?
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- PCPeter Crone
I was spread across PCH. Fortunately, I was okay. I was wearing a leather jatic- jacket, which was an anomaly. I was in, um, I was going to the premiere of the documentary Heal that I was in many, many moons ago. So thankfully, I was wearing a, a leather jacket. I still had tons of road rash.
- LHLewis Howes
[clears throat]
- PCPeter Crone
Clearly, on the human level, the guy, sweet guy, he's like, we exchanged details, insurance, his insurance, paid for a new bike, and [clears throat] it's so funny, I love this about myself, like the insurance company kept sending me emails and letters, uh, "We need to get your medical bills." And I'd already submitted them. It was like 2,500 bucks for my Chinese medicine acupuncture day. And the, you know, 'cause people play the game and like they were expecting 200 grand-
- LHLewis Howes
I would be
- PCPeter Crone
... and MRIs, and I'm like, "No, I'm good. I, you know, I take care of myself." And they're like, "No, no, there's gotta be something wrong." But I took responsibility for the fact that my soul, for whatever reasons, was in that moment, and therefore there's something from that experience that I'm looking to learn from.
- LHLewis Howes
Mm.
- PCPeter Crone
That I'm not a victim of what happened. Yes, on the human level, he takes responsibility and liability. He went through the red light. Fortunately, wasn't going so fast. I might not even be here to have the conversation. But I still, at the deepest level, own the fact that I'm in that moment of life. That's power. That's true responsibility. Otherwise, as I tell people, it's an on/off switch. You're either a victim or you're responsible. Choosing 100% responsibility is not easy, but it's powerful. So then to come back to this sort of understanding of like we're doing the best we can with the limits of our current awareness, right? But then we wanna see who could I be in the absence of those concerns, and that's where we bring these unconscious ... So the beliefs that we have are an extension of the identity that we are. And so the events that we curate are nonetheless for our, our own emancipation fundamentally. They're here to help us break free from these constraints.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- PCPeter Crone
So that's the manifestation, the self-fulfilling prophecy, and, um, yeah, it's not for the light of heart, but it's, it's powerful.
- LHLewis Howes
[laughs] Do you think a lot of suffering, uh, physical suffering comes from mental dis-ease?
- PCPeter Crone
Um, I would say the majority, like the question about disease-
- LHLewis Howes
Besides being like hit by a car or something like that, but I mean the-
- 1:46:42 – 1:57:42
The Hidden Cost of Success
- LHLewis Howes
What is the number one thing that has allowed all of them to reach it? And-
- PCPeter Crone
Mm
- LHLewis Howes
... of all these top billionaires, CEOs, and famous individuals, what is the thing that most of them are suffering with the most?
- PCPeter Crone
Wow, two sides of the same coin, right? Meaning so I would say it seems antithetical, but one of the things that has created their success is fear. You know, there's a great line in Batman, uh, something Rising or Batman Rises-
- LHLewis Howes
Oh
- PCPeter Crone
... whatever it is. And I f- I forget, but they're in this like big hell hole, right? Like they're all thrown into like a deep, deep well-
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah, yeah
- PCPeter Crone
... as these men, right? And, and Batman, uh, I've forgotten the characters, Christopher Lee, is that the actor or whoever it was? Whatever.
- LHLewis Howes
Not Christopher Nolan, that's the director.
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah, yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
But Chris- Christopher...
- PCPeter Crone
Is it Christopher something? Anyway, God.
- LHLewis Howes
Was-
- PCPeter Crone
Good-looking dude. He's the star.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah, yeah.
- PCPeter Crone
And he's trying to-
- LHLewis Howes
British guy, but I'm like-
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... Christopher-
- PCPeter Crone
Makes sense
- LHLewis Howes
... something. But it's all right. [laughs]
- PCPeter Crone
[laughs] So he's trying to get out, right?
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah, he's got the rope.
- PCPeter Crone
But he's got the rope around.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah, yeah.
- PCPeter Crone
And so then he speaks to the guy, the sage who represents, you know, that wise old man who's like, you know, "Do it like the kid did it." And he's like, "That, how's that?" Without the rope.
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah.
- PCPeter Crone
And so fear, whilst it can be our greatest m- sort of, um, self-destruction and our compromise and our unbecoming, is nonetheless for athletes with talent can be the motivating force for often, as sad as it is to say, to disprove those who we felt didn't have our-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- PCPeter Crone
... loyalty or didn't have our backs. You know, the dad that or the high school teacher that mocked the child, I'm gonna prove them wrong, right? So, so often I've worked with, again, like in the world of material success, billionaires who nonetheless have sicknesses, disease, third marriages, kids with addiction, and a lot of anxiety or medications that they're on, drugs that they're taking, but have amassed external success, but in the absence of internal security. And so that was the way that the hungry ghost, the addiction where you can never get enough of something that almost works, in this case material success, has nonetheless never fulfilled on the hole that can never be filled. And so that also, as I said, two sides of the same coin, so that is the motivating factor for a lot of accomplishment, but then can leave to the lack of fulfillment because it's never actually something that can be overcome. So I've seen that, and what's so beautiful is that when I get to work with people who have an immense amount of skill or immense amount of success or immense amount of talent or whatever it is, that then when they tap into this living from love, living from expansion, whoo.
- 1:57:42 – 2:00:59
Three Truths for a Fulfilling Life
- PCPeter Crone
Uh-oh.
- LHLewis Howes
Hypothetical scenario.
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah.
- LHLewis Howes
You get to live as long as you wanna live-
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
... in this earth. You get to create, uh, and be, do, have everything you wanna create
- PCPeter Crone
Mm
- LHLewis Howes
... but it's the last day, many years away
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
And for whatever reason, you've gotta take all of your content with you
- PCPeter Crone
Okay
- LHLewis Howes
So we don't have access to this conversation, all the books that you end up writing, all the content you have on your social media, it's gone
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
Hypothetical. But on the final day, you get to leave behind three main lessons that you would wanna leave behind
- PCPeter Crone
Wow
- LHLewis Howes
I call it three truths
- PCPeter Crone
Wow
- LHLewis Howes
And that's all we would have to remember you by with your content
- PCPeter Crone
Yeah
- LHLewis Howes
What would those three truths be for you?
- PCPeter Crone
Oof, that's a great question I never, I never even heard. Number one, I love you
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm
- PCPeter Crone
I w- I really want people to know that, like
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm
- PCPeter Crone
And not in any way to dismiss who somebody is, but my nature, and I would assert our nature as beings-
- LHLewis Howes
Mm
- PCPeter Crone
... is to love
- LHLewis Howes
Yeah
- PCPeter Crone
And I would, in the most poetic say, you know, way that I say, it's like we all love, well, I, the, again, I'm paraphrasing myself and I forgot, everybody loves everybody, it's just most people don't know that yet
- LHLewis Howes
Mm-hmm
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